/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's over.

Hey that's me!

>>20763935
He lost me when he started pretending Calli's other music was good.

>>20763935
No! This can't be happening!!

>>20763935
I agree with everything but the implication that she has ever released a good track, not just "good for a vtuber" good, but actual good

>>20763935
>after the incredibly promising and well-crafted ep your mori
dropped

>>20763935
I haven't listened to it yet aside from unalive and q. Those two songs definitely sounded more like generic animu openings so I'm inclined to believe that this review might be what I end up thinking of the album as a whole. I liked the cringe rap stuff she debuted with, it's a shame she's been going hard into the indistinguishable weeb shit lately.

I just can't anti this bitch after hearing her cry over Kiara's performance. My hate has been destroyed by love.

>>20763935
Deadbeats... we didn't get the huge W... we took a huge L instead...

Yeah it's not very good. It's not cohesive and sounds more like a slapped together thing that was rushed out. There's nothing on it that measures up to her best work. Hopefully the next one is better.

>>20764152
pepehands sadge

>>20763935
He's right.
It's absolutely generic fucking soulless idolshit jpop.

It's an "experiment" I guess since Mori recently has been on this copium-fueled "I really do love idols trust me" arc. I can only hope it's the last time we see this shit. Some of the songs are alright even but nothing compared to her rap (yes it's good).

An ENTIRE ALBUM wasted on this trash, seriously. An entire fucking album. We could have gotten another Your Mori.
I'm fucking mad actually.

>>20764172
>sounds more like a slapped together thing that was rushed out
that's most of her music

>>20763935
>review
>entertainment
Who cares

>>20764220
Go back.

>>20763935
We're doing that now ? Taking reviews from literal whos as treating it like it's the opinion of someone that matters ? I guess everything is good to shit on Mori with you fleshbags

>>20764132
okay cuckbeat

>>20764425
>he doesn't even know famous rap critic Leolox, the destroyer of careers

>>20764425
Or you could listen to the album. It's definetly not good compared to her previous EP.

>>20764063
>good for a vtuber
This compliment is one that must cut Mori the deepest.

>>20764425
embarrassing post
this better be a false flag

>>20763935
Literally who?

Guys, she's been going through a lot these past couple of months. That's why her music isn't as great as expected. The falling out with Kiara? The Connor kerfuffle? The Lean dilemma? The Rushia drama? Preparing for Holofes? It's all taken a toll on her a lot and it's clearly reflected in her music. It's very unfortunate but it has to be said that her bad days are behind her. She's going to make better music, I promise you.

>>20764437
Kek

>>20763935
Wait hololive albums actually get reviews? lmao I always thought it was something that stayed in the fanbase

>>20764552
I listened to it twice. It's definitely a wild ride. If I didn't watch her announcement stream where she warned about it being all over the place with different style for each songs, I would also've been "wtf is that".
I want to listen to it more, but as of for now I'd say it's better than Deadbeats but still worst than Your Mori.

I listened to Huge W and I wished I killed myself 3 minutes earlier. what is the appeal of that song?

>>20764588
Yes it is a false flag anon. Now fuck off.

>Mori states she no longer hates idols
>Says she loves hololive
>Makes idol songs now
I can't believe it... Has she finally seen the light?

>>20764781
It's a Huge W against her antis and haters. Calli is clearly celebrating her victory.

>>20764088
>I liked the cringe rap stuff she debuted with
I'm glad I'm not the only one! I always thought she had only one really shiity track and it was "Dead Beats". I was actually mildly disappointed she did "Red" instead of RIP at 3rd fest, but I can understand why.

>>20764821
she's still in damage control mode after the lean yab and it's been what, a month?

>>20764847
This album is a huge w for her anti

>>20763935
I was wondering when the rateyourmusic screencap threads would start rolling in

>>20764425
Holy shit dude, how don't you know leolox?

mori on suicide watch

>>20763935
But how will Calli ever recover from this? She'd better graduate asap

>>20764781
I dunno I just assumed shes singing about a huge Whopper from Burger King.

