/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining.

Anyone got predictions on how long until Reflect MV beats Unison? Will it even be able to after the youtube issues

>>20942137
Hey, man!

>>20941607
kek

>>20943600
>i'm so sorry that your fantasy of calling chumkeks cucks will not get fulfilled this time around
>pic related
>>20943201
>>20943080
>Get her membership, unironically. Her core audience, or at least the core audience she panders to are those looking for GFE and increasingly idolfags as of late.
That's too bad sorry she changed bros. I don't watch her in general. I'm autistic about voices and I hate her voice and find her style of humor annoying, same with Mori. Tried both a few times.

>>20944564
Next time don't make claims about someone you don't even watch.

>>20944680
Fair, I was just going off impressions from threads like global and the fes sticky. In my time there it seemed like people were ready to call people fucking losers for being genuinely attracted to gura

Ugh

Where is everybody?

>>20948057
in the old thread

/#/ is dead

>>20942350
You mean beat unison to 1 million, right? becaue just a simple MV beating it again, dunno if that's happening. Doesn't look like its beating it to 1 million either since its stalled pretty hard past the initial day.

>>20948455
Yeah people in previous threads were predicting it could beat Unison to 1m though

>>20944564
>That's too bad sorry she changed bros
Why would I feel bad about it? I'm satisfied with what she does.
>>20944842
>cuckposters cuckpost
Ok? And? Since when has global and the fucking stickies of all things not been tourist central?

>>20948480
It was looking good earlier yesterday, it was hitting 18-20k an hour, but once the Asian fanbase went to bed the number dropped drastically. Like <10k an hour, which made it pretty much impossible to stay at a pace to break Unison.

But it’s okay. Like what was said before, this is a near year old song that ended up getting fucking fantastic engagement, beat Mori’s recent release 3DMV, and showed that hundreds of thousands will tune in for something small like an MV for an already released song. That’s a lot of good for the future when she releases a new song

>makes thread when it's at page 8
>3 houes before last thread archives
>>20942350
What youtube issues?

>>20948853
>when she releases a new song

>>20948853
And YT turned into schizo mode yesterday and stagnate both UnAlive and Reflect views for hours.

>>20948912
Shark brain goes too fast okay
We can only hope

>>20948383
Hey man

Muse Indonesia has 6.4 million subscribers.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxnxya_32jcKj4yN1_kD7A
Looking at both their latest and oldest videos, all of its content seem to be VTuber streams, although the earliest video was uploaded on March 15, 2021, while the channel was created on June 11, 2020.
From looking at their subscriber growth on socialblade, they had just under 1 million subscribers when they started doing VTuber content.

>>20948884
barcoding for last night JST streams.

Shorts update
>Vestia 23k
>Kaela 14k
>Kobo 18k

>>20948853
>but once the Asian fanbase went to bed the number dropped drastically
This here is why it even got such ridiculous engagement despite being an MV to a 1 year old songs.
For many japs, they'd never actually listened to Reflect until Holofes brought it into the discussion.

I can't believe people were digging at Gura's choice of when to release. It was worth holding it since October to use that Holofes buff.

Seems like this particular newbie is intent on keeping the divide
https://twitter.com/minaserioch/status/1506904673831522305

>>20949051
It's worse than the previous barcoding too. At least that didn't prevent people from watching streams or shit from being verified, that shit basically made YT unusable for many people.

>>20949105
Are you Veloxus?

>>20949135
It was terrible. I was trying to watch the Bae/Moona collab and I spent more time in Moona's waiting room then watching the fucking thing.

>>20949105
If that's his intention it is respectable but his manager really needs to have a talk with him about how he words things, especially in a language he's not proficient in.

What's the prediction on Risu's karaoke stream tonight?
>Holofes buff
>rare karaoke buff
>last stream before time off

>>20949105
Kek. I wonder how much Veloxus was seething as he typed that response that denounced his virtue signalling.

>>20949105
>engaging with homobeggars
These new homos are playin with fire. Miyabi is probably sweating bullets.

>>20949063
Nice, keqing lookalike is leading
I thought Aqua lookalike would be the lowest one

>>20949035
It's equivalent of Crunchyroll I guess, and they put on Vtuber content.

>>20949327
It will be a miracle if she breaks 10k. Just a reminder Moona could break 10k by herself with no buffs, and all the combines stacked buffs of Holoes+ 1 million + 100 songs were needed for 20k.

>>20949257

Personally I think he purposely using DeepL to mask his real intention. He actually fluent in English, just look at the way he phrasing

>>20949105
Do people think cover will abandon the segregation when it works for the girls?
They just banned stars from ID server as the merge is happening iirc.

>>20949351
Stop using weasel words. What does it mean that "they put out vtubing content"? Is that all they do? Do they have specific vtubers or feature them? what is the relevance of how many subs they have if they just feature random vtubers? what are you trying to numberfag?

>>20949105
>OMG...!!日本語が天才的にうますぎます!!Thanks for your very thoughtful replies! I'm very happy, but by replying to us like this. We do not wish to damage your policy. I am glad you feel 'connected as friends' just because of that sentiment. I hope you move on as you wish! IKZZZ!
>I'm very happy, but by replying to us like this. We do not wish to damage your policy
Get him a better translator

>>20949105
Is he the one who use the most English in new Star gen? Seem like he witness first hand the "anti idol culture" in the west

>>20949105
I like his chops, he's keen on proving his self worth.
The language is maybe a bit harsh, but what can you expect from mtl

>>20949430
Go ask this anon fuckface.>>20949035

https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1506910823109005314?s=21
kekw

>>20949063
All the have stayed close in subs. Is it normal for new gen/waves to be this close?

>>20949471
Is there even a better translator out there other than DeepL?

>>20949105
Based. This is why I will respect the homos. They will collab with the girls if the girls want to but they won't force shit. I'm wondering if the guy will be a bridge to the EN audience that has always surrounded the Homos. I still occasionally drop in to watch winning son and pizza dad but I don't go out of my way to do it like I do with the HoloJPs.

>>20949105
I hope this is mtl. That's sounds too harsh.

Holy shit I kneel

>>20949588
Too bad homobeggars won't stop trying to force the guys and girls together

>>20949536
Nice Moona
This shall please the numberfags

>>20949051
I probably need my meds, but I think the numbers might have been unculled during the barcoding.

Just look at Kiara, Vox and Mysta's streams during that time.
Kiara got 7k very early in the stream, but somehow when the barcoding was fixed, she was stuck at 5k for a few hours before she got back to 7k.
Same with Vox and Mysta, who were getting 17k each during the barcoding, but both dropped to 13k and stayed there after the barcoding was fixed.

https://vrabi.net/video/oIs-LQ96nOg
https://vrabi.net/video/xXZLtGqcMvw
https://vrabi.net/video/aLDBBadiXvA

Anyone have other possible explanations? I mean look at Vox's graph wtf. Constant barcoding to 17k and then sudden plummet to 13k and staying there for the rest of the stream.

