/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21305590
Holy kek

>>21305590
12k likes and only 84 dislikes. Looks like Holobronies spamming her comments did not represent the majority.

>>21305590
POMU IN SHAMBLES

>>21305649
No one use that button since Susan disabled it

>>21305590
Shipper fags is the cancer that's slowly killing vtubing.

>>21305722
Shipfags kill everything they touch.

Incredibly thin skinned of her to do that. There was like a single actual complaint and it was worded respectfully.

>>21305590
what happened?

>>21305590
Whether it be trolls/hate comments or legit criticism, history has shown that Pomu can't handle any heat thrown her way. She's just gonna make people feel justified or that they won by doing this.

>>21305590
HOLY SHIT

>Holofags simultaneously mad uki was around while also trying to ridicule Niji fans about it
Is Hololive in such dire straits that pretending to be niji fans is all they do?

>>21305802
Did you get a screenshot?

>>21305813
Shipper fags want Finana to collab with men unannounced.
Finana's fans rioted over it.

>>21305861
NTA but this was one of the collabs

>>21305590
Wait, what happened?

>>21305590
>84 dislikes
>12k likes
lmao

>>21305813
Pufferfeesh collab became pufferfaggot collab

>>21305904
>collabs
*comments.

>>21305904
Maybe if she saw this and it bugged her enough to turn comments off she'll think twice about pulling that shit again. But she won't because she's a woman

>>21305904
greyname holofags from here that dont even watch her breaking containment to go shitpost in the comemnt section of a niji streamer on throwaway accounts, who'd have thought it

>>21305861

>>21305590
Holy kek nijis finally got mad at something? I guess there's a limit about how much you can shove males for the extra numbers

>>21305590
Wow incredibly thin skinned. If there are any straight men in the Niji fanbase left you should use this to your advantage.

>>21305649
I guess the people in the lazulight thread shitting all over this collab also where these "holobronies" that you assume everyone who disagrees with you is. Face it, the people okay with it where the new fans that came in with the males, where the OG lazufans where fucking pissed.

>>21305590
We did it, reddit!

>>21305802
it was holobronies shitting up her comments section

>>21305915
Dislikes aren't publicly available anymore and this is just showing the ones from people that have the dislike extension, retard

>>21305997
>>21306042
another holofag who would have though it

>>21305813

expected to be a 2 women off-collab. turn out to be an off-pako with 2 women and 1 gay men

>>21305590
NijiEN women became accessories to men as is Niji's tradition.

>>21305997
>Mumei avatar
>More than likely actual name
Holy shit Holofags need to train their crew better

huh and all this time i thought nijikeks were cool with male collabs

>>21306065
Such is the code of Nijisanji.

>>21306042
NijiEN had significant cross pollination with HoloEN at least until Luxiem arrived so it could easily be a true fan. Hell I'm a nijifaggot and the collab was a massive letdown

>>21305590
OH NONONONO NIPPPLEKEKS

>>21306103
see
>>21305997
its falseflaggers

>>21306103
It was Holofags making the comments. See:
>>21305997
>>21306042

>>21305813
Pomu and Finana had sex with Uki on stream

>>21306003
lol if you think those are niji fans getting mad because the comments either have hololive pfps or are greynames

>>21306139
Why would that affect her, then?

>>21305649
Ever since the Discord leak, I've unsubbed to all NijiENs. I would double unsub from cringe shit all-out-war Rainpuff if that were a thing. I suspect many others did the same. I do not know anything that NijiENfags do ever since. This is all on you.

>>21306129
that person in the image has commented only once in Pomus stream, funny that the holobronies first comment is being mad at the collab

>>21306042
>shitting up the comments section
>unity fag actually worded what many people felt pretty tactfully

>>21306139
Holy copium

Holobronies, the cancer of vtubers.

"IT'S HOLOFAGS!!!!" you literally sound like the holofags who immediately deflect to "BUT THE NIJINIGGERS" whenever someone doesn't love something Hololive did. I'm a Pomudachi. The collab was shit. I'm over it.

>>21305915
Nta, but I don’t even use the dislike button now

>>21306186
>I do not know anything that NijiENfags do ever since.
1. ESL reps
2. Then why are you on this thread? Go back to Facebook, SEA-chama.

Unityfags are clowns

>>21306183
It isn't now since she turned the comments off. You just want them on so you can continually berate her while not actually being a fan.

So wait, were these people also mad when Rosemii surprise showed up to Millie/Enna/Elira collab?

>>21306139
>>21306053
>>21306085
>>21306042
If holofags are powerful enough to get pomu to close off comments with comments like that might as well neck yourself now.

>>21305649
The plugin that "restores" them basically just makes a number up from some magic algorithm. I don't know why anyone bothers installing it.

>>21306247
Literally the only negative comments on the page were from throwaway accounts and hololive pfps who the fuck else do you think it is? All the members were positive in the comments.

>>21306247
it was shit, it was terrible and uki being there wouldnt change the fact that Pomu and Finana have 0 charisma to carry a stream with no plans. Doesnt change the fact the holobronies are mad and shitposting because a male was in it and not because the stream was genuinely bad

>>21306296
pomu is shaking and crying right now thinking about all the mean comments everyone made and she'll never get over it

>>21306042
Check his chat logs to see if he's a legitimate fan.

don't shitpost vtuber channel
wtf is wrong with ya'llal'

Is Kiara awake?

>>21305904
>>21305997
No wonder she's friends with Kiara, both of them are thin-skinned emotional wrecks with egos that can't take a cross glance much less uncomfortable criticism.

>>21306328
No its just shit stirrers from here trying to create a drama.

>But is the Nijiniggers
>But is the holobronies
We have reached a point where both niji and Holo fans think that you are only "real" by being a yes man

>>21306341
>from some magic algorithm
Yeah youtube's

>>21306383
>c-check his logs
Is the criticism valid or not?

>>21306042
>>21305904
How bad were the comments aside from these?

>>21305590
NijiEN has always operated under the idea that if you have a complaint to make then you're taking the streams too seriously. It's probably just Holobronies spamming, but they really do have a professionalism problem in regards to taking constructive criticism.

