/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Mike the cat?

>>21075168
It's fucking MEE
KAY
NOT MIKE

>>21075074
oh no no what the fuck

>>21075074
カツ丼とセックス、バナナと若い女の子が大好きです?

In english, monkey

Alright weeaboos, do your thing and translate it to English so I can use it for shitposting.

>>21075074
translate weeb

>>21075074
Translate it weebs

Here comes the final yab

>>21075352
>>21075405
>>21075408
>>21075316
>>21075299
>>21075251
> "Virtual YouTuber (V Tuber)" that distributes videos using virtual characters on the Internet. Characters that move realistically are easy to get close to, and are becoming more popular as they are used by companies and local governments for PR, but there are also a series of injuries. In some cases, it develops into a trial. (Tatsuro Yasuda)
> "Because it is a single parent, it lacks common sense." It was the summer of 2020 that such a post was posted on the bulletin board on the Internet. When a character made with computer graphics (CG) said he left food at a restaurant, he was severely criticized.
> A V-tuber woman who blows her voice into the character she claims she "she was insulted about herself." In December of the same year, in order to claim damages, a lawsuit was filed in the Tokyo District Court requesting the provider (connector) to disclose the name of the poster.
> The connection company argued that "the subject of the post is a character, not a woman", but the decision in April last year reflected the movement of the woman in the character's gesture, and the content of the distribution was also an event around the woman. Based on that, it was certified that "the character's activities reflect the plaintiff's personality." The post was ordered to be disclosed, saying it was offensive to women. The connection company did not appeal and the decision was finalized.
> There is also a similar proceeding in the district court, which is scheduled to be decided on the 28th. A V-tuber woman who controls a character requests information disclosure of another V-tuber, saying that she posted a video saying "The character bullied her junior". The defendant's connection company is demanding dismissal, saying, "The character and the plaintiff are different. They cannot be identified."
> According to Keisuke Tanaka, a lawyer who represented the woman who won the case last April, these cases have been prominent for about two years and have already been in charge of dozens of cases. Attorney Tanaka says, "For V-Tube, the character is herself. However, it is difficult for the person watching the character to imagine that a living person will be hurt, and there is a tendency for trouble to occur."


> The decision in April last year
> "Character activity reflects the plaintiff's personality"
> The connection company did not appeal and the decision was finalized

>>21075478
So, it's talking about Roa?

>>21075074
Is this about that Niji case?

>>21075725(me)
>>21075478
Shit, I'm really slow at moonrunes and posted before refreshing.

>>21075478
Sounds like Roa.

>it is difficult for the person watching the character to imagine that a living person will be hurt
We call that autism

>>21075478
Thanks weeaboo!

>>21075478
Does this mean that Japan has ruled that chuuba and roommate, for legal purposes, are one and the same? Otherwise this kind of just looks like MSM dragging up an old ass story. Was it a slow week in Japan?

there's nothing wrong with shitposting and spreading rumors about a vtuber

>>21076087
wrong antisan
Your shitposting days are numbered and you'll get what you fucking deserve

>>21076087
Imagine if she used the time and effort to learn Japanese instead.

>>21075478
I didn't know the Roa Meiro thing turned into an actual lawsuit. That's fucking insane.

>>21076043
A court has apparently ruled something similar to that in a previous case. Roa's case will be heard at the same district court in 2 or 3 days.

>>21076043
>Does this mean that Japan has ruled that chuuba and roommate, for legal purposes, are one and the same?
Basically

>>21075478
Wait, so they're saying if an anti harasses a vtuber they're legally also considered harassing the person behind the avatar?

>>21076379
so no more keemstar?

>>21076390
Yeah

>>21076390
If their actions can be considered harassment, then yes

>>21076516
>>21076453
How often does that get enforced, really? For example, vicious gossip websites are pretty common for celebs irl in Japan aren't they?

>>21076313
*makes another new members post*
heh nothing personnel, kid your oshi is a whore kekekekeke

>>21076625
It's more like this is precedent for future lawsuits

>>21075248
Meek ay cat, that's dumb I think Mike anon is right

>>21075074
English kudasai, faggot.

So what I'm basically getting is Narukami's fantasy of getting railed by convicts in prison is unironically one step closer.

