/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

I hope someday vt implement an ID system because this hour is getting retarded.

How did Moris new song crash and burn so hard? Full MV, new original, 3D model reveal, everything was in its favor

>>20877586
we've been asking for IDs since pretty much the day the this board was created but the meidos would rather ban O M T 3 C W instead while leaving doxx sites free to be posted

Socialblade graphs for the subscriber counts of recently debuted VTuber gens/groups:
Nijisanji's Ranunculus, NoriPro Gamers, MAHA5 Gen 3, WACTOR Gen 4 (GATE), and the last 2 graphs for Neo-Porte.

>>20877692
Song great. MMD was a nono. I hated Kanaurus style oh halloween, but he did great on smol advemture. Would have been a better choice or Watamates production

>>20877586
I'd still prefered seaniggers than yesterday's seething 2views. You can educate and shitting on stupid seatourist but not the shitflinging 2views

>>20877692
? it's got close to 500k views and it hasn't even been 24 hours since release
it's doing fairly well I'd say

I'm surprised haachama is going to beat matusri to a million followers on Twitter since festival was easily ahead of her

What's the sub count for Uproar?

How do we deal with the fact that kizuna ai and nyanners did better than link your wish?

on this day, mankind recieved a grim reminder...

Jeez, Reflect is about to mog Kuzuha again.

>>20878810
Reflect is an old song, let that sink in

>>20878738
they're all around 15k right now

>>20878788
a literal titan mannequin lmao

>>20878788
The nipples are particularly protruding.

>>20878853
Man, I remember the time when Holostars were struggling to break 10k. It's good that they have grown at least.

>>20878738

>>20878810
What's even funnier is that Reflect is going to finish ahead of UnAlive on the weekly originals chart, lmao.

>>20878945
>all at least 150k subs
>most of them can even barely get 50 viewers
kek, EOP tourists at their finest

>>20878964
Will they count it?

what's your favorite number? i like 27

>>20878980
>most of them can even barely get 50 viewers
anon all of them are 3 views. They are stars, not nijis

>>20878810
Is she not going to pin the MV like with the TOL cover?

>>20878788
what the fuck kek

>>20878964
Yeah, its weird. I absolutely LOVE Mori's new album and I think it shows unreal growth for her as an artist. Its really fucking good. However, I think UnAlive is one of the weaker tracks on the album and that is the one that got an MV.

Scuffed up Age would have been my choice for the MV since its different from anything she has put out before. Resting Power would have been good too but it has some similar vibes to End of a Life and it seems like she wanted something different for her first MV.

>>20878980
¿?????¿?????¿??????¿???????¿??¿??¿????¿????????????????????
I really don't get why blatantly lying about any HoloPro member's numbers is so popular given the existense of Holostats, on top of all the other tools that now exist for numbers tracking.

>>20878810
Isn't his song not available to some region because of his record label? I remember seeing some screenshot about it.

>>20878049
Jeezas, look at that gap between Yui and everyone else in NeoPorte who hasn't debuted yet
Is it because of the Bora rrats or something else?

>>20879148
>obvious baiting for (you)

>>20879134
Wait, people actually buy Mori's album? Why would they listen to that flop?

Since we're talking songs, a few i got recommend:
Millie-Enna identity crossed 1 million views, 3rd video from NijiEN to do so.
https://youtu.be/OYL_a_HZzLY

Uki's Deja Vu already has a one take cover, from the Taiwan (Japanese) vtuber Mizuki - 10k in 20 hours, but a first nonetheless
https://youtu.be/bVdlv184Kik

Towa's releasing a cover with Miko, Polka, Aki and Iroha in a few hours
https://youtu.be/D8pdSRs_C4o
Towa gets to pop Iroha's cherry, since her own cover never came out

>>20879297
Because they like her music

>>20878980

They get atleast 300-500 views consistently. So who's the real tourist here ???

>>20879328
Kek. NijiEN inclining
Enna got 1mil views for her song but Gura can't

>>20878980
Anon, they're not Niji ID

>>20878788
Gura cant compare

>>20878788
Imagine if this is for auction lmao

>>20879393
Cover actually lost a lot of money from HoloExpo because of that Gura statue. Yeah, their business sense sucks.

>>20879297
are we doing that thing again where you think that by spamming somethign alot on a mongolian cave painting forum it becomes reality?

I admit this thread might be wrong on number all the time but when I look at casual numberfagging outside of this place it all so wrong that it's painful to look at. Full of people who made up number to make their chuuba look better and a ton of people going along with it. At least in this thread people would shit on you for posting wrong number

>>20879265
Clearly, and one (you) is all they get from me since someone else has already corrected them, if any idiots believe their nonsense after that they can't be saved.

>>20879437
Its true and I saw it myself. A ton of potential paying guests UOHHHHHHHH'd way too hard and had to be sent to the hospital.

>>20879461
>replying to obvious bait
Deadbeats...

>20879385
Here's some half (You)

>>20879479
Yea. I'd rather nijifags shit on some dumbass holodrone pushing bullshit numbers in /#/ over letting blatant misinfo stand, but it's pretty clear much of the time that those that numberfag outside of /#/ are either baiting for (you)s or are making shit up completely.

Jesas, Moona’s grind isn’t over yet. After that 24-hour stream, she still has a collab with Bae later tonight as well as a collab with Kronii in a couple of days.

>>20879479
It's not the end of March, but Hololive already won the month, so nijiniggers are left playing with imaginary numbers.

>>20879554
Holobronies have to cover for their failed Link Your Wish. Licking Yagoo's anus can cause long-term effects.

>>20879561
She's smart, unlike some treerat...
for fucks sake Risu

Oh hey, rimjob anon is back. Or is it really him?

>nijirimmer is back

>>20879594
Eeeey our resident anal-rimming schizo's back!

