/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining.

>>21674317
This isn't Elden Ring and doesn't have an Elden Ring buff, it's debuffed because literally no one knew about it until 1 minute before it started. The 10k that showed up is Ame's core fanbase who will watch everything she streams.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>86,420: Aqua (Hololive)
>40,046: Flare (Hololive)
>39,276: Gura (Hololive)
>30,411: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,482: AZKi (Hololive)
>26,253: Toya (Nijisanji)
>25,708: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,114: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,650: Sumire (VSPO)
>20,313: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,656: Suisei (Hololive)
>17,524: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,255: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,788: Ame (Hololive)
>14,497: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,592: Zeta (Hololive)
>13,199: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,124: Aruse Inu (Neo Porte)
>12,840: Nagao Kei (Nijisanji)
>12,234: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,927: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,829: Korone (Hololive)
>10,638: Towa (Hololive)
>10,467: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,388: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,263: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,040: Calli (Hololive)
>10,009: Ina (Hololive)

>The smallest minority of people even aware Ame is streaming on twitch
>Abrupt link on twitter a minute before streaming
>Already more viewers than most of her streams

dont reply to the schizo
>spamming/flooding

I just had an epiphany that no matter how much I hate HoloEN, they can never go away with how Cover operates.
I'm just accepting that fact now

can't wait for the whole thread comparing a debut stream to other random twitch streams ignoring the assured fall in views in the next months

>>21674512
highest, actual, vtuber stream

>>21674474
too late try agqain. the goalposts have already been moved
>>21674463

>20 min stream
why is she like this

>>21674535
Spread the revelation to the rest of your village sea-chan.

>>21674535
No way anon, were you actually retarded this whole time? How did you figure out the captcha?

wait did she just end lol

>>21674481
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom

> PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Okayu, Aqua

>Ame streams usually 5k if she goes full debuff
>Suddenly 10k on Twitch even when going full debuff
Can't be denied that Myth are culled by 50% of their actual numbers anymore, thanks Twitch.

she didn't even set a category so no one could even find her stream unless they have a direct link or are already subscribed

Didn’t even play a game and just read her intro for 20 minutes. I guess in they context 9k is both not bad and maddening as hell. Why can HoloEN never have their shit together for streams? That was rhetorical btw

Imagine gura twitch debut

Gonna be interesting watching hee karaoke. There

>Ame didn't even hit 10K in her official Twitch debut.

Reclining...

>>21674587
Why do these vtuber hate fuckers using vtuber tags?

Interesting happenings:
>>21671738
Hololive continues to set up more twitch accounts
>>21667757
Chart anon delivers the data (median ccv)
>>21664395
Indies

Current streams:
>Akirose Cyberpunk
https://youtu.be/JU7WEBqkAL8
>Elira AI Insomnium Files (peaked around 3.5k)
https://youtu.be/zp_NCtaX2rE
>Finana Dream House (not gachashit for once)
https://youtu.be/uOLjp560K2M
>Ame twitch https://www.twitch.tv/watsonamelia_hololiveen
>Choco has been streaming for 20 hours
https://youtu.be/Gk-swlED2jQ
>Noctyx collab
https://youtu.be/L75cNLrFLOM
>Some 774s are streaming. Komori Met at ~5k
>Patra Elden ring 3k
>Pippa at peaking around 500 ccv with <30k subs?

>>21674587
Ironmouse is the only other vtuber streaming and she's just fucking around after canceling a game, not exactly hard.

Is she doing the karaoke on her youtube channel, not on Twitch?
Honestly I've watched Ame regularly for over a year now and her the way her mind works sometimes is still mysterious to me.

>>21674739
reclining from what nigga this was a debut

>>21674740
To shit up the tag.

>>21674770
On Twitch.

443 subs gifted to Ame on Twitch today so far. Not bad.
Also good to see the karaoke rrat slayed.

>>21674587
It’s just hilarious. It’s nothing short of hilarious. Her youtube has over a million subscribers with people having notifications on to alert when she’s about to stream and an established system already in place, yet 1 scuffed ass start to a twitch stream with just one link on twitter got her more viewers than she gets now in months. It’s just so retarded

>>21674626
She’s going to do a karaoke in 20 mins on it

>3d debut stream is a debuff
that's some niji level cope

>nooo Ame is reclining only 10k on twitch
>ignoring that she didn't get any Twitch or Youtube tourists at all and it was entirely her core fanbase watching
Get some context you niggers, this was the equivalent of a superchat reading stream and she already broke 10k

>"m-muh viewerbug"
>only 9k on twitch with debut buff
Lol

>>21674535
Don't call random thoughts your brain farts epiphanies

>>21674759
She is doing reaction content. Gaming streams on twitch are a debuff

HoloEN is over.

I think this pretty much proves that all that "cull" hearsay is just that, hearsay.

Cullfags got destroyed today.

so many excuses

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY*

>14462: Zeta (Hololive ID)
>5070: Zeta (Hololive ID)
>2496: Lumi (MAHA5)
>2253: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>1996: Anya (Hololive ID)
>1600: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>1231: Reine (Hololive ID)
>933: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>902: Riksa (Nijisanji ID)
>858: Mythia (Indie)
>794: Reine (Hololive ID)
>499: Zen (MAHA5)
>342: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>254: Miyu (Nijisanji ID)

>>21674430
hey man

>>21674742
>Gaou is horny for his other daughters too
Can this man be stopped? Were we too late?

>>21674759
theres 3 other vtubers there

Actual question, why does it look like Ame is afraid of numberfags? she always tries to debuff herself so people can never say that she is going all out

>MUH CULL
bullshit already obliterated

what's next in the holoEN cope list?

