/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

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>>20724306
I FUCKING LOVE WAR
I WANT TO KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY AND RESOURCES

You shouldn't eat bread that barks. That bread has a speaker inside of it that will kill you if eaten. Also /nasa/ will look into canning dried vegetables. Though dried vegetables will have less nutrition than fresh and even freeze-dried veggies. Dehydrated veggies might be a fun snack food.

>>20724484
from what I have read, proces of canning food is popular in /who/ but I think its just normal pasterized food

>>20724647
Since we have gas transfer tech in food processing we use nitrogen gas to replace oxygen in the packaging process to prevent the food from oxidizing/ripening/going stale. Also with bags they have enough pressure to keep vegetable crisps from rattling about during transport. Not sure if we can replicate that with cans.

>>20723813
Alright here goes:

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
>Principles
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Proposals to be voted on
https://rentry.org/fiahh
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

I actually spent more than 0.3 seconds editing the archive links so now they are properly readable unlike the catastrophe the first one was.
Read through them, there are some changes that need to be made and discussed.
Any questions, corrections and suggestions welcome, I'll read through them when I wake up. Also someone please suggest a better name than "Principles" cause brain no work.
We also need to figure out within the week who the next rep responsible for this will be, as well as a way to have a safe-ish editable archive or a way to share edit codes safely

>>20725229
Nice work sakuran, bless your effortposting.
I already said it last thread, but I think requiring of the current thread anon that he gets a gmail to interface with some kind of online storage is an acceptable ask.

>>20725229
Thanks for your work!

>>20725082
Do you need doe?
Food in cans and glass containers that undergoes heat proccesing can last years

>>20726587
Nitrogen is used to keep dry foods tasting fresh. Most canned foods are stored in a brine or syrup and heat treated via pressure cooker. I need sleep. I didn't know much about food preservation until I started writing for /nasa/.

>>20726944
Good night anon
You can do yours food preservation reps tommorow

>>20725229
>Also someone please suggest a better name than "Principles"
How about "Bylaws"?
>a way to have a safe-ish editable archive or a way to share edit codes safely
Do we need this? Even with different reps in charge of holding the vote, there could still be a singular person in charge of archiving. So the current head rep would create a new "Proposals" and "Results" rentry each week and the archiver would update the "Principles" and "Archive" links. Transferring the ownership of the rentry's would require external communication and proof of identity or leaving it public and trusting no one would mess with things. Either option seems too difficult to maintain.

>>20727887
I imagine the concern is that if archiveanon got killed by Russia or otherwise disappeared, that would be a single point of failure to fuck us over.

>>20728174
Well copying the contents of a rentry and pasting it in a different one is easy enough. The only problem would be if he deleted everything and stormed off, but in that scenario giving more people access only makes it more likely that could happen with no additional way to stop it.

>>20728273
Having backups on something that isn't deleted as easily would probs be useful.

>>20728307
This is another reason why google doc might be the best option with its auto backup

>>20728741
google doc also makes it easy to just download everything. We could have it setup so that the drive is publicly accessible, but not editable, so that basically every anon can DL a copy of the whole archive even if they're not an editor.
Also, new gmail addresses do not require proof of identity, at least they didn't last time I created an address. Did that change?

>>20728835
It requires a phone number. But by proof of identity I meant that the reps would need to be verified before being given editing access.

>>20728904
Oh, that's a bother. Hmm well I guess we'll have to see what the archiver wants to do about transfer when we get to that.

>>20707994
>madagascar
This might be the biggest issue with your resource assessment, as far as I understand from the map your climate is Mediterranean, so much closer to Italy, Greece southern France and North Africa than Madagascar
So I guess the good news is that fits canonically with your oshis soft spot for Wine

>>20730371
Right, that's how it used to be, but the 15 degree shift to save the poles from distortion pushed everything a bit closer to the equator, so /morig/ is basically at Madagascar latitudes now, see pic related. The climate map is a smidge outdated now.

>>20730371
>Mori loves wine
>Climate is mediterranean, plenty of grapes and olvies
>Mori loves lemurs
>Country in the shape of Madagascar
Deadbeats...

>>20730553
Hmm, I should write a lore entry about some kind of lemuesque creature...

>>20730538
Ah, I see
So I guess that is another map that needs to be updated

>>20731251
Yeah, meatanon threw himself at a redraw >>20665337, so probably that's something that would happen on this version.

off-topic but thank you rosebud rep. you made me check out your oshi and now im seriously considering card autism. also her theme song is stupidly catchy.

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Here's a pantheon I made

Notes:
It's the basic structure of the pantheon and it's common interpretation by the Republic, it's basically suposed to represent a bunch of combined legends, myths, stories, and the like that have been built up from many peoples across the lands.
Mumei is commonly represented as a Homer/Herodotus type character that travels the earth and records things, this is why she pops out in many stories and myths. She then became the main figure in the religion of the people.
Ame is meant to be a hero type character with multiple exploits and things like that, still a human thought. I'll change it if /awat/ does not like it.
Ina has a different type of divinity than the others (because lovecraft), but since /wah/ hasn't made any lore, I won't touch her for now.
The soulpath is the name for the underworld, where the soul of living beings is taken for ???, I'm not smart enough to come up with an afterlife system, maybe they go back to the land or something. I'm open for suggestions here.

The other splits are fully welcome to reference, use, and modify the pantheon for their own means, I'd make a prettier version, but I really need to go to sleep
This is only an attempt at creating a sensible pantheon, I might just scrap it completely if I don't feel it's good enough.

Anchoring
>>20723761

>>20733657
>Amelia
>Hero and usurper of time
So, it's like how some people considered Alexander the Great a deity?

>>20733834
Yeah, something like that, the idea is that she was so succesful she was worshipped as a result, as a fun fact, A few days ago /who/ discussed which myth fanbase we had more overlap with, it's probably teamates and deadbeats, all assumptions thought.

>>20733657
Pretty cool.

>>20707994
I checked the rentry and the map, and refined my initial climate assessment a bit, since the height of the mountains are taller than I expected.
For the flatland to the south, the initial thoughts are still more or less correct, with the climate generally changing from tropical monsoon (Am) and tropical savanna (Aw) to subtropical monsoon (Cwa). The addition of the mountains change a few things, though.
First, the mountain ridge to the norther coast should form a minor rain shadow effect (brown dotted line), although the effect will be more significant in the west, where the mountains seem taller. (the red numbers are my guess on their height, please correct me if I'm wrong). As such, western part of Cwa might see a more drastic difference in seasonal rainfall level.
Secondly, the northern shore will fall under said minor rain shadow, which makes the seasonal rainfall difference less significant, as the wet south wind is blocked and drops a lot of its water to the southern plains. As such, it might be considered humid subtropical (Cfa) instead. In the western tip, the loss of water in the wind might be significant enough that the winter north wind might actually be wetter, which would put it in the hot summer Mediterranean climate (Csa), although it might be too small to be a distinct climate zone.
Third, the height of Mt. Mori (which I assume is similar, if not a bit taller than Mt. Fuji) means it will have its own distinct climate zones by sheer height alone, kind of like Mount Kilimanjaro. Assuming a Mt. Fuji aesthetics (snow at the top), the following climate zones will form a series of (mostly) concentric circles as you go up from the foot of the mountain:
- Tropical monsoon/savannah (Am/Aw)
- Subtropical highland (Cwb/Cwc)
- Tundra (ET)
Be note that depending on how steep the slope is and other local topographic features, not all climate zones might be big enough to be distinct. Between subtropical highland and tundra will be the tree line, where the forest gives way to shrubs and grass. Be noted that by definition, tundra is not covered in ice all year, so the snow cap will disappear during summer season (just like Mt. Fuji). If you want it to have a permanent ice cap (EF), the height will likely have to reach 5000m+.

Does anyone have the updated equirectangular map on hand?

>>20737305
Just noticed your guys mori-mountain-retcon requires some reshuffeling of the tectonics to explain those mountains so I eyeballed it a bit and changed the regional map.
I am not the original mapanon who made the geography map so my theory might have some issues.
If picrel is realistic your island should brace for some nasty earthquakes
In general, does this new geography change your resource assessment from last thread?

>>20737305
>>20738727
Forgot to attach file

>>20738727
Technically the area could have multiple "mountains" in the form of volcanoes without the tectonics having to be changed see: iceland
There being a tectonic boundary there would change the resources found.
Also there being a tectonic boundary would take away the possibility of morig being a supervolcano if thats whtat the deadbeats like. A hotspot is still possible again, see: iceland but a supervolcanoes dont really form at the tectonic boundaries afaik

Another way to explain the mountains could be that they are old ones, kind of like Urals or the Norwegian mountains, formed by some ancient tectonic plate collision in the area, and the mountaisn jsut never had the time to be eroded away. This is how i think the mountain chain in the middle of the major holo plate formed . This would require morig having had existed prior to it becoming an LIP however, so the island would become somewhat similar to /infinity/ in geologic structure.

>>20738799
With your arrows there, and the movements of the plated being what they are, the boundary where the mountaisn form should be a divegrent one.
Try to include morig on the sea plate, and keep the motions of the plates as they are and you should be getting what you want.

>>20733657
>Kronii and Mumei
You forget the part where Kronii has killed Mumei multiple times.

>>20738727
I forgot Mt. Mori's supernatural effect while writing that post, so the climate overview in it isn't very accurate, please disregard it

>>20738727
As for the effect of the geography change, the main difference (apart from more frequent earthquakes) is that /morig/ might get more copper and gold, although they already have enough of them that it probably doesn't matter.

Holo continent complete

>>20743886
based and true

>>20743886
Can /3/anon project this on the globe and see if the north pole is not messed up?

>Death Masks are now canon

BUMP!

>>20720853
It's a perfect gambling game due to its scoring system. Beyond that, it's largely a meme. No one was suggesting to force everyone to use it to resolve issues, but I'd gladly use it in that way if someone else offered.
>>20725229
What do we do if no rep comes forward to handle the next round of voting?

>>20733623
I'm so glad you like her! It's always nice to have someone new who likes Rosemi!