>>20879594
I don't believe you're the real Tonguing Yagoo's Anal Juice schizo. Say something only they'd know.

it's all so tiresome...
they're the same baits that get posted every day too. just don't reply and all replies to it are self-replies.

someone needs to make a hololive version of this image

>>20879720

>>20879616
>>20879625
>>20879632
>>20879637

Fucking hell at lest give the guy a better name

>>20879744
perfect

>>20879594
How do you know that anon? Stop looking

>>20879748
no, he's the rimjob dude now

https://youtu.be/tGRjGXC77tc

Since EN gold is a shitpost anyways, I propose the idea that we hereby add Tsunomaki Watame of Hololive EN 4th generation as part of the tally

so if the retard is back itt, who's shitting up the catalog?

I don't understand why we can't have a peaceful numberfagging day

>>20879825
EN Gold is very prestigious. Don't sully its name.

>>20879748
Fine, Anus Connoisseur then

>Next to 2 000 000.
A reminder that Mori Calliope has basically reached 2millions subs already.
Usada Pekora is 100k away from the target and will probably get it in june.
Houshou Marine is 150k away and might overtake pekora if she can fully return.
Shirakami Fubuki is 140k closer but I dont think she can stay ahead of Marine if she comeback since Fubuki sub growth is the same as the latter.
Inugami Korone is 200k away but she doesnt seem to gain a lot per month.
Finally to my grand surprise Amelia Watson is the last one with a big sub gap between her peers.She's 370 000 away from the 2 millions and with her current growth it would take her 37 months or in another term 3 years and 2 months to get it.

>>20877797
>banning Mikoboat
wow and here i thought /vt/ couldn't get any more shit.
https://files.catbox.moe/sj6ukq.mp4

>>20879923
It’s a weird fucking thought that Gura is going to hit 4 million subs before a single JP hits 2 million

>>20879923
Lot of tourist subs, cant even sell as much as suisei's first album

>>20880040
only if she put out more music

UnAlive 600K views

>>20879923
>A reminder that Mori Calliope has basically reached 2millions subs already.
She didn't deserve it

>>20879594
rimjob schizo!
Your ban expired huh
welcome back! and continue seething for us.

Taku Inoue collab with Suisei 2.3 million views
https://youtu.be/LYFciXBcXIQ

Taku Inoue collab with Mori 519k views
https://youtu.be/YO1V9fn7zYo

That's gotta hurt.

>>20880173
Go back to the catalog shitter. We respect Mori here since she brings good numbers.

>>20880113
Suisei is the incontested superstar Of Hololive Music, it's not surprising.

>>20880244
Huge oof

>>20880244
The Mori one had to be re-uploaded due to an issue with the original upload. Not a fair comparison.

>>20880244
You know why.

Since he had to re-upload the Mori one due to an audio issue and mori's tweet about it still has the old link.

Also, 3 12 is a much better song.

Does anyone know how to use these?

>>20880134
Nah she’s got it in the bag already so long as she doesn’t go on another major break or gets sick. Right before Holofes when she went on a channel break to prep for it, she was getting 10k on every 4th day. That was consistent for over a month so if you go by that, she’d have 3.89M by the time March ends, which would mean she’d hit 4M by late May

>>20880040
Gura in term of subscribers is such an anomaly.

>>20880313
That's not going to account for a 1.8 million view difference.

>go to sleep
>come back to check on numbers
>ANUS LICKING RIMJOB YAGOO REEEE
i don't know what i missed and honestly i don't feel like catching up with this.
anyway twaps Okami part 6 is slowly crawling to 5k. bit depressing considering part 1 was able to clear 10k and had a 7k average but long rpgs do be like that. dosen't help that twaps not the brightest tool in the crayon box

>>20880463
don't worry too much about it

>>20880396
Fuck off nigger

>>20880463
It's some seething 2view lashing out that the mean holobronies won't share their views with her, don't worry about it

Is Sekiro a debuff or just neutral for EN audiences? IRyS is getting middling numbers for her first stream of it - ~6500, which I think is about par for the course for her.

I know Gura plans to play it in lieu of ER, though I dunno if she'll actually stream it. Wonder what numbers she'll get for her first stream of it.

>>20879923
Oh and I forgot the ask, for the more experienced numbers bros here what would it take for Korone and Ame to boost their subgrowth at a reasonable pace?
They're both "only" gaining 10k per months it's going to take forever for them to reach the 2 millions at this rate.

>>20880173
Fuck off mate, only number matters here

>>20880664
15k+, people will check to see if this turns out like muse dash again.

>>20880664
Too much overlap

>>20880664
looking at her streams this month id put it as slight debuff
her ER got around 8k as did MC and Power Wash sim

>>20879594
The numbas don't lie schizo

For a moment I thought Reflect was slowing down a bit, but it looks like Youtube is actually still sending out chunks 9 hours into processing. It was stuck at 440k then jumped to 444k and then another set to bring it to 448k.

I originally said 800k at 24 hours but if Youtube is pulling some bullshit like this we might see 900k

>>20880710
Drop a song, maybe go viral somehow.
Really though I get the feeling that they are kinda "maxed out" as far as vtuber audiences go and this might just be thier growth cap

>>20880855
If REFLECT reaches 1M faster than Unison, it will make Kuzuha Vampire creampied by HoloEN.
REFLECT/ KING/Vampire/Q/REFLECT (MV)

>>20880463
She stacked a stupid amount of debuffs for this stream. Part 6 of fucking Okami, only announced it less than 2 hours before starting, beginning at 5pm JST before everyone is home, she even reused her ramiel cancelled frame from yesterday. Just look at the likes graph lol. About 22 minutes into the stream she got a stomache ache and went afk for a few minutes to get something for it. She went up around 300 viewers, signifying that even all her regulars were still coming in. And it's still getting a higher peak than part 2, 3 and 4 of her Okami playthrough.

>>20880786
Towa is many...

>>20880879
Ame is already viral anon, twice in fact

>>20880786
It started in overlap, but it's been a while since it's only her and Towa who're streaming, and she didn't really incline. She went to 6K5 when Mori ended, and she didn't gain a thing after Kronii ended

Damnit Cover, stop downplaying your stars gen and give them good rigging for once like HoloX.
https://twitter.com/hizakigamma/status/1506556685128663043?t=sOSdMCtTnygZJ-LuIF-Qsw&s=19
On the bright side, the rig is better than niji new debuts even going as far as saying edengumi's rig was shitter but man, the rig is still StarsJP tier level of shit.

>>20880961
how long does it have to be able to beat Unison?

>>20881050
Pretty much no audience overlap for old sonic game and Sekiro/soulsborne game.

>>20881087
what do you mean? that rig is pretty good

>>20880961
I don't know what your funny words mean but reflect was a unfortunately shit song and unison is kino

>>20881087
Much better than anything Niji has put out for rigs.

>>20881131
It looks pretty stiff

>>20881161
cool story bro

>>20881197
That rigging is good. If it looks stiff usually because the person is not used to it yet.

>>20881197
I think it's the art style that the stars have. they all have the "stiff" look to them

>>20881225
What does Miko mean by that?

>>20881109
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only) (20th Mar 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m

Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m

Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) -13d 6h 0m
Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14d 18h 10m
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
Journey of a thousand years (Holomyth) - 19d 17h 46m
Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
Play dice (Hakos Baelz) - 20d 8h 7m

HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) - 29d 23h 9m
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m
High Tide (Moona) - 30d 2h 55m
Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m

Bye bye Rainy (Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

>>20880879
Ame was getting 10k per week until this january I dont think she's maxed out yet.
And Korone should maybe try a buff game? All im seeing are ps2 era games and indie games.

>>20881318
Ame downplayed herself starting from Feb 2021 playing shitty games

>>20881022
well me calling her not the smartest was about her puzzle solving skills but i guess it fits for this as well.
thanks to her reusing the frame she is also not to be found on jetri right now so anyone who uses that to catch streams is fucked

>>20881318
Korone playing consecutive modern buff game.. Well good luck with that.

>>20881273
ah ok. I think it'll be 1h less than Unison

>>20880710
>>20881318
>>20881344
Really, Ame just needs to get out of her bullshit and stream a bit more. Now that she finished moving house she might recover for a bit.

>>20878788
Clarification for EOPcuties: this statue gets dressed up for ads all the time. It's 50 years old.
Here's a list of all her clothes.
https://www.e-meitetsu.com/mds/f_nana/about_nana/

>>20881242
It's the same kind of rig stars is currently using. The upper body moves like a stick. Compare it to HoloX, it looks way shittier when Cover could've spent a bit more for the rig.

>>20881419
With these new waves of views coming in, it’s almost assured she’s reaching a million before Unison. The question is now is how much more traction will she get from the audience in the coming hours because right now, it’s COMPLETELY possible it reaches a million in 24 hours. 40k an hour would put her in that 24 hour range for instance.

I think a safe bet right now given what we just say is 1M in 26-28 hours

>>20881464
Kek, that just shows how in the red Cover really is. They can't even afford one of the most popular advertising spaces in Japan

>>20881464
>her
?

lmao meds

https://youtu.be/oY07qpNxkG0
Not holiday waiting room. Its over…

>>20881550
yeah that's fair. I'd bet on 30 hrs though

>>20881464
I was wondering why it had breasts. So strike off the statue for Kuzuha, but he did get a set of very large clothes made for him so that's nice

>>20881550
Actually, I’ll change it and say 30 hours is a safe bet since that gives a lot more breathing room to reach. 26-28 hours puts too much faith in people to listen.

Either way, it’s gonna be the 3rd fastest to 1M no matter

>>20878945
Is that...

I was checking out one of the newly debuted girl Muyu playing the newest chilla's kusoge horror that Mio and Pekora are gonna play later. Mostly curious how she's doing since her model looks cute.

She has the least subscribers amount among her gen, but seem to be doing somewhat fine currently with debut + horror buff hovering around 3.8k. She can carry herself well, not much dead air on stream. I feel like her voice and the model doesn't really match which may be holding her back.

On the game itself: the early game is literally a barista simulator, you have to do a lot of menial task like memorizing order, blending ice, adding topping, sticking the order tags etc. in the correct order. It filtered the girl hard for the first 30 minutes or so, even debating on giving up. She had to go back and forth between watching a VHS tutorial on a shitty small CRT tv in game and reading recipes on the whiteboard. Those parts are the real horror, this game may bring worse numbers than previous chillas.

Niji's new debuts, second streams. Amagase Muyu is currently doing her third stream.

Pmaru is graduating/quitting YT
https://youtu.be/Y42yCohdrSc

>>20881909
QRD on the reasoning?

>>20881777
fair, also unrelated question, why do you think Kronii's original hasn't got 1m yet but Mumei and Bae has? Despite Kronii being the highest subbed council, I'd think she'd be more successful, was the song not catchy enough?

>>20881909
what the fuck?!

is 100K likes get significant?

>>20881909
Oh shit. The continued fading of the OGs.

>>20881816
The real terror of the game is the menial tasks of the modern world. Fitting.

>>20881909

>>20881909
Its a shit post EOPs. She isn't retiring.

>>20881909
It's a prank

>>20881955
Someone asks this almost every day. The answers are probably
1. The release was botched and the song was available on Spotify and stuff for quite a while before the MV was released, so all her fans heard it a bunch before it "officially" released
2. It's a slow, long song so it's not conducive to looping

>>20881945
Pregnancy with Ai's husband?

