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>> No.21160943
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>>21160873
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.21160956

>on time thread
Nandato!?

>> No.21161011

Oh hey, we went back to no one makes the thread for 10 mins

Also Koyo and Lui both ended and Iroha only got like 2k, but Subaru ended now so she might get a 10k

>> No.21161079
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Bros I'm not sure about Kobo I feel like her numbers might struggle if she CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY

>> No.21161100

https://youtu.be/q7jAGcQATFk
Blue vs Blue
No mercy.

>> No.21161109
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Pacific Racing merch status
https://twitter.com/pacificracing/status/1507947786142363648

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChhcieZzdkZfECz4KWaxWMw/videos

This JP channel is basically a Smol Ame clipper at this point. Look at all of that delicious views.

>> No.21161134

>>21161109

wamy power.

>> No.21161163
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Council is out-pacing HoloX. JP is on the decline.

>> No.21161164

>>21161109
>ramirez sold out
sasuga blue woman

>> No.21161180

>>21161127
all it takes is one viral tweet...

>> No.21161192

>>21161100
>Kobo-chan forgot to send Wamy a cute welcome message so she's getting mogged on her own debut
Oh no no no no no, I don't feel so good indog bros...

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Blue one… I’m sorry JP hates you…

>> No.21161239

>>21161192
>implying Lamy can even break 10k on a normal talking stream
Keep seething last samurai

>> No.21161267

fuck, not even 5 minutes after someone praises lamy this happens

>> No.21161268

>>21161109
damn, wamy's gachis are powerful
did she inherit some fandeads?

>> No.21161326
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>>21161200
she knows

>> No.21161327

https://youtu.be/YLjiWJv6lhA
Also Marine at 1hiut earlier but she never does 1hr stream, 100% overlapping, the blue girl is getting bullied, if Pekora shows up this will surpass JP streaming at Mori outfit reveal.

>> No.21161349

>>21161267
I have nothing against Lamy but only coping last samurais think she'll get more viewers than Kobo, all the other ID debuts have managed more than 30k.

>> No.21161380

>>21161268
Nah all the fandeads are now deadcucks because they saw kari-chan defending their beloved.

>> No.21161384

>>21159763
>>21159766
>>21160151
Yeah, other than Kiara, I don't think I've seen any holomems doing that. I don't know with any other corpos, but like >>21160360 said, I often found NijiEN doing that (i.e Alban after today's Valo collab)

>> No.21161392

>>21161327

read the title anon
it's a collab with lui. they will read some questions that people send on twitter
these kind of collabs rarely go for more than 1 hour

>> No.21161413

>>21161327
It's just a casual zatsudan collab with the least popular HoloX member, it's gonna be a debuff for her.

>> No.21161455

>>21161349
No one actually thinks she's going to beat Kobo in views, it was just a joke because they're overlapping

>> No.21161460

>>21161384
Can't blame NijiEN for doing that since they and their fanbase didn't inherit Japanese vtubing etiquette, they're either second-hand holofags whose first exposure to vtubing was HoloEN or invasive fujos who don't give a shit about any existing culture.

>> No.21161521

ID gold is secured no matter the numbers of overlaps.

>> No.21161535

>>21161267
Samurai schizo is the gen 5 schizo, what else is new? Fungus actually being both JP and EN schizos?

>> No.21161578

>>21161413
But that would be Iroha?

>> No.21161608

Is Pleinair a VTuber now? Why is she the OP?

>> No.21161627

>lucas duolingo numebrs
my boy, your numbers...do another celebration stream

>> No.21161648

>>21161608
/#/ threads always have a random OP pic, not sure why it's allowed but it is what it is

>> No.21161654

>>21161535
You mean Fuchan?

>> No.21161663

>>21161460
It's more like NijiEN is leaning too much on the existing Twitch vtuber culture. It's amazing that some HoloEN members haven't been infected by that.

>> No.21161671

>>21161608
OPs usually are something unrelated to avoid tribalfagging, you'd think that it doesn't work hence the state of these threads, but ops with chuubas tend to make threads worse

>> No.21161772

>>21161109
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1507953548247535618
All Lamy goods at AnimeJapan are now sold out both on-site and online.

>> No.21161818

>>21161663

It's a miracle that they didn't get affect that much. NijiEN and the way they say "cum" every 5sec literally makes me lose braincell.

>> No.21161823

>sora at 7k
how

>> No.21161826

>>21161671
Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.

>> No.21161885

>>21161823
utao

>> No.21161902

>>21161823

Look at the stream title

>> No.21161916

>>21161823
Daisenpai power anon, those who doubted her will eventually rot like Siro and Kizuna Ai.

>> No.21161941

>>21161823
Singing stream. Do you even check what's happening before commenting? Also, it's a mini-celebration (3 years since the debut of Dreaming!)
Also, none of the current ongoing streams have heavy 'tourist draw'.

>> No.21161963

>>21161818
Can you imagine one day when NijiEN stand on stage at a NijiFes, they would try to hump each other or do something unprofessional?

>> No.21161972

>>21161885
>>21161902
>>21161941
she hasn't had a stream this high since her first bdsp stream 4 months ago and there's been plenty of utawakus there, that's why i'm surprised

>> No.21162014

>>21161100
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1507957177214210052
She moved it.

>> No.21162070

>>21162014
Now if only the Apex gradations can move their stream.

>> No.21162091

>>21161963
Watamage blessed her

>> No.21162093
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>>21162014
Basedo
blue girl excellence

>> No.21162096

>>21161663
Yeah, but it boils down to lack of fan pressure. HoloEN debuted to an environment where the initial set of fans expected HoloJP, but in English. Even if the minority, they were vocal and that eventually set the norm. There was pressure to conform both internally and externally. NijiEN debuted to an initial set of fans who never liked how holoJP did things, remember how creative expression kept being thrown around as an argument?

>> No.21162136

>>21162070
That'll be a bit tougher since they're working around 3 schedules and Aqua's internet.

>> No.21162186

>>21161963
Imagine, at Nijifes, Vox and Mysta get a session like Council and all they do is say "haha, I'm cumming", "Oh no you're wet", "Do you guys like cum?" and it get translate to japanese.

>> No.21162279

>>21161972
One of the biggest issues with some of the weaker holomem is that they can't attract tourists as well as the stronger holomem. So when Sora does a stream in prime time her floor is like, 3k for MC and maybe 4k-5k for a singing stream. Right now, her competition is
>Flare, Corekeeeper, 8.5k
>Irohia Sekiro, 9.5k
The audience cap for this timeslot on the weekend is roughly 30-50k, depending, based off of when Pekora/Miko/Subaru were dueling it out. Also, consider that Holox fanbase is less integrated into the box(something I've noticed) and so overlaps with non-holox members affect them a bit less, as long as Pekora isn't deciding to sit for 6+ hours playing an RPG this slot is pretty good for weaker members to grab an audience.

>> No.21162328

>>21162096
I don't think what NijiEN doing right now is any more creative than HoloEN. In fact, I would argue that NijiEN contents are a lot more boring nowadays.

Where is that creative freedom that many NijiEN fans are clamoring about?

>> No.21162404

>>21162328
They are free.....to collab every other day. I swear it might be some cognitive bias or something, but it looks there's a collab between 3-4+ members every 2-3 days.

>> No.21162425

>>21162096
>remember how creative expression kept being thrown around as an argument?
ah yes, the time when timeloops were all about chemistry, creative freedom and coco's "real" reason for leaving hololive

>> No.21162448

>>21162328
They're free to say "cum", "fuck", "i drop my dick", "I'm hard"

>> No.21162463

>>21162404
Man, if that's creative freedom then stuff Ame is doing might be rocket fucking science to them.

>> No.21162521

>>21162425
it always ends up meaning "can talk explicitly about body excretions" and not doing checks on collab partners and having to apologize later for being adjacent to some bs drama

>> No.21162529

>>21162448
Is this possibly the reason why Luxiem has not gotten any sponsors yet? I remember past NijiEN waves getting sponsored relatively early in their career.

>> No.21162564

Sora gets so much preferential treatment it makes a mockery of the other livers.

>> No.21162575

>>21162279
you might be onto something with that holox comment, sora just ended and flare got a spike but not iroha

>> No.21162617

>>21162564
that's called respecting the people who built the foundations for you to reach bigger heights you mongrel

>> No.21162625

>>21162328
The freedom to be what they are now. What you're seeing now is the result of recruiting wholly from the Western vtubing indie scene after it's matured into its own community. I figure the main difference in fan culture is that on one hand you had Cover trying to replicate HoloJP, but in English, and on the other AnyColor were going for Nijisanjification of existing vtubers under the Nijisanji umbrella aka rebranding them as Nijisanji but not providing any other direction beyond that.

>> No.21162628

>>21162564
The fuck's a liver?

>> No.21162680

>>21162529
The pandering stuff resulting in some wack market demographics is probably the bigger reason. Despite some anons being context-blind and saying 'Numbers are numbers!', sponsors are not nearly as braind-dead. If they see that the majority of these faggots have their fanbases in non-english speaking markets that they don't have a presence in, it likely makes assigning a sponsorship that fits....difficult.

>> No.21162686

>>21162628
"A large lobed glandular organ in the abdomen of vertebrates, involved in many metabolic processes."

>> No.21162729

>>21162617
Yeah but her output is barely worth anything. Respect doesn't go that long of a way.

