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21760480 No.21760480 [Reply] [Original]

Youtube's phone app is bugged and shows hidden view counts on all videos of all channels. Not just hololive and not just member videos. You don't have to be membered or even subscribed to see the view counts.
If you have a video in a playlist, any playlist and have a video open, looking in your now playing list will show all view counts of videos in that playlist, even ones that should be hidden.
I have screenshot a few channels that had easy playlists to look into Member numbers. View Counts are of course not the same as member numbers, but far more reliable than Likes.
It's interesting. Look up what girls you're membered to by putting all videos into a playlist.

>> No.21760553
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21760553

Ina's

>> No.21760600
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21760600

ASMRs clearly get a lot of repeat views

>> No.21760644
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21760644

what

>> No.21760672

>>21760553
wtf. Ina's member only streams are kino.

>> No.21760697
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21760697

Mori's
this doesn't contain the tier 2&3 and some of these became public for a period of time, which is why some have huge view numbers.

>> No.21760737
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21760737

Irys

>> No.21760776

Since you're numberfags let me know. Is 15k-20k views for membership streams good? Because two people I'm membered to have this

>> No.21760788
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21760788

Kronii's

>> No.21760833
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21760833

Bae

>> No.21760892
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21760892

Fauna's

>> No.21760987
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21760987

Mumei's.

Any of you with a phone youtube app can recreate these. It will even show live views right now. You can see Irys's live numbers on her screenshot at the bottom.
Just make a playlist.

>> No.21761091
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21761091

Aqua's

Any hololive I miss just do yourself. This took long enough collecting all these into playlists. Most don't have one to make this simple.

>> No.21761123

This has been a thing for a long time now how fucking new are you? even normalfags knows about this

>> No.21761150
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Botan's

>> No.21761177

>can check the members numbers for any Vtuber
>doesn't check Gura's
Why are you a faggot?

>> No.21761227
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21761227

Haachama's ASMRs
Some of these are huge in count

>> No.21761275

>>21760776
Depends how new those streams are and what the content is. What's the context for it? If it's one day old that's absolutely insane. If it's a year-old karaoke it's still good but probably been rewatched by the same people more than once.

>> No.21761306

>>21761177
build a playlist of all of them, doing this took a long time.

>> No.21761309

Gura has at least 21k members

>> No.21761321

>>21761227
Surely these were membered later right

>> No.21761328
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21761328

Coco

>> No.21761358

>>21761309
Any proof for that?

>> No.21761369

>>21761227
>>21761321
Chama's ASMR streams are sometimes public, but the archive is member only.

>> No.21761373

>>21761227
156k views membership stream jesas.

>> No.21761380

>>21760833
yikes
those are the worst numbers yet

>> No.21761412
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21761412

Iroha

>> No.21761419

This is literally useless and we already knew about it.

>> No.21761420

>>21761321
Yeah all those 100k+ ones are just public streams that got shelved later.

>> No.21761469

>>21761412
sugoi

>> No.21761479

>>21761358
her holofest watchalong has 21k views. That was two weeks ago

>> No.21761488

>>21761412
54k ringfit.....a lot of potential children we wasted on this.

>> No.21761501

>>21761321
Yes but there is one member only which has 150k views. The Non member archives have 200-400k views in total

>> No.21761513
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21761513

La+

>> No.21761532

>>21761488
If only Abe let us in...

>> No.21761573

>>21761479
People can watch things more than once, you need something like a recent members only poll or post where people can't double dip.

>> No.21761581

>>21761479
any rewatch also counts as a view. Look at Irys's live numbers on her screencap. Would need a live gura stream.

>> No.21761596
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21761596

Lamy

>> No.21761637
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21761637

Lui

>> No.21761698
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21761698

Luna's

>> No.21761758
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21761758

Mio's

>> No.21761783
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21761783

Moona

>> No.21761802

>>21761698
Luna has member streams over 50k views. How?

>> No.21761811

>>21761573
>>21761581
oh I see. Her last stream from some hours has 6800 views. what % of her members is that I have no idea. My guess is 12-15k at best

>> No.21761813

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMOoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g

>> No.21761822

>>21761802
rewatches count

>> No.21761841

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMOoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g

^^
これをください

>> No.21761900

>>21761513
Damn lacunny has so many members.

>> No.21761902
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21761902

Nene my wife

>> No.21761946
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21761946

Polka

>> No.21761962

You're leaving a lot of shit that aren't even member streams on most of your screenshots.

>> No.21762010

>>21761962
shut up retard

>> No.21762043
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21762043

>>21761123
This. It's unbelievable how shit people have known about for over a year is some sort of revolutionary discovery. I fucking HATE NEWFAGS GOD DAMN.

>> No.21762053
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21762053

Towa
>>21761962
I just took playlists their channels had to do this. You can do this yourself for anything you want to, even live vidoes. Just have it in a playlist in the phone app and look at that video in the now playing tab list.

>> No.21762056

>>21761841
Ohhh. That might be about 20k memberships for her. Give or take

>> No.21762079

>>21762043
nobody's taken the effort to catalog it

>> No.21762100
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21762100

Anya. Smaller numbers of course.

>> No.21762106

>>21761513
I think you would be one of the top 10 richest people on earth with 780k members

>> No.21762170

post some nijichads

>> No.21762179
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>>21761596
follow up on lamy since she has a free talk? members only section I think

10k views on her latest member stream is really impressive to me, though to be fair her chat is like I swear 80% members even in elden streams of 20k+ viewers

>> No.21762182

>>21762100
I salute those 400 and something Chads

>> No.21762183

>>21762106
Not all of the streams are members. The guy doing this is a fucking lazu retard who wants to "catalog" but can't even bother splicing together a list of only membership video viewcounts.

