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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Nijisanji Auditions have opened up, applications are due on the 31st.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1499610591953969153
Hololive Auditions have opened up too
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting and keep streaming.

Previous Thread: >>21140927

>> No.21197759
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love all of you!
good luck with your reps

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>>21195938
This was a deceptively difficult task
Do you like them?
I will give you whichever versions you think look cool or change it if you'd like.

>> No.21198138

Whens the /asp amongus collab

>> No.21198179

>>21197363
Cat not yellow enough

>> No.21198211

>>21198138
omg that would be fun

>> No.21199002

should i buy a used iphone 11 for 200-400$ for vtubing or is it recommended to use a newer iphone?

>> No.21199147

8 days and no views on my Niji Audition

>> No.21199256

>>21199002
Go lower
iPhone XR should be fine.

>> No.21199412

>>21198046
Looking good! I think I'll take the third one but with 'starting soon' instead of 'cant run' and without the slender so I can just slap my png on it

>> No.21199451

>>21199147
Been a couple days and same here. I wonder if they really do a number filter on things. My audition last time around also had no views even to this day. And anons mentioning in these threads all their multitalented applications also not getting views just adds to the suspicion.

>> No.21199685

>>21199451
Let's cross our first fingers and just hope they're turbo turbo busy I suppose.

>> No.21200026 [SPOILER] 
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Can I get some quick criticism?
Dropped my png a couple of days ago that had a helmet on, got told the helmet was a bad idea and that the boobs were too far apart.

I want to go for a haunted armor kind of idea, in this design I want to go for a smoke kind of character living in a spacesuit .

What can I change? (I definitely need to clean up the lines)

>> No.21200110

>>21200026
>What can I change?
why do you think anything needs changing?

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>>21199412
Sorry, I'm confused, the third one has starting soon. Would you like me to take the third one, erase slenderman, erase the starting soon, and ass it instead of the can't run?
I can draw your character in there if you'd like.
>>21196343
Progress

>> No.21200224

>>21200026
>Can I get some quick criticism?
Loomis, Hogarth, and maybe some Lauricella.
Just fix that and you're solid.

>> No.21200300

>>21200026
>>21200224
Anon, this is stage pre 0 drawing.
If you are passionate about art please don't let this discourage you from pursuing it further, but if you want to be a vtuber, ask someone to draw for you.

>> No.21200427

>>21200159
Your art is phenomenal anon, great job. I missed the time window for your original offer, but if you feel comfortable saying here, do you offer commissions?

>> No.21200553

>>21200159
Cute!!

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>>21200159
Oh I didn't notice the starting soon because of the trees lmao I'm blind.

>take the third one, erase slenderman, erase the starting soon, and add it instead of the can't run?
Yeah!

>I can draw your character in there if you'd like.
Sure! picrel for minimalist ver of my png. Feel free to put your own twist. It's not really finalized.

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>>21200427
Thank you. I do.
I always wanted to do some art for a vtuber, I am willing to be as accommodating as possible on prices.
I offer traditional, digital, and mixed artwork, as well as animation and design.
https://twitter.com/x0xGABRIELx0x
My DMs are always open

>> No.21201660

>>21200026
Bro i'm gonna be very honest
Your drawing skills are pretty bad, i would suggest posting something like a moodboard instead of your drawing skills which might make it look bad regardless of what the design is supposed to be
Are you going to be a babi?

>> No.21202164

>>21200110
I like it myself or I wont have show it, but I wanted to make sure it look boring or unoriginal from an outsider perspective

>> No.21202263

>>21200300
Im hella passionate , been persuing this for a embarrassing long time (really need to bite the bullet and get serious about it), got any tips for who to ask?

>> No.21202414

>>21202263
Your problem is that you don't understand what drawing is.
You need to study on fundamentals so that you will be drawing forms, not symbols, and you have to give yourself honest feedback as if you like what you are looking at or not. Looking at your work and judging it honestly makes the difference between an artist that prospers or stagnates.
The generic recommendation is to read the books of andrew loomis.

>> No.21202419

>>21201660
what is babi? seen it a couple of times, haven't gotten what it means full figured out

>> No.21202489

>>21202419
A male voice using a female character model
Not the same thing as a trans person

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>>21200660
I've done the fixes you've asked for, but I changed the slenderman to be your avatar.
I don't mind keeping on tweaking it if you like this direction.
>Small head
>Evil head
>Large head

>> No.21202968

>>21202489
ooooh, yeah im a babi.
Wanted to go for a tomboy for that reason, didn't think it would smart to go for super cutesy when I have a real bassy loud voice

>> No.21202992

>>21202575
Nice! Third one is perfect.

>> No.21203069

>>21202968
It's not really a good idea to go babi at all, but good luck

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>>21202992
Sweet.
Do you mind posting your channel?

>> No.21203102
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hi bodysuit anon im drawing you again for fun
im sending the unrendered one cause i think i might cut off my hand before actually finishing it
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone miyosama hahahhaha

>> No.21203161

>>21203102
This is looking super cute.
Nice work!
t. ms paint drawfren

>> No.21203207

>>21203161
thanks man we should all do a drawpile stream one day assuming i ever get a computer hahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhaha

>> No.21203447

>>21203102
Cute! Wait… what’s with the face?

>> No.21203490

>>21203447
...she knows
>>21203207
What do you currently draw on?

>> No.21203534

>>21203447
my transformation is almost complete and the entire state of florida will feel my wrath
aka i can only draw evil things because i have become a sick twisted monster

>> No.21203562

>>21203098
Thanks! I mainly do youtube singstuff as of now so no twitch and I'm still shy about posting my channel around here. I'll follow you on your socials though. Thanks again!

>> No.21203575

>>21203490
clip studio paint and cool broken huion tablet
i use the family computer yaaaaaaaayyy har har

>> No.21203629

>>21199147
>>21199451
>>21199685
If I had to guess, they'll bulk watch after the closing date. It's likely going to be tiresome work. Take the time to look at what you submitted and improve upon it and consider applying for Holo too.

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>>21203562
Sure thing.
ganbare.
Bonus on me

>> No.21203885

How do you come up with a “formal” name?
I’m still struggling to figure something out that makes sense to me… Should I just throw caution to the wind and use whatever I think of next?

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>>21203575
>Family computer
condolences

>> No.21203976

>>21203885
Most names have some meanings. If you think about a what makes your work special or special to you and look for names that mean just that, you might find just the right thing.

>> No.21204010

>>21203629
>It's likely going to be tiresome work.
As a guy who used to read resumes, hard yes. Even more so with all the videos in this case. Let's all pray for the poor intern-kun's mental health

>> No.21204108

>>21203910
you dont even know
7 people in my family and god knows how many decades worth of pictures and videos are on this thing and my geriatric cat has messed with it idk how many times im surprised it hasnt blown up yet

>> No.21204245

>>21204108
>decades
Anon get a backup as soon as humanly possible, HDDs living more than a decade are incredibly rare.

>> No.21204343

>>21203885
Just use whatever you want, the biggest chuubas are all just using past usernames anyway. They've got meaning sure but the meaning is always specific to the streamer that most viewers know nothing about. Like what is Silvervale? Zentreya? They're usernames they've used.

Being Berrywinter Morizaki has

>> No.21204404

>>21203885
I made my Vtuber name a pun relating to my theme, made into somewhat of a 'name' format. You don't have to worry about names too much. If it can be shorted to around 2 syllables or less its good.

