/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ah yes normie commie podcast with futakrabs and fren

>>20610517
A communist metal chuuba

Never thought I'd live to see the day

these are plebian takes

Tankie with terrible opinions that shouldn't be given attention

we have been over this managerkun, you need to post your two view in the indie thread.

ugggh these pseudointellectuals are insufferable. i'm out

Why would I care about any youtubers opinion on world politics and war, let alone a fucking vtuber

She should debate Destiny

The sound is too bad and if i want a communist lecture i can go to my local section

this bitch is retarded

The historicity is correct for the most part, but why doesn't she actually talk about the current events? What the fuck does disappointing your soviet grandma have to do with Russian aggression towards a sovereign state? I swear to god Tankies are just left-wing crusader larpers.

>>20611216
This

>imperialism is when le west exists
>communists should pick sides in conflicts between capitalist states
Being a tankie and having never read Marx, name a better duo
protip: you can't

>>20610517
>Comrade
tankie larpers are so cringe it's unbelievable

She's streaming? Impossible

>Just because Obama is black doesn't mean the US isn't fascist
Jesus Christ commies are retarded

>>20610517
Why is she LARPing as a Japanese vtuber? She does know Japan is one of the most anti-communist nations?

Human being with actual brain here.
What the fuck s a "tankie"?

>>20610517
Disgusting sockpuppets.
These bandwagoners using popular medium to push whatever shit they're feeding atm
>>>/pol/

Modern communists are just liberals obsessed with soviet asthetics.

>>20613326
>most anti-communist nations
Japan has the largest non-governing Communist Party in the modern world.

>>20613261
Prove her wrong

>>20613349
Retardbro...what happened to your brain?

>>20613349
Commie apologist/supporter, typically from a non-communist country

>>20613326
In case you couldn't tell, Mana is not very smart

>>20613326
She lives in Japan.

>>20613349
People who defend the USSR sending tanks to crush the Hungarian uprising of 1956

>>20613471
>Japan has the largest non-governing Communist Party in the modern world.
I knew someone would bring this up. The Japanese communist party is also the only party in Japan to be on the list of terrorist organisations. They have no influence in the Japanese government and are universally hated by the vast majority of the population

>>20613544
Retard. That doesn't instantly make you japanese

>>20613349
A revisionist larper that supports Stalin and/or Mao. Usually edgy children that are allergic to reading.

>>20613477
The US objectively isn't Fascist

>>20613544
That's concerning if true, I hope she hasn't been given voting rights

>>20613633
Say with me
>SWNBJ

>>20610517

>neurodivergence

>>20613477
Even by the most generous definition of "fascism" (state capitalism), the US still isn't fascist.

>>20610517
please do not post here ever again
thank you in advance

>>20610517
Fuck off, moskal.

>>20610954
>Metal chuuba
Everybody keeps saying this but during her debut she admitted that the whole metal singing was new for her and she used to sing hardcore punk which would explain why she's such a diehard commie.
She didn't list a single metal band as being one of her influences either. It was all both hardcore or metalcore crap.

Ignore the reasons for the entire Euromaidan movement

>>20612744
Seriously
It's so obvious these people just slipped into this ideology like you slip into a fashion trend

The online left is so fucking embarrassing.

it's weird cause tankies are kinda right but they're still very wrong because they blame national socialism for no reason

>>20610954
>>20614280
Honestly, as much as i hate it
the 60yrs old grandma would've thought
this is pretty in character.

nvm she's retarded

actual metal VTuber
https://youtube.com/c/ZephyriannaCh

>>20614980
hope that she's got into a corpo with a new model
either she's going to join holo to reinvent the wheel (just like mori)
or
join niji to create nijirock world along with ike

>>20614980
Thanks, Mr. Tachibana Music
When are you making Selen sing metal?

>>20615431
she's gonna sounds like a choked duck
t.tachibana
hot

>>20610517
So I don't kinda want to hear a discusion about this right now, but I am curious...which side is she on and what is she saying in one sentence.

Also, Russia-Ukraine War: IMPERIALISTS CAN SUCK DEEZ... who are the imperialists from her point of view ? I am curious.

>>20610517
I thought Needy Streamer was a parody not Nostradamus's writings.

Well, I'm glad to say I have reached agreement with her on 1 topic. The only valid argument to communists and nazis is a bullet to the head, we agree.

I didn't know the Red Scare podcast were vtubers, that's rad

Huh why are they discussing communism when each party in this war is capitalist what am i missing here?

>>20616768
thank you for your contributions, radical centrist. very brave opinion

>>20617326
Nvm i read the big red title now im more confused

This nikki girl is Indian?

>>20617462
I'm on the extreme right, idiot. Nazis are centrists.

>>20617801
nobody will hear you scream when a chuuba violates your NAP

>>20618186
vtubers aren't even real. They are imaginary characters. Entertainment can't hurt you, dumbass.

>>20613261
>Just because Obama is black doesn't mean the US isn't fascist
as a third world spic, every time I hear fucking americans saying their country is fascist it makes me wants to punch them, they have no idea what communism, persecution or fascism is

>>20610517
it was funny when she called the headpatting hand disgusting

this is hilariously dumb

As a mana fan
Fucking kill me and spare me from this retarded drivel

Idk who this is but based tankie chuba ig

I wanna see Whiskey Project fight Futakuchi Mana

I like to imagine there's a dilapidated apartment in Russia with some guy sitting next to a yellowed CRT monitor playing Mana's stream and translating while the dozen other people in the room are hanging on to his every word nodding their heads in understanding.