>>20881909
Remember folks, if you can't speak the language, don't assume what some random person tells you on an anonymous imageboard is true.

>>20881763
It's a parable for how niji's fanbase is full of trannies

>>20881955
I don’t know exactly why it happened this way, people said Daydream had gotten delayed and this is what inevitably caused the problem, but youtube topic leaked the full song out before the song ever even came out and that not only took a chunk of views away but ultimately killed the hype. The song had already been out there for a good 1-3 weeks and MP3s posted in places here on /vt/ so that’s the reason it lost most of its traction.

If you want other reasons it’s mainly because Kronii has never really advertised it or pushed it in any regard. A New Start was a big thing for Mumei since she’d tease it in karaokes and had a nice buildup for its release

>>20881909
oh my god she's joining Hololive

>>20881623
Nana is a girl anon

>>20882043
Yeah, and the biggest "victims" are Mori's Live Streamer and Bully.
Guh does not even have a MV.

>>20882012
>>20882022
>>20882030
GOT'EM!

>>20882113
>>20882043
ah that sucks that the release was such a mess. Tbh I think the song is pretty good, although it isn't the high energy song that a lot of other Hololive members release. Kronii's voice is more suited for slow songs anyway

>>20881964
6 digit anything is significant, yes

>>20881909
Here we can see the people who actually watched the video and those who don't. God damn why are you fags so easy to bait?

>>20881964
In a gloating way? Probably not, but is it significant as far as statistics go, absolutely.
https://youtu.be/1KUZHKI-BDk
https://youtu.be/HSC3BheJuhU
It’s already blown past Mori’s 3DMV and Suisei’s last decent cover that came out a month ago. Only real comparisons to make right now since they’re the big guns of Holo.

Another way to look at it is that a solo MV of a song that came out nearly a year ago just got 100k likes in <10 hours

>>20879328
The Towa group song won't do great numbers, its a 13 year old, not very popular song that is over 6 minutes long. Sasaki from niji put out a cover of it with niji gamers back in november 2018, it has 996k views.

In contrast to Gamma, Fuma has an okayish rig but still looks like a stick moving forward
https://twitter.com/yatogamifuma/status/1506556901869654023?t=fNIrn9dmzbIhqfkrRCqxNA&s=19

>>20882151
Just wondering why they used a giant female mannequin for Kuzuha

>>20882291
now I'm interested though, is there a leaderboard for likes on Hololive songs

>>20882291
I'm learning what stats matter. I don't numberfag that much see... I don't even understand why there's always some anon that say "kys" at the rankingspost.
Makes me even more averse to reading the wall of text really

>>20882260
You're asking lazy People (many who don't even speak the language that the video is in) to check it. This place, that doesn't even watch streams in a language they understand.
Now read that again, and ruminate on what you posted.

Nagi and Reze, NijiKR's sadist and NijiID's masochist are having a collab.
https://youtu.be/iYYjq_X2YDk
It's all in Japanese.
Joking aside 700 viewers for them is pretty good.
The KR and IDs are choosing either JP or EN as their main/2nd stream language and most are inclining right now.
Nagi was already pretty well known among JPs and with the recent Snow Halation cover they were both on, she should integrate pretty well in the JP sphere.

>>20881909

>>20882218
I personally like it too. It suits Kronii well and even if it slowed down, I’d take it as a good sign given how rough it is for a lot of Holos to make any ground for originals. Like just to put it into perspective, Towa had a 3D Live that people estimate to have had 70-80k people watching got to promote this right after:
https://youtu.be/Zc05le75CfI
And is one of the most popular holoJP singers, and it’s probably gonna be about 2.1M in what’s soon to be 3 months. That’s a lot of buffs layered on for solid results, so you can imagine other holos with not nearly as much standing and what they ultimately achieve.

Smile&Go….

>>20882462
I'm tired of saying this but fucking Smile & Go is a short version MV. Short versions are numbers poison and never do well with Ahoy being basically the only exception. If Smile & Go was the full song its numbers would be a lot better.

>>20882462
yeah I guess 1m is still a difficult milestone for anyone who isn't Gura,Mori or Suisei.

>>20882454
>>20882462
Funny how you both thought about Flare at the same time, for different topics.

>>20882379
It’s often said that ENs typically receive a lot more likes as a whole than JPs due to culture, and that’s sort of true. Even if Holo’s themselves don’t do it, it’s been ingrained in a lot of Youtube watchers heads to give likes, it’s something every single creator on youtube says really. “Like, comment and subscribe!” So it’s usually a tough metric to numberfag since ENs will blow everyone out of the water in that regard.

But you can always use it as a decent measure for how much activity a stream or MV is getting, especially when compared to other ENs too. You see it all the time with Gura vods. Anytime her stream ends with 25k+ likes, the vod turns out spectacular. <20k? Slow vod by Gura standards. You’ll never be able to extrapolate how many people are turning in by likes but it’s at least something to monitor to see if any trends can be picked up from it

NijiEN had been collabing with a lot of indies lately especially the upcoming pummel party Collab with 2 unknown indies. Do they do this because they felt the grind of indies before becoming a corpo and wanting to give back a little in comparison to Hololive being a one hit wonder straight up after debut?

Man Target For Love was a major debuff if the fucking reflect MV mogged it this hard day 1. Is Gura about to unironically earn another spot in the top 19 fastastest songs to 1 million with just a fucking MV of the same song?

https://youtu.be/lv7UI1livw4

Is this the final INNK song?

>>20881694
20k while singing

her l2d is cute

>>20882652
I wonder why Baelz, Kronii and IRyS doesn't do a favour to indies despite knowing the grind from their PL.

>>20882632
I love Flare. No matter the memes she’s one of my favorite JPs and I’m always wishing her the best. I truly wish she wasn’t seen as just a runt of gen 3 since she’s a lot more than that, at least to me

deadbeats... not like this...

>>20882693
teeth looks weird imo, but so far so good i guess

I think the reflect MV views are coming from japs who discovered it during holofes. There's an unusually high amount of JP comments if you sort by new.

>>20882671
no hype for that. gura's originals have way more hype

>>20882723
But....Bae and Kronii have, just in a more subtle way. She shilled Miori alongside Mori, and Kronii had one of her indie connections do fanart very early to get on the hypetrain for Council.

>>20882686
One more aside from this. The final songs from the niggafrog

>>20882693
Who?

>>20882624
Most of EN can hit it with ease, it's just the JP midgets struggling

>Eop pandering

>>20882768
Fauna also tend to shill artists from her PL. Would probably shill Shondo too if she weren't such a ticking timebomb.

>>20882624
Gura has a hard time getting 1mil anon-chama

>>20882804
yeah true, still takes most of them more than a week to hit it.

Can your oshi compete with Zelenskyy-kun?

Ruri-nee announcing a TV anime with AZKi in it

>>20882671
Before I say why Target for Love got kind of fucked, I’m gonna drop these here:
https://youtu.be/wVu1IeLXzyY
https://youtu.be/8Q4rflTedwQ
Blue Archive uploaded their own versions on their channel so that took a lot of views from Gura’s vod. Now, for why the song stunted, I remember exactly what happened here.

Gura was supposed to stream the day prior to its release, I believe it was a karaoke or at least a stream of some nature. I’m 100% positive that Gura was intending to promote this cover and put a frame up for it, but she had to cancel the stream that day. Gura being Gura, she likely forgot and what ended up happening was a random premiere being thrown up like 30 minutes before release when both Irys and Ame just released songs of their own too. It just got mega fucked because I’m sure it was on a deadline with BA needing to promote it themselves and shit

>>20882827
compared to popular youtubers, yeah.
compared to every other vtuber, no

>>20882827
what song? the MV of an old song which just uploaded 10 hours ago?

>>20882861
>anime
Like in a fully fledged anime?

>>20882859
Fucking invasion buffs...

>>20881909
i look at the channel of the guest and i'm surprised no one has tried to cancel her for having a swastika as a part of her motif
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKQwANAMCadOr9ZRWbAbicQ

>>20882454
It hurts...

>>20882861
Sick, my girl MaiR is in it.

today is NCP's 2nd anniversary

>>20882652
rrat: they're trying to sap away cover applicants.

>>20882870
Wasn't her parents give her a surprise visit that day?

Claire is having her 3D debut Live from New York this weekend
https://youtu.be/D_X9n5GjVTc

>>20882870
It was supposed to be a Christmas Karaoke yea. Her family pulled the "suprise visit for Christmas" card on her, and she got sick after their visit too.

>>20882953
Wouldn't surprise me, the PL hires must be dried up by now?

>>20881087
Why is this fag spoiling his reveal ahead of the debut?

>>20882958
Yeah, her parents surprised her with a visit.

>>20882768
>Kronii had one of her indie connections do fanart very early to get on the hypetrain
It technically is a connection to her indie days, but it's not like Kätchen was given a golden branch here, she's been commercially successful for quite some time.

>>20882968
Her family time somehow always end up with her being sick, whether during the visit or after the visit.

>>20882723
>>20882652
Cause fuck them indies!

>>20882990
This is pretty common.

>>20881464
They recycle statues now? Is Anykara that poor?

>>20882861
>>20882906
>Like in a fully fledged anime?
No idea. Maybe someone with better jp can go back and listen to it. The stream is over now.

Also, the anime is titled "Suisei no Froilan"(or something similar) and 31/3 lines up with Suisei's live and announcement. Can it also be connected to her?

>>20881087
Even neo porte is better than niji vta streamers

>>20882859
Nah, no one can compete with /pol/

>>20882462
Smile & Go's biggest debuff is that it's kinda seen as an inferior version of Say! Fanfare.
They both have very similar theming and sampling.

>>20882815
Shadow is a backstabber. Let's not sugarcoat this.

>>20882953
Cover can just hire non-vtubers.

>>20882815
>>20882768
Is their any indie connection from Gura's PL? Her words about "just google search an anime waifu and start grinding from being a png and networking" is dead serious beside with a playful tone.

>>20883079
Looking for diamond in the rough like Subaru is hard anon

>>20882861
>Tomokazu Sugita
>Kikuko Inoue
>Rie Takahashi
Goddamn

>>20882988
the Niji manager that explained why VTA was necessary gets shat on by JOP to this day for the take.

>>20883078
It sounds like they have made up though, i for one have saved her outbursts for the day she decides to fuck it up again.

>>20882919
that's only a yab if you're in western because swastika's original meaning is divinity and spirituality so there's no reason to flame it unless you're a retarded burgerwoke

>>20882652
EN indies tend to be yab-machines, unlike JP ones (who are being promoted by big time holos occasionally).
Hopefully NijiEN has people vetting for who they're collabing with so that they don't themselves in the midst of drama 3 weeks later.

>>20883036
Probably not as much as I'd like it to be

Hizuki Yui debut from neo-porte 30k

>>20882807
save your worry, the one tomorrow will be worse on that department

>>20883101
If they have some skills, you can turn anyone into a gem.

>>20883079
I think this is the key, EN member's PL has other content that outshine for just being a vtuber.

>>20883127
>Hopefully NijiEN has people vetting for who they're collabing with so that they don't themselves in the midst of drama
VShojo...

>>20883036
Suisei anime OP/ED finally?

