/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>20574760
I like this one

>>20579913
They look very cool!

Ah, peace

>>20579913
In terms of swag(or do the kids use drip?)
Mermaid Man > TMSK > Pikamee >>> I forgot this one existed

>yagoo shilling males again
he's got to be a faggot, right?

>>20580631
He is a businessman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9EjmQhliY

>>20580631
if he doesn't... who will?

>>20581266

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>105,716: Hololive (Hololive)
>83,363: Hololive (Hololive)
>29,757: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>21,877: Holostars (Hololive)
>21,374: Miko (Hololive)
>21,180: Chloe (Hololive)
>20,925: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,657: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,208: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,750: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,370: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,129: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,990: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,792: Ange (Nijisanji)

>>20581921

>>20581921

>>20581921
>Holostars getting 4th place
That's why Yagoo has to shill them, because everyone gets a piece of that pie in HoloPro.

Got a source for initial numbers for items in the the hololive shop with limited stock. MANGART BEAMS T-shirt initial stock was low but could not get numbers.
Weiβ Schwarz Premium Booster : hololive production 15411 $32.00 $493,152.00
Tote Bag 2022 (Sold Out) 260 $32.00 $8,320.00
Messenger Bag 2022 (Sold Out) 215 $20.00 $4,300.00
Logo Cushion 2022 (Sold Out) 65 $20.00 $1,300.00
Windbreaker (Sold Out) 140 $77.00 $10,780.00
hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Green) 152 $63.00 $9,576.00
hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Blue) 249 $63.00 $15,687.00
hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Penlight (Sold Out) 756 $32.00 $24,192.00
hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Rubber Wristband (Sold Out) 345 $7.00 $2,415.00
hololive SARASA Clip Ballpoint Pen Set (5 colors) (Sold Out) 1000 $8.00 $8,000.00
$577,722.00

Poor guy
https://twitter.com/garden_hololive/status/1505165225590362116

>>20581921

>>20582574
yagoo buff

>>20582654
kek

any numbers on the ticket buy? I know we won't know the final number for awhile but any estimates?

>>20582635
>Weiβ Schwarz Premium Booster : hololive production 15411 $32.00 $493,152.00
JESUS

Cover seems to be making a lot of correct choices lately while Anykara has been having more questionable decisions. Is this the down side of having such a young CEO?

Virgin Trash Taste

Vs.

Chad Cover selling a Gura lifesize sculpture

>>20581921
Hololive 6
Nijisanji 8

A rare win for Nijisanji but the G and S go to hololive. a 6-4 split in the top ten isn't bad.

A short list for a Saturday however.

>>20582635
>Tote Bag 2022 (Sold Out) 260 $32.00 $8,320.00
>Messenger Bag 2022 (Sold Out) 215 $20.00 $4,300.00
>Logo Cushion 2022 (Sold Out) 65 $20.00 $1,300.00
>Windbreaker (Sold Out) 140 $77.00 $10,780.00
>hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Green) 152 $63.00 $9,576.00
>hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Blue) 249 $63.00 $15,687.00
>hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Penlight (Sold Out) 756 $32.00 $24,192.00
>hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Rubber Wristband (Sold Out) 345 $7.00 $2,415.00
>hololive SARASA Clip Ballpoint Pen Set (5 colors) (Sold Out) 1000 $8.00 $8,000.00
Is it really that low of a stock? Oh you can't get accurate numbers.

>Weiβ Schwarz Premium Booster : hololive production 15411 $32.00 $493,152.00
Bandai eating good, Konami who?

>>20582635
I just assume anything with limited production will get sold out.
>$577k
Seems low unless the food and event tickets made a lot.

>>20582635
those stock numbers seem very low

>>20581921
>105,716: Hololive (Hololive)
A-chan it is then.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>15,187: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,302: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,194: Luca (Nijisanji)
>9,975: Shu (Nijisanji)
>9,681: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>6,722: Ike (Nijisanji)

>>20582762
anon, that's just plain sad

>>20582635
>63 dollar hat
Are these American dollars

>>20582959
>Seems low
15k cards were sold at $32. Is your numberrot catching up? Plus, it only accounts for day 1 sales.

>>20582945
Yeah the stock was that low based on the source I found.

This is just stock on the online store. does not include the ones on the expo itself and geekjack

>>20582990
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)
7. IRyS (Hololive) - 20,211 (Birthday party and Totsu)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 17,364 (Project Diva Mega Mix)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,491 (We Were Here w/Ike)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 19,133 (Ring Fit Adventure)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 16,530 (Unarchived Karaoke)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 16,109 (Elden Ring)
13. Mumei (Hololive) - 24,090 (UNO w/Gura, Ina, and Baelz)
14. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,202 (Birthday party and Totsu)
15. Mumei (Hololive) - 8,939 (Doom Eternal)
16. Ina (Hololive) - 14,467 (Elden Ring)
17. Kiara (Hololive) - 27,020 (3DVR Dance School w/Gura, Amelia, Ina, and Mori)
18. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 33,386 (300k Karaoke Celebration)
19. Kiara (Hololive) - 15,157 (HoloFes Day 1 Watchalong)

Hololive - 15
Nijisanji - 4
Others - 0

>>20582837
Idols have already paved the way for this shit for decades. Holding big events always brings out people wanting to cheer on the girl they like and support them with goods.
Yagoo is a fan of akb48 and he's seen them do this for years. Now he is applying that to the vtubing market.
Being able to make good decisions because you've seen people before you make good decisions is a likely outcome.
Meanwhile niji is run by a clout chaser.

>>20582945
>Weiss
>Bandai
You absolute nigger faggot.
It's Bushiroad you twat

>>20582990
The whole armada of Luxiem can't beat Kiara in a random every day watchalong kek

>>20582635
Do you have the number for the card sleeves?

>>20583002
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_superexpo2022_nec?variant=42675870793948

>>20583009
When I think of holo merch I think of 7 figures. Miko was heading that way and Pekora got there. Surely Holofes is worth more than Miko or Pekora.

Should Anykara make Vox and Mysta themed dildo to fight against Gura statue?

>>20583042
Their names were too similar, Bushiroad is hard to remember so I got it mixed up kek.

