/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

30 mins dead huh

Attention all Vtubers! This is your new manager speaking!
https://streamable.com/wcyxf8
Thank you for your attention.

Don't mind the enby stuff but this one has called out the whole Holorot in everyone's brains.

https://twitter.com/codie_sys/status/1377921182234775552

>Hololive catapulted the medium into the public eye, which is great! VTubing clearly resonates with many people. However, it means we've been forcing ourselves to follow their model, from debuts to the types of streams we make to how we go about presenting ourselves.

Pretty late to catch onto this, don't you think?

Do normies really use vtubie?

>>2162259
tl;dr
>also that twatter bio

New thread new links.

>Thonker hours still ongoing, go listen
https://www.twitch.tv/thinkerbella
>Moon bun chatting and singing too
https://www.twitch.tv/silvabun
>Blue aussie in a bunnysuit Minecraft
https://www.twitch.tv/bakamitaiau
>Drunk ghost sis is singing drunkenly
https://www.twitch.tv/reiyuguigui
>Guinea pig ESL learning languages in Fallout New Vegas
https://www.twitch.tv/emmymeadows
>Koala boss in XCOM2
https://www.twitch.tv/donkoalachannel
>XIV self insert watching cat videos
https://www.twitch.tv/rayshii
>Space chicken on a Journey
https://www.twitch.tv/niwatoritv
>Purrito
https://www.twitch.tv/breakfastpurrito
>Timelord Apex
https://www.twitch.tv/freyahosino
>Ayy watching videos
https://www.twitch.tv/ivory_lotafia

>>2162207
It's still aussie hours so it's not like there's terribly much happening anyway.

>>2162259
Implying holo didn't copy someone else

>>2162259
>that bio
Opinion discarded

>>2162262
I don't think so. It's a place where chuubas put up their profile hoping for some visibility, then they forget about it completely.

>>2162306
I read that a few days ago but from what I remember
>aspiring chuubas quit because they are fixated on "making it" and the numbers destroy their brains
>hololive styled content became the norm and most chuubas try to replicate it in hopes of making it big
>chuubas see their friends getting better numbers and that makes them frustrated
>they should worry less about making it before they even discovering if they like it or not instead of dropping a couple hundreds or a few grands on assets
>chuubas should focus on expanding their interests and making content outside of the norm
On a tl;dr for the tl;dr
>chuubas need to see if they even like doing it, set their priorities, and focus on bettering themselves and finding their content.

>>2162399
I doubt anyone cares about vtubie

>>2162259
too much
>we

>>2162450
So much for streaming on youtube alone without any form of network. We're going full circle to those indies streaming 2 or 3 years to 0 or less than 5 viewers ever.

Reposting this find since I know there is some demand for gobtubers.
https://youtu.be/ekJvc3_MADw

>>2162259
>https://twitter.com/codie_sys/status/1377921182234775552
"I just want to be a TBA."

>>2162605
how did you interpret it that way?

>planning to debut once all the new vtubers realize that it's hard work and not an easy path to success dip out
Always buy the dip.

>validating vtweeter existence

>>2162664
>Buy the dip
THIS VERY MUCH THIS

...but when is the dip? When is the deepest part of the dip gonna be?

>>2162678
The dip is already happening, produce content every day and you'll accrue maximum followers.

>>2162678
Between october 2021 and march 2022

>>2162630
Read.

>>2162719
NEVER FORGET THE GREAT VTUBER CRASH OF 2022

>>2162450
>>2162450
That's why people like Nina and Koopa will make it. It's not about the numbers, it's not about making it or being into hololive. Numbers are just a side effect of their characters, their hard work and even if I'm not an idolfag (or maybe I am) I agree with the sentiment that there is only one direciton and its up and forward. The journey is the reward and you will make friends along the way to help you.. as long as you genuinely want friends. Otherwise you just clout chase and the clout chasers will fuck you and dump you the moment they got their clout boost.

>>2162605
why would they think that vtubing is any different from streaming? if you can't produce content for shit or don't enjoy it, it's not get out of poverty card

>>2162727
no u

Are there any Indian chuubas beside NijiIN?

>>2162678
22nd April 2022

>>2162678
Either when rona ends or when holo en2 debuts

>>2162790
Not that I know of

This lurking tiger wants to know more about (you)!

1) What are your thought on collabs? Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday? What did you thought about it?
2) Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time? Which one you would want to see?

Give a (you), get a (you)!

>>2162829
Seems like there are almost no central asian chuubas.

>>2162883

As a bonus today I will tell you my TIGER RULES instead as well as something about me !
- I usually do this questions around a certain time of the day. If the old questions are still there from the previous day, I will wait till the next one.
- I'm doing these questions to bump the thread, so if the thread is about to die (200+ replies) I skip that thread and wait till the next one.
- I'll keep doing this until the thread is active enough not to need it anymore or until I finally go mad and become an Anyaposter. Whatever happens first.
- I'm not tigerbed and that one might be Shimada herself.
- I think Tiger's voice is cute! CUTE!
- I didn't get raked and I was clearly baiting you with that Canada flag. I wanted to ask questions in /qb/ parallel /hlgg/...

>>2162883
>Among Us
I watched couple of first HoloJP Among Us collabs but that's it. I don't watch them anymore.
The game is too much of a normalfag socialshit with all the lying. And it's hard to choose a chuuba POV to follow.
>favorite collab
Zombie/survival mod FPS, Minecraft RP/events and APEX.

>>2162883
>What are your thought on collabs?
LOVE EM.
>Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday?
YES.
>What did you thought about it?
I think Symmy deserved to die every round after all.
>Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time?
Temmie x Pikamee, for /here/ Bunzel & Kongou
>Which one you would want to see?
Me x (You)

>>2162883
>What are your thought on collabs?
It's rare for a good collab to happen, when it does it's great but I don't keep my hopes up
>Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday?
Yes
>What did you thought about it?
It's wasn't the best but it had lots of enjoyable moments with everyone having fun which is a good point of Among Us, since if everyone is taking it easy the funny moments come naturally
>Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time?
Can't really tell
>Which one you would want to see?
More like pic related
They're painful and frustrating but they make great shitpost fuel
>>2162912
>go mad and become an Anyaposter
You do know that you're already past the point after repeating a ritual more than 5 times, right?

