/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>20500484
I don't

this is now an ina thread

>>20500484
whore, frog, retarded, hope she graduates and becomes a camgirl

she is french and therefore stinky, therefore sniff

>>20500860
Imagine being a non-hololive fan in elden ring and seeing 'Behold, octopus' with lots of commendations right before a steep drop. I kek.

>>20500860
tel kjar yor snir fa

>>20500484
She's busy with her Moroccan boyfriend. She'll be back soon.

>>20500860
I love Ina!

>>20500860
Based

>>20500899
>graduate
>Indie
Lmao

>>20500484
I saw a bunch of anons crying about her, but not a single screenshot where she said something wrong

Would you flip the switch? I would

>>20500899
Uhhhh...

>>20503323
Artfag are thin skinned and egoistical faggots
Here is the thinly veiled seethe
>>20500860
>>20501311
>>20501622
>>20502903
>>20502950

>>20500484
Who do I hatefap now? Saruei please stream. I need to hear your hypocritical French whore voice curse at people who remind you of yourself

I dont even know what she did, I never liked her because she is a frenchie whore

>>20500484
I miss her, too.

>>20503584
Never flipping the switch. I’ll rush her off that platform.

>>20506615
you rush her off the platform but end up dying in her place, she doesnt care and just walks away

>>20506745
True. That’s true. True. Yeah, that’s true. True.

>>20506052
>Holds art contest
>Decides not to use a submission because it's god awful fucking bad, didn't even draw a nose
>Her mod Tells the artist they were disqualified, but never really states why
>Whole troon twitter mob blows up because Saru didn't bend over and spread her asshole open in forgiveness

Saru has just become to kind, I miss old Saru that had no problem telling people they were shit. Half of those art submissions were trash, and watching her skate around calling them garbage was terrible. If she was her old self and just told the troon it was garbage and she didn't want it none of this would be happening.

why does being a vtuber go hand in hand with being mentally ill

>>20507187
Kill yourself

>>20507192
No sane person wants to role play an anime character online for money.

>>20507577
yeah, thats why i do it for free

>>20507187
mods a retard, and defend retard too many times without making yourself look like a retard. only thing i care about Saruei is her NSFW ASMR release.

>>20507187
Yeah I don't see anything wrong with this. Is it common for art contests to explain it to every loser why they didn't win or something?

>>20500860
GO INA GO

>>20508066
Nope, but when you're a twitter bitch and you don't win your snowflake prize you cry like the sky is falling and your social bubble will agree with you regardless of the truth.

Oh no no no...... look at her nose AHAHAHAHA

>>20500860
anon I dont want to fall asleep ye.....zzzzzz.......

>>20507187
Her "old self" is why this happend in the first place. Can you even read?

>>20509052
Her old self would have showed the terrible piece and openly lambasted it on stream.

>>20508459
no need to stand up to her, there's no free blowjobs from Saruei for you.
>>20507187
huh. so this is the other side of the story. she should've just blocked the recipient after a single "you're disqualified, better luck next time." the French are such articulate, verbose and daresay retarded kind of people.

>>20509312
>she should've just blocked the recipient after a single "you're disqualified, better luck next time."
what did she do instead? I still haven't seen her say anything wrong

>>20509640
The QRD?
>Saurei has art contest
>Tiny vtuber submits art
>Saurei announces during judging that tracers were disqualified
>Tiny vtuber finds out after the contest she was disqualified for tracing
>She is angry because she was never given a chance to defend herself (as a vtuber, she literally had a vod of her drawing it in real-time to prove her innocence).
>Saurei's mod basically belittles her and says, "lol, too bad"
>(Side note for non-artists: Accusations of tracing can be a career-ending hit to an artist's rep, which is part of the reason the small vtuber was so angry.)
>Tiny vtuber posts the exchange to twitter
>Saruei backs up rude mod's behavor
>Twitter mass dogpiles her
>Saurei begins mass blocking to avoid criticism. Ends up blocking a lot of random people who are just asking innocent questions or offering gentle advice.
>Blocking people who were being very polite or genuinely asking questions makes Saurei look thin-skinned and bad. Especially since some of those blocked were the biggest EN vtuber artists in the world.
>Newegg-style controversy develops: A lot of people who had previously been treated badly by Saruei, but remained silent due to intimidation or thinking theirs was an isolated case, finally come out of the woodwork.
>Even DyaRikku, one of the largest EN vtuber artists, claims "a dozen artists" contacted her about Saruei's poor behavior.
>At this point the vast majority of people on Twitter have turned against her
>Eventually gives a "half-apology" where she only apologizes for a very narrow thing (how she ran the contenst) and sidesteps the bigger issue of a toxic mod and rude behavior
>Deletes apology and reposts it with comments disabled due to the near-universal criticism she was getting in response.