>>20583057
All other products have "Unlimited" stock so I don't have nombers for those as the previous way was fixed.

>>20582990
kys

>>20583075
Probably more than $10M+ in revenue, $2M+ in profits

>>20582635
Those are some nice numbers you got there, but why you don't post your source?

>>20581921
A-chan merch when?

am i the only one with mixed feelings about this shows? for the people attending I bet it was phenomenal but for a guy watching it from a monitor it doesn't make sense, it just felt like an ordinary everyday 3d show, it would be cool if we had the chance to switch cameras and things like that to make it worthwhile, it was cool regardless but I'm not paying for another show if they don't implement things for the people at home

>>20582945
It's for the online store so I think it's safe to assume that they sold most of the stocks at the expo itself.

>>20583130
How many tree fiddy is that?

>>20582990
>>20583029
kys

>>20583104
I looked into that. It clearly looks like it was hot fixed in an hour. No way around it though. Really rustles my jimbobs.

Everyday I think of the possibilities that Cover could make a huge profit like FGO if they made a gacha game with a fair gacha system and gameplay, kinda like Azur lane or Arknights. Cygames should just propose that idea to Yagoo and have them collaborate.

>>20579913
I really love gyari's designs. Dude got kino taste

>>20582959
That's the number for Hololive online shop anon. There is no way to calculate how much they get from merch that they sold at the venue.

>>20583152
https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololive-summerfes-acrylic-figure?variant=40465320050885

>>20580631
He is unironically very close with the homos. They probably go drinks every other day

>>20583244
So we have 1 of 3 stores reporting $577k in sales off of only limited goods? Barely a fraction then.

Vshojo and Anykara got millions invested by major corpos. Why hasn't Cover got one?

>>20583316
they don't need it

>>20583024
>>20582945
>>20582635
The numbers on those stocks really make me seethe hard. Just why goddamit!!!?? For once i hope they are like niji and spam that shit while the iron is hot!

>>20581921
>MARCH 2022 GOLD
1) Botan (Hololive) - 38,974 - Vampire Survivors
2) Nene (Hololive) - 91,087 - Birthday 3D Live
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,971 - ARK Collab
4) Roboco (Hololive) - 52,777 - Anniversary 3D Live
5) Miko (Hololive) - 125,971 - Birthday 3D Live
6) Hayase (Nijisanji) - 72,274 - 3D Debut
7) Miko (Hololive) - 49,481 - Horse Gacha
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,347 - Karaoke
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,779 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 35,477 - Valorant custom
11) Sukoya (Nijisanji) - 35,475 - Return stream (3D)
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,894 - Return zatsu
13) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,854 - NePoLaBo idol outfits
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,843 - Pekozon
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 42,762 - Birthday totsu
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,166 - Vampire Survivors
17) Marine (Hololive) - 45,275 - Vampire Survivors
18) Hal (Neo Porte) - 114,763 . VSayko announcement
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 105,716 . Hololive 3rd Fes day 1


TOTAL GOLD SO FAR
> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Miko, Subaru, Hololive
1x: Suisei, Roboco, Hayase, Kuzuha, Sukoya, Botan, Nene, Koyori, Marine, Hal

>>20583316
>Vshojo and Anykara took out a lot of debt and obligations from other companies just looking to make a profit

>>20582989
Source?

>>20583154
I feel the same which is why I didn't buy, although some concerts have these full feature suites for digital buys a lot don't even in traditional music because they want to drive up the value of going in person. Though I think if a high quality virtual ticket is coming it will def be vtubers as is Yagoo's goal he stated repeatedly.

>>20583401
No Elden Ring gold yet.

>>20581921
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY*

Here it goes
>105,716: Hololive (Hololive)
>83,363: Hololive (Hololive)
>29,757: Sasaki (Nipplesanji)
>21,877: Holostars (Hololive)
>21,374: Miko (Hololive)
>21,180: Chloe (Hololive)
>20,925: Kuzuha (Nipplesanji)
>18,657: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,208: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,750: Fuwa (Nipplesanji)
>14,370: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>12,129: NijiNigger (Nijisanji)
>11,990: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,792: Ange (Nipplesanji)

>>20582990
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

Here it goes
>15,187: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,302: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>12,194: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>9,975: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>9,681: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>6,722: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)

>>20583488
>>20583544
Based

>>20581921

>>20583343
Business wise, they absolutely should unless they are in a position where they have too many cash to know what to do with. Everyone has a price, they should raise as much fund as they can without losing majority shares and start making big moves while they are ahead

>>20583376
Maybe most of the stock is in the expo?

>>20583439
https://kemono.party/fanbox/user/4570183/post/3536495

>>20583488
>>20583544
Stay alive

>>20583488
>>20583544
I missed the nipplegate but goddamn.

>>20583615
>they are in a position where they have too many cash to know what to do with
and that's exactly their position.

>>20583615
>unless they are in a position where they have too many cash to know what to do with
That is exactly why they went on an insane hiring spree last year.

>>20581921

>320k views in 10 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5uW0YLbgzw

She can't keep getting away with it. She can't keep going viral even when you can't clip her parts.

>>20583401
Stay alive

>>20583316
That's actually a good thing for cover. Their biggest investors so far are still private investors so they can bank most of their profits into their own pocket for expansion and stuff. Having investor is nice and all when you just started and you have big vision in mind. Thank god yagoo wasnt so ambitious so cover could built their warchest early (although still small for corpo standard) without outsider's hand got too much involved on their path.
Cover/Hololive right now is walking that ideal path with many sponsors/collaborator without a single major investor to held them back

>>20583615
>unless they are in a position where they have too many cash to know what to do with
Anon....

>>20583474
Which is honestly surprising considering how that game gets big numbers every time someone plays it

>>20583723
Vampire Survivors is just more buff

>>20581921
A-chan it is

>>20583617
I know but dammit! Make more money!

>>20581921
>>20583756

>>20583041
>>20582837
Exactly COVER isn't breaking new ground they're sticking pretty closely to established Japanese playbooks.

