/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>20410709
who is she anon?

>>20410709
She wouldn't have made the cut, Bae is just better.

>>20410709
Her friend can try to get her in next gen, assuming that Sana didn't fuck it up for all future nepotism hires.

>>20410709
What was the story with MyHolo? I know Mio and the rest of her gen graduated at the same time and are doing much better.

>>20411227
>Bae is just better.
She unironically isn't
Miori is both more fun to watch and also a much better singer

Why do you care so much about all these other vtubers not being in hololive? Either watch them or stick to your own vtubers.

As much as I love miori i don't want her to be in holo. I love her unhinged drinking streams and the shit she says when she's totally drunk. I don't want corpos to take my beertuber but i do agree she is better than Bae in a lot of aspects and is severely under the radar for someone with more than 150k subs.

Is there a word for the vtuber equivalent of portbegging?

>>20412834
They are mindless consumer npc who can't think on their own

>>20410709
link to channel pls

>>20411227
No, Bae spoke Japanese and that's what Hololive was looking for when filling the chaos spot.

>>20413388
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyKsg-57XC9pyHbP7v3kCPQ

>>20413400
miori was in in Tsunderia for months already before Bae debut, she didn't even try to audition for Hololive but yeah, she is overqualified if something happens to tsunderia

>>20413485
I wonder if Miori did try for Hololive. She mentioned she tried for Nijisanji KR for Ban Hada's avatar at the same time with Tsunderia, but Tsunderia got back to her faster.

I think she just likes her model too much, only one that bought the rights to it and Tsunderia was like "sure, you can keep it" while if trying for HoloEN her only hope would be to get Suisei's treatment who only got to keep her model through a loophole in INNK

>>20411715
Yeah that's why she's stuck in 2 view hell right?

>>20413910
I heard Moon Jelly is also autistically attached to her model. What the fuck is their problem?

>>20413957
She is gonna have more more subs than Sana and some Niji /vt/ sisters in 3 months though

>>20414001
the best part about Moonjelly is with each new version her model gets somehow worse

>>20414001
I can understand Miori's because her avatar is pure sex, but what the hell Jelly?

>>20414001
SOVL

>>20414013
Good, we need more ammo.

>>20414001
Unironically sovl, the one time it can be applied. Fallenshadow also likes her cunny model so there's clearly a trend where indies are attached to the models they created.

>>20413957
at 200k subs and like 2-3k live viewers on average she is a 4view

>>20412834
Hololive steamers are boring and they feel guilty watching other Vtubers due to sever brand loyalty

>>20410709
In exchange for those 1M subs and much larger platform there's the extremely likely chance she'd hardly resemble the version that people like in Tsun. I heard she got shitfaced on stream and then talked about being put in a mating press? Hololive fans (even on this board) would rip her to spreads for that and call her wannabe Vshoujo.

>>20413957
Miori has had massive growth for someone her size. I think she went from 30k to 180k in 8 months.

Miori's been grinding out content and working smart. She's been doing a lot of shorts to take advantage of the Youtube algorithm. Some of the shorts have have gotten 300k-500k views with two that just massively blew up with 2.2 million and 1 million views.

As a BeerPal, I love all the covers and originals she's been outputting recently. And I can't wait until she goes on her 1-year break from school so she can focus on her music.

>>20412834
There's nothing wrong in pointing out the few diamonds in the rough.

>>20410709
>4view
>doomed
You need to get your head checked.

>>20412834
They want their oshiis to achieve success

>>20414620
hololive is not any form of standard. please stop comparing lesser vtubers to them like "oh she's so good she should be in hololive". yes this is where money and fame belong but, surprise, many vtubers do that as just a hobby and not their primary job, some like that even actually belong to hololive.
hololive is very specific school of vtubing, barely comparable with what many desire or do, just like miori, many indies and lesser corpos or half of nijisanji. what you like your "honorable holo" for might be impossible to pull off in cover.
god i fucking hate holobronies.

"why didn't she just join hololive"
"why didn't she just get that really cushy job"
"why didn't she just win the lottery"

>>20411602
Pretty sure the main reason was that the company was forcing them to play characters way too strictly and it was stifling their content. Just look at how differently Baelz acts compared to Marica, if it weren't for the accent I don't think anybody would've ever figured out they were the same person.

>>20414334
Kiara hasn't made it very secret that she likes smaller vtubers

>>20415050
Yes
Yes
Yes

>Hey this girl is cool, it'd be nice if she was in Hololive hypothetically
>For some reason this makes /vt/ lose their fucking minds
??????

>>20414986
Nah, I think I'll keep doing it since it makes you this angry for some reason.

Hololive is a terrible choice, they would nerf Mio very hard.
Tsunderia lets her do whatever she wants and that's exactly why she's doing well.

>>20415258
Isn't it amazing how choice of words can completely change what's essentially the same sentiment?

>>20415258
>Hey this girl is cool, it'd be nice if she was in Hololive hypothetically
You might've had a point if this was anywhere close to what OP actually said, but it isn't, so you don't

>>20415258
it's extremely hard to join hololive today and it's not everyone's ambition. the moment you realize it is the moment the world becomes a better place.
>>20415296
god i fucking hate holobronies even harder.

>>20415438
Are you OP? How can you speak on his behalf for what he meant?

Desu I just think a collab with her, Bae and MJ would be nice.

>>20415574
>joined a dead-end agency
>doomed
>she fucked up
yeah bro, very ambiguous connotations here, OP's true intent is truly an enigma

She must be doing well enough to warrant a Holofag trying to knock her.

I still want Pomu, Rosemi and Selen in Hololive since they're wasted in Niji. I don't care if I'm a Holobronies I think they deserve success.

>>20414986
What is she doing so different that can't be compared to Hololive?

>>20410709
If she was any good she'd be in Hololive, it's a simple fact.
The fact that she has pisspoor viewercounts and subs means that she's literally worse than Sana in every single metric and talent. Not that it's a high bar to match.

>>20414334
>2-3k live viewers
What the hell are you smoking? She has around 500 at best. She is a 3view.

>>20417009
Meant for >>20416767

Reminder to always shit on any holobrony like him >>20413957
Cause council itself proves HoloEN has no quality control like HoloJP
your small corpo oshi just didn't win the lottery/had a friend working for hololive

>>20416424
Gets drunk on stream.

>>20417078
Meant actually for>>20414277
Idk why this happens...

>>20417100
Seethe eternally 2 view.
>>20417009
So they're lying about the numbers too kek?

>>20416767
Do you think the vshojo girls are better the 6th gen?

>>20413710
She’s mentioned she “pussied out” of hololive auditions because she thought she wasn’t good enough.

>>20417159
>Seethe eternally 2 view
>When a holoJP fan shits on you ENfaggotery and you can't talk shit back
>resorts to call said anon a seething vtuber
eternally cope EOP sanalite

>>20414061
Wtf. Why did she make her boobs so big and get ugly glasses? The pink hair is fine, but the blue was cuter

I want her to succeed outside of Hololive to prove that it's possible to find success starting from scratch, without joining an already established giant corpo. I don't want Hololive to be seen as some sort of elite league that only assembles the best of the best; I want people to look beyond the scope of Hololive and see that there are other wonderful vtubers out there doing their own thing. Miori is just one example.

>>20417903
Even in Japan the success outside of Hololive is limited. It'll be years before any of these small corpos get their name out there.

>>20417903
>I don't want Hololive to be seen as some sort of elite league that only assembles the best of the best;
Extremely late on this one. Hololive IS vtubing in the west.

>>20410709
She's good. Not everