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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

The only part of a bread dog capeable of exploding would be the battery which is inside the frame. Bread dogs do not regenerate. You have to bake bread dog a new loaf once every few weeks. If a bread dog's frame is destroyed then it cannot be repaired without advanced robotics. If the battery explodes then the whole frame is fucked, the chips are fucked, and the bread dog permanently dies. Exploding bread dogs aren't happening.

Meat and pyon unity!

>>20942362
But can you alter the dough recipe?

>>20943031
We have rye, barley, oatnut, sourdough, broiche, and whole grain recipes.

>>20943191
no cornbread?

>>20943412
Not enough gluten. We tried.

>>20943820
woe to those with Coeliac disease

>>20943998
At least they can still pet the bread dog.

>>20941530
https://rentry.org/urahp
Made some major additions to the Army organization of /who/. Also made a lil' order of battle chart.

In my research if /nasa/ is a tundra wetland then it should have bauxite and iron along with coal and shale. If any experienced geologist wants to say otherwise then let me know. I used to not like /nasa/'s location. But I'm loving it even more the more I research the geology.

>>20945233
Fuck, you gave me some work to do, anon
Now I need to draw all of those fuckers

picrelated, at least we have general infantry design ready

>>20945836
Sorry... My autism got ahead of me...
You don't have to draw all of them. I'd say just having graphics for the line infantry and light infantry already adds a lot of authenticity to the military aspects of /who/'s lore.

>>20945233
Very well done, the usage of roman titles is a bit surprising, frankly I hadn't even considered using them, I'll probably still use the modern names when referring to them in lore since it comes easier to me.
Also, we're probably one of the bigger and most populated states in the world and I was going by that assumption.
I'm quite impressed. I was taking too long to research the military matters, so you eased up the job quite a lot.

>>20946151
Thanks.
Was debating whether or not to just use the 18-19th cen. terminology but decided Latin names just sounds too cool not to use.
Yeah I forgot the part about /who/ being relatively big in terms of pop, fixed.
Also realised I fucked up the chart and reworked it a bit

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Bjümp

>>20950406
I FUCKING LOVE WAR!
I WANT TO FUCKING KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY AND DESTROY CULTURE AND HISTORY!

>>20952749
/who/ merc when?

/nasa/'s got a trade deal. We're about to launch the station. Coal and shale have been discovered. Still looking for bauxite and iron. Busy times for /nasa/. Maybe I should slow down for a few days.

>>20952749
I just had an insomnia hallucination of a half-naked Mumei covered in blood.

>>20954309
>insomnia hallucination
Please tell me how to replicate it. Asking for a friend.

>>20952998
The politics and military culture aren't really that developed and /who/'s government don't have much incentive to fund mercenary companies(like the swiss cantons). But I guess the relative peace and the sheer amount of citizens with some combat experience can be the lore reason for a private /who/ merc company.

>really loves war
>calls their armies Legion
>Roman larp
>Mumei worshippers being bloodthirsty
Yeah. You really are proving that one anon's claim true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j83at3Z_aw

War between /meat/ and /who/
Implicit violence vs explicit violence

>>20956135
Truly beautiful

>>20956385
The first anon who posted >>20956135's link is a /who/oman. He really knows

>>20956135
>Noooooo I swear the larger than average military and guns are just traditionssss. We don't intend to do anything with them...
>Missing tourists? What?
>Oh the uranium? I swear we are just selling them to /nasa/ for their research.
>Once again,No. There's no dead bodies in my root cellar
>Concentation camp? what are you talking about? ^ ^;;
> We don't talk about what happened on the sweltering summer night of 1686.

>>20956135
>War For Soul Of The Owl Republic
>The Sword Of Mumei
>Put The Schizos To The Wall
>Operation OWL
>Hooman Legions

boomp

>>20957727
>>20957765
Maybe I should become a hooman, you guys sound fun.

>>20954889
NTA, but don't sleep for 36+ hours
Side-effects may include unintentional schizo rambling and falling asleep standing up while you're at fucking work

>>20959589
Anyone has that image of hoomans being creepy greeting a newblood?

>>20959855
Been there, done (something equivalent to) that.

>>20956214
odd friendship?

>>>20927530
Looking forward to see how you will lore about Risu adoration of the Neko and Inu goddesses lol.

>>20962370
>>20961940
>>20960579
>>20955584
>>20895309
/meat/'s discussing our conlang
Any opinion?

holy shit new thread already? wtf guys?

>>20962859
I applaud their autism, would love my thread being like that.

>>20950406
>>20952749
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR LET'S FUCKING GO I WANT TO SEE THE LIFE DRAIN FROM MY ENEMY'S EYES! I WANT HIM IN DEATH TO DROP A LOCKET CONTAINING A PICTURE OF HIS FAMILY SO I KNOW WHAT CIVILIANS TO KILL WHEN I INVADE HIS PATHETIC FUCKING COUNTRY! I WANT TO BURN DOWN HIS HOME AND NEVER EVEN KNOW HIS DAMN NAME.

>>20962867
Yeah, we're productive kek

>>20962867
>>20963281
It depends on your perspective I guess, in comparison to /Infinity/ it moves at snail pace. Nothing productive happens there, but it goes faster.

>>20950406
>>20952749
>>20963222
WAAAAAAAR
TOGETHER WE WILL PAINT THE WORLD RED IN A SUSTAINABLE MANNER
PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION
ALL SHALL BLEED AND SUFFER
WE WILL FEAST ON THEM AND THEN EACH OTHER

>>20963222
I LIKE ROSEMI BTW. SHES MY SECOND FAVORITE VTUBER RIGHT NOW. MY MAIN GIRL IS RISU BUT HOLY FUCK ROSEMI IS CUTE

>>20963494
>Nothing productive happens there
But theyre making at least 10 fapfics an hours
>>20963565
Brother no! We're supposed to declare war at the gods! Not each other!

>>20963599
THE GODS, AND THEN EACH OTHER THEN!
in hindsight could've worded it better

/nasa/'s progress is a snail's pace of technological advancements. We run in five times as many dead ends than breakthroughs. And lore is mostly discovery bssed. We don't know what it around the region yet. So we can't figure out how to use resources appropriately.

>>20963599
>But theyre making at least 10 fapfics an hours
In a good day, yes.

>>20963793
Cant wait til you enter nation building phase

>>20962717
i mean. there are many secrets that risuners dont know. one secret being that risu herself has role models and thats what encourages her to do the best she can for her people. i can try to work around this as time goes on.

>>20963565
LET'S GO! I'LL SLICE YOUR THROAT OPEN AND TREAT YOUR DEATH AS IF IT WAS THAT OF MY OWN FLESH AND BLOOD BROTHER'S. WE WILL MAKE MOUNTAINS OF CORPSES TO TREASURE UNTIL OUR BODIES ARE ADDED TO IT AS WELL!
>>20963571
THANK YOU I'M SO GLAD YOU LOVE ROSEMI! SHE'S ADORABLE SO I'M REALLY HAPPY YOU GAVE HER A SHOT AND LIKED HER! I ALSO LIKE RISU A LOT, I DON'T WATCH MANY STREAMS BUT I LOVED HER NONSTOP NUT NOVEMBER VIDEOS!

>>20964060
We technically are a nation. We have a government on the station that is run with votes and laws. I just don't have the specifics right now.

>>20964076
>>20964179
Love is in the air

>>20964572
So is blood and hallucinogen...

/risu/ doesnt really have a government now that i think about it. Its just a crap ton of villages that work together thats all combined together by religion. Is /risu/ one massive cult?

