/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

seething

>She gave her wife more attention than other people
big shock

>>20777400
Shut up nijisis

>>20777777
rent free

>>20777777
based sext

>>20777777
Disappointing get

she really likes moona also
>>20777777
based and checked

>>20777777
No.

>>20777777
Based get

>>20777400
Gura is scared of Pekora, whereas Pekora doesn't give a fuck about Gura, see how she reacted to Sharky stealing her stuff in Minecraft.

>>20777777
Based, fuck off Nijisis

>>20777777
Nijisisters...

>>20777777
BASED

>>20777777

>>20777777
Thoroughly observed

>>20778225
this is your fault and you know it aloucreep

>>20778204
>>20777400
The only thing she might be seething about gura would be her number of subscribers (and dead subs), Pekora mogs Gura in almost everything else.

>>20777777
If you keep talking to me like that I'm gonna-
OH GOD
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>20777777
The digits have spoken
Femoids please leave /vt/

>>20778326
>he thinks i didn't will it into existence on purpose

>>20777400
>praised her friend for her performance
Wow

>>20778340
>What are VOD numbers
>What are Membership numbers
>What are Twitter followers
>What are original song numbers
Gura is much bigger than Pekora, you fucking animal.

>>20778749
The issue is not that she praised Moona but that she completely ignored Gura while all other JPs talked about her performance.

>>20777400
I want to hatefuck peko.

I will cum inside her multiple times because she likes big numbers.

>>20778544
>he

>>20779146
show feet

>>20778953
So? It's not like she praised every member that performed and just completely isolated Gura.

>>20777400
>I heard
Stopped reading there

>>20778846
Sharky gets mogged by Pekora on Monthly views, and while the numbers leaked in November have shown Gura having 5+k more members than Pekora did, it's still much less than one would expect from a gap between a nearly 4M subs Vtuber and a 2M one. I agree with the other two points though. Pekora getting that much Twitter followers only by writing poems for the beginning of her streams and retweeting a few fanarts only once every week is still impressive nonetheless. Gura has the advantage of speaking the most spread language in the world (Japanese is only 14th IIRC) yet the gap between Gura and Pekora isn't that huge.

>>20777777
God wills it
Nippleniggers BTFO

>>20779546
>while the numbers leaked in November
Please spoonfeed me, what leaked numbers?

>>20779546
>Sharky gets mogged by Pekora on Monthly views
That's because Gura streams much less than Pekora.
>and while the numbers leaked in November have shown Gura having 5+k more members than Pekora did
Lol, now you're making things up my dude, literally no one knows exactly how many members each of them have but it's estimated Gura has at least 50k+, I doubt Pekora has more than that.
>yet the gap between Gura and Pekora isn't that huge.
It's not a huge gap, but it's not small either. In any case it contradicts your initial point of Pekora "mogging Gura in almosr everything else".

>>20780011
nah, Peker beat Gura on live views too

>>20777400
>I heard Pekora is a huge numberfag.
It's ncommon for people whose entire job is numbers to keep an eye on their numbers. It's actually a good thing. The only ones who hold this against her are people who hate her for whatever reason.
>Do you guys think she hates Gura for being the biggest Holo?
Whatever interactions she's had with Gura, like the Minecraft stuff, indicates her view of Gura is either positive at best or indifferent at worst.
>She barely ever mentions Gura at all
Why would she mention someone she never interacts with? Gura never mentions Pekora either.
>her "reaction" to the ENs and IDs at Holofest was basically just praising Moona and ignoring everyone else unlike the other JP Holos who called Gura cute.
Korone's reaction to the ENs and IDs was gushing about Risu the whole time and not mentioning any of the others beyond "the rest/the others" so you're already wrong about "the other JP Holos", you retard. Are you gonna make a schizo thread about Korone too? No you're not, because you're just a fucking schizo trying to incite nousagis and chumbuds to fight, which you've partially succeeded at. Kill yourself.

/#/ leaking its schizos again, holo vs holo shit is so retarded

>>20777777

>>20777777
I cry now

>>20779832
I don't want to waste my time searching for it through my non-sorted files now as it's nearly 2Am but there was a leak of a number of memberships for the YouTube channels having access to that, due to a massive fuck up from YouTube's part. Watame was the one with the best ratio Subs/Members/unique members chatting per stream, Gura was the one with the most memberships, and Pekora was at the second position for the two things I mentioned if I remember correctly.

>>20780011
Lmao 50k sure. last time the numbers were leaked she barely had 30+k, don't go make up some imaginary numbers cumtard.