>>21674834
>3d debut
I would say watch streams but it take me a while to find her channel to be honest

>>21674862
Find me another recent stream where Ame gets 9k for an unadvertised zatsudan no one knew was going to happen until literally a minute before she streamed

>Ame says she's going to ignore the raid feature because she doesn't understand it and it's scary
>twitchniggers spam her chat telling her to raid ironmouse
>Ame ends stream

It's impossible to know what the fuck their twitch audience would be without them actually announcing it + several streams to get people used to it.

So basically Ame will never provide us with the answer

Jezas the schizo is just spamming on cooldown now

*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY*

>3,786: Linglan Lily (Cloud Horizon)
>2,661: Mochi Komame (indie)
>2,251: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>829: Padko (Square Live)
>824: Annin Miru (indie)
>651: Healing Luka (indie)
>322: Loco Lost (indie)
>313: Chilla Behemes (Square Live)
>249: Ruroro (indie)
>242: Chilla Behemes (Square Live)
>231: Aoi Hinamori (KAHO-FAMI)

>>21674862
Yeah the cull is totally made up, except for that time back in January where JP was finally hit hard.
It was real then.

>>21674953
Nigger you are not making any sense. The 2020 cull is literally proven to be true, even admitted by fucking youtube.

>>21674964
Ame is fucking based as usual, why the hell would you raid your competition? This is business not a 4th grade field day competition

>>21674740
>TO TROLL DEM WEEBS AND ASMR COOMERS!!!

I guess we found our loop for the day

>>21674862
It proved literally nothing other than Ame being an idiot, but we already knew that.

>>21674975
>many channels will never reach their debut numbers
>WAHH THE DEBUT IS A DEBUFF WAIT FOR REAL NUMBERS
it's on her schedule btw

the amount of people trying to find excuses is fucking embarassing

>>21675071
I am not talking about the 2020 cull you retard
the 2020 cull was real, evident (just like the temporary 2021-2022 CCVID) and affected everyone not only holoEN

the current holoEN cope is that holoEN members are getting culled while holoJP are not and that was proven wrong today

>>21674862
holoenkeks were viewbotting aka multiple browsers till Susan fixed it

any gold contender for today ? or hal is guaranteed ?

Repostan from previous thread and because I have a feeling this will annoy the schizo. Based on chartanons March data
>Excluding the main Hololive channel (which I'll be doing for the rest of my observations), The top 30 which I would consider as high tier is composed of 20 Holos, 9 Nijis, and Hal.
>The top 10 is composed of 9 Holos and Kuzuha with #10 being Mio at 13004
>The "Lowest" High tier would be Toko who is ranked #30 with a median of 9174. So in general, I'd say that any chuuba who has a median >9000 has an argument of being called a high tier for march
>For mid tiers, there are 49 non-holos ranked from #31-#100. The breakdown is Nijisanji:29, Hololive:22, VSPO:6, Neo-Porte:5, Indie:5 Sleep Monster/774/NoriPro:1
>Lui who is ranked #50 (median: 6755) would be the breaking point of the high mid tier
>The lowest ranked midtier would be NijiEN's Selen who is ranked #100 with a median score of 3543. So in general any chuubas above >3500 but less than <9000 can be considered mid tier
>Low tier starts with Hakase Fuyuki who is ranked #101 with a median of 3374.
>The lowest ranked "Low tier" (#200) would be Rurun Rururica of .Live with a median of 1086
>Which means that anyone with a median <3500 but >1000 is low tier.
So with all that info the current tiers for the past month would be:
>Superstar tier:>13k CCV
>High tier:>9k CCV
>(High) Mid Tier:>6700 but <9K CCV
>(Low) Mid Tier: >3500 but <6700 CCV
>Low tier:<3500
>Small start up tier:<1k but >160 CCV
>2view tier:<160

spamschizo, you are mentally ill

>ame already had a twitch account for months
>her followers were already aware of her twitch account for months
>twitch actually notifies you properly when a streamer you followed starts a stream compared to youtube's scuffed notifications
>ame had this in her schedule for days
>anyone who follows her twitter will get a notification to the tweet that has her channel link
Was it really that unknown to hololive fans?

>>21675149
>actually pretending this is a "debut"
Fuck off retard

>>21674919
They are irrelevant. Only Vshoujo + Shylily, Snuffy, and Saruei matter on twitch. No one else can even crack 4k normally.

>>21674964
>Ame says she's going to ignore the raid feature because she doesn't understand it and it's scary
what a fucking liar

>>21675149
Yeah but without a frame only those that see it on twitter would know. Could have easily advertised it yesterday on the collab. Moving people from one platform to another isnt an easy task.

feels like Gura's twitch channel is set for the charity auction.

Have any EN or JP VTubers done Minecraft Manhunt yet? Seems like something that would get good numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmp1ptmpDg

>>21675202
Oh yeah, this stream she never talked about except for a mention on her schedule (with her autistic obfuscated timezones) and a single, textless tweet 1 minute before it started is definitive proof that youtube CCV is 100% accurate

>>21674959
it's an event stream you moron
it's ame's twitch debut, it's not a regular zatsudan

get fucked

>>21675053
ccvid was fucking real and affected everybody, both jp and en, but that was fixed january 11th
fuck off with your bullshit

>>21674740
They're "meta" bitches, chasing every trend possible to pass the time and find the next big thing.
they have like 20 random tags sometimes

Yes, you can report them.
No, twitch probably won't do anything.

>>21675202
>I am not talking about the 2020 cull you retard
Employ logic then. You can't say twitch numbers are the same as youtube numbers and ignore the 2020 cull. It would simply not make sense. In no way did anything happen today in any way relate to the disproving holojp/holoEN cull ratios

>>21675268
it's literally listed on her schedule from days ago as a debut though?
I'm just using her wording

>>21675255
She had 17k follower before the stream starrt. She only confirmed a stream 5 days ago.

