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>>21174239
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>>21174239
learn how to use a search engine faggot
https://twitter.com/Terleck02272800/status/1507742480120303623?s=20&t=YjiGStsvlt0n8rrP2tdvqQ

>>21177698
Thank you for doing the work for me kind stranger!

Something else happened with Mori?

>>21178180
she canned the mythbreakers TTRPG this week and now its been announced her roommate is doing TTRPG with trash taste

>>21178276
Damn

hahahaha mori fucking sucks

>>21178276
Gee, it's almost as if she considers the TT subhumans to be her 'real' friends and doesn't give two shits about her genmates.

>>21178276
Lmao you can't make this shit up
How can deadcucks even justify this shit

>>21178276
I wish she didn't put the irrational fears bit in her tweet. It is just unnecessary and just fuels drama.

>>21178276
Holy shit.
I normally just ignore any Mori related drama but that's bad even for her.

>>21179545
No, I'd say it's about standard for her.

>>21179545
Nah it is just classic Mori. Also it's been known for a while now that she is doing a TTRPG campaign for Trash Taste, just to clarify the timeline.
This is what Mori is now. Too bad, I liked End of a Life and now I can't even care enough to listen to her new songs.

>>21178276
Yeah I've been waiting for the board to blow up over this like it always does but jannies have been real fast today

>>21180083
Ehhhh, it isn't really that big. Just more validation on how much of a mess Season 3 Mori is.

>>21178276
>TTRPG
at least she is doing with people to care about
this time

>>21181715
Anon your eigo reps please.

>>21174152
Not surprising honestly
She likes anitubers more than her genmates

>>21178276
Moririn really making this her last year

>>21182207
go fuck you retard

>>21182872
See you next year.

>>21178276
Trash Taste stream was announced 2 weeks ago, before the Mythbreakers stream was. The Trash Taste one is also heavily sponsored so there's no backing out from it. More importantly, they were for two different days so didn't even overlap.
Mori shouldn't be announcing big things only to cancel them on the same day for non-emergencies, but this drama is getting very intentionally twisted into something it's not.

>>21182872
Optimistic of you. This witch will keep sucking as much vitality as Cover's willing to give. The only way out is a big enough YAB.

>>21178276
>conveniently ignoring the fact it was announced half a month prior.

>>21183027
>Trash Taste stream was announced 2 weeks ago, before the Mythbreakers stream was.
Glad to see she didn't prioritize tt as a last minute choice, but she planned it from the start

>>21183027
No the point wasn't that Mythbreakers was canned to make way for it. More that if the mythbreakers finale was shit and the TT game wasn't it'd be a repeat of cuphead w/ gura and shadowverse w/ gigguk. So if she cancelled it due to an "irrational" fear or something it was likely because she felt underprepared for the Mythbreakers finale.

>>21183306
Which is stupid cause she had over 3 months to prepare Mythbreakers but didn't even think about it until the week she announced the finale.

>>21183306
still going to be shit, and TT will also be shit but good prep.

>>21178276
>Doing TTRPG with people she actually has fun around
Kino

>>21183495
5%, purisu andastaand doggu
>>21183229
>has plans
>announces new plans just to cancel last minute
Why even announce it then? Fuck her for killing my enjoyment, I liked the TTRPG, even the shittier episodes.
>>21183306
As a GM, there's no such thing as being "prepared" for a session. You prepare for the possible outcomes you find logical, ut players NEVER do that, especially when you're as passive and lax as Mori, who can't handle a closed matrix and insteads railroads too much.
I feel like she's another victim of the Mercer effect and wanted her "vision" to be prioritized over what was actually happening.
Still, fuck her for delaying the finale I've been waiting for months.

>>21184381
>Why even announce it then?
Current rrat is that she was afraid of backlash if she didn't continue it before TT thing but it doesn't explain why Mori moved it.

>>21183693
Then she should leave Hololive then

>>21184694
It's because even doxxbeats were starting to ask her what the fuck happened to Myth TTRPG.

Mori can't handle two jobs at the same time.

The deadbeat janitor has woken up

>>21185226
You can barely call that a job. Anyone who thinks streaming for an hour is tough has never had a single issue in their life and need to learn how to turn off the screen when being cyberbullied.

>>21185590
Holding up a brand is a job, it's more than just streaming.

>>21174152
>>21182443
SOURCE TWEET
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1507617899476774915
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>>21185590
Careful all of the "adults" who talk about how nepotism is actually well and good for a business will lecture you on how social media management is actually really hard.

>>21184381
>As a GM, there's no such thing as being "prepared" for a session.
No but there is such thing as being underprepared. I can only speak from my experience in 3rd edition, but something as simple as having statblocks ready, or knowing the rough layout of where the players are, are things you can prepare for even if the reactions of the characters would take you somewhere different. I've had sessions where I did nothing in prep and ended up having to end the session at half time because I didn't have anything to work with. Since I've done at least the work of putting together random encounter tables.
>I feel like she's another victim of the Mercer effect and wanted her "vision" to be prioritized over what was actually happening.
I can't say because I haven't seen much of either CR or Mythbreakers but honestly I can imagine it being the case that she would normally run beer and pretzel games and was getting pressure from deciding to run a streamer game.

If only she had time, like 4 months say, to prepare for the Myth TRPG finale. Maybe she could've gotten the stream out before doing one with trash.

>>21174152
The problem I have with Mori about this situation is that she wanted to do mythbreakers before her roommate collab with the fags because of HER irrational fear, but then had to cancel it due to HER having a schedule conflict. See a pattern here? It's all about her
>yo guys, lets finish mythbreakers before my collab with tt, I don't want any backlash
>yo guys, let's cancel the shit, schedule conflict lul sorry
Every Myth made time for you Mori, even Ame who's in the process of moving out made time. At least consider everyone's situation before cooking something up??? It's all about herself when it comes to Mori.

>>21184797
But she has fun around Bae, IRyS and Mumei nowadays too. Not her fault that none of them is participating in her TTRPG sessions

>>21186266
well... if she still hasn't prepared then delaying it in advance is probably better than letting it be a shitshow.
And to my knowledge with the TT thing her roommate isn't gonna be GM, so there's less work on her part.

It's still her fault for not already having done preparations but still having it scheduled in the first place.
And being in contact with those people in the first place is already a cancer for hololive.

>>21188000
>And to my knowledge with the TT thing her roommate isn't gonna be GM, so there's less work on her part.
Who is going to tell him?

>>21188000
The announcement says "Special Guest DM" so yeah she is going to GM

>>21188119
>>21188180
oof....
Mori you stupid motherfucker...

>>21188312
Stupid or thoughtless?

>>21178276
Konosuba TTRPG (WITH FRIENDS)

>>21186266
>Want to complain about Mori
>Last session of my campaign was a year ago and I keep meaning to work on it
Deadbraps, you win this round.

>>21188000
Qrd on why the trash taste guys are so vilified? Connor can be obnoxious at times but Joey and the other guy seem like the most inoffensive guys ever.

>>21188496
How would your friends feel if you started a new game with a different group?

>>21188518
They scammers and ironic weebs.

>>21188518
This is jus my personal vendetta, most other anon hate them for being anitubers

>>21188518
Connor and Joey had severely stupid takes with respect to Hololive in particular that just soured the opinion on them (Connor's no talent thing and joey being dumb about nene being in Playboy Japan). The continued attention they get is annoying. there is also the people that don't like anitubers in general, and the people that don't like them because of their connection to scams in the past.
I'm personally in the "I don't care about male collabs, I just hate you in general" camp. Connor had a clip right after Mori's first appearance in TT that is him complaining about how controlling the Holo fanbase is. Fucking dumbass.

>>21188681
Is that what she's doing, though?

>>21188807
It's not. She's actually going to her real friends this time.

>>21188807
No, they are actually going to look at the empty character sheets during 3 hours without playing
Retard

>>21188518
Connor speak his mind too much which pisses off retards who disagree with him. Also said something really stupid about hololive before he knew better. People also call him an "ironic weeb" which is completely untrue when he admits he doesn't run an anime channel. Known for his monkey brain takes on video games and anime. Collabs with Vtubers a lot which pisses off Unicorns.

Joey "The Anime Man" doesn't really watch anime anymore which pisses of weebs I guess. He also had some shit but ultimately harmless take about Nene getting featured on Playboy. He has some shit takes like that from time to time but less than Connor.

Garnt is the less hated one I have seen one here. Only reason someone could hate him on here is because he is Thai and his videos feature reddit-tier overused humor.