>> No.21762198
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21762198

Now a few holostars for reference.
Some of these have pitifuly small views. And that's with the videos being old and getting some rewatches. Some under 300 views.

>> No.21762232

>people will use this to shitpost
this place is hell

>> No.21762249

>>21762198
WAKE ME UP

>> No.21762251

>>21761177
you can just do it yourself you lazy faggot

>> No.21762269
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21762269

Oga of holostars. Compare these to the girls.

>> No.21762327

>>21762183
These are the publicly available playlists on their own channel. It's a pain scrolling through a members tab of youtube adding every video to a new playlist. Youtube is a buggy piece of shit.

>> No.21762374

>>21762327
This.

>> No.21762418

I guess what we can take from this is that the Japanese buy memberships much more tban Westerners and that Gura definitely doesn't have 50k+ members like a lot of people used to claim.

>> No.21762457

Someone post Gura. This isn't working on my youtube phone app.

>> No.21762542

>>21762457
no, we shouldn't provide ammo for nipplekek to shit on us

>> No.21762548

Can someone post astel's?
Poor arupapa it's only his 300 or so regulars.

>> No.21762552

>>21761573
just check the likes on her most recent mengen video or ask a chumshit politely to check it for you

>> No.21762560
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21762560

Here's Gura's
Post other playlists and I'll do them.

>> No.21762573

>>21762548
give me a playlist and I'll do it

>> No.21762635

Post Sana

>> No.21762645

>>21762560
Given it's just view numbers, it's both inflated due to rewatches and deflated by members not watching a video ever.

>> No.21762694

>>21762198
Interesting to see the Tier 3 only stream near the bottom hit 186 views. Comparing to the streams open to all tiers, it seems like a good number of his members are Tier 3.

>> No.21762722

>>21762560
mogged by lapu lmao

>> No.21762744

>>21762645
I don't think people rewatches zatsudan that much, so those are probably the closest to the actual number

>> No.21762772

>>21762560
This can't be happening. Mass report this post

>> No.21762773
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21762773

>>21762560
Pathetic Same-chan.

>> No.21762778

>>21762418
Gura probably has around 20k, which is what the sane people were claiming anyway.

>> No.21762849

>>21762560
chumpedos...
our lies are being exposed...

>> No.21762870

>>21762560
Rumao

>> No.21762901

You don't need to manually build a playlist for their members video; YouTube automatically creates one for every channel. You can access the playlist URL at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMO<channel ID after removing UC at the beginning>.
Example: Gura's channel ID is UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g, so her members playlist URL would be https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMOoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g..

>> No.21762905

>>21761802
Those are public streams/unlisted public streams anon. Only the first one is member stream

>> No.21762932

>Chumcucks shitposted for years about Gura's numbers being bigger than Pekora's
Get you just desserts, dumbasses.

>> No.21762940

>>21762635
>Sana has more members than Gura
This can't be happening

>> No.21762983

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.21762997

>>21762905
What about Laplus?

>> No.21763005

>>21762901
then do that for any other channel not posted

>> No.21763055

Can someone post Pekora's?

>> No.21763065

>okayu GFE ASMR has 77k views
ALL ME

>> No.21763069

>>21762932
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMO1DCedRgGHBdm81E1llLhOQ

>> No.21763083

>>21761380
to be fair she doesn't do as many member's streams and half of them are at god awful hours (like 9 AM EST on a weekday)

>> No.21763107

I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF
I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF
I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF
I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF
I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF
I WILL NOT KILL MYSELF

>> No.21763148
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21763148

>>21763107
KILL YOURSELF

>> No.21763170

>>21762560
Gura watched anime?! That's the biggest shock of this list.

>> No.21763178

>>21763069
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I KNEEL, QUEEN OF VTUBERS

>> No.21763191

>>21760480
ogey

>> No.21763229

>>21762560
She gets 3x the views the other ENs are getting, don't know why people are doomposting.

>> No.21763238

>>21763069
AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW REEE REE REEEEEE

>> No.21763327

>>21763065
T. Subaru

>> No.21763333

>>21763229
that most of her viewers are greys I guess

>> No.21763345

>>21763069
Someone post it. At least the first page please.

>> No.21763356

>>21762573

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMONVEsYbiZjH5QLmGeSgTSzg

>> No.21763384

>>21763069
>51k on that one video after the drama

>> No.21763397

>>21763333
Whats new.

>> No.21763409

>>21762418
>the Japanese buy memberships much more tban Westerners
People used to claim the opposite. That westerners were more likely to buy membership because of twitch culture.

>> No.21763445
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21763445

Pekora

>> No.21763455

>>21761123
If numberfags were intelligent they wouldn't numberfag

>> No.21763460

>>21762560
Kek.
30k members my ass

>> No.21763461

>>21762418
>50k+ members
ogey

>> No.21763502

>>21761328
o7

>> No.21763512

>>21763445
>51k
More than double of what Gura has, get fucked chumcucks.

>> No.21763521

>>21761275
Months old membership stream but they're all pretty consistently above 10k.

>> No.21763538

>>21761811
based on chat log analysis i normally estimate a range of 12.5k to 25k members for her. i haven't done one in a while though.

