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>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

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>>21537815
Anchoring Sakuran's >>21486092 geology post from last thread. Still not 100% sure on it so if/when the geology anons are around il try asking them again

>>21536467
I just wanted to confirm that this is indeed true and canon.

And /meat/ just got pruned
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>>21540788
OOC /morig/ stands with our /meat/ brothers in worldbuilding in their struggle against oppression.
In-character /morig/ is cackling evilly.

>>21540920
Thanks, I guess pain is just part of being /meat/. Given that we kind of established jannies being entities in this world, I guess maybe we can write something about that. I reckon being attacked by supernatural(?) beings semi-regularly can make for a decent plot and probably helps explain the martial tendency of the society.
But hey, at least we have a stream tonight, so that's something to distract us for the moment.

>>21541943
Killing gods would sure become more attractive if their heralds attacked you all the time. That's a bit of perspective other nations are lacking kek.

>>21537815
Anchoring kfp climate analysis from last thread
>>21401246
>>21401316
>>21419127

>>21537815
Haha, time for autism. Feel free to use or scrap whatever from this.

>Text written by a self-styled “Explorer”, name redacted.
>The following text is not for consumption by the general populace, strict level of clearance must be presented for the text to be made available. Leaking the following text is tantamount to leaking military secrets and will thus result in capital punishment.

The history of Respublika Owl, a rising nation on the western edge of the Holocontinent, is shrouded in mystery despite its relatively young age. When it was founded, as well as the state of the land before its foundation could best be described as vague. An interesting thing to note, considering both the pride of its citizenry and a not insignificant interest among the nation’s scholars regarding world history.

While no ages are specified in official records, its safe to say that these lands were not entirely unpopulated when the current populace of the republic arrived at these lands. Early records tell of long wars of attrition with the various tribes of what is commonly known as Schizos, the hilly environment proving defensible not only to the new settlers but also to the native tribesmen. These wars are often portrayed as a generally slow push from the western coast toward the eastern hills until the Schizo tribes were pushed into a corner and ultimately annihilated by a temporary coalition between the Hoomans and their various neighbors, the eastern mountains of the Brrat monks providing the anvil to the rest of the coalitions hammer. A hard fought and slow victory, that is how history portrays it. But what if there is more to these early wars than what official records would have us believe?

In the eastern hills of the Republic, there are tales of strange creatures roaming during the night. Nightmares, the locals call them. Monsters that snatch away disobedient children that stray too far from their families. To many, these Nightmares are simply fairy tales meant to scare juvenile Hoomans into obedience. Initially my research in the region was mainly meant to discover the origin of these tales and compare to various folk tales and monsters throughout the Holocontinent. My discoveries here have however been shocking, as it appears that there is more truth to these tales than I originally had believed.
(1/2)

>>21543897
Hiring a local hunter I had met in one of the eastern most villages of the land to act as my guide, he had brought me southwards along the mountainous border until we came upon a cave. It was good that we had come upon it during daytime, my guide had said, as that which dwelled here only stalked the hills at night. Curious, I wished to approach the cave for a closer look, only to be physically restrained by the Hooman. Insulting my intellect, he asked if I had a death wish. Apparently, he had not heard of anyone who had encountered whatever dwelled in those caves and lived to tell the tale. As he spoke, I noticed two red orbs staring at us from within the darkness of the cave’s mouth. Assuming it had the humanoid body shape that the tales spoke of, it appeared to be nearly two heads taller than myself. That said, I had not managed to get a good look before we were forced to make a hasty retreat back to civilization if we were to make it back before nightfall.

The following day, I had made it back without the local to guide me, as I had concluded he would likely try to prevent my exploration of what might be an incredible new discovery. For the sake of preserving my own life, I did not venture far in, but what I managed to see as the sun angled itself to peek as far in as it possibly could was just as confounding as it was concerning. The mouth of the cave opened to a larger room, wherein lied a large altar in front of a crudely made effigy of some sort. There was something on the alter which, while I couldn’t see it too well from my position, I could clearly make out the smell of. A cadaver. I must have let out a gasp at the realization, as shortly thereafter I could make out movements from the shadows in the cave. Long, elongated and thing limbs stretched out. Pale as a ghost they were, and I had little intent to stick around to find out how territorial or hungry whatever was stirring was.

My outing did however reveal two things about these cave dwelling creatures, as what lived there was quite clearly not truly human.
1) It has a significant level of intelligence considering that, while crude, it was either able to craft or find and use both the altar and the effigy in a way like how a human would.
2) It appears to have some sort of ‘god’ with its own form of worship. I do not think it’s possible that it was just mimicking other religious rites as it likely has had very little opportunity to observe various human traditions.
If the latter of the two could be observed in multiple instances, it would mean that there is some form of communion between these creatures. Indeed, it might even be that there might actually be tribes of these creatures, and that I had simply retreated too soon in order to confirm if it was solitary or not. Could these be remnants of the Schizos of the pre-recorded history of /who/, or could there be a different reason behind why these creatures dwell in the area that was the final zone of battle for the Republic’s establishment?
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>>21543897
>>21543936
Good read. Though I suggest maybe adding a little tidbit about why don't the villagers inform the military or other relevant authorities of the missing persons. Maybe the villagers are doing something illegal themselves(smuggling, growing/manufacturing of banned drugs?).
If you still had the nightmares as remnants of past super soldier experiments, the military should be pretty active in keeping them under wraps. So any irregularities should be noticed and cleaned up relatively quickly.

New /meat/ thread up
come over

>>21546016
Hmm, yeah. You're right. Damn, it's way to easy to accidentally make plot holes. I have another idea, but it's going to take a bit to hammer out how I want to do this. Certain cults might not want the military's attention their way.

>>21537815
The sun begins to peak over the slope of Mt. Mori. A young shrine maiden sweeps the grand temple courtyard all alone. Her absent mind wanders idly to memories of the night before. The star scholars and head priests were correct: last night's meteor shower was exhilarating to behold. The young girl's face grows hot, her steps uneven, remembering with embarrassment the unrestrained jubilation as she and her friends twirled and cheered together beneath the fleeting starlight like they were still schoolgirls. She must have looked so foolish! She dreaded imagining the faces of her senior priestesses as they must have been watching her act so childish last night.

But it was fun...

She stops where she is, and turns to admire her handiwork. She's been up for hours, but she wanted to make sure her cleaning duties were done before she left the temple to visit her family. It's a few hours' walk to the nearest town, so she should hurry if she wants to snag the best morning confections from the bakery before heading home. Her little brother liked the apple pastries, if she recalled. She wondered how much he's grown since last year.

The temple grounds are swept spotless. The lanterns are strewn overhead. The troudabours have the goddess' songs committed to memory now. The cherry trees are in bloom. The Festival is soon upon us.

>>21550121
Those falling stars were pretty Wicked.
Nice lore anon!

OGsuner here bois
Today I think im going to do a lore dump of the different major settlements that I totally didnt name by using a south eastern asian name generator except silvanus XD

>>21553987
SilvAnus ehehehe

>>21554466
It's named by Kronies, after all.

Speaking of hot springs talk last thread, /morig/ also has a thriving hot springs culture. If Sakuran and /rrat/ are the Japan of East Holo, /morig/ is the West

>>21554788
You got your East and West flipside-up anon. But yeah, that's right.

>>21537815
While I'm at it, I might as well also anchor the "pov: you're lost in the Underworld" post from a few threads back >>21144621

>>21543897
>>21543936
>Long, thin, pale limbs
>inb4 it's just an exiled ficklebeat who thought this was a nice cave
>he's too shy to rejoin civilization
>he's trying to dry age his steak, not sure it's working
>there's a sinkhole with a portal at the bottom that people keep falling into

>>21553987
Hey, captain! ri2ner here. you think we should use the conlang? or is it too early

Representative of /who/ here
>Domestication of owls
I am planning on integrating it in the lore in some way, I just haven't been able to write anything coherent as of now.
>War with Haachama
I've planned out a basic thing here, the idea here is that there are stories of the nameless being playing games along with the mad queen of their kingdom, so it became a tradition to make reunions in neutral land to make competitions of board games and sports, even small wrestling events.
>>21543897
>>21543936
This is neat, it's pretty much bigfoot, I still plan on doing a "folk story" section i the lore, so this is nice to have.

>>21558533
probably a bit too early for now. but maybe in a few days we can introduce it IMO. Although if other people ask for it then by all means go ahead.

Since /hlgg/ is like the >H >R >E with the many member (read: split) kingdoms, duchies, and republics, does that mean the emperor is elected from the members or you have your own system?

>>21559767 (me)
Now before anyone say "Why would the HRE have republics inside it huurrrr?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasant_republic
So by definition, /who/ being a republic and a member of the HRE is not mutually exclusive

>>21538018
I wonder how do WAR anon's shanks taste in a stew...

>>21558746
So like this but with owls
https://youtu.be/cWcAAgbLyYo
https://youtu.be/p5it-pAYmKY?t=204

bump

Is anyone selling oxen that can survive the tundra? /nasa/ needs some animals that can pull heavy stuff.

Prompt: /nasa/ sends scientists and diplomats to /pagi/ to see if they are really from space.
Shocked to find out the ayy worshippers speak a dialect heavy/creole of their language

>>21558746
Maybe not full domestication if they're sacred animals. I have an idea from last thread >>21533990

>>21537815
Anchor

OGsuner. With a lore update to better detail the major settlements of /risu/.

Silvanus- The biggest and most fortified settlement of risu, it is also the only one that can be seen from a vessel as parts of it are on the beach. Fortifications became necessary once /meat/ raids began occuring. Pic rel for visual
Gaputan- A quiet settlement that is the main hub for traders at /towa/. Theyre skilled at fishing and nut collecting but are also known for having small traditional farms where they can grow other kinds of nuts and fruits.
Kenkerto- A port settlement that became the initial contact point for /inf/ and began the alliance that changed /risu/ forever. Recently has seen a massive boost in population and activity with talks of it being one of the main production areas of the new pinisi class vessel.
Pasuma- Being the settlement closest to the temple of risu, pasuma gains a massive boost of regeneration magic thats more powerful than most areas. This is the initial contact point during the annual nut tribute and many nearby villagers flock here every year to give risu their nuts. Very strict rule of no settlements being any closer.
Sabatangan- Famed for their prowess in fishing. Recently became a port city along Kenkerto thanks to the influence of /inf/. Unlike kenkerto, the docks here are much larger and more numerous with many planned pinisi to be built in this area.
Panrong- Serves as the main settlement for traders from /mep/ as well as being the place with considerable amount of molerisuners. Popular mining facility with rocks and gemstones being traded among all other major/minor settlements.

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>>21565287
I still wonder if I can integrate the /moon/ defenders of earth against the /pagi/ invaders thing, I could rework it to:
Once a battle large enough to iluminate the entire heavens (atmosphere) left both of them falling down to earth and being forced to survive down here. It'd be fun.
>>21565567
Maybe, I imagine that instead of being sacred animals they'd instead be like a national animal like bears are for Russia or roosters for France. Not particularly sacred, but still seen as part of the nations Identity.

>>21565751
>/moon/ defenders of earth against the /pagi/ invaders
The ones that are left on the surface decided to become friends while their ancestors still in space despise each other

Currently in the process of writing something: https://rentry.org/3wmhe
A /meat/ fic that doesn't have human sacrifice (so far) might be a nice change of pace, I reckon.

>>21559767
The identity of the emperor is a mystery...

>>21566890
Tfw no smol /meat/ priestess waifu

>>21537815
'm back. Looks like Lumi and Yuri are gone from CyberLive. /clg/ going forward will effectively be a Menace general, should the actual Yuri/Lumi discussion go to a better thread. Old /clg will become anemic and busted, and given how Menace was the /wvt/ girl known as Megbert prior to joining CL, there's not much point in keeping our country /clg/ anymore. We are changing our name, so when /lyg/ rolls around, please change everything /clg/ to /lyg/. Including the name of the thread which I represent. Since I don't see any of the Menace people doing shit, we're the the Lampardalean Empire (Basilea ton Lampardaleos) and instituting a top-down ethno-cultural reorganization.

LORE RENTRY: https://rentry.org/ity2d/

>>21559767
I feel like the best translation of board dynamics into Vitubia dynamics would be that the /hlgg/ Empire used to have actual power in ye olden days, but the splits have been basically countries declaring independence from it with the central imperial authority being unable to keep them in their sphere of influence.

>>21566890
Ah, so comfy. I'm interested in the continuation.

>>21567636
There are, and they're delectable

>>21567819
>used to have actual power in ye olden days, but the splits have been basically countries declaring independence from it
That would basically be a few [months, years, insert timescale here] after the split from Japonia, as one of the reasons the exile even happened in the first place was because of excess population.
Dunno if if each nation's initial settlers appeared at their current place after the split, or in a centralised area (ie hlgg for Holo, 2434 for Niji, etc) and then branched out.

>>21567815
I did a theorypost the other day
I think Lumi and Hylo worshippers are still there.
When an agency chuuba becomes a solo indie, it's like converting from polytheism to monotheism
Irl examples are like sol invicta, cult of akhanaten
Lumi, Yuri, Hylo followers are still living in Ayyakkoli borders. But autonomous and monotheistic

I just wanted to drop in to say that >>21518321's suggestion is pretty damned cool. It could be written in as a vaguely occultistic ritual that warries across nations (but has some core elements) and would put the rep in a dream-like state, where they'd be able to discuss things with others. It would also explain why fleets don't use it to communicate - it would require for the messenger to be fully asleep, as well as bound to a place.

What to do for a /vtwbg/ April Fools joke?

>>21572722
we eat /meat/

Didja miss me?
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>>21537815
/nasa/ Station announces Underwear Day for April 1st (on /nasa/'s callendar). For one day everyone is free to walk around inside the station wearing nothing but their underwear. The station has adjusted its climate to where it is comfortable to do so. Alternatively swimsuits allowed optional. However keep in mind that while working you still need to wear your space suits and uniforms for your own safety. Also remember to wear your space suits outside the station as well.

>>21572984
It is illegal for /nasa/ to sell and gift food without an accurate list of ingredients. We do not play pranks with our food. Would /rose/ visitors to /nasa/ accept a gift of freshly baked snickerdoodle cookies?

bump

I do have a question about /infinity/'s factories. Since they have the technology to make precision clockwork without steam engines my question is what do they use for molds? Do they use sand casting, clay casting, plaster casting, or something else?

>>21573440
Snickerdoodle? I'm not a big fan, personally, but I'm sure some Buds might like them.

>>21579697
We have other kinds of cookies from vanilla wafers, to oatmeal raisin, to gingersnaps, to strawberry cream cookies, etc. We're still waiting on our cacao and chocolate shipment from /meat/ before we can make chocolate cookies.

>>21580073
>vanilla wafers and oatmeal raisin
SOLD TO THE MAN IN THE SPACE SUIT! I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!

>>21580347
I have a banana pudding recipe that uses vanilla wafers. Also good taste on raisin oatmeal. Do you want frosted or unfrosted cookies?

>>21580995
I'll take 'em unfrosted. Unless you have those soft frosted cookies, I love those.

>>21581548
We can make soft frosted cookies. You'll have to eat them when you visit. They'll spoil on the way home. We can make preserved cookies that you have to reheat in the oven before eating them. However all preserved cookies are hard cookies. We seal them in air-tight containers filled with nitrogen so the cookies don't get exposed to oxygen and spoil.

>>21569137
I feel like the settlers of each nation would already be at their nation's location, and they would simply secede from the empire, taking their territory with them.

>>21581806
Those words hurt my brain but sounds good!

>>21582088
Breathing air make cookie rot. Special gas stop cookie rot. Cookie need to be cooked again to taste good and not make tummy hurt later.

>>21582542
Ohh! That makes perfect sense now! You should've just said that earlier, silly!

While we're chatting away about the HoloEmpire, there is/was a NijiEmpire, right? Haven't heard about it in a while, but I feel like that's a thing I saw in the thread at some point..

>>21582895
When you arrive we'll have fresh cookies. When you leave we'll give you preserved cookies for the journey home.

https://youtu.be/1nF5xBqHcg0 *

*Obviously Rosebutas visitors are humanoids and will be served cookies on a platter like everyone else. We'll even serve tea.

Page 10 bump. What's going on this fine Friday?

>>21593689
Big EN stream.

>>21593921
Which one?

>>21594563
nvm found it on Gura's channel.

Question for the thread: How is rubber and gum production in your nations? /nasa/ has a little bit of rubber production in climate via rubber tree plant sap. Not enough for commercial production. Some trees like Gum and Spruce can make gums. Rubber's very useful.

>>21539207
While I'm waiting on the geology anons, are any of the climate anons willing to do Sakuran's specific climate analysis?

>>21599907
>open rentry links
>maps no longer there
For fuck's sake. Okay I'm going to be retarded and say you should have volcanic deserts around the live volcanoes. The ground is simply too hot for vegitation to grow regardless of rainfall. If you do have lots of rainfall then the land could be like a warmer Yellowstone the further you get from volcanoes. That said you're on a young hotspring where the soil probably hasn't had enough time to break down into anything farmable. That said Sakuran can still have subsistence farms and gardens so long as they rotate crops and have a solid amount of composte. Even if the water is warm it can still be irrigated with pumps and wells. You just have to let the water cool before using it. Wish I can open the map to see rainfall. I do know /rrat/ is north of Sakuraun. Perhaps the lake has have a smaller creek that goes into Sakuraun?

That's my idiot take.

>>21601237
Continuing. Now that I see the map Sakuraun should be close enough to the coast on both sides as a penninsula. Rainfall is going to happen. Which means Sakuraun is going to have lots of ground water. Which is good news because this means Sakuraun is both a hot spring and geyser paradise. The abundant ground water should also mean in cooler areas there's volcanic forests. Granted the soil quality is still too poor to farm in forests. You're only going to get tall slender trees. However trees do have leaves for compost. So you can harvest a bit of the top soil and tree leaves in the fall. Let them decay in winter. And then use the fertile dirt to grow shallow earth crops and herbs. Sakuraun to me seems like a great place for squash and pumpkins. But I'm no expert farmer. Wish I can open climate map right now.

>>21601952
This one? https://files.catbox.moe/p4q9cf.png

>>21572975
sounds like a typical /meat/ orgy.

My internet is getting stupid weird with 4channel's DNS. So Sakuraun should have good places to farm away from the volcanoes. This post is a test.

>>21601237
Volcanic desert? That sounds cool, any of those on our Earth?

>>21609785
Emi Koussi

The great thing about weekends is that maybe I get to write something in my insomnia induced hallucinations

>>21599907
Sure, just give me a moment!

>>21603360
It's meant more for biome than climate. I'll give Sakuran a deeper look soon.

>>21601237
>>21601952
>>21606141
>>21620152
Thank you both! Just a post containing additional info I though might be useful.
I've attached a pic of a clean close-up of the land (top in picrel).
Volcano reaches a height of ~1583m. (though it'd be useful if you pointed out how height changes could affect the climate)

Bottom pic in picrel notes the volcanic zones:
Innermost purple circle is the volcano caldera at about 15-20km,while the pink lines around it are rifts where lava also flows out from. Lava temperatures reach up to 1200°C, and lava flows for a couple tens of kilometers.
The pink circle is the extent of where lava flows end, typically lava cools and stops flowing before passing this threshold.
The blue circle designates an area where lava flows exist deep underground but, being further away from the main caldera and fault lines, means their only exits are from occasional explosions of cinder cones. Unlike non-explosive lava flows from the main caldera, these lava flows are explosive, spewing thicker, cooler (<1050°C) magma that travels for a few kilometers (<5) before stopping. Of the 5 cinder cones marked with small red circles, only the two easternmost as currently active.
The final green circle contains an area where magma used to reach in the past, when the volcano had been more active, but no new lava flows have reached it for the last few tens of thousands of years, as the volcanic activity has been decreasing slowly.
Beyond the green circle, the land hasn't seen any volcanic activity, apart from maybe the one that created the land millions/billions of years in the past.

