/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Ah, peace

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>107,226: Hololive (Hololive)
>78,219: Hololive (Hololive)
>47,194: Ponto Nei (Nijisanji)
>45,295: Amagase Muyu (Nijisanji)
>41,472: Riri (Nijisanji)
>40,040: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>39,766: Toya (Nijisanji)
>39,741: Umise Yotsuha (Nijisanji)
>27,582: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,489: Marine (Hololive)
>25,145: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>22,086: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,691: Lui (Hololive)
>19,183: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,118: Holostars (Hololive)
>15,249: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,816: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,140: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,944: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,747: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,187: Watame (Hololive)
>10,571: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,460: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,403: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,364: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,278: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
>10,275: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

AHAHHAHA HOLOBRONIES??

Friendly reminder that Apex is a free game.

Polka (good)

>>20683007

>>20683462

lain... i kneel...

>>20682702

>>20683213
finally a good post in this god forsaken thread

(Repeating from prev thread to set myself up for the followup)
Adding other companies still not ready and the thread is slow enough, here is the usual ranking

* Median of peak CCV per streamer with at least 5 streams, March 2022 (until the 20th) *
Only channels with *4* or more streams were considered for this ranking.

Ten comments
1) The month is being led by Hololive main account, understandable considering four high profile streams in the past 2 days
2) Pekora follows on #2, the highest median for the individual channels
3) Kuzuha leads the Nijisanji pack, being #5 overall and the only Niji in the top 10
4) Hololive has 31 channels in the top 50, 9 of them being from the EN branch. Nijisanji has 19, with 3 EN
5) 25 channels have a 10k+ median, with 19 of them being from Hololive and 6 being from Nijisanji
6) Vox and Mysta, from NijiEN, are keeping a 10k+ median so far this month
7) Luca, from NijiEN, makes his debut on the top 50
8) Peko, Miko, Subaru, Suisei and Kuzuha are the individual channels over 20k
9) IRyS inclined to 8k+, from under 7k in february

and the punchline
10) The whole EN field seems to have inclined this month so far.

(full table to follow in half an hour or so)

>>20683692
>She will squander this chance because she likes a smaller chat
There's nothing you can do anon!
Only the treerat can save herself.

>>20682702
>47,194: Ponto Nei (Nijisanji)
>45,295: Amagase Muyu (Nijisanji)
>39,741: Umise Yotsuha (Nijisanji)
I don't know if this is good, meh, or an embarrassment.

>You're still young, that's your fault
>There's so much you have to go through
>I was once like you are now
>And I know that it's not easy

>But take your time, think a lot
>Why, think of everything you've got
>For you will still be here tomorrow
>But your dreams may not

>less than $3k SC and 9k CCV for a 4 fucking hour ASMR stream
Is it safe to say yet that Vox is reclining?

>>20684000
Meh I would say. Worse than the previous wave, but not so low as to be embarrassing.

>>20684000
honestly depends on your frame of reference, it's better than the last only female wave, but way worse than edengumi, but then again they're vta graduates so they're technically known, but then again no one watched vta
so who knows

>>20684258
Nijisanji is in shambles.

>>20683007
Doesn't matter if his consistent CCV is 4 digits.

>>20684258
holo thriving

>>20684313
i would have put "first vta graduates" as a buff but honestly i am not that sure anymore

>>20684258
It was literally just him playing smash. No BFE or anything. Its not surprising.

>>20683971
I don't follow risu, what's with her lack of streaming ? Real life shit? What is her goal?

>>20684000
Embarrassment, they unperformed. Nijisanji bought ads for the them.
Their article and twitter engagements are also high, indicating 70k audience, but they got less than 50k.
Nijisanji brand is overvalued.

>>20684409

>playing smash BUT ASMR

lol he knows no one would watch if it was just the game...

>>20684000
Bad, bordering on embarrassing if this was a real Niji wave. However it being their academy people and also almost intentionally sabotaged by going against the Holo concert I would give it a pass to just "meh". If the next real wave after Edengumi gets this they would be rightfully clowned on. Holo ID will easily beat this.

>>20683893
Now, for the full table, here are 10 more comments

1) 2k not longer puts you in the top 100
2) With Choco, Aki and Mel recent inclines Sora is the lowest ranked HoloJP girl with a 2.8k median
3) Ollie is the highest ranked "minor branch" streamer with a 1.7k median
4) Roberu, the highest ranked Holostars, has a 1.2k+ median and outranks 22 Nijisanji streamers
5) Iofi is the only Hololive girl with an under 1k median so far this month
6) Aruran no longer is the lowest ranked Hololive Productions streamer, having inclined this median to 467 thanks to Elden Ring
7) Selen is the highest ranked NijiEN girl with a 3.2k median. She still wouldn't outrank Sana, whose current median would be over 6k if she had the required number of streams to be in this ranking
8) Reimu is the only NijiEN still under 1k median
9) Mika Melatika is the highest ranked NijiID with 1.2k+ median, thanks to her presence alongside NijiEN boys and girls

And the punchline
10) Nari Yang (quite literally who?) from Niji KR is the highest ranked Nijisanji minor branch streamer with almost a 1.3k median on 16.

Anyone knows who this girl is and WTF is she doing?

>>20684489
Poorfag desu puRisu ayundastand

>>20684523
I unironically think he got the same views as he would if he didn't put ASMR in the title and just played smash like a normal person.

>>20684000
Isn't this lower than the 2k shitters from Noctyx got? That;s just fucking wrong. Doomed from the start.

>>20684542
>if this was a real Niji wave
There is no indication this is *not* a real wave. Is there any caveat made in their debuts that says
>hey, these are not real Nijisanji streamers

>>20684489
Iirc, and this is based solely on what some Anons here have strongly hinted at based off of some members posts, she had to deal with legal garbage WRT family in 2021 that royally fucked up her abilities to stream regularly. Outside of that, Risu just doesn't like having to try to deal with a larger chat that she can't interact with meaningfully.

>>20684551
>Anyone knows who this girl is and WTF is she doing?
Bora 2.0, speaks good JP and plays a lot of FPS

>>20684551
>hajime still at the bottom of nijijp
heh

>>20683007

>>20684551
NijiKR and NijiID will be gone next month.
You'll need to update your color schema.

>>20684551
>Sonny with a 4k average, higher than Shu
How the fuck. Maybe he is a pornstar after all.

>>20684551
Good month for Niji EN in general, Pomu and Selen putting up maybe record highs? Elira is kind of falling off though and Reimu continues to be an embarrassment, losing even to Mika.

>>20684551
Nari is basically a JP streamer in all but name if I'm not scrambling names. She hopped on the chance to incline when she got attention bmand has done well for herself as a result.

>>20684551
>Anyone knows who this girl is and WTF is she doing?
King Kuzuha tweeted out a song of hers, and since then she has sextupled her viewership.

