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>>21049732
It’s over anon... too much has been revealed. Now everyone knows she isn’t really a duck and actually looks exactly like Subaru.
The duck dynasty is over, how can anyone love her now...

>>21053472
Ah yes, the potentially-damaging incident that instead just makes me love her even more. What a great time.

>>21053575
> the potentially-damaging incident that instead just makes me love her even more
Been a wild year, first La+ Had one of those and now Shuba.

>>21053575
>>21053819
Wait a second actually, wasn’t the La+ one due to Subaru as well? This duck has the magic touch.
Nene better look out, duck is going to steal her reputation.

Oh god. What's happened now? I look away from this board for 2s and some shit has gone down in the recently suspiciously absent duck thread.
Or are you fegs just maymaying?

>>21054282
Disregard yabs. Imagine passionate, standing lovemaking with a tall, tall duck.

>>21054282

>>21054282 this place was supposed to be combined into OKFAMS but some guy keeps bringing this place back

This place gonna disappear soon

>>21054282
What kind of lies did the doxx reveal?

>>21057763
Subaru was an idol before

>>21053472
I've made the full switch to a ducksexual. im dunzo bro

>>21057842
So all that able being a completely inexperienced normie was a lie?

>>21055185
I don’t want it combined, that is far too many in one.

>>21053472
I'm just surprised her 3D tracking didn't have any issues. Or maybe there were and I just never noticed the discrepancies.

>>21057763
She's been playing Sausage Legend for her entire life

>>21059524
No wonder she commented on her mannequin at fes3.

>>21053472
You had a good run shubaduck. But you're also stupid. So it was bond to happen.
I wonder how she actually feels about this.

>>21053472
>implying the recent events didn't make my love for her even stronger
the duck giveth and the duck taketh away

>>21059917
I am just shocked it took this long.

>>21060132
The saddest part for me:
>all the vids of ducks labeled as Subaru doxx are going to be muscled out by real Subaru doxx now.

>>21059917
It was pretty interesting how she got it going for so long

>>21059917
My question is do any Holomems actually try to comfort her if she is upset? Most of them enjoy being whores online and want attention drawn to their other profiles.

>>21061386
She isn’t a menhera, she’ll be fine.

rip duck

>>21058467
It is better to just understand it as Subaru the person doesn't want to talk about her past experiences since there's no way to say "Yeah, I was an idol before!" since Subaru the character wasn't an idol before.

>>21057842
Name of the group ?

>>21053472
Did her picture get leaked or something?

>>21066308
>Says on stream she has membered Okayu on her personal account
>Stalker autists go find her using Okayu's member notifications
>Her personal account has her real name in it
>Stalker autists doxx her easily

>>21066308
not just picture but everything.

>>21049854
me in the middle

>>21066533
>Stalker autists go find her using Okayu's member notifications
It wasn't anything special, it was live on a collab stream with Okayu and was the only member message to appear.

>>21067618
Yeah this is why it's so funny. I still can't believe she did that.
And also the people that looked into it and used that to actually doxx her are still autistic stalkers

>>21067804
Well she did something similar just earlier this year when she doxx'd La+'s IP address on stream, that's how people found out La+ was posting about La+ anonymously on 5ch. Subaru's been getting sloppy.

>>21067804
>just live in ignorance bro
there is literally nothing wrong about looking up one's oshi

>>21058467
Yes. I don't really care, it was for a good reason, like miko hiding that she had a younger brother and sister, but it being so critical to her story, unlike miko's siblings, does put into question everything else about her past. Like her house never burned down, and she doesn't have a hole in her heart or whatever ludicrous story that was. (unless someone has independent verification). That was all flavor text, and she was actually a huge catch for Cover at the time.

>>21058467
I don't think the not being an otaku thing was a lie? maybe they found something out but idk

>>21068990

Basically her protagonist pass is revoked.

>>21068990
yeah the whole "I had never done anything at all like this I was completely inexperienced and just got in on PASSION!" being fabricated takes some of the fun out of the backstory. It doesn't really matter but when you tell stories about yourself and present them as true when it's just bullshit it kinda ruins the mood and brings into question all the other stories. We'd already had other members saying subaru embellished stories and she just put that on her memory but finding out her backstory she presented as fact is just bs well whatever. still funny as hell just in most ways but just a little less fun knowing that's not true.

>>21068056
Is this yab true?

>>21069313
it does make me curious abotu how miko got into hololive in fact, whether its true Yagoo himself approached her. We know she wasn't anyone big or anything, an experienced nnd streamer, but not a big one who went through various small roles. Doesn't really see why Migo in particular would be scouted by Yagoo for a Kizuna Ai role unlike others... her voice?

Thankfully much of the connection with her involves her time in Cover, and not her pre-cover past, so its independently verifiable. Even if all the stories about being in a girls school or ojiisan stalking at a young age are false, it wouldn't change the impression.

>>21069749
>Is this yab true?
100% but La+'s posts were actually pretty cute so everyone liked her more.
Mostly stuff like saying that La+ doesn't favor her PL over hololive and that she thinks La+ would stream more if she wasn't having throat problems and posts saying she hopes La+ gets well soon so she can stream again. All anonymously of course, but since Subaru had revealed La+'s IP on stream and 5ch shows IP's people found the posts.
La+ even at one point corrected people when they were talking about her roommate's age (they thought it was higher, even though La+ was pretty clear when indicating about what it was on stream) though the post was ignored.

>>21070015
Jesus my heart

My favorite part after poking around was that she used to joke about her dying Goku impression


and she once did some VA work for a boobie mobage

>>21070073
Yeah, basically the anti-Sio.
There was even a post she made replying to someone that was saying they were unsatisfied with La+ to the extent the poster was considering dropping her as oshi.
She replied encouraging him to send the tweet to La+ to let her know.

I've lost all interest in Subaru since she doxxed herself in the most retarded way I've ever seen. It's not even about seeing her face, it's just the realization that Subaru is actually very VERY dumb ruined her for me.

>>21071140
thats what we are into

>>21070015
>Mostly stuff like saying that La+ doesn't favor her PL over hololive
If I recall it also turned out that she did a stream like ten minutes after responding to that.

The biggest surprise is that it wasn't just a dummy account.

>>21071411
It was a dummy account all right

Please keep your oshi away from my oshi in the future. She does a good job hiding her identity and I don't want the duck ruining it for her.

>>21071594
gottem

>>21068056
Or maybe it's intentional

>>21071370
No that was a different one.
Someone said they thought La+ was going to quit streaming on twitch too.
La+ anonymous replied that it had only been 2 days so saying La+ had quit was pretty harsh.
10 minutes after the post La+ started streaming on twitch.

>>21071594
kek

>>21071140
That's the best part.

>>21058467
People keep saying it was but they don't actually use any evidence to justify it. They haven't disproved what she said, just their own headcanon they had about her.

>>21071866
>Rule 2.
You can check the usual sites though.

Guys, duck is on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryI4LbqWKTM

nice doxx thread subatomos

>>21071958
>implying anyone here even watched her before hand

>>21071958
It was an accident.

>>21071902
Again, the evidence does not justify anything. Being an ex-idol and having tragic shit happen or being a normie, all of these are not mutually exclusive.

>>21071938
>Free talk
Aww yeah, that's honestly my favorite Subaru content. Her Zatsu are so good and it is very nice she puts English information for each one.

>>21071902
I already checked them yesterday, they don't disprove anything. She was just a total nobody in an unrelated industry. People are claiming she was an idol, which is not only beyond retarded (everyone would have known her identity in that case), it has nothing to do with the claimed evidence. None of the evidence has anything to do with medical conditions, knowledge of streaming or history as a gamer or not having a house burn down.

All it did was reveal she's old, which actually lends more credibility to some of those claims, not less.

>>21072102
Let's not fight and argue in the nice duck thread, she's live!

I will duck this this fuck

>>21069313
Omitting things for privacy reasons or having an obviously fake character backstory is one thing, but it rubs me the wrong way to completely make up details about your real life backstory. It would be like finding out Kanata made up the stuff about her hearing loss or something.