>>21599907
Not my best, but this should do. I hope it's to your liking.
In terms of major climate zones, Sakuran is divided into three parts. Easter Sakuran, due to it not being exposed to the cold current coming from the west, has a more stable rainfall pattern, putting it in the humid subtropical climate (Cfa), think southern US or Uruguay. It is reasonably wet, and is probably quite suitable for agriculture in terms of climate. In particular, the river flowing between Sakuran and /micomet/ can probably bring enough nutrient to the riverside land to be Sakuran's rice bowl.
Western Sakuran, however, is more affected by the cold current, making it an overall drier place. This is further divided into southwestern and northwestern Sakuran. Southwestern Sakuran, due to its proximity to the Northern Tropic (Tropic of Cancer), is overall dry, making it a hot semi-arid climate (BSh). It is not as dry as the hot desert that likely dominates a good chunk of Sora, but the dominant plants would still be shrubs,. grass and cacti. It is most similar to the Texan-Mexican border IRL. Near the tip of the volcano, the altitude makes the environment colder (but still generally dry), likely putting it in cool semi-arid climate (BSk) instead around 2000m altitude (yeah, I wrote this before >>21622607). A good chunk of central Spain is of this climate.
For Northwestern Sakuran, it is likely to have a hot-summer Mediterranean climate (Cwa) due to it being near a warm current on the temperate west coast of the continent. It is similar to humid subtropical climate in the east, except its rainfall pattern is reversed, meaning that its summer will be dry while its winter will be wet. It is most similar to SoCal or, well, the Mediterranean IRL. Similar to humid subtropical, it is reasonably suitable for agriculture, although instead of wetter crops like rice, it is more suitable for drought-resistant crops like wheat. Mediterranean climate is also famous for grapes, olives, and vegetables (you might know it as the Mediterranean diet) - basically, if you can find it in a salad, you can probably grow something similar there.

>>21622607
For the volcano, depending on how active it is, eruption material and acid rain might cause places that would otherwise be suitable for agriculture to be barren instead. During winter months, the prevailing wind will be northeasterly, so its effect should not be noticeable (it's a desert anyway), but during summer months, the holo monsoon will cause wind to blow from the southwest, which might be troublesome for the more fertile northeast depending on how far the ejecta goes.

>>21623026
>>21623163
Thank for the analysis!
Regarding ejecta, I'm not sure how far they'd go, I was hoping I'd get to question the geology anons before asking for climate stuff, though I wouldn't expect them to go far beyond the blue circle. That's already like 300km in diameter.
Would you say that the area within the green circle would be arable, or would we have to go beyond that? Also, keep in mind that the western blue circle is home to a few sulphuring springs (effects are obvious I think) and more importantly, iron springs housing bacteria that harm tubers and roots, especially potatoes and sweet potatoes. Not sure if they'd be able to travel through ground water to the surrounding area, or indeed how far.
How would changing the max height of the volcano affect the surrounds, ie would making it taller increase rainfall?
Also, any chance you could make some suggestions on vegetation? If not that's fine as well.
By the way I'm a Med so the northwest sounds like /home/

>>21623026 (Me)
A word on vegetation: both humid subtropical and even a good chunk of Mediterranean climate would be covered in forests of some kind without human influence. However, their optimal environment for agriculture also means that many of them would likely be deforested as civilisation develops (Mediterranean climate is also prone to periodic wildfire, which definitely doesn't help). As such, I can see many of the original forests in Sakuran being logged down and replaced with farmland, orchards, and vineyard.

>>21623589
I was looking at satellite imaging for reference, and it's pretty fucking incredible the impact that human activity (mainly agriculture) has on the appearance of whole continents, even looking from space.

>>21623568
It's hard to tell, since the main cause of volcanic desert isn't the flow of lava itself (although I guess being covered in lava also makes it non-arable), but the airborne fragments and smokes coming from the eruption. In particular, they tend to be rather acidic (which is why they create acid rain when combined with rainfall), which is generally not good for plants we usually eat. That said, it can be mitigated by fertilisers that reduce soil acidity, namely agricultural lime.
For non-airborne elements, though, I don't think its spread would be very far, so we can probably say that the area between green and blue circle shouldn't have their fertility be significantly affected by volcanic activity.
Changing the max height of the volcano mostly affect its (non-erupting) temperature, although the land would be mostly dry regardless. However, while it being taller likely would not increase rainfall, it could potentially generate a lot of fog in areas with steep slopes, which could be harvested for additional water if the people are creative enough.

For vegetation, assuming no human intervention:
>Mediterranean: a mix of forests and shrubs, plants here will likely be adopted to the dry summer season, meaning that they'll likely have hard/waxy leaves with short stems (known as sclerophyll or chaparral), so you can probably expect oak, olive (naturally), strawberry, cedar, and pine as the main trees. Vegetation will likely be denser around sources of water.
>Semi-arid: primarily shrubs and hardy grasses (cacti is probably the most famous plants thriving here, although be noted that it originated in the Americas) due to its overall drier condition, although some trees (most famously acacia/wattle) manages to grow here as well.
>Humid-subtropical: Primarily mixed woodland. Oak, walnut, elm, camphor, bamboo (technically not trees), cedar, spruce, and gingko are some examples, but you likely won't see any of them being particularly dominant.

In terms of plants that are useful to humans, Sakuran can probably grow grapes in the NW, and citrus in both NW and E, as well as wheat and rice respectively, although both are hardy enough to be grown on either side with some agricultural techniques. Cotton and tobacco can also be grown, although extensive irrigation might be necessary in the west.

>>21625229
Thanks for your help anon. I've noted everything down, guess I'll have to look more into the specifics of vegetation and figure out which ones I'd want, while waiting for the geo anons to maybe show up.

Since /meat/ is still in gaybaby jail
https://youtu.be/skRXLsz3BLU

>>21627718
ty anon. but i feel weird commenting about /meat/ related stuff on a non/meat/ thread. i don't want to take up space from other conversations.

>>21628060
Damn jannies

Wanted to write a little something on the topic of the /morig/-/kfp/ naval cooperation.
Any KFP here got some critique on the accuracy of my representation, or suggestions?

Professional relationships: /kfp/ and /morig/

She strides into the bar, with the steady gait of an experienced maritime officer
“Jürgen! What a fucking drunkard, I knew I’d find you here.”
A uniformed Orange Beret sergeant looks up from his corn nuts to glare at the intruder.
“Samantha? You salty bitch, what are you doing here?”
“Got myself assigned to the harbor for a while, some logistics chores to take care of. You know, got work to do, can’t spend all day in the bar dodging my better half.”

She plants herself on a stool next to the sergeant and gives the barkeep a well-practiced hand signal, prompting a pint of nearly black booze.
“The pot calls the kettle black, you just do it on a ship instead.”
“Oh ho, marriage is making you witty, ain’t it?”

Bone white skin stretches over her cheekbones as she smiles at the jab.
“Anyway Sam, how are you liking Kaiserreich waters? Enjoying the weather?”
“Oh, the sea’s nicer near the Nijicontinent, but the lack of /meat/heads here is pretty nice. Hunting down your schizo pirates and eggs is a cakewalk compared to the defensive campaigns of /ggg/.”
“Huh, I thought you’d be the type to enjoy that living-on-the-edge lifestyle.”
“Schizos don’t try to bite my tits off while I skewer ‘em. You have no idea what fighting those bastards is like, ya’ll have it easy here.”
“Hah, get off your high horse, I’ve fried enough trinitarians to be spared that.”
“Fine, fine, let’s skip the cock-measuring contest for today, how’s the wife?”

A prideful smile creeps onto his face.
“She’s good, she’s gotten so big! We think it might be twins”
“Fuck, Mori help us all. One more Jürgen was already too much.”

The woman produces a golden /morig/ doubloon from her pocket, holding it curiously between her index and her thumb.
“Hey, you’re the one who asked. Anyway, I get a feeling you had a purpose walking in here.”
“Yeah, how about that gunpowder?”

Jürgen raises an eyebrow.
“Gunpowder? What about it?”
“I was going through our warehouse's stores, supply’s getting low. You’re going to the national arsenal farther inland, right?”

Her thumb pushes the coin towards her first knuckle, but it slides off and clinks loudly on the hardwood floor.
“Ah, careful. I am, want me to put in a word with the quartermaster?”
“You know nothing gets done if it’s just my bony ass sending semaphores.”

The second attempt improves on the first, but the coin slips and falls at the second knuckle.
“Your native freund hasn’t taught you how to get things done here yet?”

She reaches down to pick up the doubloon.
“He’s taught me you chickens get clingy if your girl is at sea for over a week, not much else. Can you do it? Sinking pirates goes way faster if we can shoot ‘em.”
“You know I can, but what the hell are you doing?” The sound of gold striking the planks resonates in the small establishment a third time, to Jürgen’s dismay.
“I saw a sailor do it, this dance-the-coin-on-your-knuckles thing? Looked cool, I’m trying it out.”
“Fuck me, you’re such a dork. Alright, but you’ll owe me. I reckon we can get you stocked up in two weeks, I’m headed to the mountains tomorrow.”

Samantha flicks the gold up and catches it in her hand, a “cool coin move” she manages to execute.
“Sounds good, I’ll just forget the third time I saved your ass, a couple more of these and we’ll be even.”

Jürgen shakes his head, but his eyes light up at the memory.
“Hah, something like that. Say, heard anything about this deadbeat jeweller who just boated over? The wife’s been nagging me about Mont Mori diamond earrings.”
“Pffft, way, way out of your paygrade Jürgen! Maybe the Kaiserin can buy you a pair for your leal service in fifteen years...”

>>21629221
Want Samantha Fembeat GF

>>21629605
Ah, don't we all...

>>21566890
Finished my writing: https://rentry.org/3wmhe
I hope it'll be an interesting read, maybe even with a working twist.
Anchoring >>21537815

>>21631545
GDI!! You drew me in and then sucker punched me with the twist

>>21631694
Welcome to /meat/!
Still, I hope the atmosphere is more on the comfy side despite the twist.

>>21631804
Janny purges in /meat/ are like earthquakes in Japan

>>21631879
Some enterprising locals have even learnt to exploit the aftermath... if only we can actually do that

>>21631920
So in a different country, jannies are praised as upholders of natural law and order?

>>21582083
>>21569137
See the Zhou dynasty I guess. But of course /hlgg/ is still relevant, unlike the king of Zhou. But the new chuubadoms do present a problem. Using the council splits as example, I guess they can either be unsettled lands that worshippers of the council arrived and colonized it or they were sparsely settled frontier that weren't developed enough to form a nation and declare independence until way later after the splintering of /hlgg/.

>>21629221
that is so cool

>>21632013
Well, jannies sometimes actually do their job in pruning schizo threads, so I assume that countries that don't like said threads will see them in a more positive light. We know at least /morig/'s ICly fine with jannies going ham on /meat/ like >>21540920

Priestess from the Hololands vs priestess from /meat/

>>21632347
Given what their job likely entails, you have to have some degree of badass to qualify as a /meat/ priestess. Niceness and BS tolerance probably vary a lot, but wasting valuable ritual meat on stupid mistakes probably won't make them care more about you.

>>21632691
/meat/ Healer: Oh it gets better! When the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing... and the cleric was never heard from again! AHAHAH!