>> No.21763557

>>21763445
OHNONONO CHUMKEKS

>> No.21763563

Do Marine

>> No.21763572

>>21763460
Haven't you heard of member sharing? It's possible members are sharing accounts when viewing member only streams, but still pay for their individuals memberships
So gura's actual count is probably much higher

>> No.21763577

>>21763512
it's just view counts, would need to do this to a live video. Look at some of the ASMRs in the thread, even ones never public. They get rewatched a bunch

>> No.21763586

>barely streams
>shit SC numbers
>shit membership numbers
>only big at dead subs
>zero signs of improvement
>1 original song in 1 and a half year
Gura is quite pathetic if you actually pay attention

>> No.21763598

>>21763512
>Gura 102k
more like half of what gura has

>> No.21763606

>>21763572
The absolute cope.

>> No.21763619
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21763619

>>21763356
Astel. In line with the other males.

>> No.21763622

>>21763572
Oh my fucking god...

>> No.21763623

>>21763512
Everyone subbed during that time to find out what made her cry and end the stream so abruptly.

>> No.21763628

So if Ina has 15k members, that means she's earning $900,000 a year on memberships alone.

>> No.21763641

>>21762560
>100k+ views members-only ASMR stream
geez..

>> No.21763667

we lost ENbros...

>> No.21763673

>>21763641
rewatches

>> No.21763707

I feel like i'm getting trolled here because I cant see those numbers anywhere, even android emulators dont work

>> No.21763713

>>21762560
omegaruru

>> No.21763734

>>21763445
>>21762560
why is everyone doomposting gura's numbers when her last member is 7k and pekora's last member is 8.7k? It's not a big difference.

>> No.21763742

>>21762560
That one ASMR must be some serious uoh bait to get that many replays

>> No.21763762

>>21763734
i don't understand either, it's pretty much inline with the 20k members that everyone always said

>> No.21763765

>>21763619
Thank you anon. He gets better views despite his membership being more expensive.

>> No.21763772

>>21763742
Nit really.

>> No.21763782

>>21763445
Much lower than expected. How embarrassing.

>> No.21763799

>>21763734
because it's funny

>> No.21763805

>>21763673
youtube tracks unique watchers if they didnt you could samefag billions of views with bots

>> No.21763809

>>21763742
she sounded actually horny at some point, powerful stuff.

>> No.21763819

>>21763734
Also its 2 hours vs 7 days so gura probably has more members anyways

>> No.21763828

>>21763782
I really didn't expect it but damnn it was lower than expected as expect from rank 12 of superchats

>> No.21763833

>>21763734
Because chumbuds talked shit and bragged about 30k members. And now they are exposed.

>> No.21763834

>>21763734
>>21763762
He is the Guraschizo who got bullied out from /#/

>> No.21763845

Can anyone check some NijiENs, like Selen and Elira? Like Elira has some membership watchalongs, and those usually does shit, but are like 9+ hours. Interested in how those compared to her usual shorter ones.
And Selen is the biggest NijiEN girl so wonder how she stacks up

>> No.21763849

>>21763673
of course those are rewatches dumbass I'm not saying those are unique views. I'm saying she should do more of that kind of streams that have high replay value. imagine the viewcount if it wasn't members-only.

>> No.21763865

post FBK's valentine's ASMR
I have fapped to that for quite some time

>> No.21763869

>every single hololive girl makes over $500k a year on memberships alone
>this doesn't even include vod views, which pay $4 per 1000 viewers. Thus totaling to a sum of millions per year.
>they earn something like $250k a year through superchats, but this is very minor in comparison to these other income sources

So all of the hololive girls are multi-millionaires. Now maybe you understand why they never stream. They're too wealthy to stream.

>> No.21763872

>>21763805
no it doesn't. Go watch some 10 view video 10 times yourself.

>> No.21763874

>>21763833
wasn't 50k?

>> No.21763895

>>21763762
It's a shitposter baiting for you. Gura, Pekora and Marine have 20k+ memberships. Idk about the rest. Maybe Suisei, Subaru and Laplus.

>> No.21763928

>>21763869
taxes exist anon
also youtube money takes time to arrive.

>> No.21763941

>>21763874
it was 100k retard, stop defending chumfucks

>> No.21763943

>>21763586
Why did you omit VODs, retard?

>> No.21763952

>>21763895
if Suisei said she was gonna do ASMR, the memberships are gonna skyrocket

>> No.21763968

>>21763874
I usually heard the 30k from them, have not seem the 50k brag.

>> No.21763987

>>21763928
Oh yeah ok bro. They totally aren't millionares because of "taxes". Oh and I'm so sorry they have to wait a few months for their paycheck. Boo hoo.

You retarded faggots have pumped up these girls to such a ridiculous extreme. Meanwhile most vtubers are struggling to get by. There's some talented people out there and you just keep pumping up these 5 people.

>> No.21764007

>>21762560
>ME ME ME
Why is Gura like this?

>> No.21764014

>>21763572
embarrassing cope

>> No.21764020

Anyone got Marine's and Noel's?

>> No.21764021

>>21763869
They don't make the money, Cover makes the money. The girls just get a portion of it.

>> No.21764034

>>21763874
They were trying to say she earned more money from memberships than from superchats which is correct. Cope.

>> No.21764054

>>21763968
you are probably thinking of the chart that recorded all unique member chatters over multiple months

>> No.21764072

>>21763968
There were some retards that thought you needed to be a member to join the Guracord and used that counter to estimate Gura's memberships. That's where the 50k came from.

>> No.21764088

>>21763872
from what i saw posted you can give 5 new views to a video per day. a view is counted when you watch about 30 seconds of a video

>> No.21764110
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21764110

>>21763572
this cope
the absolute state of chumkeks

>> No.21764124

>>21762179
Yeah, those are all under the members only chat stream section. Looks like she has had some member growth in the recent months, not bad.

>> No.21764162
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21764162

>>21763968
You are talking about this one

>> No.21764176

people need to rememeber these are their floors not a good estimate of the total as not eveyrone will be watching each emmeebr streams.
And the asmr are inflated.

They probably have a bit more than the views show.

>> No.21764185

>>21764021
Ok so Ina makes close to $1 million a year on memberships alone.
30% goes to cover. Maybe 40% goes to taxes (they are in the highest income bracket after all)
That's still $420,000 per year.

That's just superchats. Not including
>vod views
>superchats
>merchandise sales
>conventions
which can all pay many multiples of this sum.

They are all millionaires. You are trying to create the false, incorrect impression that they aren't millionaires. But anyone with basic math can tell you otherwise.

>> No.21764199

>>21761380
the pain of streaming for EN while basically being on the opposite side of the world

>> No.21764215

>>21763572
this has to be a falseflagger KEK

>> No.21764218

>>21763833
Falseflaggers

>> No.21764277

>>21761596
>225k
I'm assuming this wasn't always members only?

>> No.21764305

>>21764185
You forgot the 30% YouTube cut.

>> No.21764342

>>21764072
>Numberfag being retarded
As they should be

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21764370

>>21763845
Here's Selen

>> No.21764375

>>21764185
YouTube gets a cut too, Anon.

>> No.21764377

>>21764020
give me a playlist

>> No.21764417

>>21764185
30% YT, 35% to cover in general, not sure how to count the taxes. In the end leaves around 20% for the talents?

>> No.21764425

>>21764162
The issues with this have already been gone over to the point of timeloops in /#/ (taken over a long period of time, doesn't account for people who stop membership or don't chat at all).
Point being, not everyone will engaged with member's streams or even chat at all despite having memberships.
The only ones who have the real numbers are the Holomem themselves, and unless they straight up say "I have X members", we will never know the true number they have. This only serves as a (very inaccurate) ballpark to throw around.

>> No.21764436

>>21764088
correct. But under 300 views you can do basically anything.

>> No.21764452

>>21764185
Where the fuck are you getting that number for memberships? Memberships at the lowest tier are 5$

>> No.21764453

>>21764185
Ina is a professional artist, she makes that money with one comission from a big chink gacha company. Hololive is just a hobby for her.

>> No.21764455

>>21764162
This looks inline with the views, I guess. Since not everyone watches member contents.

>> No.21764478

As chumkek I assume Gura has around 10k members judging from the member streams likes and poll

>> No.21764504

>>21764277
probably right, but I have no way to confirm

>> No.21764514

>>21764452
Yeah and she has 15,000 members.

15,000*5 = $75,000 a month = $900,000 a year

>> No.21764523

>>21764425
pretty much this
we can get an idea of a minimum but not really grasp the full aspect. it will alwasy be a hidden number for us.

>> No.21764536

>>21764007
She's the "yeah me" posters.

>> No.21764544

remember some niggas pay for higher tiers

>> No.21764594

>>21764453
You retarded faggots have been pumping up this one singular company so much that it's become completely absurd. It's to the point that nobody needs to stream because they're all so wealthy. And even when they're not streaming, you're so incredibly tribalistic that you refuse to even look at someone from another company. I think it's disgusting. There's so many talented people out there that you just outright refuse to look at, and you continue to pump these people up to such a ludicrous extreme.

>> No.21764607

>>21764453
Yes as everyone knows the most lucrative job in the otaku industry is being a twitter artists that sometimes makes 3 jpegs for obscure gatcha games and is certainly not being a hololive streamer.

>> No.21764611

>>21764514
Now get 20% of that

>> No.21764620

>>21764370
The male collab has reduced her members, huh?

>> No.21764635

>>21764514
she doesn't have 15k members. She has some member videos with 15k views. Way different. I'd bet she has around 2k members

>> No.21764639

How many does Mysta/Vox have..

>> No.21764658

>>21764162
Mori gets mogged by Ina and Ame? Weird considering the 2 million subs

>> No.21764659

>>21764635
What kind of ass backward logic are you using

>> No.21764674

>>21764594
oh i just saw your schizo babbling in /#/, fancied a change?

>> No.21764698

>>21763987
Seething 2view

>> No.21764719

>>21764639
dont they have like only 1 memebr vid only?
probably gonna be inflated ebcasue of that.

>> No.21764721

>>21764453
lol deluded.

>> No.21764729

this thread is hilarious

>> No.21764761

>>21764659
where on ina's list are you getting 15k members? You really think some skipped member videos completely? That nobody ever rewatched some? The view counts are inflated by rewatches. If she had 15k members the view counts would be far higher. Gura probably doesnt have 15k members.

>> No.21764788

>>21764370
Post all nijiEN. Thanks

>> No.21764795

>>21764607
Jesus Christ, you're retarded.

>> No.21764813

>>21763869
>>this doesn't even include vod views, which pay $4 per 1000 viewers.
No way. It's a dollar per 1000 views, at most.

>> No.21764844

coomer bait chuubas like noel have more memberships

>> No.21764854
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Do you need an outdated version of the app or something? I don't see this at all.