>>21675298
>copying dreamsmp
disgusting

>>21674587
Has anyone raided yet? I wanna see what happens when someone raids.

>>21675202
No one ever said holoJP weren't culled, they were just culled to a lesser extent compared to holoEN you retard

>>21675255
I mean, the fanbase spends most of their time in yt, to get the notification you have to be on twitch at that time

So what's Cover's plan for Twitch now that many Hololive members are using it?
Watchalong? Nah, it's too simple.
Gaming? Possible.
Twitch exclusive concerts to test out a potential tour in the US? Yes please.

>>21675255
>17k followers before stream
>Just 23k followers now
Would you like to compare that to the 1.6M subscribers on Youtube, anon?

all these disgusting holoen fags coping with all their excuses
it's honestly depressing to see

>>21674951
You're mistaking indifference for fear. Ame was poor her whole life, she used to dumpster dive, steal WiFi, etc. Since joining Cover she has a salary + members + merch + SC + sponsorships and shit. So "growing" is not really on her mind, she just wants to have fun and do new things, doesn't matter if they do good or bad in numbers, her podcast and news show did amazing in numbers but she dropped them because she got bored. Meanwhile she keeps playing Oblivion at 1 am for 2k people. Because those 2k people are the ones that practically pay for everything she does, and she knows that.

With that said, its not like she's just sitting in her ass playing vidya, she's dropped shit out of nowhere that also did amazing in numbers like her Christmas Song or the Smol Adventures animation, she just doesn't announce any new projects because she doesn't want to break the expectations of her fans.

Choco sen 7.5k core keeper holly hell! She mogging everybody!

>>21675362
Except Dream didn't invent it and Dream's version is scripted.

>>21675409
To leech off the free Amazon Prime money

>>21675424
I don't know, seems more like to me that the vast majority of her 1.6M Youtube subs are tourist subs who don't actually watch her frequently in that case.

>>21674855
Ironmouse and VShojo raids coming soon. Get ready for HoloEN to be obliged to reciprocate.

It's gonna be real funny when Twitchlets go into the vtuber category only to find a wall of Hololive talents. I wonder if indies will cry about it

20k. they keep inclining

>>21675202
You're such a fucking retard. Irregular streams on twitch prove nothing. Even HoloJP who stream more often, get LESS viewers on twitch. This is despite us KNOWING twitch CCV is not culled like youtube past 2020.

The simple conclusion is that without being able to rely on their youtube subs, their entire audience is far from transferring over to a twitch stream. But you'd rather ignore any such context because its easier for you to use it as shitposting.

>>21675255
Yes you cretin, most people know a stream is happening via it apeparing on youtube, not twitter or schedules.

>>21675409
probably preparing to jump ship since competition on YT is getting too fierce and with Niji and VSPO inclining and Neo-Porte also entering the picture things may not look good for them in the future

Twitch from the other side has only Vshojo and we know that they are just talentless whores so I guess they think there is less competition on Twitch

>>21675551
>Men on top wamenn on the bottom
Good

so this is like seahours, but even worse

>>21675558
>hololive fans
I don't think you can really call them fans if they don't keep up with the talents' twitter or schedules, they're just casual viewers who are just as likely to watch something else at random

>>21675551
20-21K during NA hours
holy incline

>>21675409
Botan literally spelled it out already.
Cover wants Valorant/MOBAs/LoL on Twitch and not youtube.

>>21675241
I think the only other stream that will get 35k+ will be Miko Elden Ring, but yeah I don't think it will compete with Hal apex shit at all.

>>21675202
Holo JP is getting culled from 2020 too but whatever Youtube is filtering doesn't affect them as much because they have different demographics with different viewing habits..
Vox has a huge audience from Asia and said he had 28k watching when CCV said 25k.
That's only an 11% cull and he would have more western viewers than most JPs would.
Most JPs are probably sitting at 5-10% while the ENs are 35%-45%.

>>21675651
I accept your retardation as a concession that you aren't really debating anything, just shitposting.

>>21675588
HoloEN maybe but not HoloJP lmao

>>21674835
> this was the equivalent of a superchat reading stream

Now now anon, lets not go too far.

>>21674664
what the actual fuck?
I missed that she started her stream on Twitch and I bet half of her viewers did, too.
That means HoloEN's CCV is actually 4x higher than what's reported by Youtube.
Someone update the tally to show 60k CCV on Ame's meme stream.
It checks out because she got similar VOD viewes to other 60k CCV streams.

>>21675698
Stop being such a hypersensitive baby and maybe you'll learn some reading comprehension.

Did she say anything about what she's doing with the channel? Are they going to use the kamiko kana strategy of streaming once in a blue moon and just collecting a paycheck on these gift subs

Has any Holo ever gotten raided on Twitch yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RCNKHvxpE

I guess most are just pretending to be retarded
There will NEVER be a fair comparison unless 100% of her viewers that know in advance or from youtube notifications to her 1.6mill subs and any youtube algorithm tourists transfer across which will never happen

threads really were better with emotes

>>21675588
Yeah, Cover is getting decimated in viewerships and they lost a lot of money last month.
Riku is also getting smartee in promoting his livee and now they are inclining above Hololive members.

>>21675551
>6 streams
>huge collab
>females in the dumbster
>cant even beat fauna kirby
Even with an empty slot noctys is unable to capitalize on it.

>>21675649
It's your typical nijidogs. Who do you think are always the people to show ccv comparisons once a holo stream starts to make them look bad? It's literally the same shit here

>>21675760
She said her goal is to stream at least 5 times a year on twitch.

>>21675551
These fans really came out when it's a collab. Solo streams, not present

>>21675619
that's kinda hot

>>21675764
>just increasing the spam even more
No.

>>21675760
The only games they are allowed is minecraft, league and valorant at this point.

