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Senchou Houshou Marine thread

I actually have an ulterior motive for making this thread.

I am a smalltime hypno fetish artist and my patreon picked vtubers for this month as their poll reward. Out of all the chuubas, Maririn(?) is the only one that stood out to me.

If you could hypnotize her to be your plaything, what's the most likely thing that and average fan would have her do or how would she act?

This is actual, serious research for me, lol.

>> No.2061676

>>2061594
Hypnosis is honestly wasted on Marine because she'll basically be down to do whatever you want without hypnosis anyway.

>> No.2061764

>>2061594
Oof, wanted to add that this is a normal Marine thread other than my research.

>>2061676
I didn't know that. Does this have something to do with the "I'm Horny" meme?

>> No.2061846

>>2061764
Yes, and also stuff like https://youtu.be/tYGQ_0Rqk0A
She's an unrepentant pervert, hypnosis play wouldn't really do much for her.

>> No.2061987
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2061987

>>2061764
The only way to win is by not giving her what she wants.

>> No.2062247

>>2061676
You might be able to get some mileage out of a hypnosis-based orgasm denial thing, or like >>2061987 suggests go the maximum IQ route and hypnotize her into not being horny.

>> No.2062387

>>2062247
>hypnosis-based orgasm denial
I suppose, but that's not really playing into the strengths of hypnotism as a fetish. It's like buying a bulldozer just so you can fill a sandbox

>> No.2062389

When’s she coming back, bros?

>> No.2062393

>>2062247
>>2061987
>>2061846
>>2061676

Okay then. That takes care of characterization. I guess I should ask how people usually see her.

Is she considered short or more mature or whatever in canon or fanon? Like, is she long limbed/depicted as tall, etc? Is her face heart-shaped or is it longer or sharper? I know that Japan has buzzwords for facial structures etc like "fox-shaped" etc and of course regular, universal descriptions are good too like "mommy/ara ara" would help. I have a more Western art style so those types of things are more visually obvious.

Literally the only thing I know is that she has nice tits.

>> No.2062436

>>2062389
I hope she doesn't end up resenting Miko because of this shit. It was such a good collab and it'd be a shame if future things were cancelled as a result.

>> No.2062513

>>2062387
That's true, yeah.
>>2062436
Honestly I'm more worried that she feels guilty for a prank tailored to her going so badly awry, but I think Miko and Marine are mature enough to know it's not their fault this happened.

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2062520

>>2062393
Yeah this is abit of a bad time to ask about that because we are kinda in the middle of some drama right now. Also really Marine is not the ideal subject for hypnotism stuff, more fitting would be someone like Flare or Aqua. However if you really want to stick with her, this video should give you a good primer on what she's usually like.
https://youtu.be/5Ybut0DDeu0
Also one thing you should note is that she's really short. Alot of artist make the mistake of making her tall because it fits her model, but she actually has the proportions of a gremlin and is like 150cm tall.

>> No.2062564

>>2062520
Nice, the height actually helps a lot.

Sorry about the drama, ya'll. Hope you guys get your gal back to fighting fit soon.

>> No.2062615
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2062615

>>2062393
She's kinda has two sides, the meme persona where she's kind of a horny pervert and basically an old man in a young girls body, and then there's the her subdued persona that she breaks out during zatsudans where she's more of a worldly seen it all kind of person who dispenses advice based of life experience. If you're just doing it for porn stuff the horny persona would do just fine, though if you plan to do a longer series you should probably give some of her streams a watch to better understand her.

>> No.2062634

>>2062564
Thanks buddy, hope things go well for you too.

>> No.2062696

>>2062436
>>2062513
Yeah I doubt it'll cause any serious personal rifts between them but knowing Marine she'll definitely kick herself over how things turn out. I just hope she doesn't wallow in it too much.

>> No.2062736

>>2062615
Horny will do fine. I like watching clips and all, but I'm not a lifer. I can barely watch regular twitch streams of games I like, let alone variety things like hololive.

>> No.2062954

>>2062393
Don't know what you intend to do but one important aspect that you can find out through her 3D streams is how she is a couch potato with almost no stamina. A semen demon Senchou able to suck men dry is more of an idealized image than what's actually expected from her.

>> No.2062959

>>2062736
Well if you just need it for porn, watch this video and you basically know everything you need to know about her for that.
https://youtu.be/dpgmE04e1_M

>> No.2063225

>>2062959
Haha, that does help a lot. Especially since it's official stuff.

>> No.2063316

>>2062696
Despite that I don't expect to see another collab with just the both of them for a long time.

>> No.2063830

>>2061594
I could see senchou doing the "hypno doesn't work, I'm actually just a pervert". More inline with her perverted nature.

>> No.2064151

>>2063830
That’s seems more like what she’d do after you guys have sex.

>> No.2064186

i want to cuddle with Senchou at night

>> No.2064236

Why do they call her Senchou?

>> No.2064424

i miss her and i want to kiss her

>> No.2064529

>>2064236
Because she's a captain

>> No.2064589

>>2062436
I don't think you have to worry about that. This was the first time they hung out in person outside of work related duties, but Miko and Marine have been pretty close for a long time. I doubt this bullshit will splinter a pretty strong relationship.

>> No.2064645

>>2061594
Don't hijack the general OP to talk about your porn for fucks sake

>> No.2064918

>>2064186
You know that one non-H doujin of Marine? The one where you're her husband?
I want that.

>> No.2065152

>>2064918
I didn't know something like that existed but man am I glad it does.

>> No.2065330

>>2064918
Isn't that doujin by Mizuryu?

>> No.2065410

>>2065330
I forget, but even if it is, it doesn't really matter, does it?

>> No.2065448

Marine did nothing wrong

>> No.2066663

>>2065330
>>2065410
It was surprising that he did something as vanilla as that.