>> No.21162735

>>21162686
Oof Ouch, my liver. I've had a bit too much to drink
I remember the organ shitposts that popped up in the catalogue last year, those were pretty good.

Also, HERE in an hour, the weekly cover song ranking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZsdZVvYC4

>> No.21162771

>>21162680
They can attract the Western fujo market easily enough by having Luxiem read some western fujo webtoons on stream or something, NijiEN management probably just haven't figured that out yet because they don't actually know how to sell Luxiem to sponsors.

>> No.21162789

https://youtu.be/PweQL_h2pD0
holonijiID collab

>> No.21162793

https://twitter.com/zOBI8DN9d277dVV/status/1507950112303054850?t=X54xX-uzxSW3xJwMCzVuHA&s=19

The first rank guy is back.

>> No.21162860

>>21162789
it's nice to see Mika throw those poor holoID girls a bone to help them incline

>> No.21162896

>>21162789
Catching the post-debut funnel. That's some proper scheduling for an ID collab.

>> No.21162916

>>21162680
So i've seen this being thrown around here a lot. Does anyone have like.. a concrete proof for it or in reverse? Like a long time chuuba who does Luxiem(Vox, Mysta) style pander and doesn't get any sponsor or someone who did it and still had sponsor deal?

>> No.21162981

>>21160873
The auto battle of D6 is awesome. NIS should add it when they re-release their old games on pc

>> No.21162988

>>21162789
>HoloID inclining
>collab right away
You can't make this shit up

>> No.21162998

>>21162916
Look at NijiEN1 and 2, they get sponsors early in their career despite having a small audience.
Luxiem has a much bigger fanbase and yet, there is no sponsor for them after almost 4 months.

>> No.21163019

>>21162771
It can't be less profitable than Kronii and Mori shitting on a harem fantasy by purposefully voice acting the characters poorly even though it was funny. I don't watch Luxiem but a stream where they voice act some of the worst fujo shit on the planet would be funny.

>> No.21163032

>>21162916
nta but i usually see melody thrown around when this subject comes up

>> No.21163039

>>21162988
Mika is sucking everyone's dick to let her have the 1st NIjiID 3D debut

>> No.21163054

>>21162916
you ever saw gura/peko dec from cover that got leaked?
imagine that for luxiem and trying to find a sponsor for 80% female userbase coming from asia msotly and that has to be shilled by guys pretending to be gay on stream.
I DONT DOUBT they will get sponsor streams but i dont think gacha with big titty girls are going to be on the wiating line.

>> No.21163071

>>21163032
What's with her? Did she got Adam and Eve?

>> No.21163088

>>21162793
Well, hopefully we see him back in action, it was nice seeing him pull 4k+ on his premieres, but it'll probably take some time for the algo to pick him back up. Also, the bloke who took over for him, hope there's a peaceful transition of power back.

>> No.21163098

>>21163019
That's the thing, Kadokawa is in bed with Hololive and they are one of the biggest anime publishers.

I don't think there's any other publisher that is interested in NijiEN at all.

>> No.21163147

>>21163098

BL novel publisher. But Vox and Mysta needs to learn Chink first

>> No.21163155

>>21163054
>>21163098
they could get one of those book walker sponsors but luxiem sponsors selections seems pretty hard at the moment.

>> No.21163206

>>21162916
Vshojo. The majority of their sponsorships (if not all?) are through the Twitch bounty board, which means they aren't working with companies directly and are instead pulling from a curated list off of Twitch (who earns a portion of the cut as a result).

>> No.21163263

Fauna got 7.5k on a sponsored stream, which isn't that different that her usual numbers. If only she leaned harder into GFE she would have been a monster.

>> No.21163279
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>>21163098
Well, Petra was shilling AnimeJapan yesterday

>> No.21163308

>>21163206
At least Vshojo got $11M from investors for god knows what.
It would be funny if they see the success of HoloExpo and try to make a convention for ENvtubers in the States. Like, AnimeExpo, but for vtubers

>> No.21163322

>>21163054
Was Pekora even in that document? I only remember them having Sora-Fubuki-Aqua trinity as examples, shilling with a whole combined HoloJP stat and using Gura to shill HoloEN.

>> No.21163345

>>21163263
I don't think the appeal Fauna have right now is the kind that can be boosted with GFE.

>> No.21163352

>>21163263
Was that Blue Archive a sponsored stream?

>> No.21163389

>>21163279
Even a midget like her can get a sponsor, I wonder what is taking Luxiem so long.

>> No.21163415

>>21163352
Yes.

>>21163322
>Was Pekora even in that document?
Some brief mention of her Square Enix shilling. The document had more Iofi and Moona than Pekora. They're trying to find more in roads into western facing companies.

>> No.21163434

>>21163263

I'll say this again: Sapling are no joke. 6k is Fauna's floor, and it will keep rising overtime, slowly and steady

>> No.21163460

>>21162625
So, they're just freely copying Hololive?

>> No.21163466

>>21163088
These two have different ways of presenting the ranking.

>> No.21163499

>>21163434
Holofes also did her good. Saw some new JP fans of hers.

>> No.21163583

https://twitter.com/nekomataokayu/status/1507962024164163587
Interesting. Either Cover got annoyed with the numbers Kaela were pulling yesterday so now they're actually enforcing no overlap, or this last one is the designated 'leader' and Cover wants to shill her as much as possible.

>> No.21163595

>>21163389
Petra image is much sponsor-friendlier than Luxiem.

>> No.21163598

>>21163263
Gotta hand it to her, she starts off pretty weak but has definitely recovered to a good place. At first all she got was ASMR which was often scuffed at the beginning, she can neither sing nor speak JP, and despite her supposed to be the gamer she never plays anything to highlight it. Somehow she grinds enough to a good place here, and as someone said she has diehard saplings that will always watch her despite overlaps.

I wonder why Baelz wasn't able to get this though - she got good numbers still, but in comparison she always seem to get slaughtered in overlaps. She got more JP and KR fans with better collabs, her original song is pretty good, and yet it seems she wasn't able to have as many diehard fans despite everything.

>> No.21163632

>>21163434
Fauna is lowkey the darkhorse of HoloEN. She gets decent views for her streams. Her ASMR game strong as well.
And you kinda notice that when she doesn't stream, she is still everywhere. She does a lot of collaborations, both planned and surprised kinds.

Fauna is good at keeping herself visible in most HoloEN fans consciousness.

>> No.21163642

>>21163434
>slow and steady
It's still funny to me how this is in the NIJICOEP list yet Hololive is the one that actually employs it to great effect.

>> No.21163648

>>21163583

Holy shit the rrat.....

>> No.21163660

>>21163598
Fauna doesn't mention Holostars in her stream.

>> No.21163666

>>21163583
wew

>> No.21163678

>>21163583
Or Okayu doesn't want to overlap

>> No.21163691

>>21163499
Ah, still remember the mogumogu part like it was yesterday ...

>> No.21163695

>>21163583
that tweet asking for mercy really helped huh

>> No.21163705

>>21163583
Okayu seems like the person to atleast check other branches.

>> No.21163707

>>21163389
Market probably. The contracts are probably being negotiated as we speak. Anycolor had much less confidence in the males than we give them credit for so they probably took a wait and see approach whereas they were pursuing deals for LazuLight before they even debuted. Remember, Cover didn't get the bounty of the nissin sponsorship putting them on the map for months. These things take time.

>>21163460
No, the exact opposite.

>> No.21163712

>>21163583
Meanwhile Botan put up a zatsudan frame at the same time as Kobo.

>> No.21163740

>>21163642
Anon, HoloID1 incline is the best example of slow and steady

>> No.21163746

>>21163707
I'll believe it when I see it.

>> No.21163761

>>21163632

Literally, at first I thought she and Sana will be the bottom feeder of Council, but man I'm glad to be wrong on this one. Fauna is just so cute.

>> No.21163792

>>21163583
It's your distance cousin debut stream.
One hour of your day is not asking much.

>> No.21163836

>>21163761
I think the only one at the bottom is Sana. However, in Hololive, there is no being at the bottom forever.
This is the aspect that I like most about the brand, because you can eventually rise to the top.

>> No.21164011

>>21163598

Bae main problem is her accent. When she panic or get excited it become too annoying. Holostar only filter out a small part of her tourist, so it doesn't matter much

>> No.21164021

>>21163598
I think it's too hard for Bae to incline. The EN fanbase has gotten a thorough sampling of her when she turned every one of her minecraft streams into a solo pov council/myth collab last year. Notice how the non-NA girls are the bottom of EN. Their humor and personality are just not as congruent with the EN fanbase. And not to sound like an anti but their voices are not really pleasant to the ears.

>> No.21164124

>>21162328
>Where is that creative freedom that many NijiEN fans are clamoring about?
This. I've seen the word "creative freedom" get thrown around a lot, but I honestly don't understand what part of the things they are doing are related to creative freedom

>> No.21164166

>>21163598
>bruh.
> "chaos" on someone who's a good chill streamer.

Bae and Mumei should've swapped concepts, mumei fits the chaos more and civilization is flexible enough for bae. (or you know, no more chuuni shit)
i also think she hard filtered her fans with the roberu oshi talk (FUCK YOU OLLIE) and friendzoning the brats really early on

>> No.21164177

>>21163836

I hope Sana will get her chance to shine, too. Whatever errand she's currently doing behind the scene for Cover better pay off in the long run

>> No.21164182

>>21164124
It means less pressure to act certain ways or don't act certain ways. Creative people will be creative in many situations, Holo and Niji included. The main problem isn't the environment, it's just that most people creative.