So we were talking about processing coal into coke last thread. /nasa/ will have to build a facility to do so. We want to trap the sulfur, ammonia, and nitrogen so it doesn't contaminate the water via acid rain. That said this might be a fifty year project at minimum with how much steel we have to make before hand. We'll be well into industrial revolution by then. We can still export the raw coal in the meantime.

>>20752726
Why do you guys want to make coke? Are you trying to build a drug cartel?

>>20753040
The only drugs we produce are bread and pastry. Once you have a piece you won't ever want to have normal bread ever again.

>>20753248
I mean, sugar is just legal coke that doesn't make you high. I can see it working

>>20753460
We have ingredients gathered from hundreds of different planets, sugar is the least of you worries

/nasa/ found a way to stuff a tiny bread puppy inside a can and sell it as onaholes

As much as I like to focus on long term projects things have to unfold in real time. I will be dead in about thirty to fourty years. Sana has back problems now. So she's got 5-10 years at most. So while planning things for the future would be nice we have about 10 years to return to space. So our efforts should focus on vitubium shortcuts to return the station to orbit.

>>20733657
Woa, Mooms was the protagonist of Hololive all along.

>>20755125
Real time is a bad idea
Proposal: 1 thread = 5 years in universe
Not too much for massive changes
But just enough for progress
Maybe /nasa/ already established a stable society and is starting to urbanise

>>20738727
>>20738799
>>20743372
Thanks for your efforts anon, but as other anon says but the resource assessment and mountain additions were written with /morig/ being a LIP supervolcano in mind, so I wouldn't say there is a requirement for the addition of this boundary here. Also, keeping the Madagascar parallels going has become a priority and Madagascar gas a similar chain of mountains/volcanoes despite being in the middle of its plates.

>>20755648
This is very particular to /who/, other threads would have their own version of the pantheon, or maybe just have none whatsoever , They're encouraged to use it as they see fit. presumably, /rrat/'s religious texts would detail Bae as the center of the religion.
>>20755829
I don't think this is a good idea, working on vague time stasis is currently easier

>>20743886
Oh fuck yeah, looks awesome.
>>20745351
Yeah, can do, I'd wanna know what the full resolution anon is work with is. equirectangular is traditionally a 2:1 ratio, so I guess it might be 6192x3456?

>>20755829
5 years per thread is way too fast. In about 10 threads we'll hit industrial revolution.

>>20755829
I would keep it vague for now, we're spending a lot of threads just kind of setting up the worldbuilding basics.

>>20755829
seconding >>20756074, lets just keep the flow of time vague for now, we are still setting up the stage

>>20727887
>How about "Bylaws"?
That's exactly what they are. You got it, anon!

>>20725229
kuygt:
>/jp/ is makes up a different dimension to /vt/
>is makes up

>>20723761
the old /kfp/ Hi res map didn't include the mountain retcon from a month ago and has been outdated since then.
The current maps of /kfp/ are pretty low res and many rivers actually dissapeared from all of the compression.
So here is a new map...that will be outdated soon when meatanon is done doing the big map rework I seem to have a horrible timing drawing these lol
Still, this can still be valuable If it helps reworking the global map in the area of /kfp/

I'm hoping the chickens can survive the sea voyage from KFP to /nasa/. We'll take good care of chickens when they get here. We'll build air-conditioned hen houses for the chickens. Though they seem to be naturally adapted to cold mountain environments. Hope the tundra plains won't be too cold for them in the summer.

/nasa/ could get started on breeding programs that would breed some of /who/'s dairy cows with the long-haired tundra cattle to get dairy long-haired cattle. Long-haired cattle may not exist on Earth but they could exist here. Thoughts?

>>20759230
Breeding /nasa/'s dairy cows uoh...

>>20758104
The cold won't be a problem, but since most really aren't adaptad to the open seas you might want to brace for a lot of seasick passengers

>>20759230
As a fellow Sanallite i support this, if only for the aesthetic. Look at these fluffy little things!

>>20759339
>hairy* fairy cows

>>20760560
Hairy fairy cows?

>>20759230
I wonder if /nasfaqg/ would have a secretive cult that aims to create subtle breeding programs between the lines of plutocrats themselves.

>>20762293
>/nasfaqg/
>breeding
nigga they are all gay

>>20762293
Oh that ship heh has long since sailed.
yes, and they do

>>20762374
>Romanceanon was trying to create Kwisatz Haderach all along.

>>20762432
>romanceanon
>shipschizo
it all fucking makes sense

It would appear that this world has its own romance novelists as well. Can't wait to see some famous books get released, such as The Lusty Rosebuta Maid.

>>20762605
I wonder how popular the book "The Last Sanalite" would be in /rose/.

>>20763824
What's that book about? I've been mostly away for a few days.

>>20730538
Is the anon who talked about where coal would be located in the world still around? I wanted to know what nations would most likely it.

>>20763879
Its a book about the last Sanalite drifting alone among the stars in a space ship. If you can get past the Sana's feet worship poetry its not that bad.

>>20723813
So since the vote to swap /fbk/ and /mion/ went through, I made a mockup of the new borders. There were requests to keep the countries' respective sizes the same after swapping and to not leave either landlocked. With the added poles, the northern country shouldn't be a frozen wasteland, so that is no longer a concern. How do people feel about pic related? The left is the original and the right is the proposed change.
On a similar note, are there any updates on /pyon/? I know they gave a map of their proposed island, so is that what we're going with? Has a location and relative size been given yet so it can be placed on the map?

>>20764268
Looks good to me. I think /pyon/ requested to be on the equator, near the continent and 200-300 miles long about?

>>20764075
Rosebuds would love it! We're actually pretty refined, as we love things like reading and fine dining and such.

>>20759667
The fur would help the cattle survive the long winter. Plus we can sell the hides after slaughtering the cows when they're too old to produce milk.

>>20763984
NTA, but until he comes by you can chew on picrel. IRL coal deposits.

>>20764355
Is /pyon/ really sure that's what they want? Here's a quick edit of how small /pyon/ is on this map.

>>20765118
Found the post where they talked about it >>20289534
Probably best to wait until one of them comes by to confirm.

>>20764806
It looks like older lands have more coal in general. In the Americas there aren't really dinosaur fossils because those continents are relatively in what used to be uninhabited places on the globe. That said Americas do have lots of shale oil. Niji and Holo continents could have more coal than the indie continent. Coal is a but tricky to pin point because you have to look at where the continents used to be in pre-history to get an idea.

I wonder what /who/'s, /infinity/'s, and other steel nations' opinions are about using coke for iron blast furnaces. At least when the industrial revolution properly starts in 50-100 years.

>>20766103
I don't think they get an opinion, if you want industrial scale steel-making you pretty much need coke, at least to get started.

ha

>>20765118
>>20765368
Nice dick and balls

>>20768590
I do know blasts furnaces existed since the 12th century. /nasa/ is looking into coke to recycle the steel scrap we have in electric arc blast furnaces. Though we'll need clay to make grout bricks first. I think we might find clay in the southern forest on the border of /uuu/. Clay is a scarce material in the tundra plains.

OGsuner
holy shit i need to do a lot of searching on the old thread for what resources i have. If i recall off the top of my head then /risu/ is basically indonesia in the shape of japan?

>>20777456
Compile a list of resources then. Don't forget to anchor your post.

While I'm talking to you, it appears /nasa/ is too far away from /risu/ to make any agricultural trades. /nasa/ can dry out wheat but I don't know if /risu/'s nuts can last a half-year voyage. Also /nasa/ may have coal. However coal is too dangerous to transport on wooden ships over long voyages. So /risu/ is better off trading with nearby countries for coal. Logs would be a solid material to trade for raw coal.

I do have some suggestions for processing bog iron. You can use charcoal to smelt iron if your smeltery is hot enough. You can ask /infinity/ what the costs is building a charcoal smeltery. Charcoal can be made by coking wood and peat buried under dirt. If you have clay then making a charcoal kiln would be much better.

>>20779870
well the nuts gets blessed every year so i would say they would last until then. And yeah i feel like with risus constant tree chooping/replanting especially with the growth acceleration the food/wood would be our main export

>>20780078
Its a shame /nasa/ can't help you much. I've taken a liking to squirrel people. But until we build faster more durable ships than wind-sail galleons we can't really transport what /risu/ needs. Wheat grains and malt liquor would be the only goods we have to last the voyage. Unless sealed the sugar beet sugar would get wet by the rain. And even then you want a cool dry environment.

>>20781261
At least you have boats. We dont have shit except tiny fishing boats.

>>20781966
/nasa/ don't have boats. We rent a warehouse in /who/'s port town where we sell goods to merchants. /nasa/ has blueprints, but not the people nor materials to build ships.

>>20781966
Did you not read the port city proposal in /risu/?

>>20782505
not yet. ill do some reps now since i have time. I was trying to search for resource talk in last thread

>>20765432
It kind of makes sense, since it takes millions of years for the buried peat to be transformed into coal, and active volcanism destroys them. That said, at the same time heat and pressure also transform coal into higher-quality variants (with anthracite being the highest), the best coal deposits will be located in fold mountains, especially older ones or ones not too close to active boundaries to get destroyed (think the Appalachians, I think the Urals also have them).

>>20770553
found the next OP image

>>20779870
/risu/ should have a decent supply of clay and a lot of wood, so making charcoal shouldn't be a problem for them. Supposedly laterites were also used as a major source of iron (and nickel), but I can't find much information on that. It seems they're most commonly used as bricks to build things in the tropics, with the most famous laterite structure being the Angkor Wat.

On a somewhat related note, I also looked into what kind of minerals /risu/ might have, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like /risu/ will have many major ore deposits (that can be used in this tech level). It seems that apart from the aforementioned laterite iron and nickel, the majority of deposits there will be sedimentary exhalative deposits (SedEx), which is usually more rich in lead and zinc (although apparently silver also form among them). Silver is useful for currency, but lead's use on its own is pretty limited. Zinc can be useful as an export for those with more copper and tin, though.

>>20781966
Given the situation with /morig/, I'm kinda tempted to say /meat/ would like to sell some of its boats to /risu/. A bit of a dick move, I reckon.

>>20782853
/nasa/ could use lead. The problem is transporting lead to /nasa/ which is a huge risk given the length of the voyage. /nasa/ still has to look into mining its own minerals. Outside of chuubanite and coal what else could /nasa/ mine?