>>21675364
ame played ignorant to raIds and just ended the stream. she also probably already has the settings set to only allow raids form teammates

>>21675409
It's free money.

>>21675551
Yugo...

>>21675551
Don't forget that it's Sunday in Asia

>>21674868
>2496: Lumi (MAHA5)
Huh? Which stream is it? I'm subbed to Maha5 and I can't find it

>>21675275
this is called being loyal to hololive, watch Calli raiding conur any time soon.

>>21675409
hololive summer
and free prime subs

>>21675551
>yugo doing as bad as the other girls

>>21675649
Is sunday on asia

>>21675919
Hololive EN summer? So they are whores after all.

>>21675904
Ame has always struck me as a company gal, not really in words but definitely in deeds

>last samurais are going to move the goalposts again when Ame gets double the numbers on her karaoke in a bit because more people know she's started her Twitch account now

>>21675977
*It's Sunday in Asia.

>>21675919
I would actually kneel

>>21675919
if Hololive Summer gets back from the grave i'll fucking kneel to YAGOO

Gen5/Gen6/Council/Reine swimsuits AAAAAAAAAAA

>>21675551
>They can't even beat the second stream of Kirby from Fauna
What the hell is going on over there.

>>21675551
Not seeing any incline anon.

>>21676021
>implying these are hololive fans

>>21676021
People are also gonna hear her sing...so...

20 hours...
Choco go to sleep so you can wake up ready to find a man to procreate with

Jesas, what happened to him?

What the fuck is this? Twitch is really gamified these days I guess

>fucking aki has as much as some of the noctyx duds in a collab
The wine aunt really inclined

holy shit, we can start a fishing shop with the number of baits that are in this thread right now

So the rrat is true that HoloEN3 might use both Twitch and YT for their streams.

>>21676145
He's boring as fuck.

>>21676149
That has been around for at least... 2 years now.

>>21676149
It's mostly a gamer streaming website, of course.

>>21676133
NO
>>21676145
competition happened

>>21676215
Based

lol ame, why do you have the IRL tag on?

>>21676189
It's just samefagging, igonore them and all the replies.

>>21675551
Sunday buff...

>>21676235
>>21676246
Ah, I see. The last time I logged into my Twitch account was, uh, college probably. A long fucking time ago.

>>21676215
>HoloEN3
Literally who is asking for this?

>>21675409
If Youtube keeps culling their numbers, they can just move to Twitch and tell Youtube "I guess no one uses your platform."

>>21676215
Dual Streaming?

MOGGED

>>21676413
What's that?

https://youtu.be/YS0w1qChBbo
Kobo just started streaming, any prediction? It's 10 AM in indo at the moment so i predict she will have low numbers

>>21676443
ame's twitch mod
bubba is actually her bf. he runs the camera for the vr chat streams

Did the stream die?

>>21676471
I'd be shocked if she breaks 3k considering it's a fucking superchat reading

>>21676037
It wouldn't even be unusual content for Twitch

>>21676345
Did you get lost from /hlg/? Isn't it blasphemy for you fucks to leave /jp/?

>>21676471
3k max.It just a donation reading.

>>21676549
/hlg/ is reclining

>>21676512
Yeah it looked like it. It just got back online now

>>21676564
Anon... Kobo is already at 3k 7 minutes in

>>21675255
>this retard actually believes the twitch notification system doesn't break constantly

>>21676549
No? Did you forget to take your meds?

>>21676345
to this day I still think Cover was too slow on HoloENs expansion they put all of holoEN on Myths back for 10 months before IRyS as a 1 man support then another month til Council. Almost an entire year. HoloEN2 shouldve been more around May or June and an EN3 Feb/March this year. Granted June wouldve been awkward with Cocos death

>>21674742
Apparently I was wrong about Elira. I swear I saw 3k while the stream was live but it's 2.2k.

>>21676663
wdym I'm watching her right now at 2.8k

Niji en getting mog by a blue indog reading superchat now, you can't make this shit up.

>>21676704
>HoloEN2 shouldve been more around May or June
Anon did you forget what happened around June/July?

So, this is what they call reclining right?

>>21676704
I still imagine what the vtubing world would have looked like idlf Coco and Myrh were allowed to collab since at least January.

Queen of the Indog 3k

>>21676868
Holy recline, it hurts just seeing it

>ame didnt even tweet her karaoke
Im always amazed by how much antinumberfagging ame is.

>>21675311
Nijiniggers in full force today.

>>21675469
what a humble former hobo...

I don’t use Twitch what does this even mean? What does it accomplish?

>>21676704
Anon IRyS was rushed out the door to have some good press a few days after the Coco graduation

>>21676510
i was under the impression it was nullrefrepro since he built the camera system

>>21676868
All that history, all those views and moments, just fucking gone. Really the ultimate nuclear option for a talent like Rushia. What the fuck did she do

>>21676215
I would not be a surprise if this happen with homoEN

FYI, ame just started up her Twitch Karaoke out of nowhere, like, 30+ minutes earlier than she said she was going to do it.
AME WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?! YOU DIDN'T EVEN TWEET IT THIS TIME!

>>21676858
did you read the last part of my post?

>>21676989
Is prodbably their manager

>>21676983
It exists to make you sub.
That's it. Twitch 'game systems' for things like this have existed for two? years now.

>>21677029
Did you read my ass?

vsjokeks mogged today?

>>21677029
Graduation announced in early june, then july 1st stream
They knew about the graduation for at least 3 months, back in March/April at least, putting all other plans on hold

Remember fags

>>21677025
She didn't even need to stop streaming

>>21677025
I hate the debuff detective so fucking much

>>21676868
>>21677004
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/user/7926D484E782BB46_42d9e0
It says the videos are just privated, not deleted. Is this normal for when a VTuber from a big corpo gets fired, or did some other ones get their videos deleted instead?