>>21188807
She's getting paid (sponsored) to do a Konosuba campaign with TT.
She tried to rush the finale of the campaign with Myth once people outside of here started asking her about the campaign along with all of her genmates saying they had no idea wtf Mori is doing with it.

Mori should graduate already. It's clear as day that she reached the height that her roomate couldn't and now she's losing her interest as a VTuber. The reason she still play the role of Mori Calliope is because she want to transfer/redirect her fans and connection to her roomate and it will take awhile to do so.

>>21189357
There's literally no need to graduate. She can freely double dip, like she's doing right now.

>>21188797
>I'm personally in the "I don't care about male collabs, I just hate you in general" camp.
Same with me. I don't like the idea of the HoloEN girls collabing outside mostly because you know most of them are, regardless of gender, some combination of assholes, clout chasers and two-faced cunts.

>>21174152
whats the need to give her shit, i hate twatter drama fags

>>21189398

Yes but it will get her into unnecessary trouble, like this time for example, because she didn't learn how to separate her roomate activity with Mori Calliope. It'll be better if she just graduate and use her roomate identity to collab and make song.

>>21182872
What was deleted? I'm on the fence about Mori so I would like to know.

>>21189694
>trouble
What trouble?

>>21189805
Install 4chan X so you don't have to ask this question again. Or look for this thread in warosu
Or get spoonfed.
>she canned the mythbreakers TTRPG this week and now its been announced her roommate is doing TTRPG with trash taste

>>21189357
>Unironically thinks that people like Calli because of her music/personality and not the anime tits
Yikes

>>21179895
>season 2 Mori will never come back

Made VT kneel. Made her music critics kneel with End of a life……..

>too drunk to stream
>dogwhistling her doxxbeats
https://mobile.twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1508114282260549634
Ken, you can't make this shit up

>>21189694
I doubt it would get her into any actual trouble. Her fans love her and would support her regardless of what she does, and her being in the EN branch means Cover isn't as strict on her when it comes to potential yabs. She'll coast along, gaining easy money by being in Hololive while slowly trying to convert her fans to her roommate account before finally pulling an Ayame and only streaming once a month to cash in on her paycheck

>>21190045
Well I sure hope she can live with that then. If her irrational fears are getting her this hard right now I wonder if she can even become something like that.

>>21183027
>>21183306
What I think she meant with the "irrational fears" line, is that people would find out that she didn't do the TTRPG with Myth for so many months only to play with TT instead, and figured she should schedule the finale quickly before that to cove rher ass.
It probably turned out that not everyone could make it on that day as it was hastily scheduled (not everyone probably meaning Mori herself, as she had to also prepare for the KonoSuba collab and by prepare I mean getting plowed by Connor). So she cancelled it anyway.
Basically she's terminally retarded

>>21184381
She doesn't know shit about Mercer. She's suprisingly one of the few pre-mercer oldguards and it's exactly why I commended TTRPG endevours. As someone who played since 3.5e, her problem seems to stem from the conflicts between player accomodation versus limited time frame to tie up loose ends. It's not unique as far as GM problems are, but it's especially worrying if she's streaming it since if has stream-related and vtuber-related considerations.

As for the the "other" rpg. Its not vtuber related so I dont care, but a konotsuba ttrpg sounds interesting enough. It might gain traction JP-wise, but it's probably gonna be a japanese trashfire just like Double Cross.

>>21190252
>not everyone probably meaning Mori herself
Definitely Mori lol. The girls had a drawing collab on the exact same timeslot TTRPG would have been. and she is the only one that has to prepare shit for it.

>>21189906
Thanks.

She desperately wants to be an e-celeb.

>>21188797
>I don't care about male collabs, I just hate you in general
same, there's no type of brit more annoying than a brit with an ego and it's more annoying all the same that he said those things in front of Ironmouse of all people. VShojo literally only exists to prop its members up with zero obligations.

>>21189921
I mean she does think people like her for herself, she's delusional like that.

>>21188797
I'm in the camp where I fucking despise anitubers especially them. They have 0 understanding of the medium and yet they still dare to act like an obnoxious faggots. I don't mind about male collabs I just hate ecelebs and anitubers. Especially them.

>>21188797
To be fair, the hololive fanbase is controlling as hell and throw hissy fits over the smallest of things. Conner is still a faggot.

>>21190498
Mori doesn't really understand being a VTuber and thinks it's just e-celeb + anime avatar.

>>21183027
>The Trash Taste one is also heavily sponsored so there's no backing out from it.
Unless I missed something and her roommate officially joined TT as a member, she had no reason to agree to participate in the first place.

>>21191669
>kadokawa money

>>21191669
Money Mori isn't a meme.

>>21185226
This. It's one thing to make occassional music under her other identity. But she's still taking work and now sponsorships. All while adding more work to her hololive side. She may believe she has accepted both it's gonna keep biting her in the ass the more stress she's adds upon herself.

Can we all agree that Brits are ironically the worst kind of native English speaker? I've had pleasant interactions with almost every other kind of native English speaker except them. What's in their fucking tea that makes them so insufferable and miserable? How did Tom Scott buck the trend?

>>21185226
Ironically, she was doing better during her debut all the way up to about January, when she was trying to handle three. At the very least, she was more enthusiastic and grateful for the support she was receiving.

>>21191569
Hololive (and to some extent nijisanji JP, 774, and JPs) is one of the last semblance of entertainment that is not tainted by garbage that is backstabbing ecelebs and ewhores that is prevalent in the western side of this hobby. Which is why the fans is a bit controlling especially after they lost Coco.

>>21188797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9sNVWHUZU
This clip. He starts off being kind of reasonable but 1:20 on he starts building a strawman from the ground up of "people not willing to admit that Hololive vtubers are real people".

>Just know that we WILL stream tonight; even if after midnight my time.
>less than 2hrs later
>>21190027
This is more annoying to me than the TTRPG drama.
Should've just done drunken Elden Ring for a few hours to not make the night completely disappointing.

>>21191739
ok im gonna need more of this or a source or something anon because i just awakened a new fetish

>>21188518
The only good anituber is pic related and he hates anitubers.

>>21191569
> hololive fanbase is controlling as hell
ok woman
it's necessary so hololive don't become vwhorejo 2.0.

>>21188749
>You think, oh my god we've really gotten to the point now where people legitimately want to wife a 2D character, like, unironically
Every day I wake up and thank god I'm not dumb enough to have some stupid shit like this come pouring out of my mouth

>>21189831
Whatever nothingburger the antis need to push for more drama of course

>>21192328
Have only this pic saved somewhere from these threads. Memory hints that this is Nakagawa Shoko, but could be wrong.

>>21191861
Britain is the Argentina of Europe

>>21185653
She's doing an awful job at it if she's doing it at all
>>21185770
Oh yeah, those "adults".
Fucking vtubing is being ruined by these shits.

>>21188681
Myth probably gives zero fucks about Mythbreakers at this point honestly.

>>21185773
Only way of being unprepared in my opinion is by not be willing to make a compromise between following the path you had planned (never do this) and what your players do.
You can grab a concept and make a whole one-shot out of that,and a campaign as long as this (which isn't much) it suffices with literally an hour of prep time a month. It's easy unless you're new, which I assumed Mori wasn't, but guess I've been proven wrong.

>>21190351
Yeah, jttrpg are more like a table game than a real rpg.
Her way of juggling the situation was awful though. Don't even plan something when you're already booked for something else.
And by what I meant with the Mercer effect is that she seems like she wanted something grandiose for viewers to enjoy, and her players would be pros like the cast of CR. If it wasn't directly a consequence of Mori taking inspiration from that, then I don't know but I saw some patterns there that can be found on CR wannabes trying to be the new hyper campaign that will make people fall in love with the hobby.
Instead we got an unexperienced GM with newbie players and an honestly weak plot and development. The individual one-shots now feel more like a tutorial level than something meaningful. She should've added more references from those which were all golden to the main story. A good GM is not a story teller, but a conflict maker, which I felt the campaign lacked overall.