>>21076625
It gets enforced when those celebrities want to enforce it by reaching to their legal department, of course. Even anonymous board like this place or 5ch will still comply if the federal body came and threw a warrant on the table. It's just setting up a legal case is hella time and money consuming so unless the allegations are something career breaking most will just not give a shit to it.

>>21075074
Now let all vtuber-related suspects get rendered to Japan, I want nothing more than a doxxnigger genocide

>>21075478
wait so was roa the bully or the victim? i assumed she was guilty because otherwise she'd have come back.

This means a GFE vtuber is legally actually them flirting with me and telling me I'm their boyfriend and that I shouldn't cheat on other women, right?

tl;dr the japanese law agrees, "they're only an actor playing a character"fags are retards

You mean all those death threats I sent are legally actionable?

>>21077621
Yes.

>>21077621
It means she gets alimony when she graduates if you got "married". Nene will be the richest woman alive.

>>21077504
She's a bully. There are plenty bullies in Nijisanji, and the bullying cases are severe enough to warrant lawsuits and resignations.

>>21076625
>According to Keisuke Tanaka, a lawyer who represented the woman who won the case last April, these cases have been prominent for about two years and have already been in charge of dozens of cases.
Translation is kind of wonky there, it says that this lawyer alone handled dozens of cases in the past couple of years.

>>21077504
I can't believe there are people who still think Roa was guilty when even Narukami admitted he was wrong.

>>21077504
Wait for 28th when the judgement is passed.

Please say something nice to my cat. His name is Mike.

>>21077891
>Think Nene's poor enough to get alimony.

>>21077891
Nene will have to pay me alimony.

>>21077504
Niggersanji has tons of bullies, but Roa isn't one. She was initially painted as one before Meiro got exposed as a menhera whore who likes playing victim to destroy the people she targets.

>>21075074
Does this mean shitty companies like Cover and Anycolor are now more responsible to when it comes to antis harassment?

>>21080020
No lol

>>21080020
More like antis are now more responsible for their harassment since the precedent is set, you will get your ass sued if they feel like doing it and there's nothing you can do but accept to lose.

>>21080020
get educated on what happened with roa and meiro since you clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about

I wish the worst painful death to meirofags

>>21077504
She was the bully. She bullied her junior Meiro out because they have similar vocal ticks similar to how Veibae wanted to cancel Shylily out.

>>21080673
So retarded shitters who get caught are out. Good. I expect standards even for antis and trolls.

>>21077504
she may not be a nice person, but she's the one suing in her case

>>21081829
It also sets precedent for forcing companies that run boards like this one to give up the information on who posted what. Likely extends towards VPN companies as well.

>>21082237
lol do you chinese even read the bullshit you are posting

>>21082633
That's exactly what's happening over there. But yeah, not happening here any time soon.

>>21080673
What do they even consider harassment? Is calling rushia a whore worthy of a lawsuit in Japan?

>>21075074
>streamed 1 year ago
please come back Roa

>>21083203
Has to be career damaging probably.
Anycolor tried this with Lulu where they made her stop streaming to build a case that the harassment (stalkers) was hurting her career.

>>21082237
even more reason for me to finally stop coming to this hellhole

>>21083317
So whats the complete deal with the Lulu thing? I didnt follow this.

>>21083510
She wanted to stream and Niji wanted to force her to take breaks

>>21077504
She's both. She overreacted when Meiro pulled the menhera card when she was already in a position to clear her name.

>>21077504
The only ones on Meiro's side at this point are retards pretending or EOP retards that think they have an opinion about anything despite only reading /hlg/ or /vt/ for the past couple of years. She's even got bad history with a certain knight from Holo's roommate so hey, repeat menhera. Anyways, copypasta:

Rundown for another Roa timeloop thread

>Roa is a rare Niji who's faithful to her RP, one she crafted with a friend who's now graduated
>One part of the RP is ending her sentences with "-deyo," which she calls "魔界訛り/devilworld dialect"
>Meiro joins
>Some point after joining, Meiro starts using "-deyo" in her streams despite not doing it in her debut or past life
>Fans notice and start getting on both Meiro's and Roa's cases about it
>This catches Ichikara's attention, and they, knowing that Meiro never used it in her audition, debut, or past life, request that she stop
>Meiro claims that it's just how she talks and requests that they release a statement saying that it's natural
>Ichikara refuses to do it because again, they know that she never used it before and that she's most likely lying, meaning that the statement would be a lie
>Meiro still refuses to stop using it and instead chooses to graduate, sending out the graduation form
>Some senpai Nijis get her to reconsider, and she asks to stop the graduation process
>Ichikara agrees
>Upon coming back, Meiro leaks confidential information related to this ordeal, which is a breach of contract
>Ichikara notices and tells her to take a small break and think about what she has done
>Instead of taking a break, she applies for graduation AGAIN
>And a short while later, she tries to cancel it AGAIN
>However, by this point, Ichikara has had enough of her shit and were reluctant to accept it
>Suddenly, someone clearly on Meiro's side leaks some stuff to Narukami(vkeemstar)
>Meiro is painted as a victim, while Roa is painted as a power-harrassing menhera and Ichikara as a black company
>Roa is cancelled
>Ichikara terminates Meiro immediately, since in their eyes, only she could've leaked it, which is a SERIOUS breach of contract
>Ichikara then puts out a detailed account of the situation from their perspective
>Roa puts out the discord logs that show that, back in summer, she reached out to Meiro to try and have a conversation about it, only to get a single wall of text in response, followed by weeks of ghosting
>With all the information put together, the general opinion starts shifting towards Roa being innocent
>Months later, Meiro('s other identity) releases an ADULT voice drama starring a somewhat familiar-looking agent No. 2535(obvious reference to 2434 — ni ji san ji) of a secret organization called NOA's Ark
>Meiro is now seen as menhera filth and Roa is completely exonerated
>Narucummy is being trashed for being a retard who believed a menhera's narrative and did serious damage to innocent Roa's career and didn't even apologize for it
>also this is not the first time she did this shit. She once did the exact same modus operandi against Canan. Stealing Canan ASMR style and pretending to be victim.
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37736415?from=100

>>21076379
>>21076043
Wait, does this mean that rule 2 should be dismantled because the roommate and chuuba are the same so when talking about the roommate you are talking about the chuuba and thus on topic?

>>21076390
Duh.

>>21083833
No, because 4chan isn't the Japanese government.

>>21084032
yet

>>21083833
No, how is an american site going to come under japanese jurisdiction. you guys are retarded.

>>21083510
She was being stalked. She and AnyKara want to sue the stalkers, AnyKara wanted her to take (long) breaks from streaming to build up damage so that they'd have a better case. On the other hand, she doesn't want to take that many breaks, so she eventually quit.

>>21083752
I'm skeptical about this. If the vocal tic copy was so obviously cut and dried why would people be against Roa? It would be like if Fauna started saying WAH or Guh or Kikerikki constantly. People would tell her to knock it off. Seems like it was more ambiguous like the Shylily/Veibae situation.

>>21083617
>>21084342
Thanks for the qrd.

>>21084210
Where the hell even are our servers now. Is 4chan still physically in America? Can't be JP because Hiroshima Nagasaki has been running from the law there for years now.

>>21084393
ogey

>>21084607
>owner is japanese
>therefore servers are japanese
Man you newfags are fucking retarded

>>21084393
She started saying deyo at the end of sentences instead of the normal dayo. That was Roa's extremely well established trademark speech pattern. Zero ambiguity.

>>21084393
Because at that time the first one to even bring the shitshow onto the table was Narukami, and he painted Meiro as the victim. People are more easily swayed by the first claim in any cases, that's why there's a saying of 'there are always two sides to every story'. It's not until Ichikara made the lengthy posts detailing how the shitshow unfolded and accompanied with evidence that public opinion started swaying to Roa's side.

>>21085808
Shouldn't it have been obvious she was being copied? Why would anyone need a 3rd party to notice it if it was so apparent?

>>21085971
Oh make no mistake, some people DID notice it, but without further public explanation from both of them the reason could be anyone's guesses. It might be maliciously copied, or it might be just because they're that close that Meiro got to use that speech pattern and Roa had no problem with it, or it might even be something else entirely.