>>21676900
Culls and CCVID etc bullshit aside, Cover royally fucked their EN branch so hard in so many ways. I feel like the slight push they're doing in recent time is to try and make up for their ultimate failure as a company in properly assisting them.

There could've been so many potential cross-branch collabs if they just let them collab with Coco. You could've had more telephone games, meme reviews, possible off collabs with Mori and just collabs in general. But that got axed, and then EN had to deal with management that could've provide them with shit. When your own talents get frustrated and start doing things themselves, that shows a lot of problems in staffing and its contributions. They just feel like they're in charge of just telling them when they got perms and that's it (I know they do more obviously, but there's nothing that stands out that they even do that helps their careers moving forward)

Ame decided to do no promotion, and replace playing a viewer participation game with what is arguably her worst content. For what purpose?

>>21676987
that doesnt change my feelings that I feel HoloENs expansion was fucking slow, opening auds for an EN2 over 5months after Myths explosive debut was such a slow move. Im not saying NijiEN tier expansion as they got 20 members in less than 10 months but more than 5 members after 10 months is also way too slow for a new branch in a company that emphasizes boxes itself away from most of the scene.

>>21675867
Wait. Twitch has different permissions? I've seen some nijis like Kanae streaming on twitch for Valo too.

>>21677025
ironmos mogged twice today? damn

>>21676868
oh shit it finally updated
it looks so sad
michelle gato you dumb bitch

>>21676983
Twitch is a gamer streaming website, that's why it has so many sub-categories and features for gamer use.

>>21676133
Sorry Abe not today

>>21677127
actual retard

>>21677221
Makes it easier to strike channels if they want.

>>21677291
Whenever you feel stupid, just need to remember that Michael Cat exist

>>21677198
That won't stop samefagging, so it's no use.

>>21676704
>>21677284
>to this day I still think Cover was too slow on HoloENs expansion
agreed

>>21677246
There was a perms issue with Choice Chamber. She said it was "Still in the oven"

Indog Gura 3.7k for a supachat reading. Can she reach 4k ?

>>21677232
It feels like most of the HoloEN girls think that management is useless (besides their personal managers). Kiara used her april fools stream to shit on Omega again.

So we can finally all agree that the EN girls are getting nerfed by what ever bullshit YouTube is doing.
Ame didnt even advertise this stream much, it was on a whole other platform but her ccv was higher than her average.

>>21677025
She might do the most unique content in Hololive, but that might have to do with the fact that she's also the dumbest rock in the company as well. She skips steps 2 to 9 and goes to the final step and treats it like everything's normal and fine. She's not even doing the bare minimum anymore

>debut was a debuff
>wait for the karaoke to get the real numbers
and here we are with ~50% drop
the copes are actually so sad

>>21674587
>83.8k and 68.7k now
Are those their normal numbers or are they buffed right now?

>>21677129
I went to check and what the hell half of them haven't streamed in over a week. Nyanners 2 weeks.

>>21677497
Not really. If she put any effort at all it would be more clearcut. But she’s at what 5k now? That doesn’t prove shit. She’s a horrible singer so her numbers are going to be her core audience and no tourists.

>>21677580
Mizkif and Xqc are juggernauts on Twitch like actual monsters

>>21677580
Normal for both. Xqc is the biggest streamer in the world

>>21677453
Because they prioritized JP and kept treating EN as something secondary like ID, even after EN got big.

>>21677497
Until they actually promote their twitch streams we will never have a nice comparision.
This karaoke stream for example was a goddam guerilla.
The girls probably dont know how shit twitch discoverability is.

>nerfed by Youtube
>nerfed by Cover
It fucking sucks that we'll never get to see the full potential of Myth unleashed, imagine if Cover were actually competent and let them do whatever they wanted on Twitch right from the start. 60k monthly averages would have become the norm.

>>21677569
don't bother anon
the cull fags will never ever accept it
you are literally wasting your time trying to convince them

>>21677661
Not Ibai?

>>21677464
she did 4.2k

>>21677681
Why are burgers always equal twitch with THE WORLD?

Kobo 4k

>>21677717
HoloES is the answer

>>21677809
Akira Toriyama is the papa for one
the red 14 dollar superchats would rain

>>21677480
>Gura's cover with Matsuri recorded in October 2020, released at the end of March 2021
>Country Roads recorded in October 2020, released in Mid 2021 where management didn't even allow them to do re-takes despite everyone getting vocal training done, all Myth members hate the cover to death and don't even want to acknowledge its existence
>Delays outfit reveals
>Rejected Gura's appeal to do Youtube shorts
>Poked at Gura for asking for game permissions
>And many more

I would be livid too. Remember, their original song together was done purely by them (lyrics and MV by Mori, art by Ina) and they flat out said they got tired of being held back and want to take the reins themselves. And I don't blame them in the slightest

>>21677742
I don't know I haven't checked in ages. Ibai is doing some cool things with the platform that get good views when he does them but idk what his normal average is

Kobo at 4k
Does my fellow indos doesn't fucking sleep?

You know watching Ame just not give a shit makes me understand 2 view seethe a little. They get a golden ticket and some just choose not to cash it in

Kobo 4.3k. isn't that already higher than Pomu's Minecraft earlier?

>>21677717
They're never going to do frequent streams on twitch so you'll never get their real numbers

>>21677888
He is at 30-40k when chatting

The indog didn't even try and still mog the shit out of NijiEN female

>>21677809
Vete a mierda Misora, tú nunca vas ha ser aceptada en hololive

>>21677772
>>21677899
indogs watching indog

>>21677864
>Rejected Gura's appeal to do Youtube shorts
>meanwhile Marine and Watame are allowed to do them just fine
Why would they do that?

>>21677221
What about Lulu? Is it deleted or private?