>>20583712
>a single major investor to held them back
Could this be the reason why they get a lot of sponsorships from various companies? It's because they aren't owned by another company? I've heard of companies who wouldn't do business with others cause their parent companies or board of directors tell them not to.

>>20581921
>>20583799

>>20582990
>>20583029
kys

>>20581921
>>20583835

>>20581921
>>20583878

>>20582990
>>20583029
Stay alive

>>20583811
Idk about that but the sponsors most likely just saw their numbers and huge increase of popularity these past 2years and sponsored them. Since the curry meshi shill, every single sponsor/collab they did have been huge success

EN 3 will not save HoloEN. even if they're better than Council. the "aura" is gone. Council's failure to live up to Myth (and changes in the wider vtuber landscape) have shattered the impression of quality the latter built and decreased the hype.

>>20581921

>>20581921
>>20583912

>>20583937
>EN 3 will not save HoloEN. even if they're better than Council. the "aura" is gone. Council's failure to live up to Myth (and changes in the wider vtuber landscape) have shattered the impression of quality the latter built and decreased the hype.

>>20581921
>>20583963

>>20581921
>>20581921

>>20583641
>>20583668
>>20583718
Well they should get someone who does then. This just sounds they're either lacking vision or their risk/opportunity assessment process is wildly inefficient

>>20582881
literal clowns

>>20581921
>>20583999

EN 3 will not save HoloEN. even if they're better than Council. the "aura" is gone. Council's failure to live up to Myth (and changes in the wider vtuber landscape) have shattered the impression of quality the latter built and decreased the hype.

>>20583937
BEGONE!!!

>>20584021
nigger you don't even know about their situation before we told you, fuck off

>>20583937
What amuses me about these stupid predictions is that Hololive basically struggled in midgetry before JP gen 4.

>>20581921
>>20584045

>>20583679
This is the power of gura

>>20582428
>>20582679
Will Moona see a numbers bump after Holofes?

>>20584055
Amazing, anon. I love it

>>20581921
>>20584082

>>20581921
>>20581921
>>20581921

>>20581921
>>20584125

>>20581921

>>20583932
Cover has ridiculous engagement for the size of the company and probably at any time could have called up a big daddy tech company and gotten infinite cash but Yagoo and the private investors are betting the farm in an attempt to keep the winnings themselves and be on the ground floor of a staple entertainment company.

>>20584055
I'm so glad that Fubuki and Okayu got her into Hololive.

>>20581921
>>20584163

>>20583937
All they have to do is stream when others doesn't, that's all, they don't need to live up to myth just be better than council, which honestly, is not that hard.

>>20583937

>>20581921
>>20584209
I absolutely LOVE how A-chan has so many lewds.
last one from me

>>20581921

>>20584055
>>20584047
>>20584081
>>20584205
>>20584212
>>20584237
respond to the non-deleted version: >>20584047

>>20584288
no

I wasn't even responding to the original bait.

>>20582881
Weaklings.
Check this if you want real numbers.
https://zevent.gdoc.fr/statistics/

Peak of more than 1 millions viewer across all streams, more than 10 millions dollar.
This is real numbers.

>>20582635
I'm still mad that the pens were jp-only. Fucking pens.

>>20583932
Success snowballs into more success.
They might get more/bigger sponsorship opportunities as a result of Holofes (since at the end of the day, it's a good way for Cover to flex their popularity).

>>20584081
>>20584055
look, I had to post that prediction before they actually announced them, it's just unfortunate that there's a lot of Nijiseethe around right now.

>>20583316
Cover raised millions in the past. I'm guessing the business makes enough money at this point that they don't see the need to raise more and dilute their current investors.
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cover-corporation/company_financials..

They have 90+ open jobs so it is not like they are struggling for money.
https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs

>>20584350
It's also the fourth edition of an established event gathering all the biggest french streamer. It's a totally different scale

>>20584183
For all the bullshit I've given them about their game development it is a decent idea from a business perspective. Diversifying into another product type that they also can promote with their vtubers is good. But for it to work and last past the first game they need to deliver something playable, not perfect and not even a great game, just playable to the point were buyers can accept it as a first attempt but yet buy the next game if they release that.

>>20584446
This concert and merch run is going to count towards their financials isn't it?
The fiscal year ends at the end of the month.

>>20584446
>90+
For what? Game development?

Curious what the Gura statue is gonna end up selling for.

5k? 10k? 20k?

Is Council really not doing as well as Cover expected if they were the first to sell out? Even if they understocked that means they had a set expectation for them and it got succeeded, no?

>>20582635
thank you merchanon

>>20584446
Usually you do raises if you need to expand and pump growth. Cover have just expanded heavily and are probably in a "short" consolidation phase before they would push for more expansion.

>>20584551
They now expect less of them, clearly.

>>20584503
All they have to do is have some sort of fan to member engagement built into the game and it will be successful, whenever they talked about the project they hinted that as the goal but obviously with what they've shown it will at least be a year before we see anything.

>>20584604
I recall yagoo said they wanted to make cosmetics the main way they make money off that game.

>>20584542
more than 100 million yens

>>20584542
There are a few big twitch streamers who are chumbuds and I could see bidding it up for content. Not to mention any hidden oil barons.

>>20584650
I keep seeing this number. Isn't it just pulled out of a JP journos ass because he saw wesern shitposts about wanting to big a million dollars on it?

>>20584661
Sodapoppin gonna get it

>>20582654
eh, looks like he got an opportunity to come to his senses...

>>20584686
>shitpost
I was not shitpost, an anon really has the money for it, too bad it will be JP only.

>>20584770
>too bad it will be JP only.
Huh? That makes no fucking sense, why would they not let Gura's biggest paypigs into the auction. Its not like they don't sell shit overseas. Source?

>>20583154
eh, it was fun watching Miku's AR tech used for hololive, and Moona, Doog and Gura's 3D performances made it worth it imo.
Obviously the best experience is for those on site.

>>20584695
Nah... pewdiepie will get it first

>>20584695
>sodapoppin buys gura statue
>viebe: wtf, am I not enough?

>>20582654
>>20584762
This guy is a real life version of the "I've been in a coma for 3 months, can't wait to watch x" shit post, lmao.

