/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

stop making early threads dumb faggot

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>36,740: Subaru (Hololive)
>33,130: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,486: Marine (Hololive)
>20,223: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,614: Botan (Hololive)
>19,219: Miko (Hololive)
>18,410: Yozuna Niu (Neo Porte)
>18,036: Miko (Hololive)
>17,586: Gura (Hololive)
>17,364: Ange (Nijisanji)
>15,869: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,622: Ina (Hololive)
>13,003: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,642: Mio (Hololive)
>12,208: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,689: Mio (Hololive)
>11,557: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,246: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>11,214: Risu (Hololive)
>10,991: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>10,807: Towa (Hololive)
>10,262: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,201: Alban (Nijisanji)

Ah, peace

/#/ is declining.

>>20974598
SHUBASEX

why did you retards make TWO early threads what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>20974598
NEED TOMBOY GF

>>20975372
So if they fail that they collapse?
Yup, Nijinigger mentality.
Here's your reminder to not get uppity, vtubing is still a niche worldwide.

>>20975477
fuck you I made mine just as the thread was about to get kicked off

i think Fulgur deflecting to HoloID vs HoloJP is the biggest sign of ID's huge post-fes incline

>>20975557
You're not looking far enough ahead. The stagnating sub growth for most JP vtubers already don't paint a pretty picture and most of them haven't even hit 1 million subs. Myth alone prove that the worldwide market is a lot larger.

>>20975684
I don't see your point
EN already doing fine, main branch side branch do NOT matter

>>20975654
that's still early dumbass, i would've used it if you waited for page 11

>>20975743
EN is doing fine in spite of Cover's slow as molasses JP management calling the shots but they could be doing so much better. To properly cater to global tastes they need non-Japanese staff running the show and that means pivoting to the West and giving EN the investment it needs in proportion to the market size that they have.

>>20975743
it's literally nijiniggers and last samurai infected by nijiniggers mentality who think that hololive needs to be more like nijisanji, don't pay them much mind

>>20975826
kys

>>20975826
Well while that certainly will bring the number. Once again, Cover won't do it because of the "idol agency" identity they built
Idol as a niche does NOT work and cannot compete outside of Japan. as long as they still want to maintain that image, they will still stationed in JP

>>20975780
well it needs to be early enough to link in the previous thread so, no, it's not

>>20975838
Nijisanji made the deadly mistake of being too Japan-focused, which is why they're now a distant second to Hololive worldwide even with the moderately successful EN male waves. Even now they're still overly focused on Japan to the point that they dissolved their ID and KR branches. Cover moving its operations to the West would be them becoming less like Nijisanji, claiming otherwise is just delusional.

>>20975826
>>20975929
If targeting the west is a viable strategy for the vtuber market how come there is no western company managed by western management doing at very least as well as NijiEN?

>>20975965
no it fucking doesn't jesus christ, we went nearly a whole year waiting for it to die with no issues and now you room temp iq newfags can't even sort by creation date to find the new thread?

>>20976064
it's more convenient for me for archive diving purposes so suck it

>>20975965
>well it needs to be early enough to link in the previous thread
Why?

>>20976021
anon just because we don't talk about vshojo here because they stream on twtich doesn't mean they don't exist

>>20975929
Idols are fairly successful in the West too. Boy bands and girl groups exist. But there's no need for them to retain the image of a Japanese idol agency for all of their chuubas. They can keep calling holoJP idols, they don't need to do the same for anyone else managed by their HQ in California.
>>20976021
I don't want to bring them up, but you can argue that VShojo is doing as well as NijiEN, all things considered.

>>20975684
>>20975826
>According to Schiffer, Sony's TR-63 radio "cracked open the U.S. market and launched the new industry of consumer microelectronics." ...helping to propel the fledgling industry from an estimated 100,000 units in 1955 to 5 million units by the end of 1968
Unless you can prove that the global vtubing market is 50 times bigger than the Japanese market there's no reason for Cover to attempt such a thing.
Cover's issue over EN management can be drastically improved without "making JP a sidebranch".
>>20975838
>samurai
The samurai wants the JP branch to be a sidebranch...?
>>20975986
Cover's success was thanks to both their JP and EN talents, losing one for the other is fucking retarded, just admit that you're a shitposter wanting to stir shit up to fulfill your petty wishes for JP to be the sidebranch.
Good thing you're not in charge. And last I checked Sony's CEO is still a Japanese along with the majority of their board members

>>20976258
>>The samurai wants the JP branch to be a sidebranch...?
the concept of a main branch/side branch delineation is a last samurai creation, yes

>>20976258
It's at minimum 4x larger, judging from the most popular global vtuber vs the most popular vtuber from the company with a huge Japanese bias, and the difference in sub growth makes it clear that the disparity is far larger. Also Sony Interactive Entertainment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Interactive_Entertainment)) is run quite independently from Sony.

>>20976441
>sub cope
Yeah okay fuck off cumbud, I don't want Cover to lose all their money by catering to meme shark's dead subs rather than the Japs who actually watch streams and spend money

hey jwu why are we entertaining the fanfiction of this schizo, are we that bored

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY*

>36,740: Subaru (Hololive)
>33,130: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,486: Marine (Hololive)
>20,223: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,614: Botan (Hololive)
>19,219: Miko (Hololive)
>18,410: Yozuna Niu (Neo Porte)
>18,036: Miko (Hololive)
>17,586: Gura (Hololive)
>17,364: Ange (Nipplesanji)
>15,869: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,622: Ina (Hololive)
>13,003: Kanae (Nipplesanji)
>12,642: Mio (Hololive)
>12,208: Mito (Nipplesanji)
>11,689: Mio (Hololive)
>11,557: Ibrahim (Nipplesanji)
>11,246: Chihiro (Nipplesanji)
>11,214: Risu (Hololive)
>10,991: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>10,807: Towa (Hololive)
>10,262: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,201: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)

8k waiting for nina and mysta drunk sex session
probably 20k

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>17,762: Gura (Hololive)
>15,891: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,631: Ina (Hololive)
>10,250: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>5,942: Mori (Hololive)
>5,797: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,759: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>5,567: Fauna (Hololive)

>>20976441
>>20976567
> same person

>>20976574

>NIJIGOLD
NIJIGOLD
>NIJIGOLD
NIJIGOLD

by the way, sana is streaming

>>20976441
Vtubers are not a product. If Kuzuha ends up selling more merch than Gura then Kuzuha still has the upper hand.
Even so 4x is way beyond the 50x I mentioned even if you pretend that sub counts are equal to selling a product.
>Sony Interactive Entertainment
Then why bother? Simply give HoloEN an actual management, your comparison doesn't even make sense if Sony didn't end up transferring their HQ or whatever to the west.

Again, good thing you're not in charge, hopefully of anything. /wg/ is this way >>20918183

>>20976574
Nina overtook Pomu and is about to overtake Finana and Selen, that just leaves Elira as the last Nijigirl standing before the hag fox is the pinnacle of nijigirls in subs at least.