>>21677864
It takes some serious stones to make fun of your most subbed streamer as a lowly manager in front of her new kouhai.

>>21677938
>>21677960
>>21677965

>>21677584
That's worse than HoloEN, I thought vshojo at least streamed even if it was bottom of the barrel reaction garbage.

>>21677864
>Remember, their original song together was done purely by them (lyrics and MV by Mori, art by Ina) and they flat out said they got tired of being held back and want to take the reins themselves
This is a very generous description. They basically begged management to not get involved and let them handle it, and thanked management for doing that on stream (lmao)

>>21677681
This, imagine working at a company where management wastes resources on a poorly performing Japanese gen which debuted at the same time while ignoring your needs for years just because you're not JP. No wonder some of them stopped giving a shit.

>>21677899
Not Indog but I am kind of entranced by the way she says "superchat thanku" and looks like she bows to each one.

>>21677996
To be specific, Gura is very 'in the moment' with shorts and I don't fucking know why it takes so long for management to okay shit, to the point that she loses motivation to do them because it takes too long to get the a-okay.

>>21678003
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/user/A7FD526CCF4ED8BB_e96f1e
Clicking on the removed ones says they're private.

>>21677996
that is just a rrat. gura recently said she just doesn't like editing videos on wingblows and her mac has been out of commission for awhile.

>>21677960
You're aware elira is playing a visual novel right? those are great numbers for this kind of game. A lot more than when Reine played it if I remember.
>>21673061
Yeah she's really the breakout. I expected that to happen because her design is really great. I've been watching her here and there and she's pretty fun.
>>21672331
I was only picking the top 5 for this month. Overall ofc Lize still is very high in nijisanji.

She didnt annonce the karaoke, I was talking about the stream earlier that got cancelled because Cover is incompetent with their permission.
>>21677644

>>21678087
Coco said why, they need several tiers of managers to approve shit like that before it can be posted. It's retarded as fuck.

>>21678112
>Reine
Hey buddy
That's an ID

>>21678040
Nah nyaners is in depression arc
Vei wont stream until redebut and is sucking sodas dixk meanwhile

>>21677996
>>Gura's cover with Matsuri recorded in October 2020, released at the end of March 2021
>>Count
Probably the same reason the staff refused to give Watame boob mouse pads and dakimakura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_v0R8NOqVk

Suddenly, this place became /hlgg/

>>21678106
It's not a rrat, it's what Gura literally said

>>21678106
Watch streams, she called out management for not approving her shorts.

Oh my fucking God we dwelled on this retarded Ame topic so long it rebirthed the gen 5 schizo from the depths of hell

>>21678203
i don't know if he's samefagging but there's a dude making the same dumbass points as him

>>21675028
Somebody finally doing this? Also are these peak viewers or average viewers?

>>21678106
Gura literally said that there's too much management interference so she loses her motivation.

>>21677996
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't want their biggest star to get into any possible trouble from outsiders. Remember during the debut era she got some outside attention by retards like Brittany Venti who said she was pedo baiting and shit. I have a suspicion they just deny Gura the ability to do things so they don't have to deal with that type of shit but who knows.

>>21678106
I don't have the exact stream but she's flat out said she got denied the chance to do them. Management wouldn't allow her to upload shorts to her channel

>>21677129
Imagine the #'s if Myth had their April fools session on Twitch

How much is Hal stream supposed to get tomorrow to be guaranted gold?

>>21678195

>suddenly

lol

>>21678339
50k would suffice. there's no huge event from either side today.

I lived to see the day that fucking UKI is actually mogging Ame's karaoke...

Ame...

>>21678112
So you accepted that NijiEN girls are at HoloID tier, right ?

will someone actually post the moment gura said this or will you just parrot shit you've read and believed

>>21678339
isn't it today?

>>21678195
don know
are vox or some other relevant niji streaming right now?

>>21678339

he got 70k last year but this time the hype is bigger so it should be pretty much guaranted gold anyway

>>21678339
Consider the last lottery got 71k (It was on August 10th if you want to go check Playboard/ranking sites), there is NO WAY this one gets less than that.

The numbers look really low for a male-only collab... what went wrong?

Off topic but It feel good to see an hololive stream in true 1080P like fuck i didnt notice how much YouTube resolution is kinda shitty.

>>21678339
wait, what's the Emperor's stream tomorrow for?

>HoloEN can stream on Twitch now
So their management is already changed right?
>>21678395
I feel we underestimated non-EN based viewers that lost because they don't know about Twitch.

AZKi passed Pikamee. She was trading back and forth with Toko for a long time before this, first time I've seen one of them break off and move ahead that far.

>>21674742
>https://www.twitch.tv/team/hololive
Almost every one is there

>>21678413
Nobody has ever said something that indicates they think this is untrue in these threads? Everyone is aware
>>21678516
The thing I'm most surprised about is that it's Uki on top. I thought he was the abject failure ccv-wise early on

>>21678341
Your reddit spacing is showing

>kobo freetalk approaching 5k
nijifemsis.... not like this

>>21678516
1) They're Noctyx, not Luxiem
2) The usual multi-PoV debuff

>>21678424
People were bitching about management

>>21678516
Those numbers are better than their last Valorant collab tho

>>21678639
Okay Okay. Man, i's not fun when no one got triggered.

How has Kowalski's view count been doing? I've noticed her slowing down a lot in sub growth.

>>21678604
They've been allowed to stream for over a year, most of them don't give a shit about it. Kiara, Ina, Gura will probably never stream there.
Mori was going to stream on there during the peak of the Connor arc cause she was pissed but I don't think she's ever mentioned it since.