>>21072307
https://youtu.be/QMQwmt0oyto

>>21072452
It does bring everything else into question, as other anon said

>>21066308
yes, but she's entirely clean and yab-free

move along

>>21071958
>doxx

>>21072219
>All it did was reveal she's old
H-hag duck?

>>21072452
>but it rubs me the wrong way to completely make up details about your real life backstory
She didn't make anything up, at worst she lied by omission for opsec reasons (but made a hilarious lapse in judgement)

>>21072621
Close but still only cake
Let's just says she shouldn't be making fun of Marine

>>21072731
>cake
many such cases

>>21072219
>People are claiming she was an idol, which is not only beyond retarded (everyone would have known her identity in that case), it has nothing to do with the claimed evidence. None of the evidence has anything to do with medical conditions, knowledge of streaming or history as a gamer or not having a house burn down.
That's my take from all this.
Attributing "idol" to this isn't correct.
>All it did was reveal she's old
Not even desu.
Shion/Haato are still the youngest, dunno about all the newer girls.
Not like anyone believed her "17.whatever" age anyway.

>>21071938
Subaru is talking about her house having burnt down on stream again.

>>21072824
What on Earth do you think an idol is? Where did you get the idea she is an idol? An idol is not just any female who has ever been filmed.

>>21073033
i came in mid way, is she maintaining that her house burned down, not just had a fire?

If she is then I will believe.

>>21073051
That's what he was saying dummy.

>>21073109
Oh fuck, my bad. I thought he said is correct.

>>21073051
I'd suggest English lessons for you.
Mongoloid.

>>21073104
Yes. She is saying it burned down and so she was taking part time jobs to make more money. Stuff we've heard before pretty much.

>>21073240
Hey anon, are you the guy that was shocked by Irys having ranted about gypsies with "venom" in her tone?

>>21073104
Very much so

>>21073264
Well if there is nothing to contradict it then i will choose to believe Subaru. Could very well be the various stuff we see about what she's done are part time jobs

>>21073313
wait wait based alert?

>>21073104
>>21073359
The only reason her story ever seemed unbelievable is when you assume she's in her early 20's rather than her 30's. Because it contracts the time a lot.

>>21073405
Irys fucking hates gypsies, it was absolutely hilarious. She's not even European so it must just be something she picked up in media that she's supposed to hate them and she was completely oblivious to the fact that it's a controversial topic.

>>21072824
>Shion/Haato are still the youngest, dunno about all the newer girls.
Laplus and Chloe come close

Is this a subtle response to the yab?

>>21073639
It would be too coincidental for it not to be.

>>21053472
>could literally be a kronii tier chuuba with her real voice and height
>be a duck instead
I'm not mad, but imagine the possibilities anon

>>21073639
That was impression. Would be an odd time to start reiterating things she's already said about her personal life otherwise.

>>21073709
>>21073813
I love my mentally stable oshi

>>21073708
She could be a shit chuuba who no one watches, is too lazy to stream, and sounds like a fake bitch?

I only get the impression that this person tried a whole slew of shit in the year before holo. Whether that's because of the house thing or not I don't know. There's no direct evidence either way.
It's just Subaru being Subaru: She's already known for exaggeration among her coworkers; now it's apparent that the converse is also true in that she's understated (some) things too. How mad you want to be about this and whether or not you can't enjoy her current self and current content is up to you.
Regardless of crap that's been dredged up: you've seen the undeniable improvement in her singing voice, the results of her dancing etc., her confidence as a live streamer.
I'm not mad just because she didn't start from literally 0 in say, singing or whatever. Very few people do. Maybe Botan though, I'd buy that.
I wonder though how much of this all plays into her dissatisfaction with and reluctance to keep archived her utawaku until literally this year.

>>21073639
I think so. She ended the stream shortly afterward as well.

>>21069822
you must remember back then Cover/Hololive were basically nobodies
Miko certainly has a unique voice because of her speech impediment, I guess Yagoo figured that would make her stand out or something
it was a failure, not even of her own fault, she reached success when they let her do her own thing in Hololive in the end
It is really interesting to think about though, if you were scouting for talent for a project like that, what would you go for and who would accept it? Maybe Miko was as good as they had the clout to get, or Yagoo just stumbles into success

This yab reaffirms her and Suisei as the real protagonists

>>21073708
Makes it weird to have seen the mannequin for subaru at Holofes3.
But Japs are super short so she's probably only 5'5'' or something at most and just looked tall next to others.

