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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Nijisanji Auditions have opened up, applications are due on the 31st.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1499610591953969153 (embed)

Hololive Auditions have opened up too
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

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>>20431136
>>20432156
>>20432279
>>20432957

yellow cat's DM's and conversations streams reveal him to be falseflagging as a sexual predator/schizo LARP on /vt/ while advertising for Nijisanji EN's "VTuber referral" program for increased favoritism to his application.

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>> No.20443686

>>20442913
>samefagging this hard just to get some attention
please kill yourself already

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ANYCOLOR Inc.
Midtown East 11F, 9-7-2, Akasaka, Minato-ku, Tokyo 107-0052 Japan
Marketing Department

Hello! My is Riku Tazumi, I am a talent scout for YouTubers and Streamers on behalf of ANYCOLOR Inc., Our group has recently been considering you, SwissedToast Ch., among 10 other candidates for our Nijisanji EN Gen. 4 tryouts! If you are perhaps interested in our official tryouts this coming March, please fill out this form at https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/contact and e-mail me at rikutazumi@nijisanji-en.com! We look forward to hearing from you, keep staying strong and thank you for uploading such a fun and exciting audition!

Sincerely, Riku Tazumi,

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>>20443686

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>>20443686
be frendy yellow cat

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>> No.20444486

>>20443686
who are you quoting?

>> No.20444746

>>20443896
>>20443949
>>20444486
>posters 2
please, please kill yourself

>> No.20444862

>>20444746
I'll go ahead and throw myself into the ring as IP number 3 here, I'm so tired of this asshat shitting up /asp/ and wish he'd fuck off.

>> No.20445116

>>20444862
I feel like it's only getting worse. I just come here, see he's shitting up the thread (or someone framing him, I don't care which at this point) and just fucking leave. It's like a coordinated effort to completely fuck these threads and I miss the Lore/Design timeloops at this point

>> No.20445235

>>20445116
I'm just hoping he'll finally get a vacation, we'll just have to see

>> No.20445248

>>20444862
i hope the tranny jannies finish dilating soon and get to this retard

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>>20445116
Plenty of design, stream links, and the usual has been posted, or are you saying that there's been less recently? It's just mostly male and babiniku unless yellow cat is somehow affecting content posting.

>> No.20445317

Goodnight /asp/

>> No.20445343

>>20445116
>>20444862
honestly if it wasn't for the amount of really obvious samefagging and self replying i wouldn't mind but yeah i wish he would fucking leave to
it was refreshing to see the thread earlier today with a significantly reduced amount of yellowcat
whether or not he actually got banned or just stopped spamming his same 10 shitty images i don't really care its just embarrassing to look at

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Has anyone else tried converting their vroid into different filetypes?

>> No.20445562

Why are so many artists unwilling to do mechanical designs? I'm not looking for a full detailed mech or anything, just a cute mascot character like those Boston Dynamics Spot robot dogs

>> No.20445639

>>20445116
The retard is the thread OP, they are forever fucked. See ya /asp/, it was nice loreposting alongside you.

>> No.20445805

>>20445639
i'm sorry i was too slow to make the new thread... the fag did say two threads ago that he wasn't the one making these ops but also i don't really trust anything he says in the first place

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>>20445562
It requires you actually know how to draw detailed perspective properly is one, it's a lot of work.

>> No.20446004

>>20445805
I was the second IP and the OP always counts as the first IP. So yeah, it was him. What makes it sadder to think he purposefully wants to be labeled as a ''schizo''. I say we call him a retarded nigger from now on.

>> No.20446044

>>20445805
I only use the pic in OP when I make a thread or re-use existing /asp/-relevant pics. Like the other retards said, they can do anything and have it all blamed on yellow cat lol. At the least it serves a purpose in bumps, it's not like I don't post normally without a pic either.

>> No.20446137

It's kind of your own fault if you derail the thread every time he shows up. Why don't you just continue as you were?