>>20964815
It's usually called theocracy (even if /risu/ seems more decentralised than most RL examples), although I guess that term can be a bit confusing since one country is (presumably) ruled by an actually present goddess instead of just the clergy. we can teach you the way of the cult too...

>>20964955
/pyon/ has a present deity
Risu is vague since since Risu herself didnt announce her presence even when she does
Maybe a theocracy where the goddess is present but behind the scenes?

>>20965081
that sounds about right. She is most certainly present but only once a
ear to collect the nuts.

>>20965081
Yeah, that one country is a reference to /pyon/, which is probably the one where the goddess actually rule the land since she's not only /here/ but both interacts with her own thread and knows of this project. I would say the other /here/ probably only present themselves once in a while, but otherwise don't have a major direct impact in this world at large (like what >>20965081 and >>20965271 said).

>>20965630
/asp/ is /here/ central. Spitting out new gods every month
Fortunately their gods are extremely minor and have low influence.
Like Abhoth from the Cthulhu mythos. Occassionally vomits out new deities, only to cannibalize and reintegrate it into his body

>>20965883
Most of them never have enough following to get a country of their own IIRC. Maybe /asp/'s chuubanite is very varied, but none of them is in a significant quantity/particularly powerful? /asp/ will be a major exporter to /meat/, even if it's probably unintentional...

>>20964179
Oh gosh, you are adorable. Here, have a bread dog for cuddles.

>>20966401
/meat/ feels guilty consuming indies

>>20966665
Aw shucks, thank you! It looks so cute, I love it!

>>20966946
It's a bit raw (since it's usually considered "not their time yet"), but we'll still take it when they die.

>>20952998
>>20955518
I don't really plan on adding a mercenary company, but I guess if I were to, it'd be modeled after the french foreign legion.

Is the infinity rep present?

>>20968566
He's a flip. currently midnight in the middle of the week in the Philippines, probably not.

>>20967241
Also, eating indies have no impact at all to the heavenly realm
Every indie slain is a potential godkiller wasted

/nasa/ doesn't have soldiers in a traditional sense but every citizen in /nasa/ is armed with an electric fork and a gun.

>>20968626
Did /infinity/ ever decide on some city names or an official name for their nation?

>>20968933
We're still trying to calculate the size of our island. If we can get exact measurements, it would it end the gridlock.

Garn bed because it's 1am. Will get back to nasa on the trading stuff hopefully tomorrow. Was meaning to today but forgot.

>>20968626
He has been having connection problems lately, he said last thread or the one before that.
>>20968933
No, with our rep missing, me barely having time to be on /vt/ and our navy guy busy with that, things have stagnated in all fronts for us.
>>20969194
I have asked for this too, as I was trying to make a "mapping out Infinity" for our thread. I guess we could focus on other things while this is solved.

>>20970772
Knowing our exact size will make mapping out other things, like infrastructure and cities a lot easier.

>>20970767
Decided you're going to rep for /rbc/?

>>20954309
>I just had an insomnia hallucination of a half-naked Mumei covered in blood.
I want to have a half naked Mumei cover in blood straddle me and rape me

>>20970767
That's okay. I'm having a bad insomnia episode. We both need to sleep.

>>20971734
yeah, I just want her to disembowel me.

>>20971924
No. I've read a Yandere VN where that happens and it wasn't fun.

Please watch our oishi
t. /meat/

>>20972537
God she seems adorable.

>>20972537
If she streaming now throw me a link and I'll do it.

>>20972709
It ended
You can still check the vod

>>20972537
but my oshi is steaming right now

>>20972176
I mean, I don't exactly expect it to be a nice experience, your organs falling off from your torso can't be good at all.I just think disembowelment is neat, from an aesthetic standpoint. It's probably one of the worse ways to die overall.

>>20972780
I wasn't joking about needing a link...

>>20973293
Aye
https://youtu.be/8fo5IjBoYE0

So how popular is "sex tourism" in this world considering we have various humanoid races?

>>20974868
/uoh/ and /ggg/ must be top tier destinations.

>>20974868
I reckon infinity would be a particularly popular destination among some folk

>>20975428
Idk, can sexual tourists paizuri Kronii? Cuz I don't really wanna bang a clock.

>>20975520
You clearly haven't been properly slurped

>>20975428
Some folk indeed.

>>20974868
/meat/ has BDSM island just off /ggg/
A pilgrimage site disguised as an exotic getaway/trade hub to invite new worshippers

>>20975565
What is slurping? Is it done by pansexual namefags on unsuspecting anons?

>>20975428
I see that filename, Clocks.
>>20976091
Yes.

Hey meat, what kind of "human resources" do you offer for sale?

>>20976721
Pre-processed or post-processed?
If pre then slaves and mercs are available if you need em
Post? Uhhh those are mostly for domestic rituals. Plus it would get spoiled during shipment across the seas.
So I suggest getting a slave that has been properly fed and exercised if you want special beef.
We're not kidding. Food tastes great when the animals are treated well. So our slaves are given the best treatment possible. Free healthcare, short working hours, lots of exercise, socializing and entertainment.
Just like how Aztecs parading their sacrifice around the city and letting them have the best time of their lives

>>20974868
Despite being known for beautiful women, /morig/ generally speaking shares its patron deity's stance towards physical intimacy, being a highly individualistic culture. Love the goddess first, everything is secondary. Or, in her own immortal words,
>Yucky yucky~

who knows about the /nasfaqg/ protectorate in Oppia to the northwest, though. Wouldn't be surprised if you could find more illicit trades up that way

>>20977676
>/nasa/ reinvents refrigerated boats and cars.
>Suddenly /meat/'s reach of goods expand.

...Christ what a dilemma.

>>20975428
>homonamefag center

>>20977728
While I don't think that having a full-blown sex tourism industry would make sense in Oppia itself due to competition from /ggg/ and such, I'd imagine that since sailors and seamen will find /some/ way of relieving their needs with the oldest profession in the world, I might as well regulate and make money off it. Keep everything running nice and clean.

>>20977877
Somewhere a deadbeat patrol captain did a spittake

>>20977676
In the human resources category in the rentry, what does Medicine mean?

>>20978679
The patrol captains are too overworked, battered and tired to do spittakes. He just went picrel.
Some desk jockey at HQ probably did a spittake though.

>>20978812
drink juice, tummy hurt no more

>>20978878
ah,
I guess kfp will stick to an order of Vanilla and Nutmeg for now
also some exotic pleasure slaves for the ruling class if it isn't an inconvinience.

>>20979252
Ah.. pleasure slaves...
We do have them
With or without torsos? If with; it's just torso?

>>20979896
Ah, reminds me of that human sex doll making greentext, good faps were had

>>20977676
Imagine how confused other slave kingdoms are if they pay /meat/ a visit
>I wish to see your slaves
>You're looking at them
>But these people are neither malnourished nor miserable!
>Exactly. Which is why they get the job done well!
>Then what's the point of slaves if they get all these... luxuries?!
>Take a good look at your plate, friend :3

>>20980407
My great grandmother had a letter to a slave owner from the 1800's. Slave owners treat their slaves as investments with good diets and healthcare in the US. Shame the letter got burned in a house fire.