>> No.21204426

>>21204343
I guess I can just continue using my (probably) unpronounceable username then, lol.

>> No.21204455

>>21204404
hi batat!

>> No.21204533

>>21204245
i live my life on the edge

>> No.21204601

>>21203102
Menhera love

>> No.21204666

>>21204455
Hi I Am 100% TheReal batat

>> No.21204701

>>21204343
somehow ate part of my post

>Being Berrywinter Morzaki has little to no meaning outside of what you forced it to mean, being Asmongold holds the "legacy" of it just being a cool name you thought up as a kid. It's got meaning to you which is the only person it needs to hold meaning to.

>> No.21204782

>>21204666
Why did you posts those penises, satan?

>> No.21205000

>>21204010
And even than, it's going to be weeks before anyone gets a reply. I doubt the new gen won't debut until at least till the end of Summer. They gotta:

>Prep the talent's contract
>Assign models or make modifications to fit those who got hired
>Send out software and hardware (face capture tech etc)
>Prepare the debut assets (video package, overlays, music rights etc)
>File trade marks and other NDA nonsense

>> No.21205649

>>21204701
I’m not going to post it here, but the username that I’m using right now is a conglomeration of another handle I’ve used, romaji shorthand (WTM, FBK etc) and an an abbreviated JP character as a number.

>> No.21206253

I've finished coping with the fact I'll never be a voice actor or a vtuber. What's a good way to support my friend's pngtuber efforts?

>> No.21206440

>>21206253
You have got a couple of decades to refine yourself as a human, no need to give up if you don't want to. It's not a race, just try your hardest and enjoy the way.
The best thing you can do to support your friend is be there for them and be someone that they can talk to. You can try learning additional skills that will push them forward like editing, music production, art...

>> No.21206570

>>21206440
I didn't expect to read something encouraging from this fucking site. Thanks. Hope your efforts bear fruit anon.

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>>21206570
NTA but... 4chins can be helpful when it needs to be.
I've seen it a fair bit of times here in /asp/.

>> No.21207256

>>21199451
its basically guaranteed, and even by some miracle they dont number filter apps, numbers and nepotism are the biggest 2 factors when it comes to being hired for nijisanji. holo might potentially be a bit more lenient on the numbers in favor of talent and personality but you still need at minimum like 20k yt subs or equivalent on twitch. this is deductive reasoning from analyzing all the past lives, basically not a single 2 view has made it, some smaller numbers have made it on the first waves but at this point you are competing to stand next to a vtuber with nearly 4 mil subs and arguably the most popular male western vtuber, the bar has been raised to sky high

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>>21194641

>> No.21207964

Huh, Twitch started recommending me and it's a huge difference. I'm getting views on categories that barely have any followers on them when I used to get like 3 or so views on them.

>> No.21208454

>>21207256
>but you still need at minimum like 20k yt subs or equivalent on twitch
Who was the least subbed holostar before applying?

>> No.21208471

gunna attempt to be algorithm fagging and chase some trends with pre recorded content, none of the stuff that i personally really liked ever caught much attention, so im throwing in the towel and going to attempt to number fag. i have a list of shit i might want to try, let me know what you think and if you have suggestions

tierlists and top 5s
click baity video essays (why the batman is the WORST DC movie, etc)
hentai and general coombait shit (fefe, all the weird cropped hentai in youtube posts)
retarded challenges(mr beast watching videos for 20 hours, beating elden ring with no weapons, etc)

i know this is horrendous bottom of the barrel soulless shit, but i really want to break the number filter ASAP some how to get corpos to consider my app as a legitimate contender.

>> No.21208588

>>21208471
You'll have better luck doing lip syncs on Tiktok, and blowing up with the algo lottery if you want views

>> No.21208829

>>21208454
the industry has moved way past that point my friend, 2 years ago they might've been more receptive to no names, but early hololive was still massively nepotism and ex NND heavy. holostars PL numbers dont matter when gura and kronii and to some extent vox proved that numerically, their PL subs directly transfer and even exponentially grow and make them the cream of the crop in their generation

>> No.21209009

>>21208588
yeah i might have to do tiktok too, but at the least i want something that atleast relates to a subject matter i care about and lipsyncs couldnt be further from that. i might be able to do some coombait drawing tutorials there tho, i know crappy art tutorials get a lot of clicks as well

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I have two options for tonight:
>draw two new PNGs for talking/not talking and figure out final minor design details/lock design down, tweak colours a little
or
>try to figure out game capture problems/buy new HD60 s+ to replace the HD 60S/plan future portable streaming/VR/living room PC

>> No.21210185

>>21210131
Can you even stream without the second?

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>>21194641
These are very cute
>>21200159
>>21196343
More progress.
I should have checked my hubris and kept it at pixel art appropriate resolutions.
I am going to sleep soon, does the anon who asked for it have socials?

>> No.21210366

>>21210185
Second... option? Yes, but I won't be able to stream console which is what I've been wanting to do more than PC games, of which I only have Minecraft, PSO2:NG (haven't started yet), and Halo Infinite (also haven't started yet)

>> No.21210443

>>21210324
Yeah, I do @azu2yn, twitch.tv/azu2yn
Thanks again, it looks good so far!

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>>21210366
Have you ever thought of instead playing Noita the Roguelike for the Mentally Deranged?

>> No.21210785

>>21210324
Also forgot to mention, the left side in my OG image is the more recent colours (orange eyes), but I may change the hairpin bit to be less complex (likely sticking with just a heart or star shape), the current one that you have is fine though!

>> No.21210849

>>21210501
Nope, I saw.a little bit of the Albino review but holy shit lmao

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>>21210849
Would ya like to?!

Seriously though both are pretty important it sounds like it's whatever you deem more important. A quality png did me wonders.

>> No.21211180

>>21208471
i wouldn't recommend retarded challenges, they can be incredibly tiresome and time consuming, especially since it's a thing you want to do just for numbers
the other content is at least easy to make
remember to at least enjoy a little bit of it and remember that that kind of content attracts an specific crowd sometimes

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>>21210785
I was about to protest, but it looks better.
Do you mind if I @ you on twitter with the progress work? I am trying to do social media better. I think this is a standard interaction.
I will ignore the hair pin for now, please tell me later what you would like it to be.

>> No.21211858

>>21211614
It’s no problem at all. Feel free!

>> No.21212167

>>21206253
become a artist or l2d or editor or musicfag

>> No.21212868

no views on my app but i put one it as soon as niji opened. do i risk getting blacklisted for life by putting in another app before it closes?

>> No.21214223
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i actually rendered it awwsome enjoy everybody art is my prison

>> No.21214384

>>21214223
CUTE

>> No.21214519

>>21214223
Very cute work, anon.

>> No.21216285

>>21214223
nicely done

>> No.21216622
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21216622

How the fuck do not catch feelings and not lose sight of my goals? I finally made some fellow chuuba friends, but some of them are of the opposite sex which I normally have no contact with. The chemicals being released into my brain as a result are fucking me up. I wish I wasn't this pathetic. I just want to be a good streamer and help out my viewers.

>> No.21216684

>>21216622
awareness is the first step. try to treat them as if they're just other guys and think about chillin out instead of tryna fuck them

>> No.21216710

>>21216622
Understand that this a business first and foremost in the long-term. The avatar and persona is an extension to who they are and may not outright represent themselves as a whole. Be sensible anon

>> No.21216887

>>21214384
>>21214519
>>21216285
thanks everyone heart love kiss face hug squeeze romance insane explosion
also now i hate how it looks so im pretending it doesnt exist anymore time to draw draw draw draw draw draw

>> No.21217117

>>21216622
All e-girls are unironically fat, and the ones who aren't and are socially conservative aren't even white.
Hopefully these will turn you off, yeah?