>>20684731
yeah they are all going to graduate on the first dude trust me

>Gura's first post Holofes, post dream fulfilled stream is members
I wish superchats could be tracked, I bet she'll pull a good amount today

>>20684310
>>20684598
2k would be a miracle for these girls since they're girls.

>>20684800
how is king's twitter this powerful

>>20684822
Already happened, more than half have graduated.

>>20684551
I take it Bae was kind of weak due to so few streams and the massive backlog of SC she had to clear? Goes to show that one month of completely insane scheduling might not be as good of an idea as say two months of very active but still manageable schedules. Going all out and the having to recharge for so long isn't great.

>>20684822

i mean, technically he is not wrong

>>20684873
>having to recharge for so long
lol

>>20684873
Shes done a lot of SC readings, took tbe first week and a bit off, and cancelled her last two streams for assorted reasons (sick + foster kitten emergency)

>>20684822
The branches don't exist after this month ends.

>>20684936
i mean koyo is not normal, no one takes just a 1 day break to fucking move

>>20684936
This is Koyori's chance after 14 years of struggling. You can't compare her to a 1* year old and have it be fair.

>>20684731
>You'll need to update your color schema.
I'll update regardless because I'm adding the following companies

>VERSEn
>VOMS
>Animare
>.LIVE
>NoriPRo
>VSPO
>MAHA5
>Neo-Porte
>Re:AcT
>HoneyStrap

QUESTION FOR ALL

Other than the ones above, is there any other ones worthy adding from this list
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/overall

(must have an youtube live presence and not be outranked by VERSEn)

>>20684963
These people that stream in foreign languages more often than English are not just going to stop. Why would we stop referring to them as NijiID and KR in the numberthread. It's objectively useful for comparison with holoID.

>>20685030
I mean, why would you need more time?
Just pack PC last and unpack it first

>>20685170
>>VERSEn

>>20684000
pretty much everyone that watched it probably had the same feeling kek

>>20685173
Because there is no Niji ID or Niji KR anymore. They're just Nijisanji. We don't put arbitrary fan groupings into the lists.

>>20685117
god, after reading about her, even if she doesn't get the best numbers, i'm glad she's finally having a little break, thank you yagoo for saving her

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>107,226: Hololive (Hololive)
>78,219: Hololive (Hololive)
>47,194: Ponto Nei (Nipplesanji)
>45,295: Amagase Muyu (Nipplesanji)
>41,472: Riri (Nipplesanji)
>40,040: Nipplesanji (Nipplesanji)
>39,766: Toya (Nipplesanji)
>39,741: Umise Yotsuha (Nipplesanji)
>27,582: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,489: Marine (Hololive)
>25,145: Yashiro (Nipplesanji)
>22,086: Kuzuha (Nipplesanji)
>20,691: Lui (Hololive)
>19,183: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,118: Holostars (Hololive)
>15,249: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,816: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,140: Chihiro (Nipplesanji)
>12,944: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,747: Kanae (Nipplesanji)
>11,187: Watame (Hololive)
>10,571: Furen (Nipplesanji)
>10,460: Hayato (Nipplesanji)
>10,403: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,364: Lize (Nipplesanji)
>10,278: Yorumi Rena (Nipplesanji)
>10,275: Fuwa (Nipplesanji)

>>20684800
based King helping to shine a spotlight on Niji's lesser known talents

>>20685278
qrd on her? I only heard she's used to be a small game VA.

>>20682338
I was just dreaming of the perfect chart were I wouldn't have to any thinking or comparison myself. Can't I dream of perfection?

>>20685170
If you are going to add 2views corpos, then Tsuderia, KawaiiPro, Phase-Connect, and Prism have vtubers with more than 200+ CCV.

>>20685264
>groups of streamers launched to appeal to specific markets with almost no overlap
>arbitrary grouping
why does this matter to you anon? Like I said, it's objectively useful.

>>20685525
Also we need the colors back due to adding a bunch of 2-view companies soon. Sorry.

>>20685525
> objectively useful
Adding aliases is not objectively useful.

>>20685509
Are they in this list?
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/overall

I didn't plan to include 2 view corpos but
> Neo Porte has the Emperor, not a 2 view
> HoneyStrap has Patra
> MAHA5 competes head to head with Niji and Holo ID
> Re. Act because they have a constant presence in this board (somehow?)

>>20685473
she had a really small amount of roles for like a decade, and also tried vtubing before to not much success, like iirc her graduation vod still has like the same amount of views as one asakoyo episode
she's also been a holofan for a while, even got to collab with mel and azki on her pl iirc

Jezas take a look at this shit

>>20685473
From what I've gathered...
>Former.vtuber
>12 VA gigs in the past few years and none of them really took off
Or something like that. Basically bushes been getting grinding for years but never caught her break until Hololive, hence why she's going at it like she's on crack. I really, really, REAALLY hope she's keeping track of her own health so she doesn't end up in a situation like Marine did.

>>20685509
And you have Emma from Cyberlive and that vampire girl from MyHoloTV that gets over 2-3k sometimes.

>>20685264
>>20685525
>>20685589
> They're just Nijisanji. We don't put arbitrary fan groupings into the lists.
I'll actually have to use a two tier way to differentiate the companies and branches.

I'll use color for the companies and "stripes" or something similar for the branches / geographic areas

>>20685625
>somehow?
They're the company that holo-antis think Cover is and niji-antis think Anycolor is. Their incompetence is legendary. Imagine having Laplus and fumbling it.

>>20685709
See >>20685625, I can only scrape what's in that list

>>20685679
As dumb as this pog dude is I at least respect him for trying to stream during NA hours and play actual games rather than just bait Chinese fujos.

>>20685653
She also shilled herself on reddit, twice, and no one replied. She is way less bitter than most people would be or is better at hiding it.

>>20684551
>She still wouldn't outrank Sana, whose current median would be over 6k if she had the required number of streams to be in this ranking
GO SANA GO

Jezas take a look at this shit

>>20685876
WTF, THEY'RE CULLING SUISEI CCV NOW?

>>20685907
VOD, CULLING SUISEI VOD

>>20685625
I don't watch them. But there are 2-view corpo numberfags, who pop up from time to time here whenever their chuubas get "good" numbers.

Tsuderia
Star: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyKsg-57XC9pyHbP7v3kCPQ/about
11M views, 100k+ subs
KawaiiPro
Star: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1INzefw3R7M9-3QEHYmMQ/about
7M views, 100k+ subs
Phase-Connect
This one actually smol, but I remember anon posted one of them got 500+ CCV
Prism:
Star: https://www.youtube.com/c/ShikiMiyoshino/about
5M views, 100k+ subs

Doesn't seem like they are in the list. Their fans need to register them.

>>20685907
wamy

>>20685876
I mean, yeah, Kiara is culled, but the dance teaching stream have a much higher replayability, and it spawned many clips to keep the interest on it

>>20685876
Understandable, no one wants to watch or rewatch an outdated Elden Ring stream.