The art contest was just the catalyst which triggered a lot of other people she snubbed over the years to come out of the woodwork and air their grievances.

>>20508459
This is still the thing that irks me. Have any of these guys played any tournament or competition? You DQ’d and that’s it. You can’t talk your way out and it doesn’t matter if it was deserved or not.

Wait. The vast majority of these people haven’t played a sport or any kind of tournament.

she shouldn't have mentioned tracing or disqualifying for it. She should have put the artist in the bottom tier for having shit art. Rarely do tracers have actually good art.

>20505467
WAH

>>20509294
Retard

she burned a lot of bridges, will she actually come back from this one?

>>20508832
>Nose
WHERE IS IT?????

>>20511691
>I'm totally not buttblasted
Cope and seethe

my beloved. i miss your mouth. terribly. i must grab it.

>>20511536
Hindsight is 20/20. The entire thing was a chain of (relatively) small incidents which snowballed out of control.
>Saruei could have fired Darius (honestly, the fact she hasn't at this point probably means he's her boyfriend or blackmailer).
>Saruei could have kept a better handle on her block button and not blocked a bunch of innocent randos, making her look like a jerk
>Saruei could have apologized. Like, ever. The fact so many people had so many documented bad interactions with her means she's really not in the habit of admitting wrong or saying sorry, ever.
>Saruei could have given a proper apology at the end instead of just sidestepping the larger issue of a toxic Darius and her own offensive behavior in favor of only apologizing for the art contest directly.

>>20512368
It's completely unknown. I know you here some hopefuls are saying,
>Oh, the drama is minor, it'll blow over and Saurei will be back in no time.
But they forget two major issues:
1) In the past she has taken breaks from streaming due to her BPD and depressive spirals. And that was back when she was relatively well-liked.
2) Saurei is a Twitter addict. Let me say that again: she is addicted to browsing a platform that is now collectively shitting all over here. Among which is a good chunk of her peers and art community. So she's probably being fed a steady stream of hits to her ego.

So honestly? Who knows. A normal streamer would be able to bounce back as soon as the controversy died down. Someone who has depressive moods and a twitter addiction constantly feeding them negativity could be out of the game far longer.

>>20512368
I think she will. The strategy is to lay low for a while and secure your other lines of income as the vultures try picking her off. Her viewers (the ones that know her and like her) stuck around so that’s not a real problem for her.

>>20500484
Larping as a Saurei fan. Shame on you sir.

>>20512864
I made that gif for you and you won't even accept my rent, you're really getting my wah going

>>20513166
"i know the real her!!" parasocials, man...

>>20513781
I meant the ones that watch her streams and know this is standard Saru responses so it just rolls off the shoulders.

None of this fazed me and I’m still going to keep watching her.

>>20513166
Oh, it's sure a good thing she doesn't have to grapple with depression like she did in the past! Especially now that her peer circle and Twitter community in general are shunning her! She'll be fine, it's just a matter of money and not any emotional trouble or mental illness!

>>20514171
>hated by twitter

Oh no.... anyway

>>20514171
Money matters quite a bit in this position. Those Twitter vultures have or are in the process of trying to pick off any of her known clients and push her out of the space. That’s what I would do if I was on the other side.

Grappling with depression will need to be settled after her livelihood is fully secured. She has a community so she at least have that to keep her going which is something that she cares about.