>>20883115
People say this every time FallenShadow's little outburst is brought up with no real evidence. You have no idea if Fauna has actually "made up" with Fallen, you don't even know if they've communicated at all, unless you can provide timestamps. Fallen stopping her attempt at revenge and trying to make nice isn't "making up", making up takes two.

>>20883036
Wait maybe she's talking about Sousou no Frieren? Is it getting an anime?
Maybe Azki has a minor VA role then

>>20883036
Sousou no Frieren ?

Still inclining

>>20883098
Anon, consider that that's literally what she did (her pre-Holo model is a straight up ripoff from an anime) she was absolutely talking about herself. As for anyone from her Indie days, the one (that I'm aware of) that she had the closest connection to is a goddamn landmine so she probably cut off contact with her (Muni).

>>20882919
it's honestly a good way to gatekeep retarded westoids

>>20882919
What >>20883124 said and
>anon...
sit down and let me tell you which side Japan was in WWII.

>>20883115
That's a rrat, anon. Fauna made no communication whatsoever with Shadow.

>>20883213
>>20883212
https://www.bsfuji.tv/cometfreyline/pub/index.html
no they're unrelated

>>20883212
>>20883213
https://twitter.com/Ume_bsfuji/status/1506571461301096449
Nah

>>20882725
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADBEATS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
THE CHUMCHADS ARE LAUGHING AT US

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1506577788526272513

>>20883167
That's the best way to try and get Myth 2.

>>20883291
>>20883279
>freyline
It's supposed to Fräulein I think... I thought nips had better German reps than the rest of the world..

>>20882725
OH NO NO NO

>>20883233
Weird that she kept her shit/meme posting PL channel, but her LPS PL channel's content is all deleted, I even saw one of her LPS collab partner congrats about her current success.

>>20883223
Lmao, looks like Holofes + Reflect offset her being away from her channel for a good couple days for Holofes prep. Right back to where she left off once the tally updates. She’s back to near 80k subs/month with her current trends (80k every 32 days)

>>20883291
>>20883279
>OP/ED not announced
looks like there's really a chance for suisei

>>20883336
Yeah that sounds a lot better

>>20883313
By the GTL wording, maybe it's a cameo?

>>20883279
>>20883291
>Isekai
>Idol
I already see anything now...

>>20883323
I agree with this, I think you have a better chance if you're a content creator that isn't just a vtuber. Cover can train anyone to be a vtuber over the course of their pre-debut summer, but you can't just train someone to be a genius memer, or a rapper, or an idol, or a professional artist, etc.
If I were on Cover's hiring committee, resumes with just a year or two of vtubing and no other creative talents get low ranking in the pile

>>20883370
It's a 10 minute episode anime, don't expect anything too much from it

>>20883313
https://twitter.com/Ume_bsfuji/status/1506571461301096449

Ruri nee is doing CV too.

I can't tell if the new girl's teeth are more hot or creepy

>>20883396
Like Yugo and Sonny?

>>20883442
It's super hot

>>20883147
33k get!

>>20879594
>>20879594
>Link Your Wish
>considered as a failure
Jesas this seething 2views has a really high standard kek

>>20883450
I'm sorry, I have no idea who you're referring to. But those sound like male names, I'm talking about mainline HoloEN. I wouldn't know what Cover would look for in StarsEN but the same principals probably apply

>>20883450
They needed better support.

>>20883450
I thought sonny was the guy faked his death to be feature on tf2

>>20881909
Yes no more whore acting as an idol!
I'll miss you Luna இдஇ

>>20877797
>we

>Stream Link still displays as waiting room
>Under 4k on desktop
>About to reach 20k on mobile

Is Mio's stream bugged?

>>20883534
Care to provide a reason to not have IDs?

How many original songs you need to convert your channel to a music one? You think Gura will do it?

my mio stream sometimes glitches the ccv counter, from the 19k to 5k then back to 19k really fast. Tracking sites dont seem to be catching this. Anyone else having this?

>>20883573
3

>>20883555
I think the publicly displayed CCV is bugged yes, but it looks like the API queries are giving back the correct numbers since vstats, vrabi and Holostats all show her being at around the same numbers.

>>20883580
Same also 20k get

>>20883555
>>20883580
oh its not just me, doesnt it fix itself real fast after a few seconds for you?

>>20883591
No, I misremembered, it's 2

>>20883555
>>20883580
Looks like a YouTube public display bug. It affects both Mobile and Desktop, but only affects the public facing number.

every new week theres a new bug on youtube huh

>>20883703
what a coincidence that it only becomes an issue once people notice it in jp's

>>20883279
>>20883291
>idol isekai anime
>Ruri, Mair, Azki
>OP and ED not yet announced
>"Suisei" in the title
>aired 2 hours after Suisei's 4th live
Is this going to be her announcement?

>>20883703
The perverse incentive structure at YouTube/Google results in 'updates' to things being the best way to get promotions. No one gets ahead just doing optimizations and maintenance.

>>20883731
was it happening with ens before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-tijgTr_Q

Ah fuck.
Did the EN management autism about "gen"s infect the JP too?

>>20883599
>>20883609
>>20883625
Public display CCV is bugged. Looks like Pekora and Miko's waiting rooms are also affected.

>>20883798
What perceived problem are they trying to solve my making these distinctions, I wonder

>>20883798
I have come to realize that named gens are probably better going forward instead of "Gen 9" to give them something to stand out apart from a number, but either the talents are retarded or the translators are doing something wrong because it always sounds like the next gen isn't part of respective branch whenever this gets brought up.

>>20883798
holo girls gens havent technically been called numbers ever since gamers either (gamers, fantasy, force, nepolabo)

>>20883798
Maybe they have a specific project in mind for the new boys beyond just being streamers.

>>20883895
Who the fuck calls sankisei Fantasy?

>>20883895
Nepolabo used to be called Holofive

>>20883907
Lead singer, guitarist, drummer, bassist...