>> No.21164210

>>21162564
>livers.
I wonder whose hands type this post

>> No.21164249

>>21164166
Everything wrong with council always comes back to omegatroon and his retarded lore. I will never not seethe about his debut at the end of their first collab. Fuck you, that was their night, not fucking staff night.

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A new milestone is about to be reached.

>> No.21164277

>>21164182
I think people forget that sometimes creativity actually thrive from limitation rather than freedom

>> No.21164289

>>21164124

When NijiEN fan said "creative freedom", what they truly mean is that NijiEN can play chink games and talk about cum & shit while Hololive can't.

>> No.21164303

>>21164182
Anon, there's literally no one in Hololive that is restricting the way those girls act.

>> No.21164308

>>21164182
>it's just that most people creative.
I mean most people are NOT creative.

>> No.21164392

>>21164303
The fans are, to a certain extent. Even Mori tries to be in line with fan expectations as reasonably as she can, in her own way.

>> No.21164420

Cover song numberfagging time
https://youtu.be/TVZsdZVvYC4

>> No.21164423

>>21164277
Too much creative freedom is what happened with Star Wars prequel trilogy

>> No.21164435

>>21163206
Just watch timmy apex today and he mentioned to his teammates to not do peepeepoopoo jokes or they won't get sponsors. He asked his teammates to be family friendly.

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21164452

now that ID3 and HomoJP4 is rolling out, next course is EN3 right(?) and if theyre auditions were the ones from late December. That'd drop them about Mid June to Early July maybe (?). Late July latest since August is already a packed month unless Cover decides to go pants on head and wait til like late September/Early Oct.

>> No.21164517

>>21164420
>Moona's cover suddenly jumped into the top 50
Is this after Holofes?

>> No.21164534

>>21164392
Anon, I'm not talking about the fans, I'm talking about companies restricting the streamers.
That's what most Niji fans like to scream about, because they think Cover is enforcing rules to limit the girls, not to protect them from the stupid copyright system of YT.

>> No.21164574

>>21164435
If their teammates are his actual friends, then they will intensify the peepeepoopoo jokes.

>> No.21164577

>>21164452
I'm still waiting for the mass graduations /vt/ were convinced of. Cover would have kept ID3 in their pocket if there was gonna be some.

>> No.21164601

>>21164577
wait there was talks of mass graduations (?) what

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This falls really hard.

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>>21163598
Bae seems to have a lot of people who have her a second favorite. Someone who people watch if their oshi isn't streaming. Her Powerwash stream grabbed almost 2k people when Ina ended. And then her Cyberpunk did the same with Ina and Mumei ending.

>> No.21164675

IRyS... god damn what a tragedy

>> No.21164678

>>21164601
>Once Fes is done, people are gonna graduate, Cover is a black company, and Rushia's firing proves it!
Those rrats. Yea, they were floating around, and yes they were dumb.

>> No.21164709

>>21164420
A week isn't complete without スパークル making the list.

>> No.21164718

>>21164452
Mark my word, HoloEN3 will include a performer after they witnessed the spectacle that was HoloFes.

>> No.21164740

>>21163308
That sounds like it would be a trainwreck considering Hololive at the very least trains their chuubas to be somewhat versatile as entertainers as per course for going the idol route and Nijisanji has the roster, tech, and various actual talented livers to make their fes a spectacle also.

Vshojo only has 2 or so members that can actually sing for comparison and the rest of the Twitch indies are just the average bog standard streamer.

>> No.21164751

>>21164618
>One doesn't stream
>The other one caught Covid
Without anyone to promote it I'm surprised it's still making it in the ranking.

>> No.21164755

>>21164675
Yeah, it's a great cover but it has no legs. Seems like another Cover that will just die around 600k-700k

>> No.21164766

>>21164718
Pretty sure the recruitment had mostly finished before the fes.

>> No.21164773

>>21164678
I feel like those types of rrats literally only form from people who dont actually watch any Hololive at all and they just assume stuff based on second hand opinions built by people who only pay attention to drama.

>> No.21164808

>>21164751
Cover generally is self-sufficient with no need for promotion.

>> No.21164822

>>21164766
So 6 months to wait for Cover to train up this batch of HoloEN. Have there been any hints on who might join?

>> No.21164845

>>21164652

Can confirm. Bae will always be my last choice behind Mumei, Fauna and Kronii.

>> No.21164865

>>21163088
>Peaceful transition of power back
There is already a perfect way to do it. Since neither of them could keep up with doing both the covers and originals list have one of them do the covers and one of them do the originals. That way we still get both lists every week.

>> No.21164878

>>21164618

Laplus basically own this song and that's a fact. No competition.

>> No.21164948

>>21164021
>voices are not really pleasant to the ears
Bae's voice is pure sex

>> No.21164997

>>21164948
Her actual voice is but Bae has a early Kiara problem where their in-character voice can get grating.

>> No.21165000

that takotori song is catchy as fuck

>> No.21165008

>>21162793
>>21163088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaBTjnrB4uA
Hmmm

>> No.21165046

>>21163712
https://twitter.com/shishirobotan/status/1507753652374499330
Looking at this tweet seems like it will be a mengen.

>> No.21165055

>okayu lui identity cover at number 11
Irys don't look...

>> No.21165070

>>21165008
Graduation...

>> No.21165099

>Flos on the top three last year
I just realized so many cover songs that were released over one year

>> No.21165104

>>21165008
suika hiragi sucks....i love the first numberfag guy

>> No.21165139

>ayame's goodbye sengen still in the top 10
How the fuck

>> No.21165138

>>21161163
No JP bros....
This can't be happening...

>> No.21165145

I find it funny that Smol Ame's handler also went viral alongside her.

>> No.21165166

>>21165139
Ayame doesn't have many covers to dilute viewers

>> No.21165167

>>21165139
nakiricucks loop that shit until she comes back for the monthly stream

>> No.21165180

>>21165145
It's just very memetic in general because of how helpless you are in those giant ass suits

>> No.21165181

YMDs still holding very strong 12m in a few weeks

>> No.21165235

>>21164420
Didn't expect fat cat to claim gold.

>> No.21165237

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZsdZVvYC4
10. Koyori - Onegai Darling (173,372)
9. Suisei and Mori - GETCHA (195,815)
8. Nene and Lamy - Hitorigoto (216,986))
7. Hololive EN - Ochame Kinou (221,403)
6. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen (222,583)
5. Botan - Sozo (267,906)
4. Mori and Gura - KING (351,113)
3. Laplus - Kamippoi (373,750)
2. Suisei - phony (484,486)
1. Okayu - Yona Yona Dance (596,935)

>> No.21165264

>>21164420
Damn, that's a lot of new covers coming up.

>> No.21165273

>>21165139
Nakirigumi exists for the sole purpose of repeating Goodbye Sengen every day.

>> No.21165284

>>21165237
koyo... i think streaming that much has made her a fanbase that won't watch vods or do reps, she's gonna end up like watame

>> No.21165288

>>21165099
I'm mostly interested in how much higher the bar is to get in the top rankings. 200k is pure baby level at this point.

>> No.21165303

>>21165237
Other than the new cover by fatcat, the rest has dropped to <500k weeklies. Fairly low numbers especially for post-holofes, as there used to be multiple 700ks weeklies during the preceeding months.

>> No.21165333

>>21165237
>suisei phony still on top 10
anya....

>> No.21165334

>>21164021
anon bae just incline pretty hard last month and this month is just not for her because she took a 1.5 weeks of break after bday, a lot of cancellation of streams cuz kittens got sick and overlaps. I think bea can come back stronger next month on how she can be creative in her streams.

>> No.21165355

Laplus is really impressive despite being new to Hololive. I predict she might be an important pillar for the brand in the future once she gets her 3D.

>> No.21165388

15k lamy, people love her ER run.

>> No.21165405

>>21164766
I want a British Hololive member next.

>> No.21165409

>>21165388
you fool, you praised wamy on this thread

>> No.21165436

>>21165355
5ch gonna explode when Laplus got 3D live.

>> No.21165506

https://youtu.be/NwXUlaluqb0
prediction?

>> No.21165523

>>21165405
Well, they really need someone to cover the dead time slot from morning burger time to prime EU time(Kiara is too weak) and does the initial box pushing for EN side

>> No.21165541

>>21165506
15k, but it's memey so 18k might be possible.

>> No.21165554

Does wesave.chat not archive holoX?

>> No.21165562

>>21165506
Gah why can't shit like this ever be on Gura's channel, lol? Although Mumei's channel isn't a huge debuff and its on a really good time slot for Gura's fanbase (no Kiara EU debuff).

I'm saying 30k.

>> No.21165570

>>21161163
Those EN whores don't deserve it

>> No.21165575

>>21165506
I remember Reine doing a room review and pulling insane numbers for herself, so probably 15k~ since its Mumeis channel. If it was Guras maybe 20-25k

>> No.21165581

>>21165506
25k These two is a power duo, they can get it even with CCVID.