>>21306383
hes not, its a shitposter that comment was his first ever comment for Pomu

>>21306383
he wants a lazulight members only collab. this is somehow not valid?

>>21306378
She's in the vent discord
>>21306414
I don't think youtube fags are as tribalistic as the /v/ retards we have here are.

>>21306275
Because I can't block out every single mention of NijiENs from appearing on the catalogue as I can on other platforms. Maybe don't shit up the catalogue, Nijicunt.

>>21306418
Only for dislikes that were archived before they were disabled publicly, so certainly not this stream. The plugin doesn't scrape data from youtube.

>>21306339
>powerful enough
Don't play power games with real power anon, you've been holocausted once

What a stupid shitstorm. The takeaway they'll probably get from this is to announce collabs with the dudes ahead of time so original Lazulight and Obsydia fans don't even bother getting their hopes up.

>>21306149
oh they fucking 100%

>>21306513
the ventrilo discord?

>>21306477
Just checked it wasn't

>>21306439
not that bad, the bad comments were drowned out by the green member comments. its weird that a few comments caused pomu to close the comments section

>hololive reject blaming hololive fans with no proof instead of it being a shit collab.
That's some desperation your pulling their Pomu. You used to be one of the good ones. Now your grasping at straws to hold relevance as you fade into obscurity as one of the NijiEN pioneers. What a sad fate you had to go through.

rip timestamps.
anyone know when this happened?
https://twitter.com/UncleBiff424/status/1508645384272457730?t=1mK5RiA7IfMA_tHz-NYKZA&s=19

>>21306341
For post-disable videos, it collects dislikes from people who have the plugin installed. There's literally no other way.

>>21305590
>>21305997
This is a legitimate critique though. They could at least inform their viewers that a male would be present so we wouldn't waste our times clicking. I don't get why they're so persistent in doing impromptu collabs all the time.

>>21306574
oh, then someone was spreading rrats in the nijien thread shouldve checked myself before adding fuel to the fire

>>21306418
You have no clue how anything works. That's pretty cute.

>>21306550
That's the best case we can hope for sadly. At least we wouldn't get excited for nothing.

>>21306574
Yes it was. The guy has literally never commented in her chat once.

>>21306550
That sounds like a good thing, no? If they're going to do a surprise collab then all guests should be a surprise, not just mystery penis for the 6th.

>>21306553
Any off collab with feesh is fucking 110%

>>21306563
the discord to vent in anon, don't worry your english might improve next year.

>>21306537
You realize if pomu ever does collab with kiara that the KFP will have her bending over backwards to please them. As long as we're both on the same page of you getting the back seat.

I gotta wonder why Nijisanji even bothered making a bunch of female-only gens before they released Luxiem and Noctyx. Were they trying to do the Hololive thing and then changed strategy halfway through?

>>21306706
my english has stayed at this level for 23 years by now anon, it's not improving

>>21306592

>>21306661
No it wasn't I'm looking at it right now.

>>21306042
>Only Holobronies are the ones that have standards by caring about Pomu and Finana doing false advertisement about an off-collab
I don't think that is the point you want to make

>>21306765
Yes it was I am looking at it right now.

>>21306592

>>21306738
Their company vision is entirely watching what other companies are doing and hope they can copy that trend fast and accurately enough to catch some of the spillover dollars.

The short answer is yes

lmao even vshoujo would think twice before doing offcollab with a man. w/e nijicucks won't mind

>>21306439
I'm pretty sure she was deleting the negative ones so who knows? I only got to see a couple.

>>21306756
Pomu confirmed for posting here right now. Everyone say hi to pomu as she cries to males who stole her limelight.

>>21305590
Kek, It will never stop since that is the only thing that makes them relevant

>>21306738
Yes, they saw Myth blow up and wanted in on that shit so they didn't bother with mixed gens

>>21306793
You must have mispelled the name.

>>21305590
Pomu's fanbase is infested with holofags because early on she was shilled as the closest to Myth. If a gay man and a scuffed collab filters them than good riddance.

>>21306621
my wild guess would be that it worked super well for Mysta/Nina collab, so no wonder someone else jumped the occasion

>>21306621
The one with Mumei is not though, he literally took the bait being posted in NijiEN and posted in the comments section. It was never a lazulight collab, and people were not hyped for a long awaited stream between Pomu and Finana other than shippers since Finana sucks in collabs. Anons were hyped to see who the inevitable surprise guest would be. Valid criticism would be how they literally prepared nothing and just winged it, leading to a shit collab

>>21306916
No I haven't.

>>21306752
To be fair anon, I thought the same thing too. We're boomers for still thinking vent means ventrilo

>>21306808
It was scuffed as shit and had a guest many didn't want nor were able to avoid because they didn't tell anyone beforehand. Even Uki being a dude aside, that shit's just disrespectful. Let people know what they're tuning into. Nijicucks will roll over like a dog and say it's fine and it's totally better this way like they always do, though.

>>21306550
What's wrong with that lol?

>>21306738
the plan was always to have males anon, they just played it safe for the first group of EN which were made up of gen 1 and 2, after they debuted they opened the male auditions along side female ones.
i think the reason why there hasnt been a mix yet is because they wanted to have 1/1 ratio of the genders.

>>21306923
Nobody complained about it when Rosemi joined the all girls off collab, nobody complained about it when Nina then copied it for hers, only this one its a problem to have a surprise guest apparently...

>>21306042
Are these holobronies in the room with us right now anon?

>>21307044
Because KFP Pomudachi only watch Pomu, everything they say about NijiEN literally only applies to Pomu

>>21307044
The situation is a bit different because people have wanted to see a Pufferfeesh off collab since they started hitting it off, and Uki is one of the new members and honestly a pretty boring one, so he felt like dead weight that took attention away from what people wanted to see. If someone more liked such as Luca was the special guest I don't think their would be as many complaints, or better yet have no special guest and hang out with Uki on your own time

>>21307095
More than likely they were lurking the catalog for drama and saw the bait threads about it and decided to have some fun shitposting. So instead of dealing with falseflaggers shitposting in her comments while she is trying to have a vacation Pomu just turned them off and everyone will move on in a few days to the next drama because they dont actually care to begin with.