You people are giving too much attention to a EN schizo that pretends to be a JP schizo.

>>20976684
>simply give HoloEN an actual management
Resources are still limited and it makes no sense to pour more money and attention into a smaller market.

how come when marine won gold we got like 4 threads of nothing but marine lewds

step it up subatomos

>>20976810
Man even what used to be comfy hours is just trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls, this place makes me sad

>>20975684

>>20976759
leeching does wonders and nina is a profesional leech.

>>20976568
Yeah. At least I am bored

why did this en vs jp timeloop even happen, hololive destroyed again today and both contributed to it

>>20976441
Even if you use subs as a metric (which is kinda retarded) Gura isn't 4x the size? I'm probably being retarded and not understanding. Also CCV & hours watched is what advertisers care about and is the preeminent metric for success as a livestreamer, which JP dominates.

>>20976967
probably newfags

It's quite obvious how the ENfag isn't arguing in good faith because Cover becoming a USA company would mean they'll be subjected to western values and they'll push for diversity hires which can kill the company from the inside.

>>20976967
because people seriously responded instead of just the slap

>>20976975
Gura is at 4M and Kuzuha is at around 1M, that's 4x the size. I don't use Pekora because even Hololive JP's subs benefit from the worldwide reach that hololive has, compared to Nijisanji JP still being pretty much unknown even now. Luxiem's fast growth didn't boost NijiJP sub growth unlike what Myth did for HoloJP.

>>20976967
>>20977034
When not just JP and EN, but also ID is winning, you know things will get worse

>>20976127
>anon just because we don't talk about vshojo here because they stream on twtich doesn't mean they don't exist
>>20976150
>but you can argue that VShojo is doing as well as NijiEN

They're not by any conceivable metric. That could be a thing when the peak performance of VShojo lined up with the bottom tier for NijiEN (right after Ethyria debuted) but with the recent recline by VShojo and the recent incline even by the NijiEN girls (let alone the boys) that is no longer true

(The data below is taken from twitchtracker for VShojo and Mado / VRabi for NijiEN. They're not comparable for being from disparate sources and for being Twitch numbers vs. Youtube numbers, which is a dumb comparison done to illustrate a point)

Here is VShojo mean average for the month of March so far
>12,478: Ironmouse
>8,471: Veibae
>8,270: Nyanners
>3,631: Projekt Melody
>3,134: Zentreya
>2,856: Froot
>2,890: Silvervale
>0: Hajime

Mysta, Vox outranks every VShojo except Ironmouse (which just rode the biggest buff wave of her career so far).
Luca likely ties with Vei and Nyanners and outranks the rest.
All from Melody below are Noctyx tier.

All of their active ones outranks every NijiEN girl but the game changed when NijiEN debuted the boys.
And there is also the ultimate question, which is the original topic: can a western company with a western management thrive in the vtuber market?

VShojo just received a 11M injection of speculative money, let's see what they do with it. If anon's theory is right VShojo will have no trouble capturing the western vtuber market and sidelining both Hololive and Nijisanji.
Proof is in the pudding, let's see how they fare, they will confirm or disprove anon's theory without the need for either Nijisanji or Hololive change their strategy

>>20976810
>>20976967
I bet its a lost /qa/ faggot that doesnt even watch vtubers in the first place

>>20977115
When did Vei and pink cat drop below 10k? Weren't they on a ride when collab with Mizkif or something? Mouse obviously play her twitch cards right in recent months

>>20977285
vei tanked her numbers by both making drama up with that twitch orca and going through the sodapoppin arc
nyanners is just a classic case of not streaming enough on twitch

>>20976574
wasn't this supposed to start 25 mins ago where the fuck are they

>>20977414
probably streaming without realizing they haven't clicked the "start stream" button

>>20977285
>When did Vei and pink cat drop below 10k?
Vei too a dip when she dissed Shylily and then took a break. It killed her momentum

>>20977414
nina is eating will start in 5min

>>20977414
shhhh...let them fuck

kek, is the "Fulgur - Sana" thread still going? The couple is going at it, with Sana being the top today

>>20977414
They're fucking right now

>>20977577
fulgor had a 5k peak but it was during jp time and sana is a guerrilla that came out of nowhere.

Vox is there too by the way 100%, he didn't stream at all today which is basically unheard of and this is his schedule

>>20977115
VSJ really is just 3 girls that fucking power gap is huge. Even then Nyanners and Veibae have both self nerfed by stupid choices on Veibaes part and Nyanners doing holoEN tier streaming hours on twitch which doesnt fly there. Ironmouse putting in workhorse effort though.

>>20976831
>smaller market
yeah really small anon.. as small as dream getting 800k CCV on his stream retardchama... i dont want to mention the other ones who got over a million CCV to make it sounds humble... what's the highest JP stream? coco graduation with almost 500k? come on.

>>20974598
Holy hips

>>20977775
honestly thought Mel had more views than Nyanners.
I remember during the early parts of the pandemic she was collabing with pretty much everyone on Youtube, Nux, Charlie, minor and major Anitubers etc etc.
Haven't seen her do much of that after the Nux yab... did that actually affect her?

Did ID3 get any culls yet?

>Thai
>Russian
>Japanese
>Chinese
Niji ESL...

>>20977830
Coco is a poor example as she would have gotten viewers from both JP and EN to watch her.

>>20977889
Considering that the nux yab became a yab in the first place because Nyanners went on a public rant casting doubt on her own management instead of handling it through private channels like a proper adult, yeah, I'd be surprised if it didn;t affect her

>>20977927
is no secret mysta fans are from anywhere but NA or english native countries.
the russian are ninas

>>20977919
probably not until today, suually is after the first 24hrs

>>20978171
the culls usually take place around 6am jst so if there are any culls it should be happening in about a couple of hours

>>20977889
apparently she isnt the most entertaining streamer from what my 1 buddy who watches vsj says you still need to have some semblance of a personality to retain stronger viewership

VSPO girl on her 5th hour of Minecraft, and inclining in the after hours to a 6.4k (right now)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Adrv_J7IQ

This used to be Flare, Watame and Ars (IIRC) turf in 2021, and Haachama's in 2019.
She's not doing anything special, just talking with chat and doing basic stuff like mining and killing creatures.

Both companies are sleeping on that, "late night minecraft to chill and sleep to" is a staple and if they don't take it VSPO will and will incline out of it

>>20976975
>Also CCV & hours watched is what advertisers care about and is the preeminent metric for success as a livestreamer
not him, but this isn't Twitch we're talking about. Ads are driven by impressions (every time a video is loaded) and the only time watch time factors in anything is when YT Premium does payouts.

>>20977889
The signs have been there for a long time for her to lose relevancy though, every time someone from that camp has praised Melody it is always the "she is chill" response that every weak hitting comfy streamer get. That her company or whatever tried to cancel a piece of shit and on top of that even failed with that surely didn't help.

>>20978949

en gold

>>20978990
kys

>>20978747
I wouldn't be surprised if things start picking up again when hololive is done with idol reps for this year.

>>20978747
Haachama used to do these relaxing late night minecraft streams during her Australia years but she stopped doing it when she returned to Japan.

>ITT: people even remotely entertaining the thought of westernizing Cover as a company
As a person that advocates for the creation of local studios in Indonesia and USA to produce localized content for EN as well as the 3D lives, I dread the thought of even giving any kind of upper management position to people outside of Japan (especially Canadians, Californians and New Yorkers)...

>>20977105
>ID winning
I'm sorry, what?
>checks last thread
By the Lord, is this what we've come to? Schizos having a meltdown just because HoloID got an extra gold button compared to NijiJP? Fucking hell.

>>20979207
>people
Two (2) retards, likely one samefagging from another device or responding to himself

>>20979207
that's exactly what the trolls are getting at. they want Cover to go to the pitfall of getting pozzed as an american company so Cover destroys itself and maybe vtubing as a whole.

>>20978949
Will this top HoloEN off collab?
Archived part peak: 30k
Unarchived part peak: 40k
They just started and it keep raising.
Is definetely a success by NijiEN standars which makes wonder if the other members will start to do more malexfemale off collabs.
...I wonder if Vox would dare to do that roru.

>>20979311
There's no meltdown, it's just retarded to act like subs are that important when Kuzuha with much less subs or heck, even kenmochi with "just" 500k, gets more viewers than a lot with more subs.

>>20979618
>>20979311
More like nijiniggers are so threatened by HoloId they have to bring out Kuzuha to fight against them

looks like 15k peak unless more people show up in discord calls

>>20979597
a bit early but i think it'll peak around 16-16.5k. also i'm surprised vox wasn't involved in this since isn't he British as well

>>20979597
no. it is boring as shit
>no karaoke
>no activites
>no similar tastes
>no physical interaction
this is no different than their previous drinking collab online

>>20979597
Lol. Nope. You would need Luxiem offcollab to even have chance for that.

>>20979475
Even as an American, if I were to buy Cover, the last thing that I would do is handing over control of the company to westerners. Rather, I'd put Cover's management more power in my company since they clearly know what works and what doesn't in the anime industry.

>>20979765
Vox just turned up

vox in the call so 20k is possible.

>>20979990
irl or in call

>>20979597
noted that all 30-40k was from guerilla stream

>>20980061
IRL

>>20980061
irl

>>20980121
>>20980133
Now that's a 20k

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>17,762: Gura (Hololive)
>15,891: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,631: Ina (Hololive)
>10,250: Alban (Nijisanji)
>5,942: Mori (Hololive)
>5,797: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,759: Uki (Nijisanji)
>5,567: Fauna (Hololive)

>>20979862
>no physical interaction
hmm...
maybe with a little more alcohol

>>20980172
Would be 30k, but well...

>>20980243
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)
7. IRyS (Hololive) - 20,211 (Birthday party and Totsu)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 17,364 (Project Diva Mega Mix)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,491 (We Were Here w/Ike)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 19,133 (Ring Fit Adventure)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 16,530 (Unarchived Karaoke)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 16,109 (Elden Ring)
13. Mumei (Hololive) - 24,090 (UNO w/Gura, Ina, and Baelz)
14. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,202 (Birthday party and Totsu)
15. Mumei (Hololive) - 8,939 (Doom Eternal)
16. Ina (Hololive) - 14,467 (Elden Ring)
17. Kiara (Hololive) - 27,020 (3DVR Dance School w/Gura, Amelia, Ina, and Mori)
18. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 33,386 (300k Karaoke Celebration)
19. Kiara (Hololive) - 15,157 (HoloFes Day 1 Watchalong)
20. Enna (Nijisanji) - 9,920 (Besties Offline Collab)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,821 (Mumei Draws Hololive)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 24,337 (Post Holofes Zatsu)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 17,837 (Ao Oni w/Ike)
24. Gura (Hololive) - 17,762 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)

Hololive - 18
Nijisanji - 6
Others - 0

>>20980243
>>20980341
kys

>me does a offcollab with surprise guest
>elira and millie does the same
>mysat and nina do the same
they could make it less obvious.

>>20976866
Marine is approximately third in number of lewds.

>>20979710
Anon you can bring NijiEN and beat HoloID with Selen alone, you dont even need to go to JP for Kuzuha...

>>20980512
it's a war out there

>>20980555
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>>20976866
sorry, it's just kind of jarring to see Subaru lewds now that we know she looks the same as her model.

>>20980555
doesnt moona reach 10k alone with kraoke?

>>20980624
STOP THE COUNT

>>20980555
lol no, this isn't 2021 anymore

>>20980512
came here to see you people seethe and I was right. Enna beat ame by several months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmBiZOQFr0

>>20980319
They need to stall until the CCP fujos wake up.
Is granted with them they will beat HoloEN off collab.

>>20980720
who was the suprise guest?

>>20980720
i mean surprise guests you fucking idiot. ame didint anounce it was a offcollab until the stream started and ina entered.

Funny thing is that this collab would likely be in their 25k by now without Nina

>>20980512
>travel restrictions start disappearing while people are distracted by Ukraine
>members of widespread EN branches travel to each other to do off-collabs
I'm sure it's all copying Hololive though right?

>>20980821
COUNT STATUS: STOPPED

>>20980624
Oof, not even half the guerrilla HoloEN collab that was late as fuck at night.

>>20980243
>>20980341
kys

uuuuuuh youtube...

>>20980520
? Marine has been 1st for almost 2 years.
I think the power gap was over 30%.

16k? what

>>20980821
Network dropped lost 2k people.

>>20981180
>>20981155
2k bots removed since it hasnt recovered them
You see it time to time with mysta and vox

>>20980677
>>20980585
>>20980598
in normal circumstances, not a buff stream. This is like me picking up Pomu with 9k in Metal Gear and acting like this is her normal numbers.

>>20980821
If they did it in SEA/CN time without Nina and acted super gay, yeah.

>>20981213
Dropped another 1k, then recovered.
YT is fucked this whole week.

When was the last time HoloEN managed to get 18k with just two (2) members w/o Gura, Holobronies? I'm not counting Gura since Nina is hardly the most popular NijiEN liver

>>20980586
Subaru is real...

>17k

HOLOBROS...

>>20981354
Vox is in it dumbass, and Vox is Niji EN's Gura.

>ike also in the stream
lol nina you are a terible numebrfag

Ike walked in.
Passed 17k again.

Yes i am watching this. Reminds me of the Noel Flare off xollab when Rushia came over mid stream.

>>20981180
Dropped again to 14k, it doesn't matter since it already plateaued.

>>20981354
Literally 2 days ago with Mumei you fucking idiot

>>20980341

>>20981360
I can't believe after all these years Subaru is fucking real

>>20981446
The collab is hosted on Nina's channel, though?

>>20981354
It was going to be 15k stream without vox Nijinigger

>>20981494
Check again. 18.5k

>>20981354
Holos get 18k all the time solo lol

>>20981354
Yesterday, with IRyS and Kronii.

>>20980243
>>20980341
I love you, never stop

>>20981354
Thanks for reminding everyone that is freaking out that nijinumber is nothing special!

And one more male on stream

>>20981570
All shitposting aside, NijiEN is nowhere near holo level. They're giving NijiJP a run and it is fun when they sometimes match HoloEN.

>>20981520
>17,978
>Get 18k
Anon?

>>20981632
kys

So I was right that it's a Luxiem gangbang with Nina?

>Barely 20k with half of luxiem
really shows holoen strenght of a global audience giving their offcollabwas also at 2am and still got 40k

this is literally Ame's off collab copypasted by now lmao, even people showing up little by little to keep the hype going

>>20981682
Almost 20k get now, but Susan sai NO

>>20981667
who

imagine the fucking numbers if Nina wasnt here

>>20981678
Don't the Niji guys also have fewer live viewers removed since the majority of their viewers come from Asia?

>>20981850
Nah, imagine the numbers if it was during chink primetime.

>>20981734
nina is a leech and a terrible numberfag. so no surprise she copies people.

Ame earned $10k from two offcollab streams. How much is Nina making rn? I'm sure the price of transportation for all the members and the wine is expensive?

>>20981834
Ike

>>20981877
Absolutely, Luca got like 5% recovery when the Ccvid vaccine came, while the rest had 40-80%.
Even after, i'm with the cull trolls, HoloEn is still 30-40% culled to this day.

>>20981734
side-by-side proof next thread?

>>20981354
Just celebrate your numbers. Comparing it to HoloEn will only hurt yourself

Not watching the stream right now, but why are they using their first off Collab buff like this? Ame's offcollab literally had them going out eating and going to places outside. Are they just gonna eat and drink then leave? Because the notion of all NijiEN members going out for something seems like a group date which is a no-no.

HoloEN is dying...

>>20982094
Because they just met up in London and hung out playing arcade games, drinking pints in pubs and making Twitch sounds irl like the zoomers they are.

It just occurred to me that this is the highest a NijiEN female has ever gotten.

>>20979597
There's no real "story" here mate
EN offcollab got 40k+ out of WORD OF MOUTH in a dead timezone.
That was because of entirety of Myth's audience was waiting for something like this to happen for an entire fucking year.
(For another example, see : Gaku's 3D.)

Ina got to hug Ame, progressing the Hug All of Myth Quest to 1/5 hugs.
There was also all the solo streams that happened after the off-collab where they talked about all the stories and experiences, adding to the kino.

NijiEN collab with each other both on and off all the time, so there's only a very slight novelty factor in doing it as an offcollab.

And well... we'll see if they talk about their experience in a solo stream. Knowing them, it will just be another discord VC collab where they talk about all the stuff they did - TOGETHER!

>>20982094
well vox told about a sotry about eating BEEEEAAANANNSSSSS

and mysta just telling a story just now. it is more boring than the one nijien girls.
Mysta is telling kroni story about getting her face planted into a glass wall but wiht a bush.

This stream is just awful and awkward. I don't know how anybody watches this shit.

Pffftt HAHAHAHA

>>20980512

>>20982358
The viewers don't understand English.

kek keep seething guys

alright so which of the 3 boys is going to take which of nina's 3 holes?

>>20982358
should have just moved it to chinese primetime
the viewers dont even understand anyway

>>20982409
This probably explains why their channel memberships are so low.

>>20982010
>HoloEN is 30%-40% culled to this day
Wow do you have anything to back that up

Don't mind me, just enjoying the seethe.

is this the holobrony hugbox? why so much seeth at big number?

>>20981944
> 3 boys and Nina
> offcollab

>>20982358
They're straight up EU zoomers, if you've ever seen a Pewdipie Jack collab from a few years back, it's like that. That's how many young people in the EU act indoors. They don't try to be too rowdy, like how i see the NA off collabs that are all about Content and Energy.
Just storytelling is fine.

>>20982236
All the time? This is just the third one. Enna x Millie from months ago, EnnaxMilliexEliraxRosemi and now this one.

>>20982358
They are actually invested on either one or all of them, so you can figure out why they are watching a off collab.

>>20981734

>>20982580
they told ONE STORY so far. About vox crashing against a bush

And then this thread wants to act like it only cares about numbers with all of this seethe over this stream. This and yesterday with not criticizing cover for burying holostars with ID3 really shows how it is kek

>>20981734
Holy teacuck deflection

>>20982490
I don't have the image saved unfortunately but someone had the average CCV numbers for Myth from debut through February 2021.
Sept-Nov had steady views then December came and suddenly there was a sharp decline.
Ame lost around 50%, Gura 44%, and the rest lost somewhere between 33-40%.

>>20982580
Vox, Mysta and Ike are in their early 20s while Nina is in her early 30s so...

>>20982057
Nah, Holofags have been playing at this mocking game since forever. I'm going to take every chances of NijiEN beating HoloEN and rub it in your faces while I still can. This is one of those since I doubt any of HoloEN can get more than this today
Blame yourselves, Holobronies. You guys started this shit

>>20982822
>Nina early 30s
HAG FOX UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Wow, this is so boring
>What a awful stream!
>Viewers don't even understand english!!!

how is is this numbers related? never saw so much cope before LOL

>>20982713
>offcollab
>2 biggets luxiem
>
>20k

i mean there aresome paralels between this and ames offcollab so people are drawing the comparisions.

>>20982822
Ike is 26

>>20982558
Sorry that we don't respect the fake Chinese numbers of Niji "EN"

>>20982842
this is the small dog syndrome that people here talk about all the time manifested

>>20982593
I said regular collabs mate, but again - the point still stands, they've done it 3 times now, and not much was different in their offcollab compared to their regular collab.
I suppose you could argue it's because of the Chemistry they already have with each other, but that once again adds to my point that there's no special "story" for a NijiEN offcollab.

>>20982490
Quite a lot of inconclusive evidence because, let's be real, none of these numbers can be trusted.
Latest would be the charts in the dat day YT was fucking up, Kiara's stream peaked over 7k during the seesaw, then dropped to 4k when it was "fixed". Again, can't be certain either numbers are real. The like ratio isn't a cope, the ratio is worse compared to 2020 fall, though we already saw then that ENs and IDs like waymore than JPs, so again, can't say what the precise ratio is. Not 200% but probably 40% compared to 2020.

>>20982713

>>20982842
Are you actually a nijifag? Do you have the faggots memberships?

>>20982913
So, like wrestling? Each holo has a storyline to follow, be it a scripted one eor one that the holo developed.

>>20982236
>"1/5"
Isn't it 1/4 or does she have to hug herself?

>>20982880
Please understand we got an influx of tribalfag spics from global recently, it was never this bad before even after Luxiem debuted

>>20982822
Anon.... Nina is 20.
She couldn't even drink if she went to the US.

>>20982842
>>20982900

>>20982880
if they could understand them it would be far more than 20k

>>20981109
Gura was first last time someone checked, pretty recently.

>>20982976
>Do you have the faggots memberships?
No, I'm only membered to Elira, Selen and Rosemi. I don't even watch Luxiem. That doesn't change the fact that they are NijiEN members

>>20983018
Do your reps jesus christ you retard

>>20982713

its a hugbox anon, this thread has been always like this. but moments like these are good for that, just to show much here is actually about 'numbers'

>20K
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SAVEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEE GUUUURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20983034
flip that image around and put the nijilogo on the dog's face to cover it completely

Same effect, but funnier looking.

>>20983007
I am apparently bad at math fml

>>20983018
Nina is only younger than Pomu in NijiEN anon. shes a fucking hag

>>20983034
The only barking here is from retarded holobronies who seethe any time the nijiniggers get a half decent number

>>20981109
>>20983047

which niji has the most lewds?

which homo has the most lewds?

>HoloEN off collab
40k
>Luxiem off collab
Not even 20k

Oh no no no Nijikeks

>>20983086
oh i know, I just want to show in those moments how it isn't actually about numbers kek

>20K
holobros...

>>20983202
No idea but Lulu had a ton of real good shit

>>20983163
just pretend you included Irys and then it's 1/5

holobros...

>>20983047
ill just look at pixiv for a rough estimate
>11919 Total Images
>989 of them are R18
>8.3% R18 Ratio
Marine is at
>18518 total
>2308 R18 images
>12.4% R18 ratio

>already making lewd sounds andsaying things about indirect kisses
the different in how luxiem and holo girls act even on offcollab is amazing.

>>20983240
Already crossed 20k and will keep rising as people start waking up or returning home, anon.

>>20983202
a lot, but hskw lewds are my favorites

>>20982490
I still never count in viewer numbers on 1 view streams when I am logged into my youtube account. When I log out I count.

>>20983315
It blows my mind that anybody watches NijiEN. They always resort to this kind of bullshit to cover up their lack of talent.

Good job tribalfags now we're being raided by the nijisisters, was that seething really worth it?

>>20983061
> Doesn't watch the Luxiem
> Piggy-bagging their numbers
Pathetic, at least throw them $10 bucks for giving you your long awaited chance.

>>20983246
Marginally higher than a Mumei guerilla karaoke at 2 AM. Or marginally higher than the 2 Luxiem collabs just the other day. Uh, nice, I guess?

>>20983365
Fuck off faggot, nobody cares

>>20983315
Unfiltered vs Sanitized contents. Each to their own, anon

INA MOGGED

>>20983424
nah they dont reort on it excpet for vox and mysta

the other jsut get clipped when they fall for it, at least for the girls side. i fucking hate most of the males streams but i wathc their content just to have an idea on how it afffects their numbers.

>>20983047
Pixiv: overall - R18
Marine: 18.5k - 2.3k R18
Noel: 7.8k - 1.2k
Gura (max stats): 16.6k - 1.1k
Pekora: 16k - 969
Aqua: 11.7k - 1.1k
I didn't remember it being this bad, Marine basically doubles them.

>>20983549
You shouldn't watch any of them. They all suck.

>>20983424
>lack of talent
>Petra know graphic design, piano, drawing, mixing, how to make mvs and do it for other nijien
>Ike know how to do singing, mixing and do it for other nijien
on this alone it already shows their talents.

>>20983549
And a ching chong nig nog to you too zhang

>>20983598
some of the higher R18 ratios like Marine are Mel/Choco/Amelia iirc. Holoblondes pump up higher R18 arts to regular art ratio like Marine

>>20983641
>2/20 people
You might want to continue elaborating because all you're doing is proving his point.

>>20983641
>Petra
Nobody cares
>Ike
No he can't

>>20982842
Here we see a deranged man, picking up shit with his bare hands and throwing it to a large wall
>Blame yourselves, Holobronies. You guys started this shit
How will historians in the future call this specimen? Experts affirm that "nijinigger" is the most appropriate name but only time will tell.

sometimes i wish we had IDs on this board so we could see people feigning false seethe from actual seethers and the samefag replies

>>20983785
Nipplenigger

>>20983641
Petra is a chink, who's jack of all trades, master of none. Trying random shit is not much of a talent.

>Nina 21K
>Ina 6K
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Will the Luxiem/Nina gangbang offcollab beat Gura's post-Holofes zatsudan stream? Just 3k or so from its peak to go.

>>20983872
Flags + IDs
Board would be fixed in hours.

>>20983686
yeah it sucks but some one needs to make the scrifice.
i feel mysta regressed on the coomer thing whicih is dissapointing.
>>20983996
it already ending.

kek, they hired the same crew that set up Laplus internet?

>>20983996
only if the chinks overclock their botnet

>>20983202
Yes Lulu has over 1k ...1/5 are R18
Lize has 1.4k out of 9k

Rion has 710, but an even better ratio.

>>20984017
>Flags
You think you do until Tally Anon turns out to be an Indog, and then what

So the first off collab of 3 luxiem boys is barely more viewership than a horror game discord call?

>>20984150
Nina debuff

>>20984017
i feel that flags would just result in more shitposting, which is a downside to that.
i cannot see a downside to thread IDs

>>20982993
The highest tier holos always have character arcs naturally form around them either from their own activities or from their PL experiences which helps them incline. e.g. Peko, Suisei, Gura etc.
Mid tiers usually can get by with just the regular "rags to riches" arc seen in a thousand stories, just with their unique personality as a twist.
And those who don't are usually at the lower end of the spectrum, but even they can grab on to the mid tier story with just a bit of hard work to incline (Mio, Aki, and Mel's recent attempts).

Biggest stories are collabs and interactions between the holos, which almost always has a step by step way of going about it, building up a natural character arc.
Debut individually --> Gen collab --> Solo streams with occasional inter-gen collab --> Collab ban lifted (expansion into greater universe, similar to the story arc of the Hero who finally finishes the tutorial town and finds himself in the wider world of endless possibilities).
Eventually they get used to the new world, relations normalize and natural relationships between members start to form, eventually leading to offcollabs that are usually extremely high quality climaxes in the holo story arc.

Probably the most recent high level example I can remember is the arc where Noel becomes Ahijo after seeing Subaru's 3D Live, which ended with a cringekino tier offcollab between the two that was some of the highest level of kino seen in JP VTubing (and it had the viewers to match).

Best part about these "arc"s is that a LARGE portion of casual tourists can experience this through snipped clips. They don't give the same feel as seeing it happen live on stream, but that's the point, the tourists can be eventually converted into live viewers.