8 day old 3 hours Ina ER, don't remember the CCV but it was probably like 12k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCU_ODm6TPw&t=1006s

148k views

>>20685907
>>20685955
rope yourself samefag

>>20685962
>Their fans need to register them.
I don't think that's how vstats rolls. The owner of the site is @HoloData, he likely only adds the ones that make sense for him.

I'll make a huge leap and assume he adds the JP corpos and assorted JP related indies.
I am using "must outrank VERSEn" as a meme metric but if the list becomes too long I'll likely create the equivalent of
> Ayame rule
and make it the
> Hajime Rule
and filter out any streamer that can't outrank Hajime to keep the list short

>>20685170
ブイアパ for sure, Met is possibly the highest average in 774 and the others are no slouches, maybe シュガーリリック if you want the full 774 set (well except Hiyocro since they're not on there)
Also leftfield choice because they seem to just do ASMR and I've never seen this board talk about them but すりぃぷもんすたー's top girl is averaging over 5k this month

>>20685876
I don't care what you post nothing in this world will make me care about your VOD view cope. Also no fucking way did the myth 3d collab only have 15k CCVs if it did >wew

>>20684000
I feel bad for this girls. Aside from the rarity buff for being the most recent wave to debut since edengumi, which shouldn't even be considered as a buff since they all mostly tanked CCV-wise after debut buffs wore off, this girls pretty much got thrown into the lions pit.
>No Koshien/holiday buff (edengumi debuted during a holiday and just as Koshien preps were starting)
>Announced during HoloFes week
>Debuted WHILE HOLOFES WAS ONGOING (regardless of the "lack" of crossover, there would have been some bored tourist who would've checked them out if Holofes wasn't literally happening at the same time)
>All hype was drowned out by HoloFes aftermath on debut day and will now have to contend with Neo Porte debut hype as well
What the fuck was that retard, Riku thinking. You could have fucking delayed it by JUST 1 DAY and save this girls from irrelevance. I swear to god if it wasn't for Mito, Chinman and Kuzuha, Nijisanji would be below 774.

>>20686126
It's not the myth collab, it's the initial dance teaching stream with Ame, and Egg Gura

>>20685838
Don't think that was her shilling, two posts are from differernt accounts.

>>20686130
and on top of all of that their rigging is shit

enschizo is so easy to spot, its kinda sad

>>20686130
Mito was the only carry that Nijisanji had at the beginning.

>>20685876
>open stream
>see the disaster that was the dancing collab
>close stream
Go ahead and prove me wrong. I refuse to believe that anyone watched the stream for more than 10 minutes.

>>20686178
Yeah that was weird, I watch for like 5 seconds because I saw it on recommended but the girl I saw honestly looked like a png tuber.

The good times are ending, back to retarded EN vs JP tribalism.

>>20686130
So, how are the girls? did you actually watch the debut or were you too busy watching holofes? kek

>>20686260
>make up a wild vague theory
>prove me wrong
not how that works anonchama

>>20685876
> SEAnigs and JOPs didn't watch it live, so CCV is low
> very clippable stream, spam of clips in both EN and JP
> curious watchers (myself included) check out the stream and go through the timestamps for a bit (about 30s is enough to get registered as a view).
> leave once bored or satisfied enough

This is why VOD numbers will ALWAYS be a cope, there are so many factors that can change VOD numbers such as time of stream, regular audience, clippability and other x-factors that it's just not possible to compare two VODs straight up.

>>20686104
>ブイアパ
>シュガーリリック
> if you want the full 774
Fucking 774, why did they have to split their streamers over this many companies? WIll add the two too
>すりぃぷもんすた
>top girl is averaging over 5k this month
WOW, gotta add too, for some flavour

What about out of this indie list?
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/1
I'll end up adding all and purging the ones not clearing the "Hajime rule" but the following will be added for sure
>kson
>gatchman
>coromin
>nabi
>tomari mari
>macoto
>ito life
>shigure ui

Am I missing any?

Sui-chan deleted her VOD...

are we going for a samefagging record this thread or what?

>>20686351
OK, feel free to remove the first sentence. The point still stands.

>>20686405

YAB..........

>>20686416
is it samefagging if it's always the same 2 retards having the same discussion everyime

>>20686405
it is privated not deleted. Any kind of editing in yt studio will do that, and youtube shit system will only return it to the vod after a few days

>>20686405
is it actually cause of the apex coach shit, jfc

>>20686405
uh oh...
well this counts as a "response" of sorts, so I'm guessing she'll just try to memoryhole it and push through. It's just gonna bring unwanted attention though...
she could've just left it up and stopped streaming for a couple of days like she always does and it would've been dead in the water.

>>20686130
If Nijisanji depended only of 3 vtubers, they would be much smaller. They depend on at least 50 of them in JP alone. Reminder that while those 3 are the some of the biggest, there's still many that sell in other parts of the company in sponsorship, albums, merchandise and the like. Rion, Furen and Hakase all make money for Nijisanji with albums outside of their own streams.
Nijisanji never would be below 774 because they have a ton that are fairly above them in ccv alone, while 774 itself only has Patra, Haneru and Met doing even midget numbers.

>>20686484
multiple replies by the same retard to the same post also is samefagging

>>20686208
And that fat fuck Riku should be thanking his lucky stars for her. Iinchou is pretty much a pearl being thrown at a housebroken swine. Imagine being given that kind of talent, literally the next Oyabun, and fumbling it on the 10 yard line while fucking Yagoo picks up the football and runs all the way for a TD. Even the goddamn browns ain't that cursed.

>>20686524
If it's something else and that coaching section stays on the VOD, my knees will turn to dust

>>20686130
ehhh Nijisanji is more like an Ant Colony.
There may be queens, workers, Kings and Generals, but ultimately the hive takes priority over the individual.
And every Ant is replaceable.

>>20686354
You can say there are a bunch of factors that effect CCV too. That's kind of a meaningless criticism.

>actual interesting discussion in the /#/ thread for once
>holoEN cope poster enters
anyways suisei sex

>>20686354
All this is your insane schizo headcanon, anon. VOD numbers being cope? Youtube literally runs on views, CCV is a meaningless metric measuring just how many people can watch you live in one specific moment and will always, always, always favor streamers who stream to a dedicated country (Japan, Russians, Brazil) vs people who stream to global audiences in English.

If you had 20k people watching you and a VOD one fourth smaller than someone with 10k, the two had similar durations, then your content was less appealing. Copes like
>n-no its not fair i had more people watching at the same time
>w-well people watched your video for less time no I can't prove it
>i-it's because people heard your video was better later on (?? yes and??)
Are retarded

>>20686338
Of course I was watching Holofes. It's like asking if I'd miss the MS and Sony E3 conferences (back when people expected them to be good) for whatever microstransaction ridden bullshit EA was showcasing on a seperate stream.

>>20686442
>point
That's a weird way to spell "speculation".

there's one giant bait right in the middle of that fucking wall of text

>>20684800
>>20684551
>>20684691
Nari had a incline for two reasons: One of them was said, the kuzuha tweet. THe other one was about she being part of the valorant tournament with JP alongside Hada and Hayun.
But I wouldn't say she's bora 2.0 except for having a big growth because most KR already speak japanese for years as their main language.