>>21187864
>none of the people she likes are from her gen
This is a flag redder than Mori's eyes

>>21192369
Kenny Lauderdale is pretty cool but that's because he talks about obscure anime from the 70s and 80s

>>21188518
>all of them
Grifters who hate a hobby they profit with
>coner
Responsible for the Mori yab. On a stream with Ironmouse he started asking loaded questions and making inflamatory claims like the good old "you don't need talent to be in hololive, you can make it big just with the brand". Mouse literally prompted him to change the topic because she knew ehat was going on, and he continues saying "you can even fake your cv and still get picked".
Again, hates them and profits from them. He's annoying, has shit taste,and it's obvious he has a relationship with Mori. Even if that's fine by itself, Mori reeks every single one of his opinions as her own (boneless chicken and jojo are the most well known) and constantly has defended him and, you know, this provoked the yab.
>joe
Another annoying guy who likes what people loves. Said he liked SAO, but when it stopped being popular he started hating it. He obviously hates anime and would rather stick to manga, but that isn't as popular so he, again, profits from what he hates.
And i'm seriously thinking he has low IQ because he made a whole video ranting on how Nene being on playboy jp is "a dangerous and toxic female standar". Thr video is still up, watch it if you want to cringe for 10 minutes.
>giguk
I honestly don't know about him, and my only exposure was his twits, which are annoying but whatever. The most inoffensive of the bunch. Also he has a hot wife with links to some Virtual whores, but whatever. The biggest "problem" with him would be the collab with Mori, but more on Mori's part because she showed us where her true friends are (cuphead/shadowverse conundrum)
What is real bad is
>flying colors
Gigguk and Animeman made a poll promising a video, but the info went to a foundation named "Flying Colors". It was a literal scam in which they were both involved and it's publicly known. Said video never was released coinciding with people finding out about this scheme. Read about it on the internet, it's too long for my fingers and i'm phoneposting.
They're overall shitty people with a fanbase therefore they're untouchable. It's fine if you ignore them, but they still try to expand their shit to vtubing fandom to profit from it, and hololive bites and panders to them with Mori and Ollie because these two idiots love influencers and Holo wants the Kadokawa connection.
Also, Mori mentions them too much knowing her fanbase doesn't like them. If she keeps it on private it's all good, but she's been trying to push these fucks to Hololive fandom and normalize their presence here, and their relationship had alreadt affected negatively her job with hololive. Fucking cuntrarian should just keep it on her RM acc.

>>21192055
I don't think Connor's smart enough to build up a strawman. It sounds to me like he is struggling with trying to regurgitate the complaints he's heard from a Vtuber irl without managing to express them coherently.

>>21194978
this poster is a surefire case of someone who has never gotten laid, even once in their life

i hope you go out and find people to interact with - real people - and can grow close to others and develop real friendships. you're stuck in a really miserable headspace and I think that would help you out a whole lot.

>>21195146
Mori admitted to lying on her interview with Hololive. She faked being fluent in Japanese or something.

>>21195194
jesus christ!

>>21194978
You're right about everything but
>knowing her fanbase doesn't like them
Unfortunately deadbeats do, in fact, like them. Chat goes crazy at any TT mention, most of them actually watch TT and Vwhores and vocally support Mori collabing with them. The only time I saw some of saner deadbeats in a comment section was when Mori ruined Gura Cuphead collab but was super energetic in Gigguk Shadowverse collab. The fact that she didn't take her Holo obligations seriously seemed to piss off some people even not from /here/ and there was some valid criticism in comments. After that I never ever saw Mori criticism outside of 4chan, it's all just a sea of white knights. Which is ironic because in her infamous roommate rant she claimed antis really piss her off and make her feel bad, the question is, where does she find them if she doesn't visit this place specifically to read anti shit (and at this point I'm sure she does)? Do they send her gore in DMs or something?

>>21178276
Gentlemen I have Mori Calliope fatigue

>>21195194
post face or gtfo

>>21194978

Deadbeats actually like TT a lot. It's the incredibly tiny minority from /vt/ that gets assblasted about them. Sorry, that's the truth and you need to realise that this place is an echochamber that doesn't translate into reality when it comes to Hololive.

>>21194978
>Flying Colors
Huh.
https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Flying_Colors_Foundation
Here, for your reading pleasure. Guess that's why they're trying to get an "in" to Cover.

>>21195261
That's a different Connor story than the one we were discussing; particularly the part he awkwardly phrases about Vtubers laughing at their fans IRL just sounds too specific for him to have made up.

>>21192955
no

>>21195849
I dont know if they like TT, but i think this is the moment when the line between simping and being a cuck starts to show. People that defend Calli for prioritizing her other channel, are cucks simple as that. Sadly holo EN girls are really nice people, if you make me waste my time, ruin every single colab and then go to suck dick for some kadokawa money,. I would kick your ass.

>>21195849
That's because most deadbeats were originally TT fans, they have the largest overlap because Mori has been encouraging it for the longest time.

>>21195849
....? So shitting on Mori and all the other incel behaviour is fine, but the second TT is mentioned the white Knights crawl out the wood floor.

Look, I like Gigguk, he makes fun videos and I've only watched TT for him specifically. Some of the criticism here IS valid and Joey and Connor have been trying way too hard to fit in the Vtubing fandom.

Mori's behaviour as of late has been coming off as shitty and as clip faggot I can safely say that the magic juice's run out. The tourists here should tell you that the fandom's being devoured inside out as we speak thanks to the oversaturation of talentless fucks that keep trying to "climb the ladder".

Again, tourists are here to watch this place implode and by the asscrack of Chris-chan it will if we don't we get a fucking saviourfag Gen.

>>21196601
>tourists
>reddit spacing
go kill yourself and go back in either order

mori is using the TT pipeline to funnel viewers AWAY from hololive this will cause damage to the brand and every associate in the long run

Honestly don't give a shit about Connor or TT, Joey is a faggot whose head is too big since before TT was even formed, but I'll honestly say that canceling the activity that was promised for a long time just to play the same activity with some other people will leave a bad taste, not just with fans but your fellow """friends"""" as well.

>>21196131
>Go to front page
>The Flying Colours Foundation is displayed on the frontpage shitlist

lmao

>>21188797
The playboy thing was really stupid. Dumbass couldn't even read the katakana on the page saying it's a ranking on social influencers and not on looks.

>>21196148
>about Vtubers laughing at their fans IRL just sounds too specific for him to have made up.
Because that's true. I forgot which vtuber said it but she said a big part of popular vtubers hate their fans, or in part don't want to meet them.

This is why normies are a cancer to anything, they corrupt to the point that it becomes no different than any other normie thing.

>>21197789
Sheep does what sheep knows.

>>21197918
and they force you in line, through various means.

>>21179183
Ina was the only person who wanted to be there besides Mori, and even she wasn't into it because she hates the ruleset. Everyone else who was there showed up out of a sense of obligation and were not enjoying the game for its own merits.
No game master wants to run for 3/4ths of a group that doesn't care. Ending MB early and starting up a game with a different group is the right choice.

>>21197040
>big block of text versus readability
Not everything is "le reddit tourist go back xD" faggot.

>>21198617
True.
Problem is how she's managed it.
She shoud've made the ending the same week as the first chadcast where there's still time.
Now she's in trouble because due to her negligence she's built a lot of expectations she won't meet, and canceling the finale for a previously appointed game is a dick move no matter how you slice it. If she were my GM, even if it was in a public stream I'd never play under her again. I've ditched players and GMs for less. Time is valuable and you wasted it for no reason. Fuck you.
Mori, I know you're reading this. Just ask the girls what their ideas are for an ending, mesh them and play it ASAP. Ttrpg fags such as myself will be satisfied with pretty much anything at this point. Even if people is sour after blueballing us we'll accept it, but just end a good fucking project once in your life.

>>21199207
>4 lines
>readability

>>21188797
Their opinion is irrelevant, they are bought and paid for whores that shill whatever they are told to. The Flying Colors Foundation is just the logical conclusion for grifters like them.

>>21199207
Stop acting like a reddit axe wound and people will stop treating you like one.

>>21197673
That's Kagura Mea and she's not a good barometer for anything. She recently joined a chink agency.

>>21199832
I'm not even that anon, it's just tiring seeing how little actual discussion goes on here other than reddit this, tranny that. Aren't there better boards for that banal shit?

>>21194978
Flying Colors Foundation scam explained in great detail
https://youtu.be/hVqn5kmmDI8

>>21178276
So she’s going to go on TT as herself after appearing multiple times as her character? That doesn’t break any rules?

>>21179895
End of a Life feels like so long ago. Goddamn.

>>21200067
>png explanation pose video essay
This is a big ask to go through 34 minutes of this shit, anon.

Finally, I can drop Mori and not care about her anymore
1/5 for en is bad but oh well
Still got kiara, ame, ina, and Gura

>>21200067
youre talking out of your ass anon, that got deboonked ages ago, stop timelooping years old shit. No they werent aware of any scams and it didnt make sense for them to participate in any scams and they certainly didnt make money out of it, youre too stupid to understand i guess.

>>21189694
That’s just her own fault because she’s an alcoholic. She could easily do both and right now it’s working great for her.

>>21194978
Wasn''t one of them a really close friend of some guy that was a pedophile?

>>21202112
So what happened and what was it really about? Since the vid seems to do a pretty good job explaining the problem I'm going to need a counter narrative to understand why Joey isn't a piece of shit.

>>21202112
Goddamnit, you've made me go through this png explanation video now.

>>21202549
Connor worked with a tranny pedophile when he did Black Butler video, cause the tranny would voice the twink, but i don't think he knew about it till the tranny got arrested. Gigguk was friends with a dude who ended up killing his entire family. Joey is obsessed with lolis

>>21174152
So what's the irrational fear??

>>21202112
>they weren't aware of any scams

after it started becoming public knowledge it was a scam, they all defended it and called the accusations lies. and then started going quiet when receipts dropped showing each of their personal involvement. pretty cut and dry anon, if they had no personal investment they would have cut and run when the org was revealed as being rotten, not later when their own reputation was suddenly at stake

Gigguk's girlfriend also worked for the org as a PR Director, like how genuinely stupid to you have to be to buy into his "I didn't know what they were doing" narrative

>>21188518
Those three are one major reason why anime has been infested with mainstream normies.

>>21203499
Two of the three are lolicons, it could be worse

>>21203112
Fuck it, I'll gamble a ban. I'm not afraid of telling the truth:
>Calli had two streams back-to-back, one with genmates, other with someone outside of Holo
>horribly unprepared for the inhouse collab, whole thing a mess
>collab with outsider total opposite, a totally different person during it
>difference was so egregious that people were sending SCs scolding her for it (somewhat rightfully, I feel. The SCs were actually pretty gentle and constructive)
>fan backlash caused her to straighten up some, but it clearly wounded her and left a scar
Now she's afraid of the two overlapping TTRPGs resulting in something similar. Teebeeaych, I think her choice to simply reschedule one is the smartest move. She could dispel any and all asshurt by saying she's a little overloaded on her side right now.

>>21191569
Not as controlling as the Niji fanbase

>>21191669
Mori likes the TT fags much, much more than anyone in Hololive.

>>21197673
There are vtubers who genuinely like their fans like Miko, Watame and Marine and there are vtubers who despise their fans like Mori, Ayame and Anya

>>21203663
Honestly I'm about 85% convinced she's stuck with a bunch of phony clout-chasers and social climbers in her little community of EOP expats in Japan, and they have undue influence over her due to proximity and little else. Kiara was probably such a stabilizing factor in her life. I wish that damn chicken hadn't gotten deported, she may have some annoying tendencies, but she was the straight man who kept Calli's idiotic American womanisms in check.

>>21203804
Calli really does scream "stereotypical loud dumb American." I bet if she wasn't a VTuber she'd be making shitty raps about how the vaccine has microchips.

>>21203804
>Honestly I'm about 85% convinced she's stuck with a bunch of phony clout-chasers and social climbers in her little community of EOP expats in Japan, and they have undue influence over her due to proximity and little else
Pretty much. People have been begging her to get closer to the Holos IRL for some time now because they'd be able to understand and help her more than the TTfags but Mori is basically an apartment goblin who only leaves when absolutely necessary.

>>21203211
>Gigguk's girlfriend also worked for the org as a PR Director

why would just a random promoter know about anything? Like that makes no sense, its like blaming a secretary for working for a corrupt boss. They were being used, that's all.

No not cut and dry, and none of them really got anything out of it.

>>21203570
A repeat of it, this time, would also be much more damaging

>>21185226
Sure she can, she’s giving a handjob and rimjob to her other “””friends”””.

>>21192328
>>21192943
EXFE-001

>>21203927
>Reddit spacing
>Defending TT
>Defending the fucking PR manager of a sham scam company because your precious ironic weeb podcast faggots are implicated
You REALLY have to go back

>>21199975
You should go back too, you're clearly a tourist not only to this board, but this entire website.

>>21203857
Nah, I know Calli's type. She's an awkward dork who would benefit from some genuine, understanding relationships that don't revolve around others in the entertainment industry. Everyone in entertainment is so goddam fake and self-serving. We all need an honest person to serve as a stabilizing force in our lives. Calli, if you listen to her, had her family to do that, and without it she's searching for something similar. Clout-chasing social climbers are a terrible place to look, though.

>>21203870
Can't agree more. I think Irys would be a wonderful person to have around. She comes off like Ina (super sheltered girl with a very moral upbringing), which I think would help keep some of Calli's more destructive behaviors in check.

>>21203990
Anon, don't bully Gigguk, he's doing his best.

>>21203990
>no arguments
You are going to delude yourself just so be able to spread shit and lies about ppl who .... what did they do to you exactly? Jealousy?

>>21203870
The thing is, people don't want to meet her either anon. Remember she's not only a wigger, but a Karen too irl.

>>21185653
Yeah if she was indie she’d be holding a brand, Cover is already doing all this shit for her

>>21204092
There was a time 4chan wasn't full of election tourists constantly saying "tranny" and unironically just arguing in circles over politics trying to one up people before the thread 404'd. I remember having fun here. Do you? Remember dumb habbo raids?

>>21204107
>>21203990
is this you?

Calli is a social climber, hololive is just a stepping stone to her.

>>21204218
I remember being here in 2012 and googling shit to pretend to be an oldfag too, nigger. /b/ was never good.

>>21204186
>lies!
It's all out in the open you faggot. They were scamming their own viewers. Either you're a Gigguk adjacent playing damage control on a mongolian basket weaving imageboard or you're very fucking pathetic and actually like that horseshit

>>21204295
You literally have no idea what youre talking about.

>>21204262
It was when you were younger and the internet was a much different place, because you weren't old and cynical like you are now. Also that's weird man, me being here since 2006 is not a brag. This place fucking sucks and I wish it wasn't so ingrained into my internet habits.

>>21204218
>having fun
ISHYGDDT

>>21204092
It's very bizarre being an oldfag, every thread now has this eventuality that it will become complaining about reddit or trannys. I'm so tired of seeing the word tranny and being reminded of how fucked the world has gotten in the past decade.

>>21204447
It's the same type of retards that scream racist or nazi at anyone that disagrees with them, except around here they think they're free thinkers

>>21204198
I get the feeling Calli would make a pretty damn fine friend, but only in controlled doses. I've had friends like that, and there's nothing really wrong with it. Although I have no shame in admitting she's probably a horrendous partner. I can't see any man putting up with her on a commitment level. Though that's not really unique to Mori, virtually all Western women are like that now.

>>21204254
First one is me. Bottom is not. And yes, I know she is. All women are to some extent. It's in their nature to be followers.

>>21204447
No escapism. If we have to deal with clown world, you do too

>>21204447
Remember when the names of boards hinted at the content held within? Nowadays you can't escape from /pol/tards despite them having their very own board.

>>21185697
>All those replies
They really are cuckbeats holy shit

>>21204107
I'm split on this because you probably have a good point with her having good influences who aren't the clout chasers, but Kiara post-move is the most kino "character arc" to watch in real-time. I wouldn't wish for her to be stuck in Japan just to support Mori. The reaper's a big girl, too, and should be able to find her own support structure.

>>21204546
Maybe I'm just old and have completely outgrown this place, but every piece of conversation has been subsumed into the angry /pol/ mass. The only threads that are really active are the dumb blatant or thinly veiled /pol/ ones. It fucking sucks, there are barely any good sites anymore.

>>21204541
What is the point of watching vtubers if not escapism from reality.

>>21194978
Everything here is right except deadcucks like TT because to be a fan of mori you’re either a selfhating ironic weeb, ignorant unitychad, or EOP that hates vtubers that have high pitched voices

>>21204673
>Kiara post-move is the most kino "character arc" to watch in real-time
Kiara has gone up in quality 10000% ever since she hasn't had to worry about Calli. Kiara x Ame was actually fun and cute too

>>21204702
You and me both. I literally only come here maybe once a month to see if there's any hilarious drama to laugh about, then fuck off back to real life.

>>21204673
>The reaper's a big girl, too, and should be able to find her own support structure.
Kiara made more of an attempt to assimilate with the culture she moved into, thus she came off as being more comfortable. Calli hides in her expat enclave too much.