>> No.21764859

>>21764659
ina's screenshot was during a live memberstream with 1.6k viewers. You really think 10 times that are membered and didn't watch?

>> No.21764862
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>>21764639
Vox

>> No.21764889

>>21764854
Click the play button

>> No.21764891

>>21764854
open one stream then open the playlist

>> No.21764894

>>21764854
it's not that part, open a video, even unmembered and then pull up your now watching list from the bottom

>> No.21764916

>>21764859
Don't most of them have 10x the vod views of people who watch live? That isn't surprising at all.

>> No.21764927

>>21764795
w-wow thanks for this 5k cheque for my 40 hours of work chinksoft!
*makes $20k in donations from one stream*

>> No.21764956

>>21764859
Exactly.

>> No.21764980

>>21764594
Pareto's Principe nigga. The big boys have and will always command a big presence. In everything, ever. What could possibly be a "solution" to this? You gonna have revolutionaries forcibly distribute supas to all the proletariat 2views comrade?

>> No.21764994

>>21764894
>>21764891
>>21764889
Oh shit, it works. I honestly couldn't care less about the holos numbers, I'm more interested in the indies I'm membered to. Thanks anons.

>> No.21764999

>>21764927
No more than $500 per account anon...

>> No.21765004

>>21764916
no shithead. This is members so it's different. It's going to be far closer to number of views. People don't pay for membership and then never even watch the vod

>> No.21765024

>>21764761
i would say it's very likely that members don't watch every video, rewatches ofc add to the total and there is no way gura has only 15k members since her guerilla member stream from 2hours ago has got 7.6k views already

>> No.21765035

Didn't secure SCer in first few months by SC reading
Didn't do more "candy eating" ASMR for member baits
That's why Gura fails

>> No.21765036

Please someone post Marine's.

>> No.21765037

>>21764927
KEK

>> No.21765048

>>21764980
They should teach that law in school...

>> No.21765051

>>21764994
works for any channel, any hidden view count.

>> No.21765108

>>21765024
it's probably going to be exactly about 15k members

>> No.21765122

>>21765004
I do. Having multiple memberships and only watching one because limited time

>> No.21765128

>>21764980
But this isn't Paretto Principle.

This is like a mountain, a sheer cliff, and then everyone else below. That's not Paretto principle.
>What could possibly be a "solution" to this?
Stop pumping up this one company so much. It's become completely absurd at this point. You know that HoloMyth inspired a huge wave of vtuber debuts following in their footsteps. And by now, most of those people are graduating, or have graduated. There was a massive wave of graduations of these people last year, because literally nobody is clicking on their channels.

So now we have all of these smaller vtubers, who are all graduating. And we have a few vtubers at the top, who never stream because they're so wealthy. So this is bad for the consumer in every way possible. It's because of tribalism.

>> No.21765139

>>21765024
it's a far higher concentration that at least click on it. It's not going to be 10 times live views

>> No.21765167
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21765167

Pomu

>> No.21765174

>>21765128
I don't care if I trample over insects even if they're talented insects
Stop crying

>> No.21765187

>>21765122
and then you watch a vod. These screencaps have vod views. It's not 10 times live numbers

>> No.21765204

>>21765167
Marine pls

>> No.21765222

Why no one posting the NijiEN girls??? Fuck the fags, I just want the girls

>> No.21765260

>>21765108
you think that 50% of her members found out about and watched her guerilla membership stream within hours, not even annouced on twitter

>> No.21765263

>>21765174
But why do they have to be insects? You are the reason for that. It's your tribalism.
So now you are spending your time worshiping this very small collection of vtubers who rarely stream, and just shoveling money at them specifically. I think it's really retarded.

>> No.21765272

I like this guy >>21765035

>> No.21765285

>>21765222
Post a playlist with all the members only stuff.

>> No.21765328

>>21764377
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMOCzUftO8KOVkV4wQG1vkUvg

>> No.21765335

>>21761328
I miss her every day bros.
Reddit dragon stole my heart and never gave it back.

>> No.21765351

>>21764185
You forgot the cuts and you aren't counting the sponsored streams
Regardless, Ina found this amount on her rooms ground when she was cleaning it so doesn't matter
All the Holo girls are technically rich and do it for fun.

>> No.21765356

>can see semi-private view counts
>can's see dislikes
youtube pajeet status?

>> No.21765377

>>21765260
close to that. I also think even in a few hours rewatches or people switching devices/IPs inflate the number a bit.

>> No.21765411

>>21764370
>>21765167
Considering this, VOD views, merch, and SCs, the NijiEN girls probably earn 10% of what Myth is earning

>> No.21765413

>>21765356
1squatting

>> No.21765418

>>21765356
dislikes are easy as fuck, get an extension for it

>> No.21765419

>>21764980
>You gonna have revolutionaries forcibly distribute supas to all the proletariat 2views comrade?
This. We must drag these big chuubas from their big streams into the streets of twitter and serve them justice. SCs, subs and views shall be equally divided among all chuubas, regardless of talent or content. Of course, comrade 2view#37858 shall get a bit more because she's more equal the the others.

>> No.21765429
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>>21765263
I don't care enough to dig through the tens of thousands of garbage western indies just to find that one supposed talented 2 view that I'm supposed to like because of your proclaimed talent
>this very small collection of vtubers who rarely stream
I watch JP
>inb4 you're watching people you don't even understand
I've been doing my reps and I could understand most of it
Is it even tribalism when I watch Holos Nijis VSPO and whatnot all the same?
Anyways blue woman

>> No.21765451

>>21765356
DO NOT REDEEM

>> No.21765456

>>21765167
It is interesting that normally gaming streams are buffs and zatsudans are debuffs (with many exceptions), but in the membership streams all the most viewed are zatsudans

>> No.21765475

>>21765419
Kek.