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>>20445317
Oyasumi, anon

>> No.20446352

Why bother with commissioning artists for PNGs or full models when I can just rip game assets and rig them myself?
https://files.catbox.moe/w1tkg2.mp4

>> No.20446374

>>20446137
he'll self reply to himself anyway so i might as well shit on him regardless while everyone else is
i'll resume as normal in the morning

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>>20446137
>seven of the thread's first eight posts were one person samefagging themselves

>Why don't you just continue as you were?

>> No.20446528

>>20446352
If you don't know why already, go for it.

>> No.20446561

>>20446137
in the perfect world, we would all ignore the retard and he would eventually leave, but the dude is dedicated to being known as the number one /asp/ nigger. If he wants to become famous he should shoot himself on stream.

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>>20445116
>>20446561
>>20446417
There are a couple retards that treat /asp/ as their private shitting hole but I assure you that I at least post on topic (most of the time). There are likely some /v/ retards and the like that drifted in from the front page that only know how to shitpost to try to make me leave.

For the record, I am not the guy spamming spongebob, low-effort reddit or /b/ meme OPs, and otherwise just behaving crazy beyond the obvious. Quite clearly I want my name associated with shitposting, maybe it'll go away then as "just yellow cat at it again". I don't care to win online arguments with anonymous strangers. I do however, self post the same pictures because of lack of content and not all /asp/ies lurk every single thread. I'm from r/a/dio, /jp/, /ak/, and /o/. So fuck off or something and post /asp/ or get one on with ya mate. I care about the communities I frequent. Don't shit the bed.

>> No.20447265

Useful Links (tentative):

https://workshop.bilibili.com/
https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
https://learnmmd.com/http:/learnmmd.com/convert-vroid-studio-to-mmd-with-one-click/
https://vtuber.gg/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006H92QK
https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=12008973
https://bad-dragon.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_security
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopaminergic_pathways

>> No.20447617

>>20447160
>There are a couple retards that treat /asp/ as their private shitting hole
yes, you. Stop trying to damage control retard. You will never be ''le funny schizo''. You are boring and annoying. Again, kys.

>> No.20448076

Is there anywhere else that's good to discuss vtuber aspirations? I saw the link to Lance's discord get posted here but I didn't really trust it enough to accept the invite since it was posted here.

>> No.20448202

>>20448076
aspcord isn't even a place to discuss vtuber aspirations. it's a friend group of aspies and they treat it like any other social hangout discord with in jokes and occasional menhera rants.

>> No.20448493

>>20448202
Well dang, that's not exactly what I'm looking for.

Enjoy your threads, OP

>> No.20448865

>>20444862
I been reporting him since he first appeared but nothing. Report and ignore him.

>> No.20448953

>>20445562
They don't have the expertise for it. Look for someone on twitter who draws mecha and DM them.

>> No.20448988

>>20448202
>it's a friend group of aspies and they treat it like any other social hangout discord with in jokes and occasional menhera rants.
its barely even that anymore considering how inactive it is in there

>> No.20449047

>>20447617
where did the yellow cat touch you?

>> No.20449105

>>20448493
See you tomorrow

>> No.20449180

>>20447617
>Everything I don't like is one person!

>> No.20449366

>>20448988
>considering how inactive it is
must be why they risked putting out a 24 hour open invite link. fell for yellow cat's bullshit about ~15 aspies and tried to get them to join the aspcord before they fell in with yellow cat's cult.

>> No.20449504

>>20449047
>>20449180
>only 3 more IPs after my post
you aren't even trying anymore.

>> No.20449524

I like that I posted exactly one (1) SpongeBob and that it got under this retard's skin badly enough to post about it as if I had posted one million Bobs.

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>>20449366
What do you want me to do schizo detective, post the names of everyone in the cult that's primarily for commissions, networking, and stocks to prove something to you? I had my link and tag public since day 1. You just have to prove that you have the initiative and can function as a content creator by contacting me first for me to reply if you're a forever TBA/NGMI with no adaptability. Get some help, Lance.

https://discord.gg/2ytC5Xt

>> No.20450277

I miss the old /asp/ies, "stream some more" /asp/ies,
Effort and soul /asp/ies, set in their goals /asp/ies.