>>20513142
i really hope she can get in with a good therapist if she isn't already seeing one who can help her pull herself away from stuff like twitter. the people who are mobbing her on twitter are fucking nuts. yes, she deserved criticism but there's a point where it has to stop and that point was passed days ago. people are just hating on her for sport and it honestly sucks

>>20510974
>oh no not the hecking twitter blockerinos and rude behavior feelirinos
You enter someone else's contest they can rate you how ever they want. Only thing she did wrong was thinking she had to do any damage control. Also the mass blocking sounds more like her just not being interested in the usual cringy twittermob babble which like you said was coming from every direction. Still waiting for a screencap or something of her doing or saying something wrong

>>20514451
>Oh no.... anyway
To you and I and pretty much everyone else on the board, Twitter can go fuck right off. But as >>20513142 said she's a Twitter addict. Twitter is a major part of her social world (perhaps even the largest part, since all her peers and friends hang out there). Getting condemned by Twitter probably cuts her far deeper than it would ever cut you or I

>>20514580
If only depression were as easy as simply postponing it. Depression makes it so you don't even want to get out of bed in the morning, let alone deal with business affairs or stream. Maybe someone more iron-willed and stoic can do that, but I have a hard time imagining someone with BPD simply ignoring depression and getting back to work. Especially on a consistent basis and not just a one-time burst of energy.

>>20510974
what is with all these misunderstandings and accidents snowballing into worse shit lately

>>20515143
Saru is a workaholic. She has a higher probability of acting like a professional during these situations. I’m willing to bet on her getting through this and handling business first and then do what she needs to do for her mental state.

Wish I could play poker with her. That may help her blow some steam.

>>20515040
>Still waiting for a screencap or something of her doing or saying something wrong
As usual, check the archives. There are assorted screencaps from twitter there. (Unless you're saying it in a rhetorical, "She did nothing wrong in MY eyes" way, in which case you're free to read the quote tweets to her apology post).

>>20515176
People are looking for something to rally behind and will latch onto anything. That’s just the twitter sphere.

>>20500860
hmmmh mm yess

>>20510974
>A lot of people who had previously been treated badly by Saruei, but remained silent due to intimidation or thinking theirs was an isolated case, finally come out of the woodwork.
I hate this vulture ass behavior.
Like yeah Saruei is a bitch but have they ever thought that maybe dealing with their beef at the moment might have an effect on her? Instead they bottle it up and team up to destroy her in one blow without giving her a chance to redeem herself.

>>20515869
It's because their beef is small and inconsequential. So when they get a chance they can ride the coat-tails of something else to make it seem bigger for more internet pity points.

>>20515869
>to destroy her in one blow without giving her a chance to redeem herself.
based
needing a second chance means they already failed

>>20516225
I believe they failed. This isn’t big enough. This is them just saying, “ShE’s MeAn! PlEaSe StOp HeR!”

Their aim only wounded her.

>>20515482
So many screencaps and you can't show a single one? The "worst" I found was her not wanting to read some sore losers wall of text which is nothing new

>>20515869
Welcome to cancel culture. Where you can't redeem yourself, you arecalways bad and no one will give you a second chance. Forever.
Like yes Saruei was a bitch here, but if you don't point out to her that she is, she won't change. I bet no one who she offended told her this.
>inb4 she knows it already, it's so easy to see
No, you fucking dipshit. It is easy to see for YOU, outsider that looks at the situation from the side. For her that's not easy to see at all. It is all a matter of points ov view, and lack of awareness. Saruei is blunt, with mental issues, and a notorious lack of empathy. Someone like that can easily slip and fall from a simple honest comment to insulting without realising it.

Unless she is doing it on purpose. In that case yes, she is an asshole.

>>20516173
Which honestly speaks worse of them than the person they are supposedly roasting. Id rather hang out with assholes than backstabbers.

>>20510974
It wasn't only one person who got disqualified by the mod

>>20516548
Saruei is both though.

>>20516481
Off topic, but this basically sounds how we guys are.

“We don’t know if you’re hitting on us or hinting. We’re fucking idiots. Tell us directly or we will never get it. We will just think you’re being nice.”

Don't be too worried about Saruei, Bunny's drama is going nuclear as we speak and totally eclipsing Saruei. She just has to keep her head down for a week and it'll blow over.

>>20516446
You came late to the party and expect to be spoonfeed. Go do your reps.