>>20979896
slightly chubby torso, no hair, with legs, arms are ok but not a must-have.

also, since kfp has an opern-port-agreement with /morig/ we need to clarify that our Harbours are a non combat zone and hostilities are to be ceased in our territorial waters

>>20980407
>Be Deadbeat patrol officer
>On your way to return a group of slaves back to their homeland after rescuing them from a /meat/ ship
>All of the slaves are looking sad and miserable
>The expected faces of slaves, always in despair
>...wait a minute. These guys were liberated and being sent home
>Why would they be depressed?
"Why are you looking gloomy, lass? You are about to be returned home to your family. Your friends missed you."
"Yeah. Home. And them what? Work normal lives? Earn money, only to give them to the barons? Get married and have a child? Start the cycle over again?"
"Take it easy, miss. What did the cannibals taught you?"
"Nothing really. Our lives were perfect back there. We had full three meals a day, lots of exercise, free healthcare, short labour hours, all the entertainment we ever wanted, no taxes!"
"You were in slavery!"
"Nothing is ever perfect."

>>20981129
That brings up the interesting question of whether the slaves know they're fated to become BBQ.

Is /meat/ doing this out of pragmatism or they enjoy the aftertaste of sacrificing people that had fulfilled lives?

>>20981266
there's a good chance they do

>>20981316
If you got chance to live free range and do whatever you want, in return doing menial tasks and turned into food, it's a better status-quo than living miserable unable to pay off debts and war stricken
Now I want a greentext/story about someone from a civilized country getting captured by /meat/ only to realize it's much better

>>20981311
Both. Former for work efficiency and compliance, latter for ritual.
Killing off someone with a fulfilling life mimics killing off a popular and influential chuuba god. Someone at the peak of their game. Look at Rushia. Slain while being number 1.
>>20981266
Yes. It will reinforce the 'youre gonna die, better finish your bucket list and enjoy your final days' mentality

>>20981880
holy shit the Rushiyab was a /meat/ inside job

>>20981953
We kinda larped the fuck out of it
There's a story in the doc. Becoming A God. Thanks /infinity/!

>>20981266
>/meat/ captured a masochist
>She learns about her fate as lunch and her womb turned into a living onahole
>Immediately orgasms on the spot

>>20981626
Disgusting mentality. Even when you're at the very bottom, you can pull yourself by the bootstraps in /nasfaqg/ - every successful trader is a rags-to-riches story and I don't even think there's straight-up inheritance embedded in the culture due to how much it relies on personal accomplishment.

Those who'd face a choice between
>Live for a while longer as a cattle, but never reach old age. Never taste freedom. Never taste true luxuries or success, living at the mercy of others
>Struggle, fight, bleed and either perish unknown or rise by your own merit, craving your own path through wealth. Become a lion and live life on your own terms, pursue true freedom, and become your own master and obey no laws except those you give yourself
and choose the former maybe deserve to be the cattle.

>>20982562
>>20979896
>got a boner reading these
No! Bad!

>>20981880
>Yes. It
That's a neat setup. I guess how happy the slaves are to be freed would depend on:
>how close they were to getting cooked (the closer, the happier)
>how fucking miserable their life back home is
>how effective any potential /meat/ propaganda and brainwashing was

>This thread is making everyone a /meat/anon...
>Not that I am complaining.

>>20982668
>/meat/ cults built trafficking ring in /nasfaqg/
>They only capture the miserable poor people that couldnt compete living in slums
>Since it kept the pristine cities clean of dirty poor people and red broke failures, the private police and general populace wont care and indirectly support it
>All the poorfags and failures get sent to /meat/ whers they finally get to enjoy warm beds and good food

>>20983223
Their lore and ideas are just neat

/nasa/ doesn't have any sex tourism. /nasa/ is forbodden from laying in bed with the natives. That said sex is permitted on the station so long as birth control and condoms are used. Once the station is lifted and unfolded then the limited child ban will be lifted. /nasa/ will have a summer of love.

For those that still want to lay in bed with natives know that there is a punishment for doing so. Also if any natives give birth to cross-bred /nasa/ offspring then they better keep them secret. Because /nasa/ will kill cross-breeds so they don't alter the world's evolution path. Though in my opinion its a bullshit law and /nasa/ needs to breed with whoever it can to survive on the planet but hey, its the prime directive.

>>20983323
>And so... it begins...

>lore must directly relate to thread activities
>/meat/ lore is about spreading their cult
SHIT

>>20983475
>does the prime directive explicitly ban anal intercourse tho?

>>20983644
Bros...

>>20983475
Just go radio silent so the home planet wont know about it

>>20983644
It's also supposed to not having our oshi present, and yet some nations do. Rules seems flexible if doesn't broke the world it seems.

>>20983644
This isnt a rrat anymore
/rose/, /ggg/, /who/ and /infinity/ have fallen
/yah/ supressed it even when their oshi is part of it

>>20984077
>the first /nasfaqg/ greentext involves a line about "eating exotic meats"

>>20983238
If they are unable to set themselves free and would rather be cattle, they are no longer human. So long as they struggle and fight, they live. If they give in their agency for a simple comfort, /nasfaqg/ likely wouldn't bat an eye.
That is the price of cutthroat meritocracy and will-to-power plutocrats on top. Anyone can technically rise... as long as they aren't just "anyone", they have some strength and the will to carry it through. /nasfaqg/ is cruel to those who want simple lives - but in the end... Quality over Quantity.

If /meat/ cults are a thing then why does no one keep the thread up? Where are all the /meat/heads?!

>>20984224
Maybe /meat/'s mission is to reunite all the /meat/anons of every thread in their holy soil.

>>20983808
Yes with natives. Fellatio is banned too. The baseball guys in my high school pay child support to Mexican hookers that they didn't slap for not swallowing. Funny how real life influences art.

>>20983900
We're in another dimension. I don't think we can phone home.

I am Moneybags Tako, and I'm here to ask you a question.
Is a gachikoi not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
"No!" says the man in KFP, "It belongs to the poor!"
"No!" says the man in Anya-Petra, "It belongs to the Gods"
"No!" says the man in HFZ, "It belongs to the strong!"
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible! I chose... NASFAQG!

>>20984688
A trader chooses. A slave obeys.

>>20984077
to be fair to /who/ and /infinity/, they both had cannibal enthusiast before the formation of /meat/

>>20984608
should have made them drink hot sauce afterwards

>>20984860
>All militaristic nations are cannibals.
NID.

"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave /nasfaqg/. No, Sir, when a man is tired of /nasfaqg/, he is tired of life; for there is in /nasfaqg/ all that life can afford."
— Bread

Radical ahoy privateers sabotaging nasfaqg stocks so they can steal it

>>20984973
Military fetishisation and ryona have always been hand in hand,from the old Gunslinger Girls years to GuP to the girls frontline holocaust doujin

>>20985089
>he doesnt know

>>20985498
I didn't say it was new, I said NID.

Leave it to the /nasa/ Principal's luck that he makes the native world women swoon for him when he can't get laid by /nasa/ women. Really makes enforcing that prime directive hard.

This is a doujin in the making.

>fast-forward 200 years
>All of mainland Holocontinent has fallen to depravity and cannibalism
>meanwhile, in /morig/, two deadbeats enjoy their sushi bowl meal while discussing the recent legalization of refrigerators

>>20986883
Maybe the isolationist admirals had it right all along...

>>20987004
>/Infinite/ is the prime example of isolationism.
Are you sure about that...?

I wonder if making aluminum alloy with vitubium would give the aluminum any special properties.

>>20987289
Didn't they want to retcon that?

>>20987004
>>20986883
Isolationism isn't the answer. We have to tear out the cancer by the roots. Burn it down

>>20987401
Ah, and here is the hardline admiral.
WARWARWARWARWAR

>>20987392
I wouldn't call it a retcon, it was more of a development

>>20987520
Like anon say, we are leaving isolationism recently, but we haven't actually put lore about it into paper unless you count the Risu announcements.