You know what, she is better informed than I expected. Too bad she's a commie.

>tankie
I thought the proper term was useful idiot

What a waste of bandwidth for everyone involved.

If russia is so technologically advanced why can't they develop abms and have to nerf usa with treaties
They are so ignorant lol

Letting people like this think they're intelligent is leading to the destruction of society
I want to strangle this pajeet whore

>>20619184
Eh useful idiots are the socialists. Tankies will obey orders to murder innocents so they are one step above useful idiots.

>>20619184
Tankies aren't useful idiots because they are ideological. Useful idiots are the people who'll just adopt whatever the news/trends/society tells you to believe in at any given moment in time.

>>20610517
>spending all that time dancing around Russian imperialism because they were the heckin based Soviet communists 3+ decades ago and instead hyperfocusing on NATO the entire time and how it's their fault that Russia invaded
oh fuck off kek

There's a reason why this is a lecture stream and not a debate
This sort of opinions can only thrive in an echo chamber

Why do jannies let this /pol/shit thread up? Every time this vtuber is mentioned it's just to create a stealth /pol/ thread to ramble about black people and women, Go back to /pol/ if you want to talk about Le evil commies ruining Western society or some other retarded shit.

>>20618361
took you long enough

My brain is leaking out

Tankies are the more cringier version of anarchists

Long live the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism-Manaism

>Churchill is not anti fascist
>Wagner is a western invention
Please get this pajeet far away from my oshi

>you get punched
>it's your fault
The absolute state of Putin boosters and the Blame America First crowd.

There's something absolutely hilarious about a rich Russian bitch playing the victim from the safety of a first world country and talking about geopolitics with someone who can't leave the house after dark because she'll be raped and murderer complaining about the evil west as civilians in Ukraine are killed

Here it comes Uighur genocide denial

Say it say Muslims are terrorists kek

>>20616186
>who are the imperialists from her point of view
NATO probably

>>20618821
Ywnbaw
>>>/reddit/

The Nazi Empire of Ukraine lead by a jew

WAIT WAIT, are jews communists or what?

>>20622017
But anon, the notorious fascist Barack Obama is black therefore shut up chudcel

>>20622236
OBAMNA

This girl is some western commie? Im not nearly understand her arguments.
t. Slav

I'll never get how they are comparing soft power like sanctions to hard power like bombing maternity hospitals

>>20610517
god, I hate being on the same side of this conflict as these retards.

>>20622836
>bombing maternity hospitals
Obongo did this too

>>20622821
The host is Japanese and the guest with the tin can microphone is Indian an commie

Does she support Emperor Xi though? If yes then based if no then irrelevant.

>>20623140
In Ukraine?

>>20623140
>but AMERICA
The one "good" thing about the demented clown being president is just how absolutely out of the picture and absent the US has been throughout this conflict.
Besides, is that somehow a defense for Russian war crimes? "Obama did it" ain't gonna cut it.

>>20623617
In Afghanistan

>>20618277
*rapes you*
larper nigg

>>20623367
t.Zhang

>>20623666
Die out American chudcel hope Emperor Xi nukes your country to dust.

>>20622836
Obama did that, the Israelis do that (although it's kinda justified since the Palestinians place mortars in them to elicited sympathy which is exactly what the Ukrainians are doing). Plus Biden literally blew up a family of aid workers three months ago in Afghanistan.

>>20623140
Whataboutism isn't helpful

HABME(He always be my emperor)

>>20623919
>It's okay when America does it

>>20623832
>Die out
China has a lower birthrate than Japan while the US is at replacement levels

>>20623889
I don't support America's invasion of Afghanistan, but there's a difference between bombing Taliban with civilians getting caught up as collateral damage and deliberately bombing hospitals

>>20624055
Never said that, nice strawman though

Based fuck imperialists.

>zelensky should apologize over propaganda I was fed!
>putin not apologize so you don't? Fucking hypocrites
>stealing isn't bad if the victim is someone I don't like
Holy shit this pajeet is actually retarded

>>20623832
>the much vaunted Russian army was regarded as one of the few great armies to rival the US
>starts a war with a neighbouring minor power
>gets their teeth kicked in
>the much vaunted Chinese army is regarded as one of the few great armies to rival the US

>>20624138
but there's a difference between bombing Taliban with civilians getting caught up as collateral damage and deliberately bombing hospitals
Ukrops were literally hiding in kindergarten and maternity hospitals so I guess according to you then it's just collateral damage now

>>20624138
Ukranains are using schools and hospitals as rallying points for troops. They are hiding vehicles behind constructions as well.

Also, the Taliban was a guerrila, they had no proper, separate insfrastructure to be bombed. To bomb the Taliban was to bomb the populace, there's no difference. Missiles aren't that precise, and the USA did carpet bomb the country.

>>20623717
I know and i condemn it too. My point is how does this make the atrocities suffred by the Ukrainian people less legitimate How's this not whataboutism

>>20611216
>Tankie
Okay Vaushfag.

Based
Slava Novorossiya

>retarded Russian doesn't know the difference between oligarchy and lobbying
Many such cases

>>20614049

The US is literally a state capitalist country.

>Every industrial society is one form or another of state capitalism. But we’ll use the term “capitalism,” since that is more or less its present meaning.

https://chomsky.info/1991____02/

>>20624407
Who's the invader, retard?