>>21085971
NTA. it was obvious, some viewer even send maro about it

>>21075074
and ching chong to you too anon

>>21085971
Did you even read >>21083752?
>Fans notice and start getting on both Meiro's and Roa's cases about it
Meiro's niji career was extremely short lived. It's not as if she got away with it for too long.

>>21083752
never heard the canaan aspect.
Always thought Meiro was sus when she claimed it was her own way of speaking from where she grew up and all the japs went 'huh?'

>>21086312
Lamp Meiji

>a single slight vowel shift
Just sounding it out myself a few times the difference between deyo and dayo is easily obfuscated by trying different accents
seems like autism

>>21083752
wdf how do you even attempt to copy canan without showing your huge assets?

>>21076628
>>21076087
I still love Ara.

>>21086836
I'm sorry to break it to you, but you might be retarded.

>>21086988
Push up bra, padding, and a lot of suspension of disbelief?

>>21087097
>sitting alone repeating dayo deyo dayo deyo dayo deyo dayo deyo dayo deyo dayo to self
def retarded

>>21086836
> she has not earn the right!
It is autism.

>>21075168
>>21075248
Mike is a really fat cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNPV1Fmip5I

>>21077892
Who are these other bullies you speak of?

>>21086836
ikr difference between パコ and ペコ is nothingburger, its just slight vowel shift

>>21087378
Chae Ara

can we still make rrats? this is important

>>21087378
https://streamable.com/dkwjgr

>>21087497
I want オフパコ with ペコ

>>21087541
Wow she sounds like a massive bitch
>>21087601
rumao

>>21086836
It's not about the vowel shift, it's about Meiro pretended to be victim and leaked the false information to Narukami to blame Roa for it

>>21087677
calm your tits moona

>>21086988
a quick search for lamp meiji shows me she was pretty blessed herself

>>21075248
Mike fire(d)!

>>21083752
one day she will come back and I will laugh at them

>>21083752
DONT TRUST ROAFAGS LIES NIJIBRO!!
Meiro did nothing wrong and was bullied out of corpo. She was a girl with so much potential and gain a really good momentum at the time but Roa and her cycle bullied her into graduation

>>21084342

That's mean Lulu Graduated because AnyKara's mismanagement.

And ppl keep saying AnyKara give chuuba more freedom.....

>>21075478
>Attorney Tanaka
lol

>>21084607
4chin and 4chennel are run on 24 and a half mac minis that are about 13 years old now out of moot's mother's basement.
Hiroshimamoot rents that cuck's mother's basement for this purpose as it's too cumbersome to dismantle and move it.
I wish I was only half joking here.
This site is in shambles and is one copper tin whisker away from deleting itself from existence.

>>21089999
Checked

>>21089747
ogey

>>21077504
When an autist and an autist fight, the only evil is God.
>>21083752
>This catches Ichikara's attention, and they, knowing that Meiro never used it in her audition, debut, or past life, request that she stop
This part both neither happened and their intervention was only later, and you should know than to trust Buddha as he's stopped being a legitimate source ever since he got caught getting more views in two hours than Niconico got in visitors that entire day with a Mirei thing. All this ignoring his own leak too where he was literally paid for some Kagayaki Star's hitpiece or whatever the hell it was, it's been a few years. Even Shitrukami has a better track record than him in that regard, and that's really not praise.

What happened her was Roa sent a message about the tic, Meiro interpreted as a threat (the degree of which no one can truly ever know because the edits could have been seconds after or minutes after and can completely change the context, don't think they were timestamped) of the absolute highest degree and got spooked. Management explicitly did not step in until she started going nuclear and discussing graduation, and Roa was going nuclear because at the absolute least she wasn't intending to get someone booted out and was either just throwing her weight around (like a retard) or walking on way too many eggshells (which in this case is the same as the former so like an autistic retard). After a bit they both cooled their heads with management intervening, but they continued to intervene which caused Meiro's stomach ulcer to explode like Roa was doing a racist Goldfish Cowboy impression leading to her going for the second graduation notice followed by public leakage, and at that point Ichikara just threw up their hands and gave up before cutting her off and Roa going way too deep into her hole due to getting slapped like her father never did and basically soft-retiring and lawyering up, like an autist. And like I said earlier in the post, when two autists fight there's no true evil; just autism.

