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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

>>21159366
Vote post, 2022-03-25

For all votes, please mark the vote with one of the options provided at the beginning of the vote. Elaboration is optional unless otherwise noted. This is especially important for issues where abstaining is NOT an option.
The vote will end in ~8 hours (48 hours after >>21027357's posting time, starting from the time where this post is made. The result will be compiled and posted within 24 hours after the end.

1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
>Yes/No/Abstain
2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386.
>A/B/C/D/Abstain
3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
>Next round/Later date (please elaborate if latter)
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
>Yes/No

>>21147970
In terms of religion (which seems to be the guiding principle of both /meat/ and /morig/), I think the two main sticking points would probably be:
1) /morig/ religion seems to believe in some kind of finality (the final death, and that death is final, as mentioned by >>21151067), while /meat/ religion is all about the unending (or at least should be unending) cycle of life, which can be seen as a form of reincarnation (one without the sense of self being intact in the process, so probably more Indian than Chinese?). For orthodox /meat/, death is just another step in the cycle.
2) /meat/ also sees suffering as an integral part of the cycle of life, and it should be experienced (or made to experience) fully, something that /morig/ religion lacks.
3) /morig/'s belief in a predetermined time to die likely differs from that of /meat/. At least, /meat/ sees that being sacrificed as a proper way to end one's life (this life, at least), which /morig/ definitely doesn't agree with.
4) The whole stagnant immortal gods and god-eating thing.
That said, /meat/ and /morig/ does have an interesting amount of overlapping ideas, both religious and technological. It's rather interesting ngl.

>>21159371
I don't think /meat/ has particular thoughts on Sana, other than that she seems to be part of the holo pantheon which /meat/ see as the symbol of immortal stagnation. OOCly, holocouncil's still sufficiently new that I think /meat/ would consider them still not outliving their supposed time yet, but I don't know how that translates to this setting. /meat/'s view on the gods do not necessarily reflect how /meat/ as a country interact with their followers, though.

>>21160227
Well, if /inf/ (and /risu/ to a lesser extent) can be friends with both /morig/ and /meat/, I don't see why /nasa/ can't. Plus, just because we want to eat your gods eventually doesn't mean we have to be a cunt to you! Granted, that feeling is often not mutual, and many of the more diplomatic /meat/head probably have learnt to not bring that up unless prompted.

>>21159443
Compiling previous votes:
Sakuran: >>21033911
/pyon/: >>21035432
/morig/: >>21052305 (https://rentry.org/u92px))
/who/: >>21145419
/inf/: >>21147805
/wg/: >>21146428
/meat/: >>21158081
/nasa/: >>21158336

I wish /wah/ had a thread rep because Ina and Sana are friends.

>>21160499
from what i understand they told /infinity/'s invites to fuck off a few times, I tried inviting /awat/ like twice too, they did show some amount of interest, but they didn't follow up on it. I'll try again tomorrow i guess.

>>21160442
Infinity changed their #2 vote to D

>>21160657
You could probably wait until Monday, we might send another round of envoys around

>>21160344
>just because we want to eat your gods eventually doesn't mean we have to be a cunt to you!
would you say our outlook is kind of what i said here >>21160676?

>>21160676
I see. Well we still have to see if Sana is big into ryona. I do know Sana wants to be stepped on but is too big to feel it.

>>21160657
Well that fucking sucks. I'm sure if /nasa/ asks now we'll be told to fuck off. So /wah/ has shitlisted the threads. Whelp no friends with tentacle people then.

>>21160977
Actually they might listen to sanalites.

>>21160977
Maybe it was specifically in response to /infinity/ considering they aren't the most well regarded split by anyone, /wah/ could still get a future rep one day.

Invitations aren't really necessary to begin with. The threads are active enough to sustain themselves and those who are interested will join in.

>>21161128
I'll give it a month. If we ask now the offer will go sour fast because "clocksuckers asked them to". Its also the same with getting /rbc/ and /ggg/ back. Mostly with letting them try on their own first before shoving politics into their game. I think I was successful at starting a conversation with /uuu/ about kirins even though nothing came out of it. And /uuu/ loves /nasa/'s pies to comfort them without Fauna.

If /zomg/ comes back then I'd like to ask them what their country would be like. Just start with small topics first before opening up trade deals.

>>21160747
Already registered.

>>21160788
I kind of prefer us not to send envoys out too much, since people who're interested in our brand of autism would most likely come to us already. Maybe only have people ask a certain thread if they already have friendly relations with said people? That should minimise negative feedback towards us.

>>21160964
Sounds about right to me.

Since we have non-human species now I wonder what /wah/'s people would look like now.

Ahh, messing with shaders while listening to Sora sing, this is what it's all about.
Anyway, clouds! Probably won't have them in the "viewing" version, since you can't see shit through them, but they do help sell the illusion, don't they? Also improved the other materials some more.
actually a deadbeat, I just like daisenpai

>>21162734
That's really fucking cool, anon

>>21162815
Thanks anon! It'll look even cooler once we get all the landmasses and accurate biomes on there.

>>21163003
What kind of biome types would you need for the rendering? I'll see if I can help before a new climate analysis is up.

>>21163171
Honestly, I kinda plan on winging in once we get there, since I'm not sure how much I can differentiate the different biomes with a visual representation from space. I plan to start with creating a black/white heatmap for each of those:
Desert
Temperate
Tropical
Cold
And then covering the land with the relevant land shader, with automatic transitions.
And if that works well I would extend the number of biome materials to have one for each biome here:
https://rentry.org/zo5ke
At least the ones I can differentiate from the others.
I should probably start gathering references.

>>21163359
Alright, I'll see what I can do in the following days. Probably won't be as extensive as the analysis, and part of me thinks automatic transition might actually be better than mapping the margins manually (since many biomes are more like transitional zones between other biomes, like savannah being a transition between tropical forest and desert/plain).

>>21163450
Nice, that would be a big help. I'll try to work out those biome materials while drawanon finishes the new map.
And damn, I'm reminded of how cool the weather analysis is. I wonder how much the 15 degree shift changes it.

>>21163877
The most significant change would be near the top and bottom of the map, although the majority of difference would likely be due to me not being the original analyser, and we might disagree on how much different factors affect the overall climate (see the discussion about /nasfaqg/ climate being subtropical or Mediterranean before for reference, as well as how IRL Iceland's climate maps rarely agree with each other).

>>21163941
I'm no climatologist, but I imagine it doesn't help that even if the geography doesn't change significantly the weather can change a fair bit, what with ice ages and such. And we are only working off of geography.

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>>21162734
>>21164206
WARanon, do you think we could make a WAR we can see from space?

>>21164243
Yes

>>21164346
Ah, it would be so beautiful...

WIP biome map, it should be noted that it's NOT meant to reflect the actual climate closely, but more for globe mapping purposes.
/inf/ is left empty since I think they want a specific biome/climate distribution, and the island will be moved (in that general area) to accompany that. Can anyone from /inf/ confirm? As for the small corpro continent, I'm admittedly a bit stuck. I think it'll probably be divided between soubtropical monsoon, steppe and desert, but I'll have to think about it more before committing. For the rest:
>Blue: Tropical rainforest, lush green. Mostly evergreen but can be more seasonal due to effects of monsoon/altitude.
>Light Blue: Savannah area of significant size. It should be noted that there will be strips of savannah between rainforest and desert as transitional zones. The ones on the map are simply ones that are larger than usual due to local conditions.
>Red: Hot arid environment. Might have significant transitional grassland between it and other biomes.
>Green: Subtropical/temperate forest, slightly less lush green than tropical rainforest and usually be subjected to seasonal effect. Be noted that the difference between subtropical forest and rainforest can be ambiguous, in particular due to monsoonal effect in eastern holo and niji continent, and how well the local environment retains water during dry season. There might be significant deforestation for agriculture.
>Yellow: Mediterranean biome, dominated by shrubs and tend to look more yellow-green from space.
>Light purple: warm continental biome, usually a mix between forests and steppe.
>Deep purple: cold continental biome, usually forested in dark green boreal forest/taiga. Elevations will usually lead to grassland due to the lower tree line.
>Dark red (only in holo continent around /haachama/): Cold desert caused by rain-shadow effect, think Taklamakan.
>Grey: Tundra.
>White: Icecap, the ones on the terran map overrides it, as I might have accidentally painted some over (mostly /rrat/). Be noted that there is a spot of it on /morig/ due to the elevation and chuubanite effect of Mt. Mori and its Chill Zone.
It's not an accurate reflect of climate zone due to it not matching biome zones perfectly. There might be significant local differences, so a closer analysis will be needed for countries that want a more comprehensive picture. Feel free to tell me if I screwed it up.