*VSPO cannoneer laughs with him*

/meat/ Healer: Anyway... that's how I got lunch.

>>21623026
Would Sakuraun be able to grow Kobacha (Japanese Pumpkin)?

>>21635724
The eastern side should be able to grow it with no problem. For the western side, the issue's that there isn't enough rainfall (~550mm according to wiki) to let them develop outside of the coast or any rivers there might be, so you would have to irrigate the land if you want to grow it there.

not sure if anyone cares, but new /meat/ is up. >>21634719

>>21636271
Old man yells at jannies

Boomp

qmuB

>>21636271
pruned again. fuck jannies.

>>21636271
and ded

Meidos please! Cant a nigga have a ryona thread?

/nasa/ Principal here. I'm going to have to slow down posting out of fear of 4channel getting DNS blocked again. Don't know if its router or my ISP.

>>21636015
I was thinking Sakuraun can be famous for its hotsprings, sake, and pumpkins. I know /morig/ would have sake too.

>>21642103
Apply google dns?

>>21642103
Well, they can grow the relevant material, so I don't see why not. It goes well with the theme too.

I'm glad to help Sakuraun figure out their farming situation.

/nasa/ is interested in trading for aluminum, nickel, and zinc. Which everything except nickel will have to be transported raw because there's no way to properly smelt it without electric furnaces. /nasa/ still needs to figure out what other minerals it has for trade. Hoping there's more than iron, coal, and shale here.

>>21646376
Considering the hilly terrain of the Republic, we probabl have large deposits of pretty much anything, can't really be exact with what thought, I'm not a geologist.

>>21648378
Bauxite and laterite are found in the tropics with lots of erosion. Maybe /who/ can have more minerals buried deep in the mountains?

>>21601952
>>21635724
>>21636015
>we have pumpkins
Ikz. They can be eaten raw, in various pies, you can eat their flowers as wellfried or stuffed etc. Not my favourite food but they're pretty good.
>>21642103
>for its hotsprings, sake, and pumpkins
That was the plan, mostly for the hot springs and sake, pumpkins are a nice plus
>>21643027
I'm thankful you did, too.
Though I do wonder, would Sakura trees be able to grow normally, or would I have to pull some chuubanite stuff to make it work? Apart from the theme, we'd need them to make products like perfume.
Also it's Sakuran, though I guess /nasa/ can have their own interpretation of the name, our accent may be a bit heavy

>>21649862
>would Sakura trees be able to grow normally, or would I have to pull some chuubanite stuff to make it work?
Depends on how picky you are about the type of cherry blossom you get. Prunus campanulata (Taiwan cherry) seems to be the most suitable type of cherry, although it seems Prunus × incam (Okame cherry, which itself is a cross involving Taiwan cherry) also grow well alongside some SoCal cherry tree types.
The usual kind of cherry blossom seen in Japan requires at least a month of almost zero degree Celsius to blossom "properly", so Sakuran probably won't have them. Of course, if you really want the archetypical cherry blossom, there's nothing stopping you from having a species that look the same but is more tolerant of warm weather.

>>21650826
How would a species of volcanic cherry blossoms work?

>>21651136
Anything that thrives on volcanic soil (called andisol by USDA) would have to be adopted to the acidic soil. The soil itself is actually fairly fertile, so growing stuff on them shouldn't be difficult other than the acidity and occasional phosphorus problem. For Sakuran's particular climate, I would say being resistant to drought will come in handy too.

>>21570992
Emperor Kárdio IV Sideros basically said "worship Lumi and Yuri or you're a heretic. Vera is okay, though."
Everyone else is a various variety of lower class. Being caught worshipping Misaki and Hylo is an automatic ticket into slavery, antebellum USA-style.

>>21567815
Are you allowed to just full on take control of a general like this ? Just because the V-tubers you like have left the company doesn't mean you shift and change the whole general to acomidate you. Its like if Watame graduated/left the company and suddenly bakatare just shifts its entire idenity to accomidate this one v-tuber

>>21655142
He's doing a little bit of prediction here, if Yumi/Lumi discussion goes to another thread. It seems like there's a Yumi + Lumi + Cyberlive general going on right now, though.

>>21632104
Thanks anon! I tried to get in references to the lores while retaining the casual chat vibe. It's my first lore entry that is conversational instead of more academic.
I'll anchor it once a /kfp/ signs off on it not having blatant lore mistakes.

>>21652099
Is there a way to lower acidity of soil like tilling baking soda or other non-toxic bases into the dirt?

>>21631545
Hahaha fuck me, that was a good story, the end got me good. Nice work.

I'm hoping the bakery in /who/ will go well. /nasa/ has some wind-powered mixing machines that will speed up preparing dough. The gear boxes from /infinity/ should make them easy to use without ripping your arm off. They even come with emergency stops.

>>21537815
One thing I know is under-appreciated about /nasa/ is our workflow. /nasa/ is really good about planning things and executing them. Perhaps its because /nasa/ is familiar with the Ford assembly line where its more efficient training one man to assemble one part instead of training one man to make everything in the machine. Sure /nasa/ has to have jack of all trades astronauts. However those astronauts can quickly find a role that suits their strength. /nasa/'s workshop forge for example has a team of 10 people to make the tools one step at a time. Its also the same with farming. We rotate jobs but there's always a tiller, waterer, harvester, etc. Even when something goes wrong we have emergency response plans for just about any scenario. Granted it is impossible for an individual to know how to handle every crisis in the world. But there's enough diversity in minds that there is always someone who would know exactly what to do based on what they know. Command is a bit more modular thanks to our educated workers. That said we do sometimes run into crisis where two minds debate too long. In a fire time is everything. This is where experienced elders come in who know what risks they need to take to save time.

Deep space travel is a risky venture. If you cannot take risk then you cannot deep space travel. Its the same with sailing a ship. There's always something that can go wrong that sinks the ship. Education of individuals are highly valued in /nasa/. You don't have to know everything because such knowledge is impossible. What you do have to know is just enough to work efficiently and to survive. Also knowing how to search for resources in the ship's database helps too.

>>21629221
Very nice way to tie lore and creative writing together, It took me a second to realize that they are colleagues but they make for a really funny dynamic, also her failing at the chuuni coin flip is just super cute!
Love the semaphore network reference, and I can really Imagine knowing someone in the military can get supplies moving a bit more quickly.
Only one small addition: (difficult to catch because it’s only in the /meat/ archive, but not in the /kfp/ one)
While there are no /meat/ raids, so no military presence, there are small amounts of goods being trafficked from /meat/ to /kfp/ via civilian traffic
I would assume mostly via meat ships since /kfp/ isn’t a large sea power.
So the question arises how /morig/ deals with civilian meat ships…
These goods are mostly spices for food, so pretty harmless, however a small-volume slave trade pleasuring the top .01% exits as well.
So we might have a situation on our hands that resembles Casablanca or Switzerland during WW2 maybe even something like Montague against Capulet.
Maybe /kfp/ officialls outlaw engagements or hostilities in their territorial water and port cities but realistically a fisticuff between drunken sailors is pretty common (more common than usual at least)
Also since kfp are also just humans with empathy and eating humans is gross the public opinion would probably be slightly in favor of the deadbeats
What do you think?

>>21629221
Samantha is cute! CUTE!

I wonder how much of a difference /nasa/'s rations would make in KFP's and /morig/'s navy? /nasa/'s rations if compared to today's food would pre-packaged meals like Hamburger Helper or instant ramen noodles. Though they'd be closer to MREs as the food would be better preserved than commercial pre-packaged foods. So I read that the rations only last for three years. I'm going to say preserved space tech will allow the rations to last for up to five years.

Age of exploration rations are terrible. Outside of canned vegetables that don't last half the voyage rations are usually hardtack and salted leather to put it politely. Each MRE package has enough calories and nutrition for a 2000 calorie per day diet. MRE's are a variety of dried vegetables, dried milk, and rehydratable meat, and pasta that all cook together. MREs also have peppermint candy to make meals not suck as much. Its better to eat the peppermint candy at the end of the meal as desert. I'm judging this from my own experience with eating an MRE in boy scouts. We shot guns that day too. Good times.

>>21666704
Thank you! We discussed that with /meat/ a bit some time back, basically civilian /meat/ traders of common goods wouldn't be apprehended at all, since they can plausibly be unaffiliated with /meat/'s more unsavory activities. After all, /morig/ is opposed to /meat/'s blasphemous activities, not its very existence. Within /morig/ waters, patrols would likely do a bit of ethnic profiling and hail them more often than others, to sniff about for any excuse to mess with them, like a cop looking for weed in a basketball american's glove box, but they'd have to adopt a gentler touch in an ally's territory.
For example, a slaver ship in /morig/ or international waters would prompt an arrest or a fight, depending on the perp's response, but agreements with allies would force deadbeats to play nice if the slaver is going about perfectly legal business according to local laws. /morig/ sailors in those posts would probably get in situations where they have to let a slaver ship go by unmolested Samantha feeling internal struggle entry idea?. I can imagine they would get very conflicted about those events, and there would be some deadbeat ships patrolling outside of those maritime borders, specifically trying to catch those ships before they got to safety in /kfp/ waters.
Since the slaves coming into /kfp/ are high-grade ones destined for the nobility, there would probably also be a dynamic where those slavers would have the means and contacts to camouflage the slaves as passengers and the ship as a perfectly normal vessel, which would be harder if you stacked three dozen chained up, bleeding raid victims in your hold.
And yes, deadbeat and /meat/ sailors would absolutely be looking for excuses to throw down when on shore leave kek.
>>21667071
I'm glad I managed to write an appealing character!

>>21629221
the addition of characters into this makes this place feel much more alive. before it felt like we were creating a sterile exoplanet with regions, stories like these are finally breathing life into the world we made. I love this

>>21669150
I'll be honest, I've been battling in my head with an idea of writing a short story set in /nasfaqg/ but since it'd be somewhat reliant on a specific plutocrat modelled after a real player I fear it'd be either too deep into circlejerk or namefagging, even if I don't explicitly mention them by name.

>>21669150
I could have explained /nasa/ lore with walls of text. However writing the principal's logs showed just how much was at stake for our survival. It was enough to show you what was actually going on on a human level while still adding backstory to the entire region. Between the principal logs and now I've seen more stories pop up. Speaking of stories I need to get back to writing about our /meat/ guest.

>>21667901
I believe /morig/ already has an agreement with /nasa/! We're sending them locally grown foodstuffs for rations for our navy. They're a big upgrade from the stockfish a ship biscuits they were used to, though they'll still take a fresh meal of ship-fished seafood over them. They're really handy for those long voyages with few ports to resupply at.

>>21669782
If you look up MREs on Wikipedia and look at the menus there's quite a variety of dishes. And when /nasa/ gets a coffee supply then you bet we'll add instant coffee to rations as well. /nasa/ was very careful with selecting both dishes that are known to the age of this world as well as new modern dishes that can't be made yet. And as always you want to eat your rations when you have literally nothing else left to eat. Also the nutrition should keep away scurvy. We've also included dried fruit-drink mixes. All you have to do is measure fruit-drink powder with appropriate amount of freshwater. We have lemonade and fruit punch flavors. They're pretty good on Vitamin C and electrolyte minerals. Still can't replace fresh fruits. But its better than nothing.

>>21670316
That sounds fantastic, but got any peanut butter in there yet? This stuff keeps for half a century, apparently.

>>21670399
Some of the MREs have peanut butter and fruit preserves to go with crackers. Though our production is limited to the greenhouses. They need warm soil to grow.

>>21669150
Hey, I'm happy you liked it!. I think that as humans, we need to see actual people in a worldbuilding setting to get really invested into it. Just helps with putting yourself into the world.

So peanuts need about 130-150 days of summer. They're pretty delicate to grow. They need 85-90 degrees Fahrenheit. So about 30 degrees Celsius. They are grown in Florida and Virginia in the USA. They also repair nitrogen in the soil. /nasa/ is too far north to grow peanuts. I'm wondering if there's any other nation that has a peanut crop.

>>21672150
You forget we have a pretty substantial amount of greenhouses, allocating one for peanuts wouldn't really impact us much.

>>21672336
>>21672150
DID SOMEONE SAY NUTS!?

>>21537815
In the heart of the Rice Belt of morig, many kilometers past the golden fields of grain in the shadow of Mt. Mori to the north, there exists an old abbey, modest in stature but nevertheless crafted with intricate care, standing in graceful solitude, watching over farmers working dutifully in their paddies. It is not a shrine, nor is there a scripture stele anywhere on the premises denoting it as a site of worship. Curiously, it is dedicated to a foreign goddess of harvest, considered a compatriot of the death goddess. Deep Scripture states that the she acted as salvation and guidepost to the goddess prior to her ascension, so she is nonetheless revered in a sort of cult manner by the residents of the island despite not being recognized by the local pantheon.

The abbey is not formally recognized by the Goddess Faithful as an official site of worship, but they nevertheless maintain the abbey by facilitating seasonal rotations of a small group (2-4) of shrine maidens dispatched to act as caretakers. Receiving actual worshipers is rare, but they are not unwelcome. The building—and its dedicated goddess—is nonetheless a precious thing to deadbeats.

>>21676783
>that the she
Maybe I should stop doing this while on drugs

>>21676783
Ahh... The milky one...
You paint a lovely picture, thanks anon.

>>21674485
Peanuts are actually legumes.

>>21672336
We did unfold the station. Which means we now have more greenhouse space. It'll be a long summer but we can grow and harvest a solid crop of peanut if there's demand.

>>21677863
well shit

>>21677863
Yea, as much as we are suffering on the tech department, i feel that we should have our farming pretty set up for basically anything this planet can grow. Would also go with the lore of us being here mainly for ingredients.

>>21537815
Anchoring for /morig/:
https://rentry.org/r93ao

>>21678565
There's a crossthread section

>>21678249
Peanuts are crunchy like nuts. They're like a really sweet nut. Peanuts are some of squirrels favorite foods.

>>21678275
We still have a limited supply of people, power, water, and fertilizer. There are some crops that are fine growing outside in the south where its more mild. Wheat, carrots, sweat peas, etc. can be grown outside as natural as the greenhouse. We've already drilled up irrigation wells and tilled the fields. Internally we have four greenhouses at different climates to cover most of our nutritional needs. We can rework the greenhouse we used for our wheat crop into a peanut crop to help recover the soil's nitrogen. Then we'll rotate greenhouses once that harvest is done. Its mid-spring. So we got plenty of time to work the soil.

>>21678883
Oh, that's where that should go then.
>>21537815
Anchoring: >>21678565 goes in crossthread, /morig/ and /kfp/.

Upon further research /risu/ will love peanuts and peanut butter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxSq2p8H1E

>>21680548
thats just fucking cute

>>21537815
Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Information corps

Information, be it scientific, technical, or folk, is an important form of advancing the power available to humanity, unfortunately, there are those that wish for their techniques to not be spread or known about and keep them under wraps, and equally there is such information that must not fall to potentially dangerous elements. This necessitated the creation of a govermental department of the Republic dedicated to intelligence and counter-intelligence.
3 different "information corps" active during wartime were consolidated into a single entity by various diplomats and leaders of the nation:
The 1st being "Special Diplomatic Division" (SDD). Agents that the Republic had for diplomatic and interstate activities, these were mainly involved in obtaining and stealing anything that comes from other states and political entities, also dealing with backdoor deals.
2nd was the "Military and Disciplinary Action" (MDA). The information Corps of the Military before consolidation, while the SDD dealt directly with interstate activities the MDA was originally tasked as an internal police force for the armed forces, it very quickly evolved into an espionage force for obtaining enemy plans and infiltrating their leadership structures, penal battalions were often used and reformed into units for these goals, in short, causing as much mayhem inside enemy formations and knowing their next steps.
3rd is a tad different from the others, being originally formed by lower class citizens and middle class merchants to "Protect the Republic" the "Republican Vanguard" (RV) was an extremely violent and aggresive counter-intelligence volunteer organization that wished to uproot any potential infiltrators and enemy agents, their success rate was originally quite low, they very quickly gained much experience and became an extremely competent organization.
Further information about these organizations and their structures has been scrubbed from books, althought inferences can be made based on records about how they acted.
All of these organizations were forcefully unified and consolidated in structure into the Republic Intelligence Division (RID) by multiple leaders of these organizations and by pressure of the Republic itself. Notably, the main reason the organizations united is said to be due to a shared interest in technology and intelligence regarding technology. Thus, the new organization took on all previous duties and jumbled a lot of its personnel together to maximize its experience and has a current interest in tech stealing. Very few is known about its activites since the consolidation however.

>>21682027
Very cool. There isn't enough written regarding the Republic's various governmental entities and agencies(or how it works really).
Also great writing prompt for stories.I am starting to feel like /who/ lore is a little stiff. Time to write some lore-friendly short stories I guess.

>>21683708
I was the only one writing lore for /who/ for a while, so I mainly wrote about how I'd structure things so that I'd have a solid base for me and anyone else to work off in a future (like the tech stealing thing, it's something that can be used to portray the Republic in writing), and also I'm not good at writing stories either, the only one that i've written is the first part of the shared story with /nasa/. If it seems stiff it's probably because I tend to look and write things from a somewhat strategic standpoint, that or rather, I'm not good at writing.

>>21685385
Yeah The republic's army is a little too information dense and a lil too "official" as well. I'll try to write an officer/soldier's diary or smth once I finish it(only artillery and fortifications left). Also, have some thoughts about the daily lives in the republic. Hope these would add more variety to the lore.

>>21685829
Oh I did write the street culture document, I guess most people in the Republic are non-chalant and a tendency for pragmatism, this would be seen too across the officer corps I guess

>>21658109
As a matter of fact, you can, and it's a pretty common thing to do actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_lime

>>21672150
/meat/ says hi! (it's listed as groundnut in the rentry)

>>21648378
I tried looking up information about what /who/ likely has in terms of minerals. From what I can tell, the more hilly area of /who/ is likely some kind of foreland basin - the land folding because the area east of it (/rrat/ highland) is being lifted up due to continental collision. RL examples of this kind of terrain includes Junggar Basin, Po Basin, and Aquitaine Basin.
Because of the (somewhat) active volcanism and the fold structures, eastern /who/ will likely be relatively minerally rich, although maybe not as rich as those with a continental-oceanic subduction zone (which effectively melts the oceanic plate subducted under and cause its minerals to bubble up). Copper and iron can probably be expected as the main metal being mined there, although tin, gold, lead, zinc, and silver will likely be present in smaller quantities.
Another common resource in foreland basin is hydrocarbon, since the folds create traps that allow petroleum and gas to emerge in more accessible locations. That said, the accessibility is relative, so how exploitable the oil reserve is remains ambiguous, especially with our current tech level. Coal might also be present, although the pressure there is likely not enough to make them anthracite, so bituminous coal might be more likely as carboniferous rock was pushed up and exposed by weathering.
Speaking of weathering, precipitation brought by the westerlies likely cause a decent amount of it (although not to the same level as the constant rains of the tropics), so /who/ can probably find a decent amount of clay and mudstone, as well as some kaolinite. Bauxite might be present, but likely not enough to be economically viable (given that they would be more abundant in tropical wetland). Another effect of weathering is that minerals might be carried downstream making the coastal area somewhat richer in minerals (think panning for gold), and groundwater movement might also build up deposits in the coast (lead and zinc is the most common ones, but all metals mentioned above can be carried this way). should /who/ has uranium deposit? the very idea makes me shudder...

>>21691766
Aquitaine Basin does have some Uranium mining. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0265931X16301667
So I would say yes, /Who/ should definitely have Uranium.

>>21691766
That has pretty much everything I wanted, lucky me.
>spoiler

>>21691766
Geology anon is this you?

>>21694131
If only. I mostly do climate and plant stuff.

bump

GUYS!!
The biggest uranium reserves are in the Kongo!
Guess who's the tropical powerhouse of /vt land!

>>21697975
The colonial power that manages to ruthlessly conquer the underdevelopped natives of the country you're thinking of?

>>21698168
>"Fret not! For we have got the Maxim Gun and they have not!

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Folk tales

1. the Sandman
In the darkness of the night during full moons the division between the soulpath and our reality is at its weakest, the sandman crosses into our world to pay visits, a wicked being, you may be doing an essay or catching up on the newspaper and he'll surely appear! With all the care in the world, he'll treat you nice, get you comfortable before he strikes, Huzzah! it's suddenly morning and you didn't get to finish that oh so important work you had... You sure do feel well rested thought.

2. Jabberwock
Oh what a brutalliant day it seets to be.
Let yourself clight and frill for a jab at it.
The Jabberwock won't be pealfed at me.
But I'll clack it up with my bladient Vorpal.
Just as the Unknown did so in a gest past.
Kris blade ot and belk 3 mountains, pal.