>>20949647
The cull algorithm bugged out while pajeets were trying to fix the barcode

>>20949573
Yes, asking an English speaker he knows.

>>20949643
>virtue signalers virtue signal
They are a blight upon this planet, they don't respect the intentions of the people they claim to defend and think of themselves as a shining hero of justice. I fucking despise them.

>>20949639
BEGGARS BTFO!

>>20949639
100% this dude watch EN clip and read those EN comments on how Star won't grow cuz Cover bar their interaction with the girl, then he decide to apply to Star so he could dab on those fuckers.

>>20949430
Here's some channels I found on the wiki that seem to be affiliated with them.
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Daem
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Stellaa
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Aozora_Kurumi
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Starry_Dolly
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Ririsya

>>20949573
Kishido Tenma

>>20949063
no culled yet?

>>20949742

Retard. Know what beggar means?

>>20949757

Literally. I bet he join just to spike those fuckers. Now I'm eager to see what he will do on his debut

>>20949767
Here, this is the company behind all this, an anime distributor from TW.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_Communication

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1506891209549262854
https://twitter.com/kaelakovalskia/status/1506890801133256704?

The rigging doesn't look like shit.

>>20949536
Moona's a good girl

>>20949105
Based

Is that a fucking giantess in ID3?

>>20949903
With the way Kaela's eyes move like Mori's and Moona's, I'm betting she got Jujube
Not sure about Kobo

>>20949903
Shit, it actually looks really good. Compare this to the newest Niji debuts, lol

>>20949822
Not him, but do you?

>>20949903
>Blacksmith
>Lean and fit
Why can't they just draw this out for a blacksmith, your usual countryside mechanic outfit?

>>20949965
What? Sana is part of Council.

>>20949956
fucking based

>>20950017
Or this

>>20949639
Based
Will give him a try
Other members of uproar as based as this?

>>20950017
This is the stupidest looking mechanic.
Shame on FFXV team

>>20949573
Fiverr translators rumao

>>20950030
unfathomably based

>>20950016
Sana is not ID3

>>20950060
Uyu seems to be heading into BFE path.
Fuuma looks like a bro.
Still can't get a read on Gamma

>>20950013

Then speak, what am I begging with that screenshot ?

>>20949105
I don't even watch the Star nor sub to them befor but if this new lad is an idolfag with an idol dream then it's instance 1 sub from me.

>>20949639
Holly shit, I like homos now!

>>20950193

It's in his lore. Already dead but still want to be an idol

I'm predicting that this bitch will have the best English out of the new gen, worst will be Kaela

>>20950070
Her model is sex and I fapped to her many times. She's good on my list

>>20950196
I give him the collab pass just for this.

>>20950230
Almost all of them aspire to be idol except Fuuma I think?

Even when they want to keep the divide, I want Holostars to fail though. Luxiem makes me hate male vtubers.

Oh yeah, assuming that there's gonna be a 3D office for HoloEN soon, is it possible or legal to sing unarchived songs and monetize the karaoke using Karafun's licenses in a 3D concert with 3D models? Other than monetization, what about shilling merch during the karaoke?

>>20950248
I bet she will be Indonesian royalty, like a Reine.

>>20950298
You want an unarchived 3D live?

>>20950349
Can you name a bigger buff?

>>20950282
Luxiem is literally male vshojo. They're an outlier and they don't deserve any respect. They don't represent vtuber

>>20950343
I'd kneel if so, the richer the vtuber the less likely they are to pander to GFE faggots and play shitty flavor of the month games

>>20949105
Shippers are disgusting. Why do they always want to force girls and guys to collab with each other like they do in Nijisanji?

>>20950298
Unless they don't own 3D, it will be under the same rule as the usual stream which means unarchived only

>>20950282
anon this is pathetic

>>20950298
They don't really want to waste the time using a 3D for something that'll get deleted anon.

>>20950349
Think of the potential numbers for that

>>20950281

Yup, Idol to Fuuma is an oddjob. Ganma realize being an idol is cooler than his mangaka job. Uyu trying to find a treasure that only idol can collect. and Rio is a ghost that determined to be an idol

>>20950452
Let the unicorn be anon, they're endangered animals.

Not sure if we have a new influx of schizos or if people just felt like larping as retards today.

>>20947843
I was asleep but next time make a new thread when it dies and use that instead you tards, stop enabling his bullshit

>>20950509
right on, sister.

>>20950177
Not that anon but the whole spiel about "People against it need to suck it up... It doesn't make sense for the guys and girls to be distant just for gachikois idol fantasies." when all the guy said was he didn't want to intrude and wanted to respect the boundaries just fucking reeks of "I want you to collab because fuck idol culture". If you don't think that's collab begging I don't know what your standards are.

>>20950392
Luxiem is more than Vox and Mysta, you know?

Okay anons, hypothetically speaking, how feasible is a Hololive world tour?

>>20950509
His not even a unicorn anon. Luxiem just fuck his perception on male vtuber

>>20949639
My knees ... My Knees are confused ...

Why r u retards fixated on nijicn lmao

>>20950570
It's unfortunate that he started with Luxiem because the NijiJP guys are pretty cool and from what I've seen a few of the homostars are also decent. NijiEN guys though I can understand giving people the wrong impression of male vtubers.

>>20950614
They're called VirtuaReal sir and nobody in this thread has mentioned them, even though they are a complete shitshow.

>>20949639

>>20950558
To be fair, Vox, Mysta, and Luca are so obnoxious, people seems to forget Shu and Ike are in Luxiem too.

>>20950552
>If you don't think that's collab begging I don't know what your standards are.
Meds. There are people seething that stars are even replying to tweets of the girls, which is pathetic unicorn behaviour.
No one is even talking about a collab.

You think the stars are dumb enough to reach out to Gura publicly for a collab?

>>20950679
Anon, Rio is setting the boundary because people expect them to be another ID 1/Stars 3.

>>20950552

No no no anon, I think you and I aren't on the same wavelength. The point is the other anon calls me beggar but I'm not begging for shit.

>>20950638
Nijisanji has always pandered to fujos which is disgusting. Just look at the Chronoir thumbnails whenever they do stream.

>>20950558
my bad. It's vox and mysta not Luxiem.

>>20950679
if the girl tweets to every fan first, only then can she tweet to holostar.

>>20950726
TBF the new lad ESL is kinda confusing.

>>20950469
I mean, it could work for a fun stream, not birthday/Anni serious of a 3D. It's just that is it legal to probably do that. Theoretically imo, it is since it still counts as a karaoke stream.

>>20950769
What if she tweets at every anti like a certain former vtuber?

>>20950638
Not him but I hope once StarsEN arrived, they can break the current state of male chuubas and make brotubers a mainstream niche.

>>20949903
>>20949989
I think Kobo got keffiy. The bounciness of hair would suggest that.