Star Fox in Dead Space
https://www.twitch.tv/srikersly

Loud cat Stardew Valley
https://www.twitch.tv/kitkatvt

>>2162912
I have no idea what the rake joke was, I couldn't find any Canadians and didn't get deported, and it seemed like my rakes did nothing.

>>2162883
>1) What are your thought on collabs? Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday? What did you thought about it?
No I went to sleep early and missed it, but I haven't really felt like watching /here/ chuubas lately anyway
>2) Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time? Which one you would want to see?
The first Vel Carmine punishment game before it became silly.

>I'm not tigerbed and that one might be Shimada herself.
That one is confirmed as being her

>>2162948
> all the lying
All warfare is deceit.
>APEX.
Nooo please noooo

>>2163006
>Temmie x Pikamee
link me
>Me x (You)
pic related

>>2163034
I love chess and I could see a /wvt/ chess battle tournament providing great entertainment for all ages.
>repeating a ritual more than 5 times
MY SANITY IS GONE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

>>2163149
Hiromoot works in mysterious ways.

>>2163306
>/here/ chuubas lately anyway
Which ones are you watching?

>That one is confirmed as being her
Ha! I knew it!

>>2163427
Only ones I've watched lately are Corpse and Koopa because youtube won't dox me and I don't really want to see anyone else for a while

Magic the Gathering guerilla stream! c:
https://www.twitch.tv/guardianzet

>>2163306
>The first Vel Carmine punishment game before it became silly
It's unfortunate, after the third one I stopped caring. It can still be fun but it needs to have actual interest with training arcs, not just a random collab.
Speedrunning race is still untapped... so are team competitions

>>2163427
>link me
It was pretty quaint all things considered, but it has sentimental value to me.
https://youtu.be/AM9JYONjxHk

>>2163772
Speedrun race... reminds me of the one Stalker vs Mocca where Stalker completed Ninja Gaiden but Mocca didnt and in the meantime Nina managed to beat it herself.

>>2162883
>thought on collabs?
I enjoy them. Seeing chuubas I like interact with each other is fun, and you often end up with memorable moments.
Though I must say as a viewer it can also be a bit stressful. I want to watch and support all of them, but multistreaming takes some effort now. Both youtube and twitch are hostile about this, what with YT not allowing embedding for smaller channels and twitch actively blocking you off if you try watching them through multitwitch or twitchtheater.
>Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday? What did you thought about it?
I did, found it very enjoyable. Very proud of seep. Aside from two planned chuubas having to drop out there were no technical difficulties either, which is great for a collab with that many participants. Got timewarped too, didn't even notice two hours went by that quickly.
>Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time?
I am extremely biased towards africat collabs. The L4D2 quartet was fantastic, but I think the Rose/Nina Portal 2 playthrough is still my favorite. I am really looking forward to Phasmo later today, even though I usually don't care too much for the game. Just hope everything goes well, tech-wise.
>Which one you would want to see?
Still biased towards africats, mostly I just want to see them reach out more, make many friends, and find a large following. Neko has been showing up to Ari's chat a lot recently, would be cute to see them play together. It'd probably also be cute to see Rose and Catzii do some cat cafe rp collab, since that's Catzii's theme and Rose made herself an entire maid outfit for her avatar. Seeing them all together one day might be cute too, just because it's a such a coincidence that there's 4/5 south african catthemed vtubers out there.

>>2162883
>What are your thought on collabs?
I've never been a fan of them regardless of the type of chuuba or content. I can't quite put my finger on why though. Its probably just me being autistic.

>>2164067
lack of chat interaction and bad chemistry usually

>>2164110
>lack of chat interaction and bad chemistry usually
Nta but yeah, that's mostly it. If they have good chemistry the lack of interaction is not a big deal.

>>2163306
>>2162912
I'm not taiga just a tiger bro.
t shimabed poster.

>>2163510
You know there is an extension that hides you, right?
Also using incognito mode hides you from chuubas as well.
>>2163780
Sell me on it
>>2164058
I'm not really a fan of phasmo myself either.
>it's a such a coincidence that there's 4/5 south african catthemed vtubers
Because 4/5 of all vtubers are... hmm better not finish that sentence
>>2164067
It takes a lot of work outside the scenes to make a collab work out. Chuubas really have to think it through and most of them don't realize this. It work betters with friends you are already familiar with.

>>2164187
>I'm not taiga just a tiger bro
My tiger powers failed...

>>2164239
>You know there is an extension that hides you, right?
Everyone says this but it's very buggy, you need to deactivate and activate it again when going into a channel to be sure it will work.
>Also using incognito mode hides you from chuubas as well.
Yeah, since in theory you won't be logged in.

For me, it's galactiernova.

>>2164333
Ah fuck right I saw a notification for her going live.
Binding of Ayysac
https://www.twitch.tv/galactiernova

>>2163899
Not really like that but kind of. The idea would be for the people in it to actually go in a training arc since that is actually the best part of competitions, seeing the effort being put and if it pays off or not.

>>2164239
>You know there is an extension that hides you, right?
>Also using incognito mode hides you from chuubas as well.
I still don't really feel like watching some of them, it would feel to awkward

Kana Alter
https://www.twitch.tv/chiipaws

>>2162883
>1
They're fun. Yes. It was fun.

>>2164434
I can't understand like a third of what she says but that makes her even cuter.

>>2164552
Fun things are fun!
>>2164327
>Everyone says this but it's very buggy
didn't knew that... yabai...

>>2164386
>it would feel to awkward
explain this to me if you are not uncomfortable with that.

>>2164609
Because I'm considering avoiding this community entirely, it would be easier to just forget some of them. I don't think I fit in to begin with.

>>2164749
No one except that one back alley schizo cares about your chat name, seriously don't sweat it

>>2164814
My chat name is known and linked to my chuuba name

>>2164434
Damn she really sounds similar to Kana, a shame she is lacking something

>>2164858
Just create a new account, holy shit, why do you make this more dramatic than it really is

>>2164858
Oh
I still think you shouldn't care but whatever

>>2164892
he's mentally ill

>>2164749
Well, can't blame you. The indie scene is a bit rough. You should try to seek groups you are more comfortable with.
Maybe corporates? A bit of distance between you and the streamers might be what you need.

>>2164924
I know, that's exactly why I'm saying this

Reminder that this is happening today.
https://twitter.com/BatAtVideoGames/status/1376505368931663873
Please cherish bat while there is still time.

>>2165105
>don't touch my ears
I didn't want to before, but now I have a strong and sexual desire

>>2165105
>Please cherish bat while there is still time.
What

>>2165105
is she graduating? I forget to use twitch

>>2165126
She's doing a 24 hour stream where if you pay a dollar she commits suicide and goes back one stage in a platformer. And she needs to beat three kusoge in a row with these rules.

>>2165105
Shes fucking dead.

>>2165105
>No overlap with the collab today
Truly a blessing

>>2165105
Fellas...

>>2165597
she is going to die live on stream ain't she?

>>2165623
Probably, but she seems to be accustomed to very long streams

>>2165156
Chuubas here need to gimmicky like this more.

>>2165597
Hope she is in top shape for it. Going for that long is really fucking unhealthy.

>>2165663
That's what I've been saying all the time and why I applaud Moriko for thinking of new fun things like this, she even mentioned having other fun ideas that she hopes to be able to do once she stops being a poorfag.

Carol hunting for stream assets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzIqrFjGYSI

>>2164333
>>2164361
Is she from the West? She sounds very Japanese despite speaking English

https://twitter.com/AirshowD/status/1376943389053231104
Sentient aeroplane debuts today

>>2165794
She's japanese

>>2165794
Uhhhhhhhh............
Don't tell nobody ok?

>>2162259
No one is forcing them to do shit and plenty of indies dont follow the holo format at all. This just sounds like whining

>>2165809
>russian plane

>>2165830
It's the cries of people who just wanna be TBA's.

>>2165832
As a ruskie, I give it 1 turkish rocket, 2 drunk strip mechanics or 2 underpaid crew quarrel.
Picrel TU-22 strategic bomber captain catapulted crew, on ground, saying "I ain't gonna fly with those fags", killing everyone but himself.
https://files.catbox.moe/xcj36g.jpg

>>2162259
>called out the whole Holorot in everyone's brains.
>ITS THE WORLD THATS WRONG!
This is a hallmark of infantilism. Nobody owes you shit, adapt to market economy or die.

Alice Latte is playing Resident Evil 7
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiCH0rSQsI

>>2165852

>>2162259
>why does being a vtuber have to actually involve vtubing?
Society was a mistake.

>>2162259
>incompetent lazy westernshitters playing victim cart again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KbeqN7pZ4

>>2162259
Is this person new to otaku culture? Japan is very formulaic on the way they do things and the western communities try to emulate that. Its always been that way.

>>2166116
it's literally
>NOOOOOOOOO STOP GATEKEEPING VTUBERS
the twatpost

>tfw scared af to start my career as a lewdtuber
I guess I just have to do it anyways, huh?

Super terrified of not being well received, but everyone's been cool so far.

>>2166228
>lewdtuber
As long as you don't do something stupid and denounce loli or something you'll be fine

>>2166228
>lewdtuber
Eh, if you plan to do camshows or some shit better jump in early

>>2166260
>>2166228
Don't expect to get an audience here though. Maybe /aco/ is more suited to you

>>2166260
Nope. I want to encourage people to be perverts, not the other way around.

>>2166286
Well I was going to, but then the purge happened, and now I have to find a new home for that sort of thing.

>>2166302
But does /aco/ like humongous hungolomghnonoloughongous?

>>2166436
You want to be a fat tuber?

>>2166228
Remember that being lewd is actually a form of keyfabe. Even appealing to coomers is hard since your competition is literally porn and there are tons of it for free everywhere.
Everyone here shits on vshojo but doing lewdtubing is more similar to erotic fanfics that 3D webcaming.
You want to deal damage, emotionally and physically. 3D streamers just have to show their tits and call it a day but your weapon is your own words, and you will have to use them right. Read erotic literature. Seduction is an art on itself.

If people who don't normally send dick pics sent you dick pics, you won.

>>2162259
How does someone become so much of a narcissist that they cry about not getting enough viewers?

>>2167057
I assume any US uni campus?

>>2167057
>We have enough of that at work, in school, in all of this capitalist system!

Of course the vtweeters are fucking commies. The market hath spoken and it has chosen not to support you at all.

>>2166228
DM me I'll gladly fap to your voice...

>>2167057
Bad parenting/education that fails to teach people they aren't special and entitled to success.

https://youtu.be/HzIqrFjGYSI
Caroru streaming?

>>2166436
You sound like a good gal.
What do you mean by the purge, though?

What do you think about Alfie's take?
https://twitter.com/AlfhildeO/status/1377967378085126152

>>2162259
>>2167174
The market hath spoken and it doth not care for nonexistent content

>>2168220
>You don't have to stream to be a vtuber
Wrong.

>>2166436
>but then the purge happened
I don't quite get it what you mean by that

>>2168199
Youtube purging ASMR perhaps?

Pogfrog
https://www.twitch.tv/lilyhops
Valkyrie teaching
https://www.twitch.tv/alfhildeodin

>>2162259
>>2168220
>>2168276
Alfhilde's reply to his first tweet
>Im glad someone is speaking about this. But i see people who just tweet and don't make content more as ''OCs'' and not vtubers. When i say content i mean art , videos , singing , streaming. You don't have to stream to be a vtuber. There are many forms of content. 1/2

>And just to be clear it's totally fine to create an oc as tweet as it , commission art as it. But i don't think that's vtubing that's more a character account and roleplay. Which is also valid and if it makes them happy u go.

>And you absolutely do not have to make content every week or every month. You can go at your own pace.
>But i've had this convo in voice calls and discords so many times. I've seen people have legit mental breakdowns over numbers. Friends have vanished and its so sad and hurts.

>>2168276
Yeah it's wrong. But I think she's talking about at least creating some video-content with the model.
Actually using it. Maybe "Let's play's" (I don't know if she considered that).

>>2168276
>Wrong
You don't actually, making skits or videos like in the older days is still vtuber content, being a vsinger can be considered part of vtuber culture. All vtubers use an avatar but not all content created with avatars falls into vtubing.

>>2164749
Anyone can fit in, simply by knowing Hololive from a /jp/vt/ perspective, honestly speaking. Everything after that is up to oneself to just not be an asshole.

There's no Africat thread up, but new africat debuting in 40min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqaeLIYzn90

>>2164749
>fit in
Some of the most popular chuubas in these parts don't act as if they're /here/, even if they are. Just be friendly and considerate and you'll be fine, same rules as normalfag spaces honestly.

>>2168684
Thanks for the reminder

>>2165623
First live vtuber death

>>2168220
Shit take and dropped

>>2168700
>same rules as normalfag spaces honestly.
Fuck you, faggot.

>>2168744
Something about the facial capture getting all the detail from a roommate's face during the death throes and broadcasting that for the world to see is some cyberpunk dystopia shit.

>>2168852

>>2168276
Hey.
Fuck you.

>>2168700
>Just be friendly and considerate and you'll be fine
Too bad he failed at following that advice

>>2168887
While her body lies in the floor, chat bonks the bat thinking its all part of the performance

>>2169052
In theory you dom't have to stream. You can also just make asynchronous videos.

>>2169055
I don't know who he is and don't care. Just stating what you have to do if you want to "fit in" anywhere that isn't populated soley by psychopaths. Which this place isn't.

>>2168966
>aloe
lot of good having sex did you

>>2169376
It worked out in the end >>1963229

Kotzudan
https://www.twitch.tv/veleck

>>2169461
thanks, blacklisted

>>2169528
Is it real schizo hours up in here? The fuck is wrong with this thread right now?

>>2169621
>roastie vtubers
??

>>2169621
It's just the one guy wandering from one thread to another.

>>2169642
>he doesn't forgive sex
??

>>2169703
Naturally. Vtubers are a fairy-tail. If I wanted to suspend my disbelief, I'd watch regular e-thots.
https://files.catbox.moe/2imhvs.mp4

Dropping a collab link for all POVs here so I don't lose it.
https://twitchtheater.tv/koopa_ch/ninaninin/v=dUifOmC1fws/v=jYZh0Wjl2Y8
Will probably see it again when the UNITY thread is up.

>>2169841
will include this in the OP, thanks for dropping it

Debuting now!
https://youtu.be/NqaeLIYzn90

>>2169947
Sure, I have one more hour to kill until the collab

>>2169947
https://youtu.be/fizPRMJfBzk

>>2169947
>all those trap comments
???

>>2169947
>NyanTails: Haru, my heart melt, i admit it
>Haru: you never tell me this when we're alone
>door hinges
>trap comments
Aaaand dropped

>>2170090
Nyan would've been genmates with her, but had to drop out before becoming chuuba because of uni.
Didn't hear doorhinges, but so far all the saffi cats I've watched live with their parents so I dunno.
Saw one trap comment, might be some discord injoke. Ari, Haru, and Nyan are mostly active on their discord it seems. That's 100% no trap voice.
This is all just stuff I've gathered from lurking in the africats thread.

>>2165852
Imagine only wanting to be a Twitter attention whore. Pathetic.

>>2170270
>alone with male chuuba
No thanks.

https://www.twitch.tv/wawakaeruvt
dirty frog plays persona 4 golden

>>2169947
>day 1 discord shilling

>>2169947
>[x][x][x]
Heavy sigh, no grooming for me here I guess, again.

>>2171078
Just wash your dick every now and then and you can knock one of those [x] off.

>>2171117
What cheese you eat that smells of fish?

>>2171175
Dick cheese

>>2171270

>>2168535
Vlogging with a model might still be better than TBA-ness.

>>2169621
It's the same guy shitting up the threads.

>>2169947
Kinda based desu. I'm warming up to her.

>>2169947
>I don't like the letter C
U-Uoh?

/unity/ thread is up for the Koopa+Nina+Rose+Neko Phasmophobia collab, which starts in five minutes.
>>2169966

https://youtu.be/NqaeLIYzn90
She’s debuting right now

>>2171675
Already got linked twice, fren.

https://www.twitch.tv/carmine_ch
chuuni's continuing the FF7 mod

AMONGUS
2 hours
http://twitch.tv/MizukiLuno
https://youtu.be/m8CYeDdLuBg

>>2162883
>1) What are your thought on collabs?
I love them it's fun to see people bounce off of each other!
>Did you watch the Amoung Us collab yesterday?
I was unable to watch due to being in that collab
>What did you thought about it?
I had an eggstraordinary time! Everyone was so nice and amazing
>2) Which has been your favorite vtuber collab of all time?
I know this is the indie thread but I'll go with my oshi for this question
I really enjoy Kiara and Ina collabs
>Which one you would want to see?
One I'd like to see Kiara and Ollie
>>2162912
Thanks for doing these fun questions!

new to vt, loved mori and ame during debut, but stop caring after a while,
have and rec for en speaking vt? more on the talkative side, and not just react to gameplay

>>2172828
read the fucking OP jesus christ

>>2172828
Come watch the Phasmo collab in 13 minutes

>>2172828
Kongou

>>2172828
This is indie central. If you want corpo shit this is not the place.
HOWEVER
If you are looking for indies
these may interest you, though they are not live now, they are somewhat talkative
bois:
spacer
twitch.tv/spacer_haywire_ch
alaric
twitch.tv/alaric_ch
egg
twitch.tv/eggch

grls:
PiCKY!!!
twitch.tv/PiCKYchannel
Dumpy Kot
twitch.tv/Veleck
Cute raccoon
twitch.tv/yozoraaoi

>>2172828
Watch out for Nijisanji EN debut.

>>2172828
>>2172910
This. They are genuinely very good. Thread for the collab here >>2169966

>>2172828
If you want someone who can talk non-stop for over 10 hours without taking a moment to breathe, I recommend Rose.
https://youtu.be/Y_LRkxvcV54
https://youtu.be/YHF4LgRvLmw
In any case, check out the Phasmo collab between her, Nekoreen, Koopa, and Nina in around 10 minutes. They're four high quality indies.
Otherwise, just check a couple links that pop out throughout the thread, and give the thread favorite pastebin a look.

>>2173062
>>2173106
MAXIMUM
SHILLING

>>2173155
Can't help it. I really, really love this cat.

>>2173155
It's lowkey the point of the thread desu.
If we don't shill we get a /backroom/ situation where the chuubas outnumber the viewers.

>>2173295
Why can't the chuuba just watch each other?

>>2172989
Little_S is that you I only ask because of the Yozo well even if it isn't you watch him because he is the best PNG tuber since he has actual emotions
https://www.twitch.tv/little_s_

>>2172828
YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL
jk, welcome to the bottom of the rabbit hole and have fun checking people out

>>2173644
is this really the bottom of the rabbit hole?

Red panda is playing one of her weird horror games again
https://youtu.be/vwdQC4RVhc4

>>2173703
Of course not, it can always go deeper.

But I'd argue this getting close.

>>2165965
>>called out the whole Holorot in everyone's brains.
>>ITS THE WORLD THATS WRONG!
>This is a hallmark of infantilism. Nobody owes you shit, adapt to market economy or die.


This is your brain on Holorot, go to twitch sometime.

This rat debuting right now has the ogey rrat Pekora sound playing every time someone follow her
https://www.twitch.tv/nezumichiru

>>2173345
They stream at the same time like IDIOTS

>>2173703
Considering that some of the relevants get sub 10 viewers sometimes, I'm thinking it is. The only place deeper is when you reach the undesirables.

>>2174315
>cute model
>that taste
sad

>>2174417
Time for game suggestions to fix this!

>>2174417
>listing Minesweeper and Uno as favorite games
Extreme power move
>Persona 5 and Danganronpa
Probably an NPC

>>2173765
>triple spacing

>>2174315
>>2174417
Holy fuck her chat VIPs are cancer underage normalfags, immediate redflag there.

>>2173713
She just said ogey. Is the red panda /ourgirl/?

>>2171806
live now

>>2172486
>I had an eggstraordinary time! Everyone was so nice and amazing
Seems everyone had good fun, viewers and chuubas alike!
>Kiara and Ollie
Weird how this hasn't happened yet. Seems like they both got Stacy energy.
>Thanks for doing these fun questions!
Thank you for bumping the thread!

I'm going to play some Burnout 3 to get all golds. Come hang out or whatever. I'm starting in a few minutes :

www.youtube.com/illreviewanything

>>2174417
She was memeing with those tastes, right?

>>2168220
Alfhilde has breakdowns constantly especially over numbers.

>>2175639
>burnout 3
Hey I used to like racing games once

https://twitter.com/ENiwatori/status/1378274103136817152

>picky will never call you cabron while she's mad at you

why even try living bros

>>2175683
Burnout 3 is the best racing game ever made.

>>2175661
Really? She's doing pretty well though

The image Shimada is too afraid of to give a comment on...

>>2175884
>>2175661
Because she is a massive menhera.
Honestly, what do you expect from someone whose introduction to the scene was:
>"I broke with my bf"
We don't caaareeeeeee

https://twitter.com/MizunoAki_

Any thoughts on this guy? There's literally zero male vtubers that do well right now who weren't established before they started vtubing but I think he's getting better predebut interaction than Valefor and has the popular fuccboi voice. He might do it.

>>2175746
Was Edgardo part of Picky circle?

phasmophobia is so boring to watch

you can see the number of likes dropping like a cliff as the vtweeter keeps rambling on about nonsense.

>>2176032
we dont talk about TBAs

>>2176070
from their interactions on Twitter seems they knew each other before vtubing

>>2176032
>Any thoughts on this guy? There's literally zero male vtubers
he's part of the problem by existing as nothing more than a vtweeter. tell me when he debuts and has actual content to watch instead of baiting for likes on twitter.

Live with more Loop Hero in 5-10 minutes! (technical difficulties, please andastan)
https://www.twitch.tv/calebhorusvt

>>2176032
>french
>leaf
>TBD
> THIS CHANNEL HAS NO CONTENT

>>>/auds/

tigeranon, where is your god now

>>2176128
>pic related

Also I keep forgetting Picky is sort of well know outside the vtuber scene

>>2175884
She's doing well. But when someone has numberfagging in their brain they wont believe that.
>>2176010
She sadly is. I dont like shit talking menharas, but in all honestly i am suprised she is shilled here as often as she is.

>>2176265
Are those Shimada's eyes and freckles?

>>2176265
Where it should be in tiger i trust.

>>2176032
>There's literally zero male vtubers that do well right now who weren't established before they started vtubing but I think he's getting better predebut interaction than Valefor and has the popular fuccboi voice. He might do it.
Valefor had 1k people on his debut and less than a hundred on his second stream. Twitter means shit if you want to talk abut viewership, debuts are very bad representation as well. Time will tell.

>>2176032
>TBD/TBA
Every time.

>>2176394

>>2176379
SEX WITH SHIMADA
SEX WITH DRAGON

>>2176434
My heart fuck hhhhnnnng does anybody happen to have some good coloring tuto?

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME ABOUT FELTI BEFORE

>>2166130
Gatekeeping is a good thing and i will die on this hill.

elf girl (male) playing elf game
https://www.twitch.tv/officenysoph

>>2176932
If you have a problem with gatekeeping, you're who it's designed to keep out

>>2176860
Because she is too pure for us

Shy bear singing
https://www.twitch.tv/charlottebear_ch

>>2177457
Cute!

no more debuts pls, only trailer vids

>>2173398
Not S but he's worth the plug too!!

I don't really care about Vtubbers, as in, I don't watch them or anything like that, I still don't. Though through some circumstance I ended up here and thanks to some of these threads I found people with pretty cool voices. Going through some of their tweets as well, just looking at whoever else they engaged with led to find even more people, so that's cool.
Whenever I get around to making a proper project on something, I'll make sure to hire them as voice talents.

And I sure hope they don't get discouraged by low views or anything like that and give up, since I know how shit that can feel sometimes, as if there's no point or reason in continuing with it anymore. It's just how things tend to go online with shit like this really, and especially with Vtubbing already crossing into the oversaturated zone where pretty much everyone can do it now.

>>2176032
TBA but at least he's debuting this month, so we'll see.

>>2178010
That sounds very nice, anon. Hope you are able to make your project.

>>2178044
Tell him to come back next month

>>2178010
>caring about "oversaturation" when it comes to enjoying a hobby and just having fun streaming
??