>>20686645
Hololive is the same way. We've seen that with the departures of two of their biggest earners in Coco and Rushia without causing anything to miss a beat. People might like to say Sora or Fubuki or Pekora are irreplaceable but at the end of the day, they ain't.

>>20686677
I don't really agree with you on your parade about ccv vs vod having a high correlation but you're 100% right about vod being more important to youtube than CCV, even Cover use VOD, though really, no one here will ever care about it because it's not easy to shitpost with it.

>>20686384
Meika, Natori Sana, Virtual Obaachan (no really check out her average CCV it's nuts) for sure, probably Mochi Komame (the TW pandering girl, still gets easily 4 digits every stream), maybe Gorilla for shits and gigs

>>20686817
Sora doesn't even NEED to be replaced. She's one of the least popular holos and no one watches her at all. All they do is parrot the
>thank you for hololive meme
Because everyone does it. Then they pay no real "tribute" in views or cash.

>>20686697
that has to be one of the most retarded comparisons out there to call a debut a MTX lmao

>>20686817
Coco was a literal Queen dude, we had this discussion last thread. The fanbase was close to getting torn apart during those times, and the entire debacle was akin to Cover and Coco threading a string through a needle.
Rushia as well, if it hadn't gone exactly the way it had, this could have ended a lot of JP fan goodwill.

>>20686817
I don't disagree, actually. People may cry, mourn and all but life goes on all the same. Rushia was terminated weeks ago and most people already forgot about her.

>>20686874
It's very easy to shitpost with, retards in here are just either stuck in their ways or their oshi is not doing very hot on VOD views, so they are trying thrir best to discredit them.

stop taking the enschizo too seriously..

>>20686575
Riku this Riku that. Is this thread aware that Iwanaga existed and was the head of nijisanji for years?

>>20686817
Those 3 are replaceable but with the caveat that they don't leave on bad terms with the company. If they left and it was clear (or vaguely inferred) that it was due to Cover doing a WACTOR impression then shit would crumble faster than a house of cards.

>>20686677
Or its illustrative of different target demographics' watching habits. You didn't even refute anything in the post you're responding to about the reasons vod views fluctuate.
>More excuses about low EN CCV
>constant cull cope
the cancer killing /#/ bros
>>20686874
Samefag

>>20686877
Oh Tenkai Tsukasa too to complete AllGuys and his average is solid

>>20686965
>Coco was a literal Queen dude, we had this discussion last thread. The fanbase was close to getting torn apart during those times
lol

>>20685173
What about the one that stream more in another language like Mika with english and Nari with Japanese. After the merge, do these people still count as NijiID and NijiKR ? What if more of people start following their footsteps ?

>>20686584
Well she did make some questionable remarks about abusing staff and hinted at hitting them at some point of time in that vod

>>20686817
Only if they either left on goid terms like Coco, or if they breached contract and did a huge yab like Rushia. Both those scenarios leave Cover in the clear.

>>20686900
Not as retarded as Nijisanji debuting their next wave alongside HoloFes. It's not like they would've lost money if they delayed it by 1 day.

>>20686677
VOD views themselves are fine anon, and VOD-specific discussions and VOD number comparisons between chuubas (within the same timeframe) are ALWAYS welcome here.

Problem is that most of these "VOD"posters also equate VOD numbers to CCV for some reason, forgetting all the aforementioned factors that can increase VODs but reduce CCV.

VOD views being correlated to CCV to create some sort of "cull" is why the term VOD cope exists in the first place.

Try posting interesting VOD numbers without correlating it with CCV.

>>20687092
>post a bunch of claims without evidence
>"You didn't refute my headcanon!"
You are a retard.

>>20687260
dumbest post I've seen today

>>20687120
> actual newfag

>>20687046
Yes, and he's not there anymore. So are you saying that Iwanaga was the real brain of the operations and the reason for the all the "own goals" that nijisanji has been scoring on itself lately is because Riku is a self destructive dumbass without an ojiisan keeping him on a leash?

oohhh oOHHHH ggggoooooOOOODDD i'm gonNA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>20687185
yikes that one's far more yab worthy kek
Is Susie a Karen at work?

>>20687358
> no refutation
VOD cope will continue to get shit on

>>20687445
>Is Susie a Karen at work?
more like a gigastacy

>>20687260
That problem comes from Youtube itself having fucked over CCV and making it a nigh useless metric in measuring two chubas against each other. VOD views shortly after processing, chat engagement, likes, polls. These aren't "copes" these are data entries of anons desperately trying to understand just how popular a stream really is or isn't. And yes they will invite comparisons between chubas we can see being affected by shit like slow viewership verification and those that don't.

The fact is "VOD cope" screechers come in yelling about it because they refuse to stop seeing the world in CCV and have an agenda against the culled chubas, having basically been mindbroken by them. Them's the facts and everything else is the real cope. Every single person that discounts VODs is 2-3 posts away from screaming about EN sharts.

After all, "VOD cope" "likes cope" "polls cope" was all being done for every single chuba during peak CCVid. You cannot put that back in the jar, everyone trying to stifle that discussion is just going "fuck you got mine" because their oshi doesn't suffer from Susan's magic number poison anymore.

>>20687301
fascinating response. still not an argument
>>20687092
>>20686354

>>20681425
thats definitely not true anon. whenever there's dead hours there's discussions about other nijisanji branches in /nijien/. Even without dead hours a lot of people were talking about the debuts in the thread yesterday, and whenever there's concerts, it becomes the main subject a lot of times.
Of course, there's always the shitters who tell to fuck off because its a en thread but overall thats what been happening since lazulight days
t. someone who uses that thread since day 1

Let me intrude in you retards conversation. Calling Coco a queen would imply she was isolated at the top when compared to everyone else. She was far from it. Her meme streams did very good, but the regular game streams were mid tier at best.

>>20687260
>VOD views being correlated to CCV to create some sort of "cull"
You are retarded, cull was confirmed when holos had almost twice votes on a poll within 5 minutes than their current displayed CCV. It is undisputable.

Is Suisei apex coach the true final yab?

>>20687410
Iwanaga was responsible for Yumenographia and SLEE so outside of Nijisanji I wouldn't say that. I don't know Riku's involvement either way as we don't have details and someone would need to be on iwanaga's position in nijisanji

>>20687445
Is jork, but antis would pretend otherwise

>>20687445
Suisei is a known perfectionist. She's admitted on streams that she's not the easiest person to work with and is constantly clashing with management. Say what you will, but Suisei will not settle for mediocre shit.

>>20687521
You didn't provide any arguments to refute, retard. Your fantasies have no relevancy.

>>20684097
I love this song.

Anyone have the numbers on that one Gura VOD that was unavailable to watch for several hours?