>>20764821
Faux imagery.
But it's genuinely concerning how this bitch took 1 year and a half in Hololive and still thought Idol stuff was fake and superficial despite being in Holo for so long.
Truly sad

>>20765316
>how this bitch took 1 year and a half in Hololive
Anon, her tweet literally says "before joint Hololive". She never said it took until the moment she tweeted that to change her mind. If you want to twist the narrative, at least don't do it like a retard

>>20764255
>that's most of her music
that's all her music

>>20763935
Isn't the fact that negroes don't like her music a step up? Some person growth?

>>20764662
I thought Lean was supposed to improve your music?

>>20766530
not when she's supposedly making negro music

>>20763935
I never waste time reading reviews of movies/books/music. Especially the latter since I can tell whether or not I like a 4min track, the fuck care what some fag out there thinks.
Not a defence of mori the anituber anti defender, but who the fuck would take the word some of nog to heart, especially one that bothers to type out a review vtuber music of all things and mori's at that.
Fags all into the trash they go.

>>20763935
I just want Fantano to give her a 0 and see all the cuckbeats cry. Once professional critics start giving her the time of day and rightfully shit on her you'll see a real change in tone from deadbeats.

isn't music taste subjective?

>>20765112
Am I supposed to?

>>20767715
>If they don't
>MUH POP MUSIC

>>20767715
>(((professional critics)))
>of pop music
>of vtuber pop music
who cares

>>20766627
We didn't drink Lean, maybe that's why

>>20763935
>Hololive V-Tuber Mori Calliope "surprises" us b y making everything I would never have wanted on her debut record
This shift from making an objective statement into a subjective one is really nice. Her new roommate EP was better

>>20763935
>/mu/ critics
Okay

>>20768633
*sips muh lean* am i gangster rapper god now?

>>20764220
Go back.

>>20767538
You're right all reviews are trash. Its best to come to your own opinions.
People who read reviews need their opinion spoon fed to them

>>20767715
I think Fantano would unironically dig some of Mori's songs

>>20767876
In every artistic field, there is an objective quality and a subjective quality. The objective quality is usually something that can be measured by how much effort and work was put into the art, and how clearly-defined the work's "message" and its expression is. These are things that trained professionals in those fields can discern, and what sets them (and allegedly, their opinions) apart from the common consumer. The subjective quality is usually the "I don't like expression via rap" or "to deliver this message I would have personally gone with X instead of Y" sort of feedback.
There is a "wrong" way to do art, and an actual artist giving a genuine critique of a work as being "soulless", "uninspired", or "lacking in message" is something that any aspiring artist should take seriously, which is why random fucks on the internet that don't know what they're talking about use these phrases all the time, robbing them of their meaning.

All forms of art, from music to prose to animation to fucking memes, are about expression. If you do not express anything, the work is meaningless.

>>20764088
>>20764850
>I liked the cringe rap stuff she debuted with
Most people did.

>>20763935
On one hand I don't like her stuff and I'm glad to see people not liking her stuff.
On the other hand the reason this guy doesn't like her new stuff is because it's not like her old stuff which I hated

>RateYourMusic

neck yourself

>>20766627
That’s weed

>>20769022
Nice marxist "objective quality"

>>20763935

>>20768947
yeah i think he'd give it a soft 6 before giving her his soft 6

>>20765316
>"before joining Hololive"

Anon...your reps...

>>20763935
he is correct, scuffed up age is the best song

I hate to say it but I kind of agree so far
I have no idea why she dropped her signature style and went towards jpop

>>20766530
>>20766719
Negroes react positively to her music on YouTube

>>20769022
>objective quality
>yeah man this arrangement of different feces was done in a very tasteful and professional manner
stfu nerd

>>20764821
The globo holo brainwashing is working

>>20764425
>not knowing who leolox is
have you been living under a rock or something

>>20770159
HAHAHAHAHA

>>20770290
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Leolox

work on your music reps bro

>>20764588
It's cringe but it's lowkey true

>>20770728
Ok? Who? Why should we care about this random fag. Just looks like a no life reviewer

>>20769022
Every criterion for judging art and everything critics say can be boiled down to either "I (don't) like this" or "I think this will be (un)popular with [group of people]"; there's nothing more to it than that.
Hitting notes, having a catchy melody, bringing across a message and all these things are secondary factors influencing the deciding factor: People liking or disliking something. Critics are entirely dependant on intersubjectivity, on people agreeing with them; they have no objective leg to stand on.