>>20974868
>There are certain Port cities in the coasts of /ggg/ that have acquired an unsavory reputation, usually as havens for the sex industry. Indeed, the citizens' propensity for wearing barely any clothes have lent much to this supposition, as it is sometimes difficult to discern a half-naked woman talking to one as either propositioning for sex, or for a more innocuous reason. The truth of the matter, of course, is that over the many centuries, such Port cities have taken on this reputation as a necessity, as /ggg/ is the central hub of trade towards all major continents, and the demand has always been there for entertainment of all kinds. Though certain communes have objected to this, from a moral standpoint, and have even banned it in their areas; it is not explicitly prohibited in the Constitution, and therefore remains a gray area.
>Visitors are still, however, constantly reminded that not all scantily-clad woman approaching you is intent on selling their body, and to not "jump the shark", so to speak.

>>20988701
>not all scantily-clad woman approaching you is intent on selling their body
And that not all scantily-clad woman approaching you selling their body are necessarily a woman.

>>20988701
>And do not accept candies from strangers on /ggg/.

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Hey mapanon if you're here, I got around to applying the current holocontinent to the g l o b e, and damn it looks CRISP.
While you're finishing up the rest of the map, I'm gonna play around with procedural stuff for the atmosphere and ice shelfs.
t. /3/cunt

>>20989815
I think that the coasts should be cleaned up, those jagged little island-peninsula monsters look terrible.

>>20990250
Could you point out the part you're talking about?

>>20990452
You get my point. It's one thing to make the coastline look jagged or to have islands, but it looks very unnatural and unappealing. Consider either smoothing them or bulking them up so it can be more than just dust.

>>20989050
basado

>>20990647
Noted, I feel like with more realistic materials those details will be desirable to sell the look. I'll render the map at a higher resolution with the final version, so they should be less jaggy. If it still doesn't look right they can be smoothed off though.

>>20990647
So i don't know the first thing about making maps but how do those examples look unnatural and unappealing? If anything, in my opinion they make it more realistic. IRL earth has a bunch of "dust" sized islands just scattered about, and plenty of jagged edges.

>>20991581
Look in particular at /morig/, I think it houses the biggest number of them. They weren't there before, in the original map, so it's easier to see what I mean when you zoom in.

>>20991649
Still don't see what the problem is. It's just adding detail to the otherwise boringly clean coastline. The idea that it shouldn't have extra bits protruding out from the main mass at weird angles is just weird. Just look at Sardinia for a IRL example, they seem about the same size as well.

I'm happy to hear /rbc/ is interested in trade with /nasa/. I wish them well.

>>20992309
And i bet /who/ would also be interested in /rbc/. With us being right in the middle of them, we could profit greatly if a regular trade route was established between the two, with a pitstop at our station. A great flow of materials, food and knowlege from both ways.

>>20992639
>knowlege
YEAH

>>20992254
seconding this
that's just more realistic, it might look weird on a 2 color palette but with heightmaps and rivers these little imperfections are just a part of a good map

>>20992639
One thing at a time. /rbc/ is "efficient". If we push them to work too hard then they'll drop the deal. First we have to wait and see what /rbc/ wants first. Then we can make an offer.

>>20989050
You don't have the balls. Nor the resources

>>20993173
Well, the trade route wouldn't depend on us at all, it would be between /rbc/ and /who/. And i wasn't thinking about a deal between two countries, just normal traders smelling profit, if they can make the journey. and with us sitting comfortably in the middle, with plenty of tea and snacks for any weary trading caravan passing by, we would be in a perfect spot to get supplies that we need. We might not be the main target of the trade caravans, but that doesn't mean they can't trade with us.

Not everything has to be a deal between countries, as long as either /who/ or /rbc/ establish that they have small to medium trading companies that would be willing to establish a route, that's all that we need.

>>20993718
I keep forgetting countries have companies. /nasa/'s used to everything being station owned. Money is a foreign concept to /nasa/. They know how its suppose to be used, but never used money themselves.

>>20993885
Ok, that i do not agree with. We are a space-faring civilization, money should be something we worked out a looong time ago, even if it eventually all became bitcoin or some shit. And while we didn't have any bankers on board(this is a research vessel after all) money shouldn't be a foreign concept to any of us.

And with the bakery in /who/ being established just the first of what will most definitely become an international chain MUAHAHA we should see a decent flow of money back to the station in a little while. After we have that, we become an actual target for many merchant companies.

>>20989815
My baby! Thanks so much! How about a view on /infinity/. How bad is the projection squish
>>20990647
Yeah map 3.0 is meant to be more realistic to give a sense of scale and more in-depth geology. Plenty of tiny islands flaking off the coasts, unique features like atolls, and sandbanks. Inspired by irl too. Sri Lanka and India are literally connected by a single sandbank.
Once Im done with river mapping, expect more coastal chunks cut out to mimic irl basins and deltas

>>20989050
God I love thematic war plans
>War Plan Red
>War Plan Black
>War Plan Scarlet Garnet

>>20995024
Coming right up, just gotta wait a few minutes to let a map render out.
I'm looking forwards to playing with the river map, that'll let me actually have them flowing on the continents.

>>20995330
God, i love seeing people have fun with this autism. Keep it up!

>>20995024
Here you go, looks quite nice if I do say so myself.

>>20995330
Im using this format for river mapping
https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Map_modding
The BMP uses specific color codes to determine river width, origin point, divergence and convergence points

>>20995734
Kronies, if you may?

>>20995742
What kinda giga autism is this?!

>>20996033
The kind of autism you kneel to.

>>20995742
Ooohh neat, maybe I can use this extra information with a geonode thing...

>>20994980
Okay. If you have plans on money system in /nasa/ then go for it.

>>20996504
There really wouldn't be any plans. While a society that would need money could develop in the future generations, right now we are still a very "we all do what we need to do to help the collective" type of group. Any money that we would get from our bakeries in /who/ and other countries would directly go into the treasury(if not used to buy materials in said countries which would then be sent back), which we could then use to buy materials from any merchants that come to us.

>>20997068
Since we're going to use gold for materials and trade with other nations what we can do is set up a ledger for credits. We don't have contact with home, but we do have the programs for banking apps. If we're going to diversify jobs then we need to diversify rations appropriately. Blacksmiths, miners, and other labor heavy jobs would need more meat and drinking water. So credits would be a way for them to manage their own needs. Also credits would be restricted in /nasa/. So if they want to buy goods from other nations then they need gold and silver. Maybe copper coins too.

Credits can be converted to gold but there's a fee to do so. Credits could be backed on /nasa/'s fuel directly since its a crypto coin. This is just some ideas insomnia gave me. I wouldn't say credits are fiat. They are backed by a resource (fuel to mine coins). Which means there's a number of them. More fuel would also mean more coins. So its a balancing act.

>>20995734
Looking great, the only thing I'd fine tune is the western island is more centered to the two peninsulas.
And does your map include major lakes?

>>20998016
It's /meat/anons map, but you mean this island, right? That should be doable.
Also, no, I imagine he'll put the lake on a different map, or on the river map.

>>20998016
Meaning, yes the lakes will be included, but on a separate texture.

>>20998221
Yes, if you place it here, that would be great.

>>20997979
I brought the idea to /nasa/. >>20998593 Its probably a fruitless discussion to have a local currency next to gold and silver. The currency could always have existed on the station. We'll see how the debate goes. Feel free to add ideas.