>>20783743
Also shale oil should be available but requires fracking to obtain it properly.

>>20782853
>/meat/ would like to sell some of its boats to /risu/
...
>/morig/ inspector investigates a ship of /meat/ design.
>finds only the adorably fluffy risuners
>tries very hard to resist tickling and petting them
>fails miserably
>little did they know they were actually petting and tickling some of the fiercest warriors /risu/ was sending overseas to be trained in the ways of the elite /meat/ raiders to increase their combat effectiveness as a nation.
jk, risu is too lovable and innocent for that... right? lol

>>20784360
Just don't start raiding /ggg/ too... Damn coast is longer than Brazil, we've got one ship keeping an eye on every hundred fishing villages...

>>20784861
/ggg/ isn't active enough here to discuss that, unfortunately. We kind of toyed around with the concept of it having a /meat/ cult in its inner circles, but that's only based on that one /meat/ member stream Gura did, and we don't know if that affects /ggg/.

>>20784360
>spoiler
Oh, you sweet summer child...

>>20782505
just read it. A lot of it looks nice except i dont think we would be getting steamships quite yet. It would probably make more sense to use traditional sails until we unlock/learn. The coastal port location is a good spot but pretty far away from the road that inf will be using. But its still a nice spot nonetheless. I suggest there be 2 port cities, one on each side and that the one near /inf/ would be more active considering how friendly we are with them.

>>20727887
>>20756399
>Bylaws
I like it, done.
>Do we need this?
>+ the reply chain
I mean, you can start editing a rentry link even without the edit code, it's actually pretty easy to just copy everything into a new one, if a bit tedious. I don't wanna leave it up to one person in case things go awry, also that person currently is me and I'm not sure I want to be responsible for doing that every time. If someone wants to copy everything now into a new rentry link and tend to it from then onwards they're welcome to, but ideally the responsibility would be moving from rep to rep.
>>20751716
>What do we do if no rep comes forward to handle the next round of voting?
We do what we did in my uni club; force someone to take it up. I don't feel like doing it again plus we agreed that it's a rotating position so..
>>20756506
>aaaaaaaa
My excuse is that it was 4am and I hadn't slept for 24h

>>20785361
Not sure you can force anything on an anonymous basket-weaving forum, anon...

>>20785261
Before people jump to conclusions over the word steamship, they're early steamships which are hybrids that have both an engine and sailing rigs. Also there are only two due to the fact that Risu does not have any coal, so any fuel would need to be transported from /∞/. So every ship minus two are traditional sailing ships and the two steamships are more for show as flagships.

And the Central Fleet would be under /∞/'s control since they're their ships, however you can use the shipyards to build your own ships along with /∞/. (Assuming permission is granted given we'd need to use the forest.)

>>20785798
/risu/ using shipyards to build their own ships should be apart of the contract of land usage. The land owners should be allowed to use the services of the land they're renting with fair compensation. Usually. The loophole would be if the shipyard doubles as a military base.

>>20785798
>>20786045
OGsuner
Envisioned it as /inf/ teach us how to make boats and we make our own boats. If they wanna lend us supplies im fine with that. Sometimes I forget in no longer the only risuner here so I have to adjust to not just making shit up on my own uncontested. I would very much like the boats we start out with to be pic related as we want to keep this to vt/risu lore and ID built this in minecraft + it being an iconic indonesian ship. At the very least it should be the first ships we build and can act as a base for future models.

>>20786655
To be fair, they're pretty neat, and I really dig the structure being only on the back and not the front. It gives a different vibe from European designs. Reminds me to look up possible ship designs for /meat/.

>>20785261
>I suggest there be 2 port cities, one on each side and that the one near /inf/ would be more active considering how friendly we are with them.
I only suggested building the one port city since it had he shortest connecting cross country road, and there was already had a city on the /∞/ side. Was this what you had in mind or do you want /∞/ to build two port cities?

>>20786045
This is a sound idea to gain access to Risu's lumber Thought I was going to be sloppy and say wood, eh?. The port city also has a garrison as well in order to protect it from pirates and invaders.

>>20786655
That would be part of the agreement that any ships you build would be yours and in exchange /∞/ would be able to use lumber from Risu to build and repair their own ships (Assuming any trees cut down would be replanted). The only question is how we could make our designs compatible, unless you already have small fishing vessels that use pinisi, and just want to use the shipyards to try and make larger versions.

>>20786894
Another reason why i want this to be the main ship of risu at least early on. Sure it may not be as big as a galleon but it would be known as the /risu/ ship of their own design, something they can be proud of. I know a lot of people are gonna go for european style ships so i thought being an ID chuuba worshipper it only makes sense for /risu/ to have indonesian ships. And come on it just looks so nice.

From the (somewhat superficial) texts I've read on minerals, I don't think I need to modify /who/s mining and resources, althought it's hard to know what else we've got

>>20787076
OGsuner
Oh i see. I misread that completely. In that case Im all for that idea. I really just wanted settlements and other facilities near the road ends but i presume there would be plenty either built by risu or inf. As for the third part yeah i would definitely say inf can use our trees but that replanting thing would be enforced up the ass. As for the pinisi I was thinking of using a somewhat bigger version maybe about 1/2 to 3/4 the size of a galleon. At least enough for supplies to be stored for long voyages.

>>20787172
/nasa/ is pretty much space Austrailia. Though we'll most likely model our ships after British Empire vessels. Even if they are aluminium ships.

>>20787172
Sounds good to me. While the ships are being built, do you think it makes sense for prospective risuner mariners to learn how to sail with help from /meat/? Following up on the ship selling deal, I'm thinking maybe /meat/ can help train them by helping them run a shipping operation that will also handle the transport of goods traded between the two countries and it helps to make /morig/ patrol waste their time on these ships instead.

>>20787998
I dont think morig would care. They seem intent on their searches and I actually really dont like this idea as it might ruin any potential relation with morig, Since they are pretty close to us I was hoping to at least talk to them without them thinking of us as the tribals that are meats friends. It all depends on how well /meat/ is willing to co operate as I would imagine there would still be risuners that would be VERY hesitant to get on boats with them. Especially on the west coast. Is there a meat rep here id like to go over the details of their agreement so i can remember to save it in my notes.

>>20787540
At least you have mountains to mine. /nasa/ is a relatively flat plain with very few hills. Great for farming but not so much mining. We can dig up shale and coal fine. However if we want minerals then we have to dig DEEP. The crater would be a start. Though judging from the energy readings its most likely chuubanite. Chuubanite is fantastic, but we still need aluminium, iron, diamond dust, palladium, lithium, etc.

>>20788377
You're talking to one I would say the spoilered part is more a response to /morig/'s plan to search every ship their patrols find that shares /meat/'s design. I don't think it'll really cause any incidents since they seem to be quite firm about not attacking without concrete proof, just that the more /meat/-designed ships around, the more work the patrol will have to do and make the chance of them stumbling upon something truly suspicious lower.
That said, I'm aware that /risu/ probably won't like being put in a position like that, so I'm asking if you think a deal like that would work. It isn't really necessary, since /inf/ is always around. Just thinking that a deal like that could be interesting.

>>20787683
The area circled would be a large shipping city with shipyards and a garrison. The intention is for it to be a giant trading hub and base of operations for the defense of the trade routes and Risu.

>>20787998
>>20788377
Just so you know, the waters around western Risu and any trade routes in the area will be protected by /∞/. As long as no one starts a conflict with us or any of our allies there shouldn't be a problem.

>>20788670
I think it would be fine as long as its done on the east coast. Just for risuners safety. I still havent forgot /meat/ proposal of taching /risu/ about the bog iron extraction which to risu would be a vast improvement. By the way what kind of ships do /meat/ use again? im currently trying to do reps on /risu/ natural resources and out it in one document to make it official along with the rest of the risu lore.

>Spent the day reading about mineral deposits and forgot to do preserved food reps.

Whoops.

>>20787998
>>20788377
To be honest, the /morig/ navy probably has a faction that is glad to see peaceful relations between /meat/ and /risu/, because that's that much more territory not getting raided, so our limited resources can be focused on other areas. However, in typical deadbeat fashion there's also a faction of hardline deadbeat admirals fuming about it who would like open hostilities and (hopefully wrongly) see this as risunners just becoming a tool for /meat/ military operations. And then there are the admirals who'd just want to pull the fleets back home and pursue a more isolationist foreign policy. They're probably all arguing and accusing each others of falseflagging.
Also I don't think we said every ship in the Holo sea would end up getting ascertained by a patrol, without satellite technology I don't think that's physically possible kek. More like, if a patrol happens to cross the path of another ship, those are the criteria used to decide whether they should investigate.

>>>>20788809
OGsuner who posts an awful lot forgetting to say OGsuner but i think people can tell when its me anyway

I forgot about inf being on the west coast as well desu. Just so used to seeing them on the east side. And technically though they are not allies morig would be in a way helping us with their constant searches. Of course with the pinisi being risus main boat it would be super easy for morig to tell which boat is of risuner design. Ill say /risu/ would like the deal but first /meat/ would have to just spend some time and gain the natives trust. At the very least teach us about that bog iron and we could go from there.

>>20788946
Hmm, that should work too. I think the proposal about the goods transport still stands, although it would be for when /risu/ trades with others on that side of the continent outside /inf/, as I think someone's handling the shipment already.
As for what kind of ships /meat/ use... I don't know. I've been reading on ships that would fit /meat/, but they're somewhat lacking. The mesoamericans don't use big ships and don't seem to sail far, while the Viking longships, despite their reputation, don't seem to handle open sea all that well due to the shallow draught. I'll have to do my reps on ship designs before I'm able to give a more concrete answer.
That said, the deal aboutteaching how to find and use bog iron is still open, as well as other forms of extracting metal from other sources (I'm just going to assume it's possible to extract iron from laterite, probably in a similar manner to bog iron given the similar iron-containing material). /meat/ will also be willing to provide the first batch of tools at bargain price so that /risu/ doesn't have to *completely* reinvent the wheel. Of course, there's always the p2w option of importing better iron ores from /meat/ if the local supply is not enough for /risu/'s need.