>>20516951
This is also true. Don’t care about Bunny. Well, maybe just her tits. Just glad this controversy took over.

>>20515869
>I hate this vulture ass behavior.
yeah but cancelling almost never directly works unless theyre blacklisted form corporate but otherwise it only stresses someone to a breaking point where they give up but those who dont give in tend to be able to continue to have a carrier.
>Instead they bottle it up and team up to destroy her in one blow without giving her a chance to redeem herself.
almost as if being shitty to people gets said people to not like you and they dont want you to harm others with your shitty actions.
while i dont think killing her carrier is fair (or is going to actually be the result), its sorta the only way for more people to be aware of shitty behavior.
>>20516225
>>20516434
>>20516481
reminder shes had drama with being shitty in august, she did get a second chance after that.
she knew previously people didnt like how shitty she was but as humans we often forget to change for the better.
>>20516786
funny you bring that up because the drama she had in august was in part caused because she thought someone was flirting with her when they complimented her eyes, when their intent was more so complimenting the art itself.

>>20516446
>So many screencaps and you can't show a single one? The "worst" I found was her not wanting to read some sore losers wall of text which is nothing new
I didn't save any because I wasn't expecting some spoiled anon to demand I personally spoonfeed them. Frankly I don't care if you believe it or not, since I'm not being paid to push any narrative. If you want it bad enough, dig through twitter or the archives, or ask someone else to spoonfeed you.

>>20516786
More or less yes. And I think it is what happened to her.
She didn't see that comment as an insult, liquidating the small vtuber as attwntion seeking (wrongly) - no one told her "hey you were a bitch there, they were just trying to explain why their art eas not traced" because they are all pussy simps. And that escalated with Saruei reacting on instinct, closing in herself and just worsening the situation as others just threw rocks at her without even stopping a second to ask if she UNDERSTOOD why everyone is angry at her.

It is sad to see, to be honest.
Again, if she is not doing it on purpose.

>>20516677
I know, Im speaking hypothetically. In fact Saruei herself is an example of the problem with this mentality.
She herself dogpiled on bunny despite the fact that basically the same shit happened to her; The ones who dogpiled on Saruei probably have a lot of backstabbers who would rather wait for the perfect moment to destroy them rather than settling things too.

>>20517183
>almost as if being shitty to people gets said people to not like you and they dont want you to harm others with your shitty actions.
This, exactly. If someone is a jerk to you, you don't have an obligation to keep quiet to protect their reputation. Don't want people to think you're a jerk? Don't act like one. I can't believe this has to be spelled out for some people.

>>20517183
Or she tried to get better, but failed. It is not easy to change your ways of acting after years of doing them.
We to be honest don't know, it's all rrat territory

>>20511124
if you get dqed from a tourney, ask why and get a response, and then the organizer accuses you of using steroids without proof its very normal to be mad about it lmfao

i think the whole thing is a nothingburger and saruei didnt do anything wrong other than be a bit of a cunt while vtuber fans are the softest individuals in the world, but the mod is without doubt a huge retard

>>20515176
>Misunderstandings
Her mod was making random accusations and calling contestants retards. She defended him even when people came to her with proof of this. There were plenty of non-stupid ways to end this before it got out of control but she stuck by her mod for some reason and everyone shit on her for it.

>>20517183
>almost as if being shitty to people gets said people to not like you and they dont want you to harm others with your shitty actions.
>its sorta the only way for more people to be aware of shitty behavior.
No you dumb nigger; In a healthy community you correct people who are acting the wrong way because you, to some level, care about them too. You dont just pretend its good, remain resentful and wait for things to get worse so you can lynch them.

>>20517183
What she do in August? My memory is pretty short on things that I don’t care about.

>>20517238
English as a second language. Ain’t it great when everyone applies the same standards and don’t bother - you know - communicating and asking, “you do know what you just said there?” Wars have been started on stuff like this.

>>20517465
>if you get dqed from a tourney, ask why and get a response, and then the organizer accuses you of using steroids without proof its very normal to be mad about it lmfao
Not just in tournies. The most common response to being falsely accused during police interrogations is indignant or anger. It's a default human response.