>>21307044
Because Pomu and Finana have a long history together and people where excited to see them interact in person for the first time. I don't understand why you people act like it's some crime to be disappointed when you're promised a thing and then you get a different thing that wasn't what you wanted.

>>21306998
>three waves of all females
>decide it’s finally time for benis with your 4th wave
Has Anykara ever done this before in any of their branches?

>>21306961
anon have you forgotten that there were sudden collabs all the time even before the males came around?
you were never going to avoid the males when they collabed randomly all the time and some times with other branchs males.
stop being a crybaby because a guy appeared on stream.

>>21306924
>It was never a lazulight collab, and people were not hyped for a long awaited stream between Pomu and Finana

>>21306806
>Inb4 Hololive copied Nijisanji holobrony

So does just wanting to watch cute girls do cute stuff make you a unicorn now? That word has really lost all meaning

>>21307044
yeah, I know, most of the people were reacting super positive towards surprise Vox/Ike. what I would bet on is probably the fact that Pomu/Finana collab as it was announced gave a wholly different vibe than Mysta/Nina, so lumping them together seems crazy to me. what I tried to highlight was the "mysterious surprise male guest" that worked so well for Mysta/Nina, while for Pomu/Finana clearly did not due to the different dynamic of announced collab

>>21307210
Nobody was disappointed for those other collabs when they were promised just Millie, Enna and Elira who have been friends longer than anyone else in NijiEN, or when they were promised just Nina and Mysta and got something different.

>>21307228
You need all 3 members for it to be a lazulight collab, and people in the nijien thread were more hyped for the surprise guest. you wouldnt know since you spend all your time in hlgg instead of nijien

>>21306738
because anycolor are a bunch of fucking cunts so they played the very safe route of 'all cute girls' at first in order to build the fanbase, then drop the males later when the base is already built up with enough fanboys that will accept the new direction to offset the fans that drop off

>>21307185
So why'd she spend the first few hours deleting comments instead of just instantly turning off comments. Stop making rrats.

>>21307255
>Mad about Uki because m*le = unicorn
>Mad about Uki because he's boring = not unicorn
>Mad about Yuki because you only want Pufferfeesh = not unicorn

Feels like an all out war.

>>21307298
>we were excited for a male to show up to make these girls watchable

>>21307228
Where does it say Lazulight?

it feels like it's an all-out cuck now

>>21307322
>open up your phone delete a shitpost comment
>another one pops up delete that one
>see the same guy complaining about his comment being deleted fuck this lets just turn it off

We are having this thread over literally 2 or 3 negative comments in a sea of positive ones anon. There wasnt some mass of them. Most comments loved it.

>>21307265
Because rosemi was a good addition and since they already had elira in it (past lives not counting) its not like it had a theme to it other than girls sleepover. So rosemi wasn't out of place.

Nobody likes Nina so literally anybody taking time away from her is a good thing.

Meanwhile nobody likes uki. He has nothing to do with pomu and finana. Pomu spent the past 3 days hyping up how close she and finana are being. Even in the video name it's tagged with pomus and finanas shipping tag.

>>21306172
You do realize that outside of this place most people aren't tribalfagging on a regular basis right? If it's just holobrony boogeymen, then why don't you see this type of stuff in every male collab video? Obviously this particular stream rubbed some the wrong way whether you want to admit it or not

>>21307265
Except Pomu and Finana's friendship was developed naturally on stream for everyone to see over the history of HoloEN. We where told that they where good friends, but we're naturally not gonna be as invested in it because we haven't been following their friendship for as long. Plus, Rosemi is an established member who has been around for awhile and has synergy with the others. Uki is a new member who hasn't interacted with them much at all.

So she's going to go on a "break" right? This could be something.

>>21307389
There's two statements in that quote retard/esl
>it was never lazulight
>no one was hyped for finana and pomu anyway
2/3rds is close enough.

>>21307255
Finana is not a cute girl, and you're the first to bring up unicorns in this thread. Hating the collab because its shit is fine, hating it because a male specifically is stupid

No better than holobronies

>>21306573
Most streamer/youtuber situations are like this.
>99% of all comments are undying support and blind love from people saying you're perfect
>every top comment is praise to high heavens
>go out of your way to sort by new
>scroll down until you find a post that's not praise
>cry
I do not understand how these people lived day to day before they had a fanbase that would praise them.

imagine getting Finana or Pomu as sloppy seconds. shit makes me diamonds. how many times did you think they had sex afterwards?

>>21305590
I'm sorry you couldn't pretend to be upset in the comments. Try sending her a marshmallow instead

>>21305590
>bait a Pomu/Finana offcollab
>there's also some lean-haired faggot in it
GEE I WONDER

>>21307410
That's because most of the negative ones were automatically being filtered. You retards can't see them but Pomu can

>>21306592
Nigga learn English

So NijiEN is essentially a guide on how to not run a vtuber company right? They have more yabs than the small corpos.

>>21307510
hey its you again 2/3 anon, didnt you concede that its not a lazulight collab already? by your logic ennas offcollab stream is ethyria offcollab since it was 1/2 ethyria

>>21306738
They probably didn't get enough qualified male applicants from the first auditions, consider the fact that they had to explicitly state they were looking for male applicants in the second round of auditions beause the EN community is dumb as fuck.

>>21307216
again 1/2 gens were made up of the first auditions results, which were trying to set up a market based on what was working in the EN space.
the 3rd and 4/5th gens auditions happened at the same time.
theres been a few female only waves afaik and probably one or 2 male only waves
>>21307314
anon thats how businesses work, thats literally how holo got to where it is now, they copied nijisanjis 2D gimmick to build a fanbase and then did their own thing after they built up the brand.
remember sora roboco and miko are 3d vtubers because of kizuna ai and friends but with gen 1 onward holo became 2d focused because nijisanji was the big popular ones then

>>21307540
It makes sense to me that the praise turns into a blur of sappy nonsense eventually. They seek out the negative comments because they're more likely to be sincere feedback. It's not interesting to read 400 comments saying "I love you Pomu, great stream, thanks!"

>>21307334
Let us not forget the fourth;
>if you aren't a unicorn, yes you are because I'm going to call you one anyway
Regardless, it doesn't matter. Unicorns usually don't make a big fuss, they just drift away. This is just another wave of shitposting that we'll have to put up with for a day or so until someone else does something stupid enough for the catalog to be talking about that instead.

>>21307529
The collab was heavily advertised with teetee yuribait. A male in it instantly destroys that. A girl could still have some 3 way yuri tension. A gay male has none of that.

Pomu is a weeb and an idolfag, she knows full well what she was doing with those tweets and comment beforehand.

>>21307575
>the comments were totally there they're just invisible
Yeah sure in your delusions.

>>21307638
>everyone on /vt/ is the anon that lives in my head
didn't read past the first four words.

>>21307550
Thanks Pomu, but your Maros are closed. Mind opening them up?

I'm new to vtubers. So the general consensus is that Hololive is a sol anime while Nijisanji is a twitch stream?

>>21307660
Sure. It fries your brain to read too many positive comments back to back, and it makes them worthless. But to go out of your way to find the negative comments when you're incapable of reading them without getting tilted is retardation.

>>21307698
its not lazulight unity if you miss a single member, just because you dont care for elira doesnt mean lazulight can suddenly shrink to 2 people

>>21307733
Yes

>>21307175
This doesn’t even make sense when the SS posted was a Hooman anon…
And we literally can’t see other comments so it only makes sense to assume it was a mix or even only hoomans if you wanna be a retard and blame 1 group like that

>>21307733
Even twitch vtubers are smart enough to know that mixed off collabs in shady hotels are a bad idea

>>21307733
More or less accurate, yes.

>>21307733
No, NijiEN is sol with male while Hololive is sol with less males

>>21306025
>OG Lazufans mad about males
Then you clearly aren't Nijisanji fans. I hope all you EOPs fuck off to a corporation that panders to you instead of getting mad when Nijisanji is Nijisanji.

>>21307733
Yes Nijisani is basically OTV without 3DPD

>holobronies who don't even watch Pomu raid her comments
>she closes them
>holobronies mad, make passive aggressive threads about it

>>21307733
They're all sol anime

>>21307698
>didn't read past the first four words
Which means I don't want to defend my point and disregard everything contrary of it.

>>21307733
hololive is the disney channel while nijisanji is japanese tv

>>21307733
shit comparison

>>21307805
Most NijiEN fans weren't originally fans of NijiJP. It's extremely unusual to regularly watch streamers when you can't understand their language, it's much less common than you think outside of /jp/.

>>21307815
>>21307792
>>21307774
>>21307761
you have never watched a single NijiEN stream and wouldn't know that NijiEN is also a sol just not the yuribait kind

>>21307805
They aren't actually though. Lazulight has always collabed with males. They're debut was with males. They collabed with males when it was just them and all the way up until males got introduced to their banch. They have been collabing with males multiple times a week for 3-4 months now. Anyone still watching them at this point doesn't give a fuck about males.

I don't care if they collab with males I just can't stand the, literal, faggots that fill the entire fucking roster making the stream unwatchable as you listen to their limp-wristed anal-gaping voice.

>>21307805
Yeah you're right. If we where Nijisanji fans we would have harassed and stalked Pomu for this bait and switch.

>>21307865
This is nijicope.

>>21307841
>everything bad is caused by holobronies on 4chan
Take your fucking meds

>>21307912
Not really, shitposting on /vt/ is funner

>>21307541
As many times as Uki brought condoms

>>21307410
So 3 negative comments ruin an entire sea of positive comments? Sounds retarded

>tfw you added a small comment about not approving of the collab's surprise guy but still liked it
>tfw you hurt your oshi
GODDAMIT

>>21307841
"Holobronies" has been said 14 times in this nijisanji thread. I'm beginning to think some of you may have an obsession.

>>21307912
Not a sol, more like a ecchi anime

>>21307938
well thats true, shitposting is indeed funnier that any stream

>>21307841
rent free nipplefaggot

>>21307912
Niji is just twitch streamers, its fine when the streamers aren't outright whores, but with women thats what they default on to be popular. Their company needs to start hiring people with some sort of personal standards, and not the nearest trash hooker

>>21307733
>Hololive is a sol anime
not for long

>>21305590
CONDOM MONEY FOR POMU

>>21307932
You're right, everything is caused by BOTH Holobronies and Nijiniggers.

>>21307733
Yes, surprisingly accurate.

>>21306247
It was not even a hateful comment.

>>21307733
Hololive is basically the Marvel universe. Overhyped as fuck.
Nijisanji is a stepping stone to small corps and indies, where the real soul is found.

>>21307912
>NijiEN is also a sol
Yeah, the kind of SoL where the vacation episode turns into a threesome

>>21307912
SoLs are idealistic depictions of life and nijisanji is a constant nightmare of zoomer memes.

>>21307805
If crossick had a collab and labeled if a crossick stream, then invited males to come in. People would have been upset too.

Pufferfeesh was the name they came up with for shipping the 2 of them. Pufferfeesh was in the name of the video. Everything leading up to the video was teetee yuribait.
The collab itself was a 3some with a guy.

I dont see what's confusing about why people are upset at the bait and switch. Even the nijien general was filled with posts talking about how pomu and finana were fucking.

The implications were obvious and while it would be obviously fake either way, don't give people expectations and reverse it in the worst ways possible.

For reference
>>21283256

>>21307966
It's a manufactured drama over nothing, like the chat logs thing but with even less material. Turn the comments off people get bored because they didn't actually care to begin with drama over.

>>21307993
not even, in collabs its them just having fun. the coombaiting from the feesh and males is ususally only done in solo streams

>>21307733
More like hololive is a shounen anime - the girls accomplish dreams and have contents based on arcs
Meanwhile Nijisanji is a SOL - fun streams that make you laugh but never lead to something even bigger

feels like an all out cuck cope right now lol

>This thread
>This “”drama””
I’m completely out of the loop and a tourist to Niji. I’ll be honest, I don’t watch them at all, but from the thread what basically happened was

>You’re excited for (I don’t know), a chocolate vanilla mix ice cream cone
>You wait a week for to go to the shop to get one
>When you go there you get your ice cream
>Mid way into eating it, you realize they put strawberry ice cream in the middle
>It’s not what you asked for nor wanted and nor was it advertised as this, but if you complain you now suddenly hate strawberry ice cream when in reality you just wanted 2 flavors

Can someone explain how being mad about false advertising is… a bad thing? I’m sure most people don’t hate whatever his name is like you all want to pretend, but they also didn’t want to watch him, just Pomu and Finana, right?