>>20998653
Thanks. This also makes it apparent it's probably more horizontally squished than desired? >>20995024

>>20999154
Yeah i had to work with a squished projection so it may not be accurate
Now that /3/ anon showed how it'll look like I can extrapolate easier

>>20999442
Lemme know if you want to see anything else on the globe.

How is the south pole looking now?

>>21001085
/meat/anon hasn't gotten to it yet, but the South Pole is a polar ocean surrounded by the Niji continent and the horni archipelago. There'll also be an ice shelf there.

>>21000780
Im good so far
I just needed to see how bad the projection warp is

>>20962859
language anon here
/meat/, would you like some help?
also, i will be posting updated PDFs soon

>mfw interesting discussions about /meat/ starts and ends while I'm unavailable

>/meat/ human resources
Having the Peculiar Institution wasn't exactly my original intention when I added that in the natural resource entry, but I think it does make sense, so I should probably expand upon that part later when I have ideas. Good job there, fellow /meat/ heads and other interested parties!

>>20981626
I think depending on the type of slaves (which determines how they will be used in the end and thus how they'll be treated beforehand), even menial tasks might not be necessary. Regular exercise will be required, but otherwise some of them probably only have to work if they want to.

I think if we have to generalise /meat/ slavery, then its biggest departure from the garden variety (or theme park version) of slavery is that the slaves generally don't have to work. Some might suffer (like the one in the fleshwright story), and all (barring those who get sold to some rich foreigners like in /kfp/, but they're probably an exception) will end up on the table, but before that they don't need a work output - the clergy will do their output onto them. I think it's an interesting take on the concept of slavery.

>>20982668
In that case, would /nasfaqg/ open to exporting cattles to /meat/?

>>20984224
SEA midnight time and NA work time, plus admittedly /meat/ doesn't have a very big poster base. We can only hope we'll eventually get an EN /meat/ chuuba.

>>20978812
To elaborate on that, /meat/ is pretty knowledgeable in medicine and surgery (in the practical sense, compared with what /nasa/ would theoretically know). In addition to that, /meat/ likely is skilled in making use of enhanced medicine and drugs to achieve certain effects, with the most prominent one likely being chuubanite-enriched meat that will speed up healing speed (but not the limit of natural healing). Just don't ask where the meat comes from, although we do have more at home for those who become unaccountably peckish...

>>20982871
To be fair, depending on the answer to the second question, even the plain truth would be effective enough a propaganda. Of course, it would be in /meat/'s interest to push for the idea that living a happy life for (say) a year before being sacrificed and eaten is an improvement over spending the rest of your day in squabble fighting over scraps of food, which might well be true for many of them.

>>21004618
>We can only hope we'll eventually get an EN /meat/ chuuba.
gomi. she is EN.

>>21004618
Is /meat/ familiar with germs and sanitation?

>>21003305
Currently, we're working on the idea that the language will make use of Norse sentence structure and many of its root words, but with Nahuatl affix (in particular suffix) system. Ironing out the orthography would be nice - personally, I'm thinking something runic, but with additional letters derived from Nahuatl to write the phonemes unique to them. Having a more consistent romanisation scheme (since Nahuatl romanisation is mostly based on Spanish) can go a long way too.
On the language itself, I think introducing some Nahuatl root words (especially those pertaining to religious and statecraft ideas) into the lexicon would make it more organic too, as is making some Norse words into affixes.

>>21004905
Sanitation, yes. We won't want the captives to get sick before their time, after all, especially given how long some of the rituals might last while having the body be... exposed to pathogen.
As for germs, not too sure. I don't think /meat/ necessarily know about their existence, just enough experience to have a decently solid idea on how to prevent infections and diseases.

>>20982079
just another /meat/head, actually

>>21005141
/nasa/ has both alcohol and bleach for sanitation. Bleach is a pretty good moldicide and infection killer. Bleach is great for cleaning up bodily fluids. /nasa/ also has hydrogen peroxide, sodium percarbonate (OxiClean), baking soda, cat litter, and other modern chemicals to clean up biohazards. I wonder if /meat/ has any of the stuff /nasa/ has.

/ggg/ India will never stop being funny to me

>>21005742
/meat/ probably won't have any disinfectants that require modern chemical knowledge and infrastructure to produce, although it does have above-average knowledge and skills when it comes to wound care. Things like alcohol, honey, spice and herbs will be used to treat wounds with decent effect, and things like lye and soda lime will likely be used for cleaning as well. Probably not good enough for forensic investigation, but good enough for keeping things clean and hygienic.
That said, if /nasa/ sanitation goods proved to be more effective while being reasonably-priced (which will likely depend a lot on whether they can be manufactured now), /meat/ would be open to importing them.

>>21006090
>When you visit the chumbuds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

>>21006090
/ggg/ should have curry spices to sell. I'm not kidding. They seem like the perfect environment. Also I wonder if /mep/ or /risu/ would have dried peppers for long trades.

>>21006389
They also hold the right climate for rice farming.

>>21006090
Do chumbuds have designated shitting streets too?

>>21006565
No
It would be designated uooh streets instead

>>21006287
We can produce these chemicals as part of medical but we can't mass produce them yet. We do have blueprints for basic chemical manufacturing. So perhaps in a year's time we may export these chemicals.

>>21005141
i'll see what i can do, what is the language named?

>>21007294
Don't think it has a name yet, but something like "common/vernacular language" might work, to distinguish it from the liturgical language which is likely just Nahuatl, and the original native language of Norse that is likely on the way out due to the creation of this creole-like language.

>>21004618
How often do you think slaves would try to escape when the time for their ritual is approaching, and what do you think the rate of success would be? Would you have had more break-outs in the past that have caused you to have a better system for, uh, culling such attempts?

>>21008220
For foreign slaves, given that many of them were/are captured in raids and are likely not very willing, I imagine escape attempts used to be somewhat frequent, although the success rate might not be very high - those with more obvious will to resist will be kept under closer eyes and possibly restraints (the one from the fleshwright story probably is one, hence he's basically not allowed much mobility), and those who manage to flee from /meat/ cities and camps probably won't know enough surviving tropical rainforest to return to their home.
That definitely will result in countermeasures that keep the current escape rate low. In addition to a more rigorous selection system that identifies and remove rebellious captives from the rest early, an ample supply of drugs will likely diminish their will and means to escape too. Of course, having the idea that they'll be treated better than what most associate human sacrifice captives should help reduce resistance too, as is having the slaves from a more miserable condition before being captured.
/meat/ is also pretty open about what is the most likely fate for the captives, as they see no points in deceiving them. In fact, the clergy will probably double- and triple-check with any willing aspiring slaves, making sure that they know they won't have the luxury to quit once it's done, and most will meet their end on the altar rather than being bought by some chuubanite barons.

1/2

>>21009164 (Me)
For domestic slaves, the escape rate will likely be low to non-existent, if we base it on what few documents we have on Aztec captives. Similar to them, /meat/ slaves probably are mostly content with their fate, which also results in them being treated more nicely and allowed more freedom for any unfinished business. Some might even receive monetary compensation to help with that. While we know that some Aztec captives had to be dragged to the altar, it seems the resistance is more due to the fact that said captives were from Aztec's enemies rather than the idea of human sacrifice (which was pretty common in Mesoamerica), and they were not particularly happy about being freed (the liberators being Spaniards probably didn't help) - it seems for them, the only fate worse than being sacrificed by the enemy is not being sacrificed after it has been determined. For /meat/, since domestic captives are sourced, well, domestically, the enemy factor would not be present, which means they would be pretty chill about being sacrificed - indeed, it might be a great honour to them and their family.