>>20622017

>>20624407
Russia has been bombing schools and hospitals that only have civilians as well
>>20624429
>the Taliban was a guerrila
They did use Taliban, however there were parts of Afghanistan under defacto Taliban rule (during the war) that government forces wouldn't enter

>>20624429
>taliban was guerrilla
Retard
They were the governing body of Afghanistan who hid Osama

>>20624661
They are nazis so its okay /s

>>20624661
The USA in their color revolution with Timoshenko, now shut the fuck up

>>20624918
Evidence, moskal?

>>20624614
The Western world is literally run by around 100 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMotykw0SIk&t=611s

>>20624487
>>20624511
Reminder that you tankies would almost certainly be sent to a gulag if you lived in a commie shithole

>>20624864
Fucking retarded burger, the Pakistani ISI hide Osama for years.

>maybe china bad
>get completely cancelled
>don't change anything about your thinking, leftists are still right

>>20625004
Don't know about Timoshenko, but Victoria Nuland outright admitted to spending billions to bring regime change to Ukraine.

>>20624459
Nothing makes it less legitimate the problem is that this pointless war could have been completely avoided if the United States didn't fund neo Nazis terrorists groups in 2014 to shell Russian minorities in eastern Ukraine, even if Russia loses this type of thing is bound to repeat itself if American foreign policy remains the same, this war ends and Americans start finding Finnish terrorists around the Russian border to kill Russians and then fast foward year later thousands of finns will die? Why? Because of retarded American foreign policy.

>>20624858
There are also Russians and even Jews in Azov, in addition to football hooligans and Neo-Nazis

>>20625008
Why? Not enough credits points for the future Chinese century my friend?

>>20624858
>IS THAT LE HECKIN AZOV BLRUUGHHH
Le heckin de-Nazification. Putin pulled that excuse out of his ass AFTER starting the invasion. Just drop your biolab images now and get it over with.

>>20614049
>>20624615
>"""""State Capitalism"""""

>>20625123
Since 1990s or something to aid a post ussr economy?
Kek you fell for a meme

>>20624879
Jewish led Nazis that want to join the EU and NATO

>>20625007
That's literally 100 times more than "eastern" world.

>>20625126
Even the separatist war wasn't the critical problem. It was the US selling weapons to Ukraine and trying to build NATO bases in the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbj1AR_aAcE

US is a facist country, Biden is a clown paid to act for the masses, US is ruled by a criminal group known as "CIA".

I wonder if this Russian slut does any anti-Russian imperialism activities

>>20625322
Because Russia wants to invade them

>>20624863
Yes, and they had been giving services to the population that the government weren't for years. They had population support, it's a good part of why they took over so easily the second the US troops stopped propping up their favored regime in there.

Doesn't really change the fact the US was bombing the population though. Saying "ah but the US only wanted to bomb the Talliban" is about as valid as claiming the russians only want to bomb the nazis to justify the current shelling of Mariupol.
>>20624864
>imagine being this uninformed about a war your owncountry was participating in

>>20624918
>Muh CIA funded revolution
Maybe the Ukrainian people didn't want a leader that was a puppet of Moscow, ever thought of that, Vatnik?

>>20624615
Corporate welfare is not state capitalism. Le Pol Pot defender's opinion is irrelevant.
>>20625248
>it's not REAL commodity trade when the government does it!
Read a book, retard.

>>20625235
Anyone who has been following the crisis in Ukraine knows they have a serious Neo-Nazi problem since 2014. They have also been sabotaging the diplomatic process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOx6dW_0vU

>>20625313
>Since 1990s or something to aid a post ussr economy?
Aid?

>>20625191
>Chinese century
In your dreams, Chang. China is still mostly a second world country

>>20625422
Nice cope retard

>>20610517
Literally who

>>20610517
The only difference between Fascism and Communism is at least in Fascism some people live well and everybody isn’t starving to death in dilapidated huts and crumbling gray apartment blocs.

The Soviets that entered Germany almost shat themselves when they saw what western life was like.
Move to Cuba or Venezuela if you hate it in the West.

fuck this bitch turning this board into /pol/

>>20625439
>commodity trade = capitalism
Read a dictionary, retard.

>Russia is not trying to take Ukraine
>if they really wanted to they would have won already
Holy shit I'm dying they're mentally retarded

>>20625439
>Pol Pot defender
Reagan and Thatcher were the ones defending the Khmer Rogue. Also what Chomsky said was that the US committed massive atrocities in Cambodia which led to the rise of Pol Pot.

Yes, I too hate NATO imperialism. Glad you agree.

>>20625544
Venezuela is a capitalist country.

>the middle east hmm?
Why are they all like this.

>>20625441
>never once mentioned anything about Nazis throughout the months of troop build up
>full-scale invades Ukraine, shocking even his most ardent supporters
>drops the de-Nazi line
>fast forward 3 weeks
>guys, if you followed this shit since forever, this invasion totes make sense
>oh btw I hate America because it's a warmongering country
>this war makes sense tho

>>20625727
>Venezuela is a capitalist country
Venezuela is a socialist country, and the bad kind of socialist

>>20625416
>Doesn't really change the fact the US was bombing the population though.
True, the US was carpet bombing to try and kill off the Taliban (which is wrong since civilians often were killed by this), however what Russia is doing is targeting random hospitals, apartment buildings and other civilian centers to try and terrorize Ukraine into giving up

>>20610517
Is it weird that I can't immediately tell which side a western progressive is gonna take on this issue

>>20625529
Not an argument, commie

>>20625519
you can see in this chart the moment when the ussr fell and how the aid stopped a downtrend

>Mana threads are just /pol/ colonies
Checkmate jannies

>commie vtuber has more subs than my girl Luna
Fleshtubers literally cannot compete.