>>21308031
Hololive is like a 5 star restaurant. You know you're going to get quality since they're the best.
Nijisanji is that local diner near your place. It's good, and you'll say it's the best but let's be real it's not the best the world has to offer.

>>21307733
And Holostars is suffering porn

>>21305590
Ugh why did she have to Collab with uki at all. I wouldn't be upset over this Collab if it was a dude with even a pinch more charm than uki but holy fuck he's insufferable

>>21308031
Didn't you fags used to post here about how your talents were on shitty ramen packets or something? Now you want to be the indie darlings what the fuck happened?

>>21308143
>Food analogy
Not reading that shit

>>21307733
I've seen a lot of people lately comparing Niji to OTV which I also agree with.
Niji is generally a lot more explicit in what they talk about and they very frequently hop into each others streams.
Niji is also pretty free to do or become what they want unlike Holo where there is an expectation that they'll work toward idol or some other idol adjacent goal.

>>21308143
>nijicucks falsflagging as holobronie tourist trying to pretend its a nothing burger by saying its an ice cream
The absolute state of nijicucks

>>21306341
You are able to see the old dislikes in older videos because Youtube only hide it but the new visible dislikes in new videos are only from the people with the plugging. If you click dislike without the plugin then it won't count it. In op's pic we see only 84 because they are using the plugging but hundreds more without the plugging could have clicked dislike but we can't see it.

>>21308143
Because thats not how Niji works, there being something extra in the Icecream is expected and liked by the regulars, only people new to the shop would be outraged

>>21307841
I guess Holofags lives rent free in Nijiniggers and Nijikeks mind LMAO

>>21308143
b-b-but surprise collabs have been a thing in forever and you just hate guys shut up holobrony!!!!

I guess you could say the NijiEN fanbase is like an all out war right now.

>>21308143
Replace the strawberry with an aids needle and you have a pretty good analogy.

>>21308167
No it's not. It's overhyped avengers shit. Kronii, Sana, Mumei, Kiara. That's not quality. You only think they're worth watching because you've literally never seen anything else.

Nijisanji is soul as fuck. But smaller corporations are even more soul.

>>21308229
I mean they have been Lazulight was literally doing them in their first couple of weeks.

>>21308104
Thanks, now I need bleach for my eyes.

>>21308031
If hololive is Marvel how come they have the Batman on their side?

>>21308167
Which would be fine if the people who frequent that diner didn't plaster the entire city with posters about how it's better than Michelin star restaurants and that it earns more money than Mcdonalds and burger King combined

>>21308274
Rimjob poster, is that you?

>>21307733
More accurately, Hololive is an idol anime while Nijisanji is a western cartoon.

>>21308225
That's not how niji works its how it sometimes works with a certain subset of their streamers. But typically when they say they're doing X they're just doing X without any suddenly surprises.
>but pomu in minecraft
Thats because minecraft was built for that. You don't get pomu randomly showing up in selens apex streams.

>>21308234
its just KFP being purged from Pomudachis a 2nd time, the whole fanbase doesn't care at the end of the day other than shitposters ruining the thread

>>21308036
The Eroge H Mo Game kind?

Imagine if someone gets suspended over this lmao

>>21308274
Every singe one of your examples has high quality than your niji whores

>>21308274
>t./v/trarian

>>21307733
Hololive has an extremely toxic fanbase that has been groomed to think that hololive is the only thing that you should watch. So they shittalk all other corporations despite never having watched a moment of them. Literally the worst fanbase.

>>21308143
I didnt mind the guy but it was just bad its like if the icecream cone was stale had been dropped on the ground and picked back up. You can forgive the additonal flavor but not the rest.

>>21308031
you have to be a mentally ill dramafag/groomer to actually want to watch indies. corpos exist for a reason.

>>21308234
The actual thread has more or less moved on already though. Just these catalog drama threads still going now. Then they will die and everything moves on like nothing happened.

>>21308167
>Hololive is like a 5 star restaurant
Mori would like a word with you

>>21308357
Noone will get suspended because no rules were broken.
But I sure hope pomu takes a "break" over it.

>>21308357
this is fanbase war shit, it doesnt really involve the livers themselves unless the livers involve themselves somehow

>>21308274
>chooses 3/4 streamers who are better than any niji

>>21306042
I swear, I've seen this comment /here/ not too long ago.

>>21306103
the unicorns finally revolted

>>21308357
Of course no one is getting suspended, that's stupid. The reception has been somewhat negative but no rules were broken or anything like that

>>21308031
Ahh yes my most soulful chuuba the vtweeter

>>21308378
Pomu literally started as an indie you moron. Her streams were soul as fuck, in fact people still do watchalongs of them today.

>>21307803
So Hololive is Yuru Yuri while Nijisanji is Free!

>>21308357
No en regardless of what company they work for gets suspended publicly. Humiliation is for japs only.

>>21308364
thats just holobrony cope, watching holoEN is like watching a wall, nothing but bland and boring. At least Nijis like Rosemi, Enna or Selen have personality

>>21308376
>I swear if you watch my streamers they're better than yours!

>>21308410
>Disables comments
Seems like Pomu might never do an off collab again kek

>>21308234
Nah only in your schizo holobrony mind. This is even less of a yab than the discord leak.

>>21308418
So let me get this straight. You would rather watch a Sana stream than Selen? You would rather watch Kiara than Elira? You have to be mentally ill to have that opinion. Again the issue here is that you actually haven't watched these other vtubers. I have watched both.

>>21308143
Change strawberry with peanuts and you have some people who have nuts allergies mad

>>21308378
Indies are great, especially in the 50-100 view range. They're usually as good as the corpo streamers but you can actually talk to them.
I really like the mid tier art chuubas. Usually pretty skilled and can talk about art stuff with them while I draw and watch them draw.