>>21204716
You've just summarized the point of this thread and the general spirit behind the Mori hate in general. Fans of vtubing want to protect their escapism; Calli's clumsy, irreverent behavior as a vtuber is threatening that escapism; maybe not by a lot, but the slippery slope isn't a fallacy.

Mori managed to do what wasn't done until now, polarize the hololive fanbase, the TT fags and the anti TT fags would kill each other at sight, I know I would

>>21204546
>>21204702
The planet is dying and all but a very few are powerless to do anything about it. On /pol/ they vent their anger and hopelessness against the boogeymen in their own heads, and here they do the same but against a few women streaming games on the internet.

I'm glad I dropped her when I did

>>21205427
This is simultaneously fucking hilarious and depressing.

>>21191376
>have 0 understanding of the medium and yet they still dare to act like an obnoxious faggots.

/vt/ was conner all along

>>21205427
>The planet is dying
But it isn't.

>>21206242
Planet death is just a cope by the West now that their hegemony of "bright and glorious democracies" is getting supplanted by brutal autocracies who scoff at human rights and wield power as intended. They'd rather just pretend everything is dying instead of their quality of life.

>t. burger who can see the depression coming and isn't bullshitting about it

Finally. I have a reason to drop Mori... but let's be real I was on copium for so long
Luckily Irys and some others gmhave filled the void
I'm so close to just watching JP only
Problem is time zones

>>21199207
>needs spaces to read shit
fucking zoomerfag

>>21192055
Both sides of this are retarded. No one's "refusing to admit they're real people" fans have a right to personally dislike male collabs, and streamers have a right to tell they're fans to fuck off. I don't get why both can't be true.

>>21198617
Actually Ina was the only member that actually gave a shit, Mori prefers to get with Conner and the other retards

>>21204447
It's the second time you mention trannies out of nowhere while no one else is talking about them. Want to share something with the class?

>>21197040
Reddit spacing is a 2013 meme at the absolute earliest, which came into being as Tumblr began its slow-motion implosion and Reddit became the new shithole sending tourists here.

I enjoy 'reddit spacing' as a quick way to identify newfags desperate to fit in.

>>21204546
/pol/ belongs here, you don't.

>>21209110
/pol/niggers were tourists when stormfront first shat up this place, and they were tourists after 2016. You're just as bad as redditors, /lgbt/, /news/, /soc/, etc. Same DNA, same place of origin in normalfag algorithm-driven social media, just different politics.

>>21209324
Sure thing, Bunkercuck. As if we didn't what you and your ilk were doing outside in society and naturally wanted your physical removal.

>>21202847
>Joey
The guy used to collab a lot with this dude Einshine back in the early days. Then one day that guy disappeared after allegations of grooming underage fans (or something along those lines I don't remember clearly) surfaced. Oh and he apparently dated pic related's RM.

>>21209566
>Mumei is the Ghislaine Maxwell of hololive
Hot

Man, I was developing the beginnings of some sympathy for mori after her tweet about liking idols and after her saying some nice things about kiara's holofes performance. That's my bad. What an absolute fucking dickhead she is. I would jizz my pants if mori, sana, and kronii got shitcanned.

>>21210301
Fuck you!

>>21210301
lol, did you really fucking believe it

>>21210301
There there, Anon. Your only mistake was having hope in the hopeless.

>>21210396
I mean she was crying and shit about fucking up her friendship with kiara. I have actual empathy, unlike her, so I fell for it. The sad thing is, I don't think mori is a psychopath or anything, she's just a retard, constantly and uncontrollably bouncing from emotion to emotion, all of which is just random perturbations in her overall trajectory to what her retard brain thinks is the best goal: being a normalnigger clout chasing twitch faggot.

>>21210301
What did Kronii do?

>>21210665
seriously just try watching her rm debut account, it fucking invalidates everything

>>21210755
People hate her cause she used to follow feminist castrate all men accounts before hololive. But kronii is autistic, and last night she played with her fans doing some short cougar roleplay over twitter space, so clearly she's changed. I'd let her cut off my dick anyways, it's no big deal.

>>21210755
Anon doesn't like her because she got her gender fluids all over his face.

>>21211018
Lucky bastard

>>21210755
She has long made it painfully obvious that she hates her fans, hates her own model, and is just a general huge stick in the mud. But as if that wasn't enough, after months of subtly indicating all of the above, she came right out and confirmed it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvlaDmJ0og

>>21211018
>she got her gender fluids all over his face.
Lucky bastard

>>21194978
Not only deadbeats, but probably every normalnigger in every fanbase enjoys TT. Weeaboo culture is a mistake and something should have been done to prevent the reclamation of the word.
Fuck every anituber (Demo is dead, doesn't count) and FUCK crunchyroll.

>>21206650
>Luckily Irys and some others gmhave filled the void
I have bad news, pray that Irys is just puppydogging along to humor her "senpai" and doesn't let herself get actively roped in by Mori's retardation any further

>>21211118
Kronii: I was worried but it's gotten better and I enjoy talking to chat
Schizos: She fucking hates all her fans, what a bitch

>>21211118
lol Jesus. Amusingly, the 'ribbon' is the only worthwhile part of her design.

>>21211118
i mean, with a weird model like that, i can't say i blame her
fanartists are always the ones making anybody look better but goes hard with her and Sana
seriously, Council's designs try too hard to look unique

>>21211474
Literally the best design of all of holoEN.

>>21197673
This is completely logical even if the VTuber in question is as much of a normalnigger NPC as their fans. The majority of people, but especially fucking weaboos/members of fandoms are incredibly cringe and/or autistic. Concernfags and bootlickers deserve to be hated just as much as schizos, and I wouldn't fault ANY vtuber for being disgusted by or even hating their fanbase. It's just nature running its course.

>>21211474
Blame Omegalul and the whole lore bullshit.

>>21198617
>>21208501
were we watching the same streams? Ina came off to me mostly as a passive passenger. Part of it was due to her choice of picking a le tired shy nerd character that wants to stay mostly in the background as an NPC (same issue that crippled Ame with her choice of a mostly mute "Watoto" character, even more so, as Ame tends to fade in big collabs generally), and while she wasn't a total non-participant deadweight, she didn't really have the most (or much) at all impact on the sessions anyway and could've been removed without any irreparable loss. So to say she was the "best" player or "only one who wanted to be there / gave a shit" is pretty biased.

Personally, based on their participation, involvement and enthusiasm, I'd rank Gura and Kiara first and second. They were the ones most responsible for driving the plot forward, making things happen, asking questions, pulling off actions etc. Gura often tried wacky schemes with haha poop funni, and Kiara was interested enough to try some meta-gaming at least.
Ina was a distant third at best, more closer in behavior and attitude to Ame than to the first two.

>>21211364
She shouldn't have been worried or bothered in the first place. 90% of all chuba models are coombait to some degree, so any unhappiness she experienced begs the question of what the fuck she expected going into this industry of all industries. The solution to her problem is not to try to change chat, it's to lighten up and quit being such a moron. Her own tits live rent free in her head and it has made everything unnecessarily worse for herself and her fans who have to walk on eggshells around her and pretend they don't like tits. Fans are gonna like and banter about any chuba's model and that is not a problem.

>>21212302
>she expected going into this industry of all industries
easy money

>>21194978
I just hate joey for how much he talks bout that shitty metamorphasis doujin. dunno why ironic weebs are so fucking obsessed with it

>>21210755
nta, but to distill the few various angles of complaints I've heard:
Some of her roommate previous social media stuff can give an impression of her being at least tumblrtard adjacent with her gender issues, and you know how negatively some people here react to anything that sniffs vaguely of sjw.
Her autismo personality is also somewhat divisive. There's a market for that, as many people love to cream themselves over "uwaah le dorky gap moe XD" (see also: Mori, et al.), while some others just find it annoying and obnoxious.
Then she also gets some general complaints about her general (lack of) consistency and flakeyness (as do most Holos who stream below average and cancel/ghost more often)

Now, I'm not saying these are good or bad reasons, if you like her you can continue watching her, and if you don't like her she's pretty easy to ignore (her not being super involved in the wider Hololive universe is also a positive in this case), I'm just saying what I've heard most often from people who don't like her as reasons why

>>21212428
It's babbys first entry whooaaa so edgy so hardcore hentai and has by now become a referential meme, no wonder it's all that surface-level ironic weebs know

>>21192369
rest in power demo, i love you forever

>>21212690
So bible black for zoomers?