>>21160657
>>21160977
Maybe because they think this place is just /inf/ 2.0
We need a more fleshed out invite. Give them the basic gist, long term objective, and provide examples

>>21166295 (Me)
Quick note before I take my leave for the night: area between light (temperate grassland, like steppe and prairie) and dark purple (boreal forest like taiga) might also be deforested for agriculture, which is likely the case in some known discrepancies like western /yeah/.

>>21166295
>>21166547
Thanks, this'll come in handy. I'm heading out for the night too, but I'll play around with this tomorrow.
/3/guy

bump

>>21159607
The thing with "soul" is that ti is part of the thread terminology, and it does manifest itself in the players as them refusing to chase optimal strategies or profits, and the desire to uphold a promise has lead to the account deletion of at least one person - the equivalent of committing suicide because you failed the bet / failed to uphold the promise Soul is not a solution to a problem, or an addition, its an aspect of the thread culture that has to be included

>>21164206
I FUCKING LOVE WAR!
I WANT TO KILL PEOPLE FOR FAME & GLORY!
I WANT TO BURN DOWN SETTLEMENTS AND ENSLAVE THEIR FORMER INHABITANTS!
I WANT TO EXPLOIT THEIR RESOURCES FOR THE PROSPERITY AND PRESTIGE OF MY NATION!

>>21168971
>>21159769
Err... Conflicting signals...

>>21168818
the guy i was responding to basically said the "soul" was a solution to problems he said would arise with the profit motive. i said those problems were caused by the "soul" and would be solved with the profit motive if given the chance. if it's just a cultural thing, then so be it, but every time some morally righteous dumbass in a position of power thinks he's figured out how to achieve worldwide utopia, millions of people die in vain with nothing to show for it but history for the few wise people in the future to learn from, only to be ignored by the masses for yet another fool's vision of utopia, sometimes the very same one that failed so terribly. i just felt like bringing that up.

>>21169412
What's wrong with /nasfaqg/ being a wealthy but amoral ancap heaven/nightmare? It's a fun niche.

>>21169100
Don't worry about it~

>>21169412
alright cool and all for having aview like that but we arent building a utopia we are just playing a cute coin game

/infinity/! What did you do?!

What should the Moon look like? Assuming we have a moon.

>>21169737
Why stop at one? We could have a Luna moon and a Moona moon.

>>21169457
that's what i assumed everyone was going for, but then the soul was presented to limit the evils of the profit motive, and it confused me.
>>21169637
sorry, please continue as you will. i was just a bit confused about the direction /nasfaqg/ was going in terms of world building.

>>21169803
two moons can make the planet have more violent weather and might not be very stable. even our moon is drifting away from us. having two could cause a few problems depending on how far away from us they are.

>>21169803
Eh, give one to shion too, idk her oshimark is a moon too right?
>>21169847
If we made the Moons far less massive, their effects on tides and weather would be reduced. Or maybe better, we could have one Moon(a) of size similar to the IRL one, and then a collection of smaller satellites?
Or we could just have hellish super tides, that could be fun too.

>>21169934
we need a climate anon who can take into account multiple moons before we can discuss this any further.

>>21169715
Keep walking citizen. Nothing to worry about :)

>>21169976
Well, adding satellites of negligible mass (say, <0.001% the mass of the planet) would have a limited impact, I'm pretty confident of that based on my understanding of gravitational forces. It gets wackier if we have multiple satellites of significant mass.

>>21159443
Last moment vote! I was waiting for feedback from /nasfaqg/ but I think that no one had issues with this.


>1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938 (Dead) (Dead)?
Yes. I don't see the reason why not, justification for it is clear.
>2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 (Dead) (Dead) and picrel.
D. The northern route gives sea access to northern nations, while not being economically competitive in terms of costs with other trade routes. There isn't anything for anyone to lose in this option.
>3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
Next round. No reason to delay, with this high rate of abstaining it might potentially mean that people want to discuss it at a later date, so maybe include "vote later" as the third option in this one case, for the revote.
>4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
Yes. Just for consistency, but each nation can have their own names for the planet/regions that exist alongside the "unified" name.

>>21169976
It's less an issue of climate and more of astrophysics, because unless the two moons orbit the planet at a significantly different radius, it basically becomes a three-body problem. Essentially, unless the smaller moon is significantly smaller than the bigger moon (about 100 times is the ballpark), the system won't be very stable and one of the bodies will eventually get ejected or crash into the other. If we assume our planet and major moon is the same mass as their RL counterpart, the smaller moon will be about the size of Miranda (which is also about the size where space stuff start becoming round-ish due to their own gravity). If we go by this model, the smaller moon will be about 1/6 the size of the bigger moon (in angular size), so probably smaller than your pinky nail at arm's length.

>>21170512
kek those poor reference posts getting increasingly deader with each post.

>>21170551
Aaaarghh, it happened again. (embed) (embed) (embed) (buy octoina) (embread)

>>21170551

>>21170540
this was what i was thinking, too, but then i thought that since there are some habitable moons orbiting gas giants with multiple moons, maybe it isn't always the case. also, yes it is an issue of climate, specifically it's about how astrophysics effects climate.

>>21159443
Votes for /kfp/
>1
Yes
>2
D
>3
Immediately, with a preferential voting system if possible
>4
Yes

>>21159607
If someone cares solely about profit they'll backstab you the first chance it becomes profitable. They'll take your money, scam you in 5 different ways, and then move for the long-term deal with your competitor who offered them higher rates. Having "soul" is what would make them trustworthy since they'd honor agreements based on personal integrity and self-forged rules - they wouldn't enter an agreement if it didn't suit them, again, out of integrity.

/nasfaqg/ politics and society mostly references the thread and translates it and the game. There is absolutely no way to enforce anything in player-to-player interaction in the stock exchange (which spawns value out of nowhere). We have flesh-regenerating theocracy and a nut-oriented tribe, give us a little leeway in terms of fantasy politics here.

>>21169412
The goal at large is still profit. The question is how you get there - any libertarian system without a strong ethical core in participating individuals would straight-up collapse into an uncompetitive monopoly and oligarchy, since straight-up assassinating competition would be a choice that'd protect your profits.

It's not about "worldwide utopia" it's literally "hmm, maybe I shouldn't use my private army to storm my competitor's mansion and illegitimately take his entire life's work on my own, thus establishing a monopoly and squeezing the prices for maximum profit" which would happen immediately in any anarcho-capitalist system. NAP is a meme, but there's a reason why even ancaps recognize it's needed. Similarly, here the whole system relies on ethical responsibility, honor, and integrity of individuals (especially on top).

The way I saw it and translated game mechanics is sort of with how Nietzsche viewed self-improvement and self-discovery: at the end of the day, you forge rules for yourself.

>>21169457
It still largely is. You just (probably) won't get shanked and robbed on the street by the guy who controls the town just because he can get away with it (and still profit).

Besides, there are still soulless traders out there, who'd do anything for profit.

Proposal: We have one moon, same mass as earth to keep it 1:1
BUT we'll have one difference
vt moon is closer. Maybe Mesozoic era distance
This is enough to speed up the planet until a single day is 22-21 hours

Most fuckable ethnic: Pentomos
Least fuckable ethnic: Meatheads

>>21171907
penguins in tropical rainforest.. sweat… imagine the smell…

>>21171907
I'm 100% convinced a crazy sadomasochist brown girl from /meat/ would be a fantastic lay

>>21172430
I'm not into girls with abs and muscles tho

>>21172576
I'm sorry you're so weak.

>>21171574
there are a lot of branches of ancap philosophy, so i don't blame you for not knowing about the countless treatises on how to deal with all of those problems solely through free market interactions, but it is somewhat weird that you are making an ancap system despite not knowing what the NAP is, or what it's supposed to be for. a system that relies on having trust in the morality of others is doomed to fail. i'll stop now, i guess, unless you want to know more.

>>21172819
I do know about those treatises and I do know what the Non-Aggression Principle is. Sadly, those ad-hoc free market solution are band-aids to mask inherent issues with the system.

As I said, /nasfaqg/'s political and economic system just mimics the thread. There's a plenty of unfeasible/fantasy politics in this thread that either wouldn't last in real life or would fail quickly. You trying to pick it apart because I initially said that there would be individuals who'd be against capturing slaves and selling them as human cattle to /meat/ is hilarious.

