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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

>>21027294
Vote post, 2022-03-25

For all votes, please mark the vote with one of the options provided at the beginning of the vote. Elaboration is optional unless otherwise noted. This is especially important for issues where abstaining is NOT an option.
The vote will last for 48 hours, starting from the time where this post is made. The result will be compiled and posted within 24 hours after the end.

1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
>Yes/No/Abstain
2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 and picrel.
>A/B/C/D/Abstain
3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
>Next round/Later date (please elaborate if latter)
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
>Yes/No

bump

>>21028706
I agree that it is a fine line, but you're wrong if you think it's no different. To a /nasfaqg/ traders you might be a slave to the big ideas, the spooks, stemming from the collective which enslaved your mind. This is how anarchism/extreme individualism works.

Let me illustrate it: if you tried to spread /meat/ cults throughout /nasfaqg/, you'd likely find people who are willing to partake and experiment. However, you'd very quickly see the whole thing spinning out of control, with sects breaking up, schisms happening overnight, and culture completely bastardized by the individuals who partake in it. Any cultural/religious elements would be lost, irreversibly replaced by whatever personal sentiment a /nasfaqg/ cultist had. They'd likely go public with their likes, since the idea of a social taboo is a spook.

You'd successfully introduce the idea of cannibalism, eating human meat, but you'd fail to establish an actual /meat/ cult following its tenets or create individuals that could be controlled.

>>21031816
>You'd successfully introduce the idea of cannibalism, eating human meat
good enough

>>21032130
You have to be careful, though. Food is a very divisive topic on nasfa/ck/. Basically, once you introduce an idea, you'll spawn supporters and opponents of it out of nowhere, some just vocal, some very militaristic.

For example, the tomatoes. Do they belong in dishes? Are they good?

>>21027357
How was this not already voted on?

>>21032438
I actually quite like the tomato cheese ramen joint near my work place

>>21032841
You've just become a sworn enemy of half of nasfa/ck/. You'd become an enemy of the other half if you stated the opposite.

>>21033071
I would think putting tomato, cheese and ramen together would make me an enemy of everyone ngl

>>21031816
so /nasfaqg/ is a slave to hipster culture and the spook of individualism as an escape from any collective. take it from someone whose personal politics leans heavily towards libertarianism, you'll never escape the influences of the collective, the best you can do is increase your ability to resist it. and as >>21032130 said, it's good enough if you guys just eat meat. desu, i don't quite know what you think /meat/ culture or philosophy is, controlling people isn't as important to us, anyone can partake in the life cycle, we just want to do so more fully. it's fine if you disagree with us, so long as you aren't trying to artificially resist it. honestly, i figured /nasfaqg/'s desire to struggle constantly for self-improvement to be a good example of the tenet of suffering and rebirth, even if you guys don't recognize it.

>>21027357
Sakuran here.
>1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
>>Yes/No/Abstain
Y. Sakuran proposed the exchange of /mion/and /fbk/ for lore reasons, which passed, so I see no reason for this one not to either, especially since ex-/pyon/ is empty space now.
>2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 and picrel.
>>A/B/C/D/Abstain
D
>3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
>>Next round/Later date (please elaborate if latter)
Next round
>4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
>>Yes/No
Yes

Also I put another proposal last thread, whether we should send another round of envoys come Monday, though I'm not sure that necessary needs to be voted on.
>>21032438
People who dislike tomatoes are cowards with no taste

>>21033250
>the spook of individualism
A slave to not being a slave, lmao. Leaning towards libertarianism is different from being a bona fide anarchist, though. Especially any form of individual anarchism.
And as >>21032438 said, at best you can expect for some /nasfaqg/ traders to eat meat, some opposing them out of preference, others out of ideology. You'd get the full spectrum of proponents and opponents, with both radical ends of the spectrum being militant about it solely because it's a food item and food debates are more heated than any other kind of debate in /nasfaqg/.

As such, to go back to the beginning, I can imagine that yeah, you will find some individual plutocrats who will be trying to distrupt it. Most probably won't care.

>>21007588
i want to get creative with this one, since we already have english, having something like norse be some kind of proto-english as an explanation for english in this world, maybe i'll make something of a "romance" language for /rose/ lol. anyways, i'm thinking of including the nahuatl alphabet and transcribing it into runic letters that don't actually exist, as well as the nordic alphabet. considering nahuatl's syllable structure, i think i'm going to make runic syllabaries, similar to hiragana in function. any objections /meat/heads?

Please wait warmly as I write up the lore for /nina/... its taking me some time

>>21034573
In this case, I prefer alphabet above syllabaries, since that's what Runes are already. We'll probably be fine with just new letters for tl, sh and ch. Something like that tla and chi syllabary should work well for tl and ch. We can probably pick up something from Europe for sh.

>>21027357
/pyon/ weighs in
>1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
yes
>2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 and picrel.
i haven't been keeping up with this discussion really as it doesn't concern me, but A or D, and if i have to choose one, D
>3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
if it is relevant, the former. if it is overly abstained because it is that inherently unimportant, later date
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
yeah, sure

>>21034120
so in short, /nasfaqg/ culture is murphy's law. imo, anarchy in the typical sense is incoherent, but systems that allow individuals to go their own way while still upholding the overall culture and rule-set without the need for people to actively enforce it's rules is possible in my opinion. your system seems a bit unstable as far as i understand it, but that's probably fitting for your thread, and an unstable system that is repeatedly born anew seems fitting to my understanding of /meat/ ideals, so i guess i have a bit of respect for it, at least personally. /meat/ being a fundamentalist autocracy means we're still pretty different in terms of government, but that's fine by me, too.

>>21035266
ok, good thing the script is in it's infancy, so usage is pretty malleable. i'm thinking of making it about 32 letters in total, which will include:
a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,th,ð,tl,sh,ch
i'm making a new alphabet for this, i'm not sure if you understood that part because i only mentioned it in passing, it was going to *look* runic but not contain actual runes, did you want this?

>>21035950
I'm working on the IPA table for the language, which is probably a better way to find out which one needs a letter.

I think its quite likely /nasfaqg/ would have some type of a honor culture thing going on. When there are no enforceable legal ways to bind someone into a contract, the only thing left would be trust, either in the moral principles of the other person, or their lust for profit. A Merchant's value is not measured only in merit, but also the weight of their word. Afterall, what worth are goods that are never delivered or are delivered in poor condition, or gold that is never paid.

This "Merchant's honor" would also be part of the reason why plutocrats who are taking opposite sides on geopolitical issues, or are rivals, refrain from using underhanded tactics such as attacking the other's estate or trying to assassinate the other in order to gain an edge. Instead choosing to utilize the commonly agreed upon "proper" methods such as backing entities that oppose one's rivals, challenging the other to a mahjong match to the death etc etc

>>21036593
i made 31 runes, i don't think any of them repeat but i'm pretty retarded so i wouldn't put it past me. we don't have to use this at all, your call really, i just wanted to make it

>>21035950
>>21038071
This should be the combined IPA table for the two languages: https://rentry.org/sqkvf
I simplified some allophones to make the item list more manageable. Letter in [] is usually how it is transliterated/written in Old Norse, while letter in <> is usually how it is transliterated/written in Nahuatl.

OGsuner

pic related when i saw countries who would make good sex tourists and knowing risuners fuck 3 times a day average. We squirrel people are very sexually active

>>21038141
so i notice sometimes nahuatl has different ways to transliterate certain letters, should i take this into consideration for the alphabet? because i've numbered each letter including these as separate ones, and the tally goes up to 33, including some vowels that don't exist in english

>>21038504
Yes, because the Spaniards weren't too consistent when writing down Nahuatl (or Spanish for that matter), so the same consonant is often written in multiple ways. Since that only happens because the Spaniards are trying to write down their language in a hurry, that should be taken account and not be part of our language. That's why I'm making the IPA table, so that we can know how many sounds are around in order to decide which letter we should give to them.
Also adding the RL Runes to the table for reference.

>>21038497
/∞/ is always close Risuner...

>>21038747
give us roads and we give you sex. KEK

>>21038636
when you finish the IPA, i will make the script reflect it

>>21038888
We would give you sex even without the roads, I've seen what you are capable to do with that tail of yours.

>>21038961
It should be completed. Overall Old Norse has most of the sounds of Nahuatl, with the exception of the three affricates and sh. Even then, you can analyse them as t+fricative (kind of like how sh is written as tch in French), which will reduce the amount of new letters required down to two (the l in tl, and sh), since both t and s are already in Old Norse.

>>21039152
It is the core of our culture that we exchange nuts with each other. Therefore you are actually respecting our ways by letting us taste your nuts.

>>21039249
I shouldn't have scrapped that third khroniicle...

>>20970881
I'll see how I go, sick atm so my brain is working overtime trying to keep up.
>>20971873
Food sounds good I think. Still trying to figure out what we actually need and where we are technologically. But more food never hurt anyone.
>>21013292
I kinda wanna try running this as an independent state for a bit just in the spirit of having more players etc but thanks.

We do have a port town in the north, kinda wary on having other people fully build cities and military installations etc BUT trade sounds nice. Will think more on this later.

>>21039154
hows this? i threw a proper V (labial voiced fricative) in because i think we could use it

>>21037610
this was what i figured /nasfaqg/ would need to survive, yet the other guy said contracts were worthless without physical strength to back it up, and that the concept of a soul made the profit motive an uncertainty, which would both lead to there being absolutely no way to be certain of anything at all in /nasfaqg/ markets, which would ruin any other system that i can think of. was that guy talking for the whole board, or is he just someone with his own idea of how it should work, and if so, how much of it is canon?

>>21040459
looks alright to me

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>>21043357
Waranon. Tell me who you think should go to war. /risu/ is not yet ready for war we still need boats.

>>21043547
/risu/ won't have offensive capabilities for decades, too.

>>21043547
Everyone

>>20978459
Come to think of it, by establishing /ggg/ as the liaison between /morig/ and West Holo for trade, Oppia becomes a much more important/active port by virtue of being the closest/only major port on the west coast of the island. Ergo, there probably would be a lot more prostitutes there than everywhere else.

>>21039367
Good to see you're in he game. Since you're giving repping a shot, the previous deal is currently voided.
I wasn't sure how self sufficient /rbc/ was based on the lore, which is why I offered to build the port. This would be advantageous since to you due to the ice build up in the winter. I apologize because I was under the impression the map was settled, but it looks like it's being voted on right now.

At the very least, I'd like to offer a formal alliance and trading deals between /∞/ and /rbc/.

>>21043653
infinity protecc us at least. and we can defend ourselves at least we just have 0 offensive capability. But oh boy do we have a massive home field advantage

>>21043784
soiled doves...

>>21043547
If war comes to /risu/, /∞/ will protect its ally.
The Central Fleet isn't just for show

>>21043919
You ought to let /rbc/ establish themselves first before you pursue diplomacy with them, don't want them to get overwhelmed. Feels like that would be a logistical pain too.

>>21044118
It's why I made the original offer where if they just want to write lore but not deal want to deal with the logistics,. And if they then want to handle the administrative side later, they can go into that.
We're just here to offer a helping hand in any way, either it be helping run the country, to just being a good ally/trade partner.

>>21039367
And I hope you feel better, and take your time, there isn't a rush and no pressure to make choices immediately.

>>21044439
>helping run the country

>frogs
Come on now.

>>21043784
>actually starting a deadbeat nasfaqg gf business

Any /nasfaqg/ merchants here. I need help developing a local currency for /nasa/ based on "fuel credits". Since /nasa/ uses energy for just about everything in the station from food processing to communication I was wondering if we can base the currency of availability of fuel. Fuel credits would have a cap on availability. And fuel credits can also be exchanged for gold and silver. The credits would be limited to /nasa/ natives because credits are a cryptocurrency. I understand there will be problems when gold and silver becomes the dominant trade commodity to buy foreign goods with. And there is a problem if we let everyone dump fuel credits to but gold. There will be limits on buying gold and silver withdrawals via minting coins. /nasa/ will engrave coins with a print design as part of the exchange fee expending fuel. This is just an idea. Thoughts?

>>21044911
>need cute cryptofag fembeat gf

>>21045133
We have a couple very cute ones over here in the serene republic

>>21043784
boobeats

>>21039367
/nasa/ has instant ramen bowls. All you need to do is add boiling water, cover, and let sit for a few minutes.

>>21045732
boo-beats?

>>21041783
alright, i'll let you guys sort out the syntax and words yourselves since you have your own conlangers

I think todays a good day to find out which wildlife risu has. I did mention we have an abundance of geese and bees would probably thrive in our environment so ill just say we get some beehives dotted around (and that we know how to extract/use beeswax and honey). Chickens i hear would be plentiful too but I'm not sure what other animal types would be present. And as far as rocks go I think i got the basics down but the one thing i would love to know is if /risu/ had gemstones of any kind.

>>21046050
Bugs. Lots of bugs. Also wild cats and civets, hawks, doggos, snakes, tree lizards, frogs etc. Also elephant birds can be tamed or domesticated like gentle giants. For plains/savannah animals you can have buffalo.

>>21046359
I was actually thinking about some sort of animal that would be the equivilant to a horse. Risuners would probably have those elephant birds as mounts if they could be tamed.

>>21046658
Horses would be better in the plains. Risuners could have lighter bodies to ride elephant birds.

>>21046927
I think with their crazy athletics, how hard they work to collect nuts/food and their near vegan diet risuners would be pretty damn slim. They certainly would be in shape thats for sure. i mean they do spend about 1-2 hours every day having sex which itself is an exercise if you think about it

>>21043357
I LOVE WAR

>>21045051
What purpose would you be trying to achieve with this currency? Is it for allocation of energy/fuel, or is it meant to serve as a more conventional currency (i.e. medium to avoid barter) that can potentially be exchanged for energy or fuel?
And by "cryptocurrency", what exactly do you mean? It sounds like you're trying to create a currency backed in a good, meaning that it is by definition not a cryptocurrency.

>>21048991
>/nasa/ brings incredible, civilization-changing space age technology to the world
>they use it to spread NFTs
Shit, I'm starting to agree with WARWARWARWARanon...

>>21035950
>>21035266
another /meat/head here
What if we culled any redundant sounding runes 'th' 'ð' and 'd' for example

>>21049392
We can cut down a few letters if people prefer a smaller list, but that's more an aesthetic choice than anything.

>>21049458
Functional more like it. Since 'th' and 'ð' are too similar that you could mix them up

>>21049577
Eh, there're more confusing examples IRL, so I won't worry too much about it. Still, I can trim down the table more if other /meat/heads prefer that.

>When you discover a book about pre-dimension split /jp/ era
https://youtu.be/rbfHY8mkhT8

>>21049392
we could but thats how old norse was and i think it works just fine. if you want learnability you can do whatever you want because i'm not a /meat/head, but i think purposefully making it easier is lame.

>>21049735
in-universe that would be very surreal
>what do you mean in the beginning there were no Holos?! what are the Big Five?!

>>21049822
oh and i cleaned up the runes. kept some of the unused ones around in case anyone likes it and/or we add more letters (doesn't seem likely now though lol)

>>21049906
i seriously need to do proofreading reps god damn, i sound ESL sometimes

Also, /meat/heads
What would our writing medium be?
Carving? Brush? Quill?
Personally I'd go for quill

>>21050057
carving is how you get corners like runes, things like kikinese i gave what i did for the script because it was written on leaves. for our purposes, carving makes sense, but since the evolution of the script doesn't mean how it's used now, i think quills work

>>21050129
Hmmm
In that case how about smoothen out the corners?
Since we also borrow nahuatl, those guys use brushes to draw pictograms, our writing would have lose its carved corners

>>21050057
Carving probably fits the style the best, with reed being a close second. Between the last two, though, I think quill would be better than brush since brush is worse when it comes to making sharp corners in writing.
I would say Nahuatl script probably will stay as liturgical writing, so they probably write with a different tool compared with the more vernacular conlang we have going.

>>21050299
i was thinking that too, but i hate pictograms so i avoided it. i can try and make a different version of the alphabet

>>21050496
We can probably just say we use Nahuatl as the clergy's language without elaborating on it, since the common tongue will be used in daily activities anyway.

Fun fact: israelites have a custom brush for writing YHVH in the torah because they treat the name as so holy, a regular tool feels insulting. Once the writing is done, that brush is considered damned and is to be destroyed

No fucking idea how this thought didnt occur to me earlier but if /risu/ were a good climate for them then we would definitely have squirrels and they would be considered a sacred animal. We would keep them as pets and not kill them for food.

