/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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SAY NO TO RECYCLE!!!
>use this one
>>21089055
>>21089055
>>21089055

Yesterday's superchats

tjhat manga is rly good

let it die retard

>>21097690
still not using this shitty thread fuck off

This one?

>>21099321
This one.

>>21094002
name?

Previous thread: >>21099284

the last ID3

>>21108894
>Half the CCV of Zeta.
That's gotta sting.

>Vox and Mysta already 22k only 11' in
Kneel to the kings of EN

>>21111580
>Kneel to the kings of CN and SEA
fixed

25k for off collab ASMR

>>21112033
and some nijikeks dare to claim this would go above 30k

NIJISANJI DOMINATION
GET FUCKED HOLOKEKS

>>21112116
>Theyre about to eat.
If CN women are into eating ASMR it might get to 30k

>>21112224
>It going to be one of those nights

>>21112342
Imagine having to resort to supporting male prostitute for your tribe to get higher numbers.

>>21112264
>Two males on screen
>ASMR mic
>Soft slurping and sucking sounds

>>21112749
hope other vtubers males don't follow their example.

Supa train

>>21112913
A twitch male, Shxto, inclined from following Luxiem, he's now the most popular non-covert male indie

>>21112972
Definitely top 5 in Superchats for the day

When he gonna do a amsr masturbating himself to get banned then

>>21113297
>ASMR cock-sucking

>>21113201
Can we make a list on things that NijiEN copies from HoloEN?
>smol ame VR
>makes a chibi VR

>kanauru MV
>makes a kanauru MV too

>off collab with other members
>does an off collab too

>HoloEN makes an MC server
>NijiEN does it too

>>21113297
This stream could do it

>>21112033
Mansanji... I kneel
We need more asmr girls in HoloEn. Fauna is not enough.

>>21113342
I think Vshojo is more blatant about it to the point that they react to Hololive clips.

>>21113342
StarsEN simulated yaoi-ASMR is coming

>>21113342
Stop it, don't be like that one niji faggot.

>>21113371
Fauna's ccv for her asmr may be low but her vods are surprisingly great

2 white male kissing and licking each other hand on stream and got 25k chinks to watch them. Holy fuck I want to kms. If the EN homostar do this kind of shit in the future I'll straight up become an anti

>>21113371
Fauna wanted to do an ASMR stream during their off-collab but the other girls didn't want to stream.

>>21113023
You sound like the NijiJP fans coping back in late 2019 early 2020 saying that HoloJP numbers shouldn't count when they started inclining majorly because they are pandering to westerns while NijiJP was almost entirely Japanese.

>>21113435
>2 White males
>He doesn't know

>>21113435
Is this true? Are they really kissing?

>>21113431
yeah, it's pretty great sleep aid.
I must've listened to those like a hundred time already

>>21113431
Why the fuck would you want to watch ASMR live, the point of watching it is to relax/get horny and the timing won't always work if you're not a neet

>>21113466

Yes.Oh fuck.

>>21113342
Well not just them, all vtubers pretty much copy holo style of vtubing.

>>21113460
This isn't the first time you brought this up and its incredibly dumb every time you do.

>>21113435
They kissed? that's fucking hilarious I'm not going to shame because some holos already did the same but this is really fujo heaven

>>21113525
>literally gay for pay
They are going to get cancelled on twitter

>>21113464
>he will learn soon enough

We're finally using this one after 12 hours huh?

>>21113575
They won't care, their fans are not in twitter

>>21113460
great post changette, im sure you were there by then

>>21113605
RIP our PPM

/#/ would be one of the top threads on the board if people weren't insistent on using 12 hour threads.

>>21113061
>non-covert
But he is convert

>>21113498
They tried holo style and failed, a lot of indies are going the vshojo route.
Also the indie scene is a wasteland of drama, go figure.

>>21113575
Nope, it upsets the 'right' people, twitter will support this hard. Now, if Vox starts flaunting his money, then jealous vtweeters will raise a stink

>>21113342
>chibi VR
Nijis flaunt their freedom, but they can't even go full body VR
>Kanauru
He's a unityfag, so he's open to anyone.
>off-collab
Technically, millie or enna did it first
>MC server
This is the only that's straight up copying. They could just make a new land/country in their world server. No reason for another server. It pays to have a server, and teleporting to another server is more work than going on a train cart or elytra to the EN country. Granted maybe they wanted to experience new things, but literally all the stuff that was made on the server was for the talents use, just build something for content. Do they want to create a family setting too like HoloJP in their EN minecraft server or that story arc where Myth beats the ender dragon? That's overkill using 20 people, no storyline at all.

Kuzuha's viewership declined when the two fags started streaming.

>>21113719
>off-collab
pre-Ethyria doesn't count faggot

>>21113673
Sorry, I thought that account was fresh. Kenji still holds the title

>>21113733
I guess we can estimate how many of his fans are desperate fujos now.

>>21113015
i was talking about the tournament retard
if he's pred they should be out as they exceede the legal amount of points

>>21113435
Kissed? or just kissing sound because that's two different things doing it for baiting hornyfags or just straight up gays

>>21113575
Isn't there a report system for this? Just report for sexual suggestive asmr and timestamp it. I'll help you on it.

>>21113514
First time I've mentioned it in this thread personally. It just struck me suddenly that I'd seen the exact same numbers doesn't count because they come from country x shit somewhere else before then I remembered.

>>21113635
Indeed I was.

>>21113733
>There is no overlap they said
>They aren't stealing from NijiJP they said

>>21113788
kissing sounds

>>21113525

But did you see their face irl ? 1 looks like a fat Filipino (mysta), and the other one (vox) looks like a wimp with a beard. I don't want to imagine...

>>21113806
>not even 3k drop
stop doomposting faggot

>>21113435
>mysta
>white

>>21111299
>Blue woman
She's gonna do well. May the spirit of her blue senpais guide her

>>21113733
Good thing kuzuha and kanae got male fans.

>>21113015
>>21113782
merise=neoporte did hold applicantions as well

>>21113874

Sorry I typed too fast

>>21113733
Yaoi baiting is too strong

>>21113659
This is the main thing that bugs me about the fuckers making early threads, we're the numberfag thread yet we're reclining in the rankings because of an issue that could be easily fixed, global, /nijien/, Mori gen and /ggg/ all wait until the thread dies and keep beating us

>>21113719
>making a minecraft server is copying
That's the most retarded one of all. Literally every branch of every vtuber company there is has one. If anything it was shocking it took them so long when all the other branches have their own server as well as the world one.

>buff asmr mukbang with kissing sounds
>still lose in SCs against chad fulgur doing a 1 month anniversary
>somehow a cunny is in between, don't mind her, she's depressed

>we have an unironic chinkbug in this very thread

>>21113940
You know what's more retarded?
Niji fans claiming that Nijisanji invented the streaming format for Vtubers.

>>21113759
Not pre ethyria though they did one months before HoloEN started with it right after debut.

>>21113435
Nijis can keep their EN Gold, they seem really desperate for it. I will never respect "the grind" when it involves zero sense of shame like this. You guys did it, good for you I guess?

>>21114009
Wait, only 2,4k???

>>21114009
Good on Folgers.

>>21113782
Makes me angry when hal rates aqua and gorilla as 10 points and a literal ex-pred is fucking 5 points. How is that fucking fair??

>>21114009
>Only 2k.
Shocking

>>21113802
Most people on this board don't respect China. So anyone who does chink pandering gets shit on here

>>21114083
they don't even win EN gold, ID is honorary EN.

>>21114009
Vox forgot to enable superchats for most of it.

>>21114115
yeah fuck him
he clearly wants his buddies to win
rigged shit

>>21114115
please understand, he swears he didnt know

>>21114009
Fujos in shambles

>>21114185
That doesn't mean shit, if fujos want to rainbow SC they could.

>>21113940
It would've been fine had Lazulight started their own EN server with the intention of other members joining in the future. But it took like 4 gens for them to have their own. People thought they were intending to play on the world server, along with other branches. One dedicated server seems like a cool plot. But no, they decide to make one themselves now with no story build up and doing things that's clippable.

>>21114009
>chad fulgur doing a 1 month
It's his birthday but he's anti-numberfag prime

>>21114276
>birthday after 1 month

>>21113719
this "copying" stuff is stupid af
>off-collab
but didn't takamori do one or more

>>21114383
takamori doesnt count

As a Holofag, felt good that nina only earnt 2.5k for a first time off collab buff when Ame earned 10k on hers and was much more kino than nina's stream. I just hope that money wasn't enough for a 3 day stay in the UK. Well, it would be unless nina stayed at Mysta's house and offers prositution.

>>21114418
Cope.

>>21114418
why?

>>21114263
I don't think anybody thought they were intending to play there considering everyone in the branch dropped Minecraft more or less.

Why is one of the OGs of the biggest corp still gets 3 views? Not even Sora has gotten this low.

>>21114418

She did

>>21114472
My hate for all of NijiEN grows by the day. Somebody needs to take action.

>>21114350

>>21114516
FF14 addiction pls understand

Please explain why US and Canadian love hololive more than nijisanji?

>>21114418
explain

>>21114383
Takamori did a watchalong, karaoke and they went on a skiing trip together for their offcollab streams

>>21114685
Have you watched Nijisanji? It sucks.

>>21114551
kek you had to look up 50 names to find one, nice. Were you searching for it since that post was made?

>>21114685
Check this out. This pretty much explain everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqDqA9Asydg

>>21114685
They don't have the GURA

>>21114685
they dont stream at 5am, for one

>>21114919
smol ame you're not even touching that trigger you retard

>>21114919
500k+ da fuck? Smol ame is that popular in jp?

>>21114276
>anti-numberfag
>still believing that after the leak
it's a cope

>>21113733

>>21115014
Good safety smol ame, good job.

>>21114891
No I'm a day 1 Botan member so I remembered the stream she did for it firsthand. A birthday that early is a debuff so I don't know where the retarded narrative that they do that to milk comes from

>>21115034
It's cute, not everyone was able to be there in person, and the mascot did a PERFECT job capturing the dorky chaotic energy that is the essence of Smol Ame. Seriously, props to whoever was in the costume.

>>21115086
and im botan's boyfriend, too bad

>>21115060
Also what's significant about 26 march in Fungus lore?
At least with Botan, that's still in leo's range.

Someone mentioned in the previous thread that Kaela barely gained any subs after her debut, which is very different from Zeta who blew up during and after.

She's looking to be the Anya of Gen 3, but was anyone really surprised after that debut?
It was probably one of the most boring debuts in recent hololive memory and if you're a clipper, she basically gave you nothing to work with. She displayed no unique talents or special traits and didn't have any memorable moments. That's before the ESL english and speaking 70% in indog. Didn't even say if she was good at LoL or not.

I believe in Cover's scouting department so I'm not going to draw conclusions from a debut, but that was not a debut that will make your subcount explode overnight. I hope she does well tho because I like hags.

>>21115144
holobronies seething hard today I see
is it because of this?

>Gold: NIJISANJI
>EN Gold: NIJISANJI

is that the reason you fags are seething?

>>21115060
kek, this

>>21115209
>EN Gold: NIJISANJI
that's HoloID's gold faggot.

>>21115139
Ame did a good job making Smol Ame its own character and not just her normal self in a different form.

>>21115172
His oshi mark is a sheep and that's in aries

>>21114685
they hate "off-brand" anonchama.. they always go to branded products so no wonder why they like hololive a lot more than nijisanji

>>21113870
They're not just stealing from Kuzuha.

>>21113733
>>21113806
He peaked higher after Luxiem started their ASMR.
Looks like the drop was just the typical "post boss dip" that Elden Ring streams get sometimes. He lost around 1.5k.

>>21115199
Yeah, she was pretty boring. And as a huge Cyber Sleuth fag, she was the one I was looking forward to the most. Hopefully she'll find her place in the group eventually. Seriously, she planned a TFT stream but not LoL? Why?