Cute bear is doing great!
Bit overwhelmed with streams today, but here's some more links.

>Bear again, please watch her doing her best.
https://www.twitch.tv/charlottebear_ch
>Bugchamp Kingdom Come Deliverance
https://www.twitch.tv/calebhorusvt
>Chuuni modded FFVII
https://www.twitch.tv/carmine_ch
>Megmama voice practice
https://www.twitch.tv/ifeltieyeld
>Reciting waka with Killing Intent
https://www.twitch.tv/kongouvtuber
>Speaking in ancient tongues with a friend
https://www.twitch.tv/vtubermushi
https://www.twitch.tv/kimicchi_ch
>Pomkerm Rimworld
https://www.twitch.tv/pumpiino
>Blue potato
https://www.twitch.tv/mittythebatata
>Space chicken
https://www.twitch.tv/niwatoritv
>Comically large eyes
https://www.twitch.tv/fuwach
>an entire green dog
https://www.twitch.tv/camuikushi
>Red and blue pigtail cat Hollow Knight
https://www.twitch.tv/yukari_v
>CEO is wrapping it up right now, but depending on how long she's still up,
https://www.twitch.tv/ninaninin/

>>2172828
Megbert

>>2178438
bear is always super em-bear-assed

>>2178438
Bear's awkwardness gives me energy.

>>2178438
This bear is too cute!

>>2179005
Very good taste in music, too

>>2172828
Megbert is talkative

https://youtu.be/TcpwehZlG24

Watching the chuubas support each other is the cutest fucking thing.

Two nerds.
https://www.twitch.tv/halbernacht

>>2179158
Viewerchama... Don't be so cute... I might gosling for you...

>>2179158
I love how supportive everyone is!

>>2175108
according to another anon she self posted in /auds/ before so she is prolly here

ASS drawing chibis
https://www.twitch.tv/dumplingshirara

>>2179160
>tomb kangz
based
>sk*ven
cringe

>>2179207
Good, because red panda is a cutie.
I also was the one who sent the Bel Air pasta.
YOU ARE A CUTIE

>>2179005
The image Charlotte is too afraid of to give a comment on...

The booba is too powerful

Seal is doing collab with lion
https://youtu.be/H0_4Xbr9gfY

Please pray for this bat.
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames

>>2180156
I love bat, but she doesn't love me.

>>2175661
I think they're starting to get imposter syndrome after getting attention from large vtubers like Lumi. i think her content is really good and she can absolutely get by with it alone, she's just a bit too worried about holding on to the success now that they've gotten a taste.

>>2180156
I guess I'll try to watch her tonight

This cute turtle is continuing her Platinum nuzlocke: https://www.twitch.tv/turtleneck_kameko

>>2180156
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

Goodnight /wvt love (you)

>>2181980
Goodnight Shimabed!

>>2181980
Sleep tight
*slaps you're butt*

>Me on the right

why is there purple dick in her mouth

>>2181980

>>2169771
This is not about real. Vtubers are just not idols, no matter how much Hololive and others spread that idea
Just go find a vtuber who wants to be pure instead of applying that as a norm

>>2179005
oh is the legend back?

>>2182710
>Vtubers are just not idols, no matter how much Hololive and others spread that idea
Touche >>2162259
>>2165965
>puts up an anime avatar to hide behind
>makes up a backstory
>oh by the way I TAKE TONS OF DICK HAHA
>REEEEEEEEEEEE WHY AREN"T MY ROASTIESHIT OSHIS SELLING!?
Because if anyone wanted used goods whores, they'd watch regular e-thots, not talking anime letsplayers. Get fucked, cuck.

This IS the norm.

>>21697710
people like you are def a cancer to the whole

Hour and a half in, nearly 500 bucks and no actual progress made

>my corporate retard chuubas that are only successful because they were handed a spotlight and a megaphone are totally not whores
>roommates
>takes dick on the regular
k

>>2183685
proof that women live on easy mode

what is it with western vtweeters and constantly shitstirring drama? just stfu and make content?

>>2183246
Its dead even in the archive, what was it?

Fuck off schizo and greet the back alley for me after your inevitable ban

>doesn't understand concepts of fairy-tail, story-making and suspension of disbelief
Fuck off with your roastie png cardboard vtweeters and twitch whores. As if only corpos have presence of mind not to leak this shit into their work.

Your cuckold divas will never fly, go woke - get broke.

>>2183764
Maybe, but bat is still pretty cool.

>>2183764
More like people will pay to watch someone suffer

>>2183685
24 hours is the upper limit, right?

>>2183971
*pay to watch women suffer
FTFY, let's be real no one cares for m*les in this scene

>>2184018
what happens after 24 hours? twitch wrangler van?

>>2184018
Nope.

>>2183704
There are Vtubbers out there who unironically slept around in order to get to where they are or were, lmao.

>>2184064
Nothing, the stream keeps going

>>2184088
bat gonna die

>>2183764
>women live on easy mode
do anons actually believe this?

>>2184209
Yep.

>>2184026
we live in a society
>select all images with: stairs

>>2184228
It's a basic misunderstanding.
Women are playing a different game altogether.
The game isn't even comparable.

Imagine bleeding from your pee pee once a month for no reason.

>>2183764

>>2184228
>do anons actually believe this?
I don't. Even if voice doesn't age as fast as appearance, streaming/VTubing isn't a reliable career. I may be making a month what top chuubas make in one day, but I will be making those money until I'm either dead or Alzheimer'd.

Voice doesn't age as fast as appearance and there are prospects for people with talents in VA or artwork, but lets be real: those would probably make some sort of career even without VTubing and are exceptions.

Nevermind the actual e-thots that have a very short shelf life.

>inb4 retirement moneybag
I doubt any person making short career out of VTubing/streaming without any backup plan, would be frugal enough about expenses to never work again in their lives.

>>2184520
>streaming/VTubing isn't a reliable career.
it's not even about whether or not it's a reliable career. it's the weird fucking mentality that incels have that just because someone is a woman, they suddenly "have it easier" as a streamer

>>2184832
>someone is a woman, they suddenly "have it easier" as a streamer
I would add "cute woman" and agree. Either cute voice or appearance are needed and they drastically increase chances of success. Just look at percentage of successful male VTubers dude. Hell, look at HOLOSTARS.