>>21173046
my main disagreement was over why, but your right, it doesn't matter and i should let you do what you want with it. thanks for entertaining my autism, sorry if it got annoying at any point. i'm not even an ancap, so i shouldn't waste my time defending their system.

>>21166687
https://rentry.org/nya7k
A more complete one done just in time to focus on stream

>>21173845
Thanks for being civil and providing discussion. I think that ultimately it clarified several points that might have been more nebulous before, especially if some anon wishes to later collect and post a more detailed breakdown of /nasfaqg/ culture/society.

You're a young priestess from /meat/.
Adventuring with a party in the far North. Your team consists of an admiral from the island of the clock people, a marksman from the land of armsmiths just south of your homeland, and a mage from the Phoenix Mountains.

Your mission is simple enough; travel North West. Far far North West. Rrats on the grapevine from the Northeners' lips mention a magical castle that fell from the sky. With mages in glass helmets with companion wolves of wheat. You chuckled at the idea at first but after all the wonders you have seen you learnt to accept the world the way it is; wonders at every corner.

You are so far from home, you don't recognise anything your eyes have lain. The plants and animals are unlike anything you could ever imagined. Deers with horns larger than a canoe, flying crocodiles that breathe fire, a cow covered in thick fluffy fur, and snakes with human hands!

Your party had met plenty of resistance from foes, both beasts and intelligent. But they all have one thing in common: None of them have ever heard of or known about your people nor your customs. It is quite a revelation and places things into perspective to be so faraway that your kin are considered myths and rrats. Although, some of the rrats were so obscenely outrageous you thought they were insulting. While you know of the intelligence chapter of the clergy whose purpose is spinning web of lies of your people in faraway lands, these rrats are so outlandish compared to the usual. Such as claiming your people to be man-eating spiders that worship a Moon god. At least the man-eating part was spot-on.

Your team came to a halt. The admiral gave a signal to stay on guard. The marksman took out her rifle and pull the lever. Enemies are close. Out of the bushes and the trees, came down hooded figures. Men of lanky build, taller than a hut, in black and green uniforms. Their faces of hair and puffy white feathers. Beaks clicking as they talk. 'Yuyamuya', the locals called them. Worshippers of a long dead deity. One which you had the opportunity to attend her deiphage ceremony. You recognise them as a race from the Ni-Jiya continent. Why are they up here in the far north of Holovia? Far from their home continent?

The leader of the Yuyamuya posse drew his weapons. A matchlock and a sword. The Phoenix mage gasped at the sight of the sword. Crafted out of a Vtubium alloy of a dead goddess. Such a weapon would have lost its powers. The tall figure clicks his beak. The mage was able to translate the avian lexicon. "After their goddess died, they were cast out. Their people shunned. They migrated north, from the Southern Continent of Ni-Jiya. All the way here, in the forest of the Hoomen. They felt at home here, and it strengthened them." Their motive here is simple. Power. They sensed immense power coming from the Admiral. The will kill to get it.

With a wave of his sword, the Kronie charged against the avianoid. Their blades clashed and insults exchanged. The marksman stood her ground and start shooting at the moving flock. Missing her shots as they cast a blinding spell in her eyes. The mage is occupied in dealing with two combatants.

Leaving you alone with one. The creature towers above you. His beak rattles as he points his matchlock at you. A display of intimidation. However, you smile. These godless bandits are lost as they cling on to a past they cannot reclaim. You've seen your people celebrate the death of their goddess. Now it's your turn to clean up loose ends. Cleave away the last remaining heathens. Today, you will be having poultry for dinner.

You focus your mind and tighten your grip on your staff. Liquid vitubium flows through it, chuubanyl that channels the energy of your patron deity, the abhorrent and eldritch Dentata. You swing your staff down and erupt a mass of spiked vines and fleshy branches from the ground. Snaring and trapping the avianoid. Raising your hand, your finger dances. Like a marionette, the vines move with your fingers. Conducting the writhing mass of flesh and plant, you direct vines to pierce through his orifices, entangle and snare all over his torso. With one last gesture, you order the vines to erect its talons, and unwind. Eviscerating the birdman from the inside-out. Severing into multiple chunks of body parts and organs.

The battle halted as everyone saw your handiwork. With a cry, the leader of the bandit orders a retreat. The battle ended just as you were about to have fun.
Too bad. But at least, you have dinner.

>>21175947
>>21159297
Forgot to anchor

>>21170950
Old /KFP/ rep, I agree with this KFP's voting.

>>21176250
>old
You're not anymore?

>>21177430
I'm not as active here these days. I still lurk and post occasionally but I'm currently busy with family and university related stuff, so I won't be able to write and post as much.

I'll still post occasionally, however I don't want to claim to be the one and only /KFP/ rep incase that disuades other from posting in my stead since, at least for the foreseeable future, I won't be very active here.

>>21175947
Very fun read.
Well now I'm envisioning a Vermintide-esque scenario with this crew. Of course, the kronie is the Saltzpyre.
>>21177864
Mm, real life comes first. Take care, mountainbro.

>>21175947
fun story, but that ability would definitely be unbalanced. maybe we could think of a few ways to make it more balanced in the future. honestly, it might be better for the tendrils to come from your body, as opposed to from the ground itself, with an added requirement that you lose some of your biomass in doing so. imagine temporarily converting all your bodily organs, including your heart and lungs, into a tentacle that can reach out and impale your targets and suck the meat and nutrients out of them, allowing them to take the place of your internal organs while you slowly recover from the otherwise fatal wounds you've just inflicted upon yourself. so accuracy and damage would be the balancing factors here. you don't have enough accuracy with it to put yourself back together, nor do you have the control to be able to control internal systems like blood flow or anything, so the more of it you use, the more you need to be certain that it will hit your target, because you wont be able to survive without a host to parasitize off of while you recover. more details on how to balance it might be necessary, as i'm sure there are some people who would say the mere existence of magic would be unbalanced, and we should all keep magic at a level that is firmly inferior to science in every way.

>>21175947
So having anyone from /meat/ in your party is the equivalent of pic related?

>>21176250
>>21177864
Oh, you are still around?
I didn't knew so I didn't do a prior internal poll, sorry 'bout that.
actually, now that I have you here, what do you think about a formal namechange?
Every time I went to our split to ask about any input the most common one was a change of name to "Takanashi Kiara"" since it is technically the name of the split.
How about a soft-rebranding so none of the lore has to be retconned since the people of the split are called kfp anyways, just on maps the name would be accurate

>>21179326
>sacrifice your own body part for bio related powers
Like Deadman Wonderland's blood magic?

>>21177864
It's okay to have more than one rep
This is a chan project. Not a kool kids klub elitist council

>>21179674
idk, never watched that. i have also never seen parasite, but my understanding of it is that the alien parasite thing can't make more biomass than what they have access to, hence why he main protag's abilities are weaker in comparison due to the fact that only his arm is infected.

>>21179831
That being said, only one rep can vote at a time.

>>21159366
>>21159443
Voting result has concluded: https://rentry.org/np9ke

>>21183005
>D won
Guess the current WIP map is staying then

gentlemen?

>>21184997
Mentlegen?

>>21185246
i need a risu mentlegen now

>>21175947
Nice story! and really nice power if we can get away with it

>>21179326
when it comes to balancing, I do agree that it might be better if the veins come from the priestess instead of the ground (plant humanoid isn't a new thing in this world after all), although I think we can strike a balance between them. One idea I have is that the meaty veins actually do come from the priestess, just that they burrow under the ground before emerging. This should allow her to anchor herself into the ground and avoid getting thrown around by her own moves otherwise.
Perhaps clergy dedicated to Comma will have undergone some kind of transformation that turns them into a mobile plant masquerading as humans (just like Comma), and the veins can be unfolded for combat purposes like what >>21179326 said. Not too sure about them being able to suck blood and nutrients, but having veiny limbs itself is a pretty nice combat advantage. That said, they would be noticeably more fragile than flesh-and-bone limbs, so doing that without care can easily turn the priestess into salad, but hey, maybe that's where the thrills are.
Based on the description in the writing, we can probably say that expanding like that takes a lot of energy and chuubanite effect, so afterwards the priestess will have to eat a lot to replenish the spent energy. She would likely need to consume chuubanite-enriched food (preferably meat) to keep it at a functional level too.

>>21179449
To be fair, that's the norm for war in general. Blood and guts everywhere. Nowadays, blades, arrows and rocks just get replaced by guns, bombs and cannons. /meat/ doesn't like spilling blood and gore everywhere - it would be a waste after all - but in the heat of combat, that's pretty much unavoidable.

>>21185723
Mouth full of nuts kek

>>21186630
YAS PLS someone commission this if not i will do it myself

>>21186242
i say it should be a combination of mai-chan's blessing, and /rose/ transformation, plus a more specialized form of /meat/ chuubanite. having them suck blood and nutrients out of their host isn't by any means the biggest concern for balancing, especially since it gives us the opportunity to say that without that blood and nutrients, the use of this ability would be fatal. the tendrils being weak makes sense, but more from the fact that it's flexible enough to move around, and not for any other reason. i figure it would be plant like, and the difference between wood and a leaf is density. with that said, F=MA why would they need to put in the effort to burrow through a bunch of, at best, loose dirt to root themselves to the ground if the mass of their tendrils is so low? acceleration that gives it the force necessary to go through the ground is not easy to come by. honestly, the only reason you have for keeping the "comes out of the ground" idea is because of the inspiration of the ability, which isn't even from the chuuba herself. and there isn't much point in eating if your stomach was torn to shreds but having chuubanite infused blood pumped into your veins while you recover could definitely help and having a host who has a stomach that you could parasitize off of would also help.

>>21179571
I agree but calling it /KFP/ felt a lot more natural than calling it /Takanashi Kiara/. the main reason I didn't call the split by its actual name is because having a country literally be the leaders name full name just didn't sit right with me. For example imagine how weird it would be if the UK was marked on maps as Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.

Regardless, I'm sure there's some sort of solution. Maybe have the country be named the "Takanashi Kaisereich" with Takanashi Kiara in brackets below it or something?

>>21186692
working on a gift to the risuner people

>>21188873
i would like to imagine risuners are universally loved by all countries

>>21188873
holy shit. praise you anon

>>21179571
>>21188851
Our thread, Sakura Miko, also had the same problem because we also just use the chuuba name, and I figured it would be weird, as you did, and changed it early. What I've been using is Sakuran (=さく欄, Blossom Blog/Thread) through kanji wordplay. Maybe you can do something similar with Kiara's name and German words, though idk German so can't really help.

>>21183005
Ah btw, for question 1, 2 and 4 Sakuran doesn't have a bullet point next to our vote
Also see how short and clean the vote was this time? It's why we needed last week's cleanup

>>21189532
I think Takanashi Kaisereich is still probably the best option, since it keeps the TK initials, but I'll look into see if there's any clever wordplay in German I can pull. I don't speak the language itself but I speak language that's very german adjacent, so I'll let you guys know if I come up with anything.

>>21187497
>why would they need to put in the effort to burrow through a bunch of, at best, loose dirt to root themselves to the ground if the mass of their tendrils is so low?
Because the amount of force they pull is probably quite significant, so without a force to counteract them, the pulling will just pull the vein towards the entwined target instead of pulling them apart. In this case, the force is provided by roots beneath the ground.
I agree that simply burrowing through the ground might not be sufficient, so I propose that not all veins that dig into the ground emerge for the attack, with some serving as roots instead. Assuming they fan out beneath the soil, they could reasonably provide enough counterbalance to exert the force needed. It might not be enough to tear limbs off joints directly (it's hard to find concrete figures on how much force is needed), but maybe cutting done inside the body has severed the harder tissues already.
>honestly, the only reason you have for keeping the "comes out of the ground" idea is because of the inspiration of the ability
Yes, since my point is to try justifying what happens in the story while staying within the bounds of plausibility in this setting, so that it could be considered canon-ish.
>which isn't even from the chuuba herself
I mean, neither is sucking blood out of the target.

>>21189809
pasting accident, corrected

*ahem*
Risuners.

>>21186692
>>21188873
*ahem*
Risuners?
(100000 hours in MS paint)

>>21191419
it's perfect

>>21191583
>>21191689
i'm dumb

>>21191745
very nice

>>21191745
lol

>>21191041
the force to tear limbs off isn't as much as the force required to go through most forms of ground, especially when you pierce it in multiple places, rooting from the ground wouldn't provide enough leverage to justify the act. saying that we would need even more rooting solves nothing, and only makes the problem of balance even worse, unless you count the fact that you have even less flesh to attack your enemy with as a sufficient counterbalance to the kind of force that could go through the ground and out so fast. i think we should probably ditch the need to burrow through the ground entirely. it isn't an important aspect of it, especially since we could say it merely travels above the ground instead of going through it so no energy is wasted while traveling, and it can go upwards faster by pushing off the floor. the fact that the ability isn't from the chuuba herself is why we shouldn't follow it as canon. if there was a clear method that it's supposed to follow, we can use a weakened form of that as our ability, and it would make sense to keep it as close as possible to the original. no justification for something unrelated. plus, sucking blood out of the target is kind of agiven when you have open flesh wrapping around and piercing another target with blood pumping all about. the blood is going to mix either way, but now there is a reason for it to do so. certainly, it isn't as much of a stretch as saying it can go through the ground as though it were going through water.

>>21191745
OGsuner
this is fucking amazing. thank you paintanon

>>21192697
anything for our friends in /risu/

>>21192337
>the fact that the ability isn't from the chuuba herself is why we shouldn't follow it as canon
>sucking blood out of the target is kind of a given
Um...
>when you have open flesh wrapping around and piercing another target with blood pumping all about. the blood is going to mix either way
I'm pretty sure the veins have some kind of skin to keep its flesh and blood inside, else it would be constantly bleeding by definition.

>>21193150
you aren't understanding the first point. if there is canon to follow, then follow the canon, else it is free form. it is not a contradiction to say you shouldn't follow the canon when there is no canon, even if you should when there is. the chuuba who this ability is supposed to represent is not having her canon respected, whereas the canon of something entirely unrelated is, the fact that it is not her canon means it isn't canon worth following, and therefore is free form. we do not need to stick to that interpretation because ther is nothing attaching that interpretation to this chuuba any more than any other interpretation. as for the skin, imagine digging through solid ground with something supposedly weaker than meat and bones, keeping all the blood inside with a few layers of skin, and coming out completely unscratched. next you'll say the skin is some kind of impossibilium or something like that which is completely impervious to damage from burrowing through the ground yet is somehow capable of getting cut by sharp weapons. why are you so attached to the idea of having it burrow? why are all of your suggestions of how to balance it just you making it even more overpowered? the reason it would need to suck blood out of it's host is because it would be constantly bleeding, that's the point. i am suggesting that it should be an overpowered ability that allows the user to tear their body into multiple controllable tendrils that can attack and parasitize off of a host, but they require at least one host to use it, or else they will surely die. there is a power, but it is balanced with an equal or greater cost. that is what i mean when i say balancing. it's just a suggestion, but as it is now i think the idea is way too overpowered for it to fit in this setting. maybe we should discuss this more back at our thread.

>>21191745
Neato. Or maybe I should say, Nutso?

bump.

bump

this thread is usually more active.

>>21200289
Brain juices have ran out

>>21200347
lol, no need to work yourself up, then.

>>21184997
So I was made aware that /∞/ is supposed to have a eastern port in risu.
Is it going to be located in the red circle for ease of transportation or further south?
I will update the lore regardless.

>>21159297
"/nasa/ Station to command. This is Principal on board over."

"Copy that. This is command to /nasa/ station. Over."

"/nasa/ station is confirming launch status. Engines, check. Climate, check. Fusion reactor, check. SLBs, check. Vitubium is hot and ready. Over."

"Support teams are on standby. All citizens have been evacuated into safety bunkers. Clearing one last check around the the danger zone. Everything looks good Over."

"Let's get started. Launch in T-60 seconds."

"30 seconds"

"15"

"10"

"9"

"8"

"7"

"6"

"5"

"4"

"3"

"2"

"1"

"We have lift of!"

/nasa/ Principal's Log:

/nasa/ Station was airborne for about forty-five minutes. The station flew as high as 20 kilometers off of the ground. While falling the station flipped itself upright to where the nose of the station points towards the sky. Most of the time in air was spent guiding the station's fall about 10 kilometers away from the crater. The station lands on its feet. It almost tipped over from the wind but the steering rockets were strong enough to keep the station stable. Once stable the station begins drilling its anchors into the earth. Once the anchors are set the station unfolds its base to cover the feet. The cylinder shaped station then begins to "unfold" into a multi-layered structure with what looks like cities on plates. The plates then anchor themselves with towers around the base of the station. It seems all of the buildings have unfolded in tact. Assessment of damages internally still need to be done. Nevertheless the station bounce is successful.