>zodiac signs talk now

>>21115343
Wait, really? My bad then.

>>21115199
Give her time, look at anya incline. Pekora and marine used to be below 10k shitter.

>>21115435
I'll be honest, I was at least partly shitposting, but I'll check his VOD later just out of numberfag curiousity. His gameplay is pretty mediocre and it filtered me how he kept dying to the most brain-dead attacks he's seen multiple times. Decided to watch Botan instead.

Fuck, Zeta's voice really reminds me of my crush.

>>21115199

She's not going to beat Anya. Kaela can't speak nips, and her English is also terrible. Unless she can pull a Moona with singing/dancing, i unironically think she'd be the worst of ID alongside with Iofi

>>21115435
It's not.
Look at the timestamps again.

>>21115554
Iofi at least found her niche stream, the beauty hair salon

>>21115554
Anya is the weakest HoloJP member.

Since ID is becoming more and more relevant, why don't we just merge EN and ID gold into overseas gold starting from today. ID won overseas gold today.

>>21115199
She's probably scouted to pander and open the id market. Her game choices seems to be toward that direction anyway. Mobile legends stream when?

>>21115554
Kowalski seems shaped up to be the Luilui of ID.

>>21115649
why dont you rope yourself instead

>>21115649
kek
holobronies have reached rock bottom, huh

>>21115649
Kys faggot

>>21115014
good trigger discipline

>>21115616

And unless her plan is only streaming that hair salon content, iofi would still be the weakest id.

>>21115665
She is bad at collab though...

anything notable for 27th aside from id debut ?

>>21115554
> i unironically think she'd be the worst of ID alongside with Iofi
You need a balanced team.
She's gonna be the organizer, tard-wrangler of their gen.

>>21115694
Nijikeks projecting in a shitpost, is it because of the off-collab? Kek

>>21115745
Hey, it's still too early to tell.

>>21115649
Since ID and EN are becoming more and more relevant, why don't we just merge EN and ID and JP gold into worldwide gold starting from today. JP won gold today.

>>21115657
Is she pro gamer without streaming experience?

Kaela is actually the worst non-retired hololive member ever debuted and should not have been hired. Somehow even Iofi is more talented and has a less autistic voice

>>21115825
Since Nijisanji is become more and more relevant everday, why don't we segregate tallies into two tallies, one for Hololive and Nijisanji?

>>21115854
>Kaela
That's wrong way of saying Mori.

>>21115916
heh

>>21115916
>irrelevant
FIFY

>>21115841
nobody knows yet, but she seems to be autistic about those games at least

>>21115916
Good idea. It'll kill tribalism but we'd kill the horse races.

>>21115854
As boring as Iofi is, she is actually a great communicator. Kaela isn't that good

>>21115766

God I hope so. Also I'm waiting to hear Kaela singing voice.

>>21115854
>Sana exists

No, you are wrong anon

>>21116027
Iofi got Pochi onboard as a Holo mama and that’s all I care about regarding her.

>>21115981
Unless she is actually good at gaming, she is no good.

>>21116027
Eh, give her some time. Not everyone is hot stuff out of the gate, and her nerves may have gotten to her, based on how she was speaking.

>>21115825
Not everyone here is a sad weeb like you. I don't give a fuck about JP.

So i've forgotten to ask for a while, but how are those Holo wafers selling? Saw some initial tweets about them, but haven't seen anything recently. How did they do/are they doing?

>>21115554
If Kaela is actually not half bad at LoL, she can carve out a 1-2k niche with LoL and beat Iofi, Anya, and Risu.

I'm just kinda baffled that she didn't show off anything noteworthy in her debut (I guess there was the comedic skit). With Council, at least you could tell what their "speciality" was in their debuts:
Sana: art (doesn't stream it tho RIP)
Fauna: ASMR
Kronii: Sex voice
Mumei: Singing + cute
Bae: Singing + Japanese

You can't even clip what Kaela is good at since she didn't say it.

>>21115199
Her tone is too flat for a streamer, her tone reminds me to a newcaster or radio host

What the fuck is wrong with /#/ today?
I know this is supposed to be horse race, but even real horse race give a new horse some time to acclimatize before passing on judgement.

>>21115649
International gold. I like it!

>>21116203
We'll never know since they will never sell out.
The stock is virtually infinite and you have mainstream properties like Demon Slayer and Love Live selling wafers that don't sell out either.

>>21116109
Does she sing ? I can't remember her mentioning karaoke as one of the content that she will do

>>21115590
He peaked again with 22k just a few minutes ago, just take your loss.

"Daily" Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $584,330 in total superchats and 106 days after her monetization is the 38th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Suou Patra

>>21116219
Maybe it was just nerves but her voice was terrible for vtubing, no memorable inflections sounded like your tech support or a spam call. But yeah if she commits hard to League/TFT/Hearthstone and fixes the nerves she would do fine.

>>21116320
Chloe is strong.

>>21116219
>Mumei
>Cute
>Not psycho

This Shion karaoke kinda goes hard though

>>21116283
Who cares about ID.

>>21116320

If only we had a # artist. I want him/her to draw different versions of Horses for this thread or maybe, we could draw the horses outselves?

>>21116273
I don't know if it's just me or she always waits for the other to end conversation first then talk back. Somehow reminds me of radio host

>>21116334
She sounded like a Flight Attendant to me.
Like her English was passable enough to be understandable, but you could very clearly hear the heavy accent and it sounded robotic.
Honestly tho, it's still better than Moona and Risu's english imo.

>>21116407
Do Holobronies really?

>>21116370
Nah, Mumei definitely started out as the cute one. She slowly built up her weirdo psycho reputation starting from that "Suisei" drawing she made in Paspartout, and it helped her carve her niche. Though, I'm not sure at what point she truly embraced the cute psychopath role

>>21116203
Selling like hot cakes I guess, people would get some random collectible Holo cards with the wafer right?