As for me? I just got back from an overseas business trip and I've been away for 2 months. I can't wait to watch my favorite vtuber Lauren Iroas! He was inclining quite nicely before I left. Can't wait to see where he is now!

>>20584580
They do the right thing by taking things slow. They are well aware of their success was due to luck and they are trying their best to not wasted those luck by being overly ambitious.
As someone who also run a bussiness, i really like this approach. It's always better to making use of your available resources and built/expand your bussiness slowly then to take a gamble with a major loan from banks.

>>20585023
Anon... you might want to sit down for this...

>>20585023
Kek

>>20585081
I agree, better to play it safer then to bite of more then you can chew.

>>20583236
don't think cygames will dilute their ip like that though, but they could be more than open to collabs, I'm sure an EN shadowverse collab would be bonkers.

>>20585023
You are in for a treat anon. The amazing success he has seen since you've been gone would make your nipples hard.

>>20585023
Ok stop shitposting, there's no way you wouldn't know about Lauren.
Now time for me to catch my favorite Knockdicks male, Yugo.

>>20585239
I.. I want them as princess connect re:dive unit desu

>>20584021
>This just sounds they're either lacking vision or their risk/opportunity assessment process is wildly inefficient
Sounds like a lot of bullshit coming outta your mouth.

>>20583236
Instead of collab event KMR will help Cover developing their own gacha

Yagoo should follow this guy

He started off as a small tech startup with a vtuber as the main draw for a Flowershop app kinda lika Sora in the beginning. He sold off the tech to an investor and used that money to fund a mobage.

Why soi people love hololive

>>20583811
That's not how that works. It's hard to explain, but just because a conglomerate invests in your company it doesn't mean that you automatically became a subsidiary of said conglomerate.

>>20585797
Anon, it's literally anime with season ending bullshit. That's why I shit on Nijis since they aren't that different to normal streamers.

>>20585745
Moona is pure sex, we need more models like her

>>20585797

>>20584580
>>20585081
Just so you know, Cover is solvent for a number of years even if they make no profit all because of how big their got back in 2020 and 2021. Raising capital is largely a non-issue for them as it currently stands.

Their business is not operating as a tech company though, so they have to mind not to spend all their cash doing whatever except maybe paying off the investors and getting them to fuck off if they're being too pushy.

>>20583029
Kys

>>20584542
Anon. Those statues cost a lot.
https://twitter.com/rezero_en/status/1276657246382862336
This one went for 40k and that is fixed price.

>>20586112
Yes, all they need is to keep at their current pace and they can survive in a 4-5 more years with 4-5 birthday/Anni 3D every month with merch. Earns a lot with more talents coming in.

Though, Anycolor's strats is kinda good, since they'll profit big from debuting a lot of members.

>>20586112
>doing whatever
Well at least they have one clear goal in mind: Building a multimedia franchise in ordee to create job opportunities for the girls in case they want to retire from being livestreamers.

>>20582990
Kiara alone mogging all Luxiem. I Kneel

>>20586112
>Their business is not operating as a tech company though
It's a meme at this point. They are more of a multimedia with focus on entertainment nowdays. It's better desu and it's not like they completely abandoned their intial project. The holo app is still well and running till this day.

>>20586425
It's also a charity auction, meaning whatever is spent on the statue can be written off for taxes.

>KNEEL!
NOW!

>>20579913
why does it look like Pika got a different resolution compared to the other 3? like her head seems a bit...blurry

This would be a serious candidate for gold in most days. Not today tho

I don't know what to expect from today's debuts. Do they still get a big debut buff even after people know their personalities already? All I know that moving forward with the shotgun approach, Anycolor is gonna put debut goods as a way to earn which is scummy. Even Edengumi had debut goods too, same with NijiEN. Usually debuts are something to celebrate, but they're just poisoning the industry with their greed.

>>20587463
there'll be some tourists and seething nijiniggers watching but I'm expecting maybe 5k to 10k range max since they aren't really being advertised as a "full-fledged" debut like Edengumi was.

/#/ is declining.

>>20587463
Oh no they're releasing merch how will the vtuber industry recover from this they're literally Hitler.

I'm seeing a bunch of people in both JP and EN side who apparently didn't know Moona existed.
I'm guessing she'll get quite a boost from this.
If she sets up a Karaoke next week she could raise her floor quite a bit.

>>20585714
>implying anybody will want to buy Cover's obsolete tech

>>20587463
>even after people know their personalities already
Yeah all 6 people who watch VTA know them

>>20587808

>>20584503
But their first game was dogshit, and Error wasn’t much better. The weird GenshinCraft game they’re working on could do well, but I’m not holding my breath. Game development is a massive money sink and there aren’t thousands of programmers ready to work for Cover, they’re either indie or already working at actual game companies. Even Cygames struggles to make games. Anyways, they’re probably still better off sticking to (good) collabs, and eventually outsourcing games to actual experienced companies.

So Jun is playing Apex right now and someone just commented
>お前は湊あくあになれない

>>20588460
Random chat shit ain't gonna do shit. I doubt jun kids don't already hate her.

>>20587049
general chose the wrong day, today he will be speared at the gates.

>>20588120
Is error even completed? But I do agree it looks trash at this point. What is the first game? Might just forget it or it being so long ago that I don't remember it.
But yes, if they can't land a decent release with HoloEarth, yes they should either stop or swap the focus to simpler games.

>>20588460
Why the fuck are you watching jun play apex. Have some self respect.

>>20587463
>Greedy
It’s smart, even Cover does it now.

>>20583712
>>20583316
Can we stop to act like OLM didn't invest in Cover years ago/
>>20582013
Only Kataribe, who only streamed 3 times in 2019 and another girl are below 100k, so I guess in that regard, yes.
>>20574754
Well, I hope this thread will talk about nijifes as much as it did about holofes when its it's time ^^

had like a 3 hour nap after tally was done, why is the catalog a fucking disaster right now

>>20588889
I don’t think it’s even complete, last I remember it was still only a demo.

>>20587463
How the fuck putting out debut goods is scummy? You have to be shitposting, it's not possible you actually think like this.
Also 90% of the audience don't know those girls. VTA had less than 5k watching even the debut, while in here at worst they will reach 50k.