>>20883734
Since this increase chance for AZKi instead of Mori to be on Suisei 3D live, I want this to true.

>>20883934
No one wants to be the bassist...

>>20883887
Brand image?
Maybe "holostars" is brand poison, so they're putting up "uproar" as a "shiny new thing" for the audience while still being able to collab with holostars and still being their juniors.
It's a weird way to do it, but this could TECHNICALLY get some new audience who would give a shot to "new thing" but would never give a chance to "holostars" brand.
I just don't know if that's the type of audience they should be going for...

Peko 4k waiting its over holobros… neoporte gold!

>>20883952
hell will freeze over before sui allows the wigger on her stage. Don't screencap this.

>>20884023
It's Ange's day anon. New custome

>>20883124
reminded me when wetoids tried to scold Tomoshika for using manjis when she was reacting to the new VOMS debuts.

>>20884023
I wonder what she will even peak at. Mio’s got 22k right now and Miko’s starting up MC too. Miko’s actually got an even bigger waiting room right now..
Lookin like one of those days where everyone shares a 20k+

>>20883928
even in japanese, its like calling them HoloCinco for us

>>20883919
https://youtu.be/Vxky2bBvmZo?t=29

>>20884057
I have zero faith in Nijifemale outfit reveals.

>>20883160
Sana.

>>20884129
Ange is one of the sexiest female niji so she might get it this time

>>20883233
Who's Muni?

>>20884127
wow lyrics, nice job mate

https://youtu.be/w_J6aCuSM4E?t=228

>>20884156
biggest hiring misstep by cover to date. Worse than Chris.

yup, the ccv display bug is getting worse now

I doubt it'll happen but my god would I love to hornypost an Ange gold

>>20884129
This is Ange we're talking about
A top tier Niji female

>>20884264

I can't watch the stream anon. What happened with youtube today? The videos not starting and stuck at waiting room

>>20884230
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. She's a wasted slot right now but even that is somewhat salvageable if she can ever start consistently streaming. She has a savior angle at this point, people like to support an underdog and Sana is an epic underdog

>>20884276
Ange gold onegai

>>20884309
Same on Pekora and Miko's streams.

>>20884309
I'm in France and today has been fine for me, compared to the other days it didn't lag at all. The counter on Pekora's livestream doesn't seem to be bugged either.

>>20883798
It's a better branding overall. Just look at Myth, Council, and HoloX. They are distinct enough for people to differentiate from the previous ones. Also it serve as a unit name

satanas bug

>>20884320
>Sana is an epic underdog
Not really, not anymore, she was, but she isn't anymore. People like to support underdog as long as they actually try and Sana disinterest is plain as the day. Someone like Kiara can get saviorfag because she actually work her ass off, even if she also stack herself with debuff. Sana is just lazing around.

>>20883071
/vt/ did couple of times

>>20884168
Muni is...I mean was, a friend and someone who ended up as the mod for S*'s discord, before she nuked it prior to the joining Hololive. She's the one that pops up in the old twitter like screencap that pops up to 'prove' that Gura hates lolicons.
Munibug is their channel on Twitch.

>>20884352
Need to wait for 5 minutes and I missed pekorap. Youtube...

>>20884353
It's only a better branding if you're interesting and talented enough to pull it off, look at how no one gives a shit about HoloFive or Nepolabo or whatever they're calling themselves these days.

NEO PORTE GOLD
>NEO PORTE GOLD
NEO PORTE GOLD
>NEO PORTE GOLD

>>20884354
It's likely regional then. How odd

>>20884370
I might have agreed before it came out her latest stint of absence was due to a broken back, and Council showed a lot of on-air concern about it. That I think earned her back some savior points. She has to eventually start streaming though or it'll wear off

pekora's counter went from 13k to 3k to 13k again

>>20884309
refresh a couple times and it starts
they keep bring new bugs everyday

>>20884412
(You)

>>20884309
Do you use DVR script?

>>20884412

Reflect MV stuck at 479k views, not sure if it's the "bug" you guys mentioned with Miko and Pekora's stream or just YT buffering the view count.

>>20884432
33k is in slippage territory

>>20884370
Fuck off, bro. Sana has a bad back. Stop spouting rrats.

>>20884466
NTA but no issues with v1.3 and Chrome

>>20884479
It was somewhat stuck too for me. It's picking back up quite rapidly now, maybe catching up...

>>20884353
Same with Niji. In fact, weirdly enough, Niji's spam strategy makes it much more likely people will use the unit names rather than the "wave number" as people are likely to forget which wave is which.

It's over nousagi, Miko getting more views than Pekora now

>>20884571
Pekora is getting sapped by Mio playing the same game an hour before her.

Youtube shit the bed today ic.

>stream playing
>1.2k waiting
Wheres the views YT!?

>>20882861
https://twitter.com/Ume_bsfuji/status/1506571461301096449

>>20884571
Those are some weirdly low numbers for Minecraft and Chills kusoge

>>20884569
The name is hard to remember though. I still don't remember what is the correct name for Elytra, Noctis, and Ridonkulous.

>>20884544
it slows until around 10:50 I think... then the increments has started to grow bigger again. EU break time maybe?

Seems holo taking it easy today, anything on ninji side that could beat noparty debut?

>>20884603
was watching yui for like 20 minutes and this doesn't occur on her stream at all

>>20884606
they only start for 10 minutes give it time dude
miko about to reach the usual 20k now

Migo 20k get despite being stuck on the waiting room

>>20884642
Ange new costume

>>20884642
Ange new outfit reveal maybe?

Still in waiting room?

>>20884639
Her original Reflect also stucked at 460k for a while without moving an inch.