>>20687605
Anon, Suisei is the one streamer that said
>go destroy them for me
when zhangs were spamming her chat, she gave anyone with membership over 1 year mod power.and told them to go nuts

She wouldn't EVER be bullied or tormented without fighting back and tearing her tormentors a new one very publicly

the worst schizos are definitely the ones that write three paragraphs every post

>>20687445
It is, was a bit surprised when literally no one mentioned it on the threads after or during the stream tho. I guess hoshiyomis knew those are remarks that might bit her in the back in the future

>>20687605
I'm her coach and no I'm not

>>20686405
seems to be issues with the music
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1505637764808601604

>>20687605
>The Stacy of Hololive
>final yab is le apex coach
I don't think so

>>20687185
What the fuck? Hopefully that was just a weird joke.

>>20687563
What everybody is making fun of is this the resident thread faggot that thinks somehow holoEN is culled more than every other streamer on earth with no evidence.
>>20687673
But I did, you're just too far gone in your delusion or have the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader

>>20687605

she privated her stream so the yab potential got some funnel, but let's see how it goes

>>20687891
dyrbi?

>>20687563
CCVID was a different ballgame and everyone /here/ as well as a lot of the chuubas themselves (even non-numberfag ones like Mio) admitted that the numbers were fucked during that period.
Such drastic deviations have not occurred since then which is why CCV continues to be used as the main metric for our resident horse races.

If you can get a reliable tool running that scrapes literally all of Nijisanji + Hololive + other minor companies and close to 300+ individual channels, and records all the immediate VOD numbers after a stream ends, then we can try and do something with it.

Until then, CCV will continue being the only properly measurable racing tool we have, so we will simply use that.

>>20687951
she seems to at least.

>>20687777
Not like anyone speaks Japanese.

>>20687951
she says is because of prism melody, didn't that have a topic already

>>20687777
I got this from the Hoshiyomi split. Is this it >>20687700?
>Suisei was thinking about what she would do if she was in charge of booths and couldn't think of anything so she was glad she was in the live group
>she added her two cents to a lot of things and did her best
>while talking, yells for manager to give her the "disclosure list" (kaiji list)?
>managers kept telling her this and that can't be done they don't have time
>she and others were saying if they can't not do that and they should do it
>she asked managers if why they don't have time and wants them to show her how exactly the schedule would conflict
>was told this and that would be an issue so she said that if they're lacking the resources to do it just let Hoshimachi do it. They keep complaining that they don't have enough people and she was like "When are you ever going to have enough people""If you don't have enough people then I'm just gonna do it, give me more work!"
>they ended up not particularly giving Suisei more work but they did her best to make it happen regardless

>>20687891
She claims YT AI bonked the stream due to it using the orchestra version of Prism Melody. If it comes back up with no issues then that's that.

>>20687626
>What do you mean you guys still doesn't have enough manpower? If that's the problem then give them to me I'll do them myself
>In the end, staff-san managed to finished their job without giving them to me (笑)
>...
>The fest was a success, I'm glad I (hit ?) the staffs that one time
What did she mean by this?

>>20687951
as with anything I'm more inclined to believe what they say over what retards here say

>>20687760
194,695vod (at stream end)
306,713vod (fully processed)
26k like
14,840average
17,122peak

>>20688153
That doesn't seem like anything.

>>20687923
>But I did
No, you just made a bunch of assumptions. You have no data to back any of it up. How about this for a refutation: nah, you're wrong.

>>20687959
>Until then, CCV will continue being the only properly measurable racing tool we have, so we will simply use that.

>we

Seems like people will use whatever number they want and then you'll sperg out at people using VODs, though.

>n-no guys it's all nijis there's no EN vs JP
>hoshiyomi simultaneously denying culls while discussing his oshi's stream
heh

>>20688165
Like I said, she's a perfectionist. I love that about Suisex and would really like if IRyS was a bit more assertive like her. But yeah, I'm glad that she isn't the Daisenpai. If Sora is Hashirama, then Suisei is Tobirama.

>>20687959
you cant, vod takes several days to fully process all the views

>>20687959
>CCV
>properly measurable racing tool
Youtube literally admitted that CCV numbers are made up through several layers of their retarded pajeet algorithms.

>>20688165
Push is probably the better translation than hit here, and I can see why someone would make that mistake.

gonna go watch anime, have fun on this timeloop for the hundredth time this month

>>20688376
That's similar to what saruei fans said about their oshi when she was being 'straight-forward' with her artists/etc. Look where she is now

>>20687891

>>20688426
I'm pretty sure it was 叩け, though I didn't have the time to do a double check then so I could be wrong

>>20688395
and there ends the VOD coep

Numbers

>>20688271
>uhm actually could you cite your sources while responding to my baseless theory that also has no data
Why would I waste the effort? JP streamers VODs from way before EN debuted have always had comparatively a low likes to ccv and view ratio. That's the only data I know off the top of my head.

>>20688629
Those are pretty good numbers ngl

>>20688524
>fuck off i dont care about your opinion
well thats not what being a perfectionist means, saruei

>>20688631
You are actually retarded, holy shit. How can one fail at reading comprehension so badly?

>>20688620
maybe in your head i guess

>>20688692
And how is allegedly manipulating/abusing your coworkers being a perfectionist exactly?

>>20688395
>you cant, vod takes several days to fully process all the views

>>20688395
But Gura's GTA vod finished processing in 14 hours?

>>20688524
Saruei is just a bitch for no real reason. Other than being French I guess?

>>20688818
>14 hours to process views of a livestream
Fucking YouTube

>>20685876
Vox's vod of him just putting a mic next to his controller for 4 hours while he plays smash and calling it ASMR has 150k views.

>>20688524
You forgot a few things though anon-chama
>She isn't french
>Her perfectionist attitude reflects only in her work.
>She's in a corpo and has Daisenpai and the rest of Hololive behind her to make sure that she keeps straight instead of some faggot mod.
It all goes back to having the right foundation (Sora) and a sturdy pillar (FBK) keeping the holo house on top. I won't deny that in the right (bad) environment, she could have turned into another Saruei (Suisei's drive reminds me more of a westerner than a nip). But luckily, she's in Hololive.

>>20688761
Use your critical thinking and read the previous posts about reasons VOD views fluctuate and demographics anon. Learn how to actually respond to what is said in the posts you reply to
>>20688395
kek

>>20688426
She shouldn't be making ambiguous remarks in the first place anyway. These makes the ammos that schizos will use to interpret as they like and stir shit up. She should cut that part out if she have the chance imo

Do you guys count membership superchat numbers manually? Even during pre-chat?

>>20689017
>Do you guys count membership superchat numbers manually? Even during pre-chat?
One anon subscribes to an inordinate number of chuubas and either counts "manually" or has a script to fetch it from the VOD

>>20689049
cool!

>>20689015
Cutting it out would make it seem like she did something bad. Leave it in and let people cry about it if they want. She obviously didn't punch somebody and then casually chat about it, it's just people being willfully stupid.