>>20789374
The original idea's that the more ships there are, the less likely /morig/ patrol will end up crossing the path with actually problematic ships, but then again, I respect /risu/'s wish not to be put on the spot like this. Well, OOCly speaking, /meat/ is genuine about helping /risu/ develop, since we can always raid someone else, but friends who like to trade with /meat/ is more valuable. Of course, ICly people in /morig/ will have to just take /meat/'s word for it, which is naturally unlikely to be trusted especially among the hardliners.

So /nasa/ might have a stupid easy solution for storing dried meat, fruits, and vegetables in air-tight containers. Silica beads in paper packets. Thoughts?

>>20789374
Kek. Im really trying not to have /risu/ be used by everyone else in that way. The reason why im allowing people to build roads on our land is because in return it could bring /risu/ out of the stone age that theyre in. Risu is of course independant and they just want to worship their squirrel oshi. We would be well aware our land is unique and that there would be many people interested in it due to our extremely fast growth accelerated plant life.

>>20789953
Risu is totally fine with trading with meat. Im gonna get some sleep but tomorrow is my day off so ill be having some fun updating and discussing shits with you lot then. I stated before that /risu/ saw inf come to their shores and basically said
>holy shit they have all this cool stuff i wonder if we could have that too
And that is currently driving them. Risuners want to improve their technology not only for their own safety against foreigners but also to better their lives all in the hopes of pleasing their oshi. Ill ask what is it meat wants from /risu/ assuming one of the answers is magical nuts with their enriched flavor as well as wood. (reminder tomorrow im going to determine which wood risu would have I know teak will be one of the mains) by the way meathead you can just say your ships are viking design but a lot bigger or they have this instead since its fantasy kek

>>20790509
Yeah, after some quick rep, I think /meat/ ship might end up resembling something like knarr (actual Norse design with deeper draught, which admittedly negate the main benefits of the more martial-inclined longships) and a lateen sail. The use of lateen sail is both because it's better when it comes to sailing "against the wind" compared with the more European square sail, which fits the early lore about /meat/ doing that when going to raid, and because the shared similarity makes the training deal more plausible (due to the similarity with tanja sail). If you're up for it, it might even point to some kind of shared lore about why the two places end up having similar sails.
/meat/ ships probably will be bigger than knarr due to the more modern period, and I think it might have a centre castle (the structure of a ship built on top of the deck), compared with the aftcastle of pinisi and aft- and forecastle European ships have.

So what's stopping /risu/ from just kicking out /infinity/ when they get what they want?

>>20790994
That's called nationalization, which historically, comes with it's fair share of problems, see: Mexican nationalization of it's oil industry in the 1930's had the british come at them ready to embargo Mexico, there's other examples, but I don't want to think right now

>>20789953
Any strategy that works by increasing the traffic of non-/meat/ /meat/ trading ships would be highly effective. If 90% of those ships ended up being completely unaffiliated to /meat/ and their activities, the patrols might give up on that bit of racial profiling altogether to focus on raiding ships instead, allowing /meat/ traders to travel unimpeded.
>>20790951
It's pretty neat how far against the wind triangle sails can push a boat, this reminded me of this diagram I came across. (shape of the polar fct depends on the specific sails obvs).

>>20790994
That's the kind of thing wars are fought after, so I don't think /risu/ would risk having to go to war with someone like /inf/ over whatever benefits they might get from that move. Plus, it's downright unsporting!

>>20791232
But isn't what /infinity/ doing more in line with creating a Hong Kong in /risu/?

>>20791396
maybe? It'd still follow the same rules, if /infinity/ is a competent state they'd probably just go to war to keep the thing open, althought if /risu/ could get a large enough alliance then /infinity/ would be forced to stand down, they'd still ask for some sort of reparations, Realpolitik, baby!

Food preservation reps are mostly done. /nasa/ has various methods for preserving space meals. The obvious method is vacuum sealing. We suck the air out of the package until it shrinks around the food. If we can't suck all the oxygen out then we displace it with nitrogen. Most of the atmosphere is nitrogen. Nitrogen is an inert gas that doesn't react to anything. So food won't brown, ripen, decay, or spoil with nitrogen. For dry foods we add silica gel packets. Silica gel absorbs moisture around which keeps food dry. Its how we keep jerky dry for months. And obviously traditional canning, curing, and marinating methods still work.

Speaking of rations /nasa/ has space-age meals in packets and MREs. The packets need to be injected with boiling water to rehydrate and cook the meal. That's mostly used in zero-G environments. /nasa/ has traditional MREs, Meals Ready to Eat. MREs are sealed in plastic and keep for years until you need them. You pop them open, add water, and they'll cook automatically using crystals. MREs are ration food. I ate my first MRE. It gave me a new appreciation for tobasco sauce that made it not taste like crap. I hated tobasco sauce back then.

>>20791858
>>20723761
Forgor anchor.

>>20791858
Nice.

>>20791984
Modern food preservation is only possible with plastic. Even a sandwich can be kept fresh for weeks if sealed inside an air-tight nitrogen package. That said plastics need hydrocarbons. Petroleum is the main source of plastic.

Hoping the anchor post answers the deadbeats' question about food preservation. We can prepare whole dehydrated meals too. All you need is a kettle or pot of boiling water. Its no steak and salad but its pretty good, nutritious, and high calorie. That said always eat your fresh food before cracking open the pre-packaged stuff.

Ri2ner here i guess. With Our climat being subtropic and temperate, with lots of open fields, in theory we could have lots of pastures and livestock

>>20795334
I think barring large-scale deforestation (which doesn't seem like what risuners would do), the majority of /risu/ would likely be some kind of seasonal forest (evergreen might be possible in some areas with consistent water supply) rather than open fields. Your best bet in that regard would likely be the southwestern coast (northwestern coast would likely be affected by monsoon and be forested), where the trees begin thinning to shrubs and grass like a savanna.

>>20795334
What kind of livestock? Milk is off the table for Risunans. So that leaves eggs and wool. You could raise birds in the forest easy. Especially ducks, geese, and quail. The only thing you'll need plains for is sheep or alpaca.

>>20791725
I don't see why /risu/ would try something like that after getting into the alliance with /infinity/-/kfp/

>>20796131
this is all assumptions on the hypothetical of /risu/ kicking out /infinity/, key word: Hypothetical. they don't have any actual reason to do so.

>>20795492
Having a flat topography doesnt mean it's just forest

>>20796550
But I didn't mention the flat topography playing a role...?

>>20796592
Sorry I had a tard moment

>>20796645
It's fine, I have quite a few of those myself from time to time.
Still, the heavy rainfall from warm tropical current (in the east) and seasonal monsoon (in the north) should mean most of those areas will be wooded barring outside intervention, although they would be more seasonal than the evergreen forests in the tropics. The southwest would likely be the place where grassland and shrubland is more common since they aren't (as?) affected by the monsoon and is kept dry by a cold current to the west.

Well, us risuners may have done some logging to build homes with already. but not on an aggressive scale. even with vtubium fertile trees that grow 2x faster than regular trees we will have strict harvesting traditions to keep the forests as populated.
Silviculture would be regarded as a core part of our culture
>plant 5 saplings for each timber cut down
>selective logging, do not cut anything below a certain size
>switch logging regions every year

/nasa/ Principal's log:

Once the station is unfolded I think I have a plan with what major project /nasa/ will do next. We will need to set up a waterwheel sawmill to process lumber. From there we need to build an electric current blast furnace to recycle our metals from the crash. If we find coal then we'll process it into coke. We'll trap the sulfur and carbon dioxide gasses because we'll use those. Sulfur will be processed into sulfuric acid for batteries and galvanization later. Once clean carbon dioxide will be compressed into dry ice.

Obviously we'll need some time to get things ready. There's also irrigating the crops over the summer. We'll need to dig wells and build pumps. Crops still need to be watered by hand until we at least get a new fuel souce. It seems quarrying the crater isn't a bad idea after all. We're recieving the same energy readings from the meteorite underground. That means there's more chuubanite underneath us to experiment with.

Preparations for lift off should be finished by the end of the week. We're going to use nuclear rockets but with vitubium cells instead of uranium. The vitubium should not decay like uranium. If it does break off then its already bonded with the material. So it shouldn't harm anything (unless you breathe it). I will be taking seat in the captain's chair. If this launch fails then I will go down with the ship. Sana be with us.

>>20723761

>>20797253
Yeah, that's what I think. The thing is that forest is a biome that can (slowly) propagate themselves, which is why even though charts may say humid subtropical climates will have grassland and shrubs alongside forest, the less deforested areas of these climates usually still get covered in tropical moist forest (picrel). Given /risu/'s rather sustainable way of logging, it's safe to say that their activities don't disrupt the ecosystem enough to cause the forest to retract, hence my thought on it being mostly forested.

>>20797299
Electric blast furnace? Do you mean electric arc furnace? Blast furnaces don't run on electricity afaik.
Regardless, godspeed, Sanallites. Rooting for your success.

>>20797528
I meant arch yeah. Fuck I need to sleep.

Yo fun fact!
Did you know that before a plague killed off every feudal tribe in the Amazon, the entire region was flat plains?
Archaeologists found ruins of a feudal town in the middle of a dense jungle.
meaning that the huge jungle we know today were originally their tree farms that propagated and overgrew beyond their original borders

>>20796328
There's two scenarios that would play out
/infinity/ verses /risu/ would be a rout in favor of /infinity/.
It the allies of /infinity/ and /risu/ get involved it could spark a continent wide conflict ending with everyone joining forces to destroy /nasfaqg/, the ones behind continuing the war to line their own pockets

>>20798066
Damn jews.

>>20798066
t. /nasfaqq/ merchant seeking to destroy his rivals

>>20798177
t. /nasfaqq/ merchant who would get destroyed.

>>20798066
>>20798177
>>20798393
*eats chips* Damn these psanish telenovela be wack

>>20799764
Shit, now I wanna know who are the spaniards.

>>20704250
Maybe a bit late, but after thinking about it more, I want to ask how cold is Mt. Mori (that is due to chuubanite effect)? I kind of want to revisit its climate, but that information will likely be necessary to determine how things look like there?

>>20802392
Opinion of fellow deadbeats would be welcome here, but I imagine it somewhat like that: it's cold enough to have gentle eternal snows even at the bottom of the volcano's cone, a radius of maybe 5 kilometers, as that is the point with the highest concentration of chuubanite. Then the thermal effects fade away slowly as you move away, until the cooling effects of the chuubanite are completely negligible at 100-200 kilometers of distance.