>>21044801
>/inf/ antis are frog posters
Say no to normalfags /vtwbg/

>>21051582
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_giant_squirrel
Funny that you mentioned it...

>>21027357
Votes for /morig/:
https://rentry.org/u92px

>>21051913
>>21051582
Rafuca Indica
I feel like this is what Risuner priests/shamans look like

>>21006090
Hey /meat/anon, it makes basically no practical difference for our purposes, but for really rigorously perfect wrapping an equirectangular texture should have a 2:1 ratio, as in pic related.
This is pure autism and you can stick with the res you're using, just thought I'd let you know.

>>21053116
2:1 really is the ideal proportion, huh.

Thats a kino north pole

Do not die.

i want to make a conscript for /risu/

>>21060865
O RLY

>>21060980
it is going to be in exclusively cursive

/risu/ is like the baby of the thread who every hag general wants to spoil lol.

this was a pain in the ass to create without every letter looking the same (a lot of them still do despite this)

>>21061280
and yet we have probably the natives with the highest sex drive

>>21048991
I'm out of town. So this is a late response. The money is supposed to be used in a closed space station. Anything that uses electricity uses fuel. So the money should be there to let you use anything that uses fuel. At the same time the money is capped based on how much available fuel there is. If there's not enough fuel for luxury activities then there's the prices of those luxury activities raise in price. There's also the question of saving money and how it should be spent.

I've been thinking all day. Maybe the currency is just fiat that you use to buy things made with fuel. The less fuel there is the higher the price of goods and services. At the same time the more fuel you have the lower prices of goods and services are. This kind of system only works in /nasa/ station. As its meant to decide when to use fuel economically. The currency won't be traded outside of /nasa/. That's what gold and silver coins are for. We still have to figure out proper conversion rates for fuel credits vs copper, silver, and gold coins.

>>21063777
NTA, but from the sounds of it what you have are basically energy credits, a commodity-backed currency. Similar to gold-backed currency. That also means it's the exact opposite of fiat, where the value of the currency is set by some kind of central bank.
The conversion rate would be dictated by how much energy is valued. In a pre-electricity world, kW-h are kinda meaningless, so I guess there would have to be some kind of intermediate product that basically converts fuel energy into something the rest of the world would be willing to exchange for gold.

>>21061341
looks good

>>21064464
Fuel credits are only useful in /nasa/. They'd be useless in the rest of the world because there's no network to exchange credits with outside of p2p.

Yo /nasa/ I have a proposal
Look up "Technocracy INC"

bump

>>21071276
Ever heard of the "Revolt of the Scientists"?

The view from the /nasa/ station before it fell down...
Just messing around with procedural materials and /meat/anon's WIP map, I know there aren't random patches of desert sprinkled all over the place kek.

>>21076314
Speaking of beautiful things, I wrote something for /meat/ again: https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatdraft
It was originally meant to be part of the resource doc, but it (again) expands far beyond the intended scope.

Guys
I had the dumbest epiphany
You wanna know the best example of fantasypunk media where fantastic elements are used to mimic contemporary modern concepts and technology?
Shrek

/nasa/ station launch soon. Either tomorrow or Sunday. Depends on how distracted I get from Kirby. Any other things in /nasa/ anyone would be interested in? I'll see what's possible to make and trade.

>>21078328
Ah this granular societal detail, that's what worldbuilding was made for. It's nice to see you're getting use out of that conlang, really adds to it. Just to set the scene, what does a sacrificial altar look like? Are you going for Aztec influences there too?

>>21080568
It's actually just (Classical) Nahuatl, although I imagine these terms will be part of the conlang lexicon too
When it comes to human sacrifice, I don't think other cultures can really top the Aztecs when it comes to making a grand show out of it, so it'll probably be similar to what Aztecs have.
So far, the only time a sacrificial altar has been shown is in the Goddess story, which suggests it is at the top of an elevated platform. Given the nature of the sacrifice, the altar used in this case will probably be some kind of slabs or platform with shackles attached. The default state is probably horizontal, but I imagine it might be on a rack or something that allow it to be stood up and rotate for better views.
That said, the Aztecs have multiple forms of sacrifice, not just the "cut out the heart on top of a temple" variant, so I imagine /meat/ has all kinds of sacrifice and associated place/tools as well. The one used in the Goddess story is probably similar to death by a thousand cuts, which lengthens the process as long as the victim can mentally keep it together. The precision probably requires a pretty high level of skills too, and leads to the least amount of wasted products due to how valuable it is.

>>21081119
This makes me think of the Aztec sport (tachli?) where in special occasions one or some players of the losing team were sacrificed. That would make soccer way more exciting.
From the point of view of /meat/heads, do they see deiphagy as a great honor to the god being sacrificed, as it would be when they go through the ritual for their own goddess? Or is it an expression of the dominance of their faith over others?
I got around to reading the Goddess entry too, Rushia was really kind of a good fit for this, in a strange way. A nice, horrifying read.

>>21082470
Deiphagy is less of an honorable thing and more of a necessary evil for the greater good
/meat/ is an example of indie extremism
The society believe that nigh-immortal super gods (big corpo chuubas) are throwing the balance of the heavenly realm off. Especially nijisanji constantly vomiting out new chuubas.
When there are too many corpo chuubas, the inevitable collapse/crash will happen
/meat/ believes in culling/sacrificing these supergods so that less powerful indies take their place

>>21083321
Interesting, that clears it up. So Deiphagy wouldn't be done with sacrifices from the indie lands, or at least not the ones with smaller /#/s?

If /vt/ land ever have a political compass
X-Axis would be Chuuba-Affiliation. Solo indie -> Indie circle -> small corpo -> megacorpo
Y-Axis would be relationship with other communities and itself. Exclusive -> Individualist -> Communal -> Unity
Exclusives care only about their Affiliation only and despises everyone else. (indie thread, KSON, meat)
Individualists care only about their Affiliation but tolerate other vtubers affiliated with them (Gura thread only talks about Gura but mentions the myths, infinity would lewd other holos too)
Communalists care about their Affiliation and their close contacts/colleagues, but tolerate those from other groups (VSPO, Large Indies, WVT)
Unity is self explanatory (VOMS is always friendly to everyone, writing thread, horni)
>Examples
VOMS thread: Medium Indie Circle - Max Unity
/meat/: Max Indie Circle - Max Exclusive
/ggg/: Low Megacorp - Max Individualism
/infinity/: Max Megacorp - Max Communalist

>>21084578
I feel like I misunderstand your ranking system if /ggg/, the biggest corpo chuuba in the world's thread ends up in Low Megacorp.
But I like the idea, could try to put that together.

>>21082470
I actually wrote something similar to the mesoamerican ballgame in the lore: https://rentry.org/meatloaf#ballgame
It's likely to be a common event during major festivals, and some players do get sacrificed. The difference is that in /meat/, the sacrifice is done to players who got too injured to recover, rather than simply being on the winning/losing team. We probably don't rig matches just to get the losing side killed either.
Regarding deiphagy, it isn't really something dedicated to the god in question per se. Basically like what >>21083321 said, /meat/ believes the imbalance of the cycle of life caused by immortal, stagnant gods will eventually cause the apocalypse, and deiphagy is the preferred way to return the essence held by these gods back to the cycle. The rituals are meant to be a way to channel a fraction of the god's essence into the wentli, so theoretically, if this process is done enough times, the chuuba god in question will get killed and eaten, returning to the cycle of life in the process.
As such, it isn't exactly about honour or dominance, but an attempt to save the world by restoring the balance before the whole thing collapses under its own weight. That said, wentli and some awiyani do receive a healthy amount of reverence due to the vital roles they play in the rituals, even if they aren't necessarily willing. Willing ones, though, likely get a lot of respect, and are honoured for their willingness to pay the ultimate price for the sake of the world (regardless of their actual intention).

>>21083926
Not really, indies have a high turnover rate so they get sacrificed often.
But /meat/ society rarely celebrate it. If a 2view retires /meat/ feels more somber than joy.
While they won't enjoy it, a retirement is a retirement, and a sacrifice must be done in their name.
The death of a 2view wont do anything to stop the collapse. It would just prolong it.
/#/ doesnt matter. As long as they are immortal (corpo)
We are currently waiting for any of the vshojos to slip up

>>21083926
/meat/ definitely prefers eating big corpro chuuba who they consider to be around too long and has gone stagnant, and so probably won't actively seek out small indie wentli for deiphagy. If they do stumble upon someone who really want to get eaten that way, though...
Dead (graduated/disappeared/terminated etc.) chuuba gods are always eaten if possible, because deiphagy is seen as an effective way to keep the life force/blood circulating the cycle, so even if the dead indie is deemed "not their time yet", /meat/ will still eat them lest the life force get consumed by the big ones instead.