I hate the new /asp/ies, menhera mood /asp/ies,
Shit discord too /asp/ies, schizo 2-views /asp/ies.

>> No.20450357

>>20450277
Me too. This is probably the last one I'm gonna post in

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unironically menhera numberfaggers.

>> No.20450698

>>20450277
It's auditions season, spring break for college, and people use discord, what do you want me to say? Thing have changed and will change.

>> No.20450791

>>20446137
>>20450698
Hmm... Damn bratty yellow cat...!!! Babiposting in my thread. Rape correction is needed...

>> No.20451130

ah, it makes sense why yellow cat stopped responding, i hope you are safe you were a cool person to talk to for little while we had a chat.

>> No.20451374

>>20448076
Honestly message mightygerm on twitter and ask for an invite to the viewercord. Ironically it's a better place to talk about vtuber aspirations than goddamn /asp/cord that lance runs.

>> No.20451387

my favorite thing about that discord/steam screenshot is that the schizo has just chosen not to look at messages sent to him over a day ago to stockpile unread messages
very weird flex

>> No.20451441

>>20451374
Groomercord/ everything you say is screencapped?

>> No.20452034

when is hololive app due?

>> No.20452116

>>20452034
there is no due date, they're permanently open.

>> No.20452843

>>20438976
>>20439865
>>20440428
Half vocaloid and half my voice
Ina's "Violet" is the easiest song I have lyrics for
https://voca.ro/12FwJqAxQa56

>> No.20453331

>>20452034
There is no due date. Holo EN Council auditions were announced Feb-March, Twitter accounts were created on June, Youtube accounts on July and teaser video's were created on August. Applications are permanently open.

>> No.20453820

I used to like reading these threads but that fucking cat is so ugly to look at and annoying and everytime I see him I want to leave immediately

>> No.20453942

>>20453820
Same here. I also find the OP image completely tasteless because you know there's no way in hell that they're paying their own rent

>> No.20454093

>>20453331
To be fair, they probably created the characters and accounts way before they finally finished auditions

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How much would you pay for a character design + full body art?

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Hey /asp/

What makes a good rigger? Currently in the process of having the finalized design of my model made and then I'll be in the market for a rigger. Budget is 800 - 1k

>> No.20454447

>>20454373
Completely depends on the quality and art style.

>> No.20454484

>>20454413
It should be pretty clear from their past work if they're a good rigger or not.

>> No.20454631

>>20454413
look up gezugezu or kevinx, they're some of the best riggers around today

>> No.20454710

>>20454373
full body like this i would be 100% fine with paying $650-800 for just the art as long as everything is layered properly. i can see about 8 layers for the eyes which is a good base. both sets of teeth along with a tongue.

expressions are actually the weakest part of the model and could be more exaggerated, especially the mouth. surprise and sorrow don't look that different other than the eyebrows. happy can be rigged to be better by bringing up the lower eyelids to simulate the push up effect that your cheeks have when smiling so i won't really comment on that.

weirdly most of the rigging shit is focused on the lower half of the body with the belts and straps. you probably save money by asking for those not to be rigged even if your artist includes them as separated layers. it really seems like ~$100 worth of effort waste unless you do something to show off that lower body detail on most of your streams. this is why the most common design is to keep in mind that your model will be viewed chest and up 90% of the time. you can zoom out really far to include everything in the frame but that just reduces the visibility of your expressions.

>> No.20454793

>The best Vroids try their hardest to look as 2D as possible
>The best Live2Ds try their hardest to emulate 3D movement
Where's the sweet spot?

>> No.20454800

>>20454093
They may have decided on names and themes ahead of time but they still have to do a lot of work in between. Takes 5+ months I guess

>> No.20454877

>>20454800
Sounds about right. 3 months for auditions to whittle it down to 5, then 1-2 months to get all the onboarding and training sorted

>> No.20454935

>>20454413
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdh4zjhesY4gdUiyyWsCuXPn-zt9zEMoQzZDApwiY8w/edit#heading=h.vy0fz33una2d

>> No.20456002

How difficult is it to make live2D avatars? I've accepted that I'll never become a chuuba but making avatars sounds more manageable. Can I just make random ones and then sell them if someone wants them?