2/2

>The year is 1995
>To survive in a modern world, /meat/'s top industry is offering euthanasia services to the depressed and unfortunate of the world

>>20941571
Alright folks, seeing as it's Friday in most of the world right now, we should probably have a vote post be up within the next 12 hours or so, to have the ~48h it's supposed to be up for, and the time for result processing, end by Sunday night.
No one has come forth to take up the head role for this weak, but as Sakuran I don't want to do it again. There's really not that much stuff to do this week so it should be a fairly straightforward job for anyone that takes it up. One of you guys of the most active threads in this general should volunteer yourselves for this week.
Bye the way, adding a suggestion for this week:
Assuming this vote round also goes smoothly, we'll have mostly ironed out some general organisational parameters for the general; do you think it would be appropriate for us to send another round of envoys come the start of next week, or should we wait until the globe rework and 3D mapping is done?
>>21009164
>>21009198
You can probably anchor these, I made that post as a prompt out of interest on what you'd come up with. Maybe if we get a fiction writer they'd make a story about a /meat/ escapee and their travels to get to their homeland or something.

>>21009934
I'll see what I can do about the vote post.
Regarding https://rentry.org/fiahh, is the pole question still outstanding? I see the other /meat/anon has made the new pole based on proposal 4 (polar island, two straits). Should the issue still be voted on despite the possibility that the result might lead to /meat/anon having to redo the pole (if other proposals gained more traction)?

>>21009164
>>21009198
>Django Unchained but it's a /ameg/ fugitive slave with a /kfp/ bounty hunter trying to save the Teamate's wife from getting turned into pie.
Vitubia would have some sick movies.

>>21010215
/3/anon here, not /meat/anon, but if one of the other options win I can give him a guide to re-work the North Pole. Option 4 seemed to have widespread support though.

>>21010507
True, but if we put it to a vote to begin with, we should take the possibility of other options winning (even if it's low) into account. I'm still up for it being voted upon, though.

https://files.catbox.moe/uaod0q.bmp
[WARNING: HUGE]
Here's the BMP with exact map resolution for anyone that wants to toy around for fun. Be enlightened on how huge your country's actual size is.
Changelog:
>Holo-Niji Eurasia-ish continent done
>Added more atolls, islands, and coast details (Realistic details are still WIP)

>>21010827
HOLY FUCK!

>>21010827
Hah. It chugged up my machine for a bit

>>21011004
>>21010945
Reminder...
This is only the Holo half of the world

>>21010827
Holy kino, will get it globed up asap.
>>21009934
Sakuran, do you know how you'd like to handle the transfer of the rentry archival duties?

>>21010215 (Me)
I've made the draft for the vote post. This is NOT the official post, which will be posted early in the next thread or within 10 hours (when most of the world is on Friday, sorry, random Pacific islands), whichever comes first. The official vote post will have the pole proposal pic attached (not attached now to avoid it being blocked due to duplication).
***
Vote post, 2022-03-25
For all votes, please mark the vote with one of the options provided at the beginning of the vote. Elaboration is optional unless otherwise noted. This is especially important for issues where abstaining is NOT an option.
The vote will last for 48 hours, starting from the time where this post is made. The result will be compiled and posted within 24 hours after the end.

1) Should /wst/ be moved to /pyon/'s previous location, as per suggestion and justification in >>20619938?
>Yes/No/Abstain
2) How should the northern pole of the planet be like? Proposals and explanations are in >>20525386.
>A/B/C/D/Abstain
3) In a situation where a proposal has an abstaining percentage higher than 50%, it has been decided that said proposal will be set to be revoted on. Should be revote happen immediately in the next round of voting, or at a later date?
>Next round/Later date (please elaborate if latter)
4) Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations?
>Yes/No

>>21010827
Also anon, .PNG is also lossless but results in a file 400 times smaller. Maybe there's a reason you went for a .bmp, just letting you know just in case. Does HOI4 only take .bmp files?

>>21011373
Yup
Futureproofing for anyone who wants to make map mods

>>21011606
Would it be difficult to convert png to bmp locally? Feels like that might be a better solution than using bmp for the map.

>>21011646
Only takes a second, it's not trouble at all, I did it because Blender doesn't like huge assets.
Here's a look at /inf/ with this map

>>21011749
only takes a second to convert to .png* I mean
Proportions of the new lands.

>>21011646
>>21011749
I might try to shrink the resolution down
I compared to the maps traditionally used by modders
I overshot by 200% lmao

>>21011826
How about converting back to bmp? If it isn't difficult, then it might be better to have the uploaded map be png instead

>>21011913
Is there a way to test if this res is problematic? I'd say it's better to have high res maps and scale them down when needed than the opposite.

Alright
Will upload a png version once I get back to my pc
On phone atm

Gotchu /meat/bro.

>>21011749
I cant believe that the north pole looks normal when it looks huge in >>21012255

>>21012524
The absolute miracles of projecting geometries on different coordinate systems.

getting close to bump limit. just wanted to point that out.

>>20983644
You have minutely advanced the Liberation of the Heavens.

>>21015782
Calendar Council but they want to eat stars instead

>>21015933
Well, stars' about to get some new meat next week, so yes.

>>21015771
Should still be ~50 posts away. I think we'll reach it within 12 hours, right around the time we're supposed to start voting.

I still cant believe thread autism, chuuba idolatry and fandom tribalism can easily be converted into fictional customs and traditions
Big props to the first OP to find the connections

>>21016105
pretty sure he just wanted to post a map. he said maybe we could have some stuff, but he probably didn't know what it would turn into. maybe he did, but idk.

>>21016224
Maybe he knows and is still here?

>>21016623
oh, i'm sure he is still here, but i'm not sure how much he has contributed since making the map itself.

It was originally meant to be a supplement to the /meat/ levy rentry, but it ends up being something involving both land and sea:
***
Mass levy has been part of /meat/ society since its beginning as a raider state. It is commonly divided into two types - leidangr and ferd, also known as sea levy and land levy respectively. Leidangr is primarily provided by coastal or riverside settlements, while ferd is usually sourced from landlocked settlements.

Leidangr requires every settlement "along flowing waters" - be it coast or navigatable rivers - to construct and maintain a certain number of ships and mariners. The exact number is based on the location, size, and industry of a given settlement - major cities are expected to maintain a larger fleet, while multiple coastal villages might cooperate to maintain a single ship. When a raid is announced, the clergy can invoke leidangr, where both the ships and their crew will be required to participate in the raid. While theoretically a duty, the conscripted ships and sailors are entitled to a certain amount of spoils obtained from the raid. Combined with the potential prestige of participation, it is not uncommon for major settlements to donate more resources to leidangr than obligated.

Complementing the navally-minded leidangr, ferd is focused on land combat and naval boarding. Similar to leidangr, every settlement not eligible to leidangr is expected to provide and support a certain number of armed soldiers, with their size and industry determining the exact number. Ferd levy is expected to be armed to a certain degree, although more affluent individuals can often afford gears of superior quality. When the clergy invoke ferd, either as part of a raid or defence against foreign invaders, the levy will be raised as part of /meat/ military.

Believed to be an ancient institution, both leidangr and ferd survive to the present day, long after the professional soldier core and dedicated warship fleet of /meat/have become its primary military force. Nowadays, leidangr often serve as logistic and transport ships for raids, while ferd serve as an auxiliary force to support the professional military when non-combat duties or low-intensity combat is expected.

>>21016623
>>21016900
I assure you Im still here. I never left

>>21017880
Thank you for your work. I don't know if you ever expected this project to become what it is today, but we're grateful regardless.