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>>21216684
>>21216710
Thanks anons, I'll try harder to talk myself out of doing anything stupid.
>>21217117
I just like the feeling of girls actually being nice to me. I apologize for being this sorry of an excuse for a human being.

>> No.21217525

>>21216622
Lift weights.

>> No.21217739

>>21216622
>>21217525
Yeah, I agree with this anon. Start lifting weights until you're confident enough to make your move.

>> No.21218278

>>21217117
>implying being socially conservative and white are innately appealing

>> No.21219074

>>21218278
It's more of a statement, as well as a fact.

>> No.21220130

How do you find a target audience? I thought I wanted to target my fellow countrymen but after interacting with indie VTubers and fans from my country, I found that I’m too different from them personality-wise to expect to build a sizable audience from them.

>> No.21221338

>>21214223
Very cute

>> No.21222319

>>21200026
Unironically Loomis and other art instructors courses.
Design it's not the matter, but if you can afford a live2d modeler do it or do a version on vroid yourself.
Right now you characther doesn't have consistent proportions neither the materials such as the spacesuit can be deciphered from this. If you are really rushed on do streaming, do stream reps in a simplified or chibi version of your characther or don't use a model yet, just do stream reps while you get a better version of your chuuba.
If you want to draw a chuuba anyways, use a lot of stabilizer or help yourself with basic shapes.
Good luck.

>> No.21222353

>>21220130
i imagine finding content creators that do similar things would be a base to start from. For example, Koefficient does fighting games and a lot of reacting to vtuber content with a decent following. Since I like fg stuff, his community is a gold mine for me to dig into.

>> No.21222562

>>21217261
Maybe you just need a really loving male friend, I'll be your friend if you want, you sound kinda autistic.

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21222613

So, I've been starting with Vroid ever since VTuber Maker on Steam went to shit (pic related is what my model looks like so far) and I've downloaded a few free accessories from Booth. How exactly do I add them to my model ?

I've heard people talk about using Unity before, is that what I'm supposed to be using ?

>> No.21223404

>>21222613
>guy in hoodie

>> No.21223664

>>21223404
I still haven't finished it yet lol.

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>>21223404
>most popular males are guys in hoodies
The hoodie retardation needs to stop. It's not a bad design because it's got a hoodie, it's a bad design because it's an amateur vroid.

>> No.21223783

>>21216622
>>21217261
Unironically have more interaction with girls irl. Once you get used to it, you would stabilize and always auto friendzone girls subconsciously despite their looks/brains/voice etc. Been there before anon, good luck

>> No.21223853

>>21223670
>someone popular did X therefore X is the reason of their popularity

>> No.21223905

>>21223670
psst hey, you are responding to bait right now

>> No.21224069

>>21223664
do you want to be a chuuba or just larp your own OC?

>> No.21224406

>>21223905
You'd be surprised how much hoodie brainrot has infected /asp/ies. They see a hoodie and immediately think its' a bad design due to that.

>> No.21224553

>>21224406
9 times out of 10 they are bad designs

>> No.21224599

>>21224069
Not him but what's the difference?

>> No.21224784

>>21224553
And they're not bad designs because of the hoodie, they're just bad designs period.

>> No.21225530

>>21216622
A mix of all the advice you've got but in a way you need to hear
>be professional
Fight your urges for the sake of comfortable, non predatory professional relationships
>Mold your body and mind
>slowly develop your understanding that the opposite gender is just human, most are ugly, some are cool, and the ones that are special will stick to you as long as you are true to yourself, your heart, and your passions.
Don't stress too much of beat yourself up either, just be kind and don't try to get tail.

>> No.21225539

>>21222353
feels almost bad for him, his vtuber stuff dwarfs his fighting game stuff completely. hes been consistent grinding this shit for like 9 years and had to trend hop onto vtubers to actually see results.

be smart with the algorithm and content guys, niggas be pumping out content for 9 years and STILL gets sub 10k views with 200k subs

>> No.21225825

>>21224784
So, you're telling me the one major article of clothing they have in common cannot be the main issue? You are more willing to use the exceptions as a basis rather than the overall demographic?
Are you in denial?

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>>21225825
Yes? Typically when we see a hoodie male here it's a vroid which just look like shit 90% of the time anyway especially with default assets. The avatar would look bad if it was a vroid "guy in a suit" or a vroid.

"guy in a hoodie" or "guy in a suit" isn't the reason these are bad because there's perfectly fine designs out there aside from just shxtou or Kenji that aren't just the amateur things we see here that have those traits. Most designs posted here in general aren't good because they're not drawn by good artists except for a few. The art style and skill of the artist matters a lot more than the clothing does.

>> No.21226597

>>21226523
>or a vroid guy in armor

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what a fucking pointless discussion focused on semantics
you yourself are saying they are still bad designs anyway
there is a reason there is a "basic clothing in a normal human" stigma, you can technically make any design work but everyone with half a brain knows that already, it's just way harder to make "guy in a hoodie" interesting visually when it's made by amateurs
>tldr don't make a person in basic clothing unless you really know what you are doing

>> No.21227201

>>21226523
The thing is, as far as fashion goes, hoodies are the least fashionable thing you can wear. Especially in regard to males, it is generally considered to be lazy fashion.
A guy in a suit is a lame design because it is the epitome of "I can't think of a cool male design, but every guy looks good in a suit so I'll use that."
People who use hoodies and suits tend to be uncreative individuals who don't know the first thing about a good design, where as most people who do and decide to add a hoodie make sure that the hoodie is not the main and only draw.

>> No.21227330

>>21224599
if you want to be a chuuba focus on the skills needed to be a good chuuba. too many aspies waste weeks working on their design and not putting in a single streaming rep. if they're just doing it to larp then no one cares and then can knock themselves out.

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I blame Miyo for this.
… now I definitely want to implement a weapon or something. Maybe in design v2 when I’m situated and established.

>> No.21227705

>>21227442
Sick energy blades onegai

>> No.21227751

Reminder that good audition tapes are essentially channel trailers at it's core. Go look up channel trailers on youtube for some big named creators and vtubers and you'll get an idea what makes a good audition tape or not.

If you can watch 20-30 seconds and figure out what the person's like within that timeframe, then it's a good audition tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzLoNtvNIE4

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I posted here a few days ago. Sorry if this is weird.

I found out recently my husband of 7 years was cheating on me, basically developed a relationship with an likely-underaged loli vtuber (who is a fairly small streamer that does sexual asmr content). I posted a thread here a few days ago as I don't know anything about vtubing and was really confused.

Someone said something in the thread that has been standing out in my mind... which was "is this an elaborate marketing scheme for the Vtuber you are about to launch?" Which... it definitely wasn't, but it got me thinking.

Are there any english vtubers that fit this niche? A dumpy 30-something neglected wife/mom? Where does someone go if they want to consume a vtuber of that nature?

It just feels like all the hags you all post are still young/cutesy. Most vtubers seem to be the same character just different theme slightly. What does someone do if they want what I describe?

>> No.21227990

>>21227751
As noted in the last thread, most demo reels don't get watched past the 30 second mark, and those who do are only because they've made it past the first round of auditions by having the first 30 really pop.