>> No.2066863

>>2065448
And we all know that, I hope she does too. It still bothers me a lot that she kneeled to these shitheads and is probably still beating herself up "reflecting on her actions" like all of these faggots wanted her and Miko to do and hasn't even let us know she's ok

>> No.2066906

>>2062615
It's like a comedy where she tries to be a tiddy tuber but ends up becoming the wise old grandma that looks out for her socially stunted sister and her weirdo fans

>> No.2066919

>>2065448
Isn't it just the shitty antis and fandom faults?

>> No.2066947

>>2064918
>>2065152
>>2066663
that was cute thanks for letting me know this exists

>> No.2066952

>>2066919
Yeah, even some of her and Miko's jap fans are telling them to bend the knee.

>> No.2067153

>>2065448
Be careful, nips will call you a braindead foreigner pig for saying that.

>> No.2067337

>>2066952
>>2067153
No wonder she wanted those overseas sexy guys so much

>> No.2067390

Marine hates her jaoanese fans and Japan in general and wants to go to America

>> No.2067420

>>2067390
dangerous rrat

>> No.2067563

>>2066952
>>2067153
>>2067337
Virgin jap cucks telling their oshi to bend the knee vs chad kaigai niki telling them they did nothing wrong

>> No.2068236

>>2067390
She wants to go to the USA that exists in her mind, but she, like many other japs, doesn't really have a clue what current USA is like

>> No.2068393
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2068393

>>2068236
I wouldn’t advise Asians going to America right now

>> No.2068499

>>2068236
>>2068393
What evidence has caused you to believe that the U.S. is worse than it was in the past?

>> No.2068826

>>2068236
There's parts of the USA where she won't face much problems(New England, West Penn, Florida panhandle maybe, Colorado, Arizona)

But yeah, she should wait until the craziness subsides in 5-10 years, just like in the 70s

>> No.2068847

>>2062954
She has stamina only for sex.

>> No.2069014

THE DRAMA IS FINALLY OVER. BOTH PARTIES HAVE APOLOGIZED. AND THE ARCHIVE WILL BE BACK

- https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1377214292668280832
- https://twitter.com/n72699389/status/1377214694801297408

>> No.2069068

>>2068499
there's been a big rise in random acts of violence against asians (usually women or older folk) because everyone has their panties in a knot over covid

>> No.2069090

>>2069068
and because burgers can't tell the difference between chinks and japs

>> No.2069836

>>2069090
You'd expect people who live in (((melting pots))) to be able to tell races apart but I guess all the mystery meat confuses them

>> No.2069877

>>2069014
>>2069862

>> No.2069925
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>>2069836
considering that they're retarded enough to even go after Filipinos, that's probably true

>> No.2070441

>>2069877
The important point is that both parties have apologized and called it off so any remaining mudslingers don't have a moral leg to stand on.

>> No.2070469

>>2070441
>both parties have apologized
only one party apologized

>> No.2070530

>>2070469
and the other get hunted by 35P and marine gakichoi right now. They sent death threat to author and right now try dox her

>> No.2070553

>>2070469
But that's false.

>> No.2070603

>>2070553
Sorry for disrupting the thread, not sorry for you though.

>> No.2070622

>>2070469
Look if you are going to obbess over who apologies aren't sincere enough and other such shit this drama will never end until someone fucking dies. I'm not exactly happy with this situation either but the best thing to do is to just let things die down.

>> No.2070626

>>2070603
What the fuck are you on about? Are you mental?

>> No.2070657

>>2070530
Is this a bad thing?

>> No.2070684

>>2070622
>>2070626
Read miko and marine's posts.
They have never received a single apology. They only mentioned apologizing.

>> No.2070689

>>2070530
you talk like that's a bad thing lol. Never mess with the 35P

>> No.2070700

>>2070689
There's a reason 35P's favourite game is GTA anon.

>> No.2070711

>>2070657
>>2070689
it's good thing. 35P fans are obssessive and marine are queen on 5ch

>> No.2070724

>>2070684
Are you blind, disingenuous or just illiterate?

>> No.2070744

>>2070724
Do you want me to translate miko and marine's posts too nigger?

>> No.2070793

>>2070744
You didn't translate anything.

>> No.2070818

>>2070793
>>2069973

>> No.2070866

>>2070818
The apology is right there. Did you forget after "translating" it?

>> No.2070904

>>2070866
Oh no, it's retarded.

>> No.2070914

>>2070866
>"sorry for disrupting your vtuber industry"
>"sorry I made you mad, I guess"

>> No.2070925

Don't look at /vyt/ if you want to keep your sanity.

>> No.2070995

>>2070904
Yeah this guy is. The apology is right there and he can't read it.

>>2070914
So you're just being disingenuous and pretending it's not there.

>>2070925
Why would you ever look at that place? No matter how much time passes it will always be the home to the wojak obsessed freak.

>> No.2070999

>>2070530
Should I feel sorry for that bitch who got her $3 out of this and fucked over Marine and Miko?

>> No.2071048

>>2070995
>Im sorry that you're retarded

>> No.2071053

Read >>2070995 again.
>They have never received a single apology

>> No.2071089

>>2070925
What's going on there now? I literally haven't been once since /hlg/ split off

>> No.2071136

>>2071053
The apology is right there.

>> No.2071182

>>2071136
And to whom that apology is directed to and what is it for?

>> No.2071194

>>2071182
Are they not vtubers?

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>>2071194
>apologies for disrupting the industry. as for my actions? lol nope.

>> No.2071328

>>2071270
Yeah it's half assed but you are absolutely retarded for claiming there is no apology.
What are you going to do now? Make a raid general to organize harassment against her until she gives a personal apology? That's never going to happen.

>> No.2071471

>>2071089
Haven't been there for a year myself either but I'm going to take a guess and say it's still full of nijinigs seething over the mere mention of Hololive.

>> No.2071488

>>2071328
I claimed that miko and marine did not recieve any apology which is true. That apology is not directed at them but to the public.
>What are you going to do now
Report every and all BL doujins to it's respective copyright author is a good idea. Scorched earth.