>>20589142
It's basically just a chilla's art game at this point but way to predicable. Or maybe not exactly but I guess that's the vibe they are going for.
Will it be good enough to buy if it cost something? hard to say but I doubt it. Maybe if it's like a 1-3 $ game.

Hololive doing a homage to Mito in holofes kek
https://twitter.com/yukawa_virtual/status/1505161985901891587

>>20589283

unity.....

>>20588889
>What is the first game
A VR ping pong game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/495520/Ping_Pong_League/

>>20585333
Remember that retard saying the hashtag numbers were low?

nice, there are retards uploading parts of the paid portion of the concert already
https://www.youtube.com/c/MahdeenSkyYT/videos

>>20585333
jesas

>>20589283
Oh no no no no, tribalfags don't look!

>>20589577
Im guess those are chink alt accounts? You better save them before they get nuked.

>>20589283
this kills so much of this thread, it's so funny

jesus the number thread truly is dead right now

>>20589283
Newfag here I don’t get it.

>>20589704
i've spotted a couple of our regular schizos shitting up the catalog

>>20580631
he wants to help his employees succeed because he's a good fuckable ceo

>>20589652
that's a lot of fucking videos for an alt account
also if i want to see the concert i'd just get the full thing, and i definitely wouldn't use youtube

>>20589652
nah, from a quick perusal he's just a moron. Report all the vids to cover so his account can be wiped.

Do you guys think some of the piracy would be reduced if Cover streamed the full concert on Youtube, but at 240p?

>>20589726
The label says MOON, which is the first character in Tsukino, and Mito's name is a reference to the rabbit on the moon. The label also says Iintyo, or 委員長, which is a reference to Mito's lore status as her school's student council president. The warning label also has a line that says, "This is a Virtual Youtuber...," which is a line popularized by Mito herself whenever VTubers do crazy stuff.

>>20585333
Will nijifags cry about this Holofes trending like they did the last time. I remember all the “it was all thanks to the c-chinese spam” gaslighting bullshit they tried to pull off.

>>20589939
144p for immersive experience.

>>20587463
15-25k
>>20587049
If he still gets to have the most watched Niji stream of the day becaus of Survivors Guilt overlapping with Holofest...well shit.

>>20587766
I don't think they'll be that low but it kind of sucks having VTA essentially a big spoiler

>>20589961
As a fan of both Holo and Niji it embarasses me how triggered Nijiniggers get at Holobronies doing anything successful. I wish that tribalfags would just leave

>>20590040
Most Nijisanji fans aren't even talking about holofes in here or other places. You guys really need to wake up to the reality that nijifags are mostly in their own threads in here.
>>20589957
This kill the mindset of this thread lol

The new Homo Gen video got quite a bit of views on twitter, 448k so far. Seems like dropping it during holofes might turn out to be a good idea.

>>20590111
>This kill the mindset of this thread lol
Eh? Also, hello, ESLchama.

>>20590151
why didnt they post it on the holostars youtube channel? to get more traction on twitter instead?

>>20589692
>this kills so much of this thread, it's so funny
>>20590111
>the mindset of this thread
"This thread" is not a person, and that person is not whoever you choose to represent it.

Is this some sort of "inferiority complex" that makes you believe everybody is against what you like?

>>20590151
weren't there cardboards of them near the holostar booth as well in the expo?
that probably also helped

>>20590006
Aren't the NijiJP debuts today? Surely those will clear 40k?

>>20589692
How so? The JP branches have always had a good relationship with one another, it’s the EN niji branch that has small dog syndrome.

>>20585333
Will day 2 do better or worse?

>>20590151
Twitter metrics are a meme.

>>20590312
That's because the nature of NijiEn is that they're perpetually trend chasing bitches (the women).

They're not just holorejects, they're also ex indie vtubers that hopped on the trend after HoloEN had already opened the market.

Whereas NijiJP and HoloJP are basically all ex nico nico streamers.

>>20590372
it has a weaker cast, but they are putting all the announcements for the branches that actually matter on this one

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>>20582990
Noctyx really shit the bed huh? Can't even get over 5k most days while Luxiem can still do it mostly effortlessly. Most of their fans can't even understand them to know if they're "good" streamers or not, so does it just come down to design? Or Luxiem being first is all that matters and no subsequent male waves will ever be able to top them?

What happened with the nijicope list?:
is for this thread:
>>20590357

Isn't the power balance for day one way too ridiculous?

I mean you got Suisei, Gura, Moona, Fubuki, Towa, Subaru, Marine. What popular holos are supposed to carry day 2? Mori, Aqua and Pekora?

>>20590427
Really curious to see what major announcements they’ll put out this year.
I hope they do another Bloom.

>>20590111
>30+ holo bait threads daily filled with anti shit for months
>nijien discord leak finally takes the sting out of a lot of those threads
>a few more niji bait threads than usual start popping up
>we are the victims, we don't even leave our threads it's all the holobronies

>>20590541

yeah the line up for day 2 is way weaker. mori aqua peko and idk, watame? will have to do a hard carry

>>20590541
Kiara knows to dance

>>20590508
https://rentry.org/nijicoep

>>20590312
>>20590418
Most of them aren't holo rejects. Only Finana, Enna and Pomu can, as they applied before.
I also think you all exaggerate a fair bit on this discord leak thing to be honest. It's been weeks and it's still living rent free.

>>20583316
I'm sort of confused as to what exactly Vshoujo is gonna do with 11M. They can't just give it to the girls and say "good job", those investors will want to earn their money back and make a good profit on it.

>>20590694
Literally buy their way into cons and make a useless backpack for on the go streaming (this will vacuum up all the money).

>>20590541
Pekora and Onion alone have enough star power to carry. The issue I think is who will carry day 2 performance-wise? I love Daisenpai but she ain't topping suisex and Moona.

>>20590499
Most of the times Shu won't be doing 9k, which was achieved from a collab with only 3 povs, with the girl fans going to his pov to watch Ike. Shu most of the times does between 3k and 2k.
But yes, Luxiem is the Myth of NijiEN while Noctyx is Council. Of course, in their own size as Noctyx are smaller. I mean in terms of them not being in the same level as the breakout gens.

>>20590565
i want bloom 2 so bad, all the new orisongs for the last one were so good

>>20590577
You act like there isn't tons of nijsanji anti threads daily as well. For this to change, 4chan would need to not be 4chan anymore and to have heavy moderation, and this wont happen.

>>20584021
They probably realize the market cap for vtubers has a limit and there no obvious way to expand. Overly aggressive expansion in a limited or ephemeral market has doomed many business in the past.

>>20590499
Most of Noctyx has been inclining. It'll just take some time.

Checked twitter just now and:
>pic related
Over 800k tweets about it. That’s a fucking LOT MAN

>>20590784
>Luxiem is the Myth
What?????????
They need events everytime to get good numbers. and Myth not really at all. Even a fucking Kiara Watchalong won today

>>20590763
Mori? IRyS?

>>20590951

>irys

anon?

>>20590917
Vox and Mysta regularly get 10k+ without events pretty easily. Ike averages more 5k-6k since he constantly plays debuff games. Are they as popular as Myth? No obviously not but they only debuted like 2 months and are constantly breaking their own records and growing.

>>20590917
>Of course, in their own size as Noctyx are smaller

>>20590917
Equivalent anon, they're the Myth equivalent. As much as Niji wants to shitpost they'll never be Myth tier in industry relevance because of their very nature (malee vtubers, mostly pandering to a chinese market).

But they are Myth in the sense that they're massively popular (they're all upper tier in niji), cracked a new market wide open, and their follow up generation aren't anywhere near as strong.

>>20590910
so is above the the other holo concerts?
Make me wonder if they really let hololive make live concerts on US like ComicCon or AnimeCon whatever

>>20590418
>they're also ex indie vtubers that hopped on the trend after HoloEN had already opened the market.
Only Nina and possibly Finana.
Elira, Pomu, Selen, Rosemi, Petra, Millie, and Enna were vtubers before HoloEN1's debut.

>>20590985
If I hope hard enough she'll appear, okay!?

>>20590694
I honestly don't know
>Invest it in merch and make it up there?
>Con appearances, definitely
>Bribe money to try and get their names out there more, perhaps?
They can't really rely on big sponsorships out west because vtubing is still a niche in burgerland and Europe plus their content isn't exactly sponsor friendly. They don't have a JP branch in the one market that actually considers Vtubers as somewhat mainstream. And even if they did, they don't have the same brand power as Niji or Holo. Their audience has made being anti-idol a part of their identity so they can't really do their own version of Holofes. And after seeing how amateurish their management has handled stuff (nux drama, the whole charity for ukraine thing, not keeping a leash on TTS dragon) I have little hope that the 11mil is gonna get put to good use.

>>20591024
>Vox and Mysta
Not regulary unless is a whore ASMR or normal karaoke. But pls don't put them on Myth level. Council level maybe. But not Myth level at all

>>20590951
>Mori
Like I said, they're not topping Suisex and Moona performance-wise

>>20591129
Keep on believing anon

>>20591123
Nina also was a trendhopper vtuber and she was of the worst kind you can imagine

>>20590733
>buy their way into cons
Nyanners must be happy she doesn't have to whore her body for that now.

>>20590917
Anon, I only compared Myth and Luxiem because both of them are breakout hits to their respective branches. I'm not saying they are in the same level in numbers, interpret.

>>20591263
Vox got 14.3k playing It Takes Two, and Luca got 12k playing Getting Over It, just today alone

>>20591343
Nah, she was a milquetoast bitch that just parroted others' opinions without having one of her own.

>>20590763
Risu has a pipe, More should bring something different, Mio is good. I think we're fine both with numbers and quality.

>>20590951
Irys, ID2, HoloX and Council are not part of the concert anon..

>>20590784
I think it feels a little different though. Kronii can easily beat 4/5ths of Myth when she really tries. She has the 2nd highest ceiling in EN. Mumei is easily on the level of Ina just not as consistent. Even Fauna and Bae or more or less Ame level and easily beat Kiara. It's not really cut and dried that Myth > Council other than the phenomena that is Gura. Noctys on the other hand can rarely even touch Shu or Ike's boots, much less even think of being competitive with the top 3 dudes.

>>20591374
oh yea they get those numbers every day, retard

>>20591263
Hes only done 2 ASMR streams. He usually gets pretty high in solo streams and collabs with guys, but when hes in collabs with women his CCV drops terribly. Hes got a pretty particular audience.

>>20591434
Noctxys definitely can reach at least Shu because Alban, Fulgur and Uki reach a lot of times 3k-2k or above like 4k and beyond depending on the stream. In the we were here collab between fulgur and uki, I think both of them were above 7k. So much like Luxiem, it depends a lot on the game.
But I do agree that Luxiem feels more stronger and how should I say, stable in their viewership.

>>20591504
female chinks are volatile

>>20590293
Their launch announcement on Twitter received the same engagement as HoloX. I think they will have better numbers. I just checked and they have 30k subs, not sure if they lost subs yet

>>20591123
Most of them debuted a month or two before EN did, mostly because they figured out they weren't getting in and did the next best thing. This is Elira/Rosemi/Pomu. Only Petra and Selen had been doing it for a long time and I think Millie was going for about 6 months before. Not sure on Enna.

>>20591471
Its pretty typical for Luca now actually. Hes been inclining hard recently.

>>20591189
What about Ukraine?

>>20590910
Isn’t that as much as both Holofes 2 combined?

>>20591471
And Myth doesn't get those numbers every day either, so what's your point?

>>20591656
>I think they will have better numbers.
Better numbers than HoloX-?

>>20591593
I've never seen an audience as unicorn as Vox's is. He talks to a woman and his CCV halves.

>>20591656
When did they open their channels? Usually takes 20-24 hours to get hit with the first cull.

>>20590541
Remember Rushia was originally in day 2 and PekoRush was almost certainly guaranteed
But stuffs happened

Put all that NijiENHoloEN shit aside, what's the over/under for tonight's free HoloFes performance? The luster will wear off compared to the first day obviously, which got a modest 105k. I'm thinking 95k is the right point since this day lacks some star power.