>> No.21165592

>>21165562
because it's Mumei's stream
she ask others on discord who wanted to join her
and gura answered

>> No.21165593

>>21165506

22k

>> No.21165597

>>21165506
20k+.
That waiting room is up early, and a one-on-one Mumei x Gura collab hasn't been done before.

>> No.21165599

>>21165506
At least 20k

>> No.21165628

>>21165597
anon.. your rep..

ark collab

>> No.21165638

Flare core keeper 12k is surprising, this game remind me of steamworld dig minecraft edition.

>> No.21165639
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>>21161163

>> No.21165640

>>21165436
If Laplus is as memorable as Emma August’s 3D, I will fucking kneel

>> No.21165642

>>21165581
CCVID doesn't affect ENs and it's over and has been over for 2 months.

>> No.21165667

>>21165506
30k if they swap character and try to sounds like each other for memes.

>> No.21165687

>>21165642
>CCVID doesn't affect ENs
Nice bait. Here's your (You).

>> No.21165694

>>21165642
No i'm talking about the time when this duo got over 20k while CCVID was still going on.

>> No.21165698

>>21165638
it's basically top down terraria just not as developed.

>> No.21165709

>>21165628
....
I'm a dumbass, I completely forgot about that one. Aqua's apex streams completely jumbled my memory of that day.

>> No.21165720

>>21165640
Well she's not going to do the things emma did but the model will be better lol

>> No.21165739

>>21165640

>Laplus 3D
>Talk in loli voice
>Sing kamippoi na
My knee will bend itself

>> No.21165754

>>21165709
I remember there's that one anon who kept comparing the VOD of Pekora's ARK, Aqua's apex and Samei's Collab on that day

>> No.21165762

>>21165698
top down terraria with stardew valley's UI, i watched koyo play it the other day and i was left kinda interested, it's early access but i think it has potential

>> No.21165790

>>21165739
It'd be a 100k event if nothing else. Maybe.

>> No.21165794

>>21165008
nothing too surprising
shilled his new site https://suikatube.com/

>> No.21165807

>>21161163
>2k last day on Bae

Go! Bae! Go!

>> No.21165837

>>21161163
>Iroha
The absolute state

>> No.21165890
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21165890

looks like Lamy got kidnapped into volcano manor

>> No.21165951

>>21165237
Looks like Suisei's legs are as long as ever lmao

>> No.21165962

>>21165890
explain this to non fromsoft drones

>> No.21166008

>>21165962
There is a trap at the bottom of Hogwarts that can kill you and teleport you directly to Volcano Manor. She basically skipped Liurnia, Atlus, and Mt Gelmir.

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>>21166008

>> No.21166050

>>21164249
Keep seething. He's gonna tweet soon. Nothing you do will remove him from EN. Not even your oshi.

>> No.21166065

https://youtu.be/Drlm5mm9MSA
Luna is back and the first thing she gonna do is overlap a debut

>> No.21166094

>>21166008
Now post again in English

>> No.21166099

>>21166065
I wonder if she's still pissed and if Cover kneeled behind the scenes to keep the most likely to graduate vtuber from graduating.

>> No.21166106

Lamy 20k get.

>> No.21166114

Blue Fauna 20k

>> No.21166115

>>21166065
She doesn't give a fuck huh, pretty sure she overlapped several JP events as well

>> No.21166122

>>21166046
Further explanation
Volcano Manor is a dungeon, and there are two ways to go about it
Path 1 : complete a bunch of 'assassination quests' which then leads you to an express short-cut to fight the boss
Path 2 : take a teleport by getting 'killed' in a trap, which then puts you in the dungeon's entrance from which you navigate your way to the boss
Lamy is taking path 2, which also means you skip having to make your way on foot to Volcano manor.

>> No.21166142

Who's that monkey on Risu thumbnail?

>> No.21166163

>>21163632
fauna struggled at the start because she was hesitant on reaching to collab. her goals for this year to do lots of collab. she's been on the incline since her mario kart collab with gura.

>> No.21166192

>>21166142
Maha5 Wukong

>> No.21166238

>>21166192
Wait, is that Wukong or Hanuman?

>> No.21166249

>>21166046
>>21166094
She triggered a trap and teleported to a place above her level.

>> No.21166354

>>21166099
At this point I am convinced Fulgur and Omega are the same person.

>> No.21166368

>>21164182
Sorry in advance if I sound like I'm tribalfagging, but if I'm not catching your words wrong you're implying
>Nijisanji is not restricting their talents unlike Hololive
Look, I get it that Holos can't cross a some lines that can be seen as bad for public image and believe it or not that sort of restriction is benefitting the talents in the long run. Just take a look at sponsorships. Would Yamaha music or the likes give sponsorships to the likes of Luxiem? Yeah, Luxiem could get sponsorship from a brand that was targeting fujo audiences, but those sponsorships won't be as big as sponsorships from mainstream brand.

>People can be creative even if the environment is shitty
Look, I admit I didn't watch NijiEN and I only try to watch a few clips of Enna singing stream, Identity cover by Enna&Millie, a few short clips about NijiEN but I forgot what sort of clips and the latest offcollab ASMR between Vox&Mysta curiosity got the better of me and jesas I regret my actionso please give me some examples of their creativity who knows, maybe it will make me interested to NijiEN
But I can give you examples from the holos I watch the most that are creative
>Miko playing around with her model to kiss Haachama and Ame, recreate the driving experience in her racing streams, recreate the experience of watching a live stripshow in gta streams
>Suisei and her shilling her solo live during new outfit reveal stream
I can give more examples if you want, but I think you can get my point by now.

>> No.21166388

>>21166238

More like Wukong to me.

>> No.21166465

>>21164289
the chink games are understandable, but not talking about cum and shit a lot in your streams will look better to sponsors in general and being more family friendly can bring more audiences no?

>> No.21166487

>>21165334
For the love of god you idiots look at her streams. Every stream she has in February that is above her usual 5k is either a collab, gimmick stream, or karaoke. She spammed these streams that month which is why she "inclined". Other than those streams she got her usual 5k in solo streams. She still gets her usual 5k in her streams this month. Her birthday month just inflated her numbers. She did not incline in her core fanbase.

>> No.21166551

>>21166465

Yes, that's why you haven't seen any Luxiem sponsorship. They can't live for more than 5 minutes on stream without a cum joke

>> No.21166568

>>21166487
Sounds like the core issue is with Bae herself, then. Does she even have a niche that she can fill?

>> No.21166578

>>21164618
It can't be help, there're too many Kamippoi covers out there
La+ version is better too, in terms of quality and numbers. Honestly, I also prefer the nippleman kamippoi rather than this one.

>> No.21166653

>>21166551
Maybe they should aim for the durex sponsor?

>> No.21166675

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1507995110151131136

Suisei is going to overlap ID debut too.

>> No.21166686
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>>21166653
kek

>> No.21166700

>>21166368
I feel like the environment in Nijisanji is more open, for example, I remembered someone in nijiEN said stuff about non binary, gayshit right? That stuff wouldn't fly in Hololive. I also see that the Niji girls swear way more often than the holo girls. In Niji you could be almost anything whereas in Hololive, there's a certain line you can't cross.
Now of course just because they have more creative freedom doesn't mean they will be more creative.
t. Someone who only barely watches both of them

>> No.21166705

>>21166653
they are gonna end up like the ads on 4chan

>> No.21166717

>>21166675
This one's already known, and well...can't be helped to be honest. Scrims with Aqua's internet right now, and one of her PCs having issues, means that just getting the 3 of them together to stream live is hard. Fortunately, apexfags are mostly separate from the rest of the fanbase, but....well, yea. Just really crummy timing.

>> No.21166719

>>21166568
Yeah I think that's the problem with Bae, she did a ton of things great but not amazing, she's well liked by people but not their top favorite and that's why she's awful with overlaps.

Honestly for now she need to reassess a bit, she filled a gap when plenty of Council aren't streaming at all but now they seem to be a bit more active. Literally the slow and steady approach would work best for her, keep putting up covers and orisongs as well, if she's as good a dancer as she claims to be she'll incline when she can get her 3d debut too.

>> No.21166772

>>21163583
Okayu's a sucker for blue women preasu undastand.

>> No.21166776

>>21164652
Sadly yes. My expectation was quite high when I saw the Council's trailer. I like her design the most out of the rest of Council and her portrayed as chaos kinds of intrigued me.
She's entertaining, I will giver her that. But she need that special factor that will make people loyal to her.
I really can't understand why tf Cover is assigning the chaos role to her, if anything she is sweet, even her PL is a sweet chara too.

>> No.21166787

>>21166700
Swearing isn't really an issue and is mainly on the girls themselves. Kiara swears like a sailor, there are multiple clips of Mori and Ame cursing, and even Gura drops a few F-bombs when she gets tilted like in today's Kirby stream. So it's more like a self-imposed ban because they want to project a certain image

>> No.21166800

>>21166700

See my point ? This is why "creative freedom" will always be in the Nijicope list.

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>>21166787

>> No.21166832

>>21166776

For me it's because Yagoo isn't doing the interview anymore.

>> No.21166837

>>21166568
She might honestly be better off by consolidating her core fanbase with GFE to really stand out. But it being EN and her connection to the stars might make that a pipedream.

>> No.21166884

>>21166787
Kiara is nothing compared to girls like Selen. Of course it could be that Cover only hire "good" girls or it could be that the environment expect them to not swear too much. I'm sure Cover won't stop them from swearing though

>> No.21166912

>>21166806
Clip please? That sounds hilarious

>> No.21166946

>>21166912
https://youtu.be/oMtxwO7sZgk

>> No.21166964

Speaking of Bae and the new ID, did anyone feel like the amount of possible talents who were fan of HoloJP (aka those who's most devoted and least problematic) has gone down significantly? Seeing the new IDs make me fear that EN3 will be fill the casual fan who know jack shit about JP side.

>> No.21166968
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Is this Lamy's breakthrough year?
Her numbers are far higher than Mito and Lize, it's really amazing.
I think Nijisanji needs to give their other talents more importance.

>> No.21166989

>21k for lamy
And enniggers still talk about their imaginary number instead

>> No.21166991

>>21166700
Anon, last night Shion karaoke stream has poll with the option being;
>Female
>Male
>Neither

As much as this board likes to rage against LGBT+ stuff, Cover is still a modern company with modern sensibilities.

>> No.21167004

>>21163583
They are probably enforcing it, since overlaps are actually hurting the company by not giving enough exposure to the new debuts. It's just 1 hour a day, they can stream after that instead of screwing the newcomer

>> No.21167019

I'm usually not up this time on Sundays, is it normal for so many of them to be streaming this early JST? You rarely see some of these streamers before 7PM.
>>21166968
Lamy's always had an insanely loyal fanbase but since last August she's been inclining nonstop.

>> No.21167022
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Lamy's Elden Ring runs get much higher viewership than Kuzuha.

>> No.21167023

>>21166991
That is nothing in comparison with Nijisanji though.

>> No.21167030

>>21166964
Not really, it's just that there are more people applying now and the non-hololive fans outnumbered the Hololive fans.

>> No.21167035

>>21166884
Uhh you got it backwards.
Selen is more seiso than Kiara relatively speaking.

>t. KFP that sometimes watch purple dragon FPS streams

>> No.21167041

Ignore stupid EN vs JP timeloop bullshit please.

>> No.21167045

>>21166368
I don't think NijiEN is creative as far as I've seen, I'm just saying there is probably potential but it takes someone who is actually creative to do something with it. Pearls before swine.

>> No.21167065

>>21167019
It's because of the debut. Since the poor gal asked her senpai for mercy, mercy she shall get (with the exception of Apex. Apex has mercy for no-one).

>> No.21167068

>>21166964

Just wait until after Kobo debut. If she also said her favorite senpai are Ina and Mori then we're doomed. With Council atleast they have Bae as a weeb, ID 3 to me is just a bunch of normies

>> No.21167072

>>21167019
pretty normal on weekends, at this hour it's usually the ones who start between 10 and 1pm who have been streaming for hours, but today seems like the starting times have been more spread out

>> No.21167075

>>21167041
He's been trying so hard, barely anyone bit though.
Bless this thread.

>> No.21167081

>>21167022
Also better than any en

>> No.21167090

>>21167023
Of course, afaik, Holo still doesn't have the Hayase moment.
But the notion that this kind of thing is prohibited to bring on stream is ridiculous.

>> No.21167095

>>21167022
Kuzuha did hours-long runs at the start and burned his audience out on that shit. Did you not see how many hours he dumped into it right when it came out?

>> No.21167117

>>21166991
You don't understand me don't you? Cover won't do anything but the culture of Hololive will expect you to not cross some lines.
If Pomu got hired by Cover, would she behave the same way she's doing right now? Probably not.
Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.

>> No.21167130

>>21167095
Meh, King's autism is nothing new and his paypigs know about that.

>> No.21167170

>>21167117
Are we talking about restrictions put upon by the corpo or fans here?
I know that some HoloJP fans are really uptight with those kind of thing, but they're not put off by senchou BL/multiverse staff so I don't think majority really cares that much.

>> No.21167184

>>21166991
> Neither

More like "doesn't want to specify".
Trannies are still illegal globally.

>> No.21167202

>>21167170
>stuff

>> No.21167209

>>21167117

Look, if you still insist that "creative freedom" = talking about cum, how they want to fuck each other, and cum, and fuck each other, and cum, then go back to NijiEN thread. Also might as well watch VShojo.

>> No.21167212

>>21167117
If Pomu was in Hololive, the Gura character might be dead last in sub.

>> No.21167230

>>21167184
>Dochira demo nai
translate that EOP faggot

>> No.21167299

>>21167230
> A tranny calling others faggots.
Are you lost?

>> No.21167302

>>21167209
>how they want to fuck each other
He who is without sin may cast the first stone.
Hololive is guilty of this.

>> No.21167312

Lamy 22k

>> No.21167333

>>21167299
I'm pretty secure in my masculinity, thank you very much.
Now could you translate what Shion karaoke poll last night says?
Bet you can't huh retard

>> No.21167339

>>21167302
I will concede the day Reine is loudly exclaiming about her fellow colleagues juices.

>> No.21167350

>>21161163
What about the last 60 days? 30 days is not enough data to have a well informed opinion.

>> No.21167357

>>21167333
It says "doesn't want to specify", nigger.

>> No.21167356

>>21167209
???
I never said the results would be better. Look at the indie scene right now which has true freedom, Niji is closer to the Indies than Holo
>>21167170
I'm talking about the environment, If Pomu got into Hololive she would stop doing what she's doing right now not because anyone force her to stop, because it would feel so ridiculous to do shit like that in Hololive.

>> No.21167364

>>21167339
Matsuri. Case closed forever. You lost and I won.

>> No.21167366

>>21167339
Anon, Reine is high class lady

>> No.21167368

>>21167302

Yeah. but at the very least they're subtle about it and not spam that shit every 5 second on stream.

>> No.21167393

>>21167364
Danchou is also suspect.

>> No.21167397

>>21166964
The barrier for entry into the fanbase is easier than ever before, so it makes sense that there will be new members who would cite Gura or Mumei as their oshi eventually. But it's not something to worry about. As long as there's enough inter-branch collabs and events like the Mario Kart tournament or Minecraft festivals, and the old guard is there to teach the new blood about their senpais, the new members can eventually learn to love and respect HoloJP too.

>> No.21167433

Thanks to NijiEN's creative freedom, they might drive sponsors towards HoloEN.

So I highly encourage NijiEN to be more creative.

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>>21167368
>subtle
Maybe it doesn't happen as often and maybe it isn't as crass but subtle it is now.

>> No.21167454

>>21167356

And we've return to the timeloop: what's the true freedom that indies has beside playing chink games and talks about cum ? Name it.

>> No.21167463

Are we reaching a point where we measure creative freedom with how many liters of cum the talents are willing to talk about?

>> No.21167471

>>21167454
Live prostitution. Oh wait, Luxiem does that.

>> No.21167470

>>21167454
Talking about their boyfriends, which is a big number buff!

>> No.21167478

>>21167454
Having 3D models not approved by some JP pencil pusher, getting outfits when they want, playing games with mods.

Nijisanji doesn't have this creative freedom.

>> No.21167485

>>21167463
Yes. That's supposedly what NijiEN fans think when they talk about "muh creative freedom"

>> No.21167488

NijiJP has more freedom than HoloJP, it's not even a question right?
Also, Vshojo has more freedom than both of them

>> No.21167500

>>21167488
How many liters more though?

>> No.21167502

>>21167454
...Playing with men?

>> No.21167515

>>21166700
>>I feel like the environment in Nijisanji is more open, for example, I remembered someone in nijiEN said stuff about non binary, gayshit right?
How is that a good thing? Fuck mental illness attention whoring.

>> No.21167513

I just can't imagine what sort of company would benefit from them sponsoring luxiem. Luxiem's fans are give or take 70% mainland chinese women. knowing that, traditional game companies won't want to sponsor them because of the demographic. There's also the problem of the different markets on china, so that limits the amount of sponsors.

>> No.21167527

>>21167488
Now that Vshojo has completed their first funding round ($11M).
Will other corpos start suing them since they are no longer indies?

>> No.21167525

>>21167488
Yeah, NijiJP does have more freedom than Hololive, freedom to fail too. Many don't take advantage of it but the ones who do do stand out. This hasn't bleed out into the EN branch, yet.

>> No.21167531

>>21167478
Getting pennies for streaming

>> No.21167540

>>21167502
But Holos aren't banned from doing that...

>> No.21167547

>>21167502
FBK, Matsuri, Chocosen, RBC...

>> No.21167558

>>21167527
Probably not, if you are talking about game permissions then it's only because of JP autism, react content on the hand i'm unsure of.

>> No.21167561

>>21167454
being able to talk about cum is freedom, you can't deny it
Why do holofags always take this like it's an insult towards them?
Literally the first thing I said was that Holo could still be more creative than Niji.

>> No.21167566

>>21167527
On what ground?
Indie isn't a binding term.

>> No.21167568

>>21167547
Those don't count. Any time a holo collabs with a guy it doesn't count. Holos are banned from collabing with guys since most don't and I say so.

>> No.21167569

>>21166946
Thanks, chumanon.

>> No.21167572

>>21167527
.....
No, because they're not based in Japan, which is the big sticking point for a lot of the permissions bullshit. NA companies are 'cucked' on this point, due to the amount of flak the entire western streaming scene gave Nintendo when they tried to hardline this shit years ago.

>> No.21167578

>>21167561
Cum is probably his fetish.

>> No.21167582

>>21167527
What will they spend $11M for?

>> No.21167593

Oh god, we lost anal-rimming schizo and gained cum schizo in his place

>> No.21167598

>>21167578
Hopefully he actually buys his videos instead of pirating them.

>> No.21167604

>>21167356
>Niji is closer to the Indies than Holo
I don't put indies on this high plane of perfection, in fact I put them lower than Nijisanji by a few orders or of magnitude.

>> No.21167611

>>21167547
remember how many dislike Fubuki and Matsuri got when they started to collab with men? Literally one of the reason Pekora Apex stream got a high number of dislikes some months ago was because the Japs didnt want her to collab with men

>> No.21167631

>>21167582
Depends on why they got the funding. I don't know why they have it, just to operate the thing and pay back the investors? Sounds like a shit deal.

>> No.21167636

>>21167611
How many did they get? I remember looking through that before YT disabled comments and fucking Aqua got more by apexautists.

>> No.21167641

>>21167611
Thank god FBK and matuli don't pay them any mind then.
Unicorn is a dying breed anon, a loud but endangered species.

>> No.21167654

>>21167611
Fubuki has one of the best months in hololive of all time recently or are we gonna forget that to drive your narrative?

>> No.21167673

>>21167631
Vshojo's "management" might be one of the most incompetent I have seen. But somehow they still get investors.

>> No.21167675

What the fuck to this thread. Why the fuck is there some retard war of Niji vs Holo in a numbers thread? Fuck off.

>> No.21167681

>>21167611
That didn't stop them from playing with men, and Pekora's case is invalid since she didn't play Apex to specifically play with men

>> No.21167687

>>21167654
What does that have to do with what the anon said?

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>>21167675
Hey there newfag, welcome to /#/

>> No.21167697

>>21167611
All the way back in 2018? It was normal back then, girls like Mugi or Claire who got a significant amount of unicorns were the exception.

>> No.21167711

https://youtu.be/aBlUC-0pdwc
Gen7 announcement inside

>> No.21167718

>>21167654
Unlike you I'm here since the /hlg/ era.
You can't see it right now but Fubuki-Oga streams used to get a lot of dislikes when they started to collab, don't pretend like the unicorn isn't a problem in the Hololive fandom

>> No.21167730

>>21167673
How many months are we away from an embezzlement charge?

>>21167687
I little scuff from a handful of people didn't really do anything and there is precedent for collabs with males not hurting at all. If a holo wants it then it's there for them.

Also Flare, Iroha, and Chloe are the only holojps not to collab with males.

>> No.21167736

>>21167718
Go back.

>> No.21167743

>>21167711
>gen 7
Mass graduations are true.

>> No.21167745

>>21166568
Bae's niche content is her VA content and zatsus. Which doesn't bring in a lot of people to check her out.

>>21166719
Bae has definitely had the slow and steady approach from the start, she went from being 10k behind Fauna in subs to now being 17k ahead.
>keep putting up covers and orisongs as well
Bae has 5 projects in the works and is still doing room renovations. She hasn't explained what her projects are yet but at least 1 would have to be cover or original song.

>> No.21167753

>>21167697
2019 IIRC. You have to filter out these unicorns over time. If Pekora suddenly started to collab with men, they would shit on her as well

>> No.21167761

>>21167730
Wait, I don't remember any of Gen 3,4, or 5 for that matter, collabing with men?

>> No.21167770

>>21167711
holoGra is too powerful.

>> No.21167779

Somehow collabing with men or not ended up our topic for the day.

>> No.21167787

>>21167761
Fuck, I forgot Towa rpr colab and YMD-PatMan interview

>> No.21167806

>>21167711
>gen 7 is toast
DOA

>> No.21167807

>>21167770
Speaking of HoloGra, will HoloEN or ID have such a show now that they all got 3D?

>> No.21167833

>>21167711
holy shit, a somewhat funny hologra

>> No.21167841

>>21167807
They should just appear in the main. I can't imagine how bad an EN would be with only 5 characters and ID with 3.

>> No.21167843

>>21167718
>early 2020 at most
You sure showed them newfriend!
And no, foxdemon collabs dont even get 4 digits dislikes even when FBK got chinks after her ass. They do net low views as expected however. The only 'unicorn' problem Holo has is larpers pretending to be one harassing the talents and the fans.

>> No.21167852

>>21167807
They will. That's why they were hiring hologra writers for EN and ID

>> No.21167855

>>21167711
Weird shilling

>> No.21167859

>>21167711

Wtf they're all Sana nepotism hire ???

>> No.21167862

>>21167779
It's mostly just one dude declaring that the unicorns day is counted.

>> No.21167865

7th gen looks scrumptious

>> No.21167871

>>21167841
One character is more than enough to make dozens of 4koma contents

>> No.21167876

>suddenly 8 streams at 6pm
this is bullying r- ah....

>> No.21167880

>>21167711
Made me want to download it only to find out there's no global version

>> No.21167891

>>21167753
>2019 IIRC. You have to filter out these unicorns over time.
Well both Matsuri and Fubuki started in 2018 and them collabing with males was not unusual. They got more unicorns in the following years, not less.

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>>21167859

>> No.21167909

HoloGra is such a good shilling method that I don't know why more companies aren't hiring Cover to make a HoloGra commercial

>> No.21167934

How much money is Sega paying for Sin Chronicle sponsorship? They have a Hologra ep, and a 3D stream soon. It's like Niji's poker chase all over.

>> No.21167937

>>21167909
Eh, best to do it sparingly, you don't want hologra to turn into a weekly shilling session after all.

>> No.21167939

>>21167909
Too expensive

>> No.21167943

>>21167891
>They got more unicorns in the following years, not less
Proof?
Foxdemon is still very much alive, matuli and astel collabed last October(?) and I don't see much unicorn raging about

>> No.21167946

>>21167761
Coco did with Choueki Tarou and I suppose the interactions with the Virtual Economist might as well be considered a collab too.

>> No.21167948

>>21167891
Considering all the sponsorships they get they're richer than ever after collabing with males. Makes me think the entire male collab thing is voluntary and part of the arsenal any creative person has. Maybe just coasting and keeping you gachikoi happy is okay for some since it pays and requires no effort.

>> No.21167959

>>21167934
Sega LOVES Hololive. It's actually kind of crazy how much they love them alongside Square Enix.

>> No.21167969

>>21167943
the last foxdemon collab happened in a week where fubuki was getting nothing but 10 to 15ks and it got a 5k, half her fans disappear when it happens

>> No.21167977

>>21167761
Is your mind a sieve anon? Holy shit

>> No.21168000

>>21167969
>source: trust me bro

>> No.21168013

>>21167943
>Proof?
There having been any resistance to Foxdemon at all. 2018 Fubuki would hang out with whoever, as was normal with most of the vtuber scene at the time, 2020 Fubuki however got some (if minor) backlash.

>> No.21168014

>>21167909
They get very good VOD views compared to Maruyama or your average shilling stream as well. But yeah this >>21167937
>>21167948
They'll get richer all the same even without collabing with males, it's down to preference and how your fanbase reacts to it

>> No.21168016

>>21167959
Komani is the only company left with Nijisanji. I expect no less from them.

>> No.21168018

>>21167843
big enough that Botan got mad at an SC talking about it. Matsuri and Fubuki can overcome it but someone like Pekora won't be able to.
>>21167891
Not really, the unicorns will left as soon as they realize the girls won't stop collabing with men no matter what they do. Or in the case of Matsuri, her fans just don't care anymore.

>> No.21168022

>>21168000
Are we just going to pretend that male collabs is a buff in hololive from now on?

>> No.21168026

>>21168016
>Sultan 3D pachinko stream
true I guess

>> No.21168029

>>21167761
for gen 5, botan has collabed with men but only for a sponsored event shit and she had to talk to her chat about it, polka collabed with peanuts kun this week and no one gave a shit cause it's polka

>> No.21168047

>>21167948
Those male collabs always get lower numbers than female collabs.
The audience may have not verbally expressed their preferences, but their absence speaks louder than the cries of collab beggars.

>> No.21168053

>>21168022
Faggot I never said male collab is a buff. Stop putting words in my mouth.

>> No.21168057

>>21168018
Botan had to lay down the law on a grey name. Not sure why you'd consider this a big thing.

>> No.21168059

>>21168022
Yes? Botan had the highest viewership in that BF tourney teaming up with men

>> No.21168066

I'm surprised that ArcSys has not approached Cover to do something with Holo IPs. It would be lit though.

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>>21168000
the 1ks are watchalongs btw, those are normal numbers for them

>> No.21168095

>>21168066
They've got loads of shit to do already

>> No.21168104

>>21168059
bait gold

>> No.21168108

>>21168053
>>21168059
What is your consensus about it?

>> No.21168121

>>21168018
>Or in the case of Matsuri, her fans just don't care anymore.
No you see, Matsuri used to do stuff like 27 and JK without anyone minding, then after the Hololive boom she suddenly had fans who DID mind. Those fans have indeed gradually stopped caring or left her, but there was a shift around 2019/2020.

>> No.21168141

>>21168057
it's annoying enough that she had to address it that way.
Imagine people like Pekora or Lamy having a casual (non sponsor, no ecelebs) collab with men. A shit show is gonna happen

>> No.21168148

>>21168108
Big debuff in the beginning, weak debuff in the subsequent collab.
But I guess FBK and matuli aren't normal chuuba so my assumption is flawed

>> No.21168176

>>21168121
>2019/2020
>The time where .Live imploded

>> No.21168178

>wake up
>Lamy's elden ring 20k
All is right in the world.