>> No.2071522

>>2061594
Marine is actually a pretty poor fit for hypnosis because you don't even need to hypnotize her.

>> No.2071548

>>2062436
>>2064589
Goddammit, what happened now?

>> No.2071578

>>2071548
for the love of god read the bloody thread you insufferable faggot

>> No.2071589

>>2071548
Have you been in a coma for the past three days?

>> No.2071616

>>2062393
>That takes care of characterization.
No it doesn't. Marine's important characterization when it comes to sex would be that she has deep knowledge and interest on all manner of ecchi things in 2d, but zero actual experience. That's what you need to bounce the characterization off.

>> No.2071657

>>2071589
Yes, somewhat.

>> No.2071715

>>2071657
TLDR a bunch of stupid nip drama shit over the doujin they used as a prank during the tokimeki playthrough, it's not worth getting into

>> No.2071748

>>2071715
Thanks, anon.

>> No.2071883

>>2066863
>hasn't even let us know she's ok
It's probably because she isn't OK, neither her nor Miko. Mikkorone collab wa spostponed, they haven't streamed in a couple of days, and they probably won't stream until the weekend to let things calm down. Knowing them, I'm 100% sure both of them have cried these past few days, hopefully they've been supporting each other/receiving supportive DMs from other Holomembers through discord etc.
I'm not even seething at this point, I'm just disappointed at the antis/shitflingers

>> No.2072113

>>2065448
I'm out of the loop, what happend?

>> No.2072126

>>2071488
based, but only make it public on a fresh account. No connection to hololive.

>> No.2072322

>>2071883
jfc you are acting like they've been traumatized

>> No.2072332

>>2072113
See >>2071715

>> No.2072387

>>2072322
They had niggers in their replies doxxing them and tell them to kill themselves, yeah cyberbullying isn't real but this is women we're talking about

>> No.2072392

>>2072332
thanks, I should get some glasses tbdesu

>> No.2072644

>>2071883
>knowing them
ogey

>> No.2072705 [DELETED] 

>>2072644
To be fair this is english so knowing something can be either a statement of closeness or the act of knowing about something.

>> No.2072800

>>2071715
well, you kinda have to pay attention to it to know Senchou is getting more filters on her stream because of it.

>> No.2072927

>>2071616
Not sure how I can really translate that into a single picture, but thank you for the nuance.

>> No.2072968

>>2069014
That's all they really had to do. Marinefags will probably keep crying though.

>> No.2073150

>>2072322
This >>2072387
Also, maybe I phrased it wrong, but what I meant is they feel like they've caused trouble to a dear friend and that they've disappointed their fans, which would bring their mood down. They're sensitive (and also women) which will cause them to cry. Not a lasting trauma but definitely a downer for a while. Also this may cause restrictions to be put in place regarding talking about doujins on stream and they'll know it'll be "their fault".
>>2072644
"Knowing" as in what they've shown us on stream also roommate reps

>> No.2073243

>they are women
allegedly

>> No.2073673

I'm mad and I'll stay mad

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2073687

>>2073673
Same.

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2073720

>>2073243

>> No.2074020

>tfw ignoring Marine's requests and still sending mean tweets to the fujonigger "author"
Absolutely devilish

>> No.2074066

>>2074020
basado

>> No.2074125

>>2074020
You did it.
You won everything.
Congratulations.

>> No.2074164

>>2071089
A bunch of them are pretending to care deeply about the feelings of obscure doujin artists.

>> No.2074349

>>2061594
Here's an idea, how about you do a reverse chasity hypnosis? Maybe she starts out being teasingly forward only to be hypnotized to be embarrassed about whatever she was just teasing BUT still hypnotized to do it anyway. Gap moe.

>> No.2074415

>>2074349
All I can think of is a hamster trapped on a wheel.

>> No.2075255

>>2074415
Huh? What do you mean by that, the words don't seem to match up.

>> No.2076811

>no April fools tweet
Damn this stupid controversy

>> No.2076828

>結局何について謝罪したんだ?
So what did miko and marine apologized for?
>許諾を得なかったこと?冷蔵庫に入れたこと?あるいは嘲笑したと認めるのか?
For not getting the permission? For putting it in the fridge? For laughing at it?
>今後、配信で書物に触れる場合は全て許諾を得るのか?
So from now on will they have to get permission for every literature they ever mention

>> No.2076992

>>2076828
The specific action Marine seemed to have apologized for was saying things that made the doujinshi identifiable, so they will probably need permission now if they want to mention any kind of unique product.

>> No.2077087

>>2076992
>mentions her streaming software
>OBS team files a complaint

>> No.2077264

>>2076992
It's just what I expected. That bitch is basically blacklisted by everyone who was grateful for the free advertising.

>> No.2077323

>>2077264
I fucking wish, most of the doujin artists fall in on the authors side because the popular narrative is that Miko read the entire doujin on stream and made fun of it. Same goes for most of the normies on twitter

>> No.2077337

>>2077264
Watchalongs might also be impossible from now on or maybe they can still do them with monetization disabled.

>> No.2077422

>>2077323
Which ones?

>> No.2077443

>>2077422
Fujos mostly

>> No.2077455

>>2077443
Sucks to be Senchou.

>> No.2077570
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2077570

>have next week off work, can finally watch my pirate wife live due to timezone issues
>suddenly this bullshit happens she probably won't stream for the whole next week either

>> No.2077716

I'm sending death threats to the author publicly in English to make sure that Marine starts hating EOPs and stops pandering to redditniggers.

>> No.2077855

>>2077716
Based.

>> No.2077904

>>2077337
does not apply(thank god)
it's just avatar and timer, even deranged antis have hard time twisting that into rrat

>> No.2077965

I'm still annoyed that Miko and Marine had to apologize to some noname shitter. I have to remember to tweet the author a bunch of gore after its all over.

>> No.2077990

>>2077904
Why wouldn't it apply? The stream that started this did not show the product in any way but it was mentioned by name and they gave supposed impressions on it, even though they really didn't.
The retards have been implying that Miko and Marine conducted a readalong without permission and made money from it. That's almost in the same realm as watchalongs.