>>21116320
I just listened to her song. It's so good that I wish it were a bit longer.

>>21116121
>unless shes good, shes no good
yh i guess so anon

>>21115590
He just dropped 2k from 22k and Luxiem's collab has been declining for a while now.
Not every drop is correlated to another stream, people just tab out when he's stuck on a boss.

>>21116492
If Mumei's voice wasn't so autistic and her hair didn't look like shit from the front view I think I'd like her a lot

I kept telling anons yesterday 30k is impossible with ASMR. They unironically could have done it with a zatsu or something.

>>21116370
mumei is actually the gap of cute and scary

>>21116219

True. I'm expecting Kaela to be at least plat rank because she main Teemo. If she can play League and good at it then what she can get is not just 1-2k viewers. League is really famous in SEA and indo.

>>21116407
>>21116474
Oh yeah, fuck. When I tried drawing it, I realize it was slowly devolving into mlp territory

>>21116608
Unless you are Noel or Marine

>>21116645
wait really League is more popular dan dota now in indonesia ?

>>21116522
It's all part of her plans: blueballing you with her original every month

>>21116671
Well duh, you can do a lot of things as a top tier holo.

>>21116608

>>21116492
I don't know if she's psychopath one, but she is weird at least. Somehow reminds me of Korone

>>21116522
She should have use that voice for her karaoke stream more instead of the moe voice
I just can't understand nips sometimes

>>21116729
NTA and probably not.
I just think HoloID does a lot of debuff content right now and someone just streaming regular ass content (Apex/ LoL) should be able to get 1.5-2k regularly.
Ollie Apex doesn't count since she's actually unwatchably bad.

>>21116825
Anon you misunderstand me. I meant impossible for the limited fanbase Luxiem has. They need tourists to break 30k, and toruists is what they got for Mysta's karaoke celebration.

>>21116320
>after today Chloe is set for another 100k month
Weren't people saying she was dead? Don't doubt the freshly bathed Orca.

>>21114115
Nips now keep on digging dirt on Hal and his group.

>>21116729
As a former r/dotamasterrace fag, Dota will always be popular in Indo. LoL/ML is normie tier.

>>21114685
Hololive's scarcity vs Nijisanji's ACCELERATE
Hololive gives the vibe of better quality as individual anime character personalities while nijisanji feels like just your neighborhood streamer with an anime avatar

>>21116967
hololive and nijisanji tag ?

>>21116935
>freshly bathed
Did she take a bath?

>>21113266
meds
I'm pretty sure they're not THAT far gone

>>21117051
Yeah

>>21117068
The fact that it seems plausible shows how pathetic they are. If I told you MiComet kissed nobody would believe it because MiComet are actually good and respectable.

>>21115034
Smol Ame mascot went viral. Its hard to usually claim clips help a chuuba incline though, and this being mascot clips for a JOP audience...yeah I don't see Ame getting much out of it in numbers.

>>21117066
It's a joke after people kept calling Zeta the 'cleaner Chloe'.

>>21117066
https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1507625455842922496
Stinky Orca is no longer stinky

>>21117068
It's Nijisanji. They always manage to reach a new low. Creative freedom, they said.

>>21114009
Did al taiwan fujos abandon Vox?

>>21116967
I don't watch Hal, is he getting nasty comments on his streams? Feels like he's getting enjou'd for shitting on the 1st gens of Hololive and Nijisanji, along with the pred thing and the tags.

>>21117066
Yep
She tweeted about it

>>21117068

I dare you to watch it. You can grudge post me many times as you want after that.

>>21117068
watch it and tell us

>>21117180
>>21117209
This is an actual tragedy

>>21117207
Fujos are an extremely fickle viewer base, Luxiem are pulling out all the stops pandering at extreme levels constantly, but the second they get burnt out, the fujos will migrate to their next autism target.

>>21116935
>freshly bathed
What’s the point. It’s not the same anymore.

>>21117214
timestamp next thread?

>>21114685
Hololive got to the market first more or less. And most people are casual enough that their interest in vtubers is fulfilled just by HoloEN so won't bother looking elsewhere. Not much else to it than that.

Calling it now, Marine and Chloe larp some sort of sea themed lesbian relationship to milk /u/ fags of supas in the upcoming months while Chloe slowly gains viewers due to Marine's popularity

>>21117328
I swear this is the Luxiem version of "man predicts the collapse of Hololive for the 7th time"
Vox is going to make $100k again next month and his sub growth is not slowing down (+5k per day).

Post this shit when they actually show signs of slowing down.

>>21117328
That's why you never pander hard on the get-go, because then the viewers would ask for more in order to be satisfied

>>21116870
you think tourist will visit them more than once and not be disgusted by their fujochink pandering?

>>21117386
Nah, it's more of mother and daughter dynamic. Similar to mio and ayame

>>21117386
With Marine out of commission, might as well.

So I just listened to Chloe's original and its actually amazing. Then I saw she wrote the music herself and her 30 second meme original was damn catchy as well.

I have a feeling this dumb Orca hasn't even shown us half of her power yet. She is amazing.

predictions? https://youtu.be/DlV9Xba9N9s

>>21117348
Probably doesn't help that they have a shitload of militant western fans that maliciously and unintentionally spread either entirely false or greatly exaggerated negative rumors about about Nijisanji to reassure themselves they are supporting the right team either.

>>21117386
If you watched the Raft collab, Chloe literally calls Marine "mom".

>>21117627

8k

>>21117627
12k without significant overlaps
6k with overlaps

>>21117627
Any guest?

>>21117627
Predicting anything over 6k right now for Hachaama is a risk I'm not willing to take.
Sorry chammers, but it's not your time now.

>>21117662
Funguschama...

>>21117627
10k

>>21117627
I miss that bitch
Kson isn't the same thing, Coco was a Hololive beast, her hilarity came from interacting with holos

>>21117627
5k-10k. She'll attract the Reddit tourists, but Haachama is numbers poison right now so I don't think she can go much higher than that

>>21117662
That shit mostly happens here and if you're here, then you already know it's mostly lies or you're already tribal as fuck.

I rarely see anything negative posted about Hololive or Nijisanji in the real world.

>>21117662
what?

>>21117822
Nah, Hololive gets attacked all the time because of "idol culture" and salty 2views.

>>21117662
This has to be bait.

>>21117822
It filters down. How many thousands of people that have never seen more than 5 minutes of a Nijisanji stream have you seen parrot lines about cliques or quality over quantity?

>>21117662
Anon, outside of Niji bubbles, people barely think of NijiEN at all. Lulu has generated more general niji discussion than Luxiem. The NijiEN girls fans collab begging too. Negativity about them barely exists, because Hololive fans simply won't watch them.

>>21117822
Did you just memory hole the pedo drama and shit?

odds that fulgur will break 10k in superchats?

Nijisanji damage control team, let's go!

>Shion poll

>>21117938
That's the point I'm making though? Hololive fans won't watch them because there's been years of Hololive fans creating a negative impression of Nijisanji in Hololive fan circles with their quality over quantity, cliques vs family, discount hololive talking points.

>>21117965
The Vendi Gura shit when she debuted? That was literally nothing.
LSF being retarded is nothing new, but even in those threads where some fucktard has a clip shitting on vtubers, there's a legion of defenders in those threads.

The topic is tribalism between Hololive and Nijisanji anyways, and in the real world, it rarely happens on the western side.

>>21118122
Or they have tried to watch them and just prefer Hololive

>>21118122
>there's been years of Hololive fans creating a negative impression of Nijisanji
Lol what the fuck is this fanfiction.

>>21117570
I always wanted a songwriter Holo and never expected it to be her, but she's doing a good job at it so far, looking forward to watching her keep getting better at it

>>21118122
Wait. I thought those were valid critiques?

I fucking forgot the CCV in the screenshot but it's 12k, poll ended 2 hours 31 minutes into the stream

>>21118122
Retard, no one cares enough to be negative about niji was my point. I'm sorry you look at the tribalism of /vt/ and think it reflects jack shit. The same board shits on hololive a million times harder, because that's what gets shitposters (you)s.

>>21118122
Holofags aren't skipping out on Nijis because of negative impressions, it's because they are happy enough with content from Hololive that they don't feel the need to branch out. I already don't have enough time in a day to watch all the holos I like, why would I check out Nijis?

Most western Nijifags are the Holofags who did grow tired of Holocontent and branched out.

>>21118106
>>21118317

>>21118128
To defend something means that an attack has occurred. Your take is already invalid. Just take the L instead of double-dipping and downplaying what has happened.

>>21118122

Proof ?

>>21118268
What? The nijisanji cope list? Half that shit is made up

That's alot of females

>>21118371
It's on the internet so it must be true!

>>21118333
>imagining a world where negativity about something never happens
Fucking retard, even Sesame Street has haters.

>>21118122
As opposed to niji fans trying to attack hololive in every single moments? There's a reason why Holo fans refuses do budge after wave and wave of attacks you niggers do to Hololive fanbase. The negative impression came because of you and your EN talents chimping out like a fucking niggers they are.

>>21118334
>19% female
No fucking way kek

>>21118424
Sesame street is shit and deserved to be hated. Now you are down to name-calling. You don't even argue in a good faith, and only want to push your narrative.

>>21118371
dyrbi?

>>21117662
Anon, you are
>Here
We all
>Here
know that rrats from
>Here
Don't mean anything to the greater vtuber audience outside of
>Here
For most normal vtuber watchers, vtubers are just Hololive on YT and Vshoujo+"others" on Twitch.

>>21118320
I've always picked up on a distinctly negative impression of Nijisanji among Hololive fans outside of here. If people barely know it, it's a negative impression because it's that one that isn't hololive, if people know more than that about it they have probably heard mostly negative stuff from their friends in comparison to hololive.

i just listened to Chloe's song and wtf. She's so much easier to listen to and actually sounds really nice. Why doesn't she use this voice whenever she sings? She's crippling herself like Kiara with the chicken voice.

>>21118250
This reminds me of the 'what's good about your oshi' question.
Ask a holobrony this question, they'll make an entire list of what makes their oshi fun to watch, even reccomend clips or even which stream should they start with, link included.
Ask a nijinigger the same question, and they'll answer with how much better their oshi was compared to Hololive.

>>21118454
Are you still talking about the discord leak? God you retards are sensitive.

And you fags think that it doesn't happen the other way around?
Seriously.
>>21118542
I couldn't even recognize her voice.

>>21118535
>I've always picked up on a distinctly negative impression of Nijisanji among Hololive fans outside of here
Yes but you're a schizo and citing unsourceable examples, so who cares?

>>21118454
Reminds me of the Niji shills popping up the moment Hololive drama happens trying to get people to convert.

>>21118535

I've always find negative shit about Hololive from Nijisanji fans outside /vt/ too, so you're just forcing your narrative.

>>21118593
Go stream, Reimu.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>25,610: Vox (Nijisanji)
>18,416: Gura (Hololive)
>14,495: Mori (Hololive)
>9,406: Mumei (Hololive)
>9,358: Baelz (Hololive)
>9,288: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,451: Fauna (Hololive)
>7,194: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,968: Shu (Nijisanji)
>6,444: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>5,058: Alban (Nijisanji)

>>21118461
EOPs just picked first visible option.

>>21117207
The actual answer is that it was a collab, thus there were fewer SC-reading-kiss-kiss thing he does. His collabs have always earned less SC compared to normal or pandering streams. 3.6k is actually pretty high - in comparison, his collab with Fulgur got 800, 600 w/ Luca and 1.6k with Ike. Interestingly, his collab with Reimu earned the most, sitting at almost 5k.
Disliking him being a manwhore asides, >>21117328 is either uninformed or delusional. Fujos are usually way crazier and more loyal than otaku. As long as Vox doesn't outright shit on them over a long time, they will be with him. Again, just look at all those male idols, JP or KR. Saying that fujos are "extremely fickle viewer base" is rather... uninformed (and / or dumb)

>>21118593
>Irrefutable proof the bad blood is from Niji side
Y-You guys are sensitive...