/nasa/ is going to spend the rest of the day on holiday celebrating the success of the launch. No business will be conducted today. Tonight we party. We understand tomorrow will be a busy day setting up the facilities in the station to run optimally. For now it is time to enjoy our new era of optimism.

>>21200997
WOOOOOO THEY DID IT, THE MADMEN SPACEMEN

>>21200997
party time?

>>21174568
Looks great, will starting playing with it.
>>21183005
Great, mapping efforts can go ahead with no hesitation now.

>>21201339
Yes its party time.

>>21200908
NTA but they still need to name their cities don't they? because i never got a response when i told them to to my knowledge but i also didn't look very hard

>>21200289
It's the board
New holo girls and new splits mean other threads get sent to gay baby jail

>>21200997
tfw /nasa/ wouldve gotten out earlier if Sana streamed

So if /rrat/ is still around I want to ask if they have mushrooms. Since they live in a subterranean cave then I wonder if they have some edible mushrooms.

>>21189062
>Another day in the UN
>A Kronie and Hooman are figting again
>Sides are being made, more voices thrown at one another
>The Hooman pulls out a flintlock while the Kronie unsheathes his clock
>The Dragoon in between them sighs in dissapointment
>Someone yells to stop
>It's the Risuner
>She pulls out an object from her bag
>A rubber ducky
>She then plays with it for an hour straight, getting everyone's attention

>>21193992
>>21193150
>>21192337
>>21191041
>>21187497
>>21186242
>>21179326
Chill, dudes.
I wrote that lore story for fun and rule of cool. Didnt mean to force my own personal headcanon

>>21203626
no worries, we just seem do have differences of opinion on how it would be balanced to fit the setting if it were accepted into it. nobody here denies your work was cool. ty for writing it.

Anyone know when Kronii drops her schedule now? I might have a booty call tomorrow, but not if Kronii streams.

>>21203843
Some of you clocks are pretty cool, don't come to /inf/ tomorrow.

>>21203843
Kronie... your "which thread am I posting at" reps...

>>21203788
Thanks. One idea I have is that gachis of retired chuubas become migratory tribes
Like how Rushi thread is no more and voms thread dont like it when you mention magnet

I'll do risu shit when I get home

>>21204217
Why did I read that as "i'll shit reese's when i get home"

bump.

How popular would rubber duckies be in /risu/ in general?

>>21207380
sacred icons

>>21203843
>I might have a booty call tomorrow, but not if Kronii streams.
Fucking based

Tonight Sanalites party. But I wonder what to do now that the station is out of the crater. I know fuck-all about making maps.

bump

I think as interesting it would be for /nasa/ to trade excess resources I think what /nasa/ needs to do is build facilities for itself. First priority is to tame or buy beasts of burden. We have supplies to get started, but we need to transport supplies to key locations. Since we're SoL on vehicles /nasa/ is going to need horses and oxen. Alternatively we can bother /rbc/ for use of their golems but this might be too much work for them. Tamed oxen would be in high demand.

This blacksmith girl sure is cute... We'll let the generals settle over the next month, but if the new HoloID got countries, where would they end up?

>>21211637
Zeta seems to be a hooman, so it'd be great.

We could probably split up some territory from inactive generals on the Holo-ID side.

>>21213019
I remember back in the very early worldbuilding threads someone had made an activity excel of all the generals, We could probably reference that for changing the size of any general

>>21214058
I think anon was referring to activity within /vtwbg/.

>>21214273
I know that, I just felt it might be relevant.

bump

>>21159297
The interactive map has been updated!
https://vtwbg.github.io/
Changes include the ability to zoom in and download maps, as well as general updates to the map that were voted on in-thread. The new poles aren't in yet since that would screw up the ratio, but once map 3.0 is posted I'll get to work on throwing that in.

>>21200908
>>21201737
These look really good, nice work anon. Lets wait for the /risu/ rep.

im home gentlemen

>>21220395
it's time

>>21220607
so i suppose ill have to name the big villages. I could do a few different things here. Also a few things with the roads. I forgot what program the dude used who made this

>>21220796
the guy you're replying to made it, the program called inkarnate. just draw your changes on the map and i can change them whenever

>>21220796
You're lucky to have villages. /nasa/ just has escape pods and villages for housing. I personally would love to take off my suit when outside. However we already had a couple of Sanalites suffer from near-fatal pollen allergies.

>>21220987
OGsuner
ah how nice. ill check it out right now. are you ri2ner or someone else btw? just curious

>>21221206
Would it be possible to have one of your allies travel to your settlements and assist in constructing larger homes? They wouldn't have all the fancy heating and functions like your pods though, only traditional methods
>>21220395
Good day, wisuner

>>21221211
i'm language anon, from /pyon/
speaking of which, here's a newer PDF of kat noɬ, now with another 0.1 megabyte!:
https://files.catbox.moe/8m251v.pdf

>>21220796
>>21220395
>>21221211
Where do you want this?
>>21200908
The provisional name for the Eastern port would be Silvanus

>>21221413
The problem isn't heating. Its air-filtration. The filters use nanotechnology that need robots to assemble. We can't make any more air-filters for housing because we lost the factories. In one to two generations the air-filters are going to be moot as native born Sanalites won't need air-filters to breathe.

OGsuner
ok im having a massive brainfart right now holy shit. can i download the map you made and edit it or do i have to make a new map. asking because im trying to learn how this thing works

>>21222306
just take the image and draw over it. i would share the map for collaboration but i am going to refrain for now because i have no idea how to

>>21222487
KEK. i tend to over complicate things sometimes. gimme a second ill just do some shit in paint. tomorrow after work ill probably just spend the day dicking around in inkarnate though it looks neat

so something i think should be obvious. Since risu is ID i think it would make sense to go for the indonesian theme and name them like that? Silvanus sounds nice so ill keep that but for the others i think we should keep that ID feel

>>21221211
second risuner here
am sleeping

>>21222599
wait. i can download the .json of the inkarnate map for an offline backup, what if you upload that to inkarnate on your end and you can edit the map from there? do you think that would work? i think a lot of the assets i used aren't free because i pay that 5 dollar subscription fee so i'm not sure

>>21220395
Welcome home!

>>21222487
Does catbox work?

>>21222844
It's probably a name /inf/ made, so there could logically be a local name that may or may not sound like Silvanus.

>>21223001
its alright my dude. ill just use a SE asian generator and type over it using MS paint. If you really want to try it then by all means and once again thanks

>>21223199
name generator. god im a fucking derp today

>>21222153
Ah, that'd be a valid concern... Would it be possible to uninstall the air filtration from your pods and install them into newer homes that are up to standard to contain filtered air, or would that still require automation?

>>21223451
I imagine building air-tight houses where all the air has to go through some kind of space HEPA filter is probably beyond this world's technology.
>tfw underwater housing might end up being safer to first-generation sanalites

>>21223199
i have the .json uploaded to catbox but when you open it, it unloads an ungodly 100 megabytes of text onto your poor ram and i have no idea how to download this clusterfuck into a .json nor am i willing to learn how, i consider this a failed experiment

I think in regards to labor /nasa/ first needs gold. Can't hire labor without a way of paying their wages. Well we could have indentured servitude but /nasa/ does not want to exploit locals. We'd also have to build lodging which heating is no problem. We can build vents with heaters wired up to the solar and fusion grid. Plumbing might not be possible given we're half tundra.

>>21223859
oh and it also immediately crashes your browser lol

>>21223669
Ring up /ggg/, I wonder if they could pull it off on the surface

>>21223859
Right click the link and download the link directly should work, since web browsers tend to try opening .json instead of downloading it by default

>>21175947
I wonder where this party is now
Also
What kind of other 4 team parties you could think of?
Team /here/
>/clg/ Grenadier
>/pyon/ Paladin
>/pkg/ Artificer
>/asp/ Warlock

>>21224223
risuners for druids all day

>>21223451
>>21223669
Yes we could remove the filters from pods but the housing needs to be just as air-tight. Without aluminum, silicone, and steel that housing is not viable. But again its only a problem to Gen-0 Sanalites. Later generations will be immune to the native allergies eventually. Especially mixed natives.

>>21224392
Not /risu/ner but I can see a blooming friendship on the horizon...

>>21224009
i got it to work, but the .json file seems to be user specific :(

>>21224825
its ok. im almost done with the naming in paint. gimme just a few more minutes

>>21222153
>native born Sanalites won't need air-filters to breathe.
are they going to adapt or do we get to interbreed? ,':)

>>21218518
So should lack of response be taken as tacit approval?