>> No.2077991

>>2077965
reminder to pretend to be kato junichi's fanboy while doing that

>> No.2078075

>>2077716
>>2077855
Go back to vyt

>> No.2078136

>>2077570
Archives are you friend, there's got to be a few of them you've always wanted to watch but could never find the time too. Stay strong.

>> No.2078210

>>2077990
again, it's not illegal to talk about publicly distributed media.
Doujins are not "publicly" distributed because they leech off from copyrighted works

>> No.2078256

>>2077855
imagine throwing >based at youself

how low can schizo go?

>> No.2078285

>>2078210
This is what I find so bizarre about the whole thing, the nips are super autistic about copyright laws but when it comes to something like this that clearly breaks it they attack Marine and Miko for potentially bringing attention to it

>> No.2078316

>>2078285
They have the audacity to claim that "muh author's feelings" are more important than copyrights while disregarding the actual people who have worked on the Gundam franchise over the last few decades.

>> No.2078324

>>2078285
Two was not enough

>> No.2078398

>>2076828
>So from now on will they have to get permission for every literature they ever mention
Expect antis to try to start a drama every time they mention a manga or light novel in the stream. Probably antis are now looking for vods or clips involving that to try to start another shitstorm.

>> No.2078455

>>2078285
>>2078316
Doujin is a culture of mutual respect. It's a legal grey zone that most copyright holders don't attack because it doesn't endanger them, but they also expect their work to be treated properly.
The supposed "rule" of fujos about wanting to stay hidden makes sense but they always draw attention to themselves in the worst ways possible so it's hard to believe.

>> No.2078488

>>2078316
can you imagine if Sunrise tweeted a pic of Marine and Miko laughing with Amuro and Char

>> No.2078502

>>2078455
>wants to stay hidden
>draws attention to herself by demanding her share of Miko's superchat over her own copyright infringement
They are insane.

>> No.2078989

>>2078502
500 iq move
all he had to do is _nothing_
the doujin was old and sold out, there was no risk of getting penalized

I had some understanding for the author for not wanting their work to be publicized but now that it has caused gag order on the girls, I don't really fucking care if JP bros pay him a visit...

>> No.2079296

>>2078989
Even better, the author could have advertised a digital version and made some easy money immediately, since products holos mention always get a spike in sales.
Their official statement rankles me the most though, it's basically "I'm only sorry that this didn't go well for me, I'm not actually apologizing for anything". Shameful.

>> No.2079515

are we being raided

>> No.2079538

>>2079515
yes, by me

>> No.2079558

>>2079515
>48 IPs
>raid
When the schizo is sperging out we easily top this.

>> No.2079582

>>2079296
Realized my wording in the second sentence could be unclear. I'm talking entirely about the BL author, here. I think Marine and Miko did nothing wrong.

>> No.2079711

>>2079582
Well Marine's nip gachis are going on a rampage over in Japan and managed to take down a bunch of bl doujins so what comes around and all that

>> No.2079806

i just want to cuddle her bros, completely nonsexually

>> No.2079928

>>2079711
Are they being specific or just going after anything? It would be a shame if something Marine was looking forward to got taken down.

>> No.2080040

>>2079711
It's nice to see some of them fighting back after seeing those disgusting comments demanding her to bend the knee.

>> No.2080110

>>2079928
It's not anything upcoming, they are just mass reporting bl doujins on online doujins stores and some of the authors pulled their work off the shelves as a result. It's not really going to do anything, bl doujin artists routinely draw fire from Internet hate mobs, just this one is abit bigger than usual because of how things unfolded

>> No.2080195

>>2079928
Not like that cumbrain faggot stuff is doing her any good, if anything they're doing her a favour

>> No.2080367

I hope you faggots realize that there are a bunch of trolls pretending to be fans acting in the worst ways imaginable.

>> No.2080554

>>2080367
post their twitter ids

>> No.2080996

More importantly did Marine actually use a massager when she was vibing live on stream recently?

>> No.2081134

>>2080554
I'm not looking at twitter. There's a lot of them in Marine's last stream. Some are dumb enough to use their actual youtube accounts so you can see they watch korekore, jun or pokekamen.

>> No.2081293

>>2061594
>If you could hypnotize her to be your plaything, what's the most likely thing that and average fan would have her do or how would she act?
Any lewd shit you can think of, but in the end it turns out the hypnotism failed and she was just going for it anyway

>> No.2082574

>>2080996
Yes, but for its intended purpose.

>> No.2087470

>>2081134
Can you give any examples? Because a causal look through just reveals the usual crop of antis and shit stirrers.

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2092622

>>2069014

>> No.2092736

>>2092622
based

>> No.2093008

>>2070469

Some of us can actually read basic JP anon. She did a "moshiwake gozaimasen" and that's really the most we can expect

>> No.2093206

is marine MIA or something?

>> No.2093347

Are you ichicopes going to start archiving Marine's streams?

>> No.2093387

>>2092622
Is that a nip larping as a foreigner?

>> No.2093441

>>2061594
Does Marine ever call herself Maririn?

>> No.2093491

>>2093441
No I don't think so

>> No.2093542

>>2093491
Ty.

>> No.2094044

>>2093206
She and Miko will probably wait for a bit to cool things down. Not much reason for her to post things when they still got daggers on their backs for now.

>> No.2094152

>>2061594
How long until this whore is pregnant.

>> No.2094615

>>2094152
she's pregnant with my child sorry.
we'll name the baby Tyrone Takahashi

>> No.2094632

>>2094152
We’re trying anon give it a month.

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If the drama is already resolved "both parties apologized yatta yatta" then WHY ISN'T SHE BACK

>> No.2096416
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>>2096351
probably to let the stragglers cool down
im hurting too but we gotta be patient

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>>2087470
I'm sure you can tell what's wrong with this guy and where he came from.
There's a bunch of them telling people to go attack jun and korekore, as well as the author.