3. Fairy wars
The prankster fairies are hard to take seriously, the shining steel that breaks them apart makes them no threat, but to each other they seem to be downright brutal, they will shoot and use their magic to tear each other's courts apart unless the goddess of magic intervenes, whenever spring rolls around their funerary dust will make humans sneeze with force.

4. Panjandrum
Rolling explosives, or a man of great stature, impossible to know what it is, but you will know when you see it.

5. Hero Watson
the legendary usurper of time, who challenged the gods and made a nation for herself, a human hero of grand proportions, the Nameless being watched and spied with great fascination until she could learn more about such a character.

No anchor because I really need feedback on what to add.

>>21700243
My ELS brain can't understand the Jabberwock poem... Also, what's Panjandrum referencing? I swear I'm a stream watcher but I still don't get it.

I guess adding Boomei, caffeine demon, Monty & co. and also animol? Interaction between Mooms and other holomems can be made into folk tales too. Something like Polka's bird house and Gura killing Mumei in block game.

My ESL brain can't understand the Jabberwock poem... Also, what's Panjandrum referencing? I swear I'm a stream watcher but I still don't get it.

I guess adding Boomei, caffeine demon, Monty & co. and also animol? Interaction between Mooms and other holomems can be made into folk tales too. Something like Polka's bird house and Gura killing Mumei in block game.

Do ancient polytheists had waifu arguments?
>Athena's a whore! Diana is best girl!
>Bastet is best hag
>Uooooohhh!! Klothos!

>>21700723
>Jabberwock poem
If you can't understand it, then don't worry about it because neither can I.
Panjandrum is part of a nonsense poem from some author I can't remember. Also some weird weapon the british made during WW2.
Boomei is a good one. I should add in Animal as a chimera. Monty and the others are harder to add in, caffeine demon seems easy to integrate.
>interactions being folk tales
That's what I was planning already. I'm just really sleep deprived.

>>21701023
Look up futurist and dada works
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zang_Tumb_Tumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaum

Well, I spent half the day implementing an LOD system for the globe with geonodes instead of making the biome materials... This'll make it so I can zoom into countries a lot more, if I can get it to work. Not sure I'll use it, but it was fun regardless.

>>21703273
Fancy

>>21703273
I kneel to this autism. I kneel to all the autism in this thread for that matter. Y'all are awesome.

It isn't really requested, but I reckon I should do one for my main thread.
With the exception of the southwestern coast, the majority of /meat/ is covered in tropical forests. In the northern bay and the eastern coast, a combination of onshore wind and warm current means there will be sufficient rainfall for the forest to be evergreen rainforest, while the northwestern coast falls under a rain shadow, resulting in it being a less dense seasonal forest.
Near the southern edge of the tropical monsoon climate, the forest gradually thins out as rainfall reduces due to the cold current becoming a more dominant factor of the local climate, putting the southwestern coast (and majority of /hfz/) in a hot arid climate.
Inland /meat/ is dominated by the subtropical highland climate, a high-elevation variant of the east coast monsoon climate. Cloud forests might develop in the eastern hills. It is also likely home to most of /meat/'s coffee plantations.

>>21567815
If you're still around, mind if I ask if you have a preferred environment for /clg/? I painted the majority of it as arid in the biome globe, but in hindsight it should probably have more tropical rainforest, so I want to ask you if you have a preferred environment for me to base a climate overview around.

>>21703845
>>21703955
Autism is what dreams are made of. Thanks anons.

live

>>21705185
I kneel!
t. meathead

not feeling well. thank you for your understanding. and thamk you to OGsuner including us in lore, very sweet
>>21537815
here is some overdue lore
>Gay brothels
rentry.org/4knoc
>One of many reasons for abandoning isolationism
rentry.org/gqmae

>>21710195
>wake up on a fine morning to catch Mori's birthday stream
>Navigate to /vtwbg/ through pure muscle memory as my crusty eyes flutter open, still in bed
>My oculars come to rest on
>infinity
>Gay brothels
I love you guys, never change.
Also, the insecure foreign affairs ministry is cute.

>>21710923
thank you anon
>Also, the insecure foreign affairs ministry is cute
t-thanks...

>>21710195
>Gay brothels
Very nice...

t. someone who once wrote like 8k words on prostitution in a different worldbuilding project

>>21710195
>Gay brothels
it doesn't get much better than this

>/inf/'s first thought to curb lewding their priestesses is gay brothel's
>instead of brothel's with women

>>21713461
Apparently the boobs are the deciding factor when it comes to impersonating Kornii... does that mean they don't have a lot of flatties?

>>21713618
There is also some discussion about this, but we let the original vision fly as it was funnier. We had also to fix some –non published here yet– lore for the gay brothels to make sense. We were committed to this kronie get the lore as envisioned.

>>21713889
>gay brothels are serious business
Unironically I love you guys and I wish this shit could fly in my general

>>21710195
>Forced breeding priestesses proposal rejected
>Gay brothels got in
Nigga

>>21713961
We might or might not have a snake dong flag in the working. There is not consensus yet.

>>21713618
>being an oppai but not good enough to be a priestess is seen as a great shame in infinity society
>oppaironies saddened and ashamed of their lewd bodies
H-hot... I wonder if our rep will expound on this idea...

>>21714079
I think the consensus is priestesses need to remain virgins as the church is very strict in the interpretation of Kronii as a friendless hikkineet perma virgin lesbian that is only meant to be lewded in writing. And since priestesses are meant to emulate that, they cannot be bred.

>>21714079
kek

>>21714187
I don't know if I should post it here as it's unfinished business, but the idea is that we've a tier list of priestess.

The ones than don't produce milk can do whatever, as a miko; but milk producing ones can only have sex if married, and our One Priestess should be virgin as that is as we believe –delude– our oshi is (she is also a hikki).

Also, they get big boobed when the get the gift of producing Kronii's Milk.

>>21691766
So /meat/ has east Hololive covered for coffee and peanut butter. This does give /nasa/ the opportunity to cover west Hololive's markets with its greenhouses. Though greenhouses are made to grow everything, not just cash crops.

>>21715402
That's because growing things in greenhouses tend to be more expensive than just growing them on farmland, so cash crops will be more profitable with their high unit price. Then again, /nasa/'s environment means they would have to grow *everything* in greenhouses, so that doesn't necessarily apply.

Hello gentlemen. OGsuner here. With a few notes and stuff.
First off to ri2ner i think now is a good time to show off the conlang you were talking about. Im planning on taking the lead of what a few others have been doing recently and telling stories of some of the risuners. Also with the road and inf ports completed now im gonna start including the bog iron mining and if i remember correctly /nasa/ was willing to give to us a saw that we can use to build our ships in exchange for stuff (i forgot what they wanted). Sadly i wont have the time today but tomorrow is looking great so ill probably do it then. Btw ri2ner and any other treerrats lurking about feel free to come up with ideas and shit. I love hearing from you lot. Just keep n mind that /risu/ is SEA themed, particularly after indonesia.
>>21710195
Of course! Your the reason risuners were able to realize for the most part that there are people more powerful than them and there are ways to better their society. It was very much a historic moment for us.

Meanwhile just remember we didn't do a vote post for this week. Don't think there was anything to be voted on but still

>>21715864
Kinda sucks /nasa/ isn't in a good place for materials and farming in general. Which means we're going to have to rely on imports for a lot of our rare earths.

>>21717422
>show off the conlang you were talking about
I think it's being made by a nasfaqg anon

>>21718109
What are some things we could vote on? I think we've had some discussion regarding a calendar year that used by historians and such.

>>21565591
Happy to see Risu become the trading center its deserve to be. It like watching your baby learning to walk.

Oh fuck!
/infinity/ having viking mercs and bodyguards is just like the Byzantine Varangians!

>>21565591
not finished but here's a newer version of silvanus

>>21723327
That's beautiful. I'd love to have a drawanon like you in our thread.

i wont lie that this place has been great culture exchange
Just last month I have no idea what /infinity/ does, /meat/ has legit chuubas, nor terms like mozzies mean

>>21724473
We are great kissers chu~

>>21724473
unironically its the best global thread /vt/ ever had

>>21700243
>>21700723
>>21701023
Alright, now that I'm not delirious I can try to explain the Jabberwock poem I made
>brutaliant
I combined the words "Brilliant" and "Brutal"
>seets
from the word "seems" and "sit"
>clight
From "cling" and "fright"
>frill
from "fret" and "thrill"
>bladient
"blind" and "shine" I could have combined that better
>Vorpal
Directly lifted from the original Jabberwocky poem.
>Unknown
This was a reference to Mumei herself
>gest
"Ghost" and "gone"
>Kris blade
Reference to Anya, I was planning on writing a story where Mumei uses Anya to split 3 mountains, but I just integrated in the poem for retroactive reference.
>ot
I'm not sure where I got that, Its probably an onomatopeia for hitting
>belk
from belka of Ace combat, meaning is "destroy"
The jabberwock is supposed to be Animal.
Also, I'm just going to cut the Panjandrum, I can't really use it for anything.
>>21702808
This is nice, I really enjoy nonsense literature, althoug it's rather early for futurism. I'll see how I can use it.

>>21724473
It's probably one of the best unity threads we have for a while, definitely better than the constant warzones in the catalog.

>>21724473
wait the fuck are mozzies?

>>21724725
This thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc6qdwQaih0

>>21724853
From Aussie slang mosquito, name used for antis. by /nasa/

Tfw our love for writefagging and lore autism is a better unifier glue for fixing our tribalist treatment of vtubers

>>21724663
Ahh okay I get it now. Lore in poetry form should be fun so I look forward to other ones that are not nonsense poems.
Also >Belk
kek.

>>21724663
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her dinamoyu altıma almak için çıldırıyorum!
tükrüklü dilim bakır telleri yalıyor,
damarlarımda kovalıyor oto-direzinler lokomotifleri!

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ve ben ancak bahtiyar olacağım
karnıma bir türbin oturtup
kuyruğuma çift uskuru taktığım gün!

TRRUMMM!! TRUUUMM! TRUUUMM!!
TRRAAK TIKI TAK!
MAKINALASMAK ISTIYORUM!

>>21725489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A2z%C4%B1m_Hikmet
Well that was an interesting read. So much to learn in so little time.

I guess now would be a good time to discuss celestial bodies. What other planets and moons in the solar system exists? How are the stars looking compared to Earth. Do we have a Polaris (north star) to gauge sea travel with? /nasa/ wants to make an observatory that studies space.