Will Irys redesign be announced on day 2? They didn't forget her right?

>>20591759
I mean better than 40k

>>20591764
Nothing good will come pandering Chinks. One little yabe about Taiwan with China worse than the Doulingo and goodbye EN branch or Niji CN branch

>>20591859
This will be the test. Can Aqua and Peko buff able to cancel the lack of stars debuff? Let’s find out
Poor the 2 of them and Mori will have to carry day 2 number and carry HARD

>>20590832
you don't see holofags, Cyberlive fans, VSPO fans or the Tsunderia tribals running around with a persecution complex.

>>20591866
I forget if it was her 3D or some new outfit, but I recall Nene also had a similar thing happen with a redesign last year. How long did it take for her stuff to show after the rest of gen5?

>>20591679
Rosemi debuted in June (as a JP vtuber)
Elira and Pomu debuted in July
Myth debuted in September
Still, can't say they "hopped on the trend after HoloEN opened the market", when HoloEN hadn't even debuted yet.

>>20591893
For a while I thought you were crazy but it was so crazy I then assumed it was me misreading

>>20591866
I'm really impressed with her mental make up as a person. If it were most of the other talents on the hololive roster there would have been several menhera fits about being ugly.

>>20591954
>Tsunderia tribals
They call anyone who disagrees with them some kinda flower fucker or menhera wolf fucker.

>>20591866
I doubt it. Expect big company wide stuff like new gens (ID3) ect, not stuff for individual vtubers. I imagine IRyS will do all that stuff on her own channel. I do expect IRyS to get the greenlight for 3D now that Myth has "premiered". It might even be done already.

>>20591973
Just announcing the recruitment opened the market.

>>20592010
>or menhera wolf fucker.
kek, what's the context?

>>20591954
Because those people's stuff doesn't make for good trolling content. Trolls can use Niji stuff to bait people with because they're successful enough it gets a reaction out of people.

>>20591954
>Cyberlive fans
They literally think Anycolor and Cover pay people here to give them a bad name.

>>20590694
eh they can survive for like 3 years by cooking the books.
11M is like chump change for VCfags.
These guys have investments like we have clothes. There's a good chance they'll just straight up forget that they own VShojo shares within a year if any new trend pops up.

>>20591799
I wonder what Cover will do with that 10-15 minute block that opened up. Did they replace it with something else? More merch shilling? Have the concert be under 3 hours?

>>20590763
Wut? Sora shines in 3D stages m8, her hard carrying holo in the early days was mainly due to her singing and MMD dances.

>>20592041
I think it was more Holo JP blowing up in popularity in the west that really opened the floodgates. This is from like March/April 2020 onwards. Even if Myth hadn't debuted I think you would have seen people entering the market, albeit at a slower rate.

>>20591954
Because hololive fans don't attack them or make bait threads about them. Not even Vshojo gets this much, they get threads like only when it's about drama.
I think it's fairly obvious there's some rival shit on both sides and it has been for years.

>>20592124
>eh they can survive for like 3 years by cooking the books.
That's extremely illegal.

>>20592163
Probably gave 1-2 other people an extra song block. They could just do something they already have the choreography learned for.

>>20584350
>Streamed 183 times more than Ame and only raised 47 times more money

>>20591681
>12k is pretty typical for Luca now actually
lets see, one is a challenge stream whose avg ccv was 7k, and the other is a vr debut on white day. Want me to translate it to chinese this time?

>>20592209
Protip: anti/pro vtuber discords raid /vt/ daily with the freshest drama. Once you realize most of them are shit stirers none of their opinions affect your perception on anything.

>>20592163
I mean the gap between Rushia termination and HoloFes is like a month. They can easily arrange some filler performance in there assuming the talents are up for it
Beside if the really is a PekoRushi segment they would probably be able to find someone else to fill in or have Pekora do it alone. No big deal since it’s all things they already practiced

>>20592287
Maybe PekoAqua. The boards would feast for months on that.

>>20591656
it's a 1/3rd equivalent viewership anon.
Conservatively you could say their floor is maybe 20-30k, and ceiling is 100k.
VTA is somewhat of a debuff, but new members are a buff, holoevent attention is a buff as well since those bring tourists who tend to be more into Nijisanji.
Other than that, niji audience is way too volatile to precisely tie these things down.

>>20592163
They could just have Sora or Aqua perform another songs to fill the spot, both of them are used to concert so learning an extra song or just do one of their own wouldn't be so hard

>>20591656
sorry to break it to you, but twitter engagement isnt worth much.

>>20592359
I would prefer not after what happened to PekoMiko. Pekora should not be shipped to anyone under any circumstance

>>20590541
>>20590638
Sora, Watame and Aqua have the most live stage experience for day 2.
Mori, Kiara and Risu can put up quite a show too.

Just realized that they split up Noe Flare in each day. Flare's a good singer for day 2 as well.

>>20591656
hmm, one of them got 30k and the rest aren't far behind.
The announcement got 1.4M views, but doesn't seem to have translated much into subs.
Or maybe Nijis sub during and after the debut?
Waiting room has 75 people during this time so we should be getting at least 50k as floor.

>>20591123
>>20591679
>Petra first debuted as Cierra in Overridea in 2018, to the point she had collabs with Hololive, Nijisanji, 774 and othera gencies. After graduating, she became a utaite between 2019-2021.
>Pomu initially tried to join holoEN with no experience, but she didn't pass and then became indie vtuber, until she tried NijiEN
>Finana tried HoloEN auditions and according to her she reached the final stages. After failing, she became a vtuber. She even was retarded enough to tweet about trying NijiEN auditions, which is why we know she reached the final stages.
>Elira was an utaite for years before becoming a vtuber months before holoen debuts
>Millie was similar to Elira
>Enna was similar to Elira as well and in 2021 she tried both Hololive and Nijisanji. In hololive's case iirc she tries for the vsinger position.
>Nina was a twitch streamer, a MC for many things for years until 2020 when she debuted as a vtuber
>Selen was a vtuber for a long time
>Rosemi debuted as a japanese vtuber in 2020 before she got some english fanbase and changed to be a english vtuber
I think that's more or less for the girls. Pomu, Finana and Enna are the ones we know that tried holo before.