>>21089726
Based Roa bro.
Fuck Meiro, she will get what she deserves. Evil vile person that she is.

>>21089999
Companies only give freedom when it’s beneficial. A lawsuit isn’t a time when it is and it cost them one of the best streamers they had.

>>21089999
Only if you genuinely believe the lulu rrat. Anykara's had way more management fuckups when it came to promoting people too much than they have with whatever bullshit anons have been repeating about lulu for the past two years.

>>21089999
>give freedom
>why won't they protect their talents, black company REEEEEE

>restrict freedom until shit get resolved for safety/law regulation reasons
>why didn't they let their chuubas do what they wanted, black company attitude REEEEEE

You really like to spin the story around and around to fit your narrative isn't it

>>21092137
Not to blame AnyKara too much, but they could've just let her stream as she wished while pursuing legal actions at the same time. Depends on whether you think "getting a better case" (in court) was a justifiable reason for them to tell her not to stream (even though she wanted to)

>>21092276
>but they could've just let her stream as she wished while pursuing legal actions at the same time
That's not how it works

>>21092276
There is still not a single shred of proof that "Ichikara actively stopped Lulu from streaming to pursue legal actions which upset her enough to retire".

>>21076043
Anybody with an ounce of legal knowledge could have told you this is how a court will rule things out in the vast majority of countries. I can't even believe they attempted the "The character and the person are not the same" defense

>>21083833
No, because legality and social customs are two different areas. The reason information about a chuuba's soul is discouraged from discussion is because it's irrelevant to the VTuber persona presented to us on screen. Everything behind the screen is stuff you don't need to know.

>>21092445
It's a game of telephone from people hearing Lulu say she went to the police and they said nothing could be done, and people who genuinely believe she was so addicted to streaming the only possible way she'd stop even temporarily is due to unforeseen circumstances or being forced, forgetting the fact that getting stuff like that is unforeseen circumstances and Mirei had already existed and gotten way worse flames since even before Lulu debuted.

>>21092445
True bit it's a reasonable assumption if you consider she went back to do the exact same shit she was doing under Anykara and herself stated she hated halting her activities do deal with antis

>>21092649
>people who genuinely believe she was so addicted to streaming
>he doesn't know

>>21092774
It's a reasonable assumption if the only person you've ever followed was Lulu. There's livers who've changed their houses or train routes due to this kinda stuff and streamed right through it.

>>21091487
Meiro is a parasite and got what she deserved, simple as. It's a cut-and-dry case of "woman pretending to be victim".

>>21093215
>discussion is about Lulu
>Lulu case doesn't count, consider not-Lulu examples
This place really need an IQ test before people are allowed to pist

>>21092611
If it isn't relevant how is it fair to police negativity about them as if it were directed at a rral person. That's a very one-sided approach. If the chuuba acts like a whore on-screen, I call them a whore, I can get sued, but it's also looked down upon to say that she isn't a whore irl because that's irrelevant to what's going on on the screen. There's a lot of bizarre hoops to jump through

>>21093522
>company that has a history of slightly pressuring it's people to stream more even when they don't really want to
>instead has a history of massively pressuring people who want to stream more to not stream
At least we can both agree that an IQ test is needed, you retard.

>>21093522
>There's livers who've changed their houses or train routes due to this kinda stuff and streamed right through it.
You can read full sentences anon, I believe in you. You can also understand the implication of how threats through letters and maros aren't nearly as severe as the various incidents others with a much bigger spotlight on them have gone through, can't you?
Maybe you should try learning some critical thinking skills instead of bending over backwards to debate a rrat.

>>21084607
>Hiroshima Nagasaki has been running from the law there for years now.
The fuck did he do

>>21093943
You're the one who's bending backwards to defend your rrat you buffoon.
>
You can also understand the implication of how threats through letters and maros aren't nearly as severe as the various incidents others with a much bigger spotlight on them have gone through, can't you?
This is just your opinion. Anykara/Lulu deemed it bad enough to have the police involved and Anykara told her to stop her streaming activities. This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

>>21087601
lolling