>>21730799
for the purpose of ease, we can assume a moon similar to earth, and a main sequence star, of which its thermal output would decide the revolution time of VT, which could in turn change up the calendar, if you're up for the challenge, otherwise just an identical sun. anything else i don't know

>>21731000
What's your thoughts about having a second earth planet twin orbiting with this planet?

>>21733306
that's bound to fuck with gravity and sea currents

>>21733735
So only one earth planet in this system then. Because earth planets can only exist in an exact distance away from the sun.

>>21733306
i do not fuck with binary orbits, especially not planetary, since not even scientists know how that shit would work (even if we had direct evidence to prove it ever has)

>>21733869
No that's not quite right, you're referring to the goldilocks zone aren't you? I'm not too knowledgable on it but depending on the atmospheric makeup of the planet the distance from the zone it needs to be would also vary.

>>21734013
Given our planet is identical to Earth. Its going to have identical rotation, orbit, and moon. Now the question is how the other planets in orbit work? Would those planets be identical to the Solar System or have slightly different orbits and sizes?

>>21733869
Not necessarily, depending on our star the goldilocks zone can be big enough to accommodate more than one planet. Do we need a second Vitia in the solar system though?

>>21733306
Most probably a bad idea because it means the two planets will most likely be tidally locked to each other, so either of the below will likely happen:
>The planet's day is significantly longer than 24 hours, or
>A good chunk of the planet's surface will be in the other planet's shadow
The scenario's interesting from a theory-crafting standpoint, but definitely not something you want if you want the planetary environment to be remotely Earth-like.
The closest you can get two habitable planets around the star is probably some kind of horseshoe orbit configuration, but in that case the two planets are far enough from each other that it won't really matter.

raises hand
it's establish we have canon extraterrestrials and /moon/ has moon people
I suggest the moon is alive with seas and living creatures
but with the size and gravity similar to our moon

>>21734950
I don't know if that could work given the moon is always facing one way to Earth.

>>21734950
The Moon is too small (light, rather) to hold an atmosphere long enough for life to evolve, though. Common estimation seems to put the figure at a few to a dozen millennia without constant material injection into the atmosphere.

>>21734950
Rabbits on the moon!
if not a living planet then It'd probably be a small city with low population in some zone of the moon. a small military base that was cut off from contact from their HQ or something like that.
Right now i'm thinking we could modify Touhou's moon thing.

There could be dome cities on the moon. They won't be made out of glass. They'll be made from panels of metal to keep the atmosphere inside.

>>21735123
Could it plausibly work with underground cities? They'd dill have to be sealed like >>21735573 said I guess so not sure how much difference it would make.

>>21735685
You're basically asking if spacefaring people (ignoring the question of where they're from) can build space settlements, in which case the answer is yes, since that's kind of what /nasa/ was doing before their crash.

>>21735685
Moon's crust is pretty thin. So if you dig tunnels then they won't be very deep.

Or
Space vtuber vtubium (Sana, Moona, Iofi, Lumi, Moonjelly) keeps the moon charged
The moon can still produce enough magnetic field and tectonic ativity to maintain its gaian properties

>>21735921
The moon will have to rotate then. Which is not impossible. But keep in mind if the moon does get an atmosphere then it will affect tides and currents on earth.

>>21735921
Well, if the moon want to keep an atmosphere, it would have to need the gravity to bind it, which will push the system closer towards a double planet system and runs into the issues listed in >>21734244

>>21736179
Could you surround the moon with glass then pump it full with atmospheric air, enough to reach 1atm within the limited space? It'd probably get pretty hot pretty quickly I'd guess

>>21736700
Sure, if you can keep the glass sphere from crashing into the moon.

>>21736858
Its still not a good idea because asteroids can bonk the glass sphere and shatter it, which is bad news for everyone below. Metal dome cities are your best bet for a moon settlement.

>>21737061
But Anoooooon, I wanna see spaaaaace

>>21737103
Just put on a space suit and walk outside. Implying /moon/ needs suits to breathe in space. They might be able to breathe in space. I don't keep up with /moon/ except when Moona bullies Ollie with her boobs.

>>21737103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKMS62GrTI

>>21737545
The main problem would've been pressure, then breathability. You could potentially grow plants to fix oxygen levels but not enough pressure is deadly.
>>21737651
Nostalgia. Loved that little guy
>>21736858
Would the equivalent of a Dyson sphere work?
Enclose the entirety of the moon in a mix of glass and metal panels a few tens of meters from the ground. The side facing Vitia doesn't need many panels since less asteroids would hit it (I assume), so glass panels with shutters can be installed, while the farside can be mostly metal panels, with maybe some glass panels, atmospherically isolated from below in case they break, for viewing purposes. There'd also have to be an anchor point in the form of a space elevator to reach an external landing/takeoff pad, I suppose.
My only worry would be blocking the moon view from Vitia. Maybe the shutters can open following the calculated visibility from the planet, to maintain the illusion

>>21738778
I still think dome colonies will be enough for the moon people. They're constantly mining the moon for more vitubium to build larger space domes. With a powerful enough telescope you can see the dome cities on the moon. /nasa/ considered visiting the moon first before making contact with the planet. However fate had different plans for us.

>>21737061
I think a transparent dome is very plausible, and might even be preferable from a hard scifi standpoint:
You can make structurally sound dome using a icosahedron structure. The advantage is that if one of the panels is damaged, it is easy to replace, where a solid metal dome would be more expensive and may require welding.
Another is that the moon would be very poor in heavy metals, while quartz-glass could easily be made with regolite. With some plastic, layered plastic/glass composites could be made, aka bulletproof glass.

>>21742515
why not just live in ancient lava tubes?

>>21742621
That's assuming the settlers wouldn't want to live underground, like blind moles. From a practical standpoint an underground settlement of some sort is more logical, as the soil provides natural, cheap shielding from both radiation and meteorites. But the aesthetics of that are less idyllic.

i'm working on a more detailed picture of silvanus now, clocktower has been nerfed to the middle of the city

>>21742515
So what happens when a panel breaks? Does the glass panel just shoot out of the dome with air-pressure? And how do you recover lost atmosphere when a panel does collapse?

>>21742621
Tubes are for trains.

>>21742515
Isn't the moon, like, constantly being pulverized with meteors? How would a dome even work?
Come to think of it, why do we need to give a shit about realism in an 1800s-era fantasy setting, anyway? The fact that people live on the moon at all is already suspending disbelief pretty damn far.

This proposal came to me after I made dinner. Vitubium/chuubanite can chemically mix with glass to produce an elastic hard glass that's almost like steel. However the exact formula of this Vitubium glass is only known by the settlers on the moon. It can only be produced by moon quartz. Thoughts?.

>>21743384
yeah, but we're trying to make people living on the moon make sense, the world is still bound by rules after all.

>>21742996
Yeah, the panel will break into pieces and be pushed out by the flowing air. The pumping system should engineered be able to handle replacing the atmosphere while the dome is leaking out of a few panels, which is plausible. Then, a quick-response team of either human or automated entities should move over to the panel and basically seal it up with a tarp until a proper repair is conducted.
Recovering the atmosphere is not needed, there's a ton of oxygen on the moon in chemical compounds. Plus, a leak out of a few panels for a few minutes would not affect the air supply of a huge dome too much.
>>21743384
Not like constantly. There are lots of micrometeorites, but those would be small enough to simply be absorbed by the hardened glass, bigger meteroids are much rarer. And I mean, making things make sense instead of just handwaving stuff away is what makes all this fun!
>>21743416
I think that's neat if we want the dome material to make use of chuubanite, but from an engineering standpoint, locally sourced and fabricated bulletproof glass would have the properties required.
I read a paper about proposals for this shit a while back, lemme see if I can pull it up.

>>21655142
>>21655862
Yeah--it's /cylg/ now, but I am literally the only one actually contributing from that general to this thread, and the guys who make the OPs in the first place are all fine with me doing this autistic passion project.

I've been doing lore from the beginning and everything, I see nobody else stepping up.

So yeah, I am taking control of the general. If Lumi/Yuri discussion moves elsewhere, then I pivot a bit further.

Have a military uniform.

>>21706358
Think Greece in terms of mean temperature and season length, but the whole country receives an average annual rainfall from 90 to 140 cm in the southwest and 75cm to 125cm in the north. We're basically larping as Age of Miracles!Byzantium with a slight bit of magitech, so a less depleted Balkan clime with tacked-on-bits from elsewhere is the general idea.

The country's most fertile lands resemble SW Anatolia, prime wine and garden vegetable growing country, bountiful coastal seas. The southern coast has been extensively carved into rice paddies; a mass initiative took place to improve the diets of the peasantry by planting a thick wall of mangrove forest to protect these brackish fields. In this way, fish and shellfish will wander into the paddies and feed farmers; much like how Hawaiian rice and shrimp farmers may occasionally taken in a fully-grown trevally, our farmers will as well. Excess shore catch is sold off.

Snowfall is rare outside the most northwest bits of the country, and we just do not have seasonal glacier lakes.

>>21743600
Bullet proof glass is also made with plastic polymers I think. Anyway the moon is made from similar stuff to earth. Which means it has vitubium. So the vitubium glass can be used for the panels. They can even be energized to make a kinetic shield that bounces off small meteors. Keep in mind this tech only exists on the moon. Which is the most technologically advanced civilization not on earth.

>>21743453
Do they have to be the same boring-ass rules that every physics professor knows?
We got meatheads using their fetish voodoo powers to summon flesh tentacles and we got squirrel niggas growing trees out of gemstones, and somehow breathable air is where we draw the line?
>>21743600
Then how about thinking outside of the established sci-fi templates of yore? I was emphasizing the 'fantasy' part. Why does no one ever try to create a methodology for fantasy stuff and just refer to it as "handwaving"?
Here's some ideas: Can anyone go to the moon or can only the moon people live there? Are they adapted to living in space like fucking Xenomorphs? Are they all secretly robot/golem people dumped from a parallel universe? Could the 'moon' just be "Vitia" from an alternate reality, showing above us through a crack in space-time? Who's to say "Oxygen" even needs to exist in the state we're all familiar with? Perhaps the Chuubanite on the moon naturally manufactures a substitute for air that lingers in a vacuum?

>>21744136
You're going to have to ask /moon/ for that lore if they have a rep. I'm just trying to come up with ideas on how to make moon-living a thing.

>>21744136
>Why does no one ever try to create a methodology for fantasy stuff
It's a valid worldbuilding approach. We do have a framework for how chuubanite works and functions that has been roughly adhered to so far. https://rentry.org/buk5e
And I mean, I think those are fine ideas. We should probably keep oxygen cuz a lot of threads are definitely relying on real chemistry for some of their lore, but if the mooners just don't need air they don't need a dome. They'd only have a dome if they wanted to have a dome.