>> No.21765486
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>>21765222
Elira
I also posted Pomu and Selen above

>> No.21765495

You people are stupid. You literally think a bunch of people rewatch streams, this is just dumb. One stream is already very time consuming, why the fuck would someone rewatch an entire stream? At most they just rewatch specific parts.

>> No.21765542

>>21765263
ogey 2view commie

>> No.21765573

>>21765495
I rewatch karaokes all the time...

>> No.21765577

>>21765495
You only have to watch 30 seconds of a video to count as a view on Youtube, anon, not the whole stream.

>> No.21765634

>>21765486
Thanks! Last one, Nina please. Don't bother the others, the 3 you posted + Nina is enough

>> No.21765649

>>21765495
switching devices or your phone closing the app to switch to another app and then opening the stream later each count as a view

>> No.21765648

>>21765377
that is very unlikely, especially considering only 30% of her audience is NA

>> No.21765696

they should leak their wage next time

>> No.21765695

>>21765648
and then they catch a vod. Also rewatches or device switching or closing and reopening a stream or vod will inflate numbers too.

>> No.21765698

>>21764813
Only if you get the shit ads. There's an algorithm that does calculations on engagement to dole out the better commercials for the more popular videos. It's why there are sites that give a range of how much possible money they could earn since only the uploader would know that. It's why you get so many videos of differening values of "how much I earned from 1 milion views" and such.

>> No.21765750

>>21765411
The membership vod difference doesnt seem to be 10x unless you compared with Gura.
>Ina 4-8k
>Selen 2-3k
And then the difference is much smaller than 10x in superchats, many months some of the NijiEN girls make more than some of the HoloEN girls, and that is without counting streamlabs NijiEN gets.
BUT the part where HoloEN probably DOES earn 10x or maybe more than NijiEN is probably merch and promo streams.
But if you only go memberships and SC I dont think it is a ten times difference

>> No.21765793

>>21765495
Anon, I've rewatched streams multiple times. Not all in one sitting of course. Just in multiple chunks if it's more than 2 hours and if it's been a while since I last watched it. You tell me you don't rewatch a favorite episode of a tv show or movie?

>> No.21765798
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Finana

>> No.21765812
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>>21765328
Marine's

>> No.21765835

>>21764862
ot a lot of reason to member i guess

>> No.21765845

>>21765812
PEKORA MOGGED
GURA MOGGED
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.21765899

>>21765167
>>21765486
Pomu...
elira...
lazu...

>> No.21765951

damn Gura is such a let down holy shit. I guess that's what you get for being a lazy, unambitious autist

>> No.21765954

/#/ said this >>21765128 is a 2view schizo and they are grateful we are keeping her busy.

>> No.21765980

>>21765812
>Coomerbaiting was the key to getting members all along
I though the coomers were poorfags?

>> No.21765990

chumpedos IN SHAMBLES

>> No.21765997

>>21765798
Ooof... Finana should just go coombait in membersonly, do a cunny juice ASMR and her members will jump 10x

>> No.21766019
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21766019

Please support indies and small company chuubas.

>> No.21766033

>>21765845
Still low. You need glasses

>> No.21766042
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>>21765812
That ASMR from 3 months ago that's not showing a number in your screenshot is 65k btw

>> No.21766045

>>21765899
What do you mean? They both have pretty good members for their viewership

>> No.21766044

next question, which of these chuubas have gifted memberships enabled on their channels

>> No.21766053
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>>21765634
Nina>>21765648

>> No.21766078

>>21765845
How? Gura's membersonly just 3hrs ago beat Pekora and Marine's with days on them

>> No.21766122

>>21765812
We fucking lost Gurabros...

>> No.21766126

>>21766053
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NINA

>>21766045
not compared to selen. they really need to sell their memebrship better.

>> No.21766131

>>21765495
I just lost to Okayu again and I love to rewatch Korone's kino streams.

>> No.21766136

>>21766053
>Nina has the most subs of all the NijiEN girls
>Has the least members
What the fuck?

>> No.21766160

>>21766078
Marine's last membership video wasn't an actual stream, it was just an archive of her Twitter Space from the day before.

>> No.21766165

>>21766122
rewatches

>> No.21766170

I wouldn't be surprised if most of Gura's member join just for her members karaoke, which are all unarchived.

>> No.21766180

>>21765793
>You tell me you don't rewatch a favorite episode of a tv show or movie?
not when they keep chuggin new episodes.

>> No.21766198

>>21766078
There's the Guraschizo pretending to be retard

>> No.21766210

>>21765128
>This is not the Pareto Principle
Except it is breh. The small number of members in the bigger name groups like Holo, Niji, Vshojo, etc. Pull in vast majorities of the money and fame, leaving the small corpos and indie 2views to fight for the scraps. This is the way of the world my nigga. Even breaking it down into the individual groups would likely bear this out. Pego, Gura, Marine, and (formerly) Rushia and Coco likely pulled in far more money and sponsor attention than a majority of the rest of the company.
You aren't gonna change people's innate tribal behavior by telling them to "stop pumping up this company" any more than screaming at the ocean will change the tides. I'd say you gotta realize this, but here we are arguing about the efficacy of influencing fanbases of tens of thousands of international viewers in a thread with like 70 some odd unique IPs.