>>20802392
Lorebeat who came up with Mt. Mori and the Underworld here. My entire motivation for coming up with the cold effect was to justify why there would be cherry trees on a (then considered) Mediterranean island. Everything else that transpired was autism.

>>20803623
Based. The island is tropical now, so we need that cold even more.

I feel I should also mention the reason the Underworld wasn't given any exact dimensions besides extending out from the mountain "for kilometers" is because 1) I think in freedom units and 2) even if I could convert units of distance in my head, I have a frankly hilariously poor ability to conceptualize scale.

>>20803700
you can get cherry trees in the tropics as long as you have enough latitude

>>20803054
Thanks for the info, I'll assume the cold is more or less limited to a circle with a radius of 100~200km centred at the mountain, then. I'll see what I can do, although it might have some unexpected consequences like the area around (and north of) Mt. Mori being relatively dry, while the land south of it being wetter as water in the hot air get dumped there when it cools.

>>20804200
To be fair, it's not like we have a clear scale on the map to begin with, so we're going to eyeball it based on coordinates regardless.

>>20804653
Sounds good. I imagine a mountain sized heatsink would cause some wacky induction cells and other meteorological crap.
This gives a pretty decent idea of the size of landmasses relative to Earth equivalents (they're overlaid as an outline) >>20730538 . I'd say /morig is about 1400-1600 km long.

>>20804200
Cute imperialbeat. It was a good idea, you can leave working out the gritty details to us autists.

I wonder how I could integrate Mumei's late night streams into the lore of /who/, but that will be an issue for future me. Sleep deprivation is the hooman's natural status.

>>20804980
A bit smaller, but just slightly - the longest straight line on land that you can draw would probably be ~1300km. The red lines and numbers mark the horizontal and vertical length of the island (more or less), as well as the range of latitude, while the blue circle is the Chill Zone (TM).
The entire mountain, based on >>20803054, will be icecap climate by definition since it seems permanently frozen. Admittedly, the wording can be interpreted in different way, but if its precipitation is always snow, it's safe to assume the ground will be frozen almost all the time as well. From the bottom of the mountain to the edge of the Chill Zone, there will be more or less a series of roughly circular, concentric climate zones, from the centre to edge:
-Icecap (EF)
-Tundra (ET)
-Subarctic (Dfd~Dfc), rainfall is sparse both because of the low temperate and the permanent high pressure zone preventing wetter air from flowing in, although seasonal temperature change is still observable, meaning that rings outside of this will differ between the north and south.
-North: Continental (Dfb~Dfa) / South: Subtropical highland (Cwc~Cwb), the difference mostly due to rainfall pattern, with the south receiving a lot of rain during summer
-North: Cool semi-arid (BSk) / South: Subtropical monsoon(Cwa), with differences similar to above, this is also probably where the Chill Zone ends, and the surrounding area has temperature pattern mostly unaffected by it.
It should be noted that depending on local topography, the range of each zone can be fairly small, and some might not be distinct enough to have a noticeable effect, but it could still affect rainfall patterns, mostly in the form of making the area between Mt. Mori and the eastern ridge dry all-year.

>>20806512
Ohh how extremely neat, thanks for this anon! I'll write this out in a lore entry-esque way and anchor it, this is good stuff. "Chill Zone" would definitely be a Mori-approved nickname for it kek.
>>20806175
Unhealthy work culture that has everyone stay at the job till late at night, Japan style? Would be good for productivity.

>>20806512 (Me)
For the rest of the island, in the south, the climate probably has a more belt-like distribution, from tropical monsoon at the southwestern coast to tropical savanna in the majority of the flatland. Near the southern edge of the mountain ridge, you'll see a belt of subtropical monsoon due to the rain shadow effect. The same effect also means the strip of land north of the mountain ridge will be drier in the summer, giving it a Mediterranean climate (Csa), although some part of it at the east might have a dry variant of humid subtropical (Cfa) instead, due to both the lower elevations of the ridge there, and Mt. Mori's high pressure preventing sea wind from flowing through there.
In terms of agriculture, continental is the traditional breadbasket climate when it comes to wheat and barley (although tropical wheat plantation has been gaining traction nowadays), while rice do well in subtropic and tropic climates. Wheat and grape are traditionally associated with Mediterranean climate, although they can do well in other climates as well. As such, the main wheat fields might be somewhere immediately north of Mt. Mori, where the more temperate climate suits them well (and is not as dry as the region between it and the northern ridge due to low temperate), while rice can probably be grown in the strip of Cwa northwest to it. The northern coast is more suitable for grape and olive, although production might be limited by lack of land space.
Usually, grapes do best if they're in a climate with dry summer and wet winter, which the perpetually cold and dry(-ish) Mt. Mori unfortunately prevents. It might result in poor grapes quality, although that could be offset by higher chuubanite content presumably in the surrounding soil (either by its own merit, or if it has some effect beyond making things chill).

Insomnia hypothesis for Mt. Mori courtesy of /nasa/

The chuubanite can absorb energy as easily as it can release it. Something is causing the chuubanite to release energy more than it can absorb. Which is why the chuubanite creates cold: its constantly absorbing the heat around it because something is syphoning the energy away. Could be a weird lava flow or something. Just my thoughts.

>>20807234
Ah, this reminds me of that planetary sciences course I took. Mainly for the easy GPA, but I ended up really enjoying it. This all checks out to me. Having the grape growth be chuubanite-empowered by the Goddess' love for wine is attractive, we might make it a very limited but premium vintage, as it literally can't be grown anywhere other than the small area where the chuubanite concentration is high enough but the soil is also not frozen. Or we could just do it on the northern coast and then the limited yield is simply due to the subpar conditions and limited land.
>>20807368
I've wondered about where the energy could be going too. I'm thinking similarly to you, either it's accumulating in the hotspot below the volcano in preparation for the endtimes eruption, or it's being pumped straight into Mori to empower her psychopomp activities, or a bit of both. This would be more of a theological discussion at the moment, won't really affect the events of the world.

All these research
One glance and you couldnt tell this was /vt/

>>20807831
This is basically a weird /wbg/-/sci/-/3/-/his/ colony.

>>20807831
Turns out nerds like vtubers
who would have guessed

>>20807780
You can always do both and have all three available (three tiered wine associated with Mori, heh...):
-Best: grapes grown on chuubanite-enriched soil
-Good: grapes grown northwestern coast, decent quality but otherwise mundane
-Meh: grapes grown elsewhere, passable but not very good

>>20807946
That seems like the best. Everyone should be able to get wasted on wine on /morig/, even if you're a whoreson who can't afford sacred Mt. Mori wine.
he missed the Tier 4 kiss ASMR wine

>>20807946
Meh grapes are raisins. The worst kind of muffin.

Do you think there are supervillains who think harnessing the power of the /here/ gods will make them powerful?

>>20808132
Groomers, yes

>>20808132
"You cant stop me now, janny! Behold! My Chuubadynamoinator! With this machine I will capture Her Holiness Kiki PyonPyon and absorb her godly powers into my body! And once I become a god, I will take over all of /pyon/ & soon the whole world!"

On a religious pov, having deities that are mortal-bound aka /here/ (Kiki, Pippa, etc) would have some in-universe consequences
The positive, people know the deities exist and so is heavenly realm.
The negative, cultures like /asp/ who want to be gods are born, people who question why should we worship deities that never visit them, and paranoia that there may be deities living in secret among them (Risu and CLG)

>>20807780
I wonder if the deeper you go in the underworld then the warmer it gets because you're close to hell's gate aka the mantle. Also have you thought about having natural hotsprings?

>>20808930
Luckily deities that are openly /here/ have been minor (indie) or regional (small corpo). This would create an image where only low level scrub gods are on the mortal plane while the big guns are in Asgardtopia
It would be like Rome stopped worshipping Zeus and worship Cybele

>>20809203
Deeper vertically, yes, certainly, Mt. Mori is dormant but there's still a volcanic hot spot down there, so if you go spelunking deep enough you're getting close to magma quicker than elsewhere.
I remember an anon mentioned hotsprings somewhere on the thread, not sure we've officialized it yet. Given the volcano and how much Mori loves them, we'd have some for sure.

Bjump

When the jannies see you talking shit

>>20812657
Damn, now that's gonna take a lot of hot pockets.

>>20812692
That's just one meido. Imagine a group

>>20813456
They very rarely need a group to handle something. Last time it happened was probably how Rushia turned into a radioactive crater.

>>20814638
>people in this world assumes the jannies are the ones bringing forth the apocalypse since they always appear with each other

Krohayo, Gramps from Infinity here. Because our rep is MIA and I'm going to be in that position to for a couple of day, I want to throw this her as a gift for our risuner friends. The good things is that I can see our navy commander is doing good work with the thread as a chief in absence.

If something of this contradict you lore throw it out, as it may be an unreliable narrator, a drunk in Kronii's milk hack of a writer who doesn't proofread his ramblings. I even take out a third tale because it was literally smut lol.

>Khroniicles of our stay in /Risu/, volume I

>It's day forty since I've come to the land of the Risuer, a civilization so different to us that its uniqueness make me question everything I have taken from granted in Infinity. This community are one with nature, you can look at them in the forest and the rivers and you might not see them as they become indivisible of the scenery, painted with the same brutish colors and sharing its sense of equilibrium with other critters. Sometimes, —oh, Goddess, please ignore the foul words than I am about to say— makes me anxious not sharing that bond with the natural order, lose oneself on the uncivilized drawing that is the Risu forest. If not for this tribe unstoppable obsession for the nut, center of their culture, one could just say they are not human in nature. So important is this object, the NUT, that the word is used for more that describing the object, its also used as a verb for some well know activities for humankind and, of course, to the insatiable hunger for pleasure of the people of my homeland. I could recall a preposterous scene were we were confused about this word and what they were proposing us, that we offended them by proposing trading it for other resources, as we though they were referring to the object and not the... ritual. What was a nice talk became a grotesque comedy staging, with Risuner running to the trees, teeth showing violence and eyes wide open with ire, throwing to us rocks that they stock in there as emergency weaponry.