>>20949882
>Muse
Hol up ...

>>20950872
Cover doesn't have enough games permission for brotubers to be a thing, they're better off joining Nijisanji where they can actually play games.

>>20949105
i dont understand homobeggars, like fuck theres like a dozen other vtuber orgs and massive amounts of indies that already do mixed content why are they trying to change the one major company that does not?

What is the gold contender for today /#/ bros?

5 minutes in and no one posted that outfit reveal tweet? Where are the watamates here?

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506919079432830980?t=32d--JMBwpJ--0V1tx2yWA&s=19

>>20950679
Anon, the homo is just making it clear he's going to respect boundaries and he doesn't want them catching flak for it. It's not even some rando telling the girls not to reply, it's the fucking homo himself. He is a unicorn but the guy replying to him clearly is seething about the fact that he's a unicorn and refuses to interact.
>>20950727
Ah, my bad, I didn't quite follow the conversation, I thought you were asking what the cunt in the screenshot replying to the star was begging for.

>>20950829
anti will be placed in the same category as holostar.
e-celeb only after tweeting to every anti.

Feel like Pekora gonna start a new playthrough today. Maybe Elden Ring? Or FF Origin since she is a known SE fan

>>20950955
ui mama

>>20950726
He's using MTL so it's hard to get what he really means, but sounds like he's just scared shitless from getting harassed by crazy idolfags.
Like debuting with a "I won't try to flirt with your girls" sign to make sure they won't lynch him.
Hard to blame him when people are this pre-emptive and already assuming he'll collab with the girls just because he's interacting with them on Twitter.

>>20941647
The pastebin is missing some sites.
https://mix.live-ranking.com/
https://mix.live-ranking.com/keyword/バーチャルYouTuber
https://vtuber.chminer.net/

>>20950914
isnt like the only major game companies Cover struggles with now Konami, Atlus and Sony? Or am i missing some

>>20950469
>>20950812
They can do an normal 3d live then do an unarchived 3d stream afterwards.

>>20950726
I think the guy abhors shippers so he's already telling them to fuck off.

>>20950924
Because hololive is the most popular company so they expect Cover to do their corporate social responsibility reps and lead by example.

>>20950812
Sure it'd be legal. Them using 3D models doesn't magically make it less legal than the normal live2D. Just that they wouldn't bother getting the staff in for something they know is going to be deleted. Maybe if the talent specifically paid for them.

>>20950995
I don't think she will touch ER yet.

>>20950955
What was the peak she had for her last outfit reveal?

>>20950955
Is it only her or are the rest of Gen 4 getting outfits too?
Watame has kinda felt like she's been in cruise control mode since her solo live and just chillin.

>>20950999
Trips aside, that theory sounds stupid because his genmate doesn't seem too concerned.

>>20951042
I think so too since she literally just finish a FromSoft game. Gotta switch it up since there's already enough Elden Ring already
Well let's see what she gonna pull, she get big number every time she try something different

>>20950999
To your typical Western fan it looks like he's virtue-signaling for help in raising awareness of there being a toxic idol culture policy in hololive. Remember how all the fans rose up in support of Rushia and tweeted about how it's okay to have a boyfriend and that she should be free to be in a relationship with mafumafu openly despite that not being what she wanted at all.

>>20950955
That silhouette almost looks like Watame skinned rushia's model and is wearing it. She already has a short hair ourfit that looks similar that she uses on Saturday nights sometimes

>>20950914
>game perms
Sugoi, lets play apex

>>20951035
>>20950999
Why didn't he use Japanese with TL paste underneath? His intention seems like it could be either of these.

>>20950999
Your take is kinda stupid, anon. I think he just doesn't like people who want to force male-female interactions just because it's a rad thing to do.

>>20950955
I hadn't checked twitter yet, I was watching my oshi

>>20951096
>genmate doesn't seem too concerned.
>assuming they're the same just because of same gen
Just like how Mori is totally fine with collabing with males, e-celebs, and twitch streamers when Gura will likely graduate before she does a 1 on 1 collab with a twitch male.

>>20950638
I solidly in the Holofag / Nijifemale camp but I really enjoy watching Yashiro, I'll sometimes tune in to Belmond and I'll also try to catch Maimoto's events and Gwelu's pure meme-tier streams. Gwelu's draw series were really comfy and I don't think I've ever felt that while watching a non-female chuuba. Yashiro's Ace Combat Zero playthrough and his rhythm game autism are also very entertaining. On the Homostar's side pizza dad's fucking airsoft gun cleaning ASMRs are the only male ASMRs I feel comfortable while listening to. It's unfortunate that the fujobaiting is so low effort / high reward.

>>20951006
I think Atlus will kneel to cover this year.

>>20951096
Rio's roommate is probably just some paranoid kid

>>20951137
Fuck now I can't unsee it.
The bun on the top of her head also looks like hiyoko?

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506919079432830980
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506919079432830980
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1506919079432830980

New Watamage costume

>>20951165
Doesn't matter, damage's done.

>>20951186
Yashikizu is entertaining, hell, almost all Niji JP male are very good entertainer.
The only one I can't stand is Kou.

>>20950914
People can play the same game and still be entertaining anon

>>20950999
Trips checked but I think he's just an idolfag. There's plenty of them around and while he looks to be like a somewhat extreme unicorn it's not surprising considering what the goals of the homos are.

>>20951237
Retards and twitter, name a better combination.

>>20951237
Nijisisters, this is our time to promote NIjiEN to them

>>20951237
>retards taking clear MTL posts at face value
yikes

>>20951237
That's your account.

>>20950914
Please no. Apex is a cool game but I don't want Holo talents to play that game to death.

>>20951225
Looks like rushia

Look at that Holofes buff

>>20951168
You know he's interacting with the hologirls on twitter right? No one us forcing shit, he's just trying to avoid drama.

>>20951132
People being fine if Rushia had a boyfriend doesn't stop Rushia from being a menhera about trying to clear her name that she wasn't dating mfmf.
The alternative would be people being actually mad that she had a boyfriend and trying to cancel her, which is infinitely more retarded.

>>20951368
One of the new homos already flat out rejected apex to astel's face lol

>>20951237
Twitter is a plague. Yo intern deal with this shit

>>20951006
Atlus already kneeled once while Sony gives sponsored streams/opportunities to Holo talents.

>>20951006
Sony is by a 'per game basis', and I honestly thought Atlus would buckle before Fromsoft, but well, here we are. Atlus POTENTIALLY falls by virtue of having Sega breathing down their neck, but they still retain control so it's probably more of a strong suggestion than any sort of mandate that would cause them to fold.
Konami? Yea, it'll be a cold day in hell before they give blanket perms to Hololive.

>>20951237
I still wonder how the hell people that created sites like facebook or twitter still didn't get Nobel prize in medicine for proving that all scientist are lying pieces of shits and humans can live without brain.

>>20949063
now compare it to ID2 before debut

>>20951406
Nijisanji fans like to force people to collab with whomever they want and I hate that shit.
Streamers shouldn't be forced to collab with anyone if they don't want to.

>>20951186
>Yashiro's Ace Combat Zero playthrough
Say again?

>>20950177
You, begging? >>20949742 is commenting on the
contents of the picture. He's referring to "collab beggars" or "homobeggars" who often try to force the issue of male-female collabs.

If you are >>20949639 where you said "I kneel", then his comment wasn't about you.

t. >>20950013

>>20951348
>Look at following
She is already Nijisisters

>>20951445
>>20951006
I'm still waiting for Kojima productions to make an MGR equivalent this year that could beat Konami.

>>20951501
They need to keep the kek in their empty heads running

>>20951468
All I remember is that Ollie was past 100k before her debut, might've hit like 200k on her debut day?

>>20951525
Anya would play it.

>>20951237
To be fair, it's kinda Rio's fault for acting like Ollie had cooties and writing an essay about how he respects her "policy", especially when Ollie interacts with anything under the sun.
Like dude chill out man.

So let me get this straight, Luxiem brought a whole new fujo audience to the vtuber world, these fujos are used to male-female interaction.

Now that Cover is releasing new meat, these fujos are curious and want those Holostars to conform to the way of NijiEN?

>>20951510
Just go to his channel and search it up. I found it in a minute just scrolling through his past VODs(the title is even in English).

> Guillermo feel Toro falling for the exotic cunny meme
How much would Anya incline if she played her strength instead of doing what she does now?

She had potential to be like Kotori from Date a Live
>bossy cunny

>>20951598
No, read better

>>20951301
I haven't really watched Kou but I enjoyed his interactions with hemorrhoid cunny vampire during major events. Honestly there's a few NijiJP males I'm just not interested in but overall they're not bad.

Speaking of male-female interactions, fuck, I actually enjoy NijiJP male-female interactions despite being an idolfag because the girls are not set up to be idols in the first place and the interactions are organic. Fucking Ars and Ex being autists and even the shitshow that is(/was? I haven't really kept up) GunKan was entertaining.

>>20951598
No, you are incorrect.

>>20951598
Anon, Chinese fujos want nothing to with Holo girls.

>>20951617
She could've inclined in so many ways easily but I get the feelingg she's perfectly happy being a literal who indog since cost of living is so low there she's probably saving up a lot

>>20951501
How do fans force people to collab? Especially Nijifans trying to force holos.
They're literally powerless.
If the holo wants to collab with a homo like Mori or Bae, there's nothing fans can do to stop it. If they don't, there's nothing fans can do to make it happen.
Do you think Mumei was "forced" into that Gartic Phone collab with the stars or if she was down to do it?

>>20951516

In my perspective it's hard to know who the other anon was referring to. If it was my mistake then sorry

>>20951510
Absolute kino series. Yashiro is a through and through otaku and whenever I occasionally tune in it's pretty fun.

>>20950298
If they want english songs on archive or even paid concerts, they need to go through the relevant music right societies. They are actually musicians or singers who covered english songs on youtube and they just go through the music rights society.

>>20951510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLEruHcX1PI

>>20951642
Fuck you

>>20951672
If we rank ID Vtubers, what place would Anya be places in?

>>20951696
How? They make up rrats and slander the company if they don't get what they want.
Look at this Nijisanji shipper right here >>20951237

>>20951598
No retard.

>>20951598
You know what a fujo is right?
A fujo wants male x male interaction, no females allowed.
When Luxiem does a collab with a girl, they get worse numbers because the fujos check out.
It's not fujos watching Kuzuha's Apex streams, it's yumejos and bros. The fujos are watching the monthly Chronoir stream and looping chronoir songs in hibernation.

>>20951658
Fuck you

>>20951569
She does have cooties...

>>20951659
Fuck you

>>20951598
>fujo
>male-female interaction
retardchama

>>20951768
Her and Iofi are fighting it out for last in Hololive in terms of relevance, especially after Risu's holofes incline. If you mean out of every ID vtuber then none of them outside of Holo are relevent rumao, so she'd be near the top

>>20951789
Shippers are also a big demographic who watch his streams. He gets big numbers when he collabs with males/females because that's what his shipper audience wants.

>>20951781
Fuck you

>>20951559
Subs for the holo ID branch is probably going to recline in comparison to ID2. ID2 debuted at the peak of Pekomoon and the prime of myth when EN speaking chuubas were still getting started. That plus the absence of culls too. Unless this gen somehow figures out how to stop the culls from happening and/or at least one of them is a Risu-tier singer with pekora's numberfagging mentality, it's possible that none of them cross 100k even 24 hours after debut.

>>20950248
>>20951848
Man, that expression is so good

>>20951866
Meds

>>20951789
To many, the distinction between a fujo and a yumejo is lost because the lump all 'weird female shippers' into one box.

>>20951848
That smug toothy grin has already won me over bros... I think I'm gonna simp as long as she doesn't have an ugly ass accent...

>>20951848
Fuck you

>>20951598
Maybe, but looking through that Veloxusgaming guy's Twitter he's been a holostars fan for a while. Probably has the Rushia drama discourse on his mind too.

Hey that VOD was about to hit 1.9 mil views.

>>20951852
Well, Mythia Batford exists...

>>20951920
Fuck you

>>20951852
I meant all of ID. I can see why she does whatever she wants.

>>20951927
No way...

>>20950727
Holy newfags projection! Are (You) actually a homobeggar anon?

>>20951776
>one retarded tweet reacting Rio having a freak out just because Ollie reached out
Anyone who still believes Hololive restricts male and female collabs in 2022 is a fucking retard when there's countless examples already.
If you want people to stop spreading the stigma, it's up to the vocal minority of unicorn fans to stop seething every time these collabs happen and giving the rest of us a bad rap.
Like you do know this board has a subset of people unironically not okay with holos collabing with males right?

>>20951942
True good point, I forgot she even existed

>>20950955
There are no watamates here, just people using her visage for shitposting

Aaand Bloodborne successfully ends up in the number poison tier, just like Doom Eternal, DMC and other /v/tard-favourite games.
Too bad Mori is a big fan of it.

>>20951701
I thought you were originally trolling, so I didn't even bother replying. But then I saw you were confused, so I explained the context of the reaction. I guess these kinds of misunderstandings will happen on an international forum.

>>20951927
....>1,895,824 views
Oi oi oi, YouTube you gotta knock that shit off.

>>20952024

>>20951989
I’ll just refer you to >>20949600
>different opinions aren’t evil either

People can prefer whatever the fuck they want but, as >>20951696 put, it’s up to the talent to do whatever the fuck they want or want not.

>>20951617
Latechama..

>>20951755
>>20951788
>>20951833
>>20951866
>replying individually
just do it like this retardchama

>>20952034
Let's be clear, this timeslot is by far one of Mori's weaker ones when she isn't doing a JP friendly stream. That being said anyone who thinks Bloodborne is going to be super buff in fucking 2022 needs to recheck when the game was released.