>>20592359
Would be hilarious.

>>20592004
Yeah, I thought he was saying they'd beat Koyori's 180k~ or something. 40k is reasonable.

>>20592493
They sub after debut. Last year with edengumi it was the same. All of them had about the same numbers until after debut where they began to sub. I think japs have a different mindset of only subscribing after seeing how the vtubers are, which is understandable I guess.

>>20592212
> American corporations
> doing their finances by the book
you need to be 18+ to post here

>>20590855
That's why they're trying to expand into multimedia with manga, vidya, and anime.
They've made quite a few missteps though

>>20592513
I forgot about Reimu but she was an utaite since 2012, then became a vtuber in 2021 while also streaming on twitch. She discovered vtubers because Soraru played with Kanae.

>>20591656
>>20592395
i dont even know how to find their channel, kinda shit announcements

>>20592209
NijiEN faggots attack hololive talents (not fans) and pretty much spam the catalog everytime something even minor happens.
More than that, there are NijiENfags ITT that actually believed a lot of bullshit numbers about them and spouted them for ages.
There's definitely a bias against Nijisanji (EN) on this thread, but it's not unearned or undeserved.

>>20592309
Niji poster always starts their "typical" from the last big number their liver got. So for example, 33k is pretty typical for Mysta nowadays. He's been inclining pretty hard lately.

>>20592731
Fanbase reflects the streamer.

>>20590293
70k-100k atleast Lain got 69k last year.

>>20592699
The debut streams are in the description of the announcement.
Also numbers.

I wonder who of the girls will be in the free part tomorrow, not counting any group song start.. Today had Subaru, Matsuri, Nene, Marine, Fubuki, Kanata, Polka, Korone.

Sora feels like a given, she might even start.

Might just be easier to say who doesn't turn up. My bet is Ayame, Choco, Okayu, Aki,Botan, Robovo and either Aqiua or Pekora. Not counting ID/EN who obviously will be in paid part.

>>20592941
ads. look at that feedback trend

>>20592985
They definitely won’t be blowing Aqua and Pekora so soon. Just like how Suisei and Towa were dead last
Day 2 don’t have that many big names to begin with so they have to use them wisely

>>20592985
aqua for sure

>>20592941
How many subscribers did the previous wave have before debut?

>>20592985
>>20593096
yeah, peko and aqua are definitely going in the paid part

>>20592790
There was way more hype for edengumi over the new rumancolus. I saw them on al the /vt/ sister matomes on the hour every hour almost. There is nothing special about known quantities to most tourists. 90k is unreasonable. I will give you 60k-70k but not a viewer more. I do wonder if the song they have will actually be a big factor. I'm hoping it will.

>>20592731
And the contrary happens as well anon. This have been happening much before nijien existed.

>>20592657
missteps are fine as long as you don't put your whole leg into it. Cover trying to be patient and safe I would say.

>>20593123
50k-60k iirc
Pre-debut subs don't matter in 2022, HoloX lost like half a million combined and they're okay. I think people are underselling them but then I see people over selling them which makes me think no one has any idea. People were saying Laplus would be lucky to hit 80k pre-debut but that got memoryholed quickly.

Alban with 2.1k right now and Shu with 2.9k. As I said before, Noctyx without a buff is very close to Shu whenever he doesn't have a buff.

>>20592985
aqua seems one of the greatest sponsors magnets for some reason, so free part to give her another spotlight. And following that logic, also botan, and maybe pekora

>>20593258
5ch/matomes watch VTA the hype is mostly from twitter tourists.

>>20593419
Aqua can do anything
>She’s popular
>Can pull Pekora number if she want
>Can sing and dance
>Are good at game
In term of being an entertainer she is a good all-rounder

Just... a little... more

>>20593363
I dunno, the video game development part is a massive risk imo. ERROR did not give me any confidence in their dev team.

Post SEASTA and CHINKOX

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>>20593677

holobros...

>>20593677
holoX

>>20593715
Spoke too soon there shitposting faggot.

>>20593715

kek >>20593721

>>20593638
anon, risk requires a chance of failure being catastrophic. That doesn't apply to cover's video game development. Sure it might fail but there's currently no chance it is a risk to the company.

>>20593677
>>20593721
so, about a 15:40 = 3:8 ratio in favor of HoloX.
HoloX also had lower time window between announcement and debut, and Laplus debut was only 30mins so their initial peak of 160k doesn't fully account for it.
Rough avg of the remaining 4 peaks gives about 165k.
165k*3/8 gives us an approximation of 60k.

So the initial debut will probably start at 50k, average will be around 60k, and the last one might peak at 70k. 80k if there's a tourist buff X factor.

>NijiJP debuts will be 20 minutes a piece
I hate this meme.

day 2 6am busy as usual

>>20594233
>standing on a line in the morning for hours
man, i'm glad i don't go to cons anymore, i don't miss that shit at all, the only way to stand that shit is to go with a group

>>20593498
>Can pull Pekora number if she want
Really only with apex or if it's a rare singing stream, i.e. she hasn't streamed in a month comes back singing.

Not saying she can't do it, just that she is more niche then pekora.

Use this one next
>>20582459

>>20593638
Eh, it's a risk but not to bad of a risk. I honestly think they're still running with like 10 % of the devs they want. Is that good? no. is it panic time? no.
And like they said early in the Holoearth development, at that point it was a PR move to attract other game studios or something.

>>20589957
You realize that MOONa is the PRESIDENT of Usaken and is a virtual youtuber? This has nothing to do with Mito.

God you people are stupid.

>>20591726
Charity org that they worked with was some shady ass company.

>>20594149
idk what this means but JP is using the NijiEN model of shorter debut times, original song, official unit name before debut, etc
Last year with edengumi to show the difference, they had about 40 minutes of debut and their name was only decided later on after collabs, similar to past waves in nijisanji

>>20594845
A for effort but you need to be more verbose.

>>20594845
I'm sure Inchou which is class president is referring to Moona and not the vtuber who is called inchou. Not counting the eraser itself, for the school reference and the very reference to her kanji...

>>20594845
Moona is the 部長 and Mito is 委員長, dumb EOP-kun