>>21071997

>>21074142
>This yab reaffirms her and Suisei as the real protagonists
They're all protagonists.
Recall that migo admitted that she would've left if Shuba and (I forget who) convinced her to stay.

subaru looks like an asian auntie...

>>21073708
>could literally be a kronii tier chuuba with her real voice and height
So she could be much worse? I agree.

Subaru put a no clipping notice on the part where she talked about her past. So I will keep it short. She only decided to talk about it because she got a lot of questions about it.

Basically her house burned down and her family was kind of depressed for a while. She decided to try a lot of part time jobs to make money. After trying many thing she applied to Hololive but she didn't get a response. So she called back asking persistently to let her in and they did.

>>21074353
>This mean Noel is into hags
based if true

>>21074353
god that makes me so fucking hard

>>21074230
It was Shuba and Miosha

>>21074532
Sports announcer with bad pronunciation duck....

>>21074353
She's literally perfect

her voice is fake, how sad :(

>>21074532
That sounds totally believable except I think what bothers people is the framing, it makes it sound like her application to Hololive was because her house burned down. Thus finding out she wasn't a soot-covered street urchin asking for a job destroys their image of her. What would make it more believable is if her house burning down is why she became the sort of person who would take whatever jobs she could get and after what may have been years of this, one of those happened to be Hololive, something she was totally unqualified for but came to excel at. That I could easily believe.

>>21074884
Really? I thought the opposite. I always thought it was fake but then it seems it isn't.

>>21074353
Looks like any average JP girl desu senpai, which is what she is.
I'm not even sure about the height thing since there's only one frame of reference and that's not definitive.

>>21074900
I don't think you're too far off from what she was explaining. She said she tried many things for a long time after the fire. And it was only because of the fire that she decided to try out many jobs. She even mentioned that one of her friends showed her what some "gamer granny" was doing online and she thought doing something like that might be good thing to try.

>>21066533
So is everyone in Hololive just fucking up basic opsec in 2022?

>>21074884
Uh, how long have you watched her?
The duck voice is like kiara's chicken voice, gura's shark, marine's sexy or any of these girls' performance voices.
It's an exaggerated form of their actual voice.
Watch Subaru's earliest streams for a fake voice; I don't like watching those streams because the voice is honestly so put on and forced it's annoying. She sounds more real now after having abandoned that fake shit.
If you listen to her on offcollabs you hear her real voice.

>>21075291
women being women

>>21075291
Success and feeling secure in one's position breeds complacency in general. However In this case since this happened right after fes I'd imagine it's because they've all let loose a little after months of tension.
That's when mistakes happen.

...I just hope the Japanese side of things is as okay with this the same way this side of the pond is with it.

God...

>>21075855
I'd assume they are more level-headed about it but since she is famous for constantly looking into what everyone is saying about her, it's possible she could exaggerate whatever they say in her own mind.

>>21075855
It's not like she's being cummed inside on a daily basis while selling engagement rings

>>21076032
Yeah, me.

>>21078091
I made this post

>>21078173
dang I must be doing a lot more samefagging than usual.

>>21078240
Fuck's sake. I need to reconsider taking those meds again.

So she got herself exposed because she wanted to see Okayu porn?

>>21074884

its not much different from her real voice, wdym

>>21079422
Isn't wanting to see Okayu porn pretty normal?

Trying to comprehend why any halfway mentally stable ahijo would be disillusioned with Subaru from this yab. She is pretty much the vtuber IRL minus a some tidbits.

>>21079422
Hear Okayu porn, but yeah pretty much.
It's all that fatto catto's fault. If she was less sexy none of this would have happened.

>>21080554
Punish the cat

>>21054871
I-.... I wanna lick Subaru's pits.............

>>21054871
>tall, tall duck.
I guess she really was a swan.