>>20952034
>Aaand Bloodborne successfully ends up in the number poison tier

Mori just sucks ass at the game. I was playing along with her and my crippled ass overtook her in the first stream.

>>20952034
Why is that? I thought Bloodborne is the most well received souls game, like even 7 years after the release there are still countless video essay or discussion about it.

>>20951569
not with those chubby hands

>>20951989
>Like you do know this board has a subset of people unironically not okay with holos collabing with males right?
Really? That's news to me. Seriously. Who the fuck even shares the idol culture mentality here unless you're a gook/nip. At worst, people would just watch something else. I don't think people would be mad about it.

Nazuna’s VSPO news show hits 10k. This really is becoming their Asacoco. And even the Emperor makes an appearance

>>20952034
This is a pretty early time for Mori, like 6 hours too early. Usually she either streams at late burger times or Euro times.
Not sure about how bloodborne performs yet because she did get good numbers with overlap yesterday, but she also bled viewers pretty hard near the end, which NEVER happens with Elden Ring.
It's actually pretty fucked how good Elden Ring retention has been.

>>20952024
Wrong, I'm here although I was busy when it got announced
I can understand either Watamates getting fed up with numberfagging or numberfags getting fed up with Watame over the last few months though

>>20952051
I don't even want to name it cuz i fear it'll disrupt the nature algorithm flow. Shit disappear for 5 days 2 weeks ago then came back and had been staying in me recommendation since then.

>>20951959
Anya is a giant amongst titans. The fact that she mogs Mika's solo streams and can even beat her even with Nijihomo buffs should tell you all you need to know. In ID, Moona is both the indog Pekora and Gura (numberswise). It should have been Risu but the treerat debuffed herself to hell and back so that boat's already sailed.

>>20952132
It's a weird timeslot for her, isn't her usual JP timeslot is around 10pm JST or something?

>>20952143
>Lore and gameplay autism
>Indicative of how well a game would so as a streaming game
Anon...

>>20951967

Actually no, because I'm not that retarded

Can anybody with knowledge of the indog language know if "Stuffs" is just a really common translation error for indos. I see it all the time in JP translations

>>20952167
VSPO GIRLS, I KNEEL!

>>20952034
Ain't bloodborne a sony game?

>>20952243
Foods

Another one
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1506918013286887428?t=cxwZXbuOkk_0zp8o-fIrAg&s=19

Vspo girls always get good numbers around this time.

>>20952243
"stuffs", "things", all the same to me

>>20952243
They don't realize that stuff is plural. I hear it all the when I talk with my Mexican coworker.

>>20952243
It’s a common mistake for ESL (and people speaking second language in general) to pluralize “collective names”.

>>20952243
Americans often also do such misspellings on purpose (especially on memes and social media posts), so she might have gotten it from there.

>>20952243
There is nothing wrong with the term stuffs

>>20952167
It was their Asacoco last year too.
An excellent box push tool and entertaining.
On terms of what she does for the group, Kagaimouto fills the Coco role in a lot of ways.

>>20952086
>different opinions aren't evil either
That's just him being a paranoid rookie.
Its one thing if you skip male collabs because you don't like them and it's another to be an unironic unicorn flipping shit because she's playing a game with a male.

>>20952165
Go check the catalog some time, there's a lot of shitty people on this board.
You're in /#/ so I'm sure you already know that.

>>20952243
Intentional misspelling, very common on the internets anonchamaa

>>20952405
No, she actually says stuffs when speaking.

>>20952360
>>different opinions aren't evil either
>That's just him being a paranoid rookie.
>Its one thing if you skip male collabs because you don't like them and it's another to be an unironic unicorn flipping shit because she's playing a game with a male.
You might need medication. Stop reading too much into a message that was translated by a machine. It could have been him genuinely putting distance between him and the girls because he's an idol purist himself, but no one knows because we don't have the original text he typed to translate into that message.

>>20952354
It's incorrect usage if you use it as a noun as 'stuff' is already a mass noun. Like you don't say waters, rices, etc.
You CAN use stuffs as a VERB, as in "she stuffs the bear full of cash before running off into the night".

>>20952507
Fish is already a mass noun yet we can use fishes
Waters is also a term that can be used

>>20952360
Anon, different opinions are different opinions. Unless you are claiming absolute authority over “right opinion” and “wrong opinion” (something very common these days) people can prefer whatever the fuck they want.
Some people don’t want mixed collabs, others prefer no collabs with (let’s say) VShojo, some prefer no collabs with ecelebs, maybe some would prefer no collab with westerners at all, with cunny, with hags.
There is no absolute morality in preference and it’s up to the talent to decide for themselves what path they want to take.

Maybe there is a market for a vtuber that will only collab with cunny. If a streamer decide to take that path it’s a choice as good as any other.

Shorts update
>Vestia 33k
>Kaela 19k
>Kobo 25k

>>20952633
Where our lord Ankimo sits again?

Nice number for soccer watch-along

>>20952698
Single pov? No.

>pekomiko overlaps
Name a more iconic duo

>>20952627
>people can prefer whatever the fuck they want.
They can, and if they act like fucking schizos when their oshi does something harmless that they don't like, then we can also call them out.
It's not that hard to not be a weirdo. Just don't watch if you don't like it.

>>20952445
That is painful to hear in person

>>20952683
37k. Vestia is about to beat him, unless she gets Susan'ed.

>>20951942
>>20952016
>the coomer-baiting whore
Numbers are numbers, but as we see time and time again, pandering to underage coomers almost never pays off in the long run. Makes a good way to have decent VOD views, tho.

>>20952566
Iirc, Fishes is only used in certain sayings or, looking it up just now, scientific references when talking about groupings of different species of fish. Otherwise, mass nouns being used in incorrect plural forms is one of the common things I've noted that ESL peeps have issues with, among other weird quirks of the English language.
Also I haven't heard of Waters being used as a noun except as a mistake by ESL.

>>20952627
Thinking it's okay to flip out and send death threats just because the female streamer you follow spoke to a guy is a wrong opinion, period.

>>20952360
I don't get why you think Hololive having an audience of unicorns and idolfags somehow results in the guy making up BS about Hololive policies. The stigma has always been about fan opinions, not the company's policies. Not to mention
>vocal minority
is downplaying the amount of unicorns and idolfag fans Hololive has. Hololive advertises themselves as an idol group and the ones who sperg out at the thought of this are the fans of the Holos that present themselves as idols and they aren't some kind of minority. I don't understand this mindset of "I don't like this type of people and they shouldn't be around" when it's literally the target audience. Yes, some Holos don't target this type of audience but that's not the norm, that's the exception.

>>20952755
Flare is actually overlapping Pekora too...

>>20952761
>>>/reddit/
Unicorns bring big numbers so are based, you really want the holos to end up like the niji girls?

>>20952856
The wall is gone, so they are free do overlap.

>>20952816
"We can find fish in these waters" is perfectly fine for conversational english.

>>20952856
Of course she is

>>20952816
"uncharted waters"

I'm surprised Nazuna is maintaining a solid viewership. She even beats Maimoto's collab watch-along.

man, koyo's graph is so sad for me, i didn't expect much cause botan played this and she barely scratched 10k with it, but she was stuck at 9.8k so long and it's slot change now

I dunno if it was mentioned before and I’m too lazy to scroll up, but Mori mentioned earlier that she was looking at her analytics and she said it’s possible that 2M will be hit during her supers reading. Kind of wish she would just do away with the SC reading and make a dedicated 2M party that follows into an SC reading instead of doing two separate streams

The 7 PM JP battleground just out there massacring my depressed fox
>>20952898
>Unicorns bring big numbers so are based, you really want the holos to end up like the niji girls?
funny?

>>20952905
>>20952928
Common sayings are exempt from normal English rules at times, and it's one of the things that makes learning the language an absolute bitch.

>>20952981
I wish that was my dick

>>20952816
>Waters
It gets used when referring to geographical features like springs, rivers, lakes, seas, oceans, etc. American waters refer to these different water sources.

>>20952846
>don't like don't watch
seems to be the majority in the first place judging from how low Fubuki's numbers drop whenever she collabs with Oga. Plenty of idolfags that won't sperg out or kick up a fuss but will simply not tune in. If the girls are actually concerned about fan reaction it ain't because they're afraid of schizo stalkers, it's because they're concerned about their numbers.

>>20952981
Well, now that everyone is free from Idol rep prep, it's time to go back to streaming. It's going to be hellish.

>>20953016
True. All these exceptions that I can't remember off the top of my head, and I'm a native English speaker. I frankly don't blame people who learn the language as their second or third from making mistakes when things like that exist, on top of idioms and all the other clusterfucks that sit hidden in this godforsaken bastard language.

>>20952846
Most idolfags will just skip the stream if they aren't interested in male x female collabs.
The vocal minority that spreads the stigma of how Cover segregate males and females like are the ones who sperg out and tell holomems to graduate because they're corrupting Hololive. A common scapegoat on this board for this is Mori.
It is the minority because most people don't actually sperg out, they just skip the stream.

>>20952856
A bunch of fucking idiots. Feel like only Pekora are willing to move her stream around to keep up the funnel nowadays

>>20953177
>vocal minority that spreads the stigma of how Cover segregate males and females
These are false-flaggers though.

>overlap
>>20952755
>overlap
>overlap
>overlap
>only one 9pm stream huh

>>20950924
Because they think poor wittle Stars are owed success the holos have, and that if holo collabs with them, they will magically incline. But they can't say that, so they coat it in muh equal treatment to sound more palatable and justified.

>>20953177
Strange how that stigma persists for hololive while Nijisanji's similarly vocal minority of assholes which harasses livers over Ark, APEX and singing the wrong songs don't spread a stigma about Nijisanji liver culture being internally toxic.

>>20953024
>>20953177
nrhd, I just interpreted it as you saying the whole group was a vocal minority. In any case, I don't see how a vocal minority of fans spreads the stigma that Cover itself segregates people. Every time I see retards virtue signaling it has been about the fans rather than about Cover as of late. Like anon said there's so many examples to the contrary that the issue is not the vocal minority but the retards who run with that narrative when it's patently false. In any case, I don't see why them speaking out is an issue other than when they're sending death threats, idol fags are literally the target audience so yeah there will be people are going to be pissed if a male x female collab. It's like a cooking show suddenly doing an episode on calculus, of course some people are going to be thrown off by it.

Did anyone ever compile how many songs each members of hololive released ?

>>20953394
Arsonists don't burn their own home.

>>20952932
Wait, isn't Umise one of the new girls? She's already going to apex?

>>20953456
Originals or covers? Most have 2 originals if that

>>20953394
I mean, the stigma exists it's just that EOPs don't know because all that shitflinging is usually on 5ch. That stigma still persists with the JOPs and anybody who watches/cares about JP Holos and Nijis (Holos since these fuckers are literally the same people as the rabid Holoantis). Virtue signaling is mostly a EOP thing so of course you won't see much about that shit.

>>20953394
What, the stigma totally exists, and it's why we call them nijiniggers. Elitist asshole 'fans' who are terminally online.

>>20953411
It doesn't, the amount of people pre-emptively whining about toxic unicorns way outnumber the actual toxic unicorns in the first place. Bitching on 4chan =/= directly SCing a holo or harassing them by @ing them on Twitter.

>>20953489
They're doing badly number wise. I think it's smart of her to cling on Apex hype for now.

>>20953456
The last time I'm trying to count, the grand total is over 200 songs with Azki having the most.

>>20953489
Her viewer retention is so bad. Her viewership went downhill after only playing for about 45 mins.

Pekora Vampire Survivors

>>20953645
Fucking hell, this is sad.

>>20953677
Wtf what's her plan. Isn't she already do everything the game have to offer?

>>20953645
It happens with APEX if the chuuba can't play. People tune in, watch till first death and bail

>>20953677
Will be interesting to see how this goes considering the overlaps and the fact that she haven't played it for weeks.

>>20953394
>while Nijisanji's similarly vocal minority of assholes
Anon, there is a reason they're called "nijiniggers" or the equivalent, and it's not just here. Just check Matome or 5ch

>>20953753
Game updated with a new character and weapon some days ago

>>20953753
i heard that it updated rather frequently, has the dev added something in the last couple weeks

>>20953793
Its her 4th time already. I would be surprised if she gets 30k with this.

Okay, so, if the Holostars being segregated (even when it's not an official policy) is not the reason they are absolute failures, then what?

Cover is the biggest company in the industry with, by far, the most popular female vtubers
How can Cover that had success with every single branch, fail so miserably when it comes to male vtubers.

When you look at Nijisanji you can see there is definitely a market for male vtubers that target either mostly women or men.
I can even guess that the Neo Porte guys would do decently in numbers.
Then why is Cover eating dirt in that department?

What is /#/'s opinion?

>>20953645
>the drop after 45 minutes
jesas, APEXfags are really a blight upon this industry. Dropping someone like this and at the same time bitching to anyone who plays semi-competently like chiichan and aqua.

>>20953865
Female idolfags just never got into chuubas

>>20953886
APEXfags is the least of her worry anon.

>>20953508
Originals + Covers, separated by members, but if nobody did it, maybe I will bother

>>20953865
They just debut males at the wrong time and Nijisanji's males were advertised hard, that's all.

https://mobile.twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1506938459285762048
You'll watch her right, # anons?

>>20953865
The Hololive audience is different to the audience for male vtubers, so there isn't much cross promotion. The Holostars themselves have not proved able to capture the audience they need that was already following Nijisanji.