>>21203499
owie nooo the normis are touching my precious japanese cartoons how dare they

Go get fucked you pathetic subhuman. Jesus christ otaku are so retarded and cringe why do I have to love anime tits

On topic, cali is cringe too, whatever. Haters are cringer.

>>21211018
god I wish that were me

>>21212813
I'd say so, yeah.
>>21212967
t. normalfag
Why go into a hobby that has content you hate, retard? "Oh, because it's popular! The popular kids are watching it so I want to.- but ew, there's FANSERBISS.."
lol faggot. Get outta here.

>>21212967
Cuckbeats are the cringiest. Oh noes, teh hators are teh bullying my waifu!! noes!! Stopzorz!! U R teh cringe, not me!!! waaaaaaaaahhhhhh

>>21212967
Now this post is cringeworthy.

>>21204546
It's almost like /pol/ is the most popular board by far and therefore a large majority of people on average are interested in the kind of topics they talk about.

>>21213193
Shocking, right?

>>21213193
Then they should talk about those topics on /pol/, that is what it exists for.

>>21213348
>no don't discuss related topics in my threads!!!
So when your oshi is playing a video game every comment about the game itself is posted on /v/ instead, right? You wouldn't DARE post about video games on a vtuber board, right?

>>21212302
I wanna argue in good faith that she's slowly getting better. Spending time with girls who are just weird but in a good way is helping her. Much better than associating with people who are making kronii think she's an egg waiting to crack.

>>21195194
>>21201644
>>21202112
>>21203927
>Imagine unirronically white knighting ironic weeb scammers
I'd tell you to go back, but even reddit turned on them when they pulled that scam shit. Their fans are underaged Twitter fags that are unaware it happened. Connor's shit fans even swatted a guy recently for contradicting him on Twitter.
That's the kind of filth you're a part of.

>>21213536
>she's slowly getting better.
I like to believe. She also interacts with her chat a lot, the twitter spaces which do nothing for her channel especially make me believe that she doesn't actually hate her fans.

>200 posts of cuckbeat mental gymnastics

>>21213418
People don't talk about games on /v/ so no I would not post there

>>21213625
Bro I just don't like png explanation pose mascot video essays

>>21213625
>even reddit turned on them
it didn't and gigguk is universally loved on reddit and only anituber who gets consistent upvotes, gigguk literally addressed and explained everything on reddit btw.
Also youre stupid, why would successful, biggest youtubers in community need to "scam"? It makes 0 logical sense, they got nothing out of it and just got damaged reputation, only because they genuinely believed the creators of the thing (which they had nothing to do with). Youre dumbass, get your anti-tt shit cuckbeating elsewhere.

>>21209566
God I miss Einshine, I wonder what he's doing nowadays.
Joey is the only one that survived, even Nyanstrike is dead now and she would've benefitted the most with a Live2D avatar.

>>21213815
>cuckbeat calls others cuckbeat to deflect from his TT toekissing

>>21203499
Lmfao, anime isn't "mainstream" because of the anituber boogieman it's mainstream because it's extremely commercialized and mostly exists to pump out as much generic FOTM garbage as possible to move merch and blurays

>>21213094
Do you reading comprehension reps, I never said I hate the content. I love the content. I just really dislike illiterate retarded vomiting dumb ass shit takes

>>fanservice
Anime tits are based. Objetivification of the body as marketable items for sale is problematic, for sure, but I appreciate the aesthetics a lot. So, fanservice is good.

>normf
I had sex so I guess I'm better adapted than most posters here, but I can't hold a job and am watching anime wo subtitles all day so I woulnt really say I'm a normie. That said, idgaf about the label I'm not a spineless donkey.

>>21214200
>problematic

>>21211118
Id hate my model too if it was designed by that shitter wada

>>21213815
Why even argue with you. You're white knighting filth. You're pathetic.

>>21213815

>>21214360
ohw no big bad right wing texan anon insulted my feelings how sad

(tl I honestly think you are mentally retarded, therefore it would be like super hard for you to hurt me. You can keep trying tho!)

Is it really so hard just to ignore someone you don’t like?
If you’re so sure she’s graduating within a month, there’s even less reason to give a shit because her foot is already out of the door. And Rushia has shown that no matter what you say or do, her fans will follow her out anyway.

>>21214745
Actual mental illness

>>21214791
>Is it really so hard just to ignore someone you don’t like?

>>21214745
>texan
lol okay Portland basedboy. How many avocados and homeless people have you got shoved up your arse?

What's really interesting is that this is /vt/, a board for talking about virtual youtubers but if you watch you can see it's easier to shit talk Mori or Ollie and people won't really push back on it, but the moment TT is brought up suddenly you've got dozens of people defending them. You would think they would all be on /a/ or something, but they're here instead, defending their weird podcast people and lapping up shitty anitubers piss like it's ambrosia. Mori literally brought the little shits here and now we've got their cancer to deal with.

>>21214745
>spelling mistakes
>talks like a retard
at what point does it stop being ironic

>>21214928
I'm actually a South American nigger. Get fucked jajajajaj

>>21214745
>Someone recognized me as a shitty twitter sjw, they must be one of those "big bad right wing texans" CCN told me about!

>>21214745

>>21214967
And like a spic you missed my point entirely. Try again and see if you can get what I was trying to say. Don't worry, like your cock it's not hard.

>>21214952
Umm you know they were all very successful self-made youtubers before TT existed (and still are) . Podcast is a side thing. Theyre all arguably more successful than Mori who is nothing without hololive.

>>21214952
It's almost as if like conservative shitters on 4ch might be... mysoginistic? Nah that's sjw buzztalk, not such thing existis

>>21174152
Her "irrational fear" was that the mythbreakers ending would be seen as tiresome and poorly thought out. She would then immediately followed that slog up with her happy go lucky attitude she takes with the TT fags. People would go APESHIT because shes been through this scenario.

Ill hand it to her thought. Shes IS learning. Not how to be a better person and holomember. But instead how to be a conniving, have her cake and it it too, snake. Moris gross solution to avoiding yabs.

>>21214952
>You would think they would all be on /a/ or something
/a/ has filtered these fags out a decade ago. /vt/ moderation will never compare to /a/.

>>21211916
Yeah I don't know what these people were watching, maybe just commenting based off of some other threads' comments? Kiara got kind of kneecapped by having invested points into her bird and then having it not be able to show up. It's kind of funny how this group had a couple of the usual stereotypes.

>>21214745
That is a lot of fucking buzzwords

>>21215113
Then go back to twitter where you belong faggot.

>>21215024
Bro I literally said problematic. I wasn't trying to hide that I'm a leftist. Grow a pair of eyes.

Remember all twittards quite literally type and respond in the same way, as made evident by these two.
>>21215097
>>21215113

>>21214952
>you can see it's easier to shit talk Mori or Ollie and people won't really push back on it
That’s not remotely true, but you’re already set in your own schizo narrative so don’t let that bother you

>>21215241
Have you been in any of those threads? You only get a few people who feel like defending them, yet this one instantly roused your shitty tt discord or wherever you people came from to defend them lmao

>>21214791
Rushia and kson had massive cults. Kson now has holoID numbers. Mori will be irrelevant when all the drama tourist leave 1 month in. She's not attractive enough to be a female E-celeb.
>>21214952
The deadcuck discord literally raids this place and they're all TT dickriders. Worse they have a pocket jannie that deletes all criticism. You can post rape threats directed at other chuubas but saying Mori is bad at video games is a bannable offence.

>>21215089
No, bro, I got your point. You were saying I'm gay. Which I mean, great jab dude. Rly stings. But I though it's hilarious that you didn't smell the niggerness. And you and I both know you didnt, cos I might be esl but you are an uneducated incel

The autistic shitfit /vt/ collectively throws about Connor and TT ironically justifies everything he said about the fanbase. Hololive fans are creepy weirdos. They hated him because he told the truth, literally.

>>21215326
>saying Mori is bad at video games is a bannable offence
You don't have to make shit up, Anon.

>>21211329
Ya, I can only hope.
It sucks even harder since irys is a hapa
If Mori does anything worse, I may be forced go go anti and create an alt account
Atm I just ignore what mori does. Really thought things would turn for the better after holofes
But if anything Mori wants to piss her fans more

>>21215411
Fuck off and die.

>>21215157
Nope thanks, Twitter is somehow more retarded than /here/, and I never really got into it. The buzzwords come from actually having college education and not circlejerking in algorithm protected bubbles. Try giving it a go someday maybe!