>>21017880
fuck wrong image

>project founder is from /clg/
Not quite the plot twist I was expecting

Why the fuck can't you guys stay contained to your own shitty larp thread? You have to piss in my oshi's thread too?

>>21019563
Ohh can you link to the post? sounds fun

>>21019563
There are 41 IPs in here. Dont accuse the whole thread

>>21019658
No, just keep your shit contained. I'm sick of reading about offers of protection from /∞/, trade deals and immigration..

>>21020002
Well, you have to tell me what your general is so we don't send our diplomatic corps there.

>>21020002
lmao this is a board project
it involves multiple anons interested
youre just mad because you have no idea what we're doing and frankly it aint larp shit
if youre calling us autists, at least we have something productive to do in between streams than replying to drama threads and baits

>>21020002
I can't really find recent mentions of those in the archive, so you might have to be more specific about where those come from.

>>21020063
Okay, what are you doing then?
Why isn't it larpshit?
And how is it productive?

>>21020132
Why would i tell you which thread? It would probably just draw more of you to it. It's basically in every thread recently you drop by and rant about dumb off-topic shit.

>>21020185
>says it's in every thread we drop by recently
>mentions of offers of protection from /∞/, trade deals and immigration
>can't find said posts in the archive and ask for clarification
>refuse to elaborate
hmmmm

>>21020185
We're having fun.
It's not Live Action.
We're practicing our writing, history, meteorology, drawing skills among others.
Also, most /vtwbg/ mentions I've seen in generals have been either well received or simply ignored.
Just enjoy.
Also I don't think you even have a post that bothered you in particular, you just felt like bitching and whining about something.

>>21020185
Just tell him to fuck off if you're really pissed off

>>21020310
I have done that but the /∞/ anon keeps coming back. Look i just want to talk about my oshi, talk about streams my oshi does, post art of my oshi, download art of my oshi that anon posts and that's about it. I'm fucking sick of having to read about your RP shit in a thread that has nothing to do with it. Can you and your ''''''''''''diplomatic corps''''''''' fuck off please?

>>21020185
you sound like a shitposter. why would we go somewhere that would draw braindead retards like you back to OUR thread, especially when you've already made it clear you're too stupid to participate in these kinds of discussions. i can't find a single thread where /vtwbg/ stuff is present, and stays beyond it's welcoming. i mean, you could just ignore it, but if you are such a pathetic, thin skinned loser that you can't do that, just bitch and moan on your own thread instead of doing it here. i mean, it's not like you'll make them stop if they don't even realize they are being refered to. idiot.

>>21020419
rrat: This is a /vtwbg/ usual who just hates /inf/

>>21020452
double rrat: This is a usual /vtwbg/ clock usual who is double falseflagging to prop up his own victim complex?

>>21020452
I'm not a regular, but yeah i am starting to think /∞/ is fucked in the head.

>>21020535
Clearly you hate Kronies, not /vtwbg/. Go shit up their thread instead of ours.

>>21020567
No the fag represents your thread here so take responsibility for your ''''diplomats''''
You weirdos have been shitting up my oshi's thread for over a month now begging for a 'representative' and offering 'protection' Why are you trying to force your RPshit onto everyone on the board?

>>21020686
Man now I kinda wish you're weren't bullshitting up all of this, a clock begging some random indie thread for Vitubia interaction does sound funny as fuck kek.

>>21020686
>muh oshi thread
pray tell who then? we've only been doing writefagging over here

>>21020686
say the thread, jackass. we wont do what you're doing here, because that would be fucking gay.

>>21020731
>>21020873
No, i don't want your shit to spill over into it anymore. I've said this already.

>>21020731
>>21020873
He's a /vt/ shitposter, he doesn't have an oshi. His oshi is /vt/. He probably usually hangs out in bait splits, he just noticed a /vtwbg/ while posting shitposts in /inf/ and saw an opportunity to try out new bait. Probably not working out according to plan though.

>>21020992
Sure whatever anon... Forget i said anything then i suppose. For fucks sake..

>>21021031
you'd really BTFO me right now if you pointed out one of those spammy /inf/ posts in your oshi thread, right, anon?

>>21021102
Look i'm done now it's pointless obviously, but why not just go through the archives and find all your diplomatic corps RP bullshit that isn't contained here.

>>21020980
this guarantees it will continue to spill over into it. most of us aren't faggots like you, so we wont keep pushing if you tell us, and we will admonish any who do, but if you don't tell us who to black list the diplomats will jujst keep going over there asking you guys if you cared to do some world building, and you'll just end up seething over your inability to ignore it like the dumb loser you are. we aren't gonig to cease all discussion in threads that enjoy discussing it, especially since it is useful to know how the rest of the thread wants to be represented, but your thread in particular can't be excommunicated for having a single thin-skinned idiot in it if we don't know which thread has the thin-skinned idiot in it.

Moving on, I don't believe this anon is acting in good faith.
Regarding the "current year" discussion from the other day, I have a proposal:
All countries have whatever calendar they prefer, but most of the scientific communities of the world tend to place historical events relative to an event that reverberated throughout the entire world, Kizuna AI's debut. Anno AI, or Anno Kizuna.
With that, I'd put the current year a nice amount of years from that event, so that there's space for all the histories that have arisen since. Maybe we're in 4000 AK? 5000 AK?

>>21021425
this world isn't all of the vtuber community. it's /vt/. the universe was born with kizuna, our world was born with /vt/.

>>21021488
That is a bit controversial. The communities of most vtubers on /vt/ pre-date /vt/. How can countries pre-date the world where they exist? I would say that /vt/ is just what we currently call a world that hasn't always been /vt/.

>>21021558
we've been through this, /jp/ is a different realm. otherwise, it gets way more complicated to accurately represent everything, especially since there are still vtuber threads on /jp/, and since /jp/ still exists. if you want the calander to predate the world, so be it, but it makes more sense to me this way.

>>21021558
So, the founding of /vt/ is basically an exodus or some kind of disaster that removed the non-vt part? pre-/vt/ communities are literally antediluvian?

>>21010215
I mean if we've decided in-thread on how the pole situation should be resolved you can just mention it in the vote itself, though voting on it would be a kind of formality to make sure everyone knows how the lands (and oceans) at the poles came to be.
>>21011092
Well, ideally we'd be transferring the ecit code from rep to rep per week to keep the same rentry archives for consistency, but finding a safe way to do so is a bit bothersome. Instead, what we can do is copy the info from one archive into a new one. If you press on the edit button while looking at a rentry archive, it still allows you to edit the text (but not save any changes), so you can easily copy all the text and transfer it over to a new link.
You could also try to do what the /nasfaqg/ rep suggested last time, by making a set form of how vote posts and ballots should be presented to make them easier to vote on. Also, you don't have to do exactly what I did last week, if you have any ideas you think would be better for clarity/processing/etc feel free to apply them.

>>21021643
Look at it this way; yes, /jp/ is a different realm, we can ignore it entirely. It's got a bunch of off-topic 3DPD anyway. But /hlgg/ existed before /vt/, much /hlgg/ lore was created before /vt/, and /hlgg/ still exists on /vt/ today. I think we can fold in the previous (on-topic) history of /hlgg/ and vtubing in general without including /jp/.
>>21021644
Something like that, yeah.

>>21021796
how about b/vt/ as this thread's iteration of bce?

>>21021488
>>21021796

Ours originally began with .jp/
So our calendar should be Before /jp/ Split and post

>>21021892
Think >>21021882's suggestion is easier to write and is still accurate, since it's before (the existence of) /vt/.