>> No.20456030

>>20456002
>making avatars
do you mean that art or the rigging because they're 2 very different things. if you're starting from zero don't try to do both.

>> No.20456214

>>20456030
I'm an artist already so I meant learning rigging on top of that and making the whole package.

>> No.20456246

>>20456214
whether you make it or not will depend on how good you are at marketing yourself.

>> No.20456651

>>20456002
It's not that difficult, I learned basics in less than a week
And yes you absolutely can, look up vtuber adoptables on twitter

>> No.20456749

>>20456651
Any good tutorials or other resources for getting started you could recommend?

>> No.20457406

>>20456749
The first ever tutorial I've watched and learned the most from was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZT-fky258

But I also recommend kira omori and Emma akatsuki for the basics and then Yoshino art for advanced stuff like track able arm rigging, eye physics, hip wiggle

When you get a hold of the basics you can watch people like 2wintails and dya rikku when they stream so you can pick up their tricks

>> No.20457552

>>20454373
I don't blink when it comes to 5k wristwatches, but I'm having a hard time justifying anything above 400 for a full body live 2d model. It's like my brain still can't rationalize the cost since the artist's skill develops over time and artstyle trend changes really fast

>> No.20457569

>>20457406
Many thanks.

>> No.20458113

I think I have everything ready to start, I hope my accent is understandable and I can do my English repetitions, although I could do things in Spanish as well.

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Anyone have any good news and achievements to share?

My character design and PNG/GIF was completed yesterday and less than 24 hours I was accepted for an all-in-one model plus Live2D package with an artist and rigger DEFINITELY undercharging.

Bad news I tried to drum up some PNG hype and it didn't go so well but I'll take it on the chin and keep pushing it!

>> No.20458821

>>20453820
Atleast it’s not the bluecat from wvt that thing is hideous.

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>>20458504
yhea my model is ready and mic and my game capture arrives tomorrow and i'm going to setup the stream and info and try to start by sunday

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>>20442500
What are the vtuber buffs? Other than being a girl.

>> No.20459623

>>20459312
Male vtuber with sexy voice?
Previous content before being vtuber?
Money?
A handful of rich simps?
Actually good at vidya?
List goes on

>> No.20460182

It's time for today's lesson!

What should you do when you have no content?

The normal advice of "Just create" is correct, but not very useful. There can be a million reasons why you wouldn't, either based on your current hardward not supporting it, your PNG not being ready, or you not being brave enough to face the internet (despite being on 4ch?).

There are multiple forms your content can be. Let's have a look through them!

0 - Tweets.
I don't view tweeting out statements and 'lore' as content, anons. Some people do, and, to be fair, it's not like I don't follow some comedians myself! But if all you're doing is tweeting out just words, then I would put this as very unlikely to get you any viewers, followers, or growth (beyond the initial, I suppose).

1 - Memes.
This is only a slight step up from tweeting. Your design should have a simple motif that is easy enough to copy around into other media. Perhaps distinctive glasses, or a colour pattern, or animal ears. You can then put this onto the meme, and use it everywhere online to get eyes on you. This might cause some growth, but you are not really creating content, so much as reacting to it.

2 - "wiggle clips"
Do you have a model? Does your model move?
Then you should take a lesson from Artemis, or the new one (Nana?). Make a video of you moving side to side and showing off the model. Maybe use some free assets, but you don't have to. Put these out daily.
As a note, this will NOT work if your model is dull, or does not move. It would be boring to watch.
This will also work less if you are male.