>>21678339
>vsaikyou s3 landmark roll, CR landmark roll, vsaikyou s4 announcement
around 100k-120k

>>21678516
>holonigger lying about numbers
that has become daily occurrence, huh, also,
HOLY SHIT
we are in NA primetime and we have:
>Nijisanji EN: 22K viewers (6 streams)
>Hololive EN: 6K viewers (1 stream)

NIJI EN INCLINING AT NA HOURS

>>21678594

Landmark Lottery for the Apex tourney

god i amelia upsets me sometimes with how hard she doesnt give a fuck, only way anyone would know about this karaoke is either spread by fans themselves or actually being there for her "debut" stream since she didnt mention it anywhere else.

>>21678301
Adding to this, Gura has also shared that she's just waiting for her contract to end and she'll probably apply to VShojo where the talents are free to do what they want

>>21678674
>multi pov debuff
That is still a buff compared to their solo content

>>21678604
The thing is, outside Mori, is clear the rest of Myth is not comfortable (yet) to stream on twitch.

>>21678604
I don't even think 95% of her potential viewers even know she's streaming on twitch right now, anon.
>Didn't post this at all on her youtube page
>Didn't even put a link on her twitter to this karaoke
>Purely a guerilla karaoke at this point
>Literally had 23k followers on twitch prior to this stream
Like, I don't think there's any possible chance that her main and casual audience are right there waiting for this to go. It's so disorganized by Ame's own debuff nature. And it's still climbing, despite all that

>>21678797
Collabs are a buff, multi-PoVs are not.

kobo 5k
>kobo 5k
kobo 5k
>kobo 5k

>>21678764
Anon, it's the weekend. That means Chinese/TW schoolgirls are not in school and are clearly awake right now. I'd be impressed if this was a weekday but not for the weekend.

kobo 5k get

Kobokan 5k

>>21678812
>Twitch viewers hate female
>Twitch viewers hate anime
I am not surprised at all

We counting total views of whole branches now?

is Kobo riding a huge debuff buff, or did the indogs finally get the vtuber of their dreams? Havent watched her outside of debut and I remember her english was very... special and seemed like she'd lean more towards indo speak

>>21678764
>Nijisanji EN: 22K viewers (6 streams) = 3.6K/stream
>Hololive EN: 6K viewers (1 stream)
>NIJI EN SURE IS INCLINING AT NA HOURS ALRIGHT KEK

I guess you were not around yesterday huh?

>>21678739
>t-t-triggered
go back
>>21678812
You're overestimating how different twitch is from youtube from the streamer's perspective. They could definitely just start over there. Just need mods that understand. Hell, Mori and the ID girls could mod for them they have all used twitch.

so ID is actually a thing now?

>>21678861
The collab buff is enough to blow any solo content by a wide marging.

Nothing personal, Alban

>>21679027
>debuff buff
Did you mean debut buff?

>>21679027
debut* holy shit

>>21679027
>is Kobo riding a huge debuff buff
Yes

>>21679007
Only as a way of determining how many people are watching at the moment. The peaks are a different thing.
Yes yes, context etc etc etc cope w/e.

>>21679007
It's the only way NijiEn will ever win. Generate enough 1-3k shitters

Why do the holoID girls get so shit superchats? Yeah yeah poor indogs or whatever but they have many yuro/jop/burgers watching them and they still get no superchats. Like Kino has over 5k watching this superchat reading, ATLEAST 1k of those has to be burgers right? But they dont get superchats like they have 1k burgers watching them. Vtubers with 1k viewers for a superchat reading usually gets way more in superchats

>>21679027
she's not too loud like ollie or iofi, actually can listen to her is nice, on par with reine imo
t.indog

Which other Holos have done streams on Twitch and what are their numbers? Why not use that as a comparison instead?

>>21677996
Because they didn't reject her. They just wanted to check them over which was going to take too long for Gura so she just canned it.

>>21679191
It's a torture to use other system to superchat in my experience.

>>21678764
>weekend numbers
yaawwwn

>>21679073
How the fuck is Uki the top CCV in that collab? Even the NijiEN thread says he is the most boring vtuber imaginable

>under 7k with karaoke
what's the excuse holobronies?

evertime kobo speaks english she inclines, when she speaks indo it just plateau's/stablize

>>21679272
What other system?

>>21679318
SEAfaggots most likely.

>>21679318
drama buff eh?

>>21679357
She didn't post a video notice on her youtube channel with 1mi dead subs, doesn't count.

so... ame twitch number only slightly higher than her YT?

>>21679027
>>21679053
kobo cracked ID market

>>21679405
What drama did he get into?

>>21675919
>hololive summer
https://youtu.be/lzM_WXROmPI
Japanese viewers migrate by the thousands

>>21679191
indogs mostly use sociabuzz, right?

>>21679357
And during saturday NA primetime with the twitch novelty.

>>21679207
Only lap+ for gaming. But she is also a guerilla lady.
Only way to pass the user is that they do what miko had to do when youtube shit the bed in her mc stream.
Make a youtube stream and then link the twitch on there. Only that way we can see the difference in viewers count between each platform.

>>21679388
Streamlabs and Sociabuzz (basically indos streamlabs)

>>21679416
I mean when you underperform your usual karaoek numbers then yes, not fucking doing the usual shit or doing it in the usual place is a pretty obvious explanation. Are you guys just shitposting?

>>21679433
And Nijisanji left the market... Why tho

>>21679420
With like 30k followers and not tweeting out or giving any advertisement for her karaoke, yep.

>>21679459
off-collab with fish and pomu. fans think it's a girl only collab than he appeared and feel cucked.

>>21679027
Debut buff or not. For an indog to get 5.5k on what's essentially an SC reading stream is insane. Selen getting 5k on an Apex stream would be considered great numbers and this indog kusogaki is blowing her out. If Kobo turns out to be a numberfag I would absolutely kneel to her.

>>21679493
>guerilla lady
?