>> No.21168197

>>21164948
Agree but this anon >>21164997 is also correct
Although it was better for streamers to sounds hype in general, that formula just can't work for some people.

>> No.21168207

official tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_official/video/7079702290592025857

>> No.21168223

>>21168197
What is an example of someone who can sound hype like them and still not filter people?

>> No.21168244

>>21168223
matuli I guess?

>> No.21168261

>>21166832
Excuse me for being a newfag but Yagoo used to joined in during the interviews?
I know he was involved in the interviews for early JP members but other branches too?

>> No.21168263

>>21168176
That's surely part of it, yeah.

>> No.21168264

>>21168141
Which is why they avoid it. It's not uncommon in Holo.
>>21168223
Duck

>> No.21168291

>>21168261
I think he even went over to indonesia to meet the first gen in person before their debut, the following gens i have no clue about.

>> No.21168296

>>21168261
ID 1 was interviewed by YAGOO.
The man flew to jakarta himself.

>> No.21168303

>>21161648
I can see the internal logic, though. Pleinair is from Disgaea, and Disgaea is the ultimate numberfag JRPG series.

>> No.21168331

>>21168223
This guy sounds hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSM_SO0GIBc

>> No.21168335

So did the old guards of vtubers finally fall into irrelevancy?

>> No.21168380

>>21168331
oh god why does that video fuck with my breathing

>> No.21168383

>>21168261

Uh yeah he interviewed ID gen 1, or atleast Iofi

>> No.21168396

>>21159355
Those are good numbers for Petra.
>>21158552
>>21159761
Imagine being the retards who say "demise" of nijien "talents" and being below vspo when the CCV of more than 20 girls who always were at the top of Nijisanji still are at it.
As for the retard talking about sub and CCV with Vspo, it's funny how that argument is refused when it's against hololive..

>> No.21168399

>>21164675
Her Identity is really good, sounds better than the one by Okayu and Lui
But the numbers....
The vsinger brand is such a debuff
What a wasted potential

>> No.21168407

>>21168383
he was in jakarta when they were starting. all id1 went to dinner with him.

>> No.21168415

>>21168383
I think I remember Moona said the same thing, but I could be wrong.

>> No.21168417

>>21167022
>>21166968
If there's an anon who I hate a lot is you. It's fucking obvious you are the vspo faggot who is actually a holodrone.

>> No.21168436

>>21168399
I think she will become more powerful once she get her 3D model. Cover probably gonna work her ass out once that happen.

>> No.21168438

>>21163389
>>21163595
Petra swears in all of her streams anon. Just on sponsorship streams she doesn't.

>> No.21168464

>>21168291
>>21168296
Need source on this. Jeezaz Yagoo

>> No.21168473

>>21168399
>sounds better than the one by okayu and lui
No it doesn't IRyS isn't half the singer Lui is

>> No.21168499

>>21168436
3D model will have a redesign. IRyS has literally threatened murder suicide over it.

>> No.21168504

>>21168438
Petra sps (swear per sentence) is very low.

>> No.21168507

>>21168464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jiQAD29lco

>> No.21168535

>>21168499
Yeah no. IRyS isn't green woman.

>> No.21168542

>>21168464
>>21168507
mooner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdFkoPm9a2Y

>> No.21168550
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21168550

Mio 20k

>> No.21168559

>>21168507
>>21168542
For fucks sake, was Risu the only one with an iota of knowledge of the company she applied to?

>> No.21168564

>>21168535
Fauna...

>> No.21168567

>>21168464

That 1 time Yagoo fly to Jakarta he scouted Moona and Risu. And maybe you already know their power level after Holofes3. Also Iofi, she has some sort of connection in the artist and VA circle.

>> No.21168568

>>21168464
Yagoo is such a dedicated CEO. The reason he is not doing it now is probably that he is too busy with other ventures.

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>>21168550
Big Hag Mion

>> No.21168607

Nazuna Kaga's outfit reveal went to 17.5k I feel the VSPO girls need to learn to tease a bit more. Might have reached 18k

>> No.21168615

>>21168550
>tarot
of course!, it's her special weapon.

>> No.21168617

>>21168550

I still creeped out about her new year Tarot stream. Holy fuck

>> No.21168646

>>21168617
Honestly she just knows a lot about her coworkers and gives advice based on that.

>> No.21168661

>>21168607
They're learning but soon they will have everyone in the palm of their hands. They beat Niji females and are starting to beat holo females. VSPO will be a super power by 2024.

>> No.21168695

>>21168066
The closest thing I've seen was when Korone and Miko were doing promo for their new Kunio-kun 3 Kingdoms game.

>> No.21168699

>>21168661
They need to get EN clips first because you can't beat Hololive unless you have more clips than them.

>> No.21168707
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21168707

The vspo anon and whoever shitpost with it really don't understand that a lot of nijisanji girls are above the vspo girls. You act like all of them are Runa, Ema, Hinano and Nose when it isn't the case. Those are the highest in Vspo and they are still below many girls in Nijisanji.

>> No.21168734

>>21168617
The way these things work of course, is that Mio has spent some time around these girls and so has at least a rough idea of what type of useful advice they could use. Mix that in with tarot draws as basically 'writing prompts', and she can give helpful advice on their circumstances framed as fortune telling while being entertaining to the audience.
Like for Rushia, there's no way she didn't know how much of a goddamn menhera she was and how she acted behind the scenes. Telling her to stay calm and keep a cool head is exactly the sort of advice she needed, but she was incapable of heeding said advice.
You get the idea. It's why she didn't do readings for any of the EN girls, because she really hasn't had time to watch or spend with them most likely, so attempting to to a proper reading would be useless.

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>>21168661
>VSPO will be a super power by 2024
Not happening because Towa is the secret ruler of VSPO.

>> No.21168752

>>21168707
b-b-but the box anon

>> No.21168755

>>21168661
They beat niji females by being behind a lot of niji females. It's hilarious how you act like all of them are doing those big numbers.
I can't wait for the full list of that anon with all jp agencies. You'll see how most of vspo is behind niji females and even their highest are also behind.

>> No.21168759

>>21168707
Got a new chart for this month? Also you're taking his obvious bait too seriously. There's a reason no one seriously replied.

>> No.21168807

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Hp-Tk4oo8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlAfRPxVVFA

Everyone LOVES Smol Ame

>> No.21168831

>>21168707
> If you remove the lower numbers, only the higher numbers are left
Too much baggage in Nijisanji.

>> No.21168865

>>21168734

Yeah I know. But goddamn Mio should reconsider do this once a month or something, she really good at this

>> No.21168898

>>21168707
Using your line of though, you're saying that Vshojo is above Nijisanji girls because Nyanners has higher viewership than Lize and Mito.
Is that right?

>> No.21168901

>>21168865
Naaah, the part that makes these things stand out is that they 'come true' months down the line. That's where the 'magic' comes in and makes people believe. Unless you mean she should rotate who she predicts each month, then sure.

>> No.21168923

>>21166700
>Talk about LGBT stuff and more swearing
...that's it?
Certainly, more people are opening up to LGBT stuff, but it doesn't mean that topic is not controversial. I think politics, religions and LGBT are the topics that should be avoid if possible. Also, Hologirls did quite a lot of yuribaits actually.
As for the swearing, I think it's more of a self restraint thing. Look, I love swearing and I often swear internally, but I also restraint myself from swearing at my workplace or swearing to some acquaintances I barely know.

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>>21168707
You're actually fucking retarded.
You're now claiming that VShojo is way higher than Nijisanji females?
Stop shitposting, anon.

>> No.21169012

>>21166964
So far, 2 of the members of ID3 does seems like only a casual fan. Wish Cover would have hired people who are hardcore fans

>> No.21169055

>>21168898
NTA but Vshojo only has 2 while Nijisanji has like 20 girls above Vspo. im interested in seeing how vspo median is compared to niji and holo this month

>> No.21169057

>>21169012

Kobokan will save ID3, haha.

>> No.21169112

Kinda funny but my friend who is not a vtuber fan just sent me a clip of Ina screaming "Tomorrow!"

That clip is spreading towards more casuals.

>> No.21169149

>>21168707
Is it really a many? Red area is definitely above. Yellow likely as well. But then what about rest? Is 9 really that big number for company like Niji?

>> No.21169156

>>21168923
I hop you aren't insinuating that yutibaiting in any way is comparable to the collective mental illness that is the gay alphabet mafia.

>> No.21169157

>>21169012
> would have hired people who are hardcore fans
If you are easily impressed by your predecessors, then you are not bringing much to the table.

>> No.21169159

>>21169112
that voice crack is really memeable

>> No.21169189

>>21169112
What clip?

>> No.21169196

>>21169055
So?
You're just arbitrarily using magic numbers.
If we take into account all of their members, Vspo and Vshojo easily dominates Nijisanji.
If we consider the top-tier members only, Vshojo is also above Nijisanji.

>> No.21169203

>>21169012
No, you have to be very damn careful with hiring hardcore fans. If they are unable to turn that into a drive to deliver good content with the people they like then they're worse than a casual fan who will just work.

>> No.21169219

>>21169189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMcfFmR0MmA

This one

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>>21167357
Good job!
Keep lying anon!