>>2184930
>Just look at percentage of successful male VTubers dude.
99% of them are boring as shit, same as traditional facecam streamers. that's why they're not successful. you can literally look at the /here/chuubas and see the ones doing well because they're actually entertaining in some way or another.

>>2184228
Yes.
Melody and Ironmouse just a few minutes ago were talking about how some of their friends sold their snot along with videos of themselves sneezing for loads of money. Then they continued to talk about their friends who sold used socks or underwear and other bodily fluids.
Men are unable to get money that easily.
Even if you're an incredibly attractive man unless you're an actor or something you're not making any money like that.

>>2184228
Funny thing is that even if that was the case the ones you have to blame for that are men

>>2185089
That's not women living life on easy, that's men being absolute degenerates. Gay men do the same things, guess their life is on easy mode, too.

>>2185089
I mean sure there are people who will pay for that but whose fault is it that people are giving them money for that?

>>2185089
...anon, they spent YEARS building up a fan base. once you've put in YEARS of reps and have a community like that, pretty sure you can sell your socks and underwear too. once you have that large of a following, you're bound to have some crazies who will pay you for that shit, sometimes literally

>>2185185
>>2185170
>>2185155
Oh my god, so much this.

>>2185078
>99% of them are boring as shit, same as traditional facecam streamers.
You're kinda proving my argument.

>>2184228
Women have the option to give up a portion of dignity they probably do not have anyways in order to live life with less material worries than men.
In short; there is an easy mode selector available to them. It takes many forms, from e-thottery to camwhoring to prostitution and piss-selling, but it is always available to them so long as they are not leper-tier. Vtubing makes this available even to leper-tier women so long as their voice isn't shit. Exceedingly few people are cursed with a bad voice and a bad face, so...

>>2185170
>Gay men do the same things, guess their life is on easy mode, too.
You are pulling the leg here anon. The targer audience for that would simply NEVER compare
>>2185185
>>2185089
>>2185170
>men being absolute degenerates.
Why are you taking this out of equation suddenly? Chicago school much?

>>2185317
Linkanon...

>>2166498
Well yeah. Moreso in some places than others, but you're not wrong.

>>2166512
I know. There's more to me than just lewd, but it's a big part of who I am and I figure a lot of people would like to see that side of me too.

>If people who don't normally send dick pics sent you dick pics, you won.
How do I get women to send me dick pics?

>>2168199
>>2168354
>>2168395
"The Hub" took down a bunch of videos recently so I'm not sure if we're going to be besties.

>>2185263
anon, success at streaming is based on how good you are as an entertainer. it has nothing to do with the junk between your legs. spoiler: unsuccessful women vtubers who aren't entertaining also exist

>>2185398
Where are successful male VTubers then? It's been YEARS.

>>2185447
>successful
i know this is bait because you're gonna use hololive levels of akasupas as the standard of "success"

>>2185492
Are you going to answer or not?

>>2185549
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g

>>2185629
That's great. Find me 100 more now.

>moving goalposts
ogey

Bug live
https://www.twitch.tv/pickychannel

>posts pro APEX player
you first faggot

There's hundreds, thousands perhaps 100k+ female VTubers. How many males like that? Yeah I thought so.

>>2185447
https://twitter.com/Takahata101
https://www.twitch.tv/aisriale
https://www.twitch.tv/bungotaiga
https://www.twitch.tv/foxyjoel
Masculine, Yumejoshi bait, femboy, and babi. A pretty even spread here of four entertaining men that are successful because they actually try. These four are ones that I can instantly think of off the top of my head without any delay. I know you are arguing in bad faith, but hopefully any non-moron will see this and know that you're wrong.

>>2185735
you need some help, anon. the professional kind, if possible.

>>2185397
>The Hub
That was a response to some nasty shit they had there but didn't care for years, so they purged all content from account that weren't verified. Pretty sure anyone can upload again, and to be safe you just need to have a verified account but I have no idea how that works.

>>2185788
I accept your concession you dumbfuck.
>>2185773
See >>2185656 and >>2185735

You are retarded and can shove your equality up your ass: it just doesn't exist.

>>2185849
damn bro you're pretty good at making yourself feel like shit for no reason

>>2185773
>bad faith
>6.4K followers
>28.1k followers
>23.9k followers
You did not even try, retard.

>>2185892
How so? You are the ones pretending market for cute streamer girls is somehow equal for cute streaming boys. Retards.

>>2185773
Just skimming a couple vods from one of them and I don't see what they do that some of /our/chuubas don't, apart from probably having more studio-like conditions for audio (money) or a shiny model (money)

No matter how I think about it, the problem is still with the degenerate men with too much disposable income who simp over anime girls.

>>2185773
your first link is disingenuous

>>2186024
>>2162259
>>2165965
>HOLOROT!
>THE WORLD IS WRONG!
Touche.

>>2186024
This

>>2185961
They have been around for longer and networked more.

>>2186114
Ah, time then
no matter

>>2185961
That's because some (not all) of /our/ male chuubas actually take their work seriously and put in effort. Imagine if Spacer had 2k to drop on a model and assets, money is an undeniable component of successful growth.
Also what this anon said >>2186114 the Ironmouse buff showed what happens when /our/chuubas positively interact and network with the outside world.

>>2186024
They aren't mutually exclusive but meh, this argument will just loop if it goes on

>>2186247
There was never any argument to begin with. Just a bunch of vtweeter retards arguing that simp potential is equal between males and females and if it's not, DEGENERATE MALES ARE TO BLAME!

>>2186169
To have an idea, taka was already a bigger streamer, joel has been going for a while and the artist buff is real when making connections, ais is new-ish but he had lots of pre-networking done with the other virchu chuubas, not sure on time for taiga but he has been streaming for some time ready, and femboys fall on that degen side of things

>>2186311
>There was never any argument
>retards arguing
Anon, pls... I still love you though

Let's watch some chuubas
Alien is live
https://www.twitch.tv/arypie

>>2186375
>aka was already a bigger streamer,
dude he was part of dragon ball z abridged

>>2186583
There's no contradiction. They argue, but they have no actual arguments.