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>>2087470
Here's the typical "sympathetic" japanese person that says it's wrong to say Marine and Miko don't have to apologize, but he also says no one should be slandering, attack and telling them to graduate, and that uninvolved people shouldn't be doing anything. He's not wrong but he's misinformed.
He gets multiple responses saying "Marine dindu nuffin!!" in the most obnoxious ways, and when you check one of the channels you see exactly why they're acting like that. The guy with the Kappa avatar is also replying to a bunch of comments namedropping korekore and jun as if he's a fan telling people to attack them.

>> No.2097119

>>2097061
In this case I'm totally ok with the EOPs telling both the nip cucks and the trolls to go fuck themselves. Marine and Miko honestly did absolutely zero wrong and shouldn't be forced to apologise because of some fags hurt feefees. If they need some more Meiji style westernisation to get over this shit then so be it

>> No.2097133

>>2097119
So you're fine with them posting just like the fake fans are? Bad idea.

>> No.2097157

>>2096624
>>2097061
Oh yeah, those. I know of them, I thought you were saying recently and I couldn't find any in the past day or two.
Honestly though this is really more for the Japanese to deal with, we can't really react fast enough to this kind of falseflagging unless you want to try and organise reddit into sticking their big American dick into it.

>> No.2097214

>>2093387
No it's an actual foreigner but he somehow ends up writing in the exact same format as the trolls pretending to be fans. Kind of shows why people dislike them.

>> No.2097255

>>2097157
What are you even talking about? There's nothing anyone can do about them because they are trolls.

>> No.2097308

>>2097255
Nothing you can do about the trolls, what you can do though is gently inform the normies of the actual facts of the case, and actually stick up for the girls instead of cucking like the nips and saying shit like "It's good that you apologised! Everyone makes mistakes and let's do better in the future!". Because that shit just tells the normies that they did something wrong, one of the most common sentiments I saw was "if they didn't do anything wrong they wouldn't have apologised"

>> No.2097357

What is the endgame for the these trolls? There was literally no point in apologizing for anything. Am I the retard?

>> No.2097404

>>2097357
To get material for their masters. Just them spamming up the comment section is an epic "put me in the screenshot" moment for them because they will appear on the videos about the drama. Riling up others to post angry comments on jun's or whoever's channel is just a bonus.

>> No.2097444

>>2097308
It's not possible to do that anymore because the first information to go out was the wrong one. Even the "informed" EOPs like this one https://twitter.com/axia_ling/status/1377410406218661895 are getting everything wrong even though they pretend to know japanese.

>> No.2097504

>>2093441
Pekora and maybe Korone calls her with that nickname

>> No.2097674

>>2097357
You know how western ethots seethe when melody got popular on chaterbate? These are the Japanese version of their fans, except instead of ethots they are following Japanese pewdiepie and instead of being cucked by being based out of tumblr and reddit they are based out of 5ch.

>> No.2097717

Something strange just happen

1. Some JP bros use Coco incident for fuxk off English - speaker

2. Some of them use Kiryu Coco hashtag but side with antis

>> No.2097739

>>2097717
Uh you think you can rephrase that in proper English?

>> No.2097776

>>2097739
I think he's saying the antis are using Coco now to attack the english fans by pretending to be longtime JP Holofans

>> No.2097810

>>2097776
Correct

>> No.2097817

>>2097739
Sorry, I am ESL

>> No.2098262

>>2097776
How convincing are they because I've seen how they do when they larp as EOPs and its hard to imagine anyone falling for that.

>> No.2098279

>>2098262
I imagine that the jap normalfag isn't much smarter than ours.

>> No.2098415

>>2098279
Yeah but those are targeting EOP normal fags aren't they? They are dumb but they aren't that dumb

>> No.2098443

>>2097776
Even in plain English I don't understand, what exactly are they doing?

>> No.2099010

>>2097776
I'm sorry my brain can't quite compute.
are they trying to push EN fans to agree that Coco should be kicked out?

if so, who the fuck keeps coming up these evil master plans? cuz this is some morning cartoon level writing

>> No.2103990

>>2099010
jun's audience are children so it fits.

>> No.2104415

>>2103990
literally WHO?

>> No.2104623

>>2104415
Japanese pewdiepie

>> No.2104889

>>2104623
That's an Insult to Pewdiepie.

>> No.2105641

Marine being unfit gives 3 options for the state of her physique:
1)She is ultra skinny like Luna, which means she can't have a big ass.
2)She is skinny fat, which is disgusting.
3)She is fat, which is even more disgusting.
Take your pick ichilards.

>> No.2105699

>>2105641
Marine being unfit means she needs to be graduated

>> No.2106052

>>2105641
are we talking japanese fat or burger fat here

>> No.2106175

>>2106052
Fay is fat you fatass.

>> No.2106196

>>2106052
You know you're responding to a samefagging schizo right?

>> No.2106273

>>2106052
Skinny fat would be Japanese fat but flabbier.

>> No.2106418

>>2104623
Explain further

>> No.2106690

>>2106418
He's the most popular nip streamer. Look up junichi kayo. And just like pewdiepie he doesn't think too highly of vtubers and there's a not insignificant part of his fanbase who see vtubers as a threat and want to undermine them.

>> No.2106898

>>2106690
Junichi kato*

>> No.2108206

>>2106690
But didn't pewdiepie become a vtuber at one point?

>> No.2108345

>>2108206
Yeah, as a joke mocking the practice. He doesn't exactly hate them but he's not exactly fond of them either

>> No.2108872

>>2108345
Do him and others hate vtubers because they see vtubers as a threat... as competition to their lively hood?

>> No.2108970

>>2106690
>Junichi Kato
If I'm looking at the right channel, haven't a fair amount of holo and non holo vtubers already surpassed him in terms of general fanbase?

>Please don't tell me Senchou and Miko will be gone for long

>> No.2109415

>>2108970
He regularly gets 80k live viewers and both his twitch and YouTube channel regularly tops the most popular channels charts in Japan. Some of the holos might come close on occasion but not consistently.