>>21118504
Yes why not? i browse Twitter sometimes so i know that holomems have decent female fanbase also you can check 3rd gen concert

>>21118639
I didn't say it doesn't happen the other way around. But the three western nijisanji fans pre NijiEN compared to the millions of hololive doesn't really have much effect does it.

>>21118461
Gura exist anon.

>>21118692
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)
7. IRyS (Hololive) - 20,211 (Birthday party and Totsu)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 17,364 (Project Diva Mega Mix)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,491 (We Were Here w/Ike)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 19,133 (Ring Fit Adventure)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 16,530 (Unarchived Karaoke)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 16,109 (Elden Ring)
13. Mumei (Hololive) - 24,090 (UNO w/Gura, Ina, and Baelz)
14. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,202 (Birthday party and Totsu)
15. Mumei (Hololive) - 8,939 (Doom Eternal)
16. Ina (Hololive) - 14,467 (Elden Ring)
17. Kiara (Hololive) - 27,020 (3DVR Dance School w/Gura, Amelia, Ina, and Mori)
18. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 33,386 (300k Karaoke Celebration)
19. Kiara (Hololive) - 15,157 (HoloFes Day 1 Watchalong)
20. Enna (Nijisanji) - 9,920 (Besties Offline Collab)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,821 (Mumei Draws Hololive)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 24,337 (Post Holofes Zatsu)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 17,837 (Ao Oni w/Ike)
24. Gura (Hololive) - 17,762 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
25. Nina (Nijisanji) - 21,108 (Offline collab w/Mysta, Vox, and Ike)
26. Vox (Nijisanji) - 25,610 (Offline ASMR collab w/Mysta)

Hololive - 18
Nijisanji - 8
Others - 0

>>21118622
Oh yeah, they were all over Rushia's termination tweet. That shit was both funny and pathetic.

>>21118692
kys

>>21118454
>wave after wave of attacks
What fantasy world are you living in? What attacks? Nothing like the JPs 2020 reporting has happened since then. Were nijifans the ones proudly posting here that they reported new gens so they'd get their subs culled? No it was the fragile faggots with Luxiem rent free in their head
>>21118622
/vt/ is an eceleb dramawhore board, what makes you think they weren't hololive fans? I've used /NijiEN/ and the seething hatred you have doesn't exist there

>>21118713
You used JP or KR, but what about chink fujo?

>>21118692
>>21118751
kys

Nijiniggers periodically derail these threads and I'm sick off it. (You) are also retards for replying to them.

>>21118713
>collab with Reimu
Wasn't that because he started early and did zatsu for quite some time before the collab actually began?

>>21118542
because thats not her normal voice. Suisei is the opposite, and kiara i dont really know

prediction for kobo's debut ?

>>21118713
>Saying that fujos are "extremely fickle viewer base" is rather... uninformed (and / or dumb)
Yeah, we're talking about kpop stan-esque behavior.
It's arguably as loyal of an audience as you can get unless you have a career ending scandal.
Unlike kpop idols, a streamer has a longer shelf life too and a l2d doesn't grow old.

>>21118846
Okay, you have some interesting numbers to discuss, then?

>>21118692
Fauna...

Fuck I'm tired with all of these tribal shit and nijiniggers. I'll be back when Kobokan open her waiting room

>>21118692
kys

>>21118788
>/vt/ is an eceleb dramawhore board, what makes you think they weren't hololive fans?
Everytime hololive suffers attacks from some yabe, you go to reddit, twitter or youtube and check the users and you will get nijinigs
>I've used /NijiEN/ and the seething hatred you have doesn't exist there
Because they go out to shit on others

>>21118967
40-50k

>>21118692
My Lord! I kneel!
Thank you for showing these peasants what a real entertaining EN Vtuber looks like

>>21118967
40k

>>21118967
Between Zeta and Kaela numbers.

>>21118549
I don't think I've ever seen that once. if you asked that question in a non bait way without mentioning hololive in the actual NijiEN thread on this board I have no doubt you'd get plenty of people sincerely explaining what they like about the members they watch.

>>21118967
Should be better than Kaela (not hard) if she has a cute voice and if she has an interesting debut + sings, then it could reach Zeta's numbers.
Kaela's debut today was one of the worst holo debuts since 2020 in that it was just plain boring and unmemorable. It wasn't even a trainwreck like Ame's.

>>21118593
never in a history of vtubers where a talents of certain agency whose talents on the other branch has a very good relationship with each other got caught very red handed shit talking them. Good thing that Holo fans doesn't even think you niggers exist at all. If it's the other way around nijiniggers will 100% chimps out and tries to cancel Hololive.
>>21118788
>what is constant bait thread about holo talents
>what is derailing topics with nijiniggers hard sell marketing
what kind of fantasy world are YOU living in?
> I've used /NijiEN/ and the seething hatred you have doesn't exist there
Because holofans don't think about nijis at all and prefer to be happy watching their preferred talents until niggers like you always baiting and shits up the place especially with the chink pandering manwhore.

>>21118967

40k. 60k if she got cute voice like Zeta

>>21118828
When I said "Look at male idols, JP or KR", I was talking about JP and KR male idols, not JP / KR fujos. Those JP / KR idols have a lot of Chink and SEA fujos among their fans and there isn't that much difference between them.

>>21119073
Indeed. And he could have gotten higher number had he gotten Mysta to suck his cock. Or vice versa, I don't think the fujos will care.

>>21118967
depends if JP members gonna overlap like today, it was genocide

>>21119114
Lol what a way to out yourself as a newfag.

>>21119205
Would have definitely broken Coco's "record" too if it werent for CCVid

>>21118828
Have you seen Chinese BTS fans? They're insane enough that even the CCP stopped boycotting BTS after they had a china yab.

