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What went wrong?

>> No.21479327

>>21479285
>Males
There’s your answer

>> No.21479348

>>21479327
>Males branch run by Hololive
corrected

>> No.21479364

"What went wrong?" should be only asked if Stars got high numbers out of nowhere

>> No.21479387

>>21479285
Japanese males

>> No.21479390

>>21479285
>what went wrong
this is your average holostars debut

>> No.21479785

>>21479285
Dude, you have no idea how hard was for Roberu and company to get to 10k, and these dudes are already starting with 35k, they'll be on 100k by the end of the year, that's the one million of homos.

>> No.21479911

>>21479285
im actually rooting for their success so the low tier holo girls will beg for collabs with them and we'll see the holobronies seethe

>> No.21479994

>>21479285
>males in hololive aka can never interact with 95% of the coworkers
>I assume no one speaks english of them
Dunno how retarded you have to be to become a holostar if you got any talent.

>> No.21479996

>>21479785
It doesn't matter because those are just a bunch of dead subs by redditors who won't watch them past the first 2 weeks at best.

>> No.21480300

>>21479285
They are doing great desu

>> No.21480352

>>21479285
Very standard Holostars

>> No.21480476

>>21479348
>Male branch run by anyone except Nijisanji

>> No.21480530

>>21479348
Too bad Yagoo is stubborn about making Holostars work.

>> No.21480639

They are playing on hard mode.

>> No.21480977

homo idol will only work for chink market, Yagoo san.
just forget your dream about having a big male idol.

>> No.21481056

>>21480352
>Standard

>> No.21481082

>>21479285
hololive doesn't have a huge trans and lgbtq+ bipoc audience like nijisanji

>> No.21481217

>>21479911
Lol never gonna happen, even the lowest tier Holos beat the most successful Holostar after years of work in a single day.

>> No.21481234

>>21479285
I'm shocked one is already on the way to 40k. That's a huge incline from previous abysmal numbers. Maybe in 5 years Yagoo will get it to work.

>> No.21481244

>>21480977
Question are these chink wemen are really thirsty with the boys? Or Is it because chink male has tiny dick?

>> No.21481303

>>21479994
I assume no one speaks English of you

>> No.21481305
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>>21481082
You sure about that?

>> No.21481411

>>21481305
Hot let me follow him/her Twitter

>> No.21481426

>>21480530
What do you think he should do, Oboretai?

>> No.21481437

>>21481305
Moribros is this what we look like...

>> No.21481462

>>21479348
>Males branch run by Hololive and being treated as a 3rd world citizens
corrected

>> No.21481467

>>21479285
I like them all
Rio's a good boy, Fuma has good energy and Gamma is a good talented drawfriend
The ladies can have Uyu, he's full fledged pretty boy boyfriend experience

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21481484

>>21481082

>> No.21481553
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>>21481305
Oh no no no no

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21481608

>>21481305
>True Dead Cucks™ don't even haver their true gender
Kek

>> No.21481637

>>21481305
Dios mio... LA CREATURA!!!

>> No.21481696

>>21479348
>run by Hololive
No retard
Hololive IDOL Project and Holostars are not the same thing. They are separate projects managed by Cover

>> No.21481724

>>21481305
>Le True Deatbeat™

>> No.21481739

>>21481082
It does, they are called deadbeats and chumbuds.

>> No.21481762

>>21479285
>redditors are their biggest supporters
>posts on the subreddit get more likes than they have subs
What do you call this phenomenon?

>> No.21481826

>>21481762
redditors are mostly clipniggers who just follow holos on twitter
all their memes are based around translated clip faggotry

>> No.21481834

>>21479285
Holy newfag. The first three gens had literally 3 view audiences for their debuts and 2 view audiences for some of their streams. Fuck off already.

>> No.21481913

>>21481244
ESLkun... how do you not know what fujos are
they can't get any dick, that's why they go for vtubers

>> No.21482050

>>21480352
This is way better than standard Holostars. None of the other boys had even 1k ccv for their debuts. Reps onegai

>> No.21482072

>>21481762
They never actually supported them. Reddit is only useful for giving pity subs and bitching about "muh idol culture". They dropped Aruran twice like trash, dropped Astel after Luxiem and will continue to do so while complaining about how they don't collab with Hololive.

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>> No.21482215

>>21481082
Is that why homofags are actually pretty chill compared to nijifags?

>> No.21482327

>>21481913
Pardon my english I'm just curious

>> No.21482422

>>21481305
no wonder Calli is disgusted by her deadbeats, this idjit scared her into never opening up to her deadbeats at all

>> No.21482624

>>21482422
I dunno about her, but her roommate has posted positive stuff about those sorts of people

>> No.21482683

>>21479285
>new male wave
>2 of them are girls
???