>> No.21228029

post good male designs because this formal-wear/hoodie retardation is getting out of and. all the most popular males are suit/hoodie guys. Is it the reason they're popular of course not, but maybe JUST MAYBE /asp/ies just don't know what people consider good designs. everyone seems to enjoy all these males in hoodies and males in formal wear just fine outside this board because it has more to do with how the art is done than what the character is wearing. if you're a shit artist your design will be shit no matter what unless it's just heavily stylized

>> No.21228109

>>21227751
Good advice but the video you posted was shite. If this was an audition tape and I was the selector, i'd easily pass this one up.

>> No.21228174

>>21228109
There's like 20 other threads spread your performative hatred for Mori. Don't bring that shit here.

>> No.21228262

What do /asp/ies consider "good" male vtuber designs then because they seem to have a problem with the most popular ones, which definitely has nothing to do with the rampant contrarianism here

>> No.21228437

>>21228262
I think the critique you're reading comes from someone who neither streams nor watches that many vtubers. A lot of the criticism that gets posted in /asp/ is just flatout bad.

>> No.21228494

>>21228262
cute dresses(?)

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>tfw poorfag but thinking seriously of giving 200000 yen to DSP for a model
Please guys convince me to not do it.

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>>21228494
Based
I miss him bros, so much.

>> No.21228846

Most of the male chuubas out there from the top all the way to the bottom are using either hoodie or formal-wear variants. They're the most popular for a reason and there's a reason people pick them, they both have mass appeal (which includes appealing to the person who designs it/has it designed for them), the same as all the huge tit models or cutesy magical girl-styled models people go with. There's plenty more options out there but most people don't go with it because it doesn't appeal to them as much as the more popular options.

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>>21228029
I could easily post non hoodie outfits that could also double as designs, but that doesn't keep in line with the board theme.
>Is it the reason they're popular of course not, but maybe JUST MAYBE /asp/ies just don't know what people consider good designs.
You answered yourself in the same line. Males don't have to bank on their character design as much because they are completely capable of carrying themselves with their personality.
Anyways, here's Mashiro for a non hoodie example.
>>21228846
>Most of the male chuubas out there from the top all the way to the bottom are using either hoodie or formal-wear variants.
So when your only choices are between guy in hoodie or guy in hoodie, you're telling me guy in hoodie wins? Whoa. Damn, hoodies are awesome.

>> No.21229110

>>21228174
No, idc if it's Mori or literally anybody else, the video highlights the unfunniest portions of her streams. 30 seconds alone is enough to make me cringe.

>> No.21229211

>>21227705
I might go for Yellow Heart style gauntlets since that initial suggestion a long whip ago, or might do something else.
I might also actually hire an artist and a rigger for v2, either live2d or 3D. Might be cool.

>> No.21229339

>>21228109
>>21228174
i gotta agree, her kazoo meme is almost like an inside joke and its too self referential to use as an intro. her main selling point is her unique music style and they used it in the latter half of the video? theres a reason her RIP song on debut completely rocked the vtubing world, it gave her a mythical status due to its success.

>> No.21229387

>>21229211
Long while ago*

>> No.21230399

>>21229110
>>21229339
Regardless of your reasoning, this isn't the place to bitch about Callie.

>> No.21230583

>>21230399
nigga reread my post >>21229339
was any of that bitching? why the fuck are you brainlessly white knighting in /asp/ you fucking cretin?

>> No.21230703

>>21230583
Stop shitting up the thread.

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male designs aren't the problem. it's your art style. find a good artist and pay the money for a good male character.

>> No.21230808

>if I repeat it enough it'll be true

>> No.21230811

>>21165007
>>21166391
>>21167114
Thank you for your responses! Most streams are usually after a 8-10 hour work day, so I'm always streaming on fumes, but I'll try to work on the energy.
I also figured it was about time to start trying to network, so I guess I can focus on that when my off days come again.

>> No.21230854

>>21229339
This. She's known for doing a lot of interesting stuff but we never see any of it in that trailer which is bizarre. For any anons editing their audition videos, here's some tips:
>Loud doesn't equal funny unless you're quiet 99% of the time. If your video is just clips of you screaming cut mid scream, aint nobody is going to find that funny.
>Highlighting exclusively one style of content is okay but extremely boring. You don't want people to think "Oh look, another trailer of a vtuber at the bottom right hand corner playing Dead by Daylight, so unique so original so funny.". Show off a range of different things you provide in your streams, maybe you did irl cooking one time or had a pretend dinner date or hosted a comedy show.
>You don't have to keep it PG. If you get hired they might tell you to tone it down but up to that point, swear like a sailor to your hearts content (until YouTube algorithm shits on your chest).
>Long intros can fuck off. Having Faze-style YouTube intros in 2022 is a MASSIVE off put. Keep it simple, keep it under 3 seconds if you absolutely must.
>If your mic quality is shit in a specific clip but the video itself is funny, don't use it. Mic quality is the earliest/quickest gatekeep for overall enjoyment.
>Never use inside jokes in your video. If you do, make sure it's simple to grasp AND show it at least twice throughout the video. Having a one off clip of you laughing at a cup of MUG root beer is confusing.
>"I posted my video but it's still at zero views, what the heck??!". VTubers aren't exactly a rarity these days and you'll never be the only applicant to apply. There's thousands. Probably tens of thousands. If you spent all day watching 5 minute long videos, after 10 hours you'd only have seen 120 videos. Some corporations might use automatic filtering to weed out the 2views. Just don't be discouraged, be patient and heck, if they didn't choose you maybe they never even saw it.
>For audition tapes specifically, keep in mind you're making it for 30+ year old corpos not the usual demographic. Among Sus jokes and TikTok-tier humor 'can' work but they usually expect a bit of maturity.

>> No.21231261

>>21230808
>it's a bad design
"I don't like it." doesn't make it a bad design . "It's lazy" isn't a real thing. There's skilled artists who make hoodie guys look great and they're clearly not lazy. There's skilled artist who make guys in suits look great as well, clearly not lazy. /asp/ies and this board in general are the absolute worst people to judge a design because it's just non-stop contrarianism.

I think Kenji has an outstanding design and I don't even like his content, but he's still just a guy in a hoodie. The difference between his design as it is and if he were an aspie is the fact that it's not just a vroid-asset verison nor was it made by an artist with a lower skill level. If I saw the same exact design on a default vroid using default vroid assets I'd say it's a shit avatar too, but not because of the fucking hoodie. It's hard to make just about ANY Vroid look good.

>> No.21231415 [DELETED] 

>>21202968
What is a babi?

>> No.21231490

>>21230703
why do you retards not realize that replying is perpetuating the thread being shitted up? just fucking stop replying and the chain stops there. its like telling people to shut up when they're done talking, you are literally giving them a reason to retaliate. if you are fucking smart maybe you keep your hands off the fucking keyboard and dont give me a reason to keep shitting up the thread

>> No.21231701

one of your aspies with the best numbers is a male with a scarf. stop bitching about design and get a good artist like him.

>> No.21231740

>>21231490
Stop being a bitch.

>> No.21231789

>>21231261
>"It's lazy" isn't a real thing.
from a fashion standpoint, yes, it is you dunce.
>There's skilled artists who make hoodie guys look great and they're clearly not lazy.
and how much of that can be attributed to the art style rather than the actual outfit?
>There's skilled artist who make guys in suits look great as well, clearly not lazy.
Again, from a fashion standpoint, it IS lazy. What don't you get? Read a fashion book for fucks sake. VRoid has nothing to do with it.
Also I just looked up Kenji, and the hoodie isn't even the main draw you disingenuous dumbass. The Sun Wukong aesthetic he's going for is what pull's it all together, you could remove the hood off the jacket and it would change nothing.
Let me guess? Every other example you pull up is going to be a character where they are wearing a jacket with a hood, where the hood is quite literally meaningless to the design and can be removed with 0 repercussions?
Do you actually understand what a design is?

>> No.21231819

popular thing gets overused by person who has no idea how to use it, gets a reputation for being shit because of people who don't know how to use it.
happened with Unity, happened with RPGMaker, happens with all sorts of thing, hoodies is just the vtuber version of that

>> No.21231825

>>21231789
>from a fashion standpoint, it IS lazy
we're talking about vtubers not fashion

>> No.21231909

>>21231825
And do tell what category the vtuber's outfit falls under?
Or are you merely pretending?

>> No.21231980

>>21227963
Hold on.
You consider watching a streamer cheating?

>> No.21232006

>>21231909
>And do tell what category the vtuber's outfit falls under?
it falls under "shit that doesn't matter"

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somehow bumped into this guy while looking for elden ring vids

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>>21231701
you're absolutely correct there but most of the people posting here don't know who that is
also his artist is like, super fucking booked but god damn Jouvru's work is nice

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>>21232006
>no argument
I accept your concession.

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>>21231789
heres a video game character skin designed by fucking LV themselves, does this shit look good to you?

>> No.21232396

>>21232370
god this looks so fucking obnoxious
i hate riot so god damn much

>> No.21232583

>>21231789
>The Sun Wukong aesthetic he's going for is what pull's it all together
ah yes the tail you almost never see and the clouds on his headphones.

>> No.21232586

>>21232128
this is how you get fujos.
>vampire
>catboy in a suit and tie
>tits
>catboy with a hoodie
>some guy with a hall pass lanyard
designs are shit but the art is appealing. shut the fuck up about design and just cash out for a good artist.

>> No.21232631

Post biggest turn offs. I'll start
>PNG tuber

>> No.21232642

>>21231789
show us some good male designs, we're waiting

>> No.21232648

>>21232370
The color scheme is good, the only problem you seem to have is with the context in which that design was formed. This is an outfit designed for a character in a fictional rap/hip hop band, and if you weren't being disingenuous, you would know that these sorts of outfits are not only common in that scene, but much "worse."

>> No.21232668

>>21232586
top middle is straight up a FFXIV character and I'm ready to punch his throat over that fact alone

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>>21232648
People were also clamoring for this and Senna's skins, and oh look how much better the design looks here compared to the pic you posted despite it being the same skin. Insane how much art style impacts how something looks...

>> No.21232874

>>21227751
While I agree that would work as a good audition tape, it's not the impression you get hearing the anecdotes of the corpos that made it. Specifically for Niji they put a lot of emphasis on the written portion and including a song in their tape.

>> No.21232896

>>21232583
now read a bit more because the argument is already made for you.
>>21232642
Already posted Mashiro, figure it out.
>>21232817
I never said it was bad, what are you on about?
imagine shitting the bed this hard over a lack of understanding in fashion.

>> No.21233040

I am feeling insanely menhera, does it ever end? I have the most intense imposter syndrome right now, and every time I stream I feel like I have to throw up. I just finished up a stream and today was particularly bad, I had to mute myself multiple times because I started gagging. It felt like I was working customer service, chatting with my viewers and laughing the same as usual while feeling sick all during it. What is happening? I don't want to be menhera but my mental state keeps spiraling :( Sorry for the rant aspies

>> No.21233078

>>21232896
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Great, any other examples?

>> No.21233099

>>21233040
if you don't like streaming stop streaming.

>> No.21233137
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I want to make Youtube videos while i save to upgrade my internet. I have never written in my life and I am ESL, so I am struggling to even come up with an opening to the video. Does anyone have writing tips?

>> No.21233166

>>21233137
Watch content similar to what you want to make.

>> No.21233260

>>21233040
Take a break and rediscover why you enjoy what you once did.

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>>21233166
yeah, i am doing that. I know practice makes perfect and that I have to fail 10 times before I get good enough, but it's still discouraging.

>> No.21233376

>>21232586
Is there any efficient way to find good artists who aren't booked out the ass?

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>>21233078
>refusing to take advantage of the 2d medium
>what's a twink
Not my fault if you're an idiot, the outfit would still work on a designed male.
Heres another example.

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>>21232648
>>21232817
except this specific LV variant is actual trash compared to her standard one, which i consider to be a genuinely good design. I like hip hop fashion and i like sneaker culture, but this LV skin is explicitly ugly even in the splash art. LV qiyana is also one of the least used pretige skins in the game, dead ass no one liked how ugly it was

>> No.21233469

>>21233376
fujoshi twitter

>> No.21233552

>>21233396
There's a difference between astolfo, felix, etc style "draw guy call it girl" and an actual twink, which is what you posted in th is image.

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>>21232128
those are ugly as sin and i am a fujo. Pic related is what most fujos find attractive.

>> No.21233706

>>21233552
And yet you get away with the former by classifying it as the latter in a 2d medium, you dolt.
So long as it doesn't carry any explicit feminine traits like tits, large hips and ass, etc. than it can be called a boy.
SMTV did the same, deal with it. it's a perk of the medium.

>> No.21233724

>>21233636
So do you want to bully him or...? what's the appeal?

>> No.21233816

>>21233636
it doesn't matter because going either shota or ikemen aspies still need to do their voice reps. if you just talk like a generic burger weeb it's going to turn everyone off from you no matter how good the art is.

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>>21233376
hire me

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>>21233724
>what's the appeal?
it's a good looking cute boy, simple as

>> No.21233886

>>21214223
C-cute!!

>> No.21233912

>>21233137
You have to practice writing but you might as well practice editing too because that's a huge part of it too. Just do without intros for now if you really want to get a start.

>> No.21233973

>>21233724
NTA but he doesn't look like Bubi (a joke)

>> No.21233999

>>21233816

Vocaroo time. How many cute boys we got ITT

>> No.21234191

>>21207964
Is there a trick to getting recommend?

>> No.21234277

>>21234191
be Game Rank 1 on good games with a decent amount of viewers

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i am also a fujo. it doesn't take an insane amount of anything to be appealing, but we do notice attention to detail. even the simplest things. is your collarbone peeking out? uoh. beauty marks or freckles? my metaphorical dick is diamonds. shit like chest cutout/back cutout is a bit more than average male aspies would think about since i don't think their first train of thought in a design is "how do i objectify myself for the female gaze"

you can be a hoodie guy, just have good art and be individual enough to stand out is the bare minimum is all this fujo asks. picrel, i feel like i've been seeing an influx of eastern themed male indies, and i like it. this may be an easier design route to take too, just play games like jx3 or some adjacent game with character customization, make an outfit you like and use it as a ref for when you commission things

>> No.21234385

>>21233999
Too tired to record a new one
https://voca.ro/19L4FkffV1r0

>> No.21234430

>>21233999
I have the voice of a radio announcer, I cannot be your fujobait, anon.

>> No.21234470

>>21216622
As a woman I would urge you NOT to share your feelings with whatever vtuber you've fallen for. Serious love confessions from men you hardly know is legitimately scary, you'll creep the fuck out of them and they'll probably ghost you to stay safe.

>> No.21234489

>>21234356
how do you feel about Objectheads?

>> No.21234602

>>21234356
you'll need a translator but there's a ton of danmei artists who aren't booked until 2024 who would be able to draw live2d males for you if you just take the time to search around.

>> No.21234772

>>21227963
This has to be the most bizarre post I've ever seen on asp

>> No.21234789

>>21228516
>poorfag
>2000$ purchase
?????
I can talk you out of it pretty easy. You are looking for an excuse why you have not started. If you are not interesting with a png you won't be much better with the bells and whistles. If you are good you could shine even with a badly drawn png.

>> No.21234804

>>21234772
Have you seen Yellow Cat's ERP logs?

>> No.21234809

>>21233816
Maybe I should hire a vocal coach to try to get my voice to sound better, especially since trying to talk in a unnatural tone of voice makes me unconsciously talk like a robot.

>> No.21234895

>>21234489
can be sexy, depending on how you design the rest of the body, but would be more dependent on you yourself carrying the character rather than having a preexisting buff from a cute face

>>21234602
same for thai and vietnamese artists. there is a huge thai/viet artist base for danmei and they create some pretty impressive illustrations- you would need to do your research and get comfortable with a translator, but you could probably get a pretty good live2d model for what would otherwise be chump change in the US

get to it male aspies, i have money in my pocket and i want to groom you when you debut

>> No.21235047

>>21233999
https://voca.ro/1k2yDcUPjll1

>> No.21235104

>>21233999
I always forget how much fun I have recording myself, sorry if I went on a tangent.
https://vocaroo.com/1eiFNHuwKWqx

>> No.21235125

>>21235047
UOOOOOOHHHHHHH WILLY WACKY AND SILLY I LOVE WILLY UOOOOOOOHHHHHH

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>>21233376
>>21233824
Hire me first, then hire him

>> No.21235169

>>21228516
Why do you want a model?

>> No.21235178

>>21233999
there were a bunch of boys who posted their twitch links last thread; most of them were quoted in >>21167114

>> No.21235231

>>21234772
It's my absolute favorite for the time being. Just too fucking funny

>> No.21235311

>>21227963
I'd watch that can i groom you?

>> No.21235458

>>21234895
Please fujo mommy tell me what kind of man you want me to be

>> No.21235505

Guy in a hoodie IS bad design.
What on earth are you retards talking about?

Character design is comprehensive, it goes beyond just the visual elements everyone is focusing on here.
Even if guy in a hoodie gets to meet some minimum standard of quality it will still never be GOOD. That's not to say it's IMPORTANT though, because it really isn't.

A good design is something that actively adds a lot of value to a performance besides the quality of the work, but you still need to fully realize your performance first.

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>>21235505
laughs at you behind 800k+ subs
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWL_9MaaMy8ObTDPmVHemjA

>> No.21235614

>>21235505
I'm not reading all of that either congrats or sorry it happened

>> No.21235656

>>21233999
Posted a vocaroo ages ago and was told to tone down my hype for cute ladies. I'm the irl embodiment of the resident clown perverted sidekick so I'm ngmi as a cute boy, aiming to be more relatable to the boys

>> No.21235706

>>21235505
Anon got some weird hill to die on.
Hoodies are fine, you guys are out here looking for a fight. Go work out.
Seriously.

>> No.21235716

>>21235574
>VRChat streamer
invalidated

>> No.21235776

>moving goalposts the instant he's proven wrong

>> No.21235823

>>21235505
Did you read the thread? The argument has already been made and won.

>> No.21235907

>>21235458
you can be any kind of man you want, just know that my weaknesses are dogboys, beauty marks, nape showing, and feet. i will not elaborate.

>> No.21235997
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>>21233999
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SOUND LIKE AN NPC

>> No.21236076

>>21235997
>I SOUND LIKE AN NPC
9 times out of 10 you sound this way because you're talking with your face and not your chest.

>> No.21236088

>>21233999
Not me, my voice isn't cute or sexy. I'm NGMI

>> No.21236156

>>21235907
NTA but i've been with a fujo gf for like 6 years, i already know exactly that my design will probably not appeal to any female audience. Just like my taste in guys does not overlap with anything she's into. It's quite a funny situation.

>> No.21236206

>>21235047
hot

>> No.21236300

>>21235505
what about girls in a hoodie?

>> No.21236332

>>21236156
ahh yeah i think i get what you mean, i think i've been in a similar dynamic before. $5 says you both think similar types of girls are cute though

>> No.21236355

>>21236076
what does this even mean

>> No.21236400

>>21236355
look it up

>> No.21236450

>>21233999
I haven't posted a vocaroo yet but I'd rather wait until my roommates are out of the house before I unleash my full range
i've been accused of moaning while talking normally so there's a chance that people might think I'm cute

>> No.21236562

>>21236400
nta but I assume speaking from your face means forward placement and that's basically what people need to do in theatre anyway, more chest resonance will net you a deep and rich voice but with less projection

>> No.21236616

>>21236355
https://youtu.be/z4SW_xMueXU?t=95

>> No.21236630

>>21236332
Not entirely inaccurate, when overwatch came out we both simped for mei, that was a funny coincidence. for me it was an easy pick because they both have the same body type (if you were still allowed to call mei chubby), for her it's a little harder because she doesn't like herself being overweight (neither does her doctor), but i know deep down she kinda enjoys the extra meat. ok if i'm ex-posting on /asp/ i should really go to bed.

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>>21233999
https://voca.ro/1nN4aWy8Yter

You've been warned.

>> No.21236671

>>21236616
does this matter at all if i am a girl, can I make my voice cuter or something?

>> No.21236714

>>21236671
Yes, but please don't do some stupid fake anime girl voice.

>> No.21236939

>>21236714
no, i don't like uwu speech

>> No.21237048

>>21236939
what don't you like about your voice?

>> No.21237294

I figured out how to automate viewers submitting questions and having them appear on stream in minutes with now action on me :) no mods needed!

Figured I'd share if some tech savvy aspies folx wanna give it a go: https://twitter.com/NgoziMai/status/1508311490427711491?s=20&t=fgKDTJdXycASWGQW7ZVk6Q

>> No.21237518

>>21235125
>>21236206
https://voca.ro/1vgGeEn7paBg

>> No.21237538

>>21237048
nothing really, it's fine. I just want to get a more expressive voice, if that makes sense.

>> No.21237811
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>>21237538
Keeping the energy up during a stream helps. I'm not one to really feign a reaction, but what helps me is I'll set up "goals" for the stream in my head. I'm usually quite relaxed otherwise.

Example: I was streaming Kirby on Friday and I made a bit out of getting the rarest gachapon out of the machine, and when I finally got it after like 30 minutes I was genuinely stoked because 1) I achieved my goal and 2) I didn't have to fuck around with that stupid machine anymore. I'm pretty hard on myself, but I'd say it ended up being entertaining at least.

That's just one thing works for me.

>> No.21237817

>>21237294
Wow so stupid and useless, who would waste their time working on this?
Streamlabs integrated chat highlights for twitch, there's extensions for chrome that let you do the same thing on youtube and can probably work with any other live chat as a source.
You should totally split your chat.
So many idiots these days.

>> No.21237848

>>21237817
Shut up, she's cute and I want to breed.

>> No.21237870

>>21237848
So you're a horny idiot blinded by horny.

Fair enough.

>> No.21237889

how do i sound like a literal child like kobo? i dont mean loli voice that adult actresses do for anime, i mean actual child

>> No.21237899

>>21237870
At least you understand, now get out of here before you ruin my chances with her.