>>20689017
no one counts membership superchats, all the numbers you see are from free streams only

>>20688998
>read the previous posts about speculations without evidenve on how VOD views fluctuate and demographics anon.
ftfy

>>20688921
I'm not saying she's a negative to hololive. To the contrary I'm glad she did what she had to do to make sure the event was as good as it possibly could (and so was chat at that point of time).
Im just saying that those are remarks that she doesn't necessarily have to make in her public streams for obvious reasons. People were already trying to stir shit up regarding to her merch she advertised last year, why give them more shit to work with?

>>20688629
Those are "brand new episode of popular anime series" numbers. New episode of attack on titan has less.

>>20689017
If the waiting room is public which most are the tracking sites count those
>>20689049
He uses a script

Found this on suisei topic, new song?

>Ina's Holofes Zatsu has 6k waiting
Shame Gura paywalled hers

>>20689575
>new song?
no, just doesnt have a mv

>>20689575
It was released in January after Suisei's solo concert

>>20685735
>Imagine having Laplus and fumbling it.
Don't make it seem like they had the same access to the audience that HoloNiji have. This type of situation is common in the entertainment industry.

>>20689770
>>20689805

fuck I'm retarded, baited by updated 3 days ago text, didn't check first.

VODcope is pushed almost entirely by one chumbud spic schizo. You can safely ignore him because he has no interest in numbers, he only wants to try and show Gura is the bestest ever and since she gets completely shit on in CCV he uses VODcope as a distraction.

>>20685170
Why are you adding animare and honeystrap separately? they are all under the same company, they just have different group names.

Anyone got the numbers on High Tides views growth after Moona sung it in HoloFes?

>>20689926
They're listed separately on all the tracking sites

>>20689744
Gura isn't doing a Holofes Zatsu. She is doing a watch along of day 1.

>>20684551
top 5 most popular in nijisanji in march:
JP: Kuzuha, Mito, Ange, Fuwa, Yashiro
EN: Mysta, Vox, Luca, Ike, Sonny
ID: Mika, Hana, Bobon, Siska, Taka
KR: Nari, Hada, Nagi, Hayun, Suha (btw Roha mostly stream on twitch so you might want to count that)

Gura's member chat is going faster than I've seen her normal streams go. Jesus Christ

Literally 10 miles a minute

>>20689851
ReAct is just really bad management wise, I think they can only really give support to 2-3 girls and ignore the rest of their talents, hope they lose Leona soon she is too good for this shit company too.

>>20689926
>Why are you adding animare and honeystrap separately
Because vrabi only carries animare, forcing me to fetch honey strap from vstats

>>20686877
Gorilla gets ~1k fairly regularly and is someone to watch at tourneys.
>>20686384
Oh there's some interesting people on the list here.
Surprised not all Vspo-extended seem to be there. As much as we meme him not wanting to be called a Vtuber, Kamito has by far the highest numbers among VSPO-extended.
Edit: found Uruca. Only vtuber listed for the Crazy Raccon group.
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UChrTMfNcD1eN2ENGWBD7lUQ/overall
3-4k average for march. Color him like VSPO.
Anyway, would recomend including the
>Wactor
Group, even though their numbers are a meme. Around 100-200 during JP time but 300 to over 1k during ES time
Misora's a 2k average
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UC6tSB9TnO0f01OBeo9UEJZA/2022-3
The newest full SP vtuber Himea gets their highest numbers, but she's not tracked anywhere.
https://youtube.com/channel/UCvm34tgJ0ZaKzTinWVyXpcA
>Voms
would be interesting to track, though Pikamee gets better viewers on Twitch nowadays
From the solos recommending if they sound good:
>Coromin Ch - 2k lately, original Corona girl
>Uto ch - she's back, 4.5k last stream
>96 Neko - famous uitate, 2.5k average on this gaming channel. Among the few Ayame collab partners
>Annin Miru - got some 5ks it seems
>歌衣メイカ - 600-5k ccv, og male chuba, collabs with every company.
>Pyork - 2nd highest ccv Thai chuuba, after her girlfriend, Hori 07, who's with MyHoloTV and not tracked.
>Nerumero - that Ghenshin player that got massive 5-12k ccv spikes only for that game

All these akasupas lost behind an untrackable member stream..

>>20690278
Same for Kiara's, she even considered slow mode but realized that it wouldn't work.

>>20685876
The seething this one image caused was great, good job anon.

>>20687537
Queen in terms of navigating her graduation so that Hololive as a whole wouldn't get negatively impacted by it, not in content.

>>20690278
they are just leaving a comment and leaving

3/1 - 3/20 watch time
>NijiEN: 4,153,490 (1,288.8 hours)
>HoloEN: 3,106,247 (382.5 hours)

>NijiEN male: 3,102,196 (665.29 hours)
>NijiEN female: 1,051,294 (622.39 hours)

>Myth: 1,835,187 (198.41 hours)
>Council: 906,264 (126.13 hours)

top 5
>Luca 563,821
>Vox 542,417
>Mori 492,547
>Ina 472,582
>Mysta 385,833

>>20690363 (me)
And i think there is a lot of new members.

>>20690554

ensharts???

>>20690622
Watch time is a meme twitch metric.

>>20690622
>watch time
what, now you're gonna tell me koyori is a top tier cause she got third place in february or something

>>20690554
and yes
Luca + Vox watchtime = all NijiEN fem

>>20690622
>>20690554
do you by chance work for Stream Hatchet, enschizo?

>>20690695
>Watch time is a meme twitch metric.
Good thing we're not on twitch and aren't doing any of the things this post could be about (sleeping, reacting to videos, Lazy content etc)

>>20689289
Nope, wrong. New aot has 2.5 like it usually does.

>>20690917
It's a meme twitch metric because views already exist and are a far more useful indicator of how popular videos are. Twitch is cucked out of using this since they either nuke their VODs or only keep them up for a few months, leading to (((Stream Hatchet))) inventing this stupid metric.

On no planet is Amouranth a top tier streamer on Pekora's level but yet she's an unassailable threat Peko cannot catch up with in this stupid metric. In no way is Koyori a top tier holo yet she dominates in this metric.

Its nothing to do with content inflating twitch viewership, its just a stupid thing to keep track of on youtube.

>>20690554
So what source and calculation do you use to get these numbers? Post it here, if it's legit then I want to do my own so we can verify the accuracy.

>>20690554
Go Ina!

>>20691169
>On no planet is Amouranth a top tier streamer on Pekora's level
Eh. Amouranth certainly makes a lot more money.

総視聴時間ランキング(3月20日24時推定値:VSTATS集計)
1. 3,032,484 葛葉 (161.6時間, 21枠, 平均18,763人) Kuzuha
2. 1,342,371 兎田ぺこら (58.9時間, 19枠, 平均22,802人) Pekora
3. 986,111 さくらみこ (52.9時間, 18枠, 平均18,654人) Miko
4. 908,740 ホロライブ公式 (20.2時間, 9枠, 平均45,068人) Hololive Official
5. 751,507 白上フブキ (72.6時間, 29枠, 平均10,353人) Fubuki
6. 742,061 白銀ノエル (58.0時間, 15枠, 平均12,789人) Noel
7. 734,291 勇気ちひろ (125.0時間, 18枠, 平均5,875人) Chihiro
8. 723,796 渋谷ハル (113.9時間, 29枠, 平均6,353人) Hal
9. 701,771 博衣こより (96.4時間, 31枠, 平均7,277人) Koyori
10. 660,086 叶 (93.3時間, 21枠, 平均7,074人) Kanae
11. 618,102 社築 (70.2時間, 16枠, 平均8,811人) Yashiro
12. 563,821 ルカ・カネシロ (86.6時間, 18枠, 平均6,512人) Luca
13. 560,587 角巻わため (81.2時間, 17枠, 平均6,905人) Watame
14. 529,515 ヴォックス・アクマ (60.0時間, 19枠, 平均8,832人) Vox
15. 499,192 沙花叉クロヱ (57.4時間, 18枠, 平均8,692人) Chloe
16. 497,938 白雪レイド (164.5時間, 34枠, 平均3,027人) Reid
17. 495,153 不破湊 (62.1時間, 14枠, 平均7,971人) Fuwa
18. 492,547 森カリオペ (48.7時間, 13枠, 平均10,117人) Mori
19. 487,154 獅白ぼたん (30.4時間, 15枠, 平均16,051人) Botan
20. 475,978 雪花ラミィ (38.8時間, 15枠, 平均12,264人) Lamy

>>20691295
1.5 million$ per month to be precise.
About a year's worth of in hand money for Rushia from what we can gather.

>>20691331
HoloEn doesn't stream enough for this metric I assume

ina confirms that shes gonna have a proper 3D Debut

>>20691234
vstats
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/6
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/10

>>20691331

>1. 3,032,484 葛葉 (161.6時間, 21枠, 平均18,763人) Kuzuha

KING!

>>20691457
Is that including OF?

>>20691154
I meant the leechers

>>20691331
>Reid
thats how you know this is a meme metric

>>20691457
I dont think shes making as much money as all of Holo combined, but probably as much as some of the branches separately.

>>20691565
koyori and watame are over botan on this one, should've been enough of a clue
for me it's really only interesting when something like fubuki golden magikarp, or kuzuha's million hours of elden ring happen

>>20691520
>20k+ median
>no.1 album numbers
>insane watchtime
>insane vod views

>>20691295
That is more on her OF

>>20691565
It means far more in real word applications than median does

Kiara confirmed Pomu watched her peformance and loved it, and they're exchanging DM about it.
I guess tweeting about it wasn't allowed by NijiEN management ?

Here's some VOD numbers
https://youtu.be/u66Mxi5sI58
Noel's most viewed video, 8 month old ASMR stream hit 3 million views around February 2nd.
It's now at 3.565 million views almost 7 weeks later.
At 80k a week, it would be in the top 30 songs of the week and, the next stream after Gura's to reach 5 million views.

>>20691565
It's a bit of a meme metric in that the numbers alone are of little use, but the hours streamed and CCV being present put it to 'something interesting' tier at least.

>>20691998
Maybe management told them to knock it off after the discord yab.

>>20691998
Kiara has a mouth too big for her own good sometimes

>>20691506
Thank gods. It's just Mori then, though I understand that she wanted to have it ready for her birthday so she doesn't have to wait ANOTHER year for a 3d bday.

>>20691998
Or she choose not to on her own to not cause drama.

>>20691998
Yeah niji managment probably forbid then from mentioning holo

>>20692020
Noel ASMR VODs are so strong. I wish Choco would be able to keep them free because they would probably do well too

>>20692198
they could debut her next week. she lives in Japan anyway

>>20691998
the no restrictions meme...

>>20691998
You think Millie also watched too? She's friends with HoloIDs right?

>>20691565
Median CCV is equally a meme as proven when Ayame and He-Ayame both "beat" Fubuki in December

>>20691998
>>20692290
meds

>>20691511
>vstats
Is there a clue on how they calculate watch time? Is it just vod views times vod duration or is there something else in the mix?

>>20691998
Speaking of NijiEN, what did they think of the new JP wave?

>>20685170
Vsen? Not to be confused with Versen.

>>20692663
worse, its ccv * time

>>20690764
Luca, Vox and Mytsa really are the powerhouses of Luxiem, huh

>>20691331
>1. 3,032,484 葛葉 (161.6時間, 21枠, 平均18,763人) Kuzuha
KING, HERE IS YOUR CROWN!

>>20692663
avg ccv * time

>>20685876
English covers all timezones. No one is going to watch a livestream that's too inconvenient for them unless its a special event

>>20691998
>exchanging DM
Chimkin...
Seriously, you need to keep private convo private even if the other side has no problem with you talking about it. I know you have years and years in the field but it only takes one small slip.

>>20692795
Literally any metric you pick will tell you that. Mysta tends to have higher CCV and Vox gets more supas but generally they three are the powerhouses of Luxiem. Ike is okay, clearly head and shoulders over the rest of the branch but below those three, and Shu is on the level of Noctyx.

>>20685170
Out of those, since Kemomimirefle isn't there can add ますかれーど instead. They also do mostly horny ASMR content and get decent numbers (Nano, Alice, and Supika can hit 1k viewers on a good day).

>>20693074
Shu and Ike may be more popular fanart/merch wise than streaming numbers suggest but those numbers are nebulous.

>>20692795
>>20684551
>Mysta 10.8k median
>Vox 10.3k median
>Luca 8k median

>>20693023
What's up with NijiEN management's anti Hololive collab stance anyway?

>>20693023
https://youtu.be/ww5Pbuj-aYQ?t=17295
Pomu talk about DMing Kiara " I love you" in german in public stream, I don't think any of those two cares

>>20693023
Maybe she wasn't expecting snitches to instantly post member only stuff in every tread like this little bitch. >>20691998
Or maybe she doesn't care that much.
Cordiality looks good between companies.

>>20693264
They don't want Hololive leeching from their girls!

>>20692784
>>20692895
Argh. I guess it's more accurate than using vod views, if only slightly.
Righto, thanks for the help. Time to crack on, then.

GO DEADEBAT GO
Mori official colors was pink but well

>>20693226
Better than Council and lower than Myth feels correct popularity wise for Luxiem.

>>20693264
mentioning hololive would make their chink audience angry

>>20693023
They don't care and the fans of both of them like it.

>>20692895
>avg
Nobody uses the average

>>20693392
no way are they more popular than council

I see a lot of samefagging today

>>20686384
Nobody mentioned Tenkaiji yet. His CCV is usually in the 1k-4k range.

>>20685170
Aisha Channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/PolygonOfficial/channels

>>20693517
Anon, the definition of "hours watched" is the sum of the avg ccv * stream time.