>>21072219
>All it did was reveal she's old
>Subaru is a hag
SSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>21049854
>want to watch hololive on yt
>follow hololive and other chuuba content
>first thing I see is SUBARU'S REAL FACE REVEALED!!!!! PLEASE CLICK MY VIDEO

Why are you fucks like this

>>21082329
It's too late, it's already happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgEV_dJmKsY

>>21082022
Sorry, you'll need to actually wait a little bit longer for that.

>>21070015
...that's...fucking adorable.

Duck pros, why is her footage so muddy? What kind of capture setup is she using? Anyone know?

>>21086189
The PSP makes it real simple to output audiovideo but it’s still going to be in it’s piss poor resolution. You know sure as shit she’s not going to be emulating and upscaling.

>>21086895
What, Cover can't payroll some handheld capture units/mods?

Even Let's Players from before that shit made money could get better video quality than this

>>21054871
There's no definitive proof that she's super tall. I mean, people can stand on boxes or everyone else might be really short.

>>21087614
This is Japan we’re talking about here, please understand.

>>21082022
An actual age is known? didn't think so.

>>21049854
You know what amuses me about this? Supposedly the mace went up her arse, but from the angle and position it looks more like it went up her cunt.

>>21086189
She's using some old ass VGA cable thats specifically for the PSP that connects to TV's and I'm assuming shes using some capture card that captures VGA or some shit.

>>21088453
That's why it's funny.
Every non-virgin immediately noticed this hence why it seemed way more yibyobyabby than what they no doubt initially intended.

>>21086189
I think it's Aki's personal setup that she's using.

>>21072452
Yeah this is the one thing that really chafes a bit. Like, other than that, she seems pretty genuine still... just makes me wonder how much was pity points.

Same opinion on Kanata too, though if THAT is a lie I'm gonna lose a lot more faith.

>>21091137 (me)
Reiterating on the first point, the whole method this came to light just reinforces Subaru being Subaru in terms of personality. Unless this is a 5head scheme to drop RM info... which it's not. (It's peak bird brain). This reinforces the main reason I like her.

Just... the whole Getting in via passion thing was kinda a big part of my initial impression (further exemplified by her "hololive interview" stream where she asked HR if she would get into Hololive nowadays). Also, her reasoning for the new girly outfit was that it was hiw she used to dress before the fire and all that...

Heck, isn't the reason her oshi mark is an ambulance because of stories of accidents and stuff? If its all fake... Nothing to do but cope and live with it, just enjoy her for her personality. I guess I was more invested in Subaru than I thought.

>>21091542
HAHAHA HOLY FUCK

>>21075291
Not just Hololive

>>21091542
The ambulance is because of this.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1032582809821433856

>>21091542
This is why doxxing sucks for the vtubing indstry. This place seems to get it, but a lot of places on the internet don't. The whole point of vtubing is the idol illusion.
People want something to believe in, someone cute or cool or inspiring that they can be entertained by. It's similar to reading a book, where you know it's all the authors delusion, but it can still be impactful.
For vtubing, the idol image is part of the value, and every time that gets eroded away and replaced with the real life 3D Oz behind the curtain, it detracts from the belief and beauty of the entire enterprise.
It's like if you were watching a TV show, and at random intervals the actors turned to the camera and started spouting off personal facts about themselves

>>21091542
Did the Doxx unconfirmed those stories? afaik it just showed that she has more experience in the Idol thing but not necessarily that all her past stories are fake, or theres more info that i don't know

>>21079647
If the tidbits are her entire backstory including details about personal tragedy, then I would argue that those are a pretty big deal

>>21092337
there's no exposed information regarding any of that stuff

>>21092200
Vtuber =/= idol, retard.

>>21079647
There's not one Subatomo in this thread besides me. Everyone else are just dramawhores who wouldn't give her a time of day any other time.

the subaru rrats are spreading already, when this information get in the hands of a dramafag is over, brace for impact guys

>>21081582
Sex

Do we have any source where subaru says she is a complete newbie? Saw some subatomo says she never really claimed that and the most she ever said was she was inexperienced and she was from another circle which is true from her dox info and honestly her debut sucks and reeks of someone new. The same applies to her anime knowledge history. Feels like another case of translated clips leading people to construct the wrong image of her.