>>21308394
Maybe. But I've seen this sentiment building up since the males debuted and every other stream became a surprise collab. It'll probably die down, but I expect it to rev up even harder the next time something like this happens.

>>21308143
I don't know what any of the comments said, and I'm not a unicorn, but what I disliked about this offcollab
>a lot of scuff, to the point where the stream isn't enjoyable because of it
>finana and pomu don't really get any time to themselves, they're trying to get the stream started, scuff happens, they're DCing, and after like the third DC where they were barely into the first story they share, surprise, Uki is here
>Uki being a man doesn't ruin the collab for me, what does is that Finana and Pomu don't know him as long/as well as they know each other, and so you have Pomu being high energy, Finana a mix, and Uki being more reserved
>a lot of silence during the stream, shit mic, you could hear the aircon, don't really talk much and just go straight into (muted) mario party
>people that wanted a Pomu and Finana stream understandably mad
This had the potential to be a fucking wonderful off-collab, but I think only the streamers had a good time. Even the fucking Nina and males off-collab was better. Any random Enna/Millie off-collab is better. And this isn't even close to how good the Besties off-collab was.

Fuck this

>>21308488
Unityfags did it again!

>>21308274
Are you lost or something?

>>21307841
>unicorns are minority, 4chan has no power
>*something bad happens*
>it must be the hacker know as 4chan
every fucking time

>something happens in nijien
>ton of catalog bait threads show up shitting on them
>its full of holofags that dont even watch them shitting on nijisanji
>the main thread for nijien already stopped posting about it and is just discussing other stuff normally
everytime

>>21308473
That's a good point and I think that's true. Announcing the suspension of an EN talent would just backfire, the culture is too different

>>21308422
because its been posted here a couple times by falseflaggers complaining that a lazulight collab without elira was ruined

>>21305590
POMU RAINPUFF MORE LIKE BOLLYWOOD PAINBUFF

>>21308446
Pretty much, hopefully nijisanji will force or encourage the girls to leave so they can make themselves the namebrand of male vtubing in the west while hololive can be the female brand.

>>21308498
I've watched both and I'd rather watch Kronii, Mumei or Kiara when they're on than any niji unless it's a special occasion.

manufactured seanigger drama

>>21308591
You're retarded. Your opinion is tribalfag nonsense that is worth nothing.

>>21308552
Yes western whores must be treated like queens.

>>21308498
Oh no, you dared to insinuate that Kiara is a bad streamer. Here comes the KFP Defense Force.

>>21308554
>the main thread for nijien has already stopped posting about it
>the hugbox does hugbox things
Shocking.

nijikeks...

>>21308554
Sticking your head in the dirt isn't winning anything you know?

>>21305590
Does it really matter that they invited the biggest queer in nijiEN to their off collab? It’s not like he’s fucking either of them rofl. Shippers deserve the rope

>>21308473
Has there been an issue in the EN sphere yet that would have resulted in a suspension if they were a JP?

>>21308554
The main nijien thread is basically just /hlg/-lite-fujo edition at this point.
It's shit. Back in the loe days it was decent, but now it's garbage and any complaints about anything gets a bunch of land whales calling you a unicorn.

>>21308498
Mumei is pretty funny and Kiara genuinely cares about streaming and idolshit unlike most of her genmates, she just has an annoying voice

The tiny minority of people who give a shit should rightfully be ignored (you guys). After all, why should any streamer spend even a modicum of effort appeasing the most mentally ill 1% of their audience? The outrage that crops up here has pretty much proven time and time again that you people really have no power at all. Western Vtubers should and will move in the direction of normal streamers, who fully embrace the power disparity between themselves and their viewers and who weaponize their normie majority in order to mock and alienate the over-attached losers in their audience (you guys). This is ideal and righteous.

>>21308624
Pot, meet kettle.

>>21308648
If I have a dick I will penetrate any hole I see

>>21307841
CURSE YOU HOLOBRONIESSS AIIEEEE

>>21308633
KFP don't do anything besides find streamers worse than her so they can elevate their dumb chicken.

>>21308498
>You would rather watch a Sana stream than Selen?
I dunno who that is/
>You would rather watch Kiara than Elira?
Any day of the week
>You have to be mentally ill to have that opinion.
Trying to argue over who people like to watch is inherently a characteristic of the mentally ill.

>>21308634
i can tell you dont actually frequent that thread if you think its a hugbox, they shit on girls for not making tweets

>>21308488
Nah, what she will be most likely doing is preparing something for the collabs since the reason it was shit(not because a male was in the collab like holobronies are saying) was because Finana and Pomu have no charisma and no chemistry with each other. The collab was awkward and the resorted to playing mario party to fill in the gaps, she will most likely collab with Rosemi and Selen at some point

>>21308648
Maybe because it isn't about whether or not he's a fag. You guys are just really focused on that when if you actually read you see people just felt misled.

>>21308554
The lazulight general was fucking pissed. You can pretend like it's holobronies all you want, but lots of real NIJIEN fans where disappointed with today's events.

>>21308225
I thought that ''the way of nijisanji'' was that you don't need to follow all vtubers because they need to accelerate, so why is nijien trying to force everyone into all streams?

>>21306186
>I suspect many others did the same
whatever your manys are, they never did a dent
considering that a couple of individuals in that leak led for you to unsub from all nijiEN, pretty much means you didn't watch them, your deadsub was worthless even before the leak

>>21308498
Yes I would rather watch Kiara than Elira, but I would also rather watch Selen than Sana

Why is that so hard to understand?

>>21308675
My opinion is that there are many Nijisanji streamers that are better than Hololive streamers. And there are many Nijisanji streams that are better than the concurrent Hololive streams. That anon's opinion is that you should only ever watch hololive 100% of the time and never even try watching anything else because increasing Yagoo's profits is the only thing that matters in the universe. That's his opinion.

His opinion is worth nothing. I watch small corpos, I watch Indies, I watch Nijisanji. He only watches one corporation.

Why are we mad about nijis Collabing with males?

>>21308673
Yeah man tell that to the developers of World of warcraft!

>>21308659
Compare the things that got JPs suspended prior to en to dramas I'm not gonna play your gay game of trying to find something you personally think is worthy of suspension.