>>20777777
So how come this actually brought up a bunch of Nijiniggers to the thread? Do they actively check up on Hololive drama threads?

>>20777777
Based

>>20780292
Pekora has more live viewers period. Gura literally beats her in everything else. Also Gura streams for a global audience which means people from several different timezones while Pekora streams for Japanese people who are all in one timezone.

>>20781036
What is "everything else"? The two big quantifiable metrics are subscribers and viewers.

>>20781228
VODs, subs, social media engagement, memberships, do I really have to repeat myself when I already posted them? Read the thread.

>>20780808
There are no fans of either company on this board; there are only antis false-flagging at each other as hard as they can.

>>20781228
probably dead subs and chat toxicity are also included on the "everything else"

>>20780438
small correction, pekora has in fact interacted more with gura than gura has with pekora.
pekora wished her good luck in mario kart on twitter after gura skillfully and patiently outplayed pekora but gura never replied. so if anything, op should have asked the opposite. but that would try to paint gura in a bad light instead of pekora so...here we are.
and yeah op is just trying to make people fight but they are too retarded to see it apparently

>>20781463
>vod
Peker beat Gura in here too
>social media engagement
Gura rarely interact on twitter or any form of social media
>membership
"revealed in my dream"

>>20777777
Actually based post

>>20777777
the fact they're responding with "rent free" and shit whilst still being in a holo themed thread says enough

>>20778204
Problem with that interaction is that Gura stole shit she didn't even know existed, Gura should've aimed higher but ultimately she wanted to prove loyalty to Aqua

HEY MOONA

>>20781718
>Peker beat Gura in here too
Nope, a quick look on both of their channels right now will show you otherwise.
>Gura rarely interact on twitter or any form of social media.
Media engagement goes beyond that, she has the most likes and reach on social media which leads to publicity for Hololive itself.
>"revealed in my dream"
Do you have Pekora's membership? We can compare their views for member's videos right now if you want.

>>20782087
>he doesn't know
>he has no memberships

>>20781036
>>20781463
>Gura literally beats her in everything else
>conveniently leaves out superchats
Pekora has made $2.1m in superchats, Gura has made $951k.

>Pekora talked about Moona and not about the blue shark
>The bait actually works

How the fuck is this place so garbage

>>20780808
People can check gets elsewhere, you know that right?
Someone just has to type >>20777777 out of curiosity to get here.

>>20782527
people are retarded and this place is full of number fags so drama baiting with the two biggest holos in two different branches makes people seethe.

>>20782527
don't ask me, I'm not a nousagi's but when I state the truth about Pekora beat Gura, chumshart just leap to the bait(that isn't really a bait)

>>20782685
Learn english, seanigger.

>>20782874
no, you learn SEAish

>>20782180
I forgot about that detail. But the likes per post are still visible, so go on and post them will ya?

>>20782874
Everything in that post is fine English, what the fuck do you mean?
Are you so new you don't know what a "get" is or something?

Don't use my rabbit oshi to shitpost

>>20783357
seethe more, holofags

>>20783106
Using likes on community member posts isn't a good metric. I'm only a member on Peko & Mari's channels, and going by that you'd think Marine has twice as many members as Pekora. And you also can't use likes on member only streams because in some cases those start out public, accumulate likes from non-members, then go member-only as the stream starts.

>>20783570
>SEAhour
>actually EOP hour
NGMI

>>20777400
Gura is streaming right now and she mentioned literally everyone end what she loved about their performance, regardless of subs

Based shark

>>20781802
Because it's samefagging/falseflagging. I didn't even have to open the thread to know one of the first five posts would be accusing OP of being a nijifag. This thread is disappointingly predictable.

>>20782508
Pekora = $2,191,254 / 911 videos = $2,405.33 average per vid
Gura = $951,003 / 316 videos = $3,009.50 average per vid
so whats your point again?

>>20779546
Pekora streams 5x more than gura in a week and barely manages to get the upper hand in some metrics. The shark goes at her own pace, and that’s perfectly fine. I should bring up you mention “dead subs” but for big holo events gura moggs pekora every time, has a higher vod average, sells her merch faster than pekora ever did, etc. all while hardly streaming kek

>>20783982
No, the rent free post wasn't samefagging
Someone said they wanted the 777777 get in the NijiEN thread for some reason, and then someone else checked who got it when it was passed. Pretty sure that reply came from there.
The fact that it was a """niji anti""" post is just a funny coincidence.