>After some time suffering this pathetic destiny we could calm them through sharing with them some Kronii's Milk and selected meat that was originally for our commanders —they in exchange gave us beverage and food based on nuts, unfathomable and incredible tasty—, which gave us the opportunity to participate on the rite originally proposed. Free of any residual anger and misunderstanding, both the native and us, fallen asleep of fatigue.

>Khroniicles of our stay in /Risu/, volume II

>More than two months have passed since our civil engineers have join our military basement to keep the work on our foreign prime opus, the trade corridor on Risu. I, a simple scrivener, have found great joy in this enterprise. It is not because I have been chosen as the one to inscribe this marvelous; unique; overwhelmingly grandiose; lavishly develop with the noblest materials; project —which, of course, it is a honor—. No, it is the land of Risu and their people that have made my spirit bloom with its soothing beauty. So vast is the ocean of differences between our cultures that every step I make and every word I share with them —something that has taken an arduous effort to make it possible— fill me with immeasurable pleasure and there has not been a day were my eyes have not been flooded with childish joy and satisfying curiousness. It was no other than yesterday, as a perfect descriptor for this, than I have found that the Risuner, whom we initially though as simple minded nut-obsessed producers, have more to them than that. Which activity could distract this people of their sacred destiny of cherishing the nut? Ah, but an universal one my reader, it is not other than the magical world of music.

>Of course, you may say, 'so they are not so different than us! where that fascination comes from then, you uninspired letters man?'.

>The astonishing in it is —and it cannot be in other way— that even the music of the Risuner is based on nuts.

>'The only nut here is you, you pestilent scribe,' you might say. And it is true, as keeping myself clean in this land has been odyssey on itself worth to write about in another occasion. But I digress.

>As I was saying: all is in the NUT. Ah, that centerpiece of Risu culture: food, sacred object, inspiration for words and activities, symbol of their Goddess and the land they inhabit. The nut, worked as instrument —several of them! the Risuner simplicity has been exaggerated— produce some beautiful and inspired sounds...

>They make castanets of nuts and with the wood of the trees they make percussion instruments, something alike guitars but with a more treble sound and impostor wood xylophone.

>It doesn't stop there! To reach the rich part of the nut, a strong but precise pressure must be done, and the same principle is put into action on their music. Aggressive hitting but with such an art of restriction makes for loud but gentle sounds coming from this walnut tree-made instruments.

>And then, this magical event of musical chemistry gets its stronger ingredient: the chorus made from risuners of every age and gender, in perfect unison but different tones, that would make cry the most somber orchestral director of Infinity. It is said in this land that the voice of every single soul in this land is polished on the playful routine of singing along a chant while working the nuts, something that I would call outlandish if I haven't seen it myself. This is such a component of their culture that their work depends on the singing: the rhythm, the order, the joint effort.

>Such beautiful sounds and songs, even if I can't fully appreciate it meanings, leave me in awe.

>Let me end this impertinent display of verbiage with a tale of the Goddess Risu and the music that have been trusted me by the native, this but an interpretation of what I have understood from my bickering unravel with their language:

>Came the Nut Goddess to harvest our produce once more —editor note: ambiguity of the time is in the original, as is common on legends, even if the risuner says this is history and not myth— and when she found a meager display of fruit and our famished bodies. With unrest, she questioned us.

>— 'My children,' she said, 'what miserable force has made this pitiful present for my people'.
>— 'We are sorry our--,' tried to express her sorrow the leader of our community.
>— 'I didn't ask for an apology, I asked why,' she retort while gently stopped her by putting a finger on the lips.
>— 'Outlanders. Violent ones. They came from far into the waters of our costs with unstoppable rage and unscrupulous desire of looting our lands. It was from the side where the sphere of days go to rest'.

>(Editor note: Of course, I said when they told me —and you probably are thinking it too now–, /meat/)

>– 'Oh, my offspring, such suffering... don't worry about it. Keep the harvest, I don't need it if my sons and daughters succumbing to hunger is the price.'
>— 'No, no, no. Please. We can't fail you. I would bring shame to us. Let us--'

>She couldn't end the sad tirade when the Goddess repeated the previous gesture of silencing her and proceed to make her sit on the ground. Then, she asked the rest to do the same. After she was sure everyone was in position she stripped herself of earthy garments, watered her body from head to toes with some nut milk that was part of the offering until a small pond was made at her feet. The fascinated splendor numb the minds of the present and it was at that time that the Nut Goddess started producing the most heavenly sounds from her throat, making the liquid become a blinding light until her body was not but mere shine. At that moment their bodies climaxed —editor note: I think that is the most precise translation to the word used— by the gentle caress of the melody from the sacred one. Moments later, every single one of them where at peace. Then Risu the Collector Goddess said:

>– 'Next year, you will flourish again and our destiny, yours and mine, will be fulfilled.'
>— 'We will make you proud our--,' silenced again the servant was.
>— 'You always make me proud children. An unchanged purpose of nut harvesting and feasting is our duty. But I'm not a ruler, you see, I'm as much as a servant of my people as you are mine provider. If you suffer to accomplish your part, I won't accept it. That would bring shame to me, but what is more important, it would fill my heart with sadness. So, if I must hunger for you and you can't reap the reward of me claiming your offering, it is a equally valid exchange. Fairness, it shall be.'

>Then the goddess smiled; made a cheerful giggle to calm the smallest of the tribe; grabbed her tail to squeeze some remaining milk in it; took her garb and dress up; and walked into the forest. The ritual was completed, not as it was written but as it was needed. The next day the risuner went back to their work routine, with their stomach full and their soul even fuller, singing the new gift the divine Risu has provided.

>>20790994
>>20791396

OGsuner
Interesting topic to come to when I wake up. Ill make something clear. /inf/ are our allies but im not going to just let them walk around like they own the place. /risu/ owns /risu/ and if /inf/ does anything really stupid like over kill the trees or try to abuse their power in any way then yeah they can GTFO. Its gonna take a fucking long time before /risu/ is anywhere near as advanced as /inf/ though. We also kind of know our place as well, considering if /inf/ wanted to they could just destroy us so its better to make friends. This is the same reason why were going to be friendly with /meat/. Risu is pretty weak as a military until our population boom really kicks in and we are more united as a nation rather than a bunch of tribes scattered about (even though we all worship one oshi).

>>20816510
>>20816555
>>20816600
OGsuner
HOLY FUCKING SHIT KRONII BROS ARE FUCKING AMAZING AT WRITING! bruh what the hecc and I dont think i ever thought of using nuts as musical instruments but thats going in lore cuz it sounds cool.

>>20817338
Anchoring >>20723761

>>20723761
Anchoring the Climate of /morig/ https://rentry.org/7co3v
Thanks again to /meat/anon for the analysis

>>20818195
you got a typo in the pic link

>>20818432
Oops, totally catbox having a fatal bug, not me copy-pasting wrong. Thanks for the heads up lol.

>>20816555
>unique; overwhelmingly grandiose; lavishly develop with the noblest materials; project —which, of course, it is a honor—.
kek I already love this chronicler. Great stuff anon, this /inf/ pioneer is really going through Le Sauvage Noble moments.

>new map
>new lore
Damn for an indie thread that just appeared out of nowhere /meat/ is invested a lot in this compared to the bigger chuuba threads

>>20819251
We have a lot of downtime even when the jannies aren't nuking us, so might as well put the autism into public projects like this

>>20758104
The winter wouldn't be so much as problem as the sea travel. Nasa's winter isn't THAT much colder than that of the KFP highlands, so air conditioned rooms shouldn't be necessary.

We could, alternatively, try and negotiate a land route, which would probably be more survivable for the chimkins.

alright, the new language for /nasfaqg/ has began. I started with a simple outline and explanation of the script, some grammar, and words.
https://files.catbox.moe/4l1fak.pdf

>>20820817
Its reads more like Seabrew than anything Slavo-Arabic. Steel a cool conlang.

On that note, I should probably work on the KFP conlang, even if its just German with bits of Nihhongo mixed in

>>20820817
Holy fucking shit language anon I kneel.
Are you going to continue work on that? If not, do you mind me possibly doing some additions / edits, perhaps in the form of a related language, an evolution of Kat Noɬ, a dialect of some sort, or a simple expansion/modification of the dictionary? I have some ideas on how to include some /nasfaqg/ culture into the language. I have some experience in making conlangs but you likely have more, and I definitely do not want to steal or ruin your project.

>>20822110
i don't consider myself experienced in conlanging, Kikinese was my first, but where it may seem that way comes from my experience in linguistics in general. if you want to collaborate, you can just tell me what you want to change. i'll think about making it a google doc where you can suggest/edit if i can give your gmail permissions, just don't use your personal gmail lol. if you can come up with another way to collaborate that's easier, i'm all ears.

>>20820817
Holy crap, that's pretty amazing. Makes me wonder what the lore of the language and its origins are - is this the ancient language of the Stock Exchange itself? Or is this a kreole "common" language used by traders the origin of which came from the fusion of many Holo languages?

>>20823491
I plan on making a language for most generals as long as I can. I want to make these languages similar based off of geographic distance, but I also want them to represent their own general. I've already created three more scripts in anticipation of this. one is logographic, and is similar in style to hindi, chinese, and hebrew, and it will be to kat noɬ what chinese is to any mon-khmer language. I plan on making certain mutually intelligent languages based off of this, i'm thinking of making this language for /#/. I have also created one for /wah/, which is to be unlearnable due to having unpronounceable consonants and vowels, it will look similar to hindi and will have lines and circles that descend from a horizontal line like tentacles. I have one for /infinity/, which will be made of entirely palindromes, with each letter having a horizontally flipped identical for this reason, and the language will be written aligned down the middle, the syntax for this one may be palindromic but i have decided that being intentionally unlearnable should be reserved for something eldritch like /wah/, so I may not do this.

>>20824356
The autism we dont deserve

>>20822521
Make a doc for suggestions or edits, maybe even one for each language. These could be included n the op and definitely should be included in the lore archive

>>20824356
I need to take the taxi back home from work because my knees just shattered

alright waging in the burger mines, added some revisions and will be back tomorrow
https://files.catbox.moe/syd7de.pdf

>>20825725
Lir ni siʒ mar li.