NijiEN... everyone's "friendly" with each other. When a new wave is introduced, there's no sections where they gradually ramp up. In story terms, it's like reading Malazan. You're thrown headfirst into the world and it's up to you to make sense of it. Some people like it, but casual viewers will simply find it confusing. And if every other stream is a collab, that also delves into problems of "ensemble cast" where everyone just has maybe 1-2 shallow character traits and no one really stands out. Deeper character introspection and fleshing out is supposed to happen in solo streams, with the development from those being taken to collab streams, and vice versa.
This is also why a large portion of the Niji livers have trouble maintaining their audience. No one's noticing it because their peaks are still high, but a large portion of NijiEN streams have a downward trending graph regardless of content, which is not a good trend to have.

>>20984105
Curious about Nui's ratio.

Can't believe it that Nina will get an EN gold.

>>20984150
is also deadhours for chinese. but just tells you how dependendant they are on them.
At least compared to ame's offcollab in deadhours too

>>20984108
I'd probably keep indogs and Singapore. Malaysians, Pinoys, Canadians, and Thai? Out.

>>20984240
1782/345 - 19.3% R18 Nui
10518/764 - 7.2% R18 Mito

>>20984240
Give me an hour or two and I'll do them all, I'm curious now

>>20984108
>Tally Anon
which one?

>>20984498
>19.3% R18 Nui
lmao unsurprising but based

>>20984426
Why group Canadians with SEAniggers? What the fuck?

Why Mysta singing got more views than 3 males in the same room?

So that was it? Disappointing honestly.

I just came here to see you guys cry lmao, it was fun, thank you!

>>20983160
like this maybe?

Today's main event is Watame outfit vs HoloId debut right? I'm surprised that tribalfags showed up today

>>20984238
Just want to shout-out Aqua for apparently being the mastermind of both character and group arks.
Brought back MC in late 2019 and moved in to the Hololive Resistance arc that brought even Sora into the group.
Tried to do the chuuni hero run in Smash, MK and Apex but endes up failing miserably, which made her 2022 Apex Masters arc all that stronger.
Holo and Niji JPs learn a lot from eachother. They learned how to wing entertaining plotlines when the chance appears, but other than Kiara i don't see the EN side having learned to do that. At least not to the level Aqua, Pekora or Subaru can.

prtime numbers

>>20984629
Not chink hours + female debuff

>>20984426
Also ban Brazilian and Columbian

>>20984577
Go to a board with flags. They are the most abhorrent people on the planet.

>>20983641
speaking of, why does everyone in NijiEN thread hate Petra?
Or is it just a meme/schizo minority?

>>20984761
I mean, Canada is pretty much chinkland in its western coast.

>>20984712
Didn't...Noctis, yeah, that was the name.
Didn't they have a pv too?

>>20984707
No, I meant the base image, to keep the logos in the correct orientation. But this is also hilarious. Just one step away from a kino horizontal flip .gif

>>20984286
Maybe. Gura could pass that with Kirby. Kirby isn't the strongest game but Gura usually gets good viewership the first time she plays something.

Guess how much of the 20k+ people watching the off collab went to the AmongUs collab on Pomu's channel? About 300-350 people.

>>20984846
Remember when on JP in 2020 everyone hated Ayame?
That's right, it was just 1 skitzo making 3 threads a day. At least in 2020.

>>20975479

>>20984948
How many went to Ina?

>>20983769
Pomu is good at mixing idol chants. See the Diamond city chant, Finana is good at managing social media, Elira's stable charisma holds the Lazulight group together and she is bilingual. Selen is good at improv see the soft Selen, and miss Tatsuki arc. Rosemi lures the idolfags in. Enna has divine vocals and her friend Millie is a gremlin. Reimu speaks Spanish and English, while Nina speaks Russian and English. So they foster some niche audiences.

Vox has an amazing voice that draws in female viewers like moths to light, Mystia is his foil, and Ike does artistic games that see less presence on YouTube. Luca is a ball of positivity that always raises the mood in whatever collab he is and in while Shu helps with the technical end of things. Fulgur is the first heel character in Nijisanji EN while Alban keeps the most of the things that Mysta had with his own spin. Sunny is the bro niche that some wanted and Uki appeals to those who wanted a softer male personality. Also Yugo is a trap ESL. So that is .5 instead of a 1. So Nijisanji EN is a 19.5/20. Almost perfect.

>>20984872
yes

>>20985017
This is the most cringe post I've ever read on this board. Go back to your hole Nipplenigger.

>>20984883
oh, like this?

>>20985014
Impossible to tell as it's basically a linear increasing graph whereas Pomu's shot straight up at one point.

>>20985121
>>20984712
We had a lot of groups debu in this rrimester didn't we.
Especially with how 2021 was, with 1 group all year and just NijiEN accelerating

>>20984948
NijiEN girls are irrelevant.

>>20985014
0. There is no reason for them to go to Ina.

>>20984944
Gura will be having members stream so EN gold is secured for NijiEN.

>ina 20min in
>no overlap at all
>sub 10k

holoen really is dying

>>20985305
Dyrb?

Is this the collab watching thread? Are you guys excited about the finana pomu offcollab this saturday? I’ll see you all there!

Shiki with constant 100% poll participation rate multiple times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5lpoYz7AU

>>20983313
>>20983598
I guess she overtook Gura in the past few months. (although Pixiv being mainly JP and Gura being EN might muddle the data somewhat.)

>>20985232
>the Niji logo does look like a chihuahua's head
OH SHIT, I WAS RIGHT

>>20984710
Yeah, you can tell the EN side is STARVING for stories like the ones JPs have, which is why the offcollab rose that high that quickly in that timeslot.
Unfortunately a lot of the JPs also have it easier because of being able to meet with each other in the studio or when going out to eat etc. where they can have smaller slice of life interactions.
Mori also seems to be trying recently with her "I hated idols, but look at me now", sort of an anti-hero arc (although that might not be intentional).
She's in the same space Vegeta or Zuko was, newly converted to the heroes' side but not everyone trusts them yet (due to their own earlier fuckups).

>>20985017
eeehhh
man even i watch luxiem and their talents you are posting are just personality traits. excpet for the languaje and some singing.
luxiem are dpeendant more on the content focused to a specific region and users. And the girls stopped trying to stand on their own and are focusing on making the group itself standout rather.

Anwyay vox will probbaly do more offcollabs in the enxt 3 days so probably will get "en gold" for them

>>20985354
Fuck off with the members only shit Gura. Fucking hell.

>>20985505
She HATES grays

>>20984951
ah, kek I still remember thinking that the entirety of 4chan hated Ayame because of that guy.
The Korea hating memes didn't help though kek

>>20985476
>newly converted to the heroes' side but not everyone trusts them yet
When has Mori ever been on the other side? When has she ever been distrusted?

KEK, if I didn't know this is likely a coincidence I would say Ina caught a bigger funnel from the end of Luxiem(+Nina) collab than Pomu
>it's a coincidence tho
Ina growth is her own, merely a delayed verification of her initial audience

>>20985423
>3 digits
I regret clicking. Good thing I have adblock so I didn't add another 1% to her audience

>>20985354
Feels like about 1/3rd of Gura's content is paywalled. Good strategy for getting memberships but shit for numbers.