>>20625933
Keep choking on that copium chudcel.

Yeah, Estonia is really imperialists

>>20625850
I don't think you quite understand what carpet bombing means. I suggest you look it up. That said, if it was the US in Russia's place the destruction would be way, WAY worse. Because americans historically bomb the infrastructure(aka the cities) to hell and back BEFORE invading.

>>20625954
The Soviet Union fell in 1991. That's when the downward trend started, and it never recovered.

>>20625544
Fascism puts the nation and its people first, it actively tries to make the nation better (although there is heavy censorship and totalitarianism).
Communism however only cares about the communist party. It's an ideology made to destroy the nation, it's culture and it's people. Communism has all the censorship and totalitarianism of Fascism except communism makes the nation worse

>>20625883
They hate Russia, so it's obvious where they fall. But when China invades Taiwan, they'll make excuses for it in the same way Blame America First is making excuses for Russia.

>>20626155
Russia literally can't afford to do that type of bombing

>>20625653
>NATO imperialism
Tell me, how is a defence alliance that nations willingly join an imperialist empire?

>>20626051
>Because americans historically bomb the infrastructure(aka the cities) to hell and back BEFORE invading.
This was the US bombing Syria in 2017. They also bombed the Euphrates Dam which almost collapsed.

>>20626026
>Keep choking on that-ACK!

this is a good stream

>>20626051
Yes, I do understand what carpet bombing means. Read my post again if you don't understand my point

>>20624615
China is state capitalist in that each company is a subsidiary of the Chinese government. The US started out as closer to laissez-faire capitalist but slowly transitioned to mercantilist, which is basically when a government favors a handful of companies by limiting others' ability to compete with them, much like how it was with the UK and the British East India Trading Company or Imperial Japan and the Zaibatsu.

If you ask me, there should be an amendment added to the constitution to establish a separation of corporation and state much like how there is a separation of church and state stating that Congress shall pass no law that will infringe on an individual or a group's right to free trade. The corporations' hold on the US government will crumble to dust and we can finally have a truly free market, dammit!

>>20626062
It recovered better than russia thats for sure

>>20626331
>Transphobic meme to show trans people live rent free in his head
Time to come out of the closet broski, no amount of trade based bronze age redpill is gonna subdue the diva inside, go for it sis!

>>20626405
>China is state capitalist
Stopped reading there. Just because China has reformed their economy doesn't mean they're capitalist. They're still ideologically and politically communist

>>20626457
Anon, you will never be woman
You will join the 41%
Your parents will put your real name on your tombstone
Cope, seethe and dilate

>>20626520
Communism is when there's privately owned corporations, and the more privately owned corporations there are, the communister it is. --Carl Marks

>>20626662
Read my post again

>>20626405
China is not capitalist, they are communist because their entire government is based on Marxist theory, decisions are based on Marxist theory, government officials need to study Marxist theory before taking office and operate upon that theory, that's why they are communist.

Is Ukraine even a real country?

>>20626520
>>20626707
https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinese-state-capitalism
https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Hirson_USCC%20Testimony_FINAL.pdf
http://www.kropfpolisci.com/chinese.state.capitalism.pdf
https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/party-state-capitalism-in-china

>>20613477
The vast, vast majority the US economy exists in the private sector, for the profit of the private sector. The US is also not totalitarian, unless you're a delusional yahoo.

>>20626733
No, they did not exist prior USSR collapse

>>20626397
I *really* doubt you do.
>sure americans carpet bomb but russians target civilian buildings to reduce morale and cause them to capitulate11!
Carpet bombing is to pick a cordinate and drop enough bombs to fuck EVERYTHING inside that general area. Think a square 6 blocks wide. It has nearly no military purpose other than possibly lowering the enemy's war potential by destroying factories. It is more than anything, psychological and economic warfare, and destroys EVERYTHING indiscriminately, schools and hospitals included.

Lithuania is so imperialistic

>>20626614
Anon, you will marry a woman
You will always be a chudcel
Your parents will always be ashamed of their internet Nazi son
Cope, seethe and auto fellate.

>>20626155
You conveniently describe the idealised version of fascism, while turning communism down to the dictators that used it for their own goals. Communism is not Stalin or Mao or rest of the Soviet leadership. And if you still want to argue, the fascism that "cares about its nation" brought only destruction and misery to the main three countries and all around them.

>>20625441
But the problem is the invasion's only going to result in them getting MORE emboldened and politically involved because now they're going to ride the "War Hero" narratives and that's an amazing way to get into political power.
Now if the Ukranians were smart they would have tried to push those people into the meat grinders and let the Russians mulch them.
After all Useful Idiots are only useful until they're not and disposing of them like that always useful

>>20626857
>Anon, you will marry a woman
Kek. Retard

>>20626405
>The US started out as closer to laissez-faire capitalist
No it didn't. It was a slave-owning aristocracy in which power was defined by how much land and slaves you owned. It was always an oligarchy.