>> No.21766235

>>21766136
most of the subs come from luxiem tourist

>> No.21766236

So what about the NijiJP men? Top 5?

>> No.21766263

>>21766078
These chumkeks are cute.

>> No.21766267

>>21765812
Give me okayu
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3y-e0n6k6gDDFYTRQLZc1TL8xnJdZi8j

>> No.21766277

>>21766198
Presenting actual numbers based on the screenshots shown here = retard... Ogey haha

>> No.21766289

>>21766126
>not compared to selen. they really need to sell their memebrship better.
Selen's highest in past 1 month: 2k
Pomu's highest in past 1 month: 2k

Selen's highest in past 3 months: 2.6k
Pomu's highest in past 3 months: 2.6k

Seems about even.

>> No.21766290

>>21766126
Anon Selen is way more popular than Pomu/Elira. She regulary gets 5-6k CCV, that never happens with Pomu/Elira
Dont think it has much to do with selling the membership lol

>> No.21766291

Pekora has to be botting ccv if her members numbers are that low.
Curious about miko now.

>> No.21766322

Just set up a top 15 most viewed member's only ASMR chart with erotic pictures.

>> No.21766351

>>21766263
There's literally screenshota here, anon. All you got to do is open your eyes hahaha

>> No.21766367

>>21766291
Members don't watch every member stream. It's much the same as usual content, you watch if interests you. Especially when you're membered to several girls at once. There's no way you can watch every regular stream, much less every mengen.

>> No.21766389

>>21766291
pekora gets a ton of japanese kids

>> No.21766447

>>21766367
dont bother
people here think people witll rewatch a zatsu over and over again.

>> No.21766450

>>21766291
Appealing to people who can't easily have debit/credit cards is a bit of a double edged sword. They can watch but can't simp as readily.

>> No.21766463

>>21765899
More off-collabs with the male.

>> No.21766482

>>21761227
So this is why she never opens SC, she's swimming in members subscription

>> No.21766517

>>21766447
switching from phone to pc, or closing youtube to open up another app and then reopening the stream are all different views added to the count

>> No.21766524

>>21766291
Yes the gap is quite huge between CCV and the members number

>> No.21766536

>>21764594
good, 2views absolutely fuming at the lazy shark bitch putting 100 times less effort and getting 1000 times more success always makes laugh

>> No.21766539

>>21766053
>>21766136
These male collabs are great. Niji females only want more grayniggers. They don't care about getting more members.

>> No.21766556

>>21766290
I think it depends a lot on what she is doing to be honest. If she is playing Apex she can get past 5k sometimes. But if she is just playing a normal game she seems to be about the same 1.5k-3k depending on the game.

>> No.21766561

>>21766482
many of those were once public

>> No.21766625

>>21766517
yeah i bet there are a thousand of people that changed device and reopenned the stream multiple times for 1-2hr zatsu.

>> No.21766661

>>21766524
because most of them aren't membered? also stop replying to yourself

>> No.21766669

Holy shit, I've found the thread that perfectly encapsulates /vt/'s catalogniggers lmao hahahahahahahahahahaha

>> No.21766694

>>21765167
So 1.2k, we got a baseline for Pomu. We'll just need to wait for her latest members stream to see if the 3some drama affected her membership number.

>> No.21766707

>>21764162
Anyone got Watame's?

>> No.21766723

>>21766625
yes. I know I do that exactly thing, stop watching and come back to it later 3 or 4 times. I count as 4 views on each of my oshi's member streams in her screencap in this thread. I am not unique.

>> No.21766759
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>>21766267
Okayu. It missed some.

>> No.21766774

>>21766482
No those ASMR streams were initially public...

>> No.21766808

>>21766759
literal succubus

>> No.21766832

>>21766723
nigga not everyone is you. most pople only go to zatsu 1 time and then go back into their day or jump to another stream.

>> No.21766853

All I'm getting out of any of this is that people who are into ASMR are fucking weird and will watch the same streams over and over again.

>> No.21766869

>>21764862
>one eighth gura's subscribers
>two thirds of her membership count

OH NO NO NO DEAD SUBS SHARK

>> No.21766887

>>21766759
Basically ASMR content does well, as opposed to zatsudan and watch along.
A more accurate estimate would be to extrapolate the number of likes on membership posts, but that would require people to post image of their chuuba's memberpost.

>> No.21766889

>>21766832
and how many views one the zatsu are you seeing that lead you to believe the memberships are that high?

>> No.21766918

>>21766694
No really, there will be other variables at play unless she does the exact same content at the exact same time, and even then you'd need to wait for views to finish processing.

>> No.21766929

>>21763928
if you make a lot of money before taxes you will still have a lot of money after taxes

>> No.21766943

>>21766291
>>21766524
>Not every single person that watches Pekora is paying for her membership
>That must mean she is using bots
Hang yourself

>> No.21766948

All in all, this is great against the chumkeks. Can't use the 30k brag bullshit anymore.
They probably won't ever mention numbers anymore anyway.

>> No.21766956

>>21765187
I'm membered to several holos and I skip watchalongs and some zatsudan

>> No.21766965

>>21766832
you spend 30 seconds on a video it's a view. You do that again later just hovering over the video and it's a view. Youtube like to pump numbers themselves. Makes them look good.

>> No.21766978

Suisei?