>> No.2109464

>>2108970
>62k watching him on a normal Dragon Quest stream
No one in Hololive is even close to that.

>> No.2109533

>>2108872
It’s probably not that. You know how normies think of anime as tentacle rape? Vtubers have the connotation of GFE for virgins.

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>>2105641
>>2106175

>> No.2111045

>>2106690
wasn't he the guy who wanted to fuck Marine's roommate though?

>> No.2111246

>>2109464
In just a few years their audiences are getting closer to his to the point of their highest viewed streams being compared to the western heavyweights instead of that literal who outside of japland.

>> No.2111920

>>2109464
Is his channel usually monetized? I just checked to see who he was and hes got no membership or superchat.

>> No.2112536

>>2106690
Ironic how I looked at them and vtubers as just being the same shit.

>> No.2112633

>>2111920
>hes got no membership or superchat
he doesn't want to use it and that's why many v-antis always seethe about SC

>> No.2112883

>>2112633
Sucks to be them. Even hardware review channels like Gamers Nexus has SC enabled.

>> No.2113767

>>2069836
It's blacks, what do you expect?

>> No.2115506

ahoy

>> No.2115992

is it working now?

>> No.2116556

Pekora didn't call Marine because Marine is suspended

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>tfw you'll never have Marine surprise you with an ill-fitting serafuku that can barely contain her filled out lady bits

>> No.2121953

Watching Pekora's jail video, it really feels like something Marine would've showed up in and it feels weird she didn't do anything for April Fool's. This sucks man.

>> No.2122117
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Just found out that a certain touhou doujin music artist has been trying to make the situation worse while claiming to be a friend of the complaining BL author AFTER she said she's not suing and everything is fine. He claimed he will even offer her legal advice to destroy hololive.
He also said that Marine's actions might have been due to "bad influence" from beatMario. This remark managed to get even vtuber antis and fujos to call him embarassingly jealous and a piece of trash, even if he's "right" for hating holo.
Some fujo implied that the BL author and this music artist might have been working together. Seems a bit of a reach but it's still weird the guy would claim to know the author.
This guy and beatMario have been in contact many times in the past but the dude is pretty much irrelevant in comparison to Mario now.

>> No.2122514

>>2122117
>Seems a bit of a reach but it's still weird the guy would claim to know the author.
Sorry on everything else in your post it doesn't seem that unlikely to me that this guy would pretend to know the BL author just to try and profit off the situation, especially since she's probably going to stay quiet for the time being. I guess we may as well be thankful that he's such an obvious piece of shit that even fujos and antis can see through him.

>> No.2122563

>>2122117
That seems a little too convoluted but then again I dare not to question the logic of miserable antis.

>> No.2122573

>>2122117
>destroy hololive for mentioning a name of a doujin title
rrat or not, meds

>> No.2122606

>>2108872
Partly, and also because people don't think too fondly of anime outside of the usual normie stuff like nostalgia shows (dragon ball, sailor moon) or Ghibli films and FOTM shows and movies.

>> No.2122609

>>2122573
Take your globalshit lingo elsewhere, retard. I quoted what he said.

>> No.2122640

>>2122573
Anon even outside of Hololive, fandom insanity will always exist. Be glad we're at the very least tame when compared to the monstrosity that is Kpop.

>> No.2122786

>>2122514
For someone that supposedly knows the "victim" and cares about the issue, he didn't seem up to date at all.

>> No.2123473

>>2122609
>globalshit lingo
>rrat

you're so fucking new anon

>> No.2123520

>>2123473
Says the fag going rrat rrat rrat. You are so new you donä't know how new you are.

>> No.2123533

>>2123473
rumao

>> No.2123545

>>2123520
Found the ESL

>> No.2123576

>>2123473
AHAHAHAHA dumb fucking nigger, good job exposing yourself by trying to fit in so hard

>> No.2123590

>>2123545
Proudly so. My country has good education, unlike yours.

>> No.2123607

>Marine hasn't streamed since the "incident"

Was it really that fucking bad?

>> No.2123611

I wonder if Marine is going to draw the school outfit she had on and describe in detail.

>> No.2123641

>>2123611
She's probably just not going to mention that day ever again.

>> No.2123651

>>2123611
The collab will never be talked about on-stream again unfortunately

>> No.2123675

>>2123641
>>2123651
I want to take the author's work, and shit on it.

>> No.2123693

>>2123651
I'm afraid this is even going to hurt the possibility of there being future collabs with Miko despite how they are so at will around each other.

>> No.2123696

>>2123607
They generally try to avoid outrage as antis are the kinds of people who would capitalize on incidents for a misinformation campaign. Aloe and Coco are examples of the kind of headaches those would bring. A lesser example would be the janitor incident from Polka (or Lamy, forgot which).

>> No.2123700

>>2123641
>>2123651
Well it might get re-uploaded. I just want Marine talk about her big veiny tits.

>> No.2123723

>>2123675
https://e-hentai.org/g/1871679/19ec59f168/
You can always print it to avoid giving money to someone who supports her.

>> No.2123749

>>2123576
you're new too

>> No.2123771

>>2123696
It was both Lamy and Polka.

>> No.2123791

>>2123771
Fortunately Lamy has managed to make a full recovery. Can't say the same about Polka.

>> No.2123834

>>2123700
Just imagine having those veiny pirate tits in your face

>> No.2123856

>>2123696
>janitor incident
?

>> No.2123899

>>2123856
Polka and Lamy were found to be the janitors of 4chan and 5ch

they made a joke onstream about janitors at their expense and they took offense to it, so the two had to apologize. It was the first incident they had since their debut.

>> No.2123929

>>2123856
Something in the same vein as this "incident" where antis took something out of context and used it to shit on Lamy and Polka with everything they had. Even gookmoot joined in on the shitflinging.