>>20626709
Read mine, nigger. At this point the hammer and sickle is nothing more than an icon. Xi's ideology is in no way communist. Communism is the movement to abolish capitalism, not partake it until the end of time.

>>20626456
Ukraine and Russia were some of the countries worst hit by the transition to neoliberal capitalism.

>>20626760
>The vast, vast majority the US economy exists in the private sector
The government is several times larger than any private company.

>>20610517
It's ironic how this woman is a lefty and a good chunk of her viewers seem to be literaly /pol/tards

>>20627192
Anyone else think it’s insane that the Swastika is (rightly) and unacceptable thing to walk around town with on your your shirt.
But purple haired Bernie Bros walk around with the hammer and sickle, Che Guevara, Stalin, Lenin, and Mao on their tee shirts and it’s just cool and trendy?

Mao killed 100,000,000 of his own people bro. He made Hitler look like a joke.

>>20627073
>problem
lmao
>if the Ukranians were smart they would have tried to push those people into the meat grinders and let the Russians mulch them.
Exactly what the jew president is doing, he'd give them in a silver plate to Putin if that wasn't political suicide. If they can hold the cities though he's fucked

>>20627073
The Russians might actually want that. They are not likely gonna take over all of Ukraine, and if the Western half ends up being ruled by Nazis then that would make them look bad.

>>20626614
>Anon, you will never be woman
Not him but it depends on how long it will take for brain transplants to become a thing. I personally plan on having my brain transplanted into a female clone body then gathering a reverse harem that will gangbang me to orgasm repeatedly until I become a catatonic mess twitching about in a puddle of their cum on a nightly basis.

>>20627192
There are no elections in China dude, the government system is completely different
Watch this video:
https://youtu.be/CuEeLO2amA8
Have you have ever seen any western government operating this way? China is Communist.

>>20627205
>00s
It was not work of capitalism, Russia had an anarchy in 00s.

>>20626857
lmao troon cant even shitpost right

>>20626735
China is communist, anon
>>20626793
American carpet bombing killed Taliban, Russians randomly firing missiles at apartment buildings doesn't kill Ukrainian soldiers (I don't support US carpet bombing, I'm simply pointing out that it killed enemy combatants)
>>20626857
The left can't meme
>>20626909
No communist regime has ever been successful, they've all brought sufferings and hardship. Fascist countries losing wars doesn't prove that they were unsuccessful

I'd love for Mana to get a Libyan in the stream and educate him how NATO helping their revolution against Gaddafi is a bad thing

>>20627192
>At this point the hammer and sickle is nothing more than an icon. Xi's ideology is in no way communist.
Is that why chinks are indoctrinated with Marxist Leninism and Chinese socialism?

>>20627527
Or an Iraqi while she forgives saddam

>>20627508
The 2000s was when Putin came to power and the economy recovered because of an oil boom. Russia has been a capitalist oligarchy starting with Yeltsin, who was supported by the Russian oligarchs and the West.

>>20627112
>>20627527
Damm bro all these immigrants after the Libya coup really prove it was successful zamm...

>>20627527
>Libya
Yeah I love Libyans love the country being a failed states where they sell black slaves in open markets.

>>20627113
The problem is that the entire ultra rich slave owners perpetuating an oligarchy (and ensuring that slave owners would have a disproportionate amount of power) is one those things that goes against the National Myth of the founding of the country and Americans very much buy into such myths about their past and more importantly the National Myth tends to very much whitewash history and try and keep up the belief that the lower classes could rise to power against the pre-established rich.
After all the great myth of the "American Dream" ties into the idea that the poor are poor not because of an exploitative system aiming to keep the lower class in check but because they're "lazy"

>>20627601
Iraqi here, Saddam was based though.

>>20627651
Wanna know who was bombing the revolutionaries? A certain cold and big country

>>20627317
Well yeah, of course they spend and receive more (since they skim off of the private sector and print money from thin air), I meant where and for whom people actually work.

>>20627514
>Russians randomly firing missiles at apartment buildings doesn't kill Ukrainian soldiers
They are using schools(including preschools) to rally. Also they are fighting a guerrila warfare as well in both occupied territories and the contested cities, especially Mariupol.

Also your point is utterly retarded. To expand on it, would it be ok to nuke Kiev then, since that'd rid the city of the ukranian military?

>>20627720
>Yeah I love
Yeah I bet*

>>20627651
Libyan mass immigration is the fault of the EU having near non existent immigration laws

>>20627738
>Iraqi here
I don't believe you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbtWCWWsCVc watch her better half instead

>>20627601

Saddam was a CIA asset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAlSNiFpTc

>>20627494
Communism is the economic model, not the governmental system though under Communism the government is in direct control of the economy.

China is certainly authoritarian but it does not have to be Communist in order to be so. If the fact that China doesn't have elections makes it Communist then that would mean any absolute monarchy would be Communist as well since, to quote Monty Python, "You don't vote for kings."

>>20627720
You don't know shit about Libya. They had an an election and things worked for a while then another military dictator proped up by UAE started a civil war just like Egypt.
How's NATO supposed to foresee this while stopping Gaddafi from genociding his people?

>>20610517
Fucking cringe, mods are stopping all comments calling out the whores

>>20627112
>>20627507
>>20627514
Trans rights!
Trans rights!
Trans rights!