>> No.21766989

>>21766889
like 15k for some and 20k
and these are the low end of predicitons since no one watches every member stream.

>> No.21767018

>>21766956
this is visible in the screencaps. It's not a huge bump.

>> No.21767050

>>21766965
this is memebership why would you pay 5 bucks to watch a 30sec of a mengen?

>> No.21767086

>>21767050
because you got distracted. You came back later and then gave it another view.

>> No.21767111

>>21766759
That's a lotta ASMR. Any Onigirya here to tell how lewd they get?

Asking for a friend

>> No.21767140

>>21767111
Lewd.

>> No.21767161
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>>21766759
Scroll up and down and the numbers will show up

>> No.21767176

>>21766126
Elira's membership seems to be permanent debuff content. Watchalongs are always debuff to begin with you can even see on Selen's she only has around 800-900 views on some of those as one offs. So I would say its pretty good she still has 800+ views after 80 episodes considering how many people probably drop out or skip them altogether due to not following along.

>> No.21767218

>>21767086
and how many people will do that?
thousands according to you?
is a stream and mengen so you want to saty there becasue is one of the few times you are closer to the streamer.
jesus you poeple. these are low ball predicitons and yet you people say they are too inflated.Only thr asmr ones are.

>> No.21767252
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21767252

We know for a fact that Gura has AT LEAST 14k members from poll results.
Granted it could've diminished since the poll is quite old, but taking into account the amount of member pandering she does, and the fact that the poll results don't really change between 1 year old polls and 6 month old polls she should have more than that.
Also, notice the difference in engagement between likes and poll votes.

>> No.21767280

>>21766759
No wonder Subaru subbed right away kek

>> No.21767289

>>21767111
>how lewd
Have the lube and onahole ready.

>> No.21767364

>>21766853
One of the only video of Fauna's that I've watched is her lap pillow ASMR and I've used it to fall asleep at least a dozen times now. It's honestly replaced drinking myself into a stupor to KO myself after stressful days, so I consider that at least somewhat healthier.

>> No.21767369

Anyone post Rosemi and Millie's memberships?

>> No.21767373

>>21767050
Having to leave because of IRL stuff
Switching devices

>> No.21767416

>>21765798
yikes

>> No.21767462

>>21767416
Proof GFE beats the SFE (sex friend experience)

>> No.21767478

>>21767369
Did you see Finana's? Rosemi and Millie would be around that. Surprised Nina is around that too. I thought she'll be Selen, Elira, Pomu level

>> No.21767482

>>21767218
The only reliable number is the number of likes. Why would people pay for membership if they are not going to leave a like?

>> No.21767484
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>>21766053
OH NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHA

>> No.21767564

>>21767478
I guess when your main content is leeching off the boys it doesn't gain you many dedicated fans.

>> No.21767578

>>21767252
>Poll cope
RORU RUMAO

>> No.21767589

>>21767482
Even likes are lowballing. Sometimes I don't even bother leaving a like or commenting.

>> No.21767593

>>21767462
But Finana didn't totally coombait. If she just imitates a sloppy pussy for asmr, she'll beat GFE

>> No.21767637

>>21767478
I would guess Rosemi is way closer to the Elira/Pomu level than Nina level

>> No.21767668

ID numbers anyone?

>> No.21767680

>>21767484
>>21767578
>>21760480
So this is really what /vt/sisters do all day, huh. This thread is a fascinating window into the mind of the truly deranged.

>> No.21767692

>>21767482
I've only ever pressed like on anything as a misclick

>> No.21767761
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Suisex

>> No.21767766

>>21767482
But usually they have the waiting room for the member stream open to the public where anyone can leave a like before it starts.

>> No.21767839

>>21767761
gura mogged

>> No.21767909

>>21767761
That's impressive. Though I guess expected as well considering she doesn't read SCs.

>> No.21767918

>>21766136
>Shorts deadsubs
>Female fans of the males that are also deadsubs

>> No.21767963

>>21767593
Sorry I meant to say the SAFWIAUWYGDTIE (slutty acting friend who is actually uptight when you get down to it experience)

>> No.21767985
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>fat cat mogu'd everybody
Sugoi

>> No.21768031

>>21767909
she would break the record if she did member only asmr/singing lmao

>> No.21768046

>>21766126
>sell their memebrship better.
Elira is more or less anti doing anything to sell membership. She said before she opened them that she didn't want to do any kind of content in membership that you couldn't get for free so she didn't exclude people and she still hasn't. Never even did a real karaoke in membership despite that being her biggest buff content.

>> No.21768078

>>21768031
>ASMR
I would kneel to the end of time.

>> No.21768130

>>21767111
If you’re looking for something to make you cum literal buckets it’s well worth the price of entry. Easily the best ASMR shit in Hololive.

>> No.21768265

>>21768046
Same reason she stopped doing unachieved karaoke
Most of those are "watch now or never" bait content and not because of copyright
Now she will have to bite the bullet if she wants to do the english ones they got permission

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>>21768078
https://streamable.com/u3qw6v
An hour and a half of this, she'd truly make everybody kneel.

>> No.21768484

>>21767578
What does that even mean?

>> No.21768653

>>21762560
At least double other Myths

>> No.21768951

>>21768265
I think most people will probably be able to understand the difference between management says we aren't allowed to archive English karaoke so it's unarchived or not at all and just whimsically doing it unarchived because you felt like being a bit spicy.

>> No.21769394

>>21762560
Where are all the blowjob asmr videos cumbuds are always boasting about?

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