>>21211118
And here my takeaway was that she was afraid of being too dull to not be worth focusing on over the giant tits.

>>21215464
Mori is bad at video games.

Now watch closely as fucking nothing happens to me.

>>21215355
shill

>>21215355
Alright you bellend go make a thread about those cunts on any other board and watch as everyone equally shits on you.
You're not even welcome on /trash/.

>>21215339
Firstly, I'm not your bro. Secondly, you assumed I was Texan when I am not. I called you Portland as an unfavourable assumption and you immediately jumped on it because you only saw the gay. You ARE a niggerfaggot but that was the bait, not the point.

>>21215411
cuz you were ranting about deadcucks and mentioning critical, not because you were saying she's bad at the game. actually i dont recall her saying she is good at the game.

>>21203570
coherent
>>21215133
incoherent

>>21215355
VSHOJO GOOD
HOLOLIVE BAD
What makes me laugh the most is their was another corpo vtuber that fawns over Connor
Honestly I just wonder what makes Connor retarded

>>21215644
Oh insulting other people on 4chan and mentioning people she keeps mentioning onstream is against the rules? Must have missed it.

>>21204546
>it's /pol/ that's bringing politics into /vt/
Gentlemen, please take a look at exhibit A: >>21215191
We are being invaded by reddit and twitter.

>>21215113
yes retard, mys0giny causes the criticism of two holos and defense of anituber podcasts
not male feminist discord fans
you figured it out

>>21215464
>Cope
>Cuck
That's probably why. You're obviously fanning flames.

>>21215833
Discordniggers deserve nothing but death.

>>21215599
"Bro" in the context of internet shitting is a condescending an insulting way of addressing your interlocutor. Again, please, do your basic literacy reps, please. Texan is meant to belittle the opinion of right wing snowflakes, because they are being equated to literal peasants from rural trashland. I did not asume you were born in Texas, and I don't asume all Texas are illiterate pieces of shit as yourself either.

Lastly yes I am in fact a negro. I was the one that stated that first. You got owned, in your own language, by a fucking latam twink. Its hilarious.

>>21188681
That depends.

Are they 4channers?

>>21215803
>we're being invaded
4chan pride lmao

>>21215784
Because the jannys are always retarded, nothing wrong with name dropping irl people, it's just that Mori does it 24/7
Hey janny, Mori has been in TRASH TASTE PODCAST FT. GIGGUK, CONNOR, JOEY
AND HAD MENTIONED WANTS TO COLLAB WITH CRITIKAL
Now either delete this and clearly don't keep up with the times which means you are retarded or delete this and clearly have favoritism for mori

>>21215883
Fuck off faggot, I can post that I think any other vtuber should die and nothing will happen to me (which is fine) but shit on Mori even a little when deadcuck jannie is awake And you're gone. Fuck your pocket jannie.

>>21189921
They do, anon. Like it or not.
>>21191135
Most Mori fans say they love how genuine she is and her work ethic. In other words, her personality.

>>21215919
You're still not getting it, faggot. The only person you are 'owning' is yourself. Bro is short for brother and is used as a slang term addressing someone you feel friendship or emotional closeness to. You have no right to address me in such a manner, we are not friends and in fact you are so far beneath me that that you cannot even see my shadow. Begone from this place or post your address so that I can come kill you.

>>21215970
Yes, 4chan pride. Unironically this. We are better than you, always have been and always will be.

>>21188518
I think gigguk is the only one who doesn't have big reasons to be hated but more a case to case situation (like not finding him entertaining (that I'm aware of))
but Joey promoted a few scams and conner had shit takes about vtubers while also leeching off them.
plus anitubers.

I don't get it. You fags didn't want e-celebs associated with Hololive, and now Mori is bringing them to her roommate instead, and you're still chimping out. I thought this was what you wanted?

>>21215311
>yet this one instantly roused your shitty tt discord or wherever you people came from to defend them lmao
Anon, assuming anyone calling you a retard is just someone part of some great conspiracy targeting everything you love is literal schizoposting
I just want PINK WOMAN BAD faggots to keep all their gossip to one thread and to stop shitting up the catalogue.

>>21215355
pretty much every board on this website hates them lol. They're the epitome of ironic weebs. It has nothing to do with /vt/
Go on. Start a thread on /a/ if you really think you'll be able to talk positively about them there lol

>>21216247
I want to puke after reading this.

>>21216190
Oh bro did you really death threat me? That's so fucking cute I'm literally smiling wide open.

Regarding the use of bro, I was joking at the beginning but you seriously need some elementary school literature reps. The thing when you say a thing but mean the opposite. Look it up. Like 40% of English humor is predicated on understanding this, you're missing out!

>>21216393
Purge your stomach all you want, it won't change the truth.

The autism levels in this thread are hitting critical mass.

>>21216247
If you feel like that please screen grab that post and use it as an avatar in nonpublic social media. That way people can stay the fuck clear, which I guess already happens, but still just case.

>>21189921
Not sure what percentage of her fanbase did but there were a few who got to her first because of her music rather than hololive. Of course, if it wasn't for holo she wouldn't have had a nice influx of views that boosted her music to be findable to begin with, but still, she managed to bring some new viewers from outside the vtubing niche.

>>21216324
Gigguk basically just keeps to himself and his wife. I don't think I've seen him really make any firm stance on something and all he really does is talk about current seasonals. At the very least you know he actively watches anime and likes it which is CERTAINLY more than can be said for conner and joey.

>>21216431
I reject your failed attempt at sarcasm and elect to smack you with the newspaper of unironic truth. Now, stop sucking your dogs dick and do something worthwhile, ie commit suicide.

>>21216474
It's kinda beautiful to stare at

>>21216493
>he uses social media
Go kill yourself.

>>21216324
Gigguk is the only person on TT that's genuinely good and based, and actually watches anime. The other two though, it's hard to say the same thing abt them.

>>21215996
how could a janny delete that? Mori was featured on an episode of trash taste. I remember, I couldn't believe it so I even took a screenshot of it when it when I saw it. pic related

>>21188518
Gigguk is perfectly fine, but Joey is the one who I actually would understand the hate for after he made a whole video calling out Nene fans and saying that her making a sexiest women list in a Japanese Playboy issue was a sign of the downfall of society. And then revealing he’s a Niji fanboy so he’s just a tribalfag bitter that Hololive is more popular in the West (though he is friendly with Ollie now so maybe he’s softened up).

The reason people single Connor out over the other two despite Joey being far worse is that Joey and Gigguk have girlfriends, making the 4-foot scruffy Welsh bachelor the only one they deem as a threat of fucking their oshi.

>>21216695
>marries the woman who cucks him every weekend
>good
I see...

>>21216386
>we're not creepy weirdos, look, they hate them too!
>points to an even bigger group of autistic losers
you sure proved me wrong wow

>>21216540
Lmao you're the definition of a sad doublechin otaku. Chuni speak only works when is a 2d character doing it.
I fucking hope that at the very least you can speak jp, or autistic levels of drawing prowess.
And one last time: please prioritize those literacy reps! I am sure you will find it very fulfilling when you start understanding nuance in speach. Language can be very beautiful and expressive. And they speak it in your anime too!

>>21216327
It's interfering with her work in Hololive
At this point she should step down a bit to focus irl
Otherwise it's just going to be
>Sorry! I fucked up again, streams canceled, and not because of my roommate
And repeat at least once a month adhonim

>>21216817
It sure reeks of Reddit in here...

>>21216599
I mean I use telegram to talk to friends and family.
I don't think you do that here on 4ch do you anon? Or you literally don't have anyone in your life?

>>21216817
And you are an AIDS carrier. Say whatever you want about me being 'chunni', but I am not the faggot with a pozzed neghole. Enjoy your painful and humiliating disease death.

>>21191932
Yeah, after so much shit I've seen this last week I can kind of understand why the fans are desperate to keep Hololive kinda isolated specially from western ecelebs

>>21216767
>cucks him every weekend
proof?

>>21216881
Redditchads unironically rule this board

>>21216892
I have friends and family in (gasp!) real life! I dont use telegram or facebook or twitter. Unlike you and yours I'm a complete human being.

>>21216934
Last I checked I didn't have aids, but it's a real possibility because I am not very responsible. Fortunately nowadays hiv is very treatable. Thanks for the concern anon! Don't forget to try to dox me so you can pay a visit, be sure to call a few days in advance so I can get a room ready for you.

>>21217007
Do your reps, nigger. Sydney's nudes are out there.