>>21679420
not bad when only indication of a karaoke was actually being their for the debut stream and word of mouth, plus none of her yt subs who dont use twitch or twitter might not even know.

>>21679191
This discussion has come up before. Comparing JP donations to streamers to any other countries will make those countries look poor. EN girls on youtube not named Gura/Calli will never be able to compete with the Lamys of the world.

>>21679073
Hahahahaha!

>>21679191
Most of us indos can't use superchat, our alternative to superchat is sociabuzz and streamlabs

>>21679586
She does valo out of no where

>>21679608
Gura? I thought it was Kiara

>>21678872
>>21679033
>>21679273
Okay, let's put this thing to rest with NUMBERS.

>all-Noctyx collab featuring all of them
>same number of POVs
>same day
>same time

A week ago: 14K
Now: 20K

Despite your feelings on the matter, they ARE incling.

>>21679630
Why is SC blocked in Indonesia?

>>21679207
Because the others are JPs and their numbers were, predictably, lower on the platform where they don't usually stream. Its not fucking possible to understand if there is a big difference without consistent twitch streams, because your audience will not transfer 1:1

>>21679565
because they only get shit sponsorship like slapped their face on some smartphone box or maybe fast food stall

>>21679207
Pekora and Miko get lower numbers than their youtube. Nene gets slightly less than normal for watchalongs.

>>21679318
Alpha male buff
after railed Pomu and fish whore he already establish dominance over his wave

>>21679588
She posted it on her schedule and was highly anticipated so there is that. Even people that don't watch Ame knew about it.

>>21679673
>same game
oh wait

>>21679073
>Superchat stream get more view than the rest of the NijiMales's Collab stream
I laughing so hard right now.

>>21679673
>not same game

>>21679580
She sing her solo song every chance she has. She totally is a numberfag

>>21679733
Nigger look at this and fucking say it again.

>>21679673

>valorant

i mean..........

>>21679733
the debut stream was which lasted an astonishing 22 minutes before she fucked off, if you showed up late then theres no indication

>>21679741
>>21679752
>Prop Night
>more popular than Valorant

>>21679673
>comparing valorant to prophunt
Compare to ready or not now

>>21679673
Valorant is kind of dogshit and not the sort of game their audience is interested in. Propnight lets you banter and interact.

>>21679673
>Trying to compare Valo to prop night
Come the fuck on anon. Come.the.fuck.on.
We both know that game choice heavily affects who's going to tune in. All I can say for sure from this is that Prop night gets better numbers than Valo.

>>21679683
ARS > IDR

>>21679683
some fucky tax issue, don't remember the details.

>>21679644
It is Kiara, she has 1.1 million vs gura's 960k

>>21679801
yes

mouse it's embarassing vsj by letting people struggle to make a letter because she's too lazy to put a picture on stream

>>21679565
Riku anti-luck
demolish NijiID before holofest happen

>>21679843
Yea, I mean it's not even a question. Valo needs you to actually have some inkling of what's going on to enjoy it, whereas anyone can enjoy the chaos and madness of prop hunt.

will kobo be the gura of ID?

>>21679843
No one really plays prop hunt, though. Valorant streams are way more common for VTubers and get more views.

>>21679565
They had 6 waves and couldn't get a foothold in the market.
Hololive cracks the market in 3 gens.

>>21679910
style-wise or number-wise?

>>21679960
Gotta think like a fujo anon

>>21679673
nigga they actually reclined

>>21679726
I don't know man, these numbers look really fucking good for watchalongs

>>21679910
dont jinx the poor girl, she doesn't deserve it

>>21680038
both

>>21680049
Was this their first post-debut collab or something?

>>21679910
i fucking hope so. She clearly has the talent.

>>21680049
kek, nijiniggers caught lying again

>>21679910
>Trying to invoke the gura-killer curse
BEGONE FOUL BEAST!

>>21667358
Who the fuck is sleep monster, why isn't anyone talking about them?

>>21679910
She needs to do karaoke once a month.

>>21679608
By looking at the nijifags donos the Hkd and twd superchatters are pretty genorous too..

>>21680120
Yes it was

Little by little Ame is inclining, I hope she can mog that amazon concert.

>>21679910
she is like pekora+gura
if you understand ESL
make little cute voice,nice banter,beautiful singing

>>21680120
First or second iirc. I think they've done the game twice so it could be later. idk I gave up hope on liking them around that collab

>>21679910
She unironically is already. The fact that she's slowly catching up to Zeta who currently has the biggest EOP buff in HoloID, and mogs almost everyone in NijiEn with a fucking SC reading stream cannot be overstated. This is it. ID's golden gen has arrived.

Zeta, MillyMusiiC, and Shoto are about to pass Finana one after the other.

>>21680061
The beauty of actually promoting every one of those streams on twitter and youtube. Ame should actually learn a thing or two about advertising from Miko

>>21680302
calm down, she still not on milord level yet

>>21680349
>Ame
>Believing she will stop debuffing the shit out of herself with inconsistency, Guerilla nonsense, etc
NGMI

>>21680072
She doesn't look like a memester, I think that's the difference between her and Gura, but I guess many JP bros also can't get Gura's jokes most of the time and think she's just a cute bratty little sister. Number-wise, she needs to surpass Zeta first (there is a chance), and need to be no.1 ccv in ID branch all the time which is challenging. No idea about VOD views yet.

>>21680250
ASMR group or something.
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/atsleepmonster

uhhh i think ame just beat uki's peak.

>>21680348
Milord didn't do well yesterday, he really needs to stop playing games and just go for full Fujobait.

>>21680349
It has been a year we all know that Amelia is the incarnation of the debuff streamer.

>>21680472
Isn't Uki still inclining though? I thought he was going to beat Fauna's peak.
>Dropped down to 6.6
Oh