>>21175947
I assume /nasa/ is the castle in the sky with wolves made of wheat? Well /nasa/ station is not much of a castle.

>>21225050
>lack of response
ummmmm

>>21225050
Let's ask
>>21222306
Hey OGsuner, you're good with >>21200908 right? Naming and stuff can be later, as long as we know this map is alright.

>>21225493
Our oshi hasn't given us a schedule so we're small brain right now, please understand

Every passing day, the spacemen are tempted more and more to abandon their code

>>21225785
Also we're needy. Very needy.

>>21225673
something i noticed is that yes thats where our own port would be. but since the road will be much farther south i think it would only make logical sense to just make new ones farther down south closer to the road exits

>>21226224
i should clarify. blue is our currently only port city. the road will be further south. so i was gonna say make new establishments so we actually have 2 ports o the west side of the country. 1 where it currently and 2 where the road will come out of.

>>21226224
>>21226508
Duly noted! Thank you for the feedback. So you mean in total, two ports on the west? How about the east, then?

>>21226625
only one is necessary. We face a lot more countries to the west so naturally it would be more guarded. east is much safer due to being closer to inf. So only one is really necessary IMO

>>21226755
Ahhhh, I see. Yeah that makes sense. We'll keep that in mind, thank you.

>>21200908
>>21201737
So 2 ports west, 1 port east.

>>21225050
>>21225493
>>21226155
I'm afraid our thread prematurely shot our wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I'm afraid we have something of a mess on our hands.

What's the difference between the two western ports locations? Is it the landing terrain,

I'm not a rep, but I'm development manager OGsuner

>>21226224
>>21226755
I was under the impression you'd have your own port to the east, we'd just use that one to ferry supplies through that to the blue circle area.

Which is why I was thrown off when I was told we had a port on eastern coast, because the only two good areas are either one where a risu settlement was already placed, or the purple circle, which doesn't have a clear path to the ∞ port city.

So we're on the same page do you want us to.

A. only have the one city port in the blue circle?
B. Have that a second port on the east cost either in the red or purple circle?

>>21226882
and the second port of course will be right at the road exit, cuz that makes sense

>>21227004
Addendum
Replace east with north, and west with south.

>>21227004
well im taking the road into account which i dont believe this map currently does. That purple dot will be the beginning of the road and it will be essentially a big straight path to the other side. gimme just a bit ill draw a simple line in paint

>>21227212
The only issue I'd bring up is that even if you create a direct route. It would be twice as long from purple to blue, than red to blue.

Maybe we could make a compromise where risu had a small port town where red was that ∞ was allowed to modernize?
Or would you prefer we build in purple?

>>21227553
maybe my brain is just going full pepega again. but isnt the road supposed to be like, down south. Hold on a second let me post my updated map to clear up any confusion

>>21227917
Here, I'll give you what's on my mind.
Would you prefer red or purple?

Ok map with names i put as well as blue line showing where inf road would be. If it makes it easier i can say the road can just be up to the north if it makes it easier. it doesnt have to be sount i just assumed that was the plan

>>21228117
The road is pretty close to Kenkerto and Sabantangan.
So would we still have our own ports?

>>21228117
Sil"anus" lel.
Sorry, that was cultural-insensitive. My apologies.
heh, anus.

OGsuner
i was looking at the map too much and forgot that sabatangan/kenkerto would be in the forest and wouldnt be ports. Let me re draw the line.

Road placement's going to be tricky since I assume you don't want us to close to the Temple of Risu, or any of the other towns.

How can you say 'silver heads' in Indonesian? Maybe /Infinity/ port can be called that.

>>21228728
temple of risu is a definite no. ill say the start can be somewhat close to kenkerto, not too close but ill let it be.

Based on what's revealed of Map 3, how big is Risu state?

>>21228928
i believe risu is similar to the size of japan?

>>21228928
About the length of the main island of Japan, but twice as thick.

>>21228928
do we want to go on a per pixel basis because i calculated how many miles on pixel is at the equator. I'm sure there's an equation of how the warping of displaying this on a 2D plane would change from how far away your are from the equator, but that's not where my autism lies

>>21228849
Malay/Indo translations and variations
Silver = Perak (Pirak/Prak)
Head = Kepala (Kapala), not native, borrowed from sanskrit

>>21228921
Here are 3 suggestions, red, green and purple.
Green is near the temple, but it also goes through Pasuma, which could help that town.

>>21228849
>>21229160
We already have a name for the city.
Thank you though.

OGsuner
ok last post before i get some sleep. ill be doing more stuff tomorrow. i was mind boggled the whole time on whether road will be north or south. So i made 2 possible roads and ill deal with it tomorrow. Todays been a weird day desu. Anyway goodnight everyone

what the fuck is going on

>>21229300
Would you consider red or a mixture of your southern route and purple?
>>21229286

ill put lore for each major settlement but pasuma is considered the most sacred one being in close proximity to risus temple. so that will be a no. i think the red line would make the most sense, ok goodnight for real though i need to sleep

>>21229300
Not /risu/ner but feels like the southern route would be better since it's further from the monsoon area (so weather should be a bit more stable), and it's closer to /mep/ so connecting to them would be easier in that area.

>>21229333
Road planning.

>>21229286
Alright
Since youre using Indo, here are some grammar rules for austronesian based languages.
>Adjectives
Unlike indo-euros, where Adjective is before Noun, in Malayics it's Adjective after Noun
For example:
Big = Besar
Tree = Pokok
It will be 'pokok besar'
Just switch arrangements.
Bird red. Man fiery. Rain heavy.
>Repetitions
Probably the one rule seen as a joke by indo-euros kek. Austronesian languages love repetition. From Malagasy all the way to Hawaii.
Repetition shows two meanings, pluralness or creating a new meaning
Orang = people
Orang-orang = every person/everyone
Orang-orang = scarecrow
Satu = One
Satu-satu = Specifically
>Prefixes
Prefixes are everything in Malayics. It can change meanings related to the root word. Some of the prefixes also show context (party A to party B, party A or party B, etc)
Ajar = teach
Pengajar = teacher
Pelajar = student
Mengajar = teaching
Terajar = taught, already taught
Diajar = taught by, taught from
Mempelajari = to be a student of

>>21229451
Unless you to follow this >>21229487 suggestion, to which I'd say we should go with the purple road, since it's since it's further away from Kenkero and doesn't fork towards the temple.
We can just use the red road.

>>21230151
I appreciate it, but if we're having sister cities constructed by /∞/ on Risu land, I feel the best names for them would be Ceres and Demeter.

I was originally going to name the single port city Cernunnos, but because we have two now. I'd figure Ceres and Demeter would be the best fitting given their deities of nature, and equivalents to each other in Greek and Roman myth.
How does Greek and Romans play into this world you might ask?
Rule of cool is in effect.

I'm back from lunch
I have no idea how to plan for roads but kudos to those that do

Question: What are the fruits of each nation? /nasa/ can grow berries and pine nuts in the south. But who has oranges, apples, bananas, etc.?

>>21230546
Having it be built in a environment that isn't too destructive to said roads usually helps, since it reduces the cost for maintenance. Ideally, the road should also be built around existing traffic to make use of the trade already around, but that isn't strictly necessary (as it seems /inf/ is interested in building the two cities from scratch, and the business can certainly draw locals in). I would say the southern route is better due to the environmental factor (and being closer to /mep/), although I guess islanders like /inf/ probably is not too unused to heavy rain (maybe not monsoon-level but still). Given that risuners generally live on trees, building a new city in the more sparse southwest probably can help stimulate the economy there as well.

>>21230924
Picrel is pretty good at estimating what kind of fruits would be common in what general climate.
>oranges
Usually in tropical, subtropical, and Mediterranean climates.
>apples
Probably easier to find in more temperate and continental climates.
>banana
Mostly limited to the tropics.

/meat/ has 2 out of the 3 listed, as well as some other tropical fruits if /nasa/'s interested in trading them as well

>>21231023
Actually, are we building port CITIES or just ports? I imagined just ports and checkpoints to make sure the goods go where they need to, and Risuner natives can set up settlements around them for business and even residence

>>21232219
If the ports see a decent amount of trade (which they should do if the project ends up not a failure), then they *will* become cities even if they were originally meant to be pure port facilities. Loading and unloading can take a while, after all, and ships and crew will need their maintenance, resupply and R&R, so people will naturally set up shops nearby to provide them to make a profit, and it's so much easier to do that when you live just nearby (especially before the time of automobiles).