>>21084578
i wouldn't say we are exclusive. we make friends with everyone we can, we just want there to be turnover in the heavenly realm. it's about the life cycle really. indies tend to have a shorter lifespan and less power to throw the life cycle out of balance compared to big corpo ones, so we don't need to focus as much on culling the indies who for the most part respect the cycle

I like Sana. Even though she's corpo she feels like a 2view compared to other Hololive members. That said rrats think either Sana or Calli will probably be the first EN graduating. Hope they stick around for a while though.

>>21086061
Hmmm... Low Megacorp level?
Powerful pantheon but low impact

>>21086061
Sana won't graduate so don't worry about it, but also
>Calli

>>21085735
Through. We did discuss about other chuubas but mostly in a ryona-guro context

>>21086450
Why did I typed through instead of 'true' what is wrong with my rain

>>21084578
>mfw /meat/ might well be maximum unity since all chuuba are to be made equal on the altar

captcha: MAX8D

>>21086807
Max unity 8D

>>21085009
>>21085660
>>21085665
Thanks for the tidbitss, I'll have to go through the rest of the /meat/ lore, they're fun.

>>21086435
Just going from the rrats I read. Rrats are full of shit most of the time. Except /rrat/, they're the best. Subterra monks are amazing friends telling us about the world's history. I hope /rrat/ monk comes back. We have pancakes.

Also Calli and Sana are fun together. So I want more Calli and Sana.

>>21084578
Alright, give me threads to add with their coordinates and colors. Also, whether you disagree with the placement of anything on there.

We should start sending out more invites
But ones with a tldr explanation
1. Turn your thread and its ritual-culture into actual culture
2. No it's not larp
3. No vtuber leader unless theyre actually /here/ and calling the shots like /pyon/
for example

>>21087834
What even is larp in this context? Seems overly defensive.

>>21088071
It's not larp, since it's not real life, you see.

>>21088132
Yeah, but that seems too self-evident to need to be specified. Is that a common misconception? kek

Since Sana is streaming a little bit now how would her broadcast signals affect the underground chuubanite?

>>21088176
some guy came in here and accused an /inf/ diplomat of engaging in a larp, that larp being this thread.

>>21088608
Right. Imo referring to that in an invite post gives too much mindspace to some shitposter.

>>21088652
agreed. i'm not >>21087834

>>21087773
Tfw we will have ideas like 'Esoteric Indie' believing that independent deities should be able to master the heavens through unorthodox knowledge

>>21088608
When did this happen?

>>21088550
Definitely.
The strength of Vtubium and its various forms is dependent on the influence of a chuuba.
Streaming, community interactions, regular videos, MVs, other multimedia projects etc ensures steady power flow.
A chuuba that streams a lot but have low impact (twitch westies) have diminishing vtubium, and chuubas that do not stream but have other multimedia projects or still revered by their communities (Tsugu/Coco) have strong vtubium

>>21089020
Addendum
Only if they are discussed and have a niche on /vt/
Vtweeters are not mentioned nor revered once on /vt/ so their vtubium presence is nil

>>21089020
So does power go both ways? How would you rate vitubium for Sanalites?

>>21089162
In terms of streams and subs, Sana is not that high
But she still has a lot of followers and influence (art etc)
Plus the followers are loyal and eager to hear her again
So her vtubium is still strong

I just remembered an important rule of the internet, telling people they're wrong is way more fun than contributing. So I'm gonna start placing the threads wrong and hopefully people who actually go there can correct it.

>>21089213
Don't forget about the Mozzie schizo imposters who wish to seek Sana's destruction.

>>21088608
The sweet irony is for whatever /infinity/ is doing, they've managed to recruit two new splits to this game.

>>21089329
>So I'm gonna start placing the threads wrong

/hlg/ Scientists, Wizards, and Priests testing various Vtubium
>Sample 1
- 50kg of Solid Chuubanite form
Affiliation: Kamiko Kana
Test result: Low to diminishing power. Fluctuations in output. Unstable physical properties as the mineral crumbles on drainage.
Addendum: "Who the fuck uses this?" - Dr. Konoe

>Sample 2
- 1 test tube containing 10ml of 1 mol pure Liquid Chuubaflow
Affiliation: Hatoba Tsugu
Test result: Consistently high output. Noticeable magical anomalies present in testing. However sample drains at a high rate.
Addendum: "Powerful. But fragile. Plus you can't find it anywhere these days." - Dr. Will

>Sample 3
- 1 vial of 0.001 mol of pure Chuubagas at 1 ATM
Affiliation: Kizuna Ai
Test result: [DATA EXPUNGED]
Addendum: "Yo what the fuck?!" - [REDACTED]

>>21089329
Now to actually respond. /morig/ is acutally pretty close to where I think it is but it needs to be farther down the line of unity. Its one of the biggest unity splits. Where on a good day you can find us talking about all of EN streams and even some jp streams. Hell even indies get discussed there

>>21089329
>>21087773
How about moving the labels within the compass at fixed length? The current design is giving me headaches

>>21089758
I like that rarer chuubas are more difficult to contain. Big Five being gas makes sense

>>21089758
Impressive. Very nice.
Now let's see 1 ton of Zentreya

>>21089983
you joke but zen still has a following so it has power

>>21089758
>Sample 4
- 1 Nanogram of 0.000001 mol of Plasma Chuubagas
Affiliation: Eilene
Test result: [DATA EXPUNGED]
Addendum: According to researchers in a nearby laboratory (100km) from the testing site, a group of Jannies simultaneously appeared above the building.

>>21090170
>Eilene
How would you even get that? That's /jp/-era ur-vtuber vtubium.

>>21090170
>nanograms of moles
Anon, your science reps...
>>21089744
Well, I'm trying my best, but I haven't been to the delta thread in half a year, so my take my be out of date.
>>21089839
Got it.
>>21089883
This better? Making em all wide enough to fit the largest general names wastes a lot of space and doesn't look pleasant either.

>>21090498
forgot pic

>>21090498
I havent done chemistry calculations for 5 years
My knowledge is rusty
>>21090538
Can you provide me with a blank? I have an idea to make categorization cleaner

>>21090596
Sure, here you go.

>>21090682
Here
Each word has a 4x4 area around it. Minimum and maximum

>>21091731
Oh, I misunderstood what anon meant. Yeah, that's nicer looking.

>>21091905
Irystocrats hate other chuubas?

>>21092250
I wouldn't say that, but they sure as hell don't wanna discuss them in their general.

>>21092250
Their thread seems to be for Irys discussion alone. Luna's thread is similar though they don't mind discussion of other chubbas so long as its about their relationship with Luna.

>>21091905
tfw the ryona cannibals are friendly with everyone

>>21079614
anon stop. it is too early for this knowledge, the world isnt ready

>>21093653
>>21079614
>Potion factory
>Chariot drive-thru
>Cameras
>Magic mirror tv
No... no! Noooo!!

>>21091905
/nasfaqg/ should be below morig and more left than /nasa/

>>21094912
Oh right, the market does have a handful of non holo coins.

>>21094992
Even small corpo ones?

>>21095521
There's a few Holomoms in there.

>>21095610
Ahh

Trying to figure out where I'd put /rbc/, on one hand the general is literally just "omg cute robot/cat" she might be the only holo with more non-holo collabs than holo collabs.

>>21096013
Also the fact that she's a veteran with anons from the /jp/ era
Medium megacorpo & high unity?

Fuck I just noticed another similarity between worldbuilding and board culture
Making splits = decentralization

>>21096013
>>21096783
Let's go for that.

So, unityfags are the Marxists of this world?
"no more tribalism! we must accept each other! abolish tribe mentality"

>>21098286
Marxist is a lot more specific, Unity is just egalitarianism.

>>21098351
Well marxism also wanted to abolish nationalism and borders on a world scale.
In /vt/ sense it would be abolishing Holo only, Niji only threads. No more generals dedicated to one chuuba/company

>>21097722
>our thread still isn't on there
You'll never get us /pol/iceman!

>>21097722
risu doko?

>>21049458
You could get rid of the c and the v, they have no sound unique to them.

>>21090170
Do people still align with Eilene?

>>21098523
Unity can also be interpreted as letting everyone create threads about whomever they like without conflicts of interest or a sense of rivalry, which you might equate to more individualist forms of anarchism. Like the other anon said, unity is more like egalitarianism - broader than one ideology.

Good evening. Is the OGsuner here?

>>21101683
>>21098523
Different cultures would also have different ideas of Unity. Maybe to /hlgg/ it means freedom to discuss any Holo any time, but to infinity it means to *sexpost* any Holo *when relevant*.

>>21104114
You called?

>>21104287
Heya!
I was told you wanted to flesh out our deal with the road building and naval construction? Infinity is happy to help.

>>21104416
Oh yes i was wondering about a few details. So from my understanding you guys are gonna have the road of course. And I believe you all wanted a port on each side that you would be able to use alongside /risu/ that would go right next to them? Just the details about what exactly is right next to the ends of the roads so my map can be accurate

>>21104734
Yes! A port on the east end of the road, and a port on the west end. We'd also like to set up a checkpoint in the middle, from which the southward road to /mep/ would start. The ports and checkpoint would be manned and guarded by Kronies, but Risuners would likely set up settlements and maybe even markets at those locations.

I love you dorks so much
Risu thread being the overexcited little sibling
Nasfaqg taking their ideology seriously
And meat getting along with everyone despite being the most edgy of us

>>21105206
It's great honestly. Most fun OC thing on /vt/ since the board came to be

>>21105078
Ah alright makes sense. I do remember talk about the checkpoint as well. And yeah risuners would definitely set up places at each port, it only makes sense to. Oh and of course once the road is done we are expecting you to teach us how to make these nice big wooden boats for ourselves.

>>21105419
Of course! We'll be happy to teach you and get you up to speed on modern naval construction. You'll be cruising in galleons in no time.

>>2110587
Why thank you. We would of course be calling them pinisi and they might look a little different (pic related) but were so excited. Oh and since your gonna be chopping down a lot of trees naturally there will be a lot of wood to use. I assume this will be the stuff you use for each port? This way you dont need to import resources since theres going to be a lot anyway. Were gonna be saving some for our boats of course. OH one more thing i think /meat/ was interested in helping out? You should talk to them about it. They promised us the gift of teaching us how to extract bog metal so we have fancy metal tools.

>>21105872
OGsuner
Kek. forgot to tag correctly and put a pretty risu pic. Fuck it heres kroniis butt

>>21106631
>>21106906
That's great to hear. Yes, we'll be using the wood for the ports but fortifications will likely be with stone or even steel from Infinity. And it'd be awesome if /meat/ wants to help. Currently though we have a trade deal with you for metal tools for your magic nuts.

Also, damn good pic. Love this artist.

>>21107198
Yes and we are super grateful for them. Theyre way better than the stone ones we normally use. However not only do we like the idea of making things on our own but we also really want to be friends with /meat/. Sure they have a bad history with us in the past but were willing to forgive them if they can prove themselves. And teaching us to better ourselves with what we have would probably be for the best. Oh by the way. Do you know what makes those nuts magical?

>>21107832
/meat/ is, despite their controversy, very good to have as friends. They've been very good contractual employees, that's for sure. Giving them a chance is a good idea.
> you know what makes those nuts magical?
Unfortunately I am backlogged on lore. What makes it magical? Is it cum...

>>21108006
HAHAHA actually its our nut tribute. Surely we told you about it. We give all our nuts to our goddess once a year as she comes to all the villages to collect from everyone then she blesses the land, giving it and all plants, trees, and yes our nuts magical taste. Its also why if you want to take them just beware the magical effect will only last about a year. If you intend to keep them longer than that they wont work.

>>21108534
It's okay if they aren't magical outside /risu/, they are still 'magical nuts from the exotic land of risu' when we sell it at our markets... ;D

>>21108534
Oh, I think I remember this now that you mention it. I remember thinking it was cool you incorporated Risu visiting, considering the rrats that she's /here/ and has been so since /jp/

Good to know lore!

>>21108750
This always confused me. Why do you sell money? Oh wait thats right you dont use nuts for money apparantely thats a thing that only we do. It must seem silly to outsiders that we exchange nuts as currency.
>>21108800
Yes! It funny enough is also in one of her NNN videos called The nut tale. Funny how it fits so perfectly

OH I JUST REMEMEBERED I STILL NEED GEMSTONES!!! I wish i frickin knew how to tell which gemstones would be available since they would be used for cultural shit and some alchemy here and there. I know in indonesia there is this unique one called grape agate.

>>21109850
One of the meat contributors is good at resource analysis iirc. He might be able to tell you what gemstones you got

>>21105206
>general for ryona and guro chuubas
>actual greentexts and discussion about severing and disemboweling chuubas
>watch streams with extreme contents like abuse, alcohol enema, playing minecraft with razors inside vagina, and more
>friendliest project member and most dedicated
What bizarro world is this

>>21090464
Get portal to /jp/
Visit antediluvian vtuber civilization archeological sites
Harvest proto-vtubium
return home
You now have the vtubium equivalent of anti-matter at your disposal

>>21109939
Aww sweet. I dont know shit about them but with the magical power of /risu/ we could do a lot of crazy cool shit with them. For some reason crystals are used in all the sci fi things (Goa'uld starships for example) and seeing wizards with a staff with a gem at the end is iconic. Im such a nerd and i love it

>>21109939
Not in the geology department, unfortunately. I think someone else in this thread is more knowledgeable in that regard.

>>21107198
Yeah, a while ago I mentioned about helping with the road project. I'm not too sure about /meat/ being a source of cheap/reliable labour (which was originally mentioned), but I think /meat/ might be more suited for providing help regarding building roads through a (seasonal) tropical forest - /risu/ knows their homeland well, but I don't think they have a lot of infrastructure experience, while /infinity/ seems quite skilled in construction projects but I don't imagine them being very adjusted to the tropical environment. /meat/ lives in a similar enough environment while having already built quite a lot of stuff at their home should mean they can provide the expertise.
/meat/ has also promised to help /risu/ in terms of getting them up to speed with the whole metal thing, as mentioned in >>21107832. Having tools from /inf/ to help kickstart it will definitely help as well. The idea's that we'll be teaching /risu/ how to find and use bog iron, and once they have enough domestic tools to make better ironsmiths and forges, we can probably get more iron and other metal from the laterite soil (I still can't find how people get iron from that IRL, but I assume it's doable). We also talked about helping /risu/ with ships and sailors while they're building their first seafaring ships.

>>21109991
It's probably safe to say /meat/'s one of the least judgemental threads in this board because of the kind of shit we're already into, so that probably plays a role.

>>21111078
and last thing i wanted to add is of course since you guys will be doing the manual labor we will provide food and drinks for you all (expect a lot of nuts). And yeah our boats will be pinisi.

>>21112093
i had a stroke reading your text because i thought you said 'our beats will be penis'

>>21112093
/meat/'s willing to help with manual labour (nuts are good), although I don't think they'll be inherently better than other labour sources. For boats, /meat/ ship design and rig is reasonably similar to pinisi, so I think /meat/ seamanship should translate well enough to risuner mariners. /meat/'s also up for selling old /meat/ ships to /risu/ at a discounted price should /risu/ need some foreign ships to help supplement its fleet before the shipbuilding industry is fully established.

>>21112191
That's a freudian slip and a half.

>>21112331
By the way. If there are any people of ours captured still alive we demand them back immediately. If not then we understand.

>>21112994
I don't think we have any living risuners in captivity, because in general /meat/ captives don't live very long (a year or two is probably the upper limit for most). Another factor's that /meat/ raiding has not been as significant in this century compared with before due to /morig/'s fleet kicking our arse, and /risu/'s position probably makes it unfavourable as recent raid targets. Unless you would like to write stories about past raiders meeting risuners again, I suppose

>>21113229
nah its all good. im not that good at story writing and the only story i tried to write i wrote in a bit of a rush and it didnt make logical sense. welp everything i need is good for now besides the gemstones. Anything you all need from me?