>>20824356
I kneel
What do you think of /morig/, /risu/, and /meat/?

>>20826637
/risu/ would just be based off indonesian im sure

>>20826637
NTA but /meat/ currently speaks Norse and Nahuatl. so I imagine if there's a common tongue, it would be like a creole of sorts, probably one based on Norse but with a lot of Nahuatl features sprinkled in.

>>20827078
The /meat/ anons are doing such a good job at /here/ that it makes me want to try watching their oshi...

>>20827149
Sadly our thread just got archived
Which is fortunately a better fate than getting sniped by meidos

>>20827149
>doing such a good job
Understatement really. Almost everyone at /meat/ had some kind of hivemind

LIVE

>>20820345
Is the land route slower than the sea route. Also how are brigands and bandits in the mainland?

>>20830789
the land route is fucking massive, it'd be a hell of a challenge to take chickens to /nasa/ from /kfp/

>>20831574
/nasa/ might have to secure another source of eggs then. If we're talking about a half year or year long trip with the possibility of most chickens dying then it might not be worth the land route. We were able to bring chickens to America via sea. So the sea route might be safer overall.

>/morig/ is Madagascar
Ah yes. Here we see a Deadbeat supremacist using a /here/ chuuba's power to end the world
https://youtu.be/Uwza8rHaPzw

>>20832262
the fact that Eren's final form is a skeleton just made it even more ironic!

>>20832262
>AoT
Animeonlys, don't look...

>>20832262
Hear me, worshippers of Hololive. My name is [REDACTED]. I'm addressing my fellow worshippers of the Hololive pantheon, speaking to you directly through the power of the Imageboard. Mount Mori on the island of Morigascar have crumbled to the ground and the legions of Reapers buried within have begun their march. My only goal... is to protect the lives of the people of Morigascar, the island where I was born. Right now, the nations of the world, even our fellow brothers in faith, are united in their desire to humiliate my people and it won't end with our island. They won't be satisfied until every last worshipper of Calliope Mori is titled a cuckbeat. I won't let them have their way. The Reapers of the Mountain will continue their march until every trace of life beyond our shores is sown to the Afterlife. And the people of Morigascar... are all that remains of VT.

>>20833309
Omega we know it's you, stop pretending.

>>20833467
>Omega stopped posting his shitty headcanons
>Around the same time the worldbuilding general began
Uhhhh...

>>20833309
>Morigascar
Dont you mean /morig/ascar?

>>20833309
Not wrong
>>20824916
I wonder if /morig/ getting an island is just a cosmic coincidence for them to be the Eldians of /vt/

>>20833518
unrelated, but that was such a missed opportunity with omega. The design was honestly great, shame it went to a manager.

>Mount Mori is made up of Reapers
FUCK! Ive seen this before!
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5140

>>20833955
Or this
https://bionicle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Mountain

Over the fall /nasa/ is going to stockpile on preserved food. We have our bakery in /who/ by then. So we'll be selling bread and wheat throughout the fall and winter. The summer harvest should also be done. So we'll have produce to sell locally as well. Whatever we don't sell or eat for ourselves goes straight to food processing to be canned, dried, and preserved.

Pine tar will be useful to seal the wood for the hen houses. We'll have "dough" insulation so the houses stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter. At the moment /nasa/ is looking to breed /who/'s dairy cattle with some high land cattle to create a dairy highland cattle. We're not sure how things will go, but we want to try. If we can't find any good mineral deposits then /nasa/ will have to turn to packaged food exports for money to buy steel, zinc, and aluminium. At least we have coal and shale for fast cash.

Page 9 bump.

>page 9 again this soon
Fuck yabs.

WHY IS THE BOARD FAST?!

/hag/ lore

>>20839000
Pls explain. I honestly only have this and /nasa/ as pinned tabs, i rarely if ever go to actual /vt/.

/risu/ is too warm for wild turkeys isn't it? Turkeys would be a great forest bird for both eggs and meat.

>>20840090
Don't worry, I'm sure you can find some in /mep/.

>>20840090
how about wild chickens? chickens like warm

How about something more... fantastic...
GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_bird

>>20840606
Chickens would thrive in /risu/'s forests as will ducks and geese. Implying there's no bird eating fish in the water.

>>20840816
Based, after the giant bald sloths of /morig/, the giant terror birds of /risu/. Superfauna for everyone!

>>20840816
>Elephant birds are members of the extinct ratite family Aepyornithidae, made up of large to enormous flightless birds that once lived on the island of Madagascar.
My god, how does this damn island keep popping up?

>>20841148
Are polar bears megafauna? If not, do you think I could make them megafauna?

>>20841148
Can north Holo continent have wooly mammoths? Though I understand this means dire wolves and sabertooths. Could also have tundra bison that are like bison but covered in hair like highland cows.

>>20841274
I'd say they basically are, but no one will complain if you make em even bigger. Do it rosebud.
>>20841339
We've got a lot of nations living up there, having food sources like mammoths and bisons would help with explaining how they fed themselves.

>>20841466
That's a big bear

>>20841466
I wonder if there's a way to domesticate mammoths to where they're as nice as Indian elephants at least.

>>20841148
>terror birds
Quite the opposite
Theyre just docile birds that got into extinction from overhunting

>>20841612
The problem isn't domesticating them, it's keeping them. An elephant can eat up to 150kg of food A DAY. scale that up a bit for a mammoth and you are probably looking at something like 200-250kg of food a day, for a single beast. Now, advanced countries like /who/ and /inf/ could most definitely afford to keep a few in zoos and such, but northern lands just wouldn't have that kind of infrastructure in place (specially if you are talking about domesticating entire herds). They would literally eat everything you have and then break their enclosure to go look for more food/water.

>>20842044
Then how do wild elephants support their daily calorie intakes?

>>20842044
Could you keep them by keeping grazing herds, so they're just eating as they would in nature, but you control them?

>>20841612
Technically speaking elephants aren't domesticated, they are tamed. Its a small difference but an important one.

>>20842096
by quite literally spending the majority of their day eating. they can spend up to 22 hours awake(normally, they can go up to 46 hours), and spend most of that eating and moving to the next food/water source.

If you guys want ideas for more fantastic but grounded animals, look for Spec-Evolution and Spec-Biology media
>After Man: A Future Zoology & The New Diosaurs by Dougal Dixon
>All Yesterdays, All Todays, All Tomorrows
>The Future Is Wild
>Subnautica
>Amphiterra
>Serina
>Expedition
Tfw we're now adding /an/ into the mix

>>20842141
Problem with that is just the amount of food they would consume. It is safe to assume the herd would be on the move nearly all the time, going for the next water reservoir while grazing on the way. That kind of lifestyle would be terrible for humans, since we tend to settle down at least semi regularly.

>>20842219
Domestication is not an option but taming might be. If mammoths still exist then they'll have to learn to live alongside humans. Also the mammoths would be devistating if they enter /nasa/'s farms. So killer electric fences are a must have. That said the mammoths might stick to the north rather than go to the south. The vegetation might naturally have more calories because chuubanite exists. So mammoths can live past ice age.

Also we'll have musk ox too. https://youtu.be/i8ZcNykA8vg

You think we can reach this level of autism?
https://fragmentsofthepast.dev9k.com/

>>20842384
obligatory not this anon
And if you really want to go deep into spec-evolution, see the following playlist. It's spectacular.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6xPxnYMQpquNuaEffJzjGjMsr6VktCYl

>>20842505
>Just 8 civilizations
We're already waaaaay ahead.

>>20842580
Yeah but
We're still getting there
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/rRkvbe

>>20842384
> All Tomorrows
Can we please not? pretty please? I know it's an interesting read, but the last thing we need is whatever is in there coming down to this planet.

>>20842713
What the fuck would the Qu be? CCP bots destroying the 4chan servers?

>>20842713
Obviously you dont take the 'aayyy invasion' part
Mostly the 'X race went wild with genetic engineering' trope
Maybe /uuu/ has alchemists and metabiologists using Vtubium to create weird creatures in their labs

I want to pet a Kirin in /uuu/'s forest.

>There is a civilization actively mixing magical elements to create weird wildlife
So, the Makuta?

Since /rrat/ has a complex subterranean society, here is a spec-evo project involving u8ndergorund life
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/conceptual_evolution/member-project-diyu-t3513.html

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/rRQ2DJ
>Map of a civilization
>With the pantheon member they worship
Cool concept

after looking through that worldbuilding project I realize how much we lacked in terms of visualization. I dont mean drawfag levels of art, just anything graphical to convey ideas easier
Like doing a table/chart influence map to easily describe the kind of direction youre going for
Collage photos and pictures of irl locations, animals, objects to give some context

Reminder
Do not be ashamed of using stupid names
Because we have plenty of places named after Victoria and Alexander, places called River River, Desert Desert, Mountain Mountain because of multiple languages, and the poles literally meant 'bear land' and 'no bear land'
If you wanna name a place 'what is this' in a fictional conlang, go ahead

>>20844291
I've never expected to write as much as I did for /nasa/. The thread likes what I'm doing so far. So I guess I need to find more visual aids for writing.

>>20844291
somehting like this?

>>20845211
No /risu/ feelsbadman

>>20845712
You cant fit hundreds of endings in it

>>20845824
understandable. hecc im surprised we werent put with /rose/ and /uuu/

>Start to get ideas on what to write next.
>Have to wait real time before I can write more.

Fucking hate /nasa/'s schedule. Anyway is there any interest in trade with /nasa/'s pre-packaged meals and dried food? The pre-packaged meals just need boiling water to cook.

>forcing yourself to a real-time scenario
You can just write some stuffs outside of it in the meantime
It's how /meat/ and /infinity/ do their lore
Real time for inter-thread diplomacy
Sandbox for general world writing

>>20848033
Ah! Would you like to officialize a trade deal with /morig/ for our excellent quality, carefully processed rice? You might also be interested by our rapeseed oil and wine, but I remember you asked about rice previously.
If you've figured out preservation, the dried meals will be perfect for the deadbeat navy.

>>20848490
>rapeseed oil
Please tell me thats a typo...

>>20848531
I didn't even make it up! It's great stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed

>>20848531
thats a real word. canola is also called rapeseed. no Ui references here

>>20848632
I wont be surprised if the Ui thread becomes the main exporter of rapeseed oil

>>20848531
>>20848586
It's a very popular crop for farmers around where I live. It's very pretty on a sunny spring day.