>>21232379
Yeah that's what I mean. Kronies set up port facilities and barracks for the workers and sailors, Risuners set up shops and residence around it, then it becomes a proper city over time. Well, that's what I had in mind at least.

>>21232219
>>21232379
>>21232555
Ceres (new name for Cernunnos) will be a port city because it'll be one of the major trade hubs along the Hololive Central Ocean (Whatever the name is) and the main base of operations for ∞'s Central Fleet that operates out of Ceres.

Demeter will be a port town that mainly exists to ferry supplies across Risu to Ceres.

>>21232555
Yeah, what I meant to say is that the result's pretty much the same, since whether the initial buildings include commercial and residential districts, they will eventually grow out of it. I think odds are /inf/'s original city plans should include some commercial and residential buildings (the workers and sailors will need to eat and sleep somewhere), which given enough time with become the "downtown" of the ports, where the surrounding settlements grow in a more organic (if less prestigious) manner.

>>21232219
>>21233046
>>21233046
This needs to be updated with the location and name change, but otherwise, everything is the same.
https://rentry.org/8qp9x

>>21233309
One other update Ceres, (formally Cernunnos) also has full shipbuilding/shipyard facilities under an agreement with risu where they can use them to build their own ships, and ∞ also has access to risu's forests to construct new ships.

*enters UN building*
Excuse me. Excuse me. May I have everybody's attention. Ahem...
*flashes open coat revealing chuubanite bombs*
KRONII VULT!!
*suicide bombs*

>>21235718
>jobs like his oshi

>>21235718
Come on! That's the third /ouro/ jihadist attack this year

Equestria At War is a great way of demonstrating low fantasy high tech application of vtubium

>>21200997
A wandering ronin looks up from his campfire meal atop the woody hillside at the sound, then the light, then the arrow shooting towards the sky.

"...The fuck is that?"

He ponders for a moment before taking another bite of his jerky.

"I miss my Mori."

>>21237832
How do TT play into your lore, if they do

>>21238604
They don't, they're not a /vt/ topic. It would be like including Robert Pattinson in the /holoX/ lore.

>>21239764
Yeah but /vt/ hates them and a few deadbeats defend them. And Mori has interacted with them quite a bit (in character)

>>21239869
Maybe it's like another day of 'I hate it when your god visits my god!'

>>21239869
Falseflaggers defend them. If you want to discuss TT, feel free to do it on /morig/ instead of taking up precious posts in the comfy /vtwbg/ thread.

>>21239908
>"Troubling news from the latest divination hinting at our goddess interacting with filthy foreign gods, more at 11"
I guess it does fit on the exclusive axis of that political compass thing a while ago?

>>21237832
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>21202887
We live in a fortified monastery in the mountains, we however maintain a network of tunnels to allow for an ease of passage in the mountainous terrain.
However I'd say yes, mushroom farming is one of the practices of the monk order among other practices.
-/rrat/

>>21240457
Skaven?

>>21240457
That sounds pretty cool! Anything written on the fungiculture so far?

>>21241235
Mayhaps? The thread was pretty split between humans, nekomimis, and just full on rat people. Honestly depends on the fantasy level /vtwbg/ ends up with. The theme for /rrat/ is "multiple tribes under one"

>>21243267
Nothing written on agriculture or economy. Anything specific you'd like clarified?

>>21240457
/rrat/! Good thing you're here!
I fouond a spec-bio project you may love!
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/conceptual_evolution/member-project-diyu-t3513.html

>>21244066
Mostly just curious, since I do like agricultural things like that. Currently the setting does allow rat people, so you can have that if you want.

>>21244870
Now that! That is inspiring me to write something! Many thanks anon!
Been mostly idle as I wait for the world to settle, but something /rrat/ lore specific is easily writable

>/rrat/ caverns are so huge they have their own weather like a terrarium
>the 'birds' that fly are squids
Sounds kino

bump

Meanwhile in /pcg/

Slow night tonight...

>>21252585
burger wake up hours, give it some time

>>21250355
Bump the bun.
.

People have to wageslave that 9 to 5 as well.

>>21252782
Wage hours in EU and Burgerland
Sleepo beepo hours in SEA and Oceania
Right now the only free time zones are pajeets and ruskies
...kinda explains board quality drop

OGsuner on his lunch break
I'll do a lot of shit now that I had a good night's rest and clarify/fix all the shit related to the road.

>>21257920
do we even have indians on this board?

Time for /nasa/ to go back to work. We're still looking for domesticated Oxen and other strong beasts of burden that are adapted to cold. We'll pay gold and silver.

fellas, i am pleased to announce that we are spoiling the risuners further

>>21260978
Good
Risuners are our little siblings

>>21261141
Risuners are the little step sisters we all want.

>>21261271
>>21261141
>>21260978
Can we still tickle them?

>>21261334
we better be able to

https://youtu.be/MabxYIQdllo

I don't know what to do for /nasa/ outside of wait in real time for projects to complete. I guess I can try to hand draw a map. Sadly I don't have the IRL cash to buy freemium currency to fast forward wait time. I want the other Sanalites to write their own stories if they want to. Might just be time for me to step away for a week or three.

>>21261271
I hope you are not expecting them to get stuck somewhere.

>>21260978
Beautiful work anon.

>>21263724
I'm a sanallite, even if they do get stuck, i CAN'T DO ANYTHING

>>21264250
I'm not familiar with your lore, can you even... pleasure yourselves?

>>21265233
those poor bread dogs...

>>21261607
Thats it I'm getting myself a risuner nasfaq gf

>>21265347
Oh. OHHH. Doggy...

>>21265233
Oh, definitely. When in space, we do have a strict reproduction program, due to our space station having a hard limit on occupants when flying, but we can still masturbate or have sex as much as we want, protection is just mandatory. When the station makes landfall and opens up, the program is loosened up since we can house as much as 5x as many adult Sanallites. The grand directive does prohibit reproduction with natives though, as we are nothing more than brief visitors usually. It could introduce mutations to the species that could lead to their eventual downfall.

>>21265347
>>21265547
Those rumors are nothing but Mozzie slander, do not believe them!

>>21265900
Not everyone is going to obey the prime directive on reproduction with natives. Sadly the only way the prime directive says to species mixers is to kill the parents and their offspring.

>>21266017
Wouldn't that make species mixers to escape to other lands? Probably neutral threads?
It would explain the presence of Sanalites in /nasfaqg/...

>>21265900
Ah, okay, that seem... logical.

>>21266077
Its a dilemma. On one hand the genetic material means Sanalites will have a better time surviving on this planet. On the other hand the Prime Directive doesn't consider permanent settlements on worlds. Permanent settlements are minimum 99 year bases. As after 99 years you have built too much stuff to take with you on the station. Which means you already altered the planet.

We're stuck here for 99 years because we have to rebuild infrastructure to repair the station. Which means the Prime Directive is in question on whether or not /nasa/ will have to declare a new home world or not. We're still keeping tech to ourselves. However cross-breeding with natives may become inevitable in 20-30 years time. And if there's more cross bred natives than /nasa/ inhabitants then they will easily take over the station for themselves. Which would make us a rogue station to homeworld. It really depends how cut-off /nasa/ is to homeworld in the other dimension. If we're truly alone then species mixing could have very little confidence because of the new homeworld.

Not trying to bring certain real world politics in. This is all context for the station and its small population.

>>21266887
Adding to this many Gen-0 Sanalites have already left /nasa/ permanently to settle in other territories with other oshis. Since they abandoned Sana they do not care to follow the prime directive anymore. These rogue Sanalites might have already sold off blueprints of space age technology already. Without a GPS we'll have to track down the rogues the old fashioned way. And even then they're under protection of other states. Which means if we hunt them and get caught then /nasa/ has effectively declared war. So Prime Directive is starting to make less sense as it is directly putting our nation in conflict. Its a good ruleset for visiting worlds. Not so much for settling them.

>>21261334
>>21261401
OGsuner.......um. Sure i guess. Kek
>>21265900
you have regulations meanwhile risuners can just have sex whenever they want as long as its consensual (risuners very open about sexuality especially when discussing their "nuts")

>>21267517
This might be a hard concept to grasp for /risu/ but overpopulation very bad when you have a small liveable space. Especially when there's no more air to breathe.