>>21113229
Fortunately we have a more subtle alternative to raiding now...
Elite cultists organising trafficking rings
"Baron Bellman, the ship was not in any of our records! 120 people went aboard it! We need to find out where it came from and where it's taking our people!"
"That won't be necessary, Admiral. The ship is expected to dock around Gurantlantis for supplies. The fishmen will help us in our investigation."
"Alright. I'm trusting your judgement. Good evening, sir. For Ina! WAH!"
"Good evening, admiral. For Ina..."
....
"...Hail Akira"

>>21113476
Speaking of resource, is /risu/ interested in importing anything from /meat/?
Here's the overview of what we have in stock, with a tl;dr list at the bottom: https://rentry.org/deiphagymining

For gemstone, I've been trying to look into it, but unfortunately I'm pretty unsure about it. Given /risu/'s geology, I'm guessing its precious stones will be mostly silica-based, so things like agate, flint, grape agate (which is apparently not actually agate), amethyst, citrine, and rose quartz should be present. It should also have a decent amount of feldspar of amphibole type, but I can't find much about what kind of gemstones they're associated with. I hope this can help for the moment before geoanon comes to help us.

>>21113585
>still cunny

>>21113715
I love that greentext
>be /ggg/ sailor
>your hometown just got raided last week
>your sister abducted by /meat/ vikings
>demanded the admiralty to execute a counter attack and intercept their party while they're en-route home
>local duke says it's nothing of concern as they already have the situation under control
>says the merchant guild insists on investing development in raiding hotspots even when it'll be a long-term loss
>suspicious of his decision, you decided to investigate into your superiors
>discovers duke's personal prayers room
>shockingly the icon on his altar isn't that of the shark goddess, instead it's a gruesome pink haired being with blood-shot eyes
>still cunny tho
>found a ledger detailing departure and arrival of civilian transport ships
>being a sailor you were able to notice discrepancies
>ships are leaving during dead hours, skeleton crews thrice the size than usual, ports that are not part of the official migration route
>and most shocking of all, their dates coincide with raids
>this was a list of trafficking vessels
>human trafficking
>you try to flee the duke's chambers to find him waiting for you at the door
>dagger in hand, adorned with holy sigils of /meat/

>>21113715
kudos on that resource list /meat/head. i gotta do something like that for infinity sometime...

>>21113715
I SEE YOU HAVE NUTS!? We shall perform the exchange of nuts as is the core of our culture. We would be very interested in your foreign nuts especially if theyre some that we cannot grow ourselves or currently dont have.

>>21114174
/meat/ should be fairly abundant with groundnuts, also known as peanuts, if that's something /risu/ consider to be nuts. Other possible nut-like edibles include Brazil nut and possibly cashew nut. If you like, we can certainly exchange our nuts!
I think /risu/ might not have these for now (since I use a mostly neotropical ecosystem for /meat/, while /risu/ is probably more Indomalayan), but given the similar climate, growing them natively shouldn't be too difficult. Like many plants from /meat/, the nuts likely will contain /meat/ chuubanite, which likely has the effect of speeding up healing and regeneration, so it could have some medical use if needed.

>>21114730
Even if we cant grow them ourselves we can always just let you give them to us for the unique nuts we have.

>>21115415
The magic of division of labour and specialisation

Is /meat/'s society dominated by one gender or equal?
Having bloodthirsty female vikings and priestesses sounds kino

>>21116686
A very old greentext mentioned /meat/ being patriarchal, but I'm not sure if it's still canon, and personally I feel the argument offered there is fairly weak.
Personally I like to think it's fairly egalitarian - priestesses are known to be a thing in /meat/, and if we assume Mai's blessing works on females too (and it should - Mai's female, after all), then there'll be female vikings too. They can probably get high and go berserk as well.

/meat/head here
My personal canon is that the intelligentsia class citizens are fairly equal. Females are allowed to be diplomats, clergies, commanders.
The working class citizens lean towards male-preference because of the need for hardy biology. Soldiers, farmers, fishermen, are male dominated. Due to this balance of power, if any female from the working class wants to become relevant, becoming a doctor or priestess in the intelligentsia districts is their only way out.
As for example, during a raid, the vikingr themselves are male dominated, while the admiral in charge could be from either gender.
In any architectural projects, the managers could be female leading a male dominated workforce.
Then we have the slaves. We literally have female slaves turned into pleasure machines and male slaves drugged to become beef.

>>21118564
I kind of question the idea that the raiders would be male-dominated. While I don't feel like getting into the argument on whether female soldiers is a good idea or not, /meat/'s selection of raiders is based more on whether someone has Mai's blessing and can handle the physical and mental stress of making use of it. So, if we assume that Mai's blessing is manifested about equally between the genders, then the gender distribution in professional soldiery should be about equal as well. The combination of drugs and veterancy should be sufficient in offsetting any physical shortcomings that might be present in the female raiders.
As for fishing, from what I can find, fishers are mostly male, although if you include the rest of the fishing industry and other means of harvesting from the sea, the male-to-female ratio is less unbalanced, so that might be the case for /meat/ too.
Personally, I don't know if jobs should be limited by gender, or just have a more natural gender preference without explicitly banning either of them. Existing stories shows the clergy have both genders, after all.
As for slaves, pleasure machines don't necessarily have to be female, nor meat from male only...

>>21119668
>spoiler
Ah, the greek approach!

>>21118564
OGsuner here.
Fuck it. Im gonna check out your oshi.

>>21043357
Ok waranon. Tell me since you want war. Who shall be victorious in this war? Someone has to come out on top so what side are you rooting for exactly?

>>21101139
I love your oshi and you guys here, but to be honest I've never been in the thread. How's this look?

>>21124313
good enough for me

>>21122141
I do not care who is victorious
I do not pick sides
I just need WAR

>>21125476
Based, WARanon is a true unityfag.

>>21043357
Waranon is this from Tyranny ?

>>21125717
fallout new vegas.

Oh look
It's us. All of us

>>21127365
Well, not all. There's also /#/.

So if /nasa/ were to visit KFP then which foods should we try? I hear KFP has the best cousine in the land.

>>21132932
They say that the chicken tights are pretty delicious.

>>21124313
/KFP/ is obviously neutral Megacorp

>>21132932
obviously fried chicken. what type is up to preference however

>>21132932
>which foods should we try
The KFPs themselves

"Hey I think /who/ is militarizing"
"What makes you say so?"
"Take a listen across their radio"
https://youtu.be/2FYHv_xt58g
https://youtu.be/YO3-_fdOSUs

>>21137689
>>21136384
>>21135614
Do they have fried chicken sandwiches?

Bump

Visual for a first-rate /morig/ Black Fleet vessel, My Mori's Ship Flashing Sword.
We don't have a lot of those, as they are incredibly expensive to build, but they combine firepower, robustness and handling. The main inspiration are ships-of-the-line, but with a lower hull (less weight and more speed, but easier to board), mixed rigging, and bronze-clad hull for anti-fouling and some mild protection against projectiles and ramming.
Also a sick skull at the front to make good PR paintings.
The chuuni-ness is self aware, seems like a good fit for a deadbeat ship

>>21143776
Looking good. Embracing chuuni is honestly usually a good idea, it leads to cool shit like this. There were some chuuni as shit navies and militaries did in the 1700s

>>21027263
>>21143776
Anchor onegai https://rentry.org/uegq2
>>21143999
Thanks! Yeah, honestly I haven't found one but I'm certain there was an Age of Sail ship with a spooky skeleton figurehead at some point, they loved that shit. also, checked.

/nasa/ Station launch is tomorrow. Before launch I advise visitors to follow the guides' instructions to take shelter in bunkers in case something goes wrong.

>>21144206
Somw ships had women or spirits / pagan gods on their ship's bow, a skeleton isn't that farfetched. I'm pretty sure they did that for at least one Pirates of the Caribbean movie kek
>>21144280
Godspeed, spaceman

>>21144280
Gambare sanallites. Deadbeat academics will point their telescopes to the stars to catch the orbiter passing above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_G7Haf1aOI

I wandered in.

I wandered in because I’m weak.

But I can prove myself to be strong.

They cast me out. They called me brittle. But I can show them. I’ll go and meet her myself, and she’ll prove them all wrong for me.

It’s quiet, but it’s never been so loud. My heart. The birds. Every touch of my boot underfoot scattering the brush beneath. The brush, so much. I can barely see.

It’s dark, but my path is so bright. Because I can already see her, welcoming me, holding me in her arms.

It sparkles like a flame. It spins my head around, like she’s cradling me.

The lines between senses blurring, intangible borders obscured by intangible fog. I don’t need them.

I want to see her. I want to see her. I want to see her. I want to see her.

>>21144523
I hate to disappoint you but we're not ready for orbit. What you can see is the station lift off into the sky then slowly fall back to earth.

>>21144523
Well, we call it launch, but it's really more of a bounce. At most we will be able to achieve a few 100m of height. This is just to move our station out of the crater we have been stuck in for the last half a year and place it upright.

>>21144627
>>21144641
It's fine, those sailors translated those exotic stories all wrong, and now those academics will crane their necks up for no reason kek.

>>21144621
Reminder that unauthorized entry to the Underworld is illegal! Stay vigilant, deadbeats!

>>21144621
Another deadbeat lost to the Underworld... Hopefully a priestess finds him before he's completely lost it and deals the appropriate punishment.

As an architect, I worry that we could potentially come into conflict with /meat/ due to our ideologies being somewhat juxtaposed to each other for why would any self respecting architect give the product of his diligent craftsmanship away for mere material gain?

After launch /nasa/ is going to celibrate with a launch party. So we're not going to get any business deals done tomorrow. We'll celebrate with a buffet of breads, meat, pies, cakes, and booze. There will be dancing, music, and video game tournaments. Visitors are welcome to the party. /who/, /rrat/, /rbc/ are invited since they're on the border. But other visitors can join festivities so long as they don't start a riot.

>>21145215
Nice.

>>21027357
From /who/
>1)
Yes.
>2)
D.
>3)
Next round.
>4)
No.

>>21145215
We are quite far, but we will joint your celebrations by drinking vodka made of bread: https://thespoon.tech/bread-to-booze-misadventure-distillery-makes-vodka-from-surplus-baked-goods/

>>21027357
For infinity
1. Yes
2. Abstain, I don't know this stuff well enough to say.
3. Next round
4. No, every culture wouldh ave their own word for it ideally

>>21145215
I also forgot to invite the /uuu/ druids if they care. They're invited too.

>>21027357
/wg/
>1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938 (Dead)?
Yes. Their justification makes sense and I see no reason to oppose the motion.
>2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 (Dead) and picrel.
D seems like the fairest option to me.
>3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
At a later date, I guess. Really it should probably be done on a case-by-case basis, with issues being put back on the ballot as soon as it makes sense to. If people are abstaining because the situation is unclear or changing then it may be best to wait and see how things develop. In other cases an immediate revote without abstaining may be all that is needed.
>4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
No. Now that we're seeing conlangs develop for different nations, it makes sense that the planet would be called different names by each. Some names may become more ubiquitous than others over time, but we may as well let that develop naturally as we go.

>>21145215
>>21145499
That reminds me, today is the one-year anniversary for /wg/ officially becoming the writing general. So I suppose that means the nation is having a big centennial festival today or whatever the irl time dilation ends up being. All of course are welcome to visit and join the festivities, especially if the trip is a bit more convenient for your location than sailing to /nasa/. Happy birthday /wg/, and congratulations /nasa/!

>>21145215
Deadbeats like to get down.

If the risuners are here I want to ask what would they feel if I revived my third chronicle of /Infinity/ in Risu that had smut on it. The problem is that it might add some "lore" that they might not like risuners emit pheromones through their anal glandes that cause sexual arousement. Can I have a yay or nay about writing and posting it here?

>>21119668
Mai-Chan’s blessing isn’t the only thing you need to get into the soldiery, nor is it even required. The elite is made up of the elite. Maybe women would do well as soldiers who defend the nation, but I doubt any of them would be in the elite soldiery who would go out on raids. Maybe they could. Someone with Mai-Chan’s blessing who is weak is a near infinite source of human resource If they have calories to convert into it, and act as a preservation system. I am fine with a meritocratic system, however. I made the spoilered text with Mai-Chan’s blessing. Someone else said it should be a patriarchy, so I worked with that, but it doesn’t actually matter to me

>>21147344
Not Risuner, but I think that could make some posters uncomfortable and veer very far off-topic. Not saying no, just saying that I have concerns about it.

>>21147548
Fair, that is why I scrapped it originally.

>>21027357
>>21145594
I'd like to change my vote for 2. to D

So that'd be
1. Yes
2. D
3. Next round
4. No

>>21145060
How do meat and morig ideologies differ?

>>21147344
OGsuner gonna say no to that one friend. Risuners just have a high sex drive is all.

>>21148358
Noted, then I did right to scrap it the first time. Good that I asked then.

>>21027263
Say I just noticed this, but it seems that in /who/'s lore archive the "Pantheon" section has the wrong image

>>21027263
I'd just like to endorse Gramps as Infinity's backup rep for when I'm gone, and I've given him permission to speak and vote on my behalf.

His trip is
>!np2UIvxwi.

I want to be clear that I will try to abstain to vote unless our rep is missing for a significant time. I'm all against power abusing, so you don't have to worry about a 'double command' problem here.

>>21149038
>>21149215
/inf/ civil war arc hype???

>>21149830
Nah Gramps is cool
Also in lore we are constantly in a civil war any way

>>21149830
I'm not menace. I'm basically the Hawkeye of the Infinity Avengers.

>>21149830
>>21150062
>>21150251
Not Gramps, just an /∞/ anon.
Archivebud was away and I wanted to make sure that if that happens again, /∞/ has someone else who can still rep for votes or any major events.
We're still unified and most of the schizo circle jerking is now done in a twitter chat room.

>>21150705
Do not speak ill of our friends in the GC...

>>21150783
>>21150705
Lets not invade vtwbg all at once kronies...

>>21147970
Deadbeats worship Death, whereas I'd say /meat/ worships sacrifice, that's the subtle difference. For /meat/, sacrifice (ending in death) is a means to an end, which is to restore balance to the Heavens. For Deadbeats, Death is the end, and you must meet the Death that Mori intends for you, with no regrets. No earlier, and no later at the expense of your values. A sacrifice leading to a premature death just for spectacle is one of the worst heresies we can imagine.
/meat/, feel free to correct me or elaborate on my simplification.

>>21150705
>>21150783
On one hand, I wish my thread was as active in /vtwbg/ as /inf/...
On the other hand, at what cost...

NO COST TOO GREAT.

>>21150783

>>21037610
I also think this is quite likely. You see, a blind pursue of profit and profit only would make /nasfaqg/ traders extremely untrustworthy most of the time otherwise, and thus "Soul" is also related to being able to keep promises, not out of external obligation, but because of internal standards. You are basically showing your immaculate strength by adhering to the rules you've created for yourself and made public.
>>21040923
Contracts would be worthless in the sense that they cannot be enforced by a third party - you don't have a "court" to take it to, or "enforcement" that could encroach it. "Soul" is a thing that quenches insatiable thirst for profit, what holds the traders back from becoming absolute monsters... although, of course, it should be noted that there are those who would succumb to seeing everything solely in a monetary value - such sad state would leave them oshi-less, too. Most merchants have at least some concept of "soul" - they support and believe in their oshi, and they usually honor the spirit of agreements they enter to.

>>21150251
>I'm basically the Hawkeye of the Infinity Avengers.
>>21150705
>twitter chat room

>>21151568
Namefags in infinity made a twitter GC but contrary to popular belief it doesn't seem to affect the thread activity. and Lal they do is sexpost 50% of the time

>>21150705
>>21151568
>twitter chat room.
actually, yeah, what the fuck?

>>21151693
>and all they do is sexpost 50% of the time
why the fuck do they need twitter when we do that here constantly

I mean shit nigger I didn't even know Twitter had chat rooms.

>>21151568
>>21151698
The first rule of the TGC is we don't talk about the TGC. That's a lie, we talk about it all the time, it has become a meme in our thread.

>>21151754
Can post NSFW without getting banned

I'm pretty sure another thread rep (I won't say who) is in that GC too.
>international sexposting cabal based in infinity

>>21151902
Wait, what. You have to tell us now, there could be conflict of interest.

>>21152106
>>21151902
>I won't say who
Fucking coward

>>21151693
>it's not THAT bad, we have an off-platform containment zone for them now
It's more the fact that such a thing was ever warranted in the first place. I really didn't expect learning more about /inf/ would cause me to think it's even weirder than I thought

>>21152211
Did you think us having an island just for schizo containment was a joke

>>21152211
>not knowing /inf/ schizos were not a well documented subgroup of /inf/
what do you have to say for yourself

>>21152211
It was created as a form of therapy to help extremely socially anxious Kronies make friends and be less menhera, basically /inf/'s House of Broken Clocks...take that for what you will

>>21152211
We are a merry bunch.