>>20627514
> Russians randomly firing missiles at apartment buildings doesn't kill Ukrainian soldiers
First picture is Ukrainian soldiers sleeping in kindergarten

>>20627767
>They are using schools(including preschools) to rally
Okay, and? It's their country
>would it be ok to nuke Kiev then, since that'd rid the city of the ukranian military?
I think you missed the part of my post were I said I opposed carpet bombing. Perhaps you should learn to read properly

>>20610517
>Subscribers-only mode.
lol

>>20628042
Libya has been at war for years thanks to the NATO bombing campaign. It's a total failed state.

When Gaddafi was in power Libya was the most prosperous country in Africa.

>>20628004
This is like the skyrim posting about ulfric being an uncooperative asset to the thalmor

>20628056
too obvious, no (You)

>>20628055
Nice cherrypicking, has nothing to do with the multiple videos of destroyed Ukrainian civilian apartments though
>>20628056
Rights to do what? Force kids to cut their dicks off?

/pol/chuds really raiding her in anger lol, based queen slay! Make these chuds!

>>20628231
>This is like the skyrim posting about ulfric being an uncooperative asset to the thalmor
Well that happens all the time with US assets.

>>20628332
It literally doesn't matter

>>20628309
(You)

>>20628309
Seethe! Hell yeah sis.

>>20628115
>Okay, and? It's their country
Sure. You don't get to complain if you take a RPG shot to your apartment window when you're shooting from it though.
>I think you missed the part of my post were I said I opposed carpet bombing.
You keep justifying it saying "hurr durr at least it's killing combatants". I'm underlining how idiot the idea is.
Pick, you faggot:
>civilian damage is justifiable to kill combatants/drop morale, in which case you shouldn't be complaining about Russia's tactics
>civilian damage isn't justifiable to kill combatants/drop morale, in which case the US does way worse in the average conflict

>>20610517
the fuck is this shit doing here

>>20628056

American here, there's nothing wrong with bombing savage brown people, Russians are evil because they are bombing fellow members of the white race.

I can't condone the invasion of Ukraine but as someome who lives in a formerly communist and now NATO/EU country I get why the Donbass separatist movement was so determined to secede. The West is just another oligarchic oppressor. At least when Putin oppresses you he doesn't force tranny shit on your children.

That being said, what the pajeet chick is saying is mainly true but I don't think chuubas are knowledgeable enough about the field of geopolitics to be doing dedicated streams about it. I think Mana Renewal (that Russian chuuba) had the best take on it, namely that it's a horrible tragedy that never should have happened and that some of the actions on both sides cannot be condoned at all.

>>20628502
Legal stealth /pol/ thread.

>>20627580
If they were communists then they wouldn't be MLs. Communism died with Lenin.

>>20628559
>American here
>fellow members of the white race.

NATO bad... NATO BAD... OKAY?

>>20617783
Yes. But live in Malaysia.

>>20628499
>You don't get to complain if you take a RPG shot to your apartment window when you're shooting from it though.
Except that's not what's happening, random civilians are having their apartments bombed for no reason
>You keep justifying it
I'm not justifying it, I'm pointing out that it makes sense from a strategic perspective

>>20628207
NATO bombed Gaddafi and left. Now it's a proxy war between Qatar and UAE.

>>20628573
I heard Indians are very supporting of Russia right now.

Russian shills, just take your novichok pill and go to bed.

>>20628629
>he fell for the communism =/= socialism meme

>>20628295
>multiple videos of destroyed Ukrainian civilian apartments though
Some of them were destroyed by Ukrainians themselves, like Mariupol or that apartment building hit by anti-air missile.
There are also multiple examples of Ukrs using schools as cover like >>20627767 for example.

>>20628559
You will never be white

Just what I needed, a woman's opinions on politics. Even better, a vtuber.

>>20628629
>Marxist Leninism and communism are totally different bro trust me
They're the same

>>20628817
What can i say it is entertaining

>>20628881
Do tell me all about how the USSR and China abolished commodity production. Go on, I can wait.

How did the left get so subverted they've started hating everyone that doesn't simp for garbage realpolitik shit from the 80's

>>20628762
It's a total clusterfuck thanks to NATO turning Libya into a failed state.

>>20628881
>>20628953
Wait, I'll be even more generous. Tell me about how they even took basic steps to begin abolishing commodity production.

>>20628722
>apartments bombed for no reason
https://twitter.com/Worldsource24/status/1504805699154595840
Turns out combatants using guerrilla tactics can do something as simple as firing from apartament buildings. Who knew?
For the record, your argument is that answering the situationof the video above with this >>20626259 "makes sense froma strategic perspective".

>>20628881
Not really, you are a chudcel, Marxism Leninsm is a intermediate type of government with the aim of achieving communism, but they were wrong because they were authoritarian, however anarchists have it figured that communism can only be achieved though democracy, peace and understanding, read theory.

>>20628799
>Twitter screenshot
>Cherrypicking one picture of Ukrainian soldiers using a school as a base
>"Urrrrr ackshually the Ukrainians are bombing there own buildings, don't think about it"
The absolute state of tankies/vatniks

>>20628953
>>20629027
>Nooooooooooooooooooo that wasn't real communism!1!1!1
Kek

This girls so stupid

>>20629025
NATO didn't start the spring revolution and if they didn't intervene a lot of innocent people would've been murdered by Gaddafi

>>20629066
>Azov known terrorist unit that killed Russians minorities and even Ukrainians would never do such travesty!