>>20693586
>>20693392
>this again

>>20693640
>>20693618
>>20693156
>>20692720
Ah, I'll just fetch every single one of them on vstats and apply some sort of "Hajime line" or "VERSEn line" or "nijiID / nijiKR line" to weed out the midgets

>>20693586
They're more popular than SOME of council. Just with a different audience.

>>20693709
huh?

>>20690293
thats a shame. I wonder why the fuck they only picked those two groups from 774 and ignored the rest..
>>20685735
This. Despite their fumblings, Anycolor and Cover are still much above the rest of the industry lol

>>20686384
I dont think animare is a company, or the other ones, are they? they seem to me just vtuber groups like with vspo

>>20693787
Using 'popularity' to compare them has no meaning because they don't have the same fanbases.

>>20690293
>>20693824
post-vnuma rip

>>20693586
Only in terms of numbers they are.

>>20693308
>>20693332
>>20693437
Is the the same definition of 'they don't care' used by ledditors when they said Coco doesn't care about zhang's harrassment because she's American even though it was fucking crystal clear it was taking a toll on her?

Predictions for EN today (JST Time)
>8AM Fauna: Minecraft - 8k
MC is usually good for numbers.
>10AM Mumei: Drawing - 8k
Mumei has pulled decent numbers drawing so I expect she'll hold it.
>10AM Bae: Cyberpunk - 5k
Going lower because of overlap with Mumei and Cyberpunk's bad rep.
>9PM IryS: Chad Cast - 10k
Chadcast has done well in this slot, might do better because Mori miht talk more about her album, 3d stuff and holofest.

>>20693264
There's no such thing as anti hololive stance. They woulnd't be tweeting about hololive concerts in their accounts for obvious reasons but Pomu literally cant shut up about kiara and others have mentioned hololive members here and there.

>>20693735
>>20685170
Might as well check out Hinabe from Pixela

>>20694214
If Bae can't outperform Aki... that'd be pretty bad.

>>20694405
If it is not in this list
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/overall
it's a no go

>>20693586
They are moer popular than some council. Vox for sure is more popular than Sana and in subs he will surpass them with how he's growing. In terms of CCV they are above all but Kronii i think

>>20694179
No. It's completely unrelated.

>>20694214
>Going lower because of overlap with Mumei and Cyberpunk's bad rep.
Retard tier take. Cyberpunk is a popular game, no matter how hard the internet seethed. It's also heavy on story and people want to see holos react to popular story beats.

>>20694480
>>20694085
>>20693753
yea my bad, sometimes i forget i'm in # since there is so much offtopic stuff here

>>20694214
When is Fauna MC? I feel like people are pent up to watch some normal streams, Holo EN MC, and see Fauna again. Unless it's "speedrunning" or has overlap I'd except over 10k.

>>20693387
That dude in the center is going nuts

>>20694480
No way, any time Kronii does content her audience actually wants to watch she mogs them pretty hard. Its just that Luxiem is basically full blast pandering during their golden age. We'll see if they continue to incline, stabilize, or even recline (like Vox seems to be doing).

>Ina getting her usual 11k
>Sana getting 6k+
Holo EN surely bouncing back from a sluimp

>>20694913
This is how you use the post event buff. The mostly squandered it with the SportsFes, but it looks like they're doing it properly this time.

>>20694501
Uh huh, yeah, sure. Totally.

>>20693023
I think either they really don't care, or they just don't realize that just because it's a mengen doesn't mean it won't leak. Chuubas really need to take what happened to Moira as a lesson.

>>20694913
Both overlapping Kiara's mengen with 1-3k

>>20693735
You're not going to exclude many with a NijiID line

>>20694781
> In terms of CCV they are above all but Kronii i think
anon thats what i said. they surpass all of council but kronii a lot of times

>>20695997
>What happened to Moira
Anon, you Know not even the Niji thread watches Moira.
What happened?

>>20696101
Girl thought her members would keep the things she shared in mengen secret. When a leak inevitably happened, she got so stressed out to the point her health started degrading, and even going to a doctor didn't improve her health it one bit. Ended up having to take a break.

>>20690721
>koyori is a top tier
Yes.

>>20696648
Oof. Yea.
It's times like these you can see the difference in how Myth approaches this sort of thing. Kiara is unable to keep her mouth shut for so many things, and on the reverse side you have Gura who keeps things locked down. She was super hyped about the 1/7 Figure that will be coming out soon (it's going to be the same design as the 1/1 charity one) but kept it hidden until now without so much as even a teaser.

>>20696648
>Girl thought her members would keep the things she shared in mengen secret

>>20697220
this only counts the numbers where it was trending btw, the hashtags got a bunch of tweets more after they stopped trending, I saw day2 at like 750k an hour ago on my personal trends

>>20696717
i mean, she is #1 in my heart, but it was a relevant example

>>20684551
where would Marine be?

>>20697653
Day 2 was also 30 minutes shorter due to Rushia's parts being cut out.
Ayame...

>>20684551
Here is something to try to get the thread moving again

> Niji only ranking for March so far
Some comments

1) Kuzuha leads the pack, followed by Mito and Ange
2) Mysta has the fourth highest CCV median, while Vox has the sixth
3) Four of the Luxiem boys are in their top 20
4) Nari Yang is the highest ranked of the minor branches
5) Mika Melatika is the highest ranked ID
6) Selen is the only NIjiEN girl over 3k, and the only NijiEN girl not to be outranked by every NijiEN boy
7) Shu is the only Luxiem not in the top 5 of the NIjiEN, being outranked by Sonny
8) Toko is in the top 10 nearing a 10k median
9) The whole NijiEN branch seems to have inclined but...

and the punchline

10) Reimu is the only NijiEN under 1k, and the only NijiEN to be outranked by either a NijiID or a NijiKR (in her case, by both)

>>20698540
kys

>>20698594
What news channel is this?

>>20698594
The "head in the corner" thing these Japanese news/variety shows always look so tacky

>>20698540
Selen finally broke 3k median. Pomu, Rosemi, Nina, Enna record high too.

>>20698693
https://twitter.com/THETIME_TBS

>>20698540
>Mysta is Niji nr 4
Is this why they keep comparing them to HoloEN? So they don't ahve to admit this mediocrity is a top tier niji? Jesas

>>20691169
tv invented hours watched, but overwatch league popularized it in the streaming space. mostly because they needed some win to pitch to sponsors.

>>20698268
>where would Marine be?
Here is the DNQ list.

At the end of the month only the ones with 5 streams will make the final list

>>20698540
Niji has so much dead weight.

>>20698594
it's the segment where they talk about twitter trends right? can't wait for the translated clips

>>20699220
Marine is streaming today and tomorrow so I guess that would bump her to 1st, or 2nd after the corporate channel assuming her numbers are normal.

Next thread
>>20698729

> MIO SLOT?
< MIO SLOT!

>>20699721
actually wild how much this has grown in the past year, it used to be in the 7-9k range except for that streak of episodes of waking up other holos, and it's been getting 13ks for the last couple months