>> No.21482759

>>21482683
Welcome to current year +7
Take a seat

>> No.21482794

>>21482327
You can see what they look like sometimes through their profile pics when they post in stream chats.
The only way fujos can get affection is virtually

>> No.21482908

>>21481696
Hololive and Holostars are both under Hololive Production.

>> No.21483216

>>21482908
correct and Hololive Production is not Hololive

>> No.21483647

>>21482794
I saw some of them..
I get it now thank you

>> No.21483648

>>21479327
fpbp

>> No.21483685

>>21479348
>Male branch run by Hololive JAPAN
corrected.

>> No.21483854

>>21482683
Uyu was clearly using a voice changer, for when he let his pet bird talk. The head-scratcher is Rio.

>> No.21483913

>>21479348
Sorry I guess they would work better if yagoo forced every holo girl to get fucked by the dudes in hotels as well as pandering to chinese women

>> No.21483978

>>21483685
>Implying StarsEN will be any better

>> No.21484003

>>21479911
average holostars "fan"

>> No.21484031

>>21479285
Literally no one wants this except for outsiders who don't even watch streams

>> No.21484071

>>21479996
This. Redditors are a cancer to hololive.

>> No.21484145

>>21484071
remove "to hololive"

>> No.21484285

>>21481305
>Mori
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>> No.21484381

>>21481305
Average deadbeat.

>> No.21484382

>>21479285
For Stars that's doing quite well, one time Astel was at like 19.5k and did a marathon to get to 20k... he didn't get to 20k

>> No.21484396

>>21479348
>>21479387
>>21479390
>this is your average holostars debut
MaFIA consisting of the pink guy, Oga and Shien only got 10,000 subs each roughly 1 month after debut.

Having more than 30k each, with the top guy getting nearly 40k within a week puts them so far beyond previous holostars generations they're basically on fast-forward.

>> No.21486340

>>21483978
Indeed, who thinks StarsEN will do as good as NijiEN are delusional, they might do better than the JP branch of holostars, but more than that I just don't see it. Willing to be proven wrong, I want everyone to do well.

>> No.21486899

>>21479364
Kek

>> No.21487477

Not having at least one English speaker is their biggest debuff, Yagoo really thinks Japs care about Holostars when the majority of their almost inexistent audience are foreigners. Even Nijisanji managed to get a fluent hafu like Oliver so why can't Cover do the same?. At this point StarsEN look like a flop from the beginning, they can't have the huge chink market that made Luxiem big and Hololive EN would rather cut their dicks than watch male chubas.

>> No.21488025

>>21479285
HoloID will help them to grow

>> No.21488118

>>21486340
Honestly I have a hard time imagining what kind of audience StarsEN will have, especially with how big the Chinese and SEA viewerbases are for NijiEN. You can't assume they'll share the Hololive audience considering how little that translated to the current Stars, and even if the language barrier might be a reason there's a lot of EOPs who watch HoloJP, or at least their music. I said on a thread before that Cover might have a bigger chance by hiring people with skills that aren't that represented on the EN vtuber sphere, namely musical other than singing and gaming, but they'll probably have a hard time getting someone who is good enough with an instrument or someone that have almost pro gaming skills to audition.

>>21487477
>when the majority of their almost inexistent audience are foreigners
It's absolutely not the case. Maybe their subs are largely inflated by them, but the majority of their viewers are domestic. Just look at how fast they dropped Aruran after he stopped doing the morning English streams. Only Astel retained a good portion of his EOP fanbase, but he lost a decent amount of it to Luxiem. Thankfully his Japanese audience did grow, so the loss wasn't that bad.

>> No.21492170

Nijisanji dominates with males, Hololive dominates with females.
This is how it is, plain and simple.
Expect the EN holostars to do nowhere near as well as the Nijisanji EN males have as well.
Honestly cover should just give up bothering with it at this point and focus 100% on the females.

>> No.21492525

>>21479285
Hololive is violently homophobic and that scares away the maletuber fanbase.

>> No.21496711

>>21492525
Based as fuck. Now if only we could scare off all the fat ugly dykes.

>> No.21496730

>>21479285
The Japanese audience doesn't care nearly as much about these queerbaiting faggots as a western audience, and these nobodies aren't reaching out past their island of taken simps.

>> No.21496778

>>21496730
>western audience
Redditors don't actually watch streams. They are dead subs that watch clips at best.

>> No.21497005

>>21479285
Unironically ask reddit. Nobody cares about them here apart from a handful of fujos.

>> No.21497016

Holostars is like a cautionary tale of Yagoo actually being in the mix and everyone should just be thankful that the Youtube algorithm took over for the girls.