>>21308747
The thread that normally has a few posts an hour where the IP count suddenly increased by 10+ people at the hint of drama in the collab. Yes I am sure lots of people that frequent that thread regularly were actually mad and it wasn't just people coming for the drama.

>>21308673
Wrong. The schizos will prevail.

>>21305590
>advertise an offcollab with heavy yuribaiting
>a man joins in
Doesn't matter if he's gay he just killed it for a lot of people lol

>>21308703
Yes, and /hlgg/ shits all over each other, yet active criticism on an individual chuuba just gets cummed on. Given, at least the average Nijifan knows benis is a requirement, but the types of argumentative used against naysayers is the same, just flavored differently.

>>21308776
>That anon's opinion is that you should only ever watch hololive 100% of the time and never even try watching anything else because increasing Yagoo's profits is the only thing that matters in the universe. That's his opinion.
Oh shit you don't have basic comprehension skills, I'm sorry.

>>21308802
it's partly Holo tribalfags jumping at drama and partly retards thinking NijiEN wouldn't be like NijiJP

>>21308673
>pomu collabs with Kiara
>kfp now outnumber you
>she bends over backwards to please them
>your opinion as the minority is rightfully ignored
See how it works out for you.

>>21308802
scroll up

>>21307652
I thought the first audition was explicitly marketed for female applicants?

>>21308498
Yes, yes I would. How is that even a question?

>>21308838
Because the general thread is useless and I dont normally post on the side threads unless there's something I actually want to talk about without fujos immediately spamming yaoi and calling people incel unicorns.

>>21308633
>MUH KFP
RUMAO absolutely rent-free

>>21308838
>IP count increased while the stream the thread was about was live
Damn. That's crazy. I'd tell you to neck yourself but I don't think you can actually get any more braindead.

>>21308591
well thats just your preference rather than indication of quality, Most of HoloEN bores me and Rosemi tops them all in my eyes, thats just me being subjective. Doesn't mean ill go around saying Rosemi is better than Hololive, just that I like her more.

Didn't Hololive literally have an offcollab recently where the guests where the guests were surprises?

>>21308802
The issue in this case was
1) Uki is boring as fuck and didn't add anything to the collab, in fact he subtracted a lot.
2) This was advertised as a girls-only collab, they even did Yuribaiting in the thumbnail. There was no indication a male would be in the stream whatsoever
3) They didn't plan the collab very well and didn't really have anything to do.

Uki is gay as fuck. Nobody really cares that he offcollabed with their oshi

>>21308751
I think that's pretty much just Niji JP which is pretty much too big for both the viewers and the livers to keep up with everything.
ID is pretty close and EN is still small enough that they can be pretty close.
If they continue to debut ENs at the same rate they have been though, I could see it becoming more like JP.

>>21308895
All female Avatars, it allowed males as females

>>21308927
you good anon?

>>21308923
The stream was live for a good while before that without those new IPs suddenly showing up all at the same time. Try not to talk about things you have no idea about.

Hi Pomu!!!!

>>21308926
Good for you.

>>21308838
You're just being ridiculous. Keep ignoring everyone who disagrees with you "not real" fans, that's great for the community.

>>21308927
The entire collab was a surprise dumbass. It wasn't framed as an intimate 1 on 1 collab for weeks to get people hyped up and then a mystery nigger devoid of personality got inserted for no reason.

>>21308802
Uki had steaming hot sex with pomu and finana and we didn't even get to watch

>>21308938
Yeah the main seethe is that the collab was just bad, poorly planned and no chemistry to make it bearable to watch.

Unicorn posting does make it more fun though

>>21308938
Ya, some of those are valid reason to be upset. Just that shitposters are using this as an opportunity to shit on males in general

>>21308970
>go to the drama board
>get angry about drama
It's like you choose to be upset.

>>21308902
Selen is literally the most entertaining livestreamer I have ever seen in my life. Male or female. I'm not always in the mood to watch her, because she's so high energy. Sometimes I need a softer stream. But to insinuate that she's worse than every single hololive vtuber is.....ridiculous. Actually many of Hololive's hiring decisions have been lackluster at best.

>>21308938
Okay makes sense. I know uki is fucking boring most of the time in collabs. He's still opening up tho. I would be kinda disappointed too

>>21308994
gatekeeping is good

>>21309048
Go back flopgur

>>21307298
>>21307389
>moving goalposts to defend the cuckening
the absolute state of nijikeks

>>21308970
Yeah, because I'm sure you were fucking counting the whole time during the stream just for this occasion. Normal thing to do. Stop talking out of your ass, retard.

>>21309072
Objectively yes but also way too late.

>>21309105
Fulgur is doing the best in noctyx tho

>>21308926
>Rosemi tops them all
Phrasing

>>21309150
At least you admit that you don't know what you are talking about. It was literally pointed out in that thread as it was happening.

>>21308938
Summed it up pretty well. I didn't give a shit about being cucked, it is Nijisanji after all, but the collab was mediocre at best.

>>21308818
I wasn't trying to make a personal judgement on whether I thought something was worthy of suspension.
I was wondering if an EN has done something similar to a JP that got suspended.
I know of some of the suspensions and drama but I'm not going to claim that I know everything that has happened.

>>21309048
The males do deserve a lot of shit.
I have plenty of valid complaints about them as do many others.
Their debut timing completely squashed any momentum ethyria had. The constantly (like mandated) shilling for the male streams during debut really made all the previous branches second class. And even to this day the girls are always mentioning the male streams and events, while the men just ignore anything on the girl side and never advertise for them.

Hell the males even get their own mods while the girls have to mod their own chats.

There's huge favoritism that goes 1 way and it feels like the girls I care about are treated 2nd class sometimes.

>>21309162
>best of the worst
Still a flop

>>21308274
>Sana probably has the best attitude in all of the corpo vtuber world and still mogs the number fish despite being the worst off EN
>Mumei is more creative than any Niji aside from probably Pomu
>Kronii is basically a master at deadpan humor
>Kiara is unironically a fucking idol and mogs every single NijiEN alone
My nigga… you don’t wanna play this comparison game

>>21308673
>>21307841
>4chan is 1%
>4chan is the big bad boogeyman making all the hurtful youtube comments
Oh no no no, nijikeks you can't even keep your stories straight

>>21309180
hot, someone draw Rosemi topping Elira

>>21309220
Your girls beg them to come on so they can numberfag.