>>20517500
lol the person who came to her with video footage of her mod calling other people retards she just replied with *dabs on u* or some similar shit. Less than 1 day later it blew up.

>>20517370
>If someone is a jerk to you, you don't have an obligation to keep quiet to protect their reputation.
That doesnt means its okay to remain quiet until you have the opportunity to make it seem worse than it is.

>>20517570
That too.
English is not her main language, are we sure she fully grasps the meaning of those words? Like, beyond the mere, literal translation?

Sll in all, a shit show.

>>20517465
Oh, of course you ask and you take the response and that’s it. For some reason, they thought you could challenge it after the fact or thought it was blow to their career when nothing was linked back to them.

Yeah, it is a nothingburger. Darius? I like the guy since he’s pretty base at points but he handled that very poorly.

>>20511124
thats bullshit in any half serious competition if you're disqualified for breaking rules first off you are notified ahead of time and second there is usually an appeals committee

>>20517709
Darius is like an anti-PR manager, he's just stepping on landmines left and right. That's why everyone thinks he's either her boyfriend or blackmailing her, or he just flatters her to the point she won't remove him. His removal would probably make Saruei's life much easier given how often he starts PR disasters.

>>20517801
Literally nobody likes you, Darius

>>20515869
>Like yeah Saruei is a bitch but have they ever thought that maybe dealing with their beef at the moment might have an effect on her? Instead they bottle it up and team up to destroy her in one blow without giving her a chance to redeem herself.
If some no names were to post their experiences with her at the moment it happened they would have been dogpiled instead, even if they were right it would done them more harm than good to talk. Also, how many 2nd chances does this bitch need? She starts drama once or twice a month.

>>20500860
post ina seggs voice and pic

>>20517759
You're right, you should be nice to people that are jerks to you. Just like Saurei is. Uh-huh.

>>20517759
They come out at that time because it's the only time that someone small is ever listened to against someone huge. If a big name has beef with someone tiny unless there's extensive proof documenting literally everything there's a very high chance that the smaller person with significantly less clout is going to walk out of the exchange ruined. Look at the Layna shit that spun off of this. She took it for 4 years despite having all the proof in the world because Bunny is fucking huge with a million goddamn Twitter followers and that army could have been sent to smother any bad word against her out of existence.

>>20517979
Its not about being nice. Its about not being an opportunist bitch nigga.

>>20511124
if you D-Q
just go to the TW
>twitter
they'll fight for-you
>yfw this shit almost rhymes

>>20517883
Their relationship really is strange and I have no idea why she would defend him so hard. He's a fucking dickhead and any sensible streamer would have removed him as a mod after the first offense. This not only wasn't his first but she kept it up even after it blew up and he seemed to show pretty much no remorse.

>>20517840
Welcome to the world of competitive swimming. Too many entries and not enough time. Better luck next time. World sucks.

>>20517370
ill add though that that as >>20517263 noted, its likely that theres people wholl are quiet just waiting for the moment people turn on them, those actors tend to be more so in for the revenge rather then the health of the community.
>>20517422
that is part of my point yes.
>>20517524
then no comunity is healthy because humans hate rocking the boat especially if its their neck on the line, thats why its a trope that someone bit in a zombie outbreak doesnt tell anyone they are bit until its too late.
real survival or social survival makes people unwilling to tell others the truth especially if said person theyre telling the truth too or about could hurt them

>>20518167
Good thing this is an art contest and not competitive swimming and the entrants have direct access to the person running it retard

>>20518021
> there's a very high chance that the significantly less clout is going to walk out of the exchange ruined
Or worse, some famous streamers will weaponize their community to overwhelm a detractor off the internet entirely. Or spread rumors (ala Bunny) to get them ostracized.

But the person you're replying to probably already knew that and is asking rhetorically because they're bitter.

You would have a point if not for the whole career damaging slander part.

>>20518233
Maybe I’m just use to cold hard stops. I’ve officiated too many swimming meets and played too much tournament poker to have any remorse for those that get DQ’d or lose.

>>20500860

>>20518021
>If a big name has beef with someone tiny unless there's extensive proof documenting literally everything there's a very high chance that the smaller person with significantly less clout is going to walk out of the exchange ruined.
This is already lynch mentality. Im talking about sorting things out PERSONALLY with the people who wrong you, not bringing it to the drama colosseum that is twitter on the first opportunity.