>>21021882
>>21021892
Yeah, I think that could work too. This way the /jp/hlgg/ era events could be elegantly represented with B/VT/. Or maybe BVE (Before /vt/ Era) and VE? I feel like it would be confusing to have our year notation just be VT.

>>21022049
Seconding this, creation of /vt/ should be the turning point of the calendars, it would make sense if the people that just went through an interdimensional portal into an uninhabited world started a different calendar then.
We could alternatively do something like, idk Skyrim, and have the world be in changing eras instead, with each one lasting a few hundred years or so. We could have a Four heavenly kings era, followed by a Niji era and then a Holo uprising era or something along those lines, with the turn of the latter two being the exodus to /vt/.

>>21022212
We can reasonably do both - written history begins when vtuber community starts appearing in /jp/ on a regular basis (which is probably late-niji/early-holo era?), while the time before that is the stuff of legend where archaeological evidence is scarce at best.

bump limit near.

Hi. While I've not been active on Infinity too much the whole week, I do archive reps when I can for vtwbg and our efforts have been dead for more than a week except and isolated post here or there. If there is a 'kronie' doing what the anon says it's a falseflager. Obviously there is someone who wants us to keep being the bad guys here and is draining my energy seeing so much fight here about us that isn't actually our people doing it. If this flase flager or anti comes, please, as an Infinity guys who likes participating in here, ignore him and keep working on your stuff.

>>21004618
>In that case, would /nasfaqg/ open to exporting cattle to /meat/?
Organize, participate in, and round up people to be eaten? I heavily doubt that.
That being said, if a /meat/ visitor presented a contract to an impoverished /nasfaqg/ failure who has given up and would be willing to knowingly sign away their own life for a couple of years of effortless comfort, I doubt anyone would bat an eye, unless there's a plutocrat that for some bizzare reason dedicates his acquired agency, wealth, and will-to-power to "save" those people.

>>21024992
wouldn't it go against /nasaqg/'s principles to steal someone's right to a decision from them, especially when they are such a failure that they would be willing to give up?

>>21004618
>In that case, would /nasfaqg/ open to exporting cattle to /meat/?
Locals? No. Cattle sourced elsewhere? Negotiable.

>>21025112
I think it would be unconventional and going against the mainstream, but there are arguments to be made regarding the true "agency" of someone who's completely desperate.

Besides, I'll be real with you, if you have a plutocrat that decides for themselves that he thinks he should save them for whatever reason, it's their own decision. It's their own rules, and they have the power to enact them.

My point is, it'd certainly not be common but I can imagine someone setting themselves a goal like that. Despite what people might think, despite ruthlessly pursuing profit most plutocrats believe in the existence of a "Soul", a moral core that curbs profit, but separates traders from machines or animals. What exactly "Soul" entails differs from person to person.

Bump limit reached, new thread will be ready soon.

>>21024992
>>21025178
Good enough, although does that mean /nasfaqg/ is fine with importing slaves elsewhere and trading them with /meat/?

>>21025483
Pretty sure you'll see at last some traders be okay with that.

>>21025483
If someone came to the serene republic with a ship full of slaves for sale, I think it a likely possibility that some merchants would be willing o buy them off and sell them forward. The state itself would not really care either way i think.

>>21025634
>>21025685
Very nice... if any of these merchants are interested in striking a deal with /meat/, please let us know!

>>21025421
i don't see how desperation would prevent someone from having agency. it's not like all their options are out the window. they had a whole bunch of options, yet their choice to prioritize comfort during the last few moments of their life is illegitimate because... what? a few plutocrats disagree with their decision? imagine if this logic could be applied elsewhere. someone is about to go bankrupt, they make a risky investment out of desperation hoping it will be the thing that gets them out of poverty, when suddenly some rich jackass says that they weren't in the right mindset to make that decision, and thus lacked agency to make it. they should therefore be "saved" from their choice by nullifying the risky investment. having the freedom to make your own decisions necessarily includes the right to let others make decisions for you, for that is a decision in and of itself. the decision to take their choice from them is what should be considered a violation of their agency, and rights as a human being with a soul.

>>21026025
NTA but one can probably argue that said desperation means any deals made would be made under duress, especially when considering that the deal offered by /meat/ would most definitely led to a painful death even if it's well-compensated

>>21026140
same with the risky investment. they could end up in even more debt, but it's their risk to take, and their decision to make. they had other options, yet they chose their path. the word of a contract should be sacred, nullification of a contract should only happen under very specific conditions, and even then should be generally avoided. imagine the chaos that would occur if contracts could be voided prior to their fulfillment, especially when the only one who disagrees with it isn't even affected by the contracts terms.

>>21026025
>a few plutocrats disagree with their decision?
Yes, I'd imagine so. Most plutocrats would be fine with it, be it by standing by or aiding it, but don't think that /nasfaqg/ is some limp-dicked libertarian state with NAP. I'd imagine it being closer to being pretty hardcore Nietzschean in terms of its approach; this means that if an individual has garnered enough will-to-power and means to enforce it to lay down his own rules and his own terms, he can do that, against everyone and any rule who'd say "thou shalt".

The thing that would be sacred would be the ability to rise up, that is, meritocracy and competitiveness. You cannot deny another man a way to rise to the top and profit, for that would make you a tyrant rather than an anti-tyrant.

>>21026357
>he doesn't know
You cannot force anything in NASFAQ. There are no contracts, there is no entity to enforce them. It's simply an agreement between two individuals, relying on the commitment and integrity of both.
>>21026025
>rights as a human being with a soul
If someone willingly gives away this freedom for temporary comfort and succumbs to impulses, then as I said, they might as well no longer be human... ironically the very thing that would make most /nasfaqg/ traders indifferent would allow others to wage their own war here.

New bread: >>21027241

>>21027105
so you can force someone out of a decision but you can't force them to stay in one?
my argument was mostly about you guys claiming desparation caused them to not have agency. it's a better argument to simply say that the decision to fall back on baser urges makes them an animal, but what profit could be gained by "saving" them if not by selling them back into slavery?

>>21027491
A "decision" made between an animal and a barely human predator, both slaves to their urges, isn't a "contract" in the eyes of some traders, for sure.

You wouldn't think that a dog or a cow can enter a contract, would you?

My point is that you'll almost certainly find some individuals who'd be ideologically opposed to it. And, with /nasfaqg/ as it operates, they'd be able to wage their own personal war against it if they wish if it doesn't cut into the profits of others. Something like individual anarchism or anarcho-egoism doesn't fall far from the minarchist society that /nasfaqg/ is.

And as I said, it's not just about profit, most traders also believe in "Soul" to some degree. A set of rules and morals an individual imposes on themselves regardless of profits. If a trader believed that they can rescue /some/ of those people and lift them up from being cornered animals to being human again, I'd wager it falls upon the "Soul" category.

>>21027928
you guys sure have a strange system. also, what makes you think /meat/ is a slave to their urges? they enjoy partaking in cannibalism as a cultural/religious act, even if they enjoy it, too, unless everyone at /nasfaqg/ hate's their life and never engages in luxurious behaviors.

>>21028158
I'd say that there's a difference between a cultural/religious act which is inherently collectivistic, one that's extremely widespread given how /meat/ parsed its text (beyond just high-class symbolic rituals) and enjoyment of luxury on the part of the individual.

Basically: /meat/ has it ingrained as a mass-scale operation, a collectivist culture phenomenon. It's the difference between a late-stage alcoholic in a society that permits and encourages it and a connoisseur of fine spirits, who does so for the taste, not out of need, obligation, or social pressure.