>> No.21169256

>>21169012
You don't even need that much of a hardcore fan to make great use of the hololive network, but it surely would help if they at least had someone else to praise apart from Mori and Ina with clipshit.

>> No.21169276

>>21169112
Watamage in action again?

>> No.21169301

Looks like pekora is doing a mengen as well

>> No.21169305

Nijisanji program 22k

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Her numbers are kinda low. Why does she not join collabs? Are they bullying her already?

>> No.21169341

>>21169012
Like Kiara said, one Ollie is enough

>> No.21169362

>>21169305
it has kanae, yashiro and sasaki in it, expecting pretty good numbers from this

>> No.21169376

Prediction on Kobo's number?
I think she won't get more than Zeta, maybe 45k

>> No.21169390

>>21169376

45k

>> No.21169403

>>21169362
>Yashikizu and panda
yeah 25k seems apt.

>> No.21169423

>>21167675
Someone please post this thread's schedule to him

>> No.21169424

>>21169376
Around 60k.

>> No.21169447

>>21169012
Are there recruits that actually hardcore fans recently?

>> No.21169455

>>21169376
I would guess on 50k, but it might rise up to 60k if she manages to retain them.

>> No.21169462 [DELETED] 

>>21169424

Niji program 33k. Gold ?

>> No.21169475

>>21168399
Shouldn't you be streaming your oshi's identity cover Irystocarts now? Instead of lowballing others' oshis?
It depends on taste and yours just happen to be in the "not so good" zone.

>> No.21169476

>>21169447
La+ and Fauna comes to mind.

>> No.21169480

>>21169447
YMD and orca I think?
Rio from Uproar also fans of Stars

>> No.21169486 [DELETED] 

Sorry didn't mean to reply

>> No.21169488

>>21169196
anon, only iron mouse, nyanners and veibae are like that. The rest would be middle or below in nijisanji.

>> No.21169510
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>>21169012
yeah... kek

>> No.21169513

>>21169376
50k. She will probably sing so that will help.

>> No.21169515

>>21169488
The median for Nijisanji is around 1k to 2k I believe.
I don't watch Hime, does she get good numbers?

>> No.21169525

>>21169196
How many times do we need to tell you nobody else thinks this way? This box shit was an interesting diversion a week ago, but it means nothing to the top tier nijis' statistics. I'm glad VSPO is inclining. You don't need to add this layer of cope onto it.

>> No.21169530

b2b niji gold
>b2b niji gold
b2b niji gold
>b2b niji gold
b2b niji gold
>b2b niji gold

>> No.21169535

>>21169510
>No Korean
I don't think that's her

>> No.21169555

I wish /#/ posters would stop doing double past mistakes when posting in English

>> No.21169558

>>21169513

If she really is rainych (yeah yeah I know it's impossible), then 80k easily.

>> No.21169564

>>21169219
What the fuck was wrong with her?

>> No.21169582

>>21169376
40k. Overlap with Towa/Aqua/Suisei Apex is gonna hurt.

>> No.21169590

>>21169564
I was telling her that i would go and visit her the next day.

>> No.21169607

>>21169510

can't believe a nijispy got in. sasuga cover!

>> No.21169606
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HAHAHAHHA SUISEI WILL OVERLAP KOBO DEBUT
WON'T BREAK 50K

>> No.21169626

>>21169525
I don't know anon. I think everyone in here agrees that Niji females are in decline. Lize has had a horrible month so far. No doubt their statistics for March is going to be disastrous.

>> No.21169632

>>21169607
To be fair, she got the role of spy, we just didn't know exactly why until now.

>> No.21169647

>>21169626
Fucking hell, just look at Sanbaka 3D anniversary concert last night. Lize model was stuttering like crazy.

>> No.21169649

>>21169606
>relying to jops
Holo foreign fanbase is declining rumao rumao

>> No.21169684

>>21169647
Did they ever acknowledge why that happened? It was just odd seeing that, especially from Nijisanji.

>> No.21169686

>38k for the niji main channel and still inclining
>jp will overlap kobo

holobros, its over...

not looking

>> No.21169689
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A consistent 14k streamer is struggling to even crack at 10k

>> No.21169691

>>21169558
Anon, do you think Japanese or western tourist care whether she is rainych, yes she is semi popular but she isn't some mainstream artist or anything

>> No.21169730

>>21169691
no

>> No.21169741

>>21169606
is it karaoke tho?

>> No.21169757

>>21169741
>APEX
If anything, more people would watch twap and aqua POV than her

>> No.21169773

>>21169686

yeah if this gets 45k+ its niji gold. can't see kobo doing that well

>> No.21169786

>>21169757
ah, rip debut then, hope SEA tuning in for her

>> No.21169787

>>21169219
kek, good stuff. Funny thing is that her voice crack sounded like what Kiara sound all the time, which explains a little of the reason for Kiara to filter a part of the shared Holo audience

>> No.21169792

>>21161163
Now show views and ccv

>> No.21169810
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W/ overlaps.

>> No.21169814

>>21169689
>>21169647
>>21169626
Lize is playing mother, a very well known debuff game. it's a miracle she even gets 8k with it

>> No.21169817

>>21169810
Why are they streaming on the main channel?

>> No.21169819

>>21169810
>female overlaps
anon...

>> No.21169831

>>21169810
>Ponto Nei… ;-(

>> No.21169846

>>21169817
main niji channel is a buff since it captures niji tourists easier, unlike the main holo channel

>> No.21169861

>>21169817
main channel = organized by staff
that's how it goes

>> No.21169872

>>21169475
Nah, she is not my oshi, I just happened to like her Identity
My bad for lowballing others

>> No.21169890

>>21169810

I'll give Ranunculus about another month before they become 3digit chuuba

>> No.21169892

Cocotsuki 1k. Thats more than 3x her regular numbers. Never thought I'd see an Azki buff. Guess if the vsinger channel is small enough

>> No.21169931

>niji sponsor program (youtube gaming crosszone) = 46k+
>holo sponsor program (sin chronicle) = sub 20k
wwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.21169941

>>21169931
yes, we know the holo main channel is a debuff

>> No.21169946

Woah, the small dog mentality is real

>> No.21169983

>>21169931
You won’t find lots of controversy I. This thread with this statement, for two reasons
1) it’s more or less a non controversial consensus that Niji channel is a buff and Holo channel, a debuff
2) Niji highest attended streams are main channel sponsorships (Koshien, for instance)

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>>21169941
>>21169983
Stop replying to bait faggot

>> No.21170013

>>21169946
As it always has been, but i'm actually pleasantly surprised that this thread stayed somewhat civil yesterday when Niji got gold.

>> No.21170041
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21170041

>back to streaming
>sudden 10k spike in subs
Smol Ame is starting to take effect?

>> No.21170049

>>21170013
>NijiJP
>Sanbaka
No wonder

>> No.21170050

yay koyo gets 2 placements today

>> No.21170055

>>21170013
Because it was Sanbaka. Imagine if it was Vox or Mysta instead. Not that it could happen, but just imagine.

>> No.21170056

>>21169931

Nice way to show yourself as a newfag

>> No.21170079

they really knocked it out of the park with HoloX, everyone has nearly 10k ccv right now

>> No.21170085

>>21170055
Vox-Mysta won EN gold, but not only nijikeks overestimated the ccv, the SC is also subpar.

>> No.21170094

>>21170013
Nobody /here/ hate Niji. But NijiEN faggots should all find a chair and hang themselves.

>> No.21170099

>>21170079
but niji got ez 40k rn, bragging about 10k? pfft

>> No.21170136

>21170099

Bait btw

>> No.21170142
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>> No.21170169

>>21170142
>VS
>only managed to pull sub-2k
Chigu...

>> No.21170178

>>21170099
I'm a nijifan lol

>> No.21170211

So what the fuck is this stream on the official niji channel? Just the lever gacha daipan crew + kanae watching souls speedrunners? Why?

>> No.21170223

>>21168399
The numbers seem fine taken into account that her Identity cover was pushed mainly by one fanbase as opposed to two fanbases like usual Identity covers, though

>> No.21170224

>>21170169
I don't even know if VS can be considered a buff game anymore. Poor Chigusa. She tries hard.

>> No.21170260

>>21170041
4/5 myth are inclining right now in subs and status, and we haven’t even gotten to see what full 3D events and activities can come just yet. And Kiara has received numerous praises as of late from fans and talents so it’s a matter of time for her to get some extra attention. Really fantastic stuff from everyone there

>> No.21170265

>>21170211
Some kind of collab/sponsorship program with jp gaming channel

>> No.21170275

>>21170224
>Poor Chigusa
She made her bed, and she will have to lie in it. I have no pity for her.

>> No.21170278

>>21170211
For Niji, the company / group > the individuals. That's why most of their big streams are collabs on their main channels. Hololive is the opposite, which is why most of their top streams are individual events.

>> No.21170317

>>21170211
https://youtube-jp.googleblog.com/2022/03/youtube-gaming-crosszone-2022-minecraft.html

>> No.21170334

>>21170211
They're doing a watchalong of a top jp dark souls speed runner I think.

>> No.21170348

>>21170013
Anon, no one really hates NijiJP. Yes, they tend to be butt of the joke, but they not hated like Luxiem. Also helps that month is secured so the usual baits don't appear.

>> No.21170381

>>21170272
kek

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