>>21537815
The central plaza in /nasa/ Station is jokingly named "Universe Center". The Universe Center contains the hub of all monorail lines to other parts of /nasa/. In the middle of the plaza there is a working holographic orbital model of the Sol System. There the model accurately portrays the orbit of all of the planets, moons, and asteroid belt in real time. The model is also used as a calendar and an atomic clock to accurately gage the time from Terra (earth). At the center of the model is a physical depiction of the yellow sun Sol with a statue of Sana sitting on top. This is to accurately model Sana's actual size to the rest of the solar system.

As for facilities around the plaza there is a café with carry out service where Sanalites can grab their meal and coffee. Next to the café is a bakery where bread is always baked fresh. While the café itself is small the plaza has plenty of sit down benches to eat from. Each bench also has a dock where Sanalites can dock their tablet computers to charge and play games with via LAN connection. The Universe Center has a road that leads to the central tower where all the government work is done. Along with the central tower there is /nasa/ station archives that serve as a public library. The archives have both physical books and digital books for reading. Though you cannot check out physical books without special permission, digital books are free to view so long as you have an account. To download a book you have to spend fuel credits for data cost.

Universe Center also serves as a public square to host public events and gatherings. If there's a holiday coming up then the Universe Center will update its holograph decorations accordingly. Universe Center is covered by a glass dome that protects the center from climate's rainfall. So there's no fear of a rainy day. That said there are leaks in the dome caused by the crash. So it is still advised to carry an umbrella in Universe Center for now. There are plans to open novelty gift stores when visitors are allowed inside the station.

>>21725196
>spoiler
I'm really tempted to make all the lore poems nonsense literature now.

I really should look into drawing floor plans for /nasa/ station unfolded.

if the moon doesnt work you could always pull out of gundam and do space colonies

>>21749411
Before the crash /nasa/ was a huge space colony. 2/3rds of our space was used in factories to make space drones and shuttles. This was before unfolding the station. Its a shame that so much was lost. Many Sanalites are still depressed that they lost their careers when the factory exploded. They're finding new ways to apply their talents. However things will never be the same for any of us.

>>21750510
are sanalites going to refuse to hand over their technology for fear of interrupting natural progress or was that line crossed?

>>21751872
Technology is different. You would not hand your potential enemies technology to make nuclear bombs for example. We're having /infinity/ make cogs for a gearbox but /nasa/ is going to assemble them. /nasa/ is also making the rest of the stainless steel tools parts for the mixing bowls and blenders for the bakery. /nasa/ still has to assemble the parts into machines. Operating the machines is easy. Not sure how much this crossed the Grand Directive. And there are Sanalites upset at our decision to provide capital to a bakery on foreign land.

>>21723297
Orthodoxronies...

Greetings from /pyon/. I haven't been here in about a week so thought I would pop in. Are you guys waiting on us for anything at the moment?

>>21753046
Are you still isolationist and xenophobic to Holo countries?

>>21753378
I think so, but I wanna say we could probably get along with Tree rat and her denizens.

>>21738778
Well, Dyson sphere actually has the same problem, just on a much larger scale. A solid structure of that magnitude is very hard to maintain, as all kinds of forces (gravity from other astronomical bodies) will keep tugging the sphere out of position and crash it into the body it is surrounding unless the force is compensated. In the case of the moon sphere, it is slightly more feasible in that there are solid grounds on its surface, so you just have to build numerous pillars to keep the sphere in place.
Of course, it'll be the largest manmade structure by several magnitude, and maintenance will be hell, so even the people living under it will probably ask whether it's worth it just to walk around without a suit on. It would probably be easier for them to have domes on their cities instead, which significantly reduces the amount of material and effort to maintain. In fact, it might be better to just not bother with domes and instead figure out how to replenish the leaking atmosphere from either captured asteroids (which is likely what we'll use IRL if we ever terraform the moon) or generate oxygen from the lunar regolith (ESA has been working on that).
That said, I think the bigger question is: do we even want the moon to be inhabited? I know /moon/ and maybe /pagi/ is themed around it, but the issue's that if we indeed put them on the moon, they would be isolated from the rest of the world, which doesn't seem to be very meaningful as a collaborative project.

>>21753378
also /pyon/, >>21753724 is right, even though I like to break containment posting here, we really don't go anywhere else, visitors are usually fine like when /rose/ congratulated us on getting an island, just don't overstay your welcome.

>>21753724
im the main tree rrat here. I actually like kiki a lot and started watching her since that castlevania stream. shes cool.

>>21753880
Reminiscent maybe of the arrival of Europe in Feudal Japan, xenophobic to the west, but willing to be on good relations and trade and barter with a few specific outsiders. At least, I think that is how things went down.

>>21753724
>>21753880
Well if you ever wind up in /who/ or /nasa/ waters somehow then Sanalites will share bread with you. We won't push trade deals on nations that don't want it. Kiki is very cute. And I wish her the best. Also Sana is streaming again. So you can no longer say she never streams.

>>21754012
got another one boys

>>21754214
pretty much /risu/ and /pyon/ pulling a netherlands and japan basically

I love that literally everyone loves Risuners. Perhaps the one good thing infinity has contributed was bringing them here.

>>21753046
The map got updated with your island. Is this size/placement to your liking?

>>21735921
>Space vtuber vtubium (Sana, Moona, Iofi, Lumi, Moonjelly)
You're missing a pink princess there

>>21754468
Personally I'm a fan, I know we all collectively wanted small, and liked that placement too.

>>21743658
>Lumi/Yuri situation
I think the issue's that countries in this world ultimately represent the threads. It's true that you can have some leeway in that (especially if no one else from the thread is present/object to it), but I would say the population at large would have to somewhat resemble the thread's own. As such, while it's fine that the monarch (which I assume is you in this case) declares Lumi and Yuri to be heresy, unless the thread has decided to no longer house their discussion (which doesn't seem to be the case), I don't think you'll really be able to root out or even suppress their followers ICly.

As for the climate, I'll see what I can do, but a mostly Mediterranean climate might not be possible given /cylg/'s location - the closest I can meet that environment would be some kind of tropical savannah climate. Summer will be similarly hot (although also wet), while winter will be 5~10 degrees higher than that of Athens. (rainfall will be similar, or slightly above the range you've suggested, although be noted that it's much higher than Athens, and also has a wet summer rather than winter).
As for snowfall, /cylg/ probably won't have that anywhere due to its low latitude and altitude. Mangrove forest and rice paddies should work well, but you'll need tropical grapes for your wine. That said, they do exist IRL, and people do use them to make wine, although they're not as famous as the ones from the Mediterranean (then again, what we consider "high culture" also comes from there, so there is probably at least some level of bias in what we deem "fine wine").
I hope that works for you. If you have something specific you really want in the end result, we can discuss how to make that happen.

Good morning.

>>21565591
This is super interesting and I really like it, dude.

>>21743658
>the guys who make the OPs in the first place are all fine with me doing this autistic passion project.
>I've been doing lore from the beginning and everything, I see nobody else stepping up.
>So yeah, I am taking control of the general.
I'm not sure thats cool, dude. You can't just change the general completely because the vtubers you care about are going independent, even if no one else is around. Is the thread itself changing ? If so I think thats fine because the nations are meant to be representatives of the threads we have but if the thread itself isn't changing then you might need to get a new thread. I'm not sure why you're trying to invoke OP, they haven't commented on this decision of yours and even if they had they're not in charge they're just organizing things

here's a showcase of the scripts i've made so far. there are two you won't recognize, i'm not finished with them (i wont be finished with inanese for a bit of time since it has over 60 sounds).

>>21754782
Would /infinity/ be interested in /nasa/'s rations? It seems space rations are becoming our main export to west Hololive. Maybe peanut butter too, but /meat/'s peanuts are closer and cheaper.

>>21754971
Oooh, sure! Being naval but not too great for varied agriculture, our sailors might be prone to scurvy. If your rations offer a balanced diet, we'd love that.

>>21755089
We got a powdered fruit mix that has a bunch of vitamin C and a variety of minerals to keep you hydrated. All you need to do is add it to fresh drinking water. See our response to /morig/ about more ration details. We just have to mine shale if we want more packaging.

>>21755305
In that case we'd be very interested. Would you want one of our resources in exchange or would currentcy suffice?

>>21755401
We'll accept money. /nasa/ is going to need money to import aluminum, zinc, and nickle ore. /nasa/ has pleanty of coal and iron underground. We're going to process coal into coke for steel making.

>>21754684 (Me)
What I worked out. The majority of land in /cylg/ would be tropical savannah climate (Aw), with a significant tropical monsoon climate (Am) in the south. This should be pretty similar to the annual rainfall mentioned in >>21743658. The significant rainfall in Am should allow ample rice growth, while the longer dry season in Aw should make it fit for growing grapes for wine. Mangrove forests should be viable along the entire western coast.
The savannah will get increasingly dryas you approach the /voms/ border due to the rain shadow cast by the /voms/-/tsun/ highland, until it becomes fully hot desert soon after crossing the border. The island north of mainland will also be pretty dry most of the time, similar to Socotra.
Before civilisation, most of the land will probably be some kind of tropical forest, with the south being mostly evergreen while the north being seasonal. From what you've described, though, most of the forest outside Af is likely already gone due to needs for agriculture, although the rainforest can still provide a decent source of tropical hardwood if there is sufficient effort in replanting around the central region.

bump

>>21754901
Stop! I cant kneel any lower!

>>21754901
I... I kneel...

>>21755739
/morig/ has a fair amount of nickel, but relatively small amounts of iron, our industry will probably soon outgrow our local iron production. Would you be interested in trading some of your iron for our nickel? It'll be a must when you want to make some space-age superalloys like inconel.

>>21754901
Holy shit that's cool anon.

>>21763826
They can get it more easily and cheaper from /who/.

>>21763992
Ah, fair enough. It is quite a long trip.

>>21764494
Sourcing it from the eastern holo continent might work for /morig/ too, especially for already friendly neighbours like /kfp/

>>21764812
That's true, /kfp/ is right on the plate boundary, so they might be rich in IOCG deposits. Does the Kaiserreich have some kind of established resources list?

>>21765268
Don't think so. I think only /meat/ and /morig/ has one so far. (another commonality... picrel)

>>21765501
Oh god, Flesh&Bone continues their entanglement.

Doko

>>21768100
New bread will be up once this thread's about to be archived

New bread: >>21768461