>> No.2124208

>>2065330
>>2064918
>>2065152
>>2065410
spoonfeed me please

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>>2123723
>wasting ink and paper on gay shit

>> No.2124723

>>2123700
It's already on nyaa. 14gigs, but you know.

>> No.2125207

>>2123607
>The moment Haachama finally comes back Miko and Marine get caught in controversy and now they go silent
The suffering never fucking ends

>> No.2125487

>>2124208
https://e-hentai.org/g/1813003/831f036a70/
I swear I might have seen a translated version once but couldn't find it, so here you go. It's easy enough to understand what's happening here more or less even without knowing Japanese anyway.

>> No.2125517

>>2123607
Miko racked up like 7k dislikes on the gtao stream she did the day after, so I don’t blame them for waiting for the heat to die down.

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I'm just now catching up with this drama. This person made a great point, that the doujin author can't really complain about people using their doujin without permission when they also didn't get permission from the owners of Gundam to use their characters in a doujin and sell it in the first place. I wonder if they responded to this before privating their account.

>> No.2125560

>>2124723
14 gigs ain't that bad

>> No.2125607

>>2125535
I've seen antis claiming that it doesn't matter because what matters are the author's hurt feelings. For them, it would only matter if it was a vtuber infringing copyright.

>> No.2125625

>>2125535
Considering the author's "apology" consisted of them talking about themselves and only apologizing for "disrupting the Vtuber industry" instead of actually to Marine and Miko (who DID apologize directly to the author on Twitter despite not doing anything wrong), I don't think they care.

>> No.2125649

>>2125535
I hate to say this but, in the fujoshi circles and even doujin circles, actual common sense is thrown out the window.
These are hugboxes to the extreme caliber, what happens is the author had their poor feefees hurt by two japanese girls having a giggle. So what they do is gold medal olympic mental gymnastics to justify verbally assaulting Marine and Miko when in reality, the author is 100% in the wrong in the first place.
Welcome to the fujoshi mindset, it's actual mental illness

>> No.2125732

>>2125649
They weren't even laughing at her shitty doujin but at the whole ridiculousness of having BL in the fridge, so much that her tirade was all about her not getting a single cent from Miko's SC.

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>>2066863
>>2069014
>>2070530

What the fuck happened I feel so out of the loop. Last stream I saw was the dating sim one and I fell asleep while they were fucking around with the installer.

>> No.2125794

>>2125782
Read the last few posts.

>> No.2125817

>>2071715
>>2125794
Seriously? The giggling when Marine found BL on the fridge? And people say EOPs are cancer.

>> No.2125843

>>2125782
tl;dr they had a Gundam rape roujin they bought (and they actually like)
Miko put it in the fridge to fuck with Marine, Marine found it and they had a good laugh at THE PRANK MIKO DID NOT THE DOUJIN ITS SELF.
They mention like half the title because the actual title has the word rape in it and then move on.
Somewhere down the line they also read like 1 or 2 lines from it during the stream to.
Author of the BL rape doujin sees this, throws a fucking tirade saying they deserve all the money from this stream for copyright reasons (irony coming from a gundam doujinshi where Sunrise bans doujinshi porn of their IP).
Fujoshi go in full mental illness mode start anti-spamming Marine and Miko's twitter and youtube comments and justifying the author's "hurt feelings".

>> No.2125856

>>2125817
Yup all of this because the BL author is more butthurt then the character that got buttfucked because two anime girls giggled at the campy dioalgue.

>> No.2125873

>>2125843
also the author apologized using a burner account having locked their real twitter account and saying they're sorry for "interrupting the flow of the Vtuber industry" and didn't even name drop Miko or Marine directly who were the ones actually affected by their ignorance.

>> No.2125901

>>2125817
Imagine being upset at people buying and mentioning your rape manga using licensed characters without permission.

>> No.2125940

>>2125901
>B-but I only made $5 while she gets to make $2000 in a single day, it's not fair!

>> No.2125983

Everything from that weekend was perfect until this retarded incident happened. Unironically fuck them for just ruining a overall extremely fun and good time for the viewers and Miko and Marine over something so asinine and insignificant.

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>>2125856
>>2125873
Why was I expecting something more serious? How the fuck did this even become a problem? What the fuck is wrong with nipfans? I can at least UNDERSTAND the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE from the bugs beefing with Coco.
>>2125843
>Author of the BL rape doujin sees this, throws a fucking tirade saying they deserve all the money from this stream for copyright reasons (irony coming from a gundam doujinshi where Sunrise bans doujinshi porn of their IP).
That's fucking rich.
>>2125901
>Imagine being upset at people buying and mentioning your rape manga using licensed characters without permission.
kek

Thanks for filling me in. Hope our wise, based, sexy, superlit, hag-in-the-making is doing OK. Fucking fujoshis can have some of this BL right here for depriving me of whatever stupidity Marine originally had planned for today.

>> No.2126151

>>2125983
Seriously, Miko and Marine were enjoying their time together so much and it had to end on the worst note possible because of one autistic doujin artist. Now they're not even streaming at all and we would've had the mikkorone collab and April Fool's stuff with Marine. The fact that there were actually so many antis to side with the gundam rape author just shows how many shitty people exist in the world.

>> No.2126220

>>2125983
Miko's GTA stream gave me hope that they would keep going too so when they both just went silent it just felt worse

>> No.2126272

>>2126151
A lot of people just categorically hate vtubers. You know how if you go on any other board on this site and say something positive about vtubers and you'll get shit on? Japan is no different than we are in this respect--if anything, their antis are actually more hysterical and vitriolic about it.

>> No.2126273

>>2061594
enough of the drama, someone please drop more sexy hag art to attempt to satiate my unquenchable thirst

>> No.2126276

>>2126074
She is most likely just waiting a week so the retards calm down

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>>2126151
>>2126220
I can't find my Miko-boat soundpost, but I've never been happier that 35P are basically the /b/ of Holo fandoms. I hope that shitlicker doujinshi has to deal with the worst of them.
>>2126273
Pictured, hag ready for antis.