>>21215535
You were so close, anonchama. Now try again, If college and "algorithm protected bubbles" leads to the same product, what does that tell you about you "college education" that you seem to think automatically makes you smart?

>>21217075
>implying you can afford treatment

>>21217025
Sweet me too! But I live in a a big city so running into them would be unlikely as fuck. Also every once in a while I get horny and it's pretty convenient to have one of those dating apps handy.
Regardless, I really dislike using social media myself, but wouldn't judge anyone who does. It does seem silly to think you're super smart and avant garde because you post on 4chan tho. Idk, give it a think. From my perspective it seems pretty retarded.

>>21216513
Very likely a small percentage, most of the reddit tier faggots that follow her probably came from drama, hating idols/breaking idol stereotypes, or trannies that love her equally tranny voice

>>21217088
Doubt, REALLY doubt
Gigguk feels like the type to honestly just divorce or something

>>21217269
>he uses dating apps
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

>>21217152
Healthcare is free here, fortunately I don't live in a distopic shithole.

>>21216327
Probably because she's done her best to remove the line between roommate and the chuuba to the point of saying her favorite guy on the holo reddit is a dude who constantly posts dox shit.

>>21217269
Hey buddy, are you connected to the Metaverse, too?!

>>21216540
Stop replying to a literal self admitted lefty nigger faggot twink. He actually has to go to 4chan of all places because this is the most attention he can get, anon. You're helping him.

>>21217351
Ahuh, sure.

>>21217449
You know. I was having fun, but you do make a good point, Anon.

>>21217020
redditards get slaps

>>21217107
It isn't quite the same. Most sjw/internet leftists are retarded too. They just repeat shit they don't really understand, and only serve to fuel strawmen.
I guess it's the same in the right wing spectrum. Surely you can see most shitters are retarded, no? That doesn't necessarily mean you are retarded as well.
Lastly, I wasnt being serious, really, as having a college education does not implies being capable of critical thinking. Plenty of college grads are retards. But it is often a step in the right direction

>>21215555
She also said she was mid at best at the game anyways, it's just her favorite game. Some people just aren't good at games. At least she isn't one of those people who say fromsoft games need a "easy mode"

>>21217279
>her equally tranny voice
beg to differ, the only thing I hate about traps is that their voice is too masculine even when taking hormones. if they had a voice anywhere near to mori's (or kronii's for that matter) I would never stop watching trap porn.

>>21217602
>But it is often a step in the right direction
lol not these days.

>>21217449
I mean wouldn't I just go to Twitter to circlejerk then? I literally don't give a shit about attention. It's fun to watch a 100iq monkey struggle to form a decent response. Fucking retarded wen the "akhually I am not in fact your brother" rout lmao, don't you find that actually amazing? even if you think that all the jews and the gays should be gased, you have to give me that one. He fuckin death treated kek. Funniest shit I've seen all day.

>>21217840
You know what, I agree. I was just appealing to the average incel inferiority complex because most of them are too retarded to go thru college even when they live in a society in which doing so is absolutely expected as a base minimum.

>>21217985
No. You don't belong. Leave.

>>21217088
>Sydney's nudes
I doubt it.

Ignore the attention seeking fag, post shit about TT and Mori, that's what set him off to begin with. Better yet post that eyebleach pic of connor in that dva outfit or whatever so more people know he has a micropenis lol

>>21218248
I have some, shall I deliver in this thread?

>>21218221
??
There is not belonging, this a literally an anon board.
You can reject me all you want but if you want a safe heaven for retarded incels youll have to run to those marginal scammy sites that are kinda designed to pyramid scam schizophrenic lower middle class American. I hope you'll enjoy it!

>>21218537
I mean, if they do exist by all means.

>>21218537
you won't because you are lying

>>21218537
Any bets its going to be some random lookalike since she looks like 1000s of other blonde girls.

>>21218604
>>21218665
Orly?

>>21218916
made me giggle, thanks

>>21218916
I have seen a lot of photoshops in my time and this is 100% real holy shit where did you find it?

>>21218390
For the record I think that
>mori is absolute garbage
>Connor is a dumb asshole
>Joey is cute and means well, but is dumber than the shit I took this morning
>Gigguk is based actually, some of his content is very good or very funny
>TT is boring and full of dumb takes
>anon is too ashamed of his desire to suck dick

I'm clarifying this so it's clear as day I'm not saviorfaging. Some gross incel kinda irked me, that's all.
I would saviorfag for kiara tho, she deserves the love.

>>21219010
>doesn't have a hooked nose
>nipple not inverted

Sydney might be a fucking moron, but she's prime fapbait.

>a fake and 2 randoms with completely diffrent head shape.

This guy.

Legit the only three worthwhile posts in this thread.

>>21218916
Wait, its fake...why must you do this to me...

>>21219548
Because it amuses me.

>>21219102
I liked this one, until I saw the elf ears cosplay

>>21218916
>that line across the cheek on the left side of the head in front of the hair
Bro.

Alright who the fuck is Sydsnap anyway? Other than she’s actually Hime, whom I hardly know because I can never catch her rare streams.

>>21220938
Gigguk's wife I think, I do know she has a genuine fetish for ntr porn though.

>>21210301
I knew her "reformed" attitude was a sham from the get-go. She was just gaining brownie points so she could spend it on stuff like this, and it sort of worked.

>>21221180
That’s it? That’s all she’s fucking known for?

>>21221893
She does videos on lewd stuff in japan

>>21221893
I'm not intimately familiar with any of their ilk, but I'm pretty sure she's one of those expats that does videos on japan and Japanese shit so people can live vicariously through her. There's some big insular group of them over there that all do the same shit and that's the crowd Mori's been hanging out with recently, so expect more of that from her. She showed up in one of her videos semi recently too, I remember people laughing about it.

>>21204340
It's completely open knowledge, you're not convincing anyone

>>21211329
Irys actually speaks jap and isn't in a self-made expat bubble, you don't need to worry about her

>>21209566
First I've heard of that, idk when she was in japan but seems like kinda a stretch

>>21210755
Roommate follows 10th wave ultra gigga turbo korean femnazi accounts, literally the "castrate all men/forcibly abort male fetuses" tier shit

>>21223843
I'm pretty sure she unfollowed them and then made a couple angry tweets at people about it lmao

>>21213815
>which they had nothing to do with
No one is going to take you seriously when you tell easily verifiable, flat out lies like this

>>21215411
He's exaggerating but not by much. Other RM pics will stay up for literally hours, even nsfw shit, posting K*ren will get you a vacation in seconds

>>21192369
I will never forgive Umaru Chan for being so bad it made him quit making videos

>>21224538
yes you can verify that they owned nothing related to the company, were paid nothing and made no money out of it. And had nothing to do with the idea and concept of whatever it was.

>>21224321
Well yea I'd try to cover my tracks too in her position

>>21225063
No one made any money off it because it was exposed as a scam and shut down before they could start selling that rugpull coin it was set up to push

>>21225898
Big anitubers were never gonna make any meaningful amount of money that is worth scamming people over, they didnt know it was some rugpull coin, and had no way of knowing.

>>21225063
Except they did. People posted the evidence in this thread many times and then you moved goalpost. Don't even bother replying to me, you're arguing in bad faith and I'm starting to believe you might be one of those fags seeing you're going to such lengths to defend them. I'm just replying so other anons look at the sources posted in this thread and find out the kind of scumbags these fags are.

>>21216762
It was worse than that; it wasn't a beauty contest, it was a poll (voted on ONLY by women) about social media influencers. He completely ignored this fact just to go on a virtual signaling rant about beauty standards

>>21226202
>fire is cold
>water is dry
Ok cool I can do it too

>>21226221
you dont know what youre talking about, do some research instead of spreading lies on your shitty crusade.

>>21226450
t. Some trash taste fag
Scared you're getting your ass deported once kadokawa finds out?

>>21226273
If you watch any content from Joey it becomes apparent pretty quickly that he is stupid. I'm not even shitting the guy, he is just a very low int person. And this kind of thing is what happens when a literal idiot has to grind weekly content for a living.

Anons stop whiteknighting for literal retards who would fall for an anituber scam.

Scammers are based.

>>21226600
>kadokawa finds out
youre delusional if you think they dont know everything.

>>21226221
What's funny is even pretending for a moment it wasn't a datamining/crypto scam, what were they even trying to do? Be a regulatory body for anime? Even on a surface level it was western subversive kikery. It's actually better that it wasn't genuine. Fuck everyone involved in that shit

>>21209566
Wait what?