>dont know every detail of every little thing? heh do your reps, dont expect to be spoonfed

>>20771247
He will be the one to finally end Mori's career

>>20772908
>Hitting notes, having a catchy melody, bringing across a message and all these things are secondary factors influencing the deciding factor: People liking or disliking something
Those factors are some of the reasons for people liking or disliking something, even if you yourself don't know exactly why you like some music doesn't mean that those factors have nothing to do with why you like something. Also are you going to tell me that shit like umisea isn't objectively bad? And that shit song still had a ton of praise

>>20773830
I bet you don't even listen to kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdsHa85srFw

>>20768034
If you want mori to be more than just a basic white girl trying to do rap then yes.

>>20769209
You know, I was about to dismiss your post until I remembered how my aunt used to harp about "neither objective nor subjective conditions are in place for a revolution in this godforsaken country".

Where can you find these in depth review of album, can someone point me to the site of the image?

>>20769338
Gura even said that before it came out

>>20773397
What career?

>>20774327
Then explain who the fuck he is lol. So far it seems like its a random ass with no claim to fame. He can't out SEO a fucking furniture company with his name

deadbeats on suicide watch, pretending they don't know who leolox is

>>20765112
>>20770159
Not that anon, but I haven't gone out of my way to listen to rap since the mid-90s, and I haven't cared about an album since the mid 2010s. Why would anyone who isn't an audiofile know who this is?

Regardless, this sounds like a measured and reasonable critique. Don't have to be famous to be right, cuckbraps.

>>20763935
Review-bombing doesn't work when the content is both good and has a strong core audience.

Has anyone ever asked her "Why did you join Hololive if you didn't like idols?"

>>20775333
Not hard to pretend when he's a no name. You literally can't answer who he is so you just continue to bait.

>>20776438
it was jork, but then she realized how much of a golden ticket it was and stabbed her friend right in the back, claiming the slot

>>20775008
rate your music

Ngl its kinds right.
never rewlly thought her music was good its judt kind of cringe desu

I thought this was a fanfiction by the layout of the site at first

>>20774275
kek

>>20763935
Another spot-on take from Leolox. I always check this guy's reviews out before I purchase a rap cd.

>>20763935
WHO?

>>20764821
Work for corpo long enough and even death can sell her soul to the devil

>>20773397

>>20764860
No one cares about muh lean outside of this board, should've said connor drama if you wanted an actual yab.

I agree with what he says but who the hell is this nigger supposed to be?

>>20764588
>>20765112
>>20770159
>>20774327
No I didn't know him, and I don't care about him. I don't care about your garbage rap"culture" or about rap music outside of Mori's.
Critics are losers anyway, they can't create, the only thing they can do is complain.
The album was fantastic btw.

These are the music critics I know of:
>There was a famous anti-Wagner pro Brahms critic, I read about him in the wikipedia article about the war of the romantics. I forgot his name.
>The black youtuber that makes reviews of videogame music, specially Persona 5 music
>Rick beato
>8bit theory
That's it. I have never heard of this Leolox guy and I have never read the review of any music album or any music song.

>>20779238
You didn't have to type all that just to say you're retarded, we could tell with the first sentence.

>>20763935
This man speaks the truth.

>>20763935
>screenshot your own comment
>post on 4chinz
>farm (You)s
it's all so tiresome

>>20764005
Her debut song was undeniably a banger. Everything else sucked

>>20763935
>leolox
>a literal who?