>> No.2126308

>>2126276
I hope it's a week and not almost a month with no updates line haachama

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Marine please sit on my face.

>> No.2126360

>>2126074
>>2125843
I wish we could get sunrise to send a C&D letter to the "author" or something like that, that'd be great.

>> No.2126380

>>2126323
I want Marine to forcibly push her veiny tits in my face like she did with Shion

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>>2126360
I mean...they could, but isn't it typical for big corps to let doujinshi slip under the radar?
>>2126380
For you.

>> No.2126429

>>2126151
The major problem is that it hit the mainstream with a distorted version of events so alot of normies got dragged into this and, let's be honest, if you heard that say, pewdiepie put some small content creator on his video and mocked him on stream you'd probably aide with the small content creator too

>> No.2126432

>>2126360
Honestly, I don't understand how no one's tried to do that yet.

>> No.2126474

>>2126432
A big corporation like sunrise isn't going to put their foot into trying to shut down doujins without a very good reason, which is pretty much only limited to using their property for political works.

>> No.2126498

>>2126423
>For you
Nice.

>> No.2126598

>>2126423
It's not cost effective to go after everyone. They just wait for people that monetize it in a noticeable way.

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>>2126432
>>2126474
What if we sent them a letter telling them that someone was using their characters to fuel an online harassment campaign for profit

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>>2126606
dew it

>> No.2126656

>>2126606
D E V I L I S H

>> No.2126754

I would remove every doujin artist if it would return Marine to stream tomorrow, this is ridiculous even Miko bounced back and she was the one targeted most.

>> No.2126779

>>2126606
We can't do shit, go tell the nips that.

>> No.2126803

>>2126606
That... is actually a good reason

>> No.2126862

>>2126779
4chan's autism has no borders Anon.

>> No.2126871

>>2069090
It's mostly the blacks.

>> No.2126929

>>2126871
There's is no credible proof to that

>> No.2127046

>>2126754
>even Miko bounced back and she was the one targeted most.
Well it seemed like she did, but she's been radio silent since too

>> No.2127328

>>2126929
sure tyrone

>> No.2128398

Is there new bread? We hit the post limit. A Kiara schizoposting thread can surely die for pixels.

>> No.2128435

>>2128398
Threads last for eight hours around these parts, we can wait till it drops to page nine.

>> No.2128485 [DELETED] 

>>2128435
Thanks. Been spending too much time in /b/PXL. If there's no new bread from a regular at ~280 the next OP gets hijacked by some falseflagger shit.

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>>2128435
Real talk, what the fuck was PC.io janny thinking when banpixels reverted to white did NOT reset cooldowns? I've been hammering away at the fucking Hololive logo all week.

>> No.2128571

>>2126606
>>2126779
>>2126862
you are fucking slow. i doubt sunrise care about that, but people on 5ch already sent complain letter to sunrise and report to police for copy infringiment

>> No.2128588

>>2128550
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the pixel place thread is two blocks down

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>>2128435
>>2128485
>>2128550
>>2128588
I snorted too many pixels to realize I was in the wrong thread. Here's more of our beautiful Christmas cake. I'll sudoku my way out now.

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Pictured, Marine getting ready to come back.
Make sure you fuckin @ her some love. She's the one makin the bank, but she def uses us as a boyfriend simulator.

>> No.2129086

>>2126295
Seriously, 35p are hardcore. That doujin author pissed off the wrong group of mega turbo autists, lol.

>> No.2129155

>>2126598
Yeah, and then proceed to make an example of them.

>> No.2129284

>>2126429
Opposite to those faggots, even if I found it condemnable I wouldn't upset him about it. I understand how these things work with the "he said, she said" and would always have my doubts without any facts backing up those accusations. And the most important of all, I have better things to do in my life than joining the daily social media lynch mob.

>> No.2129456

>>2129284
Yeah, well, 10k people don't have your same considerations and appearently that's enough to get them to bend the knee.

>> No.2129477

>>2128911
Don't worry, I'm on it.

>> No.2129537

>>2129456
They always bend the knee. That's the problem with Cover. No matter how much bullshit someone makes up about their talent and how many of them there are doing it, they always do it. So much for all those empty threats of suing anyone that tried to pull this shit. They even gave in to the fujo's extortion.

>> No.2130598

>>2129537
Japanese company please understand

>> No.2130752

>>2129537
That depends whether it's worth the trouble and cost to actually take it to court or something like that, doesn't it? Don't know much of how these laws work, but I'd imagine Cover would have a easier choice if they manage to get their hands on someone that they can prove to be intentionally and seriously peddling slander or harm rather than petty drama some author blindly blundered into, and especially when all the parties involved wanted to resolve it quickly.

Biggest example IIRC correctly was when Cover actually went after Brittany Venti when she was spewing that garbage about Gura and Hololive catering to pedos and seemingly had no intention of stopping. Granted, they took a cheaper route that didn't exactly work, but she finally fucked off after failing to drum up more drama and before she got bumped off of Twitter.

>> No.2130821

>>2130752
The problem is that its not the author who was pushing that, it was a bunch of random no name 5channers on twitter who misrepresented the facts. It's the exact same problem with trying to sue random shit talkers on 4chan or random pirates, no matter how much money you have it's never going to be cost effective.

It worked for venti because she was a public figure who was putting those words ouyt on her own channel, not this.

>> No.2130904
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>>2124723
look I just downloaded youtube-DLG and happily download away, the fucking thing doesn't have a vp9 setting (unless I read the man page like a non-idiot but... y'know) and I'd argue the hour it took me to download was kinda critical seeing how they had to nuke it. 10 people are still seeding, I encourage people to upload their smaller versions. But I do see value in quick archiving these days, I heard you have to wait for youtube to process the vp9 first

tl;dr: no u ;_;

>> No.2132805

>>2130821
She stopped pushing for it once the heat got to her but she was the one who started the whole thing.

>> No.2132830

>>2130904
How do you archive vp9?

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