>> No.21497060

>>21481305
kek

>> No.21497090

>>21492525
It's not, it's just that Hololive as you would expect is mostly the parts of LGBTQ who are into cute girls or want to be a cute girl. And so aren't interested in men. Hopefully another stars failure and all the yab going on in NijiEN puts the kabosh on a starsEN. No one wants it. No one is asking for it and it hurts the hololive brand if they force them under it instead of being their seperate thing.

Can't have a bunch of 2view mouthbreathers killing the numbers

>> No.21497180

>>21479285
They're doing better than the other holo faggots.

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>>21481305

>> No.21497614

>>21497090
I think a small but dedicated amount of people would actually watch stars en as evidenced by the eop pandering streams the JP stars have done. I think there's a chance they may do better than expected, but I think it's less likely because no chink market and Luxiem already has a dedicated fanbase. You're also very ignorant of NijiEN if you honestly think any recent drama was actually anything huge or needle moving. The chuuba at the center of the drama even told unicorns to either take her non male twitter space stream or fuck off today while recieving plenty of supas and new members.

>> No.21497699

>Encourages males to apply
>You see that they barely did anything to promote Uproar
There's a very real chance that no good talent will audition because of this and StarsEN will flop hard lol

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>>21497090
Oh man poor gay purple man, the yab KILLED HIM.
Stars is a failure because they where treated like shit from the start, no future gens will change this, StarsEN MIGHT have a chance since EOPS are more receptive to men, but it also depends how Cover plans to treat them.
If its the same shit as StarsJP(IE not allowing them to even mention the girls), then they are fucked from the start.

>> No.21497920

That's actually a good start for homostars.

>> No.21498420

>>21484396
>MaFIA consisting of the pink guy, Oga and Shien only got 10,000 subs each roughly 1 month after debut.
Superstar Kaoru was over 10k subs just 2 days after his debut. Oga and Shien took a few weeks.
And of course a debut today has higher numbers than fucking 2 years ago. The Vtuber community in general has grown massively over the years.

Comparing them to ID1 who debuted around the same time as TriNero did, Risu who was the most successful one had 10k after her debut. Now ID3 gets over 200k.
Stars debuting with 30k in 2022 while still an improvement is really not impressive.

>> No.21498777

>>21497873
Only ID treats them like humans. It's a bit fucked up to be under the same production company where most of your coworkers pretend you don't exist.

>> No.21499209

>>21479285
Didn't they JUST debut about a day or two ago? Sheesh let them have more than a few streams first to see if people like them.

>> No.21500254

>>21498777
It's the same shit everywhere. When was the last time top JP Nijimales support their female newbies?

>> No.21501604

>>21499209
They already beat roberu ccv number.

>> No.21501635

>>21498777
Sora has talked with Rob, Oga, and Aru at the very least.
None of the stars have had any issues talking about Foob, Hacha, Sora, Sui from what I've seen.

>> No.21502797

>>21501635
Holostars autism is that they usually avoid talking about any Hololive girl directly, unless the girls talked to them first.
But there's exception like Oga who has no problem doing a Holofes watchalong and Hololive card opening streams where he talks about all of the girls.

>> No.21503087

>>21479285
The japanese hate dudes, also it doesn't help that they keep hiring fags who want to be cute girls instead of just acting like dudes

>> No.21503099

I still feel like HoloStars EN will do great. The JP branch is just cursed.

>> No.21504422

>>21500254
I dunno about newbies but /#/schizos' favorite King helped a couple KR girls incline after the Valorant tournament. Lain is involved in just about fucking everything, the VTA girls are still too fresh for anything spicy to happen I think.

Honestly I don't understand the parallel you're trying to draw but that might just be me. I wouldn't expect senior or top talent to consistently change their schedule to shill newbies in a 100+ man company and I think it's a completely different case from the sort of unspoken but sort of expected rule of segregating the Cover boys and girls.

>> No.21506660

>>21488025
>HoloID will help them to grow
kek, fucking faggot CEO

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>>21497699
>You see that they barely did anything to promote Uproar
How exactly do you want them to promote them?
ID3 got literally nothing from Cover except a fucking tweet and a reddit post.
Uproar gets the exact same as ID3, but then they're also shilled at the HoloExpo event and have billboards in Japan. People are still not going to watch them if they don't care about Holostars.

>> No.21516599

>>21497005
And you think those guys care?

>> No.21518773

>>21507888
That's why uproar is separate from Holostars. And Uproar already doing much much better

>> No.21518931

>>21518773
Probably because two of them are females posing as homos.

>> No.21519719

>>21497873
>IE not allowing them to even mention the girls
I see you're back on your bullshit, Oboretai.

>> No.21519947

>>21479285
The secret is fujobait and british accents

>> No.21524029

>>21479285
Hololive is an idol company.

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