>ignore bait threads
>ignore shitpost threads
>ignore 'seanigs reeee' threads
>ignore 'your oshi graduating' threads
>ignore 'your oshi can't dance/sing' threads

Fuck redditors
Fuck tourists
Fuck trannies
But most of all fuck jannies

Holy shit the fucking retards in this thread are mind blowing

>>20771247
He knows what he's talking about

>>20782175
Really doubt leolox comes here but that would be awesome to have somebody famous here

I like Mori's rap and she's pretty good at saying words fast but I much prefer her rock songs. Her voice fits way more with rock music. Fuck that guy.

>>20782604
how does it feel to suck your own cock, leolox?

>>20782604
Lmao. Okay, you baited me with that. Faggot.

>>20765112
>>20770159
Is this seriously how reddit this site has become? You fags are lucky enough to have this eceleb board for vtubers, don't go acting like your literally who's in a sea of ecelebs matter.

>>20766530
I've never liked her music except for live again.

>>20782604
"famous"

>>20775333
I honestly don’t. I want my fantano review

never thought i'd see leolox on here

I stopped listening to Leolox after he gave the MGR soundtrack a 4/5. He's a fucking idiot.

>>20784779
>MGReddit
>4/5
Zoomers will hype up anything loud with action. Le rules of nature!!! xD

>>20768947
That would honestly be worse.

>>20763935
blame IRyS and Cover, they made her want to pump out more trash in a short period of time (jealousy?)

>>20765530
>joint

is that actually Leolox?

>>20764172
>Yeah it's not very good. It's not cohesive and sounds more like a slapped together thing that was rushed out.
That's because she's releasing a new rap album on her old/personal account/name soon.

>>20763935
It's been a year and 2views are still seething over "Off With Your Head" kek

Camellia hard carrying this album. Too bad even he can't make electroswing sound good.

>>20787714
Sorry for not doing my reps, but please tell me this is true.

>>20782472
cuckbeats can't meme

>>20784779
He should've rated it lower

>>20785230
For deadbeats? Or for /here/?

>>20763935
I don't care opinion from nigger

>>20788565
I don't care opinion from ESL

>>20779825
pretty good bait

>>20788565
based
>>20788619
no basado negro

Monkey mumbling over boomdaboomdaboom loops isn't music. Go fuck yourself.

>watches an anime girl streamer
>’wtf why does her music sound like anime songs’

>>20767715
fagtano is a political grifter now
he will give her a 9 once he learns she has made a pro-trans song

>>20791718
Anime song doesn't mean japanese song retardchama

>>20763935
You know its over when leolox himself shits on your album, kek

Let’s see Scaruffi‘s review

>>20788565
you do realize that's not his actual face right. it's mc ride from death grip

>>20792204
>he's reviewed all of Camellia's albums
There is actually a non-zero chance of this happening

>>20763935
I guess you could say that dead on arrival was... dead on arrival

>>20766530
It is for me, but I always liked her voice and always hated nigger music, so Calliope's idol arc has been fucking great for me.

>>20786523
Its this twitter?

Not everyone can be as good as towa

>>20763935
can't believe some jagoff on the internet has an opinion. that's never happened before

>>20796724
The OP review is literally shitting on Mori for having too much music in her album instead of nigger mumbling. This is exactly the kind of person who'd hate Towa's singing for not being 'fresh' enough.

True, her new music is just bland and super generic. Soulless.
>>20763935
>>20764220
Based and redpilled.
>>20764821
>>20766530
>>20796587
Cringe and bluepilled.

>>20764220
>>20800415

What did we just say
>>20768861

>>20763935
based

>>20763935
>Mori
>Promising
>Stopped reading after the first sentence

Literal who?

>>20767715
Literally who is this faggot and why do people care about his opinion? Ive seen his name thrown around by twitter tourists for a couple of years now, and when i googled him a fucking prototypical irl soijak faggot appeared on my screen.

>>20769629
So you just let everyone here know that you didn’t understand any of what you read. Did you even realize that this reply would reveal that you literally didn’t understand what they wrote?