3 - Offline Streams
This is a big jump from the previous step, as you are now producing full content, what is this?
Much like a stream is when you go live, and put your content out onto Twitch so that people can find you, this is the exact same thing. However, you only record locally. This means that nobody else sees it.
But what is the point? I hear you ask!
Very simple, the point is twofold:
a - This lets you review your extended content (and get used to your voice). Are you good at filling air, even when nothing is happening, or are you silent during loading screens? Are you able to explain what steps you are taking, and why; or do you rely on everyone else being able to read your mind? This is very important, and a lot of smaller streamers will never do this
b - This lets you produce

4 - Shortform content
This could probably have been bundled in with the "wiggle clips", but I thought this would benefit from having an entry to itself.
Again, this can be further split into two different sorts of shortform:
c - Clips. Taken from streams, whether they be online or offline, and funny moments that have happened during them. You can of course just use the clip raw, but you can also make edits to them, whether that be through subtitles, extra sound effects, or whatever else your imagination can conjure up.
d - Deliberate content. Whether this be you doing the "we won't divorce" meme, or lipsynching, or the b-i-m-b-o song, this is all created specifically from non-stream video feeds. You have made this to upload from being offline.

5 - Online streams
You should know what this is, and why it will be helpful in getting you to grow.

6 - Art, and other skill-shares.
Doing a stick-man figure of Ironmouse and then @ing her is a bad way of doing this. But if you do some good artwork of vtubers, and use their art-tag, then you will get a lot of
One of the best ways to get people to see you, is to have someone else point you out. You will attract some of their crowd. Yes, you could call this leeching, or clout chasing, but so long as you are careful with how you go about it, you should be okay.
Look at this art piece of DyaRikku. It has 228 likes, and 20 retweets. But the artist only has 160 followers
By having other people shine a light on you, there will be some growth. But much like any focus, they will only be there for the art. They might come to like your other things, but they were drawn by the fanart.

>> No.20460210

>>20460182
I am sorry, the link fell out. Here it is, my apologies:
https://twitter.com/Murramao/status/1503985951642730499

>> No.20461178

my rigger is at uni and is taking a while. Im not being an ass to him and saying take your time but I still just wanna stream ahhh

>> No.20461351

>>20461178
Did you get a png of your model from your artist? You *could* stream with that, but I understand if you want your whole character ready first.

>> No.20461982

>>20461351
I could but I wanna have the full model. I'm useing this time to work on other stream assets as well so its not all bad

>> No.20463689

>>20459312
Talks a lot

>> No.20464180

>>20461982
Well i hope you get it soon, and good luck on streaming anon!

>> No.20464711

>>20454373
it depends on the artist. the one I picked had an unique artstyle and captured the aesthetic I wanted really well.
they sent me 10 different design ideas based on a description of what I wanted and I picked my favorite. a few minor changes and my design was done.
I paid roughly 1500€ for the fullbody art and design.

>> No.20466302

>>20464711
May i ask who you commissioned for the art? I've been looking at mid-grade and high-grade artists, but I haven't really found any i liked costing above 1000.

>> No.20467135

goodmorning /asp/

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>>20467135
Good morning!
I need to put shading and highlights back in

>> No.20469655

I think singing this song will be cool for audition, since Holo/Niji is Japanese company and we're trying to join EN brand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2_qB-VyxFo

>> No.20472573
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20472573

bumpo

>> No.20473113

>>20457552
>drawing on trends
>not having your own style and stick to it
"artists" like these deserve to starve

>> No.20473231

>>20454413
a good rigger is a dead rigger.

>> No.20473338

>>20459623
>Actually good at vidya?
Name one single vtuber people watch because he's good at video games.

>> No.20473414

Any good chuuba artists that do males well? I picked out a few I liked, but I wanted to see if there were any others that I'm missing before I choose one in April

>> No.20474151

>>20460182
>This will also work less if you are male.
Because wiggling is a cute(female) thing. I'm sure there are things to do befitting of a man.
I'm not ready yet but when I'll be I'll try to emulate how the muppets move for my "wiggling" videos as my character is basically a muppet. I also know it works because of voxis prod's tosspot.

>> No.20475064

>>20473338
C9 Vienna was a masters/GM league of legends player so she was able to drum up some popularity around that. Obviously she's not Challenger but it's respectable in the community.

>> No.20475474

Does twitter send a notification if you @ someone in your bio?

>> No.20476139

>>20475474
no

>> No.20476263

>>20475474
No

>> No.20476505

>>20475474
Yes. Every time you tweet, or get tagged, it'll loop them in too.

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