After close intimate inspection with the lovely women of /meat/, about 35 of them in a period of a year, here are my discoveries. Note, these are all natives, not a single slave was involved
>The average /meat/ female measures at around 150cm. Are these people phenotypically similar to /uoh/?
>Personality-wise, a majority are switches. Demanding to be abused, only to start whipping me once their fill is reached
>The average clitoris length of the women of /meat/ is 7cm
I hope this research may be helpful to my fellow clocks back home.
t. An overly excited Takeshi tourist

>>21157235
>Kronie went around impregnating /meat/ girls
oh no

>>21157235
>>21157452
I fear what the crossbreeds would look like

>>21157494
it'd be funny if they were oddly normal and vanilla

>>21157634
Takeshi-blood /meat/heads just want cuddles but indifferent to ryona/guro

Perhaps later generations of /nasa/ can mingle with the natives more. They'll have stronger immune systems and less allergies. That said prime directive prohibits us from mixing our genetic material with the natives to prevent messing with the world's evolution. I could see a revolt happening in the future because of this policy.

>>21027357
/meat/ vote

1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
Yes
2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 and picrel.
C
3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
Next round
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
No

>>21151067
/meat/ doesn't worship sacrifice, we worship the life cycle, which actually creates an even bigger distinction. the way i see it, it's like the difference between nurgle and tzeentch in terms of ideology and goals, except that both of us combine their philosophies in a different way. nurgle wants the universe to die and he wants his followers to learn to be content with their mortality, while also learning to cherish each moment they have alive, whereas tzeentch wants the universe to constantly change, and he wants his followers to constantly strive for something greater. at the same time, nurgle wants the universe to always be reborn, and offers his followers the opportunity to experience it, whereas tzeentch wants his schemes to be toppled, and offers his followers the ability to change the universe in a way that would satisfy them, though the eternal scheming means they would never be content with anything. from /meat/s perspective, you guys are kind of like the immortal chuuba's who try to escape the cycle through eternal life, but instead, you seek eternal death, like the buddhists who try to escape the samsara. we could never accept something like that. for us, there is always something more to suffer towards, and so being in a state of being completely content with the way things are, to the point where there is no longer any need to struggle onwards is almost an alien concept. as a result, we would likely thwart your attempts to achieve your goals of dying content by our mere existence, not that the universe wouldn't do plenty of that itself. we want everything to die, but we want everything to be reborn, and to suffer and change throughout the process, you guys want to be sure that a satisfactory conclusion will come at some point. we want an ever-evolving story that builds off itself indefinitely, while you want a happy ending to commemorate the journey traveled. that's at least my interpretation of it.

>>21027357
/nasa/ here casting a vote.

>1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
Yes
>2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386 and picrel.
D.
3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
Case by case basis if there needs to be more debate. Some bills have to be rewritten before they become law.
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
No. The word for the world will be in different languages.

I haven't thought too much about what /nasa/'s drive philosophy is. I'll need to discuss this with the thread. My idea for Sanalites is to follow Sana wherever she goes to seek truth in learning about the universe.

>>21147530
Now that you've mentioned it, given that we've kind of established /meat/ running on a meritocratic system, feels like that would be at odds with a gender segregation system (outside things that really require specific gender, like wentli likely has to match the gender of their gods, although personally I'm fine with mismatched gender as long as they otherwise look very similar). I'm not necessarily saying that every job should have the same amount of men and women working in that, but I think at least a noticeable portion of the soldiery (including the blessed ones) would likely be female.
As for Mai's blessing, personally my headcanon is that having the blessing and being able to endure the test (which "push one's body and mind to its absolute limit", presumably by testing the regeneration ability?), automatically allows you into the professional core. Of course, they still have to receive rigorous training to improve their martial prowess, but the value of the blessing itself, and the endurance to make use of it is, I think, significant enough to warrant their entry even if they aren't in shape (yet). Blessed ones as a source of meat would probably be those who fail the aforementioned test (so likely suffering from physiological and/or mental trauma) regardless of their gender.
That said, if we go for our mesoamerican inspiration (Norse seems to be somewhat more patriarchal) for what job would have more men or women, then the archetypical female job would be things that stay at home (or within city), including weaving, brewing, food preparation, healing, and crafting. Archetypical male job would be things that are more "outdoor", so things like farming, fishing (the act of harvesting itself - preparing nets and cooking the fish and such would be more female's job, and pearl diving might also be an exception given historical evidence elsewhere). Exceptions to the archetype is probably not too uncommon, and the clergy (and thus leadership) would likely be egalitarian, as are slaves on the other side of the decision-making totem pole. Some rituals might require specific gender to participate, like the deiphagy ritual mentioned above.

What are /meat/'s thoughts about Sana other than she's another corpo immortal?

New bread: >>21159260, vote in this thread will be counted, so you don't have to revote there.

>>21151291
>a blind pursue of profit and profit only would make /nasfaqg/ traders extremely untrustworthy most of the time
it's actually the opposite. the profit motive is consistent, you always know what your getting into, so you never have to doubt or second guess whether or not they will adhere to their word so long as you can make the act of doing what you want the prerquisit of them getting what they want. adding a "soul" to the equations what will make them completely untrustworthy, because you never know what their ethics are, and when they'll go back on their agreements, throwing away all pragmatic and rational thought all because they personally have a different idea of how things should be. you can trust the intelligence of someone who only ever cares about profit to be persuaded by your money, but you can never trust someone who would blindly lead the world down a path pathed with their best intentions. if you are stupid enough to get a reputation for being a scam artist, you deserve the inevitable consequence of being incapable of finding any customers who would put up with you.
>Contracts would be worthless in the sense that they cannot be enforced by a third party - you don't have a "court" to take it to, or "enforcement" that could encroach it.
the other guy said that, but desu, that isn't necessarily true. a free market can, and will develop court systems, and enforcement methods if there is profit in doing so, which i would argue there would be. even if we ignore the fact that private police agencies exist, and that private court systems arbitration agencies, rights enforcement agencies, etc. are becoming a popular idea among those who would advocate for it, "enforcement" doesn't need to follow it's typical definition. journalists and consumer reports get paid to provide information to their customers, and depending on the time period, it could take very little effort to compete in the industry. having a soul solves a non-problem by making other problems worse, kind of like government interference in the market. but that's just my two cents.

>>21158244
Thanks for the added info, the Tzeentch vs Nurgle analogy is a surprisingly good fit.
As is the Buddhist aspect, especially since we went for far eastern influences for our religious tradition.
I wonder who would fit best for Slaanesh and Khorne? There's a pretty wide selection of horny threads for Slaanesh, but more philosophically, she's the Aspect of excess. Khorne would is more difficult, since we haven't had that much war so far, kinda feels like /who/ would be a fit at times...

>>21159682
despite everything, we are very peaceful I can assure you.

>>21159371
she is better than the others due to being an M, but she is still a big corpo immortal that we will eat someday. she might be on the table soon, or maybe not. it would probably be difficult to do sacrifices on her due to the small population of sana-worshipers on /vt/ compared to the possibly billions of sanalites in Outerspace who might counterbalance our efforts, plus you guys are nice, and we benefit more be keeping peaceful relations with you. that's just my interpretation though. maybe others from /meat/ would have a different perspective.

>>21159963
/nasa/ understands we can't be friends with everybody. And when the time comes for us to fight then we will not back down. /nasa/ does want to be friends with as many nations as we can. There's more benefit with having friends than enemies. I just hope /morig/ and /meat/ conflict won't force us to pick a side.

>>21160227
i think of the typical outlook of people from /meat/ as being similar to nurgle followers. jolly people who want to share their religion to as many people as they can, who see their opponents as misguided family and friends who will hopefully one day learn the truth. /meat/ seems to be fairly indifferent/peaceful, even with /morig/ and other rivals, we aren't too judgmental, and we want everyone to be able to participate, and enjoy the cycle of life, but others might see some of our gifts as being undesirable, as while we see suffering as the opportunity to grow and change, and thus see it as a good thing, others see it as simply something to be avoided because it is bad. even if you distance yourselves from us, and even if you are ideologically opposed to us, we'll still offer you a hand if you want it. after all, our rivals offer us the opportunity to suffer, too, so it's all good ultimately. again, that's just my interpretation.