>>20985578
More like she only likes those who give her money.

>>20985255
In English, please. I have no idea what you mean.

>>20985678
Gura absolutely hates her non-members.

>>20985678
how many member streams has she done this month

>>20985476
>Yeah, you can tell the EN side is STARVING for stories like the ones JPs have
Kronii ALMOST set one up with her "council civil war" and subsequent "jokeronii" but she is too retarded to follow through and dropped it

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING JP GIRL added Bunkeronii in their EN tour but Kronii went AWOL from MC and didn't take advantage.
Compare and contrast with Haachama's "death coaster"

>>20985678
guras chat is one of the worst for grays still after all this time.

>>20985476
> due to their own earlier fuckups
It will take a long time to heal this, maybe a year or two if she can stay relevant until then. Any misstep will prolong the duration though.

>>20985746
one every week

>>20985706
She has said that her concern is that people who might stumble upon her stream randomly will get weirded out by her more emotional content, at least that's why she paywalled her holofes watchalong.
She said they wouldn't understand why she was crying or why she was emotional and would complain in chat, and she didn't want that.

>>20985590
she's been on the up and down throughout her career desu, kind of a revolving door type thing.
S1 Mori had the "Kiara King Cover", "ignoring Kiara" and general awkwardness which gave her a lot of haters.
She almost redeemed herself during S2 Mori, but then fucked it up again with the Cuck shit and the roommate stream.
I guess it's more akin to an anti-hero trying to break a bad habit?
If she plays her cards right, S3 Mori could be a really good story arc.

>>20985505
the streams called "making a song" so hopefully this leads to something
>>20985813
not sure how someone would go about this since it would likely mean remembering to everyone but what is the avg member stream for each holos

>>20984498
>Yorumi Rena has 3172/560 ratio
So i wasn't wrong to see her as sex

>>20985590
Her entire idol arc is basically are trying too hard to whistle to the people on this board, because hardly anyone out of here gives much of a damn about idols or even understands what that means.

>>20985706
Talk is cheap.
If you like the contents, then support them financially.

Just got home from work and saw that an off collab with half of Luxiem only got 20k. That is kind of a bad number. The HoloEN off collab got double that.

>>20985017
Exceptionally bad post.

>>20985905
>making a song
FUCK! That is an easy 30k if it wasn't members only.

>>20985746
pretty sure 4 this month so far.
>eating hololive members [ranking]
>karaoke
>LINK YOUR WISH Concert Watch-along! DAY 1
>Makin a song

>>20985754
That entire series was like a golden start to a story arc, and honestly could have inclined Fauna and Mumei a bunch as well if it went anywhere.
God dammit Kronii...

>>20984710
>other than Kiara i don't see the EN side having learned to do that
That's because Kiara (self-admittedly) has said multiple times that she tries to put on a show so the audience is entertained (too bad her voice and german autism is a huge filter).
Most of the EN girls just want to chill and have fun so it usually doesn't lead to anything.
I recall there was a discord leak of one of the JP girls and their chat log showed a bunch of coordinates of interesting things on the server.
>>20985827
The greys in Gura's chat during the public Holofes talk was pretty bad, they were spamming "cringe" or "just play a game".

>>20985905
ID does once a week or at least id2 does.
most of jp only do watchalong or give wallpapers
mori and gura do te most memeber content
and ame gives updates on her community posts.

>>20985813
Which wouldn't be so bad except she only streams 3-4 times a week, and usually paywalls GOOD content not junk like watchalongs. I think Gura, EN cull and all, could still have Pekora average numbers if she wanted to, she's just made a consistent effort *not* to. Kronii is even worse. Maybe some day we'll get a frontrunner in EN that actually wants to be successful.

>>20986020
SHE DOES WHAT SHE WANTS

>>20985469
No anon, i remembered mid 2021 when saying Marine was 30% ahead, Gura was never on top... At least, not with the highest result tags.
That's what i think happened, because it occured before. The anon probably only used romanji spellings and ofc, got much higher results for EN.

>>20986023
>4 things that would have got big to huge numbers

Nice.

But hey, she played uh...Mario Kart?

https://poal.me/u37y8c
https://poal.me/u37y8c
https://poal.me/u37y8c
https://poal.me/u37y8c
Well?

>>20985017
> sunny is the bro niche
Is he? I never gave him a chance due to that dogshit design, maybe I'll check some of his solo streams

>>20985754
>>20986029
Hey, a new minecraft arc is around the corner.

>>20985587
Plenty of people dislike Ayame because she's kind of a lazy bitch.

>>20985727
>>20985779
greynames (at least the ones that don't sub to at least one chuuba) are generally a blight on Hololive. Do they even financially support Hololive at all? I guess they're at least better than clipniggers.

>>20986045
Mori only did 1 member stream so far this month I think (the day 2 watchalong)

>>20986085
they are ok just need more collabs.
problem right now is that the holoen are alwasy busy.

>>20986140
the watch along wouldn't be that high, i don't think.I know i'd have holofes buff but its still a watch along

>>20985604
>Basically nobody goes to Pomu
They really are there for the guys.

>>20986029
No, really, I'm still seething. I don't even normally follow EN that closely but Kronii snagged me with her seething when she built that many iron boots and I tuned in to see where she would lead the story
>and she dropped it for some retarded game like Hollow Night

Pic related has her every Minecraft stream with "minecraft" in the title
>Fucking kronii, GIVE ME MOAR!

>>20986152
There should really be a fuck off option.

HoloEN numbers predictions (JST Time)
>Currently Steaming Ina: ER - 12k
Ina has been disgustingly strong with ER so it's going to be another good day for her
>7AM Fauna: SC Reading - 3k
SC reading but only with an Ina overlap.
>10AM Bae: Cyberpunk - 6k
Second time playing so it'll be debuffed.
>12PM Mori: Manga Reading w Kronii - 10k
No clue here outside of Kronii autism being a powerful thing.

>>20986152
I don't even like Vox or the other two guys and only occasionally watch Nina and it still seemed pretty fun. Lacked them heartfelt joy/accomplishment of EN's because these guys haven't known each other nearly that long, or the outright craziness of the Niji girls (due to them already being friends) but it was still good and worth the 20k.

>>20985920
Yes, after her swimsuit outfit my feed was flooded by lewds of her I didnt even know who she was before that lmao

>>20986214
The off collab was in my local trends for Japan and it was almost all girls excited about the guys meeting up.

>>20985721
*debut
*trimester
Can't help you more. English is 1/3rd French.

>>20986168
Watame has so many members now some gifted memberships are actually getting refunded because they have no one to go to.

>>20984238
Wait, does it mean that hololive is a cinematic universe?

>>20986344
No, really, that would be an easy 30k if they titled
>Vox-Mysta going at it at 4AM
and it was in either of their channels

>>20986334
Kronii fancies herself a VA so she ought to be able to make it a fun stream for her fans. Anyone know what manga it is?