>>20953832
>>20953836
I still can't believe there is literally a deadbeat in the game. Like actual deadbeat character

>>20950914
Elden Ring schizo?
you finally waddled your way back here huh?

>>20953886
Easy come easy go. Just like JP vtubers pandering to EOP

>>20953865
That strawberry group need to die for them to incline.

>>20953865
Because there's not much crossover between Hololive and Holostars' viewership. The fact that they're popular on the Hololive side is irrelevant to the success of Holostars. I think the main thing is I don't really see a coherent image of what Holostars wants to be. They're mostly bros and they don't as a whole really pander that hard to fujos or yumejos. For example, Roberu's interactions with Animare and Mea are hard to construe as anything other than platonic, in part because of Roberu's stance on that kind of shit, thus he doesn't pander to fujos and yumejos. The kind of environment fujos and yumejos want to see just doesn't exist in Homostars and in terms of bros there's just really no shortage of content out there so it's hard to compete.

>>20953865
The old stigma about them (where cover is still a hardcore idolfag) still persist and it unfortunately stint their growth. They had a chance during trinero but unfortunately Kaoru fucked up and it kills their momentum.
They're not failed by any means but they're unable to capture the general fujo/yumejo market with their male idol route. I think going with brotuber route with occasional idol is a good strategy for them moving forward.

>>20952304
Nasunews is becoming the new asacoco. Both previous episodes are hitting the trending page so this means there's VOD viewers too.

>>20954048
That would put them up against the King and his network though - are they strong enough?

>>20954053
>Nasunews
For a second I thought THE KINOko Nasu himself opened a channel to talk about TypeMoon projects

>>20953865
Cover continues to succeed with female vtubers because they've now dominated the niche where those female vtubers rarely have mixed gender collabs, if any. Even holoID have far less mixed collabs than their peers. On the other hand they have nothing new to offer in the male vtuber category now that Luxiem has even captured the fujobait market.
At any rate the stars collab frequently with female indies and nijis so it's evidently not the lack of male-female collabs that's holding them back.

As expected, Hoshikawa doing better than Matsuri.

Hskw: 8k
Matsuri: 4.4k
Sena: 2k

Interesting how the Vspo anon don't appear now with Hskw doing 8k, huh?

>Sora getting better numbers than Matsuri despite Matsuri being the Master ranked in the team

>>20953996
My dick certainly will.

>>20953565
If she's good then it'll work for her.

>>20954091
If they can game on that level or better, they will make it as brotubers. If they can sing, they can get yumejos as well.

>>20954147
It's still funny to me how Aruran had a collab with Lain and Ririmu more than one time but never with Flare.

>>20953996
I hope she's another rich ojou like Reine

>>20953865
The brutal answer for some of them is that they aren't the greatest of streamers. For others they're just not good at promoting themselves in one way or another. Like, Roberu and Astel, the #1/2 of Holostars, got there through networking(Roberu) and showing singing/apex skills (Astel). The ones in the bottom of the stars are ultimately there because they're bad solo streamers.

>>20951569
he wishes that they had a policy so that he wouldn't have to interact with women

>>20954156
do you mean sara? if so, hskw has been more popular than Matsuri for a while in CCV.

>>20954185
Because Aruran actually understands that Flare won't collab with males

So subaru daily gold? Dox buff?

>>20954235
Of course, just saying how bizarre it is that it's easier to collab with female non-holos sometimes than with holos for holostars.

>>20951423
No he didn't. He was responding to Astel's other comment.

>>20954238
She's not streaming today

>>20954238
>dox buff
Qrd?

>>20954091
I think it's really hard to compete with nijisanji on that regard but they might be able to attract people who enjoys male idol's journey in a completely platonic non-parasocial way. Very tall order but Hololive is known to be successful in letting their talent to find their own niche and flourish (even fucking Iofi and Anya are inclining with their own organic content).
Though I think this 4 members will ultimately help Holostars in the long run because Hololive's biggest strength is that no members left behind no matter what.

>>20953865
Anon, the reason Holo boys are not up to the Holo girls standard is because the great shift in 2020 moved a huge audience from anime watchers to vtuber watchers, right into Hololive's lap (because they're the closest to cute girls doings cute things).

Anime watchers do it for the cute anime girls, not for the MC. It's not hard.to figure that out.

>>20951039
>lead by example.
but thats what they are doing

>Ike and Shu would've wanted to be HolostarsEN than be in a fujo pandering group where they only do SC readings rather than make content
What do anons think about this? Clearly the both of them knows where to cross the line, and aren't money hungry. Ike was an utaite as a PL, but he isn't spamming them. Shu wanted to be in StarsEN, but his application was naught due to Cover only accepting females at the time. They are also good in Japanese, but there's no collab buddies from JP other than Oliver whereas StarsJP would've wanted to hang out with them. It was mistake for them to jump in so early.

>>20954271
It shouldn't be bizarre, Hololive is an idol group, of course they're hard to collab with as a male.

>>20954153
>Vspo anon don't appear now with Hskw doing 8k, huh
For the record HSKW is likely being debuffed by Matsuri, after her good performance at her last tournament she could easily be doing 10k with APEX

>>20954324
archive reps for around 12 hours ago

>>20952107
looks cute. Who?

>>20954307
https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1506933712151519233
9PM

>>20954307
She hasn't put up a frame but she said on twitter she wants to do either VS or Sausage Legends gacha.

>>20954424
Aku

>>20954398
>What do anons think about this?
I'll be brutally honest: very few people here really care about either NijiBoys or HoloBoys and the constant attempt to "nudge" the topic in their direction, specially when it has nothing to do with numbers, is a little tiresome.

The only reason Kuzuha, Vox and Mysta, Hal and when he's in a stream, Ibrahim gets a mention here is because of their numbers. The rest of the midgets generate no interest for the most part

>>20952761
There's something called "setting expectations" which is what the dude is doing in his tweet.
He's making it clear that there will be no collab leeching attempts from his with respect to the hologirls. The audience that is fine with that can feel free to watch him.
Same way Suisei recently reaffirmed her anti-gachikoi stance for her newer viewers.

Fanbase cracking almost ALWAYS happens because you set an expectation for your fans (either intentionally or not) and then break that expectation.

A good example is Nijisanjii EN being introduced for the first THREE waves as a comfy all-girls group with more freedom than hololive, and their interactions with the JP males did not go beyond nervous senpai-kouhai stuff.

They got the audience that wanted holo style atmosphere but without excluding males, and a little more 'family' style atmosphere let's say.

And then Luxiem debuted, and the entire group went into VShojo territory, vulgar jokes, sucking cocks, more collabs than solo streams etc.
The fans that got their expectations wrecked with either find some way to cope with it and become bitter tribals, or quietly leave to find someone else that serves their niche.