>>20777777
Based

>>20777777
checked and witnessed.

>>20784456
Pekora has earned more superchat money than Gura. What was your point?

>>20784529
then get you feesh to work, Pekora got those numbers because of her hard work, not just because her models

>>20784456
Pekora = $2,191,254 / 978 days since debut = $2240.55/day
Gura = $951,003 / 554 days since debut = $1716.61/day

Her being lazy and not streaming isn't a gotcha.

>>20784682
my point is that your number is meaningless when you factor out that pekora has been streaming for a very long time. the more relevant measurement is to take it by average

>>20784821
Sounds like cope to me. Gura being lazy isn't an argument. The facts are that Pekora has earned more superchat money than Gura. Take the L.

>>20783982
W2cope

>>20784632
I fucking love this edit.

>>20784870
Seethe cumbud. She puts in the effort and gets higher numbers where it matters in CCV & hours watched, not empty subs.

>>20784821
cope, it's the sum that's count, cuz hard work pays off sometimes

>>20777777

>>20777777
Based

>>20784870
His point is she’s barely ahead in some metrics despite gura being lazy lmao Jesus nousagi are this retarded huh

>>20784806
>>20784870
>>20784954
so you admit that if only gura werent being nice by intentionally nerfing herself, gura would get higher numbers assuming equal effort? i see

>>20785165
still, Pekora beat her in the end

>>20777400
>I heard Pekora is a huge numberfag.
you read too much /vt/ and/or /jp/

>>20785165
No it isn't. Not only are you retarded but you lack reading comprehension too. The argument was literally about superchat numbers, not the rest. Take a break ESL.

>>20785240
Yes, I do admit that. But, as things stand, that's not how things are.

>>20777777
Wow it really feels like an all out war out here for real for real. my fins are shaking and crying as we speak

>>20785240
> Gura would get bla bla bla if obly bla bla bla
then just do it, what's with the"IF scenarios"? is it because you guys can't provide factual proof?

>>20785240
Yes, I do admit that. If Gura streamed regularly, like Pekora, she'd probably beat her in every category. That's not how things are in reality though.

>>20785514
Fair enough

>>20785512
the proof is the numbers, are you retarded
>>20785514
>admitting gura is potentially better than pekora
thats enough for me

>>20785698
and Pekora beat her on that

>>20785514
Why can’t chumbies and nous ahi get along? The real enemies are the nijifaggots.

Pekora hates Gura. She's happy that every day she can bury the shark under her heel, and is satisfied that the shark will never reach the same success she has achieved. Sub numbers are nothing, subs can abandon you. or worse, actually bots. CCV is the true metric of popularity and Pekora mogs shark in every aspect of popularity. Pekora is very pleased with this, and she hopes that Gura will forever the shitter that she is. Pekora will always make her fans happy, she'll forever be the star of Hololive, and everyone will be happy for Pekora. Can't say the same for a pretentious EN whelp, I hope she dies in a fire.

>>20786029
A rivalry as old as time.

>>20786029
cope harder holofags

>>20786250
Too obvious

>>20786250
>gura chosen for the beautiful life size figure in the middle of a majestic spotlight and red carpet

Why didn’t he choose his top idol nousagi bros?

>>20777400
>last summer
>minecraft festival ending
>prime opportunity for cute interactions to spawn new friendships, memories, future collabos
>gura says bye to everyone
>pekora: hey gura, come on and join us for a small group photo
>quantum anomaly autocorrects it to 'YAGURA KAMON'
>gura acknowledges the possibility peko is talking to her and would feel bad leaving and ignoring her, but if she stayed and peko wasn't talking to her, she'd be forever branded a 'ME ME ME' attention whore
>gura ultimately leaves
>pain peko
it all could have been avoided

>>20786029
They're just being tsunderes. Gura and Pekora are both powerhouses that help Hololive thrive.

I unironically think Pekora wanted to get close to Gura. Her interest in the EN server during the Minecraft was mostly due to that. Why? Because the reason she got interested in the EN server was right after Gura wrote a message to her talking about borrowing some diamonds or stuff like that and also Pekora mentioned watching a clip of Gura being scared of Pekora in the EN server, right after that she had a collab with Kiara where Kiara showed her the server and then she played there for a couple of streams. I think she wanted to interact with Gura, but Gura is so dense she didn't realize and didn't bother logging into the server when Pekora was online.