>>20986334
Underestimating Cyberpunk 2077 again are you?

>>20986388
Partly because no one outside the JP region can get the gifted memberships, so SEA/EN fans are useless for that.

>>20986334
faua wil be less 2k. is a terrible time for SC reading
BAe will be a little higher since she has the timeslot alone for her.

>>20986334
Bae basically left off right before you mean Keanu Reeves so it will probably be higher.

>>20986033
Pretty sure the discord leak in question is the Mio-Fubuki MC date, with Watame and Botan as "random guests". Since it keeps popping up around here. Mostly as the "it's all staged" argument which... Mio and putting on a show... Name a more iconic duo.

>>20986404
It is for those who onboarded before the holocaust.

I still remember when I knew Haachama for her "late night minecraft" streams, knew Aqua from a handful of dumb meme clips but HAD NO FUCKING IDEA they were related in any way.

It was not until Coco and Asacoco that people from across the fandom realized there was this FUCK HUGE cast of girls related by virtue of being in the same company and "the funnel" formed.
Before them it was pretty much taboo to even mention you knew other vtubers and loyalty to your chosen one was supposed to be absolute.

>>20986498
Depends how late Ina goes. If she stops before Bae or shorts after Bae starts it will help. If she plays an hour or two into Bae's stream it'll screw her over. Also might be a chance for Mumei/IRyS or Ame to stream.

>>20986404
Anon, where have you been? Hololive is basically a dynamic CGDCT Anime while Nijisanji are streamers with an anime avatar.

>>20985017
> mixing
This isn't a talent that helps streams directly, but I'll give her indirect points for that (3/20). Do remember though that according to your own post there's a huge overlap of the same talent among NijiEN.
> good at social media
> charismatic
> improv
... these are like the ABCs of streaming... every streamer has to eventually get good at these things to continue their work properly...
> luring idolfags
not exactly a streaming talent, but alright
> singing
awesome, 4/20!
> gremlin
personality traits aren't "talents" anon
> 2 bilinguals
6/20, we're getting there!
> Vox Voice
7/20
> foil
personality trait, not talent
> game selection
not a talent
> positivity
not exactly a talent, this should be a given for streamers that want a positive audience
also implies that the others are not that positive, kek
> technical aspects
not really "streaming" talents, but I'll give it to him (8/20).
> heel, Mysta spin, bro niche, softer personality, trap
personality traits, not "talent"s
Total 8/20, and that's me being generous.
You're still not even at 50%.

>>20986432
> what manga it is?
It's one of those "I'm lazy, but I'm super talented and influential". Not an isekai at least.

>>20986336
Nice false flag

>>20986606
Does Ina usually go longer than 5 hours on Elden Ring streams?

>>20986593
Oh that screenshot? Wait, did you anon's think that was real? I would've thought the whole Mio shaving her bush would've given it away already. kek.

>>20986593
It's part of being an entertainer. Same goes with Aqua and her MC shenanigans back in the day, she knows when to act dumb to make great content.

>>20986168
I'll take the talents' word over yours mate, I'm still watching some streams, commenting on chat and in comments, and liking streams. That's often good enough for most people that can't watch everything.

>>20986756
4, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 6, 3, 5

4.5 average?

>>20986280
I hope her MC autism collab with Moona can help start something.
I fucking hope she sticks with it this time though.

>>20986404
Anon, if you've been here since before Myth, you would have seen many reels (as opposed to clips) of the Holos doing things like it was a cartoon segment.

"Stay Home"
"DOOG"
"Super Mario English Only"
"Eekum Bokum"

And a number of others.

>>20986404
Yeah, And Miko's return was the peak mid series point, with a lot of other mini arcs like Holo Resistance, FestivaLuna, Hey Moona, the Shubangelion and Sports fest arcs, Mumei custody battle. (Most notable ones in MC)
Coco's graduation was the series 1 finale, but we went into the Marine July celebration mini season real fast and it keeps going.

>>20986432
The Insipid Prince’s Furtive Grab for The Throne - from Mori's waiting room

>>20986498
>multi-part game
>Bae doesn't do well with FPS so gunplay is slow and is completely lost on the story.
>possible Ina overlap
>Aki went from 7.9k peak to 4.7k peak on her second stream.
yes.

>>20983929
Petra did the MV for Pomu and Luca. Tell me if you think the MV for those are bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Flh0wvMnBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHR37YELi_U
>>20983777
Yes he can. He was the mixer for Luca Mafia cover
>>20985017
Reminder I wasn't the one who said this, this is a different anon.

>>20986974
I feel like this stuff feels more prominent to EOPs because they don't watch or understand any of the normal daily streams between big collab stuff.

>>20986932
>>20986974
So, most of the still memorable stuff was from 2020, before they heavily got into idol reps.

>>20986974
I also completely forgot but there's a half-dropped arc in "Pesuke" that's still pending completion.
It's like one of those plot points forgotten in the middle of the story, overshadowed by other stuff, but makes a comeback later on at some unexpected time.

>>20987065
Not bad, but pretty mediocre, like an IRyS MV. Granted she's not a pro and just did it as a favor. It's not something that will help you incline much as a streamer (as Petra has proven).

>>20987154
They were already in the idol rep phase when 2020 came. The difference between then and now was the amount of money that was available to them.

>>20987065
I see, those two MVs are really good. They basically save the singing from Pomu and Luca

>>20987154
>most of the still memorable stuff was from 2020
That's because what people remembers is ALWAYS their first contact

Ask ANY person who their favorite Bond is. They'll ALWAYS reply with the first Bond they way

>>20987292
This. Dr. No is still cool despite all these years.

>>20987209
Reminds me how Mori could technically produce songs entirely by herself but it's a waste of her own time so she just hires other people to do everything but the english lyrics.

>>20987154
2021 had the Season Finale of Coco, and before and after that there were the Minecraft sports festivals.
All the holos of course have arcs of their own now, since they have an established fanbase, and can rotate breaks between them to serve as mini arcs.
Late 2021 was also the intro of HoloX, and Laplus alone brought in a bunch of old NND audience to the holo circle.
There were also the MarioKart arcs, although the second one was a bit more disconnected than the first.
And 2022 just had HoloFes as a climax, with another MC arc coming up soon.

>>20986974
Nah. I'd say we just started season 6 at this point.
>S1: Sora's debut -> Xmas miracle
>S2: Gen 1 debuts -> HoloFes
>S3: Gen 4 debuts and Covid lockdowns -> Miko return live
>S4: Mariokart Tourney -> Coco graduation
>S5: IRyS debut -> HoloFes 3

>>20987209
sure but that wasn't the point of the argument. the argument was about how nijien has no talent and they need to do other things to hide that

> Everyone forgetting Aqua's Minecraft neighbor
Am I the only one whose first story arc was that one?

>>20987384
i mean most dont and even kronii does mixing.