>>21093715
>its over
This is a literal nothingburger that would only bother autists that are super pedantic about some specific things.

>>21071140
>female
>dumb
Somebody call the news

>>21098509
funny how everything is always a nothingburguer for you retards until it isn't, stop using that dumb word already

>>21054871
Listen, if you now tell me she's able to snu snu me to death that's even better.
I already love me duck. She got way better in her job in the course of her career. I care zero about any yabs or dox because nothing changes that I cam to like her for who she is.

>>21082329

>>21100406
But this literally is a nothingburger. She did nothing that can get her in trouble. Only dramafags are YEARNING for something to happen and thats why they should ritually off themselves by mutual beheading using a wooden cooking spoon.

Watched OhaSuba and I'm just gonna trust in the duck.

>>21070015
I didn't think I could love this brat anymore than I already do...

>>21075987
Tourist here. Similar to here, it was a minor yab and some people were put off by the suspicion that the tragic bits of her past being made up, specially the fire, the normalfag background and her age, but out of those only the age was really proven, so if Subaru doesn't do anything stupid it's probably smooth sailing for her from here on.

>>21075291
The average person is stupid, and none of the Holomems are particularly smart. I mean, knowing what a logarithm is makes you tensai by their standards

>>21110953
I mean the age thing for almost all Vtubers has always been part of the character, not the person behind it. Even of the "realistic" ages, nobody expects Matsuri to be 16, Senchou 17, Fbk 18 etc. I always assumed Subaru was early twenties when she began, but apparently it was more like mid twenties. No real surprises.

yagoo has weird taste in woman

For the resident Subatomo, do you want the thread to stay alive for the time being?

>>21083179
is she older than Marine?

>>21119499
No

>>21119499
Yes!
Love duck.

>>21073510
>it's a controversial topic.
It's not controversial. Literally everyone hates those fuckers.

>>21121596
People that don't have any first hand experience with them (that is to say, most americans) don't. Hatred needs to be learned and most learn by experience.

>>21069313
The dox doesn't exactly tell us a whole lot about her past life, though? The youtube channel was made in 2017, the first video dates to five months pre-debut, which points heavily towards the videos basically being her streaming/internet crash course.

We got a name off of the associated Twitter account, but its activities date to no earlier than 2017, too.

Meaning that there's no evidence of any activities preceding June 2017, circa 1 1/4 year pre-debut.

That's not exactly a showbiz professional deciding to sign up with some internet startup doing weird things with Live 2D just because she can. That's a girl interested in entertainment experimenting a little bit, and then stumbling into Hololive over the course of her experimenting.

I mean, I'm pretty sure nobody believed that she cared NOTHING about that kind of entertainment, given that she wouldn't have found Hololive in the first place if that was the case. Just inexperienced. And that's essentially confirmed by the dox.

It's always possible that a streamer makes something up (Fubuki and her 'First Time' drinking alcohol...), but the dox doesn't actually touch anything Subaru has said about her past live except maybe embellishing a little how little she knew about the internet. But to be honest, if 'Posting selfies on twitter' is now 'Internet experience', we're setting a pretty low bar.

>>21075249
>She even mentioned that one of her friends showed her what some "gamer granny" was doing online
... Subaru became a vtuber because she watched Korone's past life?

I remember back in the Coco days, people were talking about how Subaru and a few other girls were a member of the "in group" clique at hololive, while girls like Coco were on the outs. Thus she gets favorable treatment by management and all sorts of advantages, while girls like Coco were treated like dogshit.

>>21073930
>And other things I tell myself
Subaru loves her. Deal with it.

>>21125208
Subaru is just yagoo's oshi, it isn't her fault.

>>21053472
I STILL LOVE HER

>>21131939
I'll try to as well I guess but...

So are we all in agreement to report Hololive Researcher then?

>>21125048
No, specifically this channel
https://youtube.com/channel/UCTMgd9qnUD9qKBX5oTtD6ug

>>21074884
You could hear her real voice in collabs if she got too focused on what she was doing over being in a collab

>>21049732
Duck