>>21267444
>>21266887
>>21266077
>>21266017
>>21265900
Anchoring Questioning the Prime Directive. >>21159297

>>21267800
We have yet to reach that problem. Were still not that populated but were going through a massive population boom. We have the food production and air isnt a problem because......TREES

>>21267989
Most breathable air doesn't come from trees.

>>21268039

>>21268222
Phytoplankton is responsible for 80% of the oxygen production.

>>21268303
Trees are still important. They make the air taste good.

>>21267989
>it's the /meat/ version of this pic
I think it's more an air quality thing than "risuners taking all muh oxygen", although I guess after a certain point they might have to start dabbling in more traditional agriculture... or figure out a way to make the nuts grow faster. then again by then they can probably just import more food elsewhere

>>21268943
/risu/ entire land has like 2x to 5x food production due to the trees being fucking magic, depending on how close you are to the temple. Ill anchor the details later but basically risus magic works like roots of a tree and weakens the farther out it gets. With risuners having many animals to hunt, fish, food farms, and all the shit that grows in the trees its gonna be a damn long time before risuners run out of food. Were swimming in it

OGsuner
Ok so now that im back home and settled up i can process all of this. To my understanding /inf/ wants to build a road. At the end of each road will be a port built by /inf/.
As of right now the only port in /risu/ is silvanus which is only used for small fishing boats. Once /inf/ came we made our deal
Im going to propose that the road be somewhere near its original position. Southern of the temple of risu and close to /mep/.
Also going to propose /inf/ will be allowed to make ports on each end of the roads. Of course there can be housing nearby which would eventually form a settlement/city
Ive had all day to think about this and just want to clear up any miscommunication. Ill clarify the things that fucked me up.
The map with the blue red and purple circles were what really got me since it was to my understanding the road would be in the southern portion of risu.
I hadnt thought of /inf/ going to silvanus or any parts of risu just yet and for some reason assumed they would just make basecamp on the beach.
With the road completed and a port on each side there will be silvanus which is owned by risu and then the 2 /inf/ sister cities/ports on each side totaling risu ports up to 3.
I saw the picture they drew of silvanus and that shit looks fucking cool. So i like the idea of risuners getting a port upgrade from what they already had to accomodate bigger boats.
Ill do lore later on each major settlement but for now silvanus is the only settlement thats built on the beach and is visible from the seas. They utilize fishing far more than anyone else in risu.
My final declaration is going with the purple line in the picture posted /here/. That way it will be possible to make that divert into /mep/ easier and is a good enough distance away from the temple.
Ill be here all day and tomorrows my day off. Ill be happy to answer any questions

forgot to link. purple line in this >>21229286

>>21267989
oh look it's /meat/'s edit

>>21269830
/risu/ sees cute tummy to tickle.
/meat/ sees prime cut ribs.

>>21269921
/meat/ lore scares me. a bit ngl. Fuck it im gonna check some of their oshis cuz why the fuck not.

>>21269921
Nonsense, we see delectable tummy to tickle too! It gives the meat a chewy texture.

How interested would /infinity/ be in making ice-cream? Ice-cream made from Kronii milk.

>>21270059
Hi, not the rep, but a Kronii. Kronii's Milk production and commercial rules are being flesh out right now. Make derivative products might be a possibility, I will mention it to the thread when most mappers are awake. From where is this proposal coming?

>>21270204
I'm curious about the mechanics of Kronii milk. Is this product uh, named literally? Or it's the milk of priestesses or something?

>>21159260 (Me)
Won't be available for the next few hours, so if this thread gets archived before then, someone please make the new OP and add /inf/'s backup rep

>>21269409
I have not been in the last thread negotiations, but I'm happy to see the trade roads deals flesh out. I will inform the rest of Kronies at the time most of them are available to map endeavors.
>>21270280
I can give you a link to our last proposal if you are interested, it is on review state right now.

>>21270388
Yeah, I'd like to see that.

For ice-cream all you need is an ice-cream maker, a pan to make custard, egg whites, milk, sugar, vanilla extract, ice, and rock-salt. Alternatively you can add cocoa powder, caramel, strawberry juice and diced strawberries, etc.

>>21270420

>>/vt/thread/S20904013#p20905731

>>/vt/thread/S20904013#p20905776

>>21269991
which part?
the slave raids?
the human sacrifices and cannibalism?
or the apocalyptic war and deicide against corpo chuubas?

Actual geologist here. Should I work on the map? I see a big bunch of things to change that would make more sense, but that would also take time and autism to do.

>/nasa/'s principal gets caught sexual tourism in /rbc/ with cyborg girlfriend.

>>21270836
Hell yeah, autism is what this project is all about. What do you have in mind? We are striving for authenticity, but there are a couple allowances for Rule of Cool here and there.

>>21270836
'Autism!' is like a war cry in this thread, so...

>>21270836
depends on your autism powers i guess. do what you want to do. As a risuner would you mind telling me what risu would have fellow geoanon? In terms of rocks/gemstones specifically? Note that most of risu is sub tropical rainforest and the rest of the details should be up in the top.

Ok, Finally got around to inputing numbers for our weapons that our Principal gave us a bit back. I also lowered the carrying capacity of the CR-USTs due to feedback. If you have any further input(specially for the guns, please i know jack shit about them) feel free to add it before i anchor this.

https://rentry.org/NasaWeaponryKindaFinalized

>>21270902
Sanalite: It's not a breach of protocol if she's not organic right?!

>>21271155
>cyborg

>>21271155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yngc8DB86U

>>21271155
Dammit, I meant this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yngc8DB86U

Dammit, I meant this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPzvr9S34pc

>>21271394
Get some sleep, gramps. You need it.

>>21271213
>>21271368
>>21271394
Gramps senility reps...

>>21271412
I actually do.
>>21271474
Damn you youngsters don't enjoy Zappa anymore?

Monkey paw, I wish that /vtwbg/ gets more users
>Finger curls
>/vtwbg/ Lore EXPLAINED videos appear on youtube

>>21271527
It'd all be lost by that point

>>21271527
https://youtu.be/atv8pf0jBNE
You brought this upon us!

>>21271527
Thanks. I hate reddit.

>>21271527
That got me thinking
If this idea gets big and starts spilling onto other boards, what would its IP status be?
The setting is original but the cornerstones like vtubers are all existing corporate IPs.
Unless we somehow go around by making bootleg Not!Sora, Not!Kizuna, Not!Kiara, Not!Tokino

>>21271800
We're not making money and we're all anon, so no one can do shit.

>>21271824
a man can dream, bro!

i just want pretty gems. praying to geoanon

>>21271877
Pat pat. There there little squirrel. You will get your wish

>>21271877
Hmmnm yes according to my advanced geomineralical analysis, /risu/ is absolutely full of coprolites, just an incredible concentration of the stuff. You can barely take a step without walking on some coprolite somewhere, there's just coprolite everywhere.

Guess Risuners are the opposite of Pentomos
>Pentomos want to be cute, gets lewded by everyone
>Risuners want to be lewd, treated innocently by everyone

>>21271903
its ok if i dont. i just fucking love gemstones. and because magic is really cool and wozards of course have gemstones on the end of their staffs. just so many things i could do with shiny rocks. Risu is of course heavily on the magic end of this world. I already have plans for whatever color gemstone i would have. For. Every. Color. IM FUCKING READY

Anons! Never visit Ame country!
Stay as far away as you could!

I just hope /nasa/ can at least have iron and zinc to build with. If we can't get aluminum without importing them at least we can have galvanized steel.

>>21271946
We do like being nice and friendly. Just because we have hig sex drives doesnt mean were lewd. We all have needs. And wtf were cute as shit. Lean slender bodies, squirrel tails, bruh were adorable.
>>21271941
This made me kek. Thanks but not gemstone. I want the shiny rocks

>>21271071
Keep in mind a good number of arms available aren't operational, but can be broken down into spare parts. The gear thats scrapped can only be melted down into materials.

>>21272188
Numbers i put in went off the previous log that documented what was still operational. basically most of the difference between pre and post crash numbers can either be repaired or scrapped for metals and plastic (with a smaller % being good enough to repair, most are just scrap materials now)

>>21272513
I'll have to look at the numbers again. Right now I have to get started prepping for dinner.

>>21272786
Oh, i should also mention that i set the number of D0U-GH suits to 8.6k, with 600 being in the vault while the other 8k were out of it at the time (atm they are kinda a hard cap on how many of us there can be, so don't want it being too low).
F0R-K, CR01-SS4NT and B4-GUET-TE numbers are also higher than in the log because we had some before we got to the vault.