This idea that chinese women are going to ditch Luxiem any time soon because they spam horror/manwhore content is just wishful thinking.

>>21119183
Those JP and KR male idols keep getting cancelled in CN though. How is CN not different than JP and KR?

>>21119262
It's something that just doesn't happen.

>>21119183
>chink and sea fujos
I can tell you for a fact that chink fujos does not have any loyalty at all. Pandering to chinks will bring nothing but disaster to anyone and I can't wait for them to implode.

>>21118788
Didn't Niji fans try to attack Fubuki because she created a chat frame with SC on after playing Sekiro? Saying she broke the law or something

>>21119313
Are you chinese?

>>21119354
Keep repeating it and it might come true one day.
Just like 'slow and steady' anon.

>>21119414
No, use google retard. It ain't hard.

>>21119359
Yea, they did. But nijiniggers love to memory hole their deeds.
They should just focus on their fandom instead since another Nijisanji graduation is happening in April.

I miss when Nijiniggers would at least fuck the thread up by bragging about their big numbers. They got big numbers today!
Why the fuck is the discussion some sort of "boo hoo no one wants to watch our livers because nijiphobia abloo bloo"?

>>21119342
Cope. Just because you go "Lalalala I can't see shit." doesn't change it's a fact.

>>21119436
every single time. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, every single fucking company, every single fucking instance, every single fucking attempt of appeasing to chinks has been ended up in a fucking disaster and controversy. Why do you think that this is going to be different?

>>21119583
They are mindbroken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrbQhFqtFAM&feature=youtu.be [Embed]
Chimkin i kneel.

>>21119656
>kneeling to Sana

>>21119656
>surprise collab in EU time on Kiara's channel
I hate Kiara so much. The debuffer of HoloEN

>>21119592
It really isn't a thing no matter how hard you might wish it was anon.

>>21119583
They are not breaking any peak, but they want to be relevant in the discussion without being relevant.

>>21119656
20-25k

>>21119685
Either her or Mori
And she draw too

>>21119611
>It happens every time, except the times it doesn't happen, in which it's only a matter of time until it does.
Yeah yeah, keep repeating it until it happens, we'll wait.
Until then, try to keep the doomposting to a minimum until the numbers actually shows signs of the big yab happening.

>>21119359
Oh yes, they did. And what's even more baffling, the fuckers literally mentioned that NijiJP also make use of that loophole, yet it didn't stop him from attacking FBK.
Nijiniggers are so fucking mental they'd jeopardize their own chuubas just so they can attack Hololive.

>>21119656
>Kiara once again dragging HoloEN to her numbers poison EU slot
Fuck off, just adjust your schedule a bit and do it in NA prime time. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>21119711
Uh huh, yeah, sure. Totally.

>>21119758
Yeah, won't have a high peak, just happy that at least it'll happen.

>>21119707
It's salvaging the cancelled TTRPG collab.
You know if it weren't for this, none of the myth girls would stream today.

I'm honestly impressed Kiara managed to find 6 people. There hasn't been a HoloEN collab this big in a while.

>>21116013
You can't kill shit. If someone wants to keep track of something, they will, and none of you can stop them. see EN Gold

Tomorrow I could make female and male gold tallies, ID gold tallies, most liked video tallies and if I actually committed to posting them daily you could not stop me.

>>21119879
Stop responding to the Nijinigger, faggot.

>>21119656
She even managed to drag Sana and Fauna in? I KNEEL! But God fucking dammit, Kiara. Stream at a reasonable time for your audience! I predict 15k

>>21118751
>>21118692
>Nijisanji EN is putting up a better a fight compared to their failed japanese branch

RORU RUMAO

>>21119656
>Kiara's channel
>EU hours

>>21120001
Again, she could just "salvage" it a bit later. Ah well at least its the weekend this time.

>>21119879
It's just another one of those negative things about nijisanji that hololive fans repeat amongst themselves until they convince themselves that it's fact without ever engaging with it themselves.

>>21120001
Guarantee it'll have double the peak of the suppose TTRPG though( which is like 9k last time).

>>21120036
Bear in mind 1 of their victories on this tally is literally a default during Holofes. While HoloEN were part of 60k+ streams every day on the JP channels.

>>21120084
the classic memory holing and history revisionism. The nijiniggers special

>>21120120
stop making and legitimizing this retarded EN gold

I can't believe there are people in this thread defending Luxiem. I view them as the most detestable vtubers ever. We must have unironic fags here.

>>21119824
It was the TTRPG slot, she's just replacing it since Mori cancelled

>>21120120
Hololive already won the month.
These next few days are irrelevant unless they can break the global vtubing record.

>>21120214
Nijisanji spends a lot on ads, including paid shills and defenders.

>>21120056
Apparently they're doing some shitty scribble game. Dunno why HoloEN won't just repeat a good collab game (like Gartic Phone, for example). Their obsession with new games has lead to a lot of fucking baffling kusoge collabs. In contrast JPs have no qualms with spamming Gartic Phone, Amogus etc

>>21120214
I honestly dunno what's worse, the idea that there are actual fujos and fags ITT legitimately numberfagging their oshis, or that Niji tribalists/holo antis actually take the time to watch Luxiem streams to shitpost here. Imagine watching cocksucking LARP to own the holobronies lmao

>>21120240
Coco's record? Yeah, not even Jun can beat that.

>>21120214
Have you missed the fujos that started flocking to this board the last few weeks?

>>21120418
Yeah, I remember them flooding the NijiEN thread that in turn make those regular poster creating another general for Niji female gen.
It's crazy.

I don't know if there's a leaderboard but does anyone have a list of top 10 most followed holos on twitter?

>>21119171
> I've used /NijiEN/ and the seething hatred you have doesn't exist there
>Because holofans don't think about nijis at all and prefer to be happy watching their preferred talents until niggers like you always baiting and shits up the place especially with the chink pandering manwhore.
Are you new to /#/? Holofans don't think about nijis at all? Once again, you have to either have a victim complex or live in a fucking fantasy world. NijiEN fans are willing to just watch their streamers.
>what is with the constant bait threads?
Again, I see more for Pomu, Finana and Selen than even Mori. Do you actually think Mori hate threads are made by nijiniggers?