>I am an indie whore

>>20629049
>Source: twitter
You're not trying anymore, are you?

>>20629153
You don't understand i can save her

>>20623919
>Whataboutism

>>20629061
Commies read Marx, anti-communists understand Marx. You seen to be the former

>>20629156
I guess endless war is better somehow.

>>20629195
Lmao you throughly embarassed yourself and now that's all you have left.

>>20629066
>MUH cherrypicking
There are tons of videos. Go to /pol/.

>>20629275
Do you know what communism means?

>>20629275
>We just know better cuz we know commie bad fascism good
No use arguing you are always gonna be a racist fascist

>>20629183
>Azov
>Terrorists
They're a regiment of the Ukrainian Army
>Killed Russian minorities
Literally the bullshit narrative Putin pulled out of his ass to justify the invasion. Azov is killing Russian backed communist separatists in Donbas. Azov even has ethnically Russian soldiers ffs

Sorry tankies but you have to be 18 and over to post on 4channel dot org

>>20629309
Do you think if the US didn't exist Libya wouldn't be war torn? Why are American deranged people so naive.

>>20629228
Woah you sure showed me!

>>20629309
You can say that because you have the benefit of hindsight but in the heat of the moment it was obvious that ghaddafi needed to go

>>20629124
>Oh, the nigerian from nigeria isn't a scotsman? No true scotsman!!!!1!
I accept your concession.
>>20629275
How can anti-communists understand Marx when anti-communists don't read Marx in the first place?

I wish I could drop these sluts into the middle of Donbas so they can tell their Russian rapists how it's NATO's fault they're going to get STDs

>>20629458

The US actually wasn't the one pushing the war in Libya, according to Clinton leaks it was France and the UK who wanted Libyan oil for cheap.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12900

Also we still don't know what happened to all the Libyan gold reserves.

>>20629432
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Donetsk,_Russia

>>20629310
Says the faggot using cherrypicked twitter posts as an argument
>>20629361
/pol/ supports the Russian invasion
>>20629378
Yes. Do you?
>>20629393
Funny how your kind always think anyone anti-communist is Fascist, it's honestly pathetic. You even made the baseless accusation that I'm racist. Why not just call me a Nazi and make it a day?

>>20629432
They literally have a Nazi sign in their flag.

Good stream, good thread.
See you guys next time!

I think we can all agree, we're all dumber and worse off for having to sit through that

Im not racist BUT GOD I HATE INDIANS NOW

>>20628770
because they'd fucking LOVE to do the same to parts of Pakistan and get away with it
unluckily for them, Pakis have nukes too, something Ukraine let go off so they're now getting fucked with for free

>>20629675
>Yes, Do you?
No you don't there never has been a communist state, only socialist ones, you don't need to even read the entire book to know this one.

>>20629617
>>Oh, the nigerian from nigeria isn't a scotsman? No true scotsman!!!!1!
Strawman argument
>I accept your concession
I can tell you're a redditor. Why not back there, go get some updoots from your fellow troons
>How can anti-communists understand Marx when anti-communists don't read Marx in the first place?
By researching the objective reality of live inside communist countries

>>20629675
>/pol/ supports the Russian invasion
/pol/ supports the truth, if you think they support Russians it's because you live in a lie.

>>20629810
As an Indian I give you the pajeet pass
>Indian guy in chat calls out her defeatist blame game garbage
>lowkey rayciss ban him
Indians are the worst

>>20629675
>ignoring literal video evidence
Good job being the sterotypical ignorant burger. btw you just proved you haven't stepped into /pol/ for over 30min the last two weeks.

You have to go back

>>20629561
No it wasn't, the West was making shit up to push war, like usual.

>>20629432
>believing anything either side says
>giving a shit about a conflict that has no impact on your day-to-day life
Your mind has been heavily compromised by propaganda.

>>20629662
>Nooooooooooooooooooo you can't just shell commie terrorists!1!1!1
What's your point?
>>20629714
And?

>>20629912
>Libya
>middle east
This guy doesn't even know basic geography

>>20629675
>Yes. Do you?
Define it then.

>>20629156
The CIA was behind it actually.
So technically NATO did start it.

>>20629828
>Using the "nooooooooooooooooooo that wasn't real communism" argument again
Let me guess, you would achieve "real communism." Everyone else in history that has tried has failed, but you would be able to pull it off, right?

Wholesome Azov battalion who fight for democracy, freedom and Funko pops.

>>20630053
based

>>20629983

>>20630007
The CIA are simultaneously extremely brutal and efficient, but also can't cover their tracks at all according to niggers

>>20626405
How can you have a profit-driven free market when controlling the market is a way to massive amounts of profit? It's a system that aims towards its own destruction, and fair competition is a joke given that accumulating wealth makes it easier to get even more of it.

You're just replacing the government's influence on the economy with monopolies or oligopolies. Systems will always slide into authoritarianism unless it is actively opposed, in governments and the economy.

>>20629881
/pol/ does support the Russians
>>20629909
I'm not American, I was on /pol/ yesterday and cherrypicking videos isn't an argument. Cope, seethe and dilate

>>20630076
China is the middle east

>>20629912
Bro thousands of unarmed protestors were killed entire tribes and villages disappeared tanks and jets were deployed against civilians way before NATO intervention

>>20630040
Yes they were wrong because they were authoritarian, we anarchists have it right though, they can achieve peace though democracy and freedom, ending racism, transphobia and misogyny are the first steps for it.