>>20848586
> the #mythrape was supposed to be a Hololive brand kitchen oil
It all makes sense now…

>>20848490
/nasfaqg/beat here, life hit me in the face when I was thinking about the investment. I'm glad that there's a more expanded repository of the island's resources, gives me more to work with.

Quick question - while you've talked about the /morig/ society in terms of warriors, how's the potential R&D looking? Academics, craftsmen, inventors and the like.

>>20848586
>Rapeseed (Brassica napus subsp. napus), also known as rape

Raping Ui mama with rape oil lube!

Since Ui thread currently doesnt exist, once the new map is finished we could make it a micro nation and place it somewhere in a climate perfect for making rape oil

>>20723676
>the fucking vtuber board has better worldbuilding than /tg/
I give up. Fuck this gay earth.

>>20849338
Hey anon. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
t. /tg/ lurker

>>20849338
KEKW

>>20849338
First time here?

>>20849382
Oh I plan on it. At least somebody on this fucking website has some creativity.
Godspeed you autistic bastards.

Did someone on /tg/ found out about us again?

Yeah. They did
>>>/tg/83839320

>>20848490
Food processing is one the the core facilities preserved in /nasa/. We plan to process whatever surplus of crops we can't eat into preserved food. The only thing we don't have yet is meat to dehydrate due to how lab grown meat is made. So our meals are vegetarian and tofu-based. The preserved meals last up to thirty years in ideal storage conditions. You'll probably snack of a few rations on the way back home. You are quite far out. As for rapeseed oil (I know what I did), it could be a luxury commodity here for salad dressings.

>>20849464
Since it's meant to be an exercise in worldbuilding and is based off the /vt/ threads themselves, neutral contributors are in short supply. There's only a handful of them at the moment, so any kind of input is welcome.

>>20849795
Somoetimes the most unexpected part of a community are the gaiden/off-tangent projects that turned the main centerpiece of the sub-culture into something different
Like hfz turning vtuber inspired characters into fighters
And now this project where we turned chuuba tribalism into literal tribes and religions

>>20848813
We really don't have much on the topic put down on paper, but based on our existing circumstances I see a few potential areas of note in this regard:
1. Naval engineering is huge. The deadbeats got to the island on boats, and haven't stopped sailing since then, as fishing has always been a staple in our diet.
2. Metallurgy. We have some iron, but a lot more of other metals such as copper and platinum group metals, so we had to get good at making non-Fe based metal alloys to fulfill all kinds of roles. In particular, our bronzeworking lets us make highly corrosion resistant mechanisms and armor suitable for use on the sea, while steel is reserved for applications where maximum hardness is desired, mainly cutting edges.
3. Aquaculture, particularly of shrimps.
4. Artillery engineering. That is a result of naval engineering, military academies and advanced bronzeworking intersecting; basically we have cannons, we're quite proud of them and we're constantly trying to improve them.

>>20849745
When you get back in space you'll need to keep the lads up there supplied, so getting started on a stockpile is definitely a good idea.

>>20850042
Naval Engineering, Metallurgy, and Artillery Engineering sound great, since they indicate a supply of engineers/mathematicians.

What about precision metallurgy/engineering? Creating larger machines to specifics, since I'd imagine this is what a /nasfaqg/ plutocrat would use for their personal analytical devices.

>>20849795
Only thing I could maybe offer is geology, but I'm not very far into my major so my help would likely be limited. One thing I'll say is there's a lot more orogen than I'm used to seeing, as a general rule the majority of land not along faults tends to be shield and platform more than anything else. Additionally, the bands of orogen tend to follow lines of tectonic uplift pretty closely, creating occasionally splotchy bands of orogen rather than splotchy areas. But I'm also used to looking at maps of the Earth and not intimately familiar with plate tectonics, so this might be a different case depending on your plates and the worldbuilding autist might have found something in his research I haven't.
If you need specifically volcanic advice that's the only other thing I could really offer, feel free to ask I suppose.

>>20850168
Well we always produced more food than we can eat. That's the marvel of space age technology. So naturally we preserve what we don't eat for long-term storage. Can't wait to see how we're going to make mammoth trunk jerky. Implying the mammoths aren't on the brink of extinction.

>>20850042
Question: what time period are we talking for this setting? I know a little bit about naval engineering and artillery, could maybe contribute if you all would like.

>>20850479
Well there's a tectonic analysis in the OP
maybe you could give your own feedback

>>20849338
Isn't it great? It's been a fantastic outlet for my speculative biology autism! Not to mention, we sometimes talk about one of my favorite things! WAR! Sometimes I really want to write a combat or war encounter, because MAN I LOVE VIOLENCE. GOD CAN YOU IMAGINE THE FEELING OF WAR? SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO KILL, FUCK.

>>20850567
Discovery age, with low fantasy-punk
IE using practical magic to have contemporary technology and concepts like a sailboat with a magic powered GPS, using telepathic magic material to make phones

>>20850744
worthy to note that no one has writen about magical GPS or magical phones yet though and I personally find the idea of both quite lame

>>20850833
It was some mundane examples I could think of

>>20850567
You guys wanna make a stock-analyzing antikythera or some crazy shit? I'm all here for it. Our sextant and telescope artisans may have relevant skills here, both instruments are musts for the far-reaching oceanic trips we do and require some precision fabrication. Maybe we could collab with /inf/ to get some gearing insights from them.

>we have tg-bros being more interested than our fellow /vt/ countrymen
Why...

>>20850479
Don't worry, our climate/tectonics autist isn't a geologist, just a scientist in another field who finds these things interesting. Your feedback would be amazing, since as a different scientist in a field different to the previous two I wasn't able to verify the tectonics document on its merits.
>>20850567
"1700's" in general, but the world has a bit of a "punk history" approach to accommodate different aesthetics and technology levels handwaiving realism when it comes to technological advantages. In the post you're replying to, I'm pretty sure /morig/ is roughly at 1700's and /nasfaqg/ (the foreign investor) roughly at 1850's in terms of naval/artillery design.

>>20851232
Meant for >>20850354

Oh shit
Bump limit

/nasa/ will have ration food for sale along with wheat grains, alcohol, and sugar at /who/'s port town. The ration food is a little pricy but well worth it.

>>20851232
I don't want to self-write too much but since /nasfaqg/'s plutocrats are based on actual people and I represent myself, I do a fair bit of market modelling/data analysis for the game. Big data crunch autism. So, perhaps mechanical computing or the like.

>>20851630
You can also make use of our canned goods, trusty and reliable.

>>20851706
Just use vtubium as computing chips
Like an electromechanical computer

>>20851706
Nice, pre-electricity computing is super fucking fun.

>>20851732
Hello /who/. Are you enjoying the bread we made so far?

>>20851873
That should be reserved for the actual trading bots in the game who have allegedly acquired sentience.

>>20852309
So /rbc/?

>>20852204
It's "bready" good, can't wait for /nasa/'s burger chain.

>>20852469
/rbc/ has would have those but traditionally referred as golems

>>20850479
>a lot more orogen than I'm used to seeing
Yeah, I think the geo anon who made the map made a similar comment about being concerned that he drew too many orogens.
So a rework, with your help could come in handy

>>20850744
If you guys want a rundown of naval combat tactics and ship construction of the era I'll give it to you in the next thread. Just let me know so I can verify my off-the-dome information beforehand.
>>20851443
I'll do what I can for the tectonics analysis. Initial impression is it looks pretty good besides the one thing I pointed out earlier. I'll have to really get into the different plates and how they interact if you want a thumbs up though so give it some time.

>>20852501
Does /who/ know how to make burgers? I think sandwiches with sliced deli meat would be an easier thing to make at this time. Making burgers means making meat grinders. Also storing hamburger meat will spoil faster than whole steaks without proper refrigeration.

>>20852838
Both would be really interesting. I'm gonna start writing a bit about our navy, so the first would be pretty relevant.

New bread?

>>20853561
Gotta ask /nasa/.

>>20853035
Fuck it, /who/ has burgers in the form of local stores in important cities, i'm going to look up more information to make it work

>>20853624
Oh hi.

>>20853672
As long as you can grind meat you can make hamburger. Burgers are hamburger steaks sandwiches. Anyone can make a sandwich as long as they have bread and fillings. You can also make meat balls with ground hamburger and pork for spaghetti. Does /who/ have a tomato crop?

>>20765368
Is there some disadvantage to being small in sized? We're a small community so it's almost fitting. Looking at our own planet, there are certainly geographically small countries, islands even, that bode well (great even) in the socioeconomic sphere.

>>20853946
>Tomato
I don't see why not, looks like they're berries too so that's fun

>>20854203
A small country cannot support as big a population or have as many resources, but that hasn't stopped factions like the Netherlands, Switzerland, the Venice city-state from being really influential and important. International relationships are strong stuff.

>>20854419
Japan also came to mind

>>20854203
I actually welcome it
We have so many big chonker countries we forgot small countries exist
You guys are around the size of an average Central America/Caribbean country

I hope that once the new map is out with realistic scale we'll have more small countries

>>20854468
Next to China it doesn't look so big, but Japan is actually relatively large, 3000 km from a side to the other.

>>20854468
>>20854419
/pyon/ island is probably around Honduras or Haiti size

>>20854419
Well you don't have to be a massive country to be resource rich, just resource diverse. Trade is probably going to be a necessity, or some form of economic niche.

>>20854346
A good old fashioned honker needs hamburger steak, buns, lettuce, tomato, onion, gerkins, and mustard sauce.

>>20854731
Since nobody else chimed in, I'd say that's a good size for us. Nobody seemed to take issue with it in the thread from what I recall.

Can someone on the known measure Infinity for me/us? I want to try to start proposing adding things to the map but I'm not sure about the scale of things.

>>20854946
Im glad youre okay with it
Having too many German/Poland/Texas sized countries throw power out of balance
>>20854994

>>20854994
This'll be more accurate to the map in the works, though /inf/'s latitude may vary a smidge. >>20730538

>>20855039
One thing occurred to me is that our small size is going to make labeling it on a map like that difficult.

>>20743886
>>20855174