>>20882723
IRyS to my knowledge does a Gura approach and just doesn't interact much with anyone outside Hololive. Even back during her utaite days I don't think IRyS really talked to other utaites much and I followed that community back in Highschool.

youtube had just went back to full waiting room for a while now lmao

>>20884691
>>20884676
YT shitting the bed right now. SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>20884691
Try refreshing it, works for me to watch the stream.

welp, show's over tonight. just give the gold to Hal's group. Susan is acting up again.

>>20884718
>>20884709
>>20884691
I have none of these bugs you have mentioned, how weird. The stream has been absolutely fine for me since the start.

Home….

>>20884490
>>20884439
A broken back is serious buisness, and it's a good enough reason to not stream, but the radio silence for over a month, outside of popping into birthday ? It's not really justifiable.

>>20884684
25k-28k max

>>20884740
It's been fucking up in some places in the world as far as I can tell. I don't think it's affecting every country but some people are getting Susan'd.

>Neopotato male debut already peaked, now declining
fang girl deserves gold because she's kyut, but I guess ange is essentially a man so she'll take it for niji today

Vrabi still doesn't have Neo Porte?

>>20884796
Fucked up for me in the US.

>>20884866
Just started for me in the US

Ange's previous new outfit stream

>>20884930
novelty gone she owns so many costumes
https://twitter.com/Ange_Katrina_/status/1168889634849472513
https://twitter.com/ange_katrina_/status/1204803536602554369
https://twitter.com/ange_katrina_/status/1347191429748072449
https://twitter.com/Ange_Katrina_/status/1374022334978297861
https://twitter.com/Ange_Katrina_/status/1414216057829564420

>>20884745
This

The excuse of not wanting to worry her fans with bad news doesn't fly, since the absence of any news is just as bad.

If she had just tweeted or otherwise publicly notified anything, even something vague like "health issues", then she'd get a lot more leeway.

Steams are displaying properly now. Anyone else?

>>20884986
Kinda

500k in <12 hours

I straight up cannot watch any streams on my phone right now.
YouTube dun fucked up pretty hard.

>>20885076

>>20885043
Weird, it doesn't effect vstats, vrabi or holostats. It really just a "display" bug unlike the ccvid.

>>20884986
Seems like a complete coin flip. I open six Holo streams and 4/2 worked, the other 2 waiting rooms. Shut them all and reopened and 3/3, and they were different streams than the first time. I'd say just keep refreshing or reopening until it works. This will fuck up numbers though and many people won't bother and will just leave.

How does YT expect to compete with Twitch when their streaming side is such an ass.

>>20884986
Intermittent issues, seems to be unreliable for me. SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Top 3 currently

>>20885093
Update the app?

>>20885076
Why is it still stuck at 480k on my end?

>>20885114
Paying Ludwig a lot of money I guess?

>>20883887
The holostar brand is synonym of 2view

>>20884866
it's crashing people back to waiting room. People are gonna leave so it affects the CCV in the end

>>20885100
i love this dude

>>20885076
11 hrs 32 min

>>20885100
This guy.

Winning son 3k!!

>>20885168
Same

>>20885141
Already did, alongside restarting my device for good measure.
YouTube, this is pretty bad.

>>20885291
It ain't you, it's completely on YT's side. SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>20884986
They sometimes eventually work. Seems more likely to work in watch page rather than as embedded (holotools/holodex)

>>20885271
what's he doing?

>>20885114
They are just too lazy to fix their streaming side. No platform can compete with them in video influence, so they don't need to change.

>>20884970
1, 2, 5 are pure sex

>>20885336
apesex with sumire

>>20885336
Vsaikyo team 1st collab

>>20884743
ACCELERATE

>>20885114
They don't want to beat Twitch. If they somehow beat Twitch, they'll get hit by an antitrust lawsuit.

I hate jewtube

Pecola 24k

I hope the YT error keep happening till Holostar debut

Update your app retards

All my YouTube CCV displays are completely frozen for a while now

To be honest, Holostars Uproar seems a lot promising. They are growing at a faster pace older gens.

Keeping expectation low is fine, but Cover is doing this gen a lot more right than wrong.

>>20885471
Using a browser, nothing to update. Are you guys actually watching streams on your phone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Cv-EpeqmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Cv-EpeqmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Cv-EpeqmM

Haachama, what?

>>20885571
I'm having problems at browser too

Hololive uproar full gayness pandering on twitter.....
Hoping they are bro streamers.

That's new, they have shadows

It seems like some of YouTube servers are stuck in the past or something. If I refresh some streams that recently ended they show up as live again but just buffer forever.

>>20885598
No way. Cover doesn't seem to believe in bro streamers. Their mindset is male = panders to female and vice versa.

>>20885271
>>20885336
>>20885379
>>20885387
kek, who would say Holostars path to incline would be through
>VSPO
I wonder if this will strengthen the bonds between both companies

Unison 500K 7 hrs 39 min, but it had 60K+ ccv , basically Vampire but an original.

>>20885076
Really weak showing by Gura. If this is the best Holo can offer, then Hololive truly is reclining

Enna managed to get 1 mil views today but Gura can't? I wouldn't be surprised if Yagoo decides to can the whole EN branch if this continues

https://youtu.be/PMenI11Qcqc

Wait, is this considered a "branch" of vtubers?

>>20885734
no

>>20885734
No, only vtweeters themselves think they are vtubers

>>20885681
>Cover doesn't seem to believe in bro streamers
I don't think it's Cover in itself but fucking asians and their women.
When was the last time you guys saw asian women listing for manly men (or even regular men) in asian mainstream media and cuilture?
Nowadays, be it China, Japan or Korea, it's always the most androgynous and effeminate skinny fags you can imagine, even in host clubs.

Cover knows where money is, and it most definitely is not on bros sending money to other bros but thirsty fujos sending their life savings.