>>21119656
Wasn't it because others in the ttrpg had a full schedule that it wouldn't work? Everyone is here apart from Mori.

>>21120723
Yeah I'm pretty sure the constant threads shitting on nijisanji as a whole in comparison to hololive using nijisanji images are hololive fans.

I have seen more attacks on holos and people throw shades and shit on holobronies more. You can just go to the vyt subreddit and see for yourself especially chinesemaple who likes to pretend to be unity but is just biased as fuck in his moderation. He will then pretend to be a victim of holobronies and haters.

.t small corpo watcher who hates hypocrites.

>>21120290
The infamous note blog post becomes more and more relevant by the day.

>>21119656
drawing collab but no Mumei buff?
is kiara hate mumei rrat real?

>>21118967
75k just for the rrat spreading around.

>>21120214
Luxiem unironically is Nijisanjis much needed mid-high tier streamers that seemed to have gradually disappeared last year

>>21119359
Yes you have me there. I forgot about that since how full of shit this last month has been. Still, I hold to my other points which were about Western fans and not 5chan schizos.

>>21120898
mumei is asleep because lui had too much morning sex with her

>>21120898
Kiara was the one who asked around if anyone wanted to do a collab to replace the TTRPG stream. It probably just means that Mumei didn't respond. Might be busy or asleep

>>21120922
Rainych isn't gonna go to Hololive

why?

>>21119656
18.5k and won't even be tomorrow's EN gold(kys EN tally fags).

>>21120774
What are you trying to say, ESLchama?

>>21121075
Well she just got a collab with Lui

>>21120214
>defending Luxiem
I don't watch them and view Vox and Mysya's shtick as unnerving. I don't know why the holoEN only people in this thread are so mad at all times and think it's funny to challenge their borderline delusional takes. I don't give a shit about the content of their streams. It's /#/.

>>21121114
So double the Ttrpg

>>21121111
Bots from the Pokemon Autism arc...

>>21119359
Yes, and it backfired into nijiEN privating their vods

>>21121162
You know what i was asking about.

>>21121203
Nobody really cared until the Luxiem fag kept on constantly baiting.

>>21121111
Again? What did friend do this time?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>64,147: Ange (Nijisanji)
>36,551: Kaela (Hololive)
>33,666: Marine (Hololive)
>27,561: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,550: Vox (Nijisanji)
>22,261: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,210: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,685: Botan (Hololive)
>20,513: Shion (Hololive)
>18,399: Gura (Hololive)
>16,532: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,675: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,514: Noel (Hololive)
>14,800: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,766: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,727: Miko (Hololive)
>14,445: Calli (Hololive)
>14,028: Zeta (Hololive)
>13,893: Suisei (Hololive)
>13,375: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,954: Chloe (Hololive)
>12,738: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,606: Ars (Nijisanji)
>11,937: Korone (Hololive)
>10,996: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,987: Lui (Hololive)
>10,924: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,101: Runa (VSPO)

>>21121111
anyways, let's go marine, I expect her to surpass fbk.

>>21121370
MARCH 2022 GOLD
1) Botan (Hololive) - 38,974 - Vampire Survivors
2) Nene (Hololive) - 91,087 - Birthday 3D Live
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,971 - ARK Collab
4) Roboco (Hololive) - 52,777 - Anniversary 3D Live
5) Miko (Hololive) - 125,971 - Birthday 3D Live
6) Hayase (Nijisanji) - 72,274 - 3D Debut
7) Miko (Hololive) - 49,481 - Horse Gacha
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,347 - Karaoke
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,779 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 35,477 - Valorant custom
11) Sukoya (Nijisanji) - 35,475 - Return stream (3D)
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,894 - Return zatsu
13) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,854 - NePoLaBo idol outfits
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,843 - Pekozon
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 42,762 - Birthday totsu
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,166 - Vampire Survivors
17) Marine (Hololive) - 45,275 - Vampire Survivors
18) Hal (Neo Porte) - 114,763 - VSayko announcement
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 105,716 - Hololive 3rd Fes day 1
20) Hololive (Hololive) - 107,226 - Hololive 3rd Fes day 2
21) Marine (Hololive) - 35,102 - Vampire Survivors
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 83,346 - Birthday Karaoke + Announcement
23) Ange (Nijisanji) - 37,150 - New outfit reveal
24) Subaru (Hololive) - 36,740 - Sausage Legend
25) Vestia (Hololive) - 60,569 - Debut stream
26) Ange (Nijisanji) - 64,147 - Sanbaka 3rd anniversary Live

TOTAL GOLD SO FAR

> PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora, Hololive, Subaru
2x: Suisei, Miko, Marine, Ange
1x: Roboco, Hayase, Kuzuha, Sukoya, Botan, Nene, Koyori, Hal, Vestia

>>21121370
Solid day, senchou nearly beating the indog debut is... ouch

>>21121093
Rainy had been dabbing into streaming for sometime, and had achieved a peak in her youtube channel. She probably doesn't know where to go next, being an idol/streamer could be a side job she wants to pursue. It's like Reine, she has the money but want things that Hololive could offer.

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1507761429033619456
Let's see how many likes can this tweet get.

>>21121589
>It's like Reine, she has the money but want things that Hololive could offer.
Is Rainy going to fuck all the girls too?

>>21121589
So she's just gonna stream once a week?

>>21121370
Holy fuck yagoo just disband this branch, this is so fucking sad

>>21121706
which branch

>>21120922
Funny that this general overhypes this Rainy so much and yet barely anyone knew who Hanatan was when she debuted as vtuber

>>21121589
She's literally running a deal with Sonny. Checking her twitter she seem to be busy building a more solid career too. Reine is a literal princess without a care for money, these 2 are complete different.

>>21121370
Neo Porte dead allready? Anyway, where my horny post?

>>21121735
The Nijigirls.