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21237977

>>21237899
Too late, I'm already omw to cream her pies dude.

>> No.21238039

>>21237889
listen to examples and mimic them with your voice

>> No.21238061

/asp/, how do I deal with viewer jealousy? I literally can't stop seething every time I see that one of my regulars or semi-regulars are subbed to someone else, but are not subbed to me.

>> No.21238080

>>21237817
lol it's for a talk show, friend. I want my viewers to be able to submit questions for me and my guest to answer later in the show. Marshmallow didn't fulfill what I needed, so I made my own

Check out my talk show on Wednesday if you're curious why I needed it lol or don't, do you senpai

>> No.21238098

>>21238061
give up and stop streaming.

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>>21237977
Oh yeah? Can you outrun a bullet?

>> No.21238192

>>21238061
probably gift subbed? idk man its not a big deal focus more on the fact that your oshi is getting dicked down by some chad

>> No.21238232

>>21230854
This advice rocks

>> No.21238237

>>21238061
You should consider not seething

>> No.21238336

>>21238080
Damn you never heard of a chat bot with commands before?
You really live like this?
Damn bitch, you stupid.

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21238355

>>21238169
HEY! don't talk to me you SONUNAVABITCH

I'M THE LIGHTBRINGER

and I'm gonna rail your oshi!

>> No.21238385

>>21238192
Joke's on you, my oshi is probably the one railing your oshi
>probably gift subbed
Nah I properly cross-referenced it. There's literally zero chance they are gifted for two-three months in a row

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>>21238355
WE COULD'VE BEEN FRIENDS
PALS EVEN
BUT YOU TRIED TO PUT YOUR WILLY IN MY OSHI
SHE'S MINE DAMMIT

>> No.21238508

>>21233999
https://voca.ro/19mjDWH1NVeE
no bully pls

>> No.21238702

>>21238508
I too love violence against women

>> No.21238880

>>21238465
a fitting end to Doug and Linkara.

>> No.21238889

21238385
seek psychological help

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>>21237811
it has more to do with me being a friendless neet that has autism, I struggle to show emotions in my voice

>> No.21239222

>>21239100
Well, what elicits emotion from you?

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21239233

>>21200026
This is literally the ugliest thing I have ever seen in these threads. And that's saying a lot. Through the whole thing away and hire someone to design what you want. Not just draw your design, like redesign it all from concept skeleton up.

>> No.21239318

>>21239100
just fucking starting streaming. you're just sitting here stewing in your own insecurities and blowing up meaningless shit in your own mind. chances are that your voice is fine and expresses enough emotion for people to understand. stop comparing yourself to industry professional voice actors or other streamers who have months of experience ahead of you.

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>>21239222
dunno, i don't really talk much so no idea
>>21239318
jesus calm the fuck down

>> No.21239495

>>21239470
Well >>21239318 might have a point.

Care to post a vocaroo?

>> No.21239537

>>21239495
no thanks, i refuse to be associated with this place.

>> No.21239589

>>21239537
Anon, you've been in here for the last hour getting moderately friendly advice from other retards. No one is going to track you down and cancel you in ten years because you were looking for advice or help on 4chinnychins.

>> No.21239688

>>21239589
it's not about that, the point of 4chan is anonymity.

>> No.21239730

>>21239688
Fair enough, but it would really help people...help you or give better advice, if this was something you really wanted to do that is.

>> No.21239801

>>21239730
seems useless to ask advice here, you always get the same response ''just stream'', which I already do, I just want tips to get better. I am convinced some retard is giving non-advice to discourage people from getting better.

>> No.21239855

>>21239801
>I just want tips to get better.
due to the subjective nature of being a streamer it's impossible to give tips on how to get better to an anonymous chuuba. /asp/ isn't even really for anons who want to get better. it's for anons who can't even get started.

>> No.21239858

>>21239801
Yeah, I'd believe that, I've been on this site for like 15 years. Especially on a board that's a hybrid of /cgl/, /jp/, and /a/. However, it's kind of up to you on how to take the advice, if it's worth taking or if it's something that might actually help you. It's not like some anon is going to give you shit advice and then somehow force you to abide by it.

>> No.21240003

>>21239858
>It's not like some anon is going to give you shit advice and then somehow force you to abide by it.
''just stream'' isn't even advice, it's like someone asking you how to get good at drawing and telling them ''just draw gg''.

>> No.21240067

>>21240003
Hey check out this post: >>21239855

>> No.21240101

>>21240003
There isn't really a step-by-step guide on how to be a better streamer. People say "just stream" because learning as you go is the most straightforward and effective option, since you (or a viewer) can detect your flaws and work on those instead of following a "do this, this, and this" advice which often times don't apply to a lot of people. The anons who just stream and post their link for feedback are generally satisfied with the responses people here give

>> No.21240104

>>21240003
>how to get good at drawing and telling them ''just draw gg''.
there's a lot more that is implied by "just draw" and "just stream"
it's told to you with the assumption that you have two braincells and know what you want to create. it's for anons who waste their lives asking what the perfect pencil is, what the perfect texture of paper is, which color theory books they need to read and which magazines to subscribe to learn the latest art technique. crap like that.

you want to get better? learn from others.
see a chuuba doing what you like? copy them
see a trad facecam streamer doing what you like? copy them
you see a niche that you want but isn't filled? fill it yourself
there's no objective "tips" to get better because it's all subjective. we had a schizo spazzing out about males in hoodies when one of the most popular male in a hoodie has almost a million subs just shitting around in VR.

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>>21240003
That's good advice for someone who feels they need to do X Y & Z to "properly" start streaming.

Fine, you've been streaming, you've identified something you deem to be a problem, but you have no idea how to fix it.

Your problem could easily be in your head, or it could be a fixable issue only you won't show anybody an example of your voice to critique.

So, anon, wtf are you doing here?

>>21239855
also this

>> No.21240291

>>21240101
i am referring more to technical aspects, of course, you will get better learning while you stream but sometimes stuff like >>21236616
can help you improve without wasting months trying to figure it out yourself.
>>21240104
if you tell beginner artists to ''just draw'' they are going to be overwhelmed by it and probably quit. Rather than just draw I would rather tell them to pick out x book and stick to it, or do certain drawing exercises.

>> No.21240368

>>21227963
>Are there any english vtubers that fit this niche? A dumpy 30-something neglected wife/mom?
There might be some people that fit the character archetype, but I'm not sure if they're English, or even British.
But go for it. I'd definitely give it a watch.

>> No.21240420

>>21240291
>Rather than just draw I would rather tell them to pick out x book and stick to it, or do certain drawing exercises.
there is no standardized book that the majority of people can agree upon as being the model. even Ludwig himself tells you to just pick 3 of your role model streamers and they may be completely different from the ones he picked. an anon might suggest
>go play Genshin Impact because it's free and a good zatsudan game for streaming
and you'll have a dozen of other aspies spazzing out crabs in a bucket style about how their niche PS1 game is better. no one can give specifics to a chuuba who wants to improve because it just doesn't exist.

>> No.21240460

>>21240104
>million subs
>hoodie
There are people who will just refuse to visit small startup indie vtubers if they have a hoodie design. Quickest way to get filtered. NGMI stuff.
>>21239801
>I am convinced some retard is giving non-advice to discourage people from getting better.
It's a well known fact that Yellow Cat intentionally gives bad advice constantly and starts autistic fights over nothing. They have a discord dedicated only to do that in this thread.