>>20777777
Very large number

>>20786583
One time thing. Cover will see how much Gura is reclining everyday, and they'll realize they should've made a Pekora statue instead of shark. Hell, I bet a Pekora statue would sell for a lot more than a shart statue. Nousagis are wealthier and more dedicated than poor chumchildren and basement chumpedos.

>>20786626
Fucking retard, that was a commemorative photo of all of the Usaken members, Gura had no right to come with them during that moment.

>>20785025
I'm not trying to be hateful here but this webm would be so much better if it didn't suddenly turn into a smash bros reference

>>20786856
Gura is honorary Usaken though.

>>20786735
nah, they hate each other

>>20786849
Cope & seethe kek

>>20786849
if they make a Pekora statue, the bidder would just be Japanese, that's mean only Yen, they need bigger currencies, so they go with their international pick, Gura.

it's kinda surprising Pekora could beat Gura with only Japanese audience

>>20786250
>CCV is the true metric of popularity
>He doesn't know about Susan's magic

>>20787146
The bidder will probably be Japanse anyway.

>>20786869
Tell that to the guy who made it. Seems like he just slapped on Moona and Kiara to the already existing Korone one. Still pretty good tho.

>>20787200
SUSAAAAAAAAN

Pekora congratulated Gura on Twitter for whipping her ass in Mario kart and Gura didn’t even respond lmao

Is anyone surprised that Pekora is seething about getting absolutely destroyed by Gura? Really? She has always been a huge narcissist and a straight up bitch to everyone around her, of course she's fucking seething.

>>20786626
your japanese sucks did you know that.

>>20787928
Nijinigger.

>>20787928
Trying too hard.

>>20787206
but the chance is higher now, since most of the western rich are pedophile

>>20787656
She didn't even @ Gura on her tweet though.

>>20787928
Why are cumtards like this?

>>20788712

>>20788712
>>20788828
That shit is ancient though and it was all started by Gura, never by Peko.

blue women don't need to constantly leech of each other to be great. That's for inferior pink or blonde women

>>20789019
So?

>>20777777
how will they recover?

>>20777777
Based

>>20789453
They hate each other, while Pekora try to ignore Gura, Gura try to impress everyone else by replying to her so nobody would accuse she's the bad one

>>20789716
n-naruhodo

>>20789716

>>20789855

>>20789227
both of them are blue tho

>>20789716
based shark

>>20777400
Oh no no kiara don't look

>>20783106
>likes per post
Holy shit is this what shitters do?

>>20780011
>That's because Gura streams much less than Pekora.
Makes no sense. Pekoras average voews are higher and usually that shit is hogher if you stream less, see Marine. Pekora would have even bigger average if shed stream less
Pekora clearly has more viewers on her streams

>>20794861
Gura has more VOD views than Pekora, dude...

>>20792003
exactly

>>20789716
nice, let's ignore the mario cart tweet, clips and wholesome fanart pekora liked

if anything Pekora loves Gura because she would've related to her in a lot of things by now (hating the incompetent Cover, being the face, cheated during summer fes, wan't streaming on christmas eve, etc...)

>>20777777
OHNONONONONONO NIPPLESISTERS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>20795553
>More VOD views
>Streams basically 1/4 the amount or less
>Only get about 50% more avg VOD views
Nah Pekora is more popular than the shark because she can't quadruple her views even when she streams 4x less hours

>>20795761
>replying to the cheapest of bait available
NGMI

>>20795864
>tl;dr
Gura has more VOD views than Pekora

>>20795864
this is when Pekora stream less btw, by pretty much the same amount as Gura
>>20794861
>see Marine
Marine puts out many shorts

>>20796141
Holy fucking shit she’s still growing that fast??

>>20777777
Nijiniggers out. The digits compel you.

>>20796141
Can you stop using retarded sites that arent tracking streams spefically?

>>20795553
Who the fuck gives a flying fuck about VOD views? That just means people opened the freaking vod instead of watching the stream and it doesnt mean anyone actually watched the vod entirely

>>20802771
then you are a dumb numberfag and not worth talking with. this isn't Twitch where you can play a lot of ads while streaming. pic relacted.

>>20777777
Checked and based

>>20780727
>there was a leak of a number of memberships for the YouTube channels having access to that, due to a massive fuck up from YouTube's part
That data was just public chat analytics.
Don't start spreading fan fiction to fill in the gaps you retarded EOP mongoloid

>>20777400
Pekora hates Mori, not Gura. The sub gap is too big now that the seeth is already gone. On the other hand, Gura loves high performing Holos like Peko since she is clearly too lazy to carry the brand by herself.