>>20629675
>/pol/ supports the Russian invasion
No, /pol/ hates media lies which Ukraine propaganda is full of it.

>>20630087
Pretty much, yes. Remember Iran-Contra? They get caught all the bloody time.

>>20629922
Who says I give a shit about the conflict?
>>20630004
I'm not spoonfeeding you, tankie tranny

>>20629927
They shelled innocents you retard hope NATO bombs your house and some other dumbass like you calls you a commie.

>>20630203
Yeah it's not just blaming the CIA for everything because people are conditioned to accept that after the cold war, even though the CIA is a toothless house cat now

>>20630167
Go back to r*ddit
>>20630199
Look at /chug/ and tell me /pol/ doesn't support Russia

>>20630163
Yeah they also had WMDs just like Saddam.

>>20630087
They usually release this info after enough time has passed or have whistleblowers do it for them. You can finda lot of shit about previous operations in the mainstream, here an article about one of CIA's from the 50's https://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/3/stephen_kinzer_on_the_us_iranian

>>20629881
>>20630199
Functionally the same.
Intention doesn't matter if the overall result is you supporting the actions taken just the same.

>>20630280
>Yeah it's not just blaming the CIA for everything

Yeah that's pretty easy.

Also the CIA doesn't exist anymore somehow.

>>20630280
>CIA good now because they said they good
Yeah bro of course why not throw away all our power for nothing.

>>20630053
>USA are also nazis because 2 incestuous retards in bumfuck Nebraska have a flag

>>20630239
>They shelled innocents
No, they shelled terrorists funded by Russia. It makes literally no sense for Ukraine to shell their own people
>hope NATO bombs your house and some other dumbass like you calls you a commie
I mean, I live in a NATO country so...

>>20630299
Chudcel, anarchism will win.

>>20630417
>USA are also nazis
Yes, ACAB.

>>20630385
>>20630392
Retards who don't know anything about the intelligence agency
If the CIA was still the machine of the 80's, what happened to all those Chinese informants wouldn't have turned out with the complete cessation of CIA activities in China

>I believe in conspiracies without facts when it supports me
>I shit on conspiracies without facts when they don't support me

>>20630472
Go drink your söylent and go to bed

>>20630599
Die out chudcel straggot.

>>20630130
I gave you an out to justify your stupidity anon,you should have taken it.
>perfect counterexample to your stupid argument
>cherrypicking
I'm sure that is the only place in the whole country where armed opposition is using civilian buldings, anon. A unlikely as that is, it must be true because the alternative is that you're wrong on the internet. And we both know that's impossibru!

>>20630299
Look at /uhg/ and tell me /pol/ doesn't support Ukraine
Dumbass. It is like saying /vt/ loves vshojo because it has vshojo general in it.

>>20626155
Fascism, capitalist "democracy" or communism, it's always an elite making bank and pushing their agenda while espousing ideals to placate the people. Sometimes the economy benefits as well, but it's ultimately roughly the same authoritarianism.
The free market, the two class system and the nation are all myths to make suckers kneel before people who want to control them.

>>20630417
The US deep state has always been sympathetic to Nazis.

>>20625441
Neo Nazi's don't exist

>>20630577
China is a authoritarian CIA asset though, they have no reasons to make moves against China, because they sabotaged communism to stop us anarchists.

>>20630778
>China is a authoritarian CIA asset
Based schizo

>>20630577
>what happened to all those Chinese informants wouldn't have turned out with the complete cessation of CIA activities in China
That's just pure cope. The CIA just became increasingly corrupt and incompetent after they took over the US government in 63.

>>20628295
>Rights to do what? Force kids to cut their dicks off?
isnt that just what Christian and other religions do anyway to babies?
thats legal but god forbid someone gets surgery to feel better about themselves

>>20630674
>Look at /uhg/
That's the fake thread created by glowies. The original /ug/ turned into /sg/ and later /gpg/.

>>20630861
CIA and KGB at their peak would have the modern world under their heel within a month

>>20630317
I mean dudes like you saw Sandy Hook happening in their own backyard and still fell for the crisis actors conspiracy theories so why should I be surprised that you think this way about an incident happening thousands of miles away.

>>20630980
Intelligence agencies were never THAT competent. They make heavy use of local agents and preexistent political blocs willing to make risky power plays.

>>20630980
Gestapo were the real deal. Churchill said that Stalin's Great Purge was in response to the Nazis tried to do a coup against him. He crippled the entire Soviet leadership and bureaucracy out of pure fear of the Germans.

>>20631190
Stallin ascended to power through backstabbing politics. There's was no need for any external threat for him to fear for his fucking life in that enviroinment.

She might a whore but she's My whore gaddamit

>>20626614
its 50% now

>>20630087
most normies are allergic to reading
for those who aren't, here's something to ponder -
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00845R000100170004-5.pdf
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf

>>20629845
>pointing out a false claim of muh no true scotsman is a strawman
Learn what words mean you retarded rightoid.
>hurr durr tranny this tranny that
dilate
>researching the objective reality of live [sic] inside countries that don't exist
ok

>>20632242
all yours, my nigga

>>20629458
Well yeah, without NATO it would have been an easily put down rebellion that lasted a week or month.

>>20627205
I don't know why you cut the graph of at 2007, Russian male life expectancy is 68.2 now according to wiki.

Tankies are based. Chuds and succdems cope and seethe eternally.