>>21308927
It wasn't even advertised as an off-collab or anything really, so there were no expectations.

>>21309228
I mean they are technically top in the english male vTuber Market so i dont get how they floped. Also its about fulgur

>>21309066
Cool story, nijibeggar, still not watching your whore

>>21308923
You sound smart, you got something to share? No? I would tell you to neck yourself but you don't have a neck so I'll cope

>>21309201
People say that in threads all the time without considering the rate the IPs were increasing beforehand. It doesn't mean anything. The holobronies aren't in the room with you, anon. It's time to let them go.

>>21308927
>amelia karaoke
Yes, but any surprise would have been better than listening to her sing.

Is Pomu that talentless to a point that she had to pull the NijiMales card for this Collab?

>>21309314
>noctyx is best
No that's sodapoppin

Why is everyone trying to pull this "i-it was false advertising" shit when you didn't mind any of the other offcollabs having surprise guests? Just be honest and say you hate men and their presence make you insecure because nobody's falling for your BS

>Ctrl + f
>”KFP”
>8 (+ 1) matches
I hope you retards realize KFP isn’t that Muh if Pomus audience at all.

You HAVE to stop letting a group of people who don’t exist live in your head

>>21309360
She's very talented, she's pure soul.

>>21309360
Management probably pushed it on her at the last minute which is why hes missing from the thumbnail.

>>21309407
Most of the people arguing about this don't watch NijiEN and didn't watch this collab or those other collabs. Holofags arguing with themselves over stuff Nijisanji does to feel superior like usual.

350 replies and going up
anything goes here these days. even comments turned off is a big discussion trigger

>>21309240
Go ask the many threads in the board that like to shit on council very often what do they think of your opinion.

>>21309407
It's more what >>21308938 said. Uki was dead fucking weight and Finana and Pomu had negative things planned other than probably uki

>>21309220
Ethyria cannibalized NijiEN, not sure what you're talking about with that when Luxiem helped bring in new viewers while Ethryia failed in that. The rest you mentioned idk what thats about since Selen has never felt secondary to males. Maybe Pomu feels like that since thats what most anons here only watch

>>21309407
why would they hate the gay one?

>>21309407
>I've got this thing I like for you
>btw you have to tolerate this thing you don't like to have it
Only kronii hates men. I just don't want to watch their stream.

this thread is gayer than uki holy fucking shit

>>21309503
You're here right now being indignant and asshurt tho

>>21309623
And now you're part of It so you're gay too

>>21309623
Uki fucked two girls tonight how can he be gay?

>>21309509
>feels like all out war

>>21309713
Hes nonbinary thank you.

>>21309509
Pomu being a sensitive bitch is a good topic.

>>21309360
no explanation at all why uki was there, and it certainly wasn't for numbers, hes like the literal who of the males

the collab was an attempt at something, but it wasn't, the kino was ennas offcollab I was grinning like an idiiot with those 4

>>21309433
Management doesn't exist in Nijisanji Holobronies....

>b-b-but he's gay
>that erect penis doesn't count he's just nervous
>they only tried sex because they're curious what its like

Also just ny 2cents. I dont trust uki around females but i trust fulgur around females. Both are gay but one is a bara chad while the other is a fuckboy. I trust the barachad

>>21309360
she literally said at the start of the stream that she was also surprised about Uki joining

>>21310105
deflecting

>>21309072
We should have gatekept the fujos who blindly defend anything involving the males

>>21309543
>Caring about SEAniggers who don’t actually watch streams thing
Why??????

>>21309543
Anon opinions of cross boarding children don’t change facts and reality…

>>21310174
watching clips count

Anyone actually have an example of these "bad comments"?

>>21310211
>clipniggers believe this

>>21310105
What does that even mean? Was his presence in their hotel room was supposed to be a secret from the audience, then? Isn't that worse?

I wanted to watch fish and pomu, if I wanted to watch a niji male i'd switch over to kanae

>>21309601
I haven't watched Kronii since she debuted, where does the man-hate thing come from?

>>21306204
I mean I've never commented in any vtubers stream, ever, and I've watched hundreds of streams at this point.

Pomu... I do not think collabing with purple gay man is going to make Luca jealous and want to destroy your pussy

>>21310243
>>21305997
>>21305904

>>21310382
That means you are a filthy holobrony

>>21310438
those are not bad. ever read youtube comments before?

>>21310337
>Doxniggers are retarded and over exaggerate
There’s your answer

>>21310523
Shut up doxniggers are based and can only tell the truth. Did you know purple man is gay so this offcollab is fine

>>21309722
>>21310490
obsessed

>>21308938
one thing I dont really get - how is their thumbnail yuribaiting? looks like a normal sleepover to me.

>>21310497
I dont disagree with you.

>>21310658
You see, it's not only the thumbnail.
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1508093735644581898

>>21310471
It's really sad to see a Nijisanji viewers unable to criticize Nijisanji without being called a Holobronies...

>>21310438
So uh...2 comments with 9 upvotes between them? Ehhhhh...

>>21309220
>Hell the males even get their own mods while the girls have to mod their own chats.
Selen commented about the most the girls have silent mods instead of attention whores like the ones males and finana have

>>21311215
The OP claimed she deleted a bunch of comments. So either that happened and you aren't seeing the rest or he lied.

>>21311215
The problem with being surrounded by a hugbox 24/7 is that even a single negative comment can shake your whole worldview.

>>21310200
>Anon opinions
>don’t change facts and reality
anon you literally spewing your opinion out and calling it reality

>>21305996
>Niji fans criticize the stream
>Get immediately called a Holobronies
I know Hololive is popular but Jesus Christ it can't be living in your mind rent free?!

>>21311506
Anon there is a reason why if you ask a nijikek for a chuuba recommendation around these parts they'll start by comparing them to hololive

>>21311215
>70% of the comments are negative
How do you not see the problem?

>>21311088
Nijisanji viewers actually watched the stream and enjoyed it.