>> No.21240504

>>21240460
>There are people who will just refuse to visit small startup indie vtubers if they have a hoodie design
and how many subs do you have with your design?

>> No.21240548

>>21240420
>there is no standardized book that the majority of people can agree upon as being the model.
fundamentals are all the same, every single drawing book uses the Loomis technique or something derivative from it, same thing is for the technical aspects of streaming. I am not asking about something subjective like how to become popular, I am asking about vocal exercises.

>> No.21240584

>>21240504
He's not entirely wrong, Anon.

I personally avoid slutty designs and personalities. It's not as if everyone avoids hoodies but it -will- cause some people to autobail just like someone being babi, slutty, etc.

>> No.21240608

Just a lurker want to post a vocaroo to cheer aspies.
https://vocaroo.com/18DHEzGnnVq6

>> No.21240632

>>21240504
friendly reminder that Irys could have been huge if she didn't have such a shitty design

>> No.21240676

>>21240548
I recommend watching Ludwig's streamer advice videos. Those are a good starting point. By now it should be clear you won't get the specific advice you want /here/

>> No.21240685

>>21240548
>I am asking about vocal exercises.
why the fuck didn't you say so from the very beginning? you only have 2 options.
>record yourself acting out voice and play it back to yourself and change what you need to change
>sign up for voice acting classes
>>21240584
>I personally avoid slutty designs and personalities.
see this is the problem with viewers and the retarded aspiefags that encourage them. you shouldn't be appealing to individual viewers from 4chan. when an anon comments "i won't watch you" you should be hearing in their head "i'm a pedo and jack off to loli"
they aren't your target audience.
they won't watch your content.
why would you ever listen to them?
one or two anons said they wouldn't watch a male in a hoodie and someone else has almost 850k subscribers. the numbers speak for themselves.

>> No.21240718

>>21240632
[citations needed]

>> No.21240745

>>21240676
Anon they asked for vocal exercises. But still everyone should watch Lud's vids

>> No.21240766

>>21240685
>why the fuck didn't you say so from the very beginning? you only have 2 options.
but I did

>> No.21240771

>>21240685
Yeah, it worked for ONE person.

>> No.21240794

>>21240632
her design is good. the artstyle however...

>> No.21240801
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>>21240608
Thanks, partner.

>> No.21240811

>>21240718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arzcxJ_8z6Q
design matters a lot, but you don't have to kill yourself to make something decent. As long as it's not uncanny like Irys or painfully generic you should be fine.

>> No.21240818

>>21227963
DragonQueenHane and DyaRikku give off mommy vibes and their models are a bit more refined. Pochimaru/POCHI-GOYA.channel does too but she's Japanese.

>> No.21240837

>>21240771
>it worked for ONE person.
>implying that GreatMoonAroma only got to where he did because of the hoodie design alone
great logic there

>> No.21240868

>>21240811
>here are my personal opinions
>they are fact
cringe

>> No.21240907

>>21240868
you can check the Irys debut video, everyone hated her face.

>> No.21240928

>>21240685
Don't care didn't read.
Way to freak out dipshit.

>> No.21240939

>>21240907
>everyone
the only people who hated the face was /vt/ which makes up about 2,000 unique IPs at peak.

>> No.21240979

>>21240837
Nice movement of the goalpost there.

>> No.21240989

>>21240939
that's still a lot of people

>> No.21241197

>>21235574
As someone who's known this guy personally, the hoodie design wasn't even what he started out with and had nothing whatsoever to do with his success

>> No.21241266

>>21240979
How is that moving the goalposts. Going by what you seem to be implying, he succeeded due to the hoodie. Is that what you truly believe? You don't need a good design to have good content. You don't need a good design to succeed. You don't need a good design period. That doesn't change the fact a hoodie is not a good design.

>> No.21241576

People who apply to Holo are usually fat and have fat energy about them. Niji auditioners are thin and can lay pipe.

>> No.21241627

>>21241266
You're right, I was wrong. Sorry.
Also, you didn't move the goalposts, I was wrong about that, sorry for being retarded.

>> No.21241657

>>21240989
A lot of people that don't even watch streams for the most part

>> No.21241663

>>21233999
https://voca.ro/11DDaDgWHjlN

>> No.21241673

>>21241576
Kek. This is the kind of derailing this thread needs sometimes. Also, I agree

>> No.21241705

>>21241576
What I'm taking away from this is that I will succeed in my Hololive aspirations because I'm not fat and am good with both my hands and my penis. My mouth, too!

>> No.21241714

>>21241576
Am I in the middle if I audition for both? Or does order of auditioning matter...

>> No.21241718

>>21241663
You sound cute and comfy. I wouldn't change a thing

>> No.21241755

>>21241714
Ur fat but can lay pipe. Not bad

>> No.21241781

>>21241718
that made my night anon TuT

>> No.21241797

>>21241576
I've already laid pipe, so I'll audition for Holo just for kicks

>> No.21241802

>>21240939
Her face looking fucked up was a big of enough thing that it was all over Twitter and Reddit as well. definitely not just a /vt/ thing.

>> No.21242016

>>21233999
https://vocaroo.com/1nkhR5EQxUsv

>> No.21242019

>>21233999
https://voca.ro/1bzjAvoS1A6C

>> No.21242093

>>21242016
Holy kek

>> No.21242113

>>21241714
Skinnyfat, the worst of both worlds

>> No.21242244

>>21242016
MORTY GET IN THE CAAAR
WE'RE GOING TO BENDIGOOOOOOOOO

>> No.21242472

>>21233999

https://voca.ro/15aAvHA9R7i4
the roosters have been crowing here for the past 20 minutes I've given up on sounding good when they finally shut the fuck up

My friends say I laugh weird. Does my laugh sound weird?

>> No.21242622

>>21242472
>the roosters have been crowing here for the past 20 minutes
so there's this time called bird poison...

>> No.21242791

>>21241663
Damn you cute. Lets network.

>> No.21243440

>>21241266
Disregard >>21241266 I suck dicks

But you shouldn't move goalposts irregardless.

>> No.21243690

>>21237294
Honestly very cool, using it for a talk show like you do makes it a very fun interactive chat stream.

>> No.21244203

>>21227963
> A dumpy 30-something neglected wife/mom
One of my favorite vtubers is a vampire that openly admits she’s a hag. There’s a market for anyone if you have a good heart!

I’m really sorry to hear about your husband though… But maybe this could be a good time to explore your own interests? :)

>> No.21244347

>>21233040
Are you actually enjoying what you do? This seems bizarre and that’s the only way I can interpret this. I’ve grown from zero viewers to about 10 or so and I love interacting with chat (although I know I’m not big). This could also be time for a break and do some self-reflecting on what actually is ailing you.

>> No.21244472

>>21238061
It’s normal for some people. Use that as motivation to get better or just keep yourself busy to ignore that feeling.

>> No.21244835

>>21233999
>>21242472

https://voca.ro/19ccOZ5m3tNb

The roosters finally shut the fuck up and the hot wind blowing is stuck in my head so I decided to do a second vocaroo. I still can't hit the high notes but I'm gonna keep practicing until I get it right so its pretty scuffed until I learn how to breathe properly.

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>>21227963
>vtubers that fit this niche? A dumpy 30-something neglected wife/mom? Where does someone go if they want to consume a vtuber of that nature?
play your cards right and you'll be swimming in cash and coom

>> No.21246610

>>21244203
who?

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