>>20954398
I think they're fine where they are, and they'll probably be more successful than if they had joined StarsEN. Manjisanji isn't just a meme for a reason, and audience expectations can set the tone. Also, even if Vox/Mysta/Luca are panderers, Shu and Ike are fine since they've drawn the borders of what they're comfortable doing and the fujo/yumejo of the other three won't force things on them.

>>20954398
I think they're fine, they're making decent money and from what I hear aren't needing to go all in on homo stuff.
HolostarsEN has the potential to be an absolute landmine. No guarantees how it ends up.

>>20954361
They're not leading in a direction that those people would like.

>>20954398
I could kinda sympathize Ike. His PL was kinda big, not as big as Irys but okayish. He would've wanted to have a 3D concert every year or travel to Japan to meet/network with prominent Japanese music makers without the label tag. He's just rotting his talents right now being in Niji and his 3D debut would be scheduled next year or 2024.

>>20951039
>corporate social responsibility
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I hope this is a sarcastic way to dunk on the retards that believe that's a thing and not something said unironically

Twappi…

>>20954587
I believe that is the way they actually believe, just see the praise cover gets for seemingly accepting trannys when they just don't want to get into trouble with the cancerous west.

>>20954459
>Sausage Legends gacha.
the fact that she actually likes the game and played it before she became Subaru is really funny to me

>>20954611
Her last Okami stream got, like 6k. She's fine.

>>20953489
her yellow background gives me NijiIN vibes, idk why...

>>20954611
>>20954650
She's reading SC

>>20954541
good thing there seems to be more than enough people who either don't care or want that kind of thing. with a lot of those people being willing to pay for it

>>20951039
>csr
Kek
>lead by example
Well as we can see from the western vtuber companies, they want to avoid "le toxic idol culture" that Hololive has.

>>20954627
>the praise cover gets for seemingly accepting trannys
Wut? Since when japanese have any problem with boys in dresses saying they're girls or vice versa?
The only difference from the west is that they treat these people with the same respect (or contempt) as they treat the hikikomori, the fujos and Yakuza: they accept their existence but without putting in a pedestal.

>>20954688
She just swapped to SC reading. That was her legitimate numbers playing. She peaked at something like 3500 this stream or something

Will the holos actually use the raid feature when it gets implemented? I can imagine it forming cliques on the eyes of the fanbase and retarded dramas.

>>20953865
They don't have identity. Hololive is known as a wacky streamer/idol group. I don't know what the stars is supposed to be. My personal theory is they're trying a different approach for UPROAR. Maybe they'll focus hard on pandering to jp fujos.

>>20954765
Time will tell. For relays they wlll, 100%

>>20954765
Maybe for a relay or to funnel into a 3D live

>>20954785
Anon, all Uproar member except Fuuma are idolfags

>trannies
I'd kneel so goddamned hard to Cover if they went Takarazuka Revue for their next holoJP spin-off after Gamers and cast 4 girls playing guys, and they STILL wouldn't collab with actual males. EOP fans would have such a headache.

>>20954765
>>20954791
If they ever use it out of relays the most likely scenario would be generations funneling to each other or sub units.

Ahhh Pekora will finally play the (used-to-be)FOTM game. Potential gold for tonight? I don't think Risu can win with her karaoke even if I still expect some neat numbers from her part as well.

>>20954765
Probably, at least testing out the feature to funnel people into their genmate's streams and possibly to the low tiers if it's a thing that is going to take off. But i wouldn't be surprised if they downplay it and say that they very much prefer to say where people are going themselves to avoid any associated drama.

>>20954765
Absolutely not. There’s no way in my mind that you can whitelist only specific channels (aka holos) so you’re left with a ton of random bullshit where people can raid and cause a disruption in one’s chat space. If you could actually whitelist that would be actually neat since funneling and bringing awareness to X person streaming would fix a lot of potential problems for streamers getting traction. Like for example yesterday, imagine a scenario where Ina could send her viewers over to Gura rather than them manually having to come find her. You’d likely have a lot more possible retention

At the same time though, Holos pride themselves on keeping chats in check and raids could cause problems with that

>>20954839
To be honest, i'm surprised that market have been barely tapped considering how crazy those type of people can get for it.

>>20954462
>those comments and updoots
Not even reddit is interested in Stars. No wonder Cover still segregates everyone.

>>20954900
Anon she already played it a few times

>>20953957
>>20953998
>>20954040
>>20954147
but that's what I am saying, anons
forget about the traditional hololive audience

why can't they capture some of the audience that Nijisanji has
and Nijisanji guys don't have only the fujo/yumejo audience

we already had pictures posted today about female audience and it's not the majority of people like Kuzuha/Fuwa/Ibrahim or even Kanae

and people like Yashiro, Maimoto, Joe, Ex Albio have the vast majority of their viewers be male

why can't Stars capture that audience?

>>20954611
Okami doesn't get many viewers and is hit especially hard by overlap.

>>20954765
No for the same reason why they are not allowed to member each other using their Hololive account.

I'm trying to understand what the fuss about Bloodborne was. Was it just a
>nehnehneh, you can't play Bloodborne, haha
or something?

The buzz about Calli getting permission was bigger than the buzz about Calli actually playing it

>>20954930
Market's saturated and they're not talented enough to draw attention on their own merits. Maybe if they had a real groundbreaker like Coco.

>>20951039
>csr
What is this meme? CSR is just marketing with extra steps

>>20954765
Probably only for relays and events that everyone stops for anyway.

>>20954462
This honestly makes me a little upset, they got the buff of being announced during the expo and even got some of the girls shilling for them and still underperform in comparison to the ID branch.

>>20954930
Read anon read
>I think the main thing is I don't really see a coherent image of what Holostars wants to be. They're mostly bros and they don't as a whole really pander that hard to fujos or yumejos. For example, Roberu's interactions with Animare and Mea are hard to construe as anything other than platonic, in part because of Roberu's stance on that kind of shit, thus he doesn't pander to fujos and yumejos. The kind of environment fujos and yumejos want to see just doesn't exist in Homostars and in terms of bros there's just really no shortage of content out there so it's hard to compete.

>>20954949
Well she kinda suck at playing it

>>20954909
I can imagine someone like pekora letting any raids enter her stream for some reason.

>>20954900
What's to beat? Does the SubaOka Mario Kart count as today?

>>20954949
It's basically an official grudgepost.

>>20954949
It's just that one permission schizo.

>cat sub 10k waiting
Neo porte…

>>20955013
tbf ER muscle memory is screwing with her

>>20954949
It doesn't help that her gameplay is...
Well, for someone who's apparently cleared it multiple times, it's not very exciting, and she's not going into it blind either so that part is gone.

>>20954949
She's so fucking bad a these games even though she "loves" these. Around the same level of skills as Sharky.

>>20954915
Yeah, it's not a very big market but the supply for it is almost non-existent as far as corpos go, and indies can't exactly pull off the whole song and dance stageplay as easily as a corpo could. Given how cheap debuting vtubers can be it wouldn't hurt to throw some spare cash at the concept.