Eggstronaut time I hope you can enjoy an egg cracking under pressure in FTL

>>2186645
I didn't know that

>>2186702
Pretty cool Egg
https://www.twitch.tv/eggch

Bat is not ogey

>>2186912
Egg is bretty cool.

kusoge rat https://www.twitch.tv/maroony

>>2188204
does maroony have porn? asking for a friend

>Have enough conviction to defend a corporation, or lash out at anything and call it holorot
There are multiple different models to follow or create your own. Muh indies vs muh corpos is a needless battle because different scenes require different tools. However, hololiveEN provides an alternative to the cultural monolith of lewdchuubas, a beacon for small indies to align themselves culturally, even if they are not part of hololive. Cover can burn for all I care, and they will, soon, but for now they are a welcome addition for diversity.

Tsunderia and west indies provide other alternatives and are their own specific brand of synthesis. And I'm not even discussing the male-chuubas, with the newer ones following the conventional-streamer model instead of the vtuber one.

>>2189331
>and they will, soon

>>2189461
Not even against hololive anon, but you know things don't last forever. But vtubing will definitely stay. What Hololive provided is a blueprint for the future.

>>2189331
>with the newer ones following the conventional-streamer model instead of the vtuber one.
You mean roastie e-thot one?

>>2189707
Paperbag isn't an e-thot, anon.

>>2189821
He hides his face for a reason.

>>2185773
Takahata101 doesn't count.
That's like saying cdawg or pewdiepie are successful vtubers.
If your success didn't come from being a vtuber then you're not a successful vtuber you're a vtuber who is also successful.

Do vTubers need a gimmic? Can you just stream or speedrun or whatever and just be chill and interact with chat? Or do you need to have a 'persona'?

I'm strongly considering throwing my hat in the ring, but I'm hesitant because I'm really not all that interesting outside of speedrunning and being a general otaku.

>>2189821
Paperbag is a whore.

>>2189707
>>2189947
I'm going to reiterate;
Our male chuubas have been successful by being more niche and networking to conventional streamers, while their degree of kayfabe varies, they are nonetheless perform like conventional streamers. Alaric gets raided by DF streamers, Haywire is far away from vtuber culture but doubles down on the kayfabe, Paperbag is a /v/ermin rantsona(sorry bag) you can listen to hours on end, Caleb is a young man you cheer for and unironic existentialism chuuba, and Egg is a fucking egg who plays gsg and roguelikes.

>>2190508
Depends on your goals. If you'd be doing everything you'd be doing, but + streaming, there's no reason not to.
If you expect to be big and live off it - short answer - yes, you need a "gimmick". I'd call it substance or quirk. Otherwise you'd struggle under 10k subs and double-digit viewers for years.

Audience needs something for their attention to catch and stick. Usually it's dumb catchy laugh, accent, slurred speech, cute/funny speech patterns, something with meme or clip potential to help the spread.

Bland chubas don't make it.

>>2190621
>Our male chuubas have been successful
This your measure of success? >>2185936

>>2190508
You don't technically need to, though have a separation between the avatar and irl you is necessary honestly. Real people are boring, which is why VTubers are taking off because they're allowed to not being boring people (themselves). It's preferred to be a bit more than yourself to be noticed.

>>2185773
>Takahata101
I hate this man as a VTuber. Not as a person since I don't know him outside of TFS, but I never liked seeing actual people using their well-established names and reputations to get ahead in a market they had no previous business in.

>>2183685
kek

>>2190717
Those chuubas aren't /here/. And yes, I could consider /our/ male chuubas either successful or getting there because we have different parameters between male and female in the vtuber scene. This is exactly why I emphasize the value of leaning in more to the conventional streamer because it has a bigger market, and does not have the preconception of the vtuber community of cute girl=good. They are certainly doing better than 90% of other males in the scene, and will get better because they have a support structure aka the /west indies/.

>>2190986
>this kills the bat

>>2190986
And still hasn't been able to start any of the actual games for the challenge

>>2191007
>we have different parameters between male and female in the vtuber scene
Thank fuck at least (you) agree with me on that. >>2185447
>>2184930
>>2185936
>You are the ones pretending market for cute streamer girls is somehow equal for cute streaming boys

>>2190508
> Or do you need to have a 'persona'?
No, but all streamers end up having one anyway. Even 3Ds. Comes with the business.

>I'm really not all that interesting outside of speedrunning and being a general otaku.

As it is now male vtubers often perform worse than their 3D counterparts, so take that into account.
Also if you are doing it to collab with your oshi get ready for the hate.

>>2191007
>conventional streamer because it has a bigger market, and does not have the preconception of the vtuber community of cute girl=good
>will get better

>he thinks male game streamers
>will outdo
>cute anime girls playing vidya

https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg

>>2190654
I don't expect (or really want) to 'make it big'. I'd be much happier having a close following to devout weirdos. To that end, I'd probably commission a monster-girl and go full Babiniku. I wouldn't pander to perverts but I would stay 'in-character', much like Ina and Gura do. So I suppose that would be my gimmic, but is that enough? Or am I just making a sexy-monstergirl avatar for my own selfish reasons and thrusting it upon the internet like a reverse rape.
I honestly don't know.

>>2190739
So like... I suppose if I 'act' in character to my avatar that could pass as my gimmic. I'm certainly not moe enough to pull off anything cute.

>>2191371
You don't need to be "cute." You just have to be interesting. Being manly, being weird, being a bit energetic, being vocally expressive, etc. Just provide some entertainment on the side. Try to not be "boring white guy streaming." Have a personality. People stick around if you're approachable.

>>2191364
ogey

>>2191371
1. Who's going to stop you?
2. Close following to devout weirdos you will get if you're a woman, but careful what you wish for.
3. You might not realize if some shit is catchy about you. Ask your acquaintances IRL. Pekora didn't realize her laugh is informational virus before she started streaming.
4. Stay in character, VTubing best selling point is a fairy-tail that suspends viewer dispelief in spending time and money on an average e-thot and instead spending it on anime waifu he oh for so long wanted to interact with.

If you're a male that's going to make himself a female monster girl avatar though:
Kill yourself retard
You gibbering idiot, you slobbering babbon, you turd filled suit of human skin, you pig brained mockery of a multicellular being
Fuck you, fuck yourself in the ass with a rusty spork and die