>>20518246
If you need the person you have problems with to be ruined before you can talk about the things they did to you then what is the point?
You are just a shitty scaveger looking for pity

>>20518811
>DM Saruei personally
>Get told to fuck off
Wow! It's like there's a reason that wouldn't work and you're a socially maladjusted infant.

>>20518811
Can I get a Saru in gladiator armor shouting to the colosseum audience, “Are you not entertained?!”

>>20517883
>>20518147

Darius, aka Mori, is a ftm tranny, so you can't expect them to be a sound individual. Who knows why Saru keeps zhey around, maybe it's just an attachment thing, like she knew her so long.

Just listen to her here https://twitter.com/WifiThief_/status/1497649517050699783?cxt=HHwWjoC93aCT3MgpAAAA

>>20518811
>This is already lynch mentality
Also the mentality of democracies and unions. Surely you're not that obtuse to realize a lot of smaller/weaker people need to use numbers to stand up to one big person or organization It's not anything new, see in recent history:
>Newegg Online Store
>Ellen Degeneres
Or do you also think it's also drama vultures conspiring to take down a computer parts company?

>>20518878
>DM Saruei personally
>Get told to fuck off
Did they tho?

>>20517801
>You ask why your were Disqualified.
>You get told you used steroids, with 0 evidence to back their claims.
>You know you didn't use steroids and this can be a big stain that could hurt your career.
>take it like a bitch.
>blacklisted from other competitions.
>reputation damaged beyond repair.
>no job nor money.
>all because you took it like a bitch.
You ask for an explanation so you know what's going on and you don't shut up in front of false accusations because they can fuck you for life.

>>20519240
more like
>dm a mod personally
>get told to fuck off
>saruei wouldve also said fuck off since she defended the mods actions in public.

>>20519190
My point is that you stand up after you have already sorting things out diplomatically and failed; If you never tried and you just waited until shit blew up then you are a vulture, simple as.

>>20519764
>Americans are vultures because they didn't give up after they asked Britain for independence and Britain said no to them.
Ugh, such drama queens.

>>20520030
Not even remotely what I said, and you say it as if America isnt a fucking mistake.

>>20517769
I don't think there's any language where saying you could get an editor on fiverr after the interviewee bows out isn't rude.

>>20520149
who fucking cares if someone is rude. just dont watch them. dont turn it into weeks long drama

>>20519454
Did that happen for all the other cases tho?

>>20520274
Twitter. And most people outside 4chan and simps. No matter how much you whine about it being unfair, or how much you disparage them, that doesn't change.

>>20520322
she told a guy who wanted to do editing for her to fuck off because he wasnt already watching her streams.
the other cases were much more general shittiness (more so i didnt feel like reading through them).
but considering how badly she handled these situations, its probably similar shittiness, not to the same level obviously since they only came out with it after she got into shit and it wasnt worth starting shit with.

Imagine simping for a piece of shit.

>>20517769
The ESL excuse can only get you so far, she has been speaking english for years so there's no way she doesn't know of to not know that she's being disrespectful. Add to it that she's acting like this in writing where you can actually read your messages before sending them, she knows very well what she's saying.
>>20520872
She was a bitch to a dude who wanted to do editing because he wasn't already watching her streams even when that wasn't even part of requirements listed on her tweet recruiting editors or her form for applicants.

It's best if this bitch never returns

Talk shit, get hit. Simple as.

>>20500860
wah desu

>>20521396
N-no, but you don't understand, they're just vultures and crybabies for being mean to someone who was mean to them!

As soon as i see a Saruei thread, its more people shitting than her faggot discord white knights.
Lets keep it like that, btw its Darius 3rd day not logging (Tranny has no life and the first thing he does is turn on discord). Did he...

>>20500860
fpbp

This is what I've gathered so far
>argh she used mean words while telling us the truth!? let's all get together to get rid of her we're just doing the same thing hehe
Did I miss anything?

>>20524872
you missed the whole tracing accusation, so only 90% of it

>>20524872
That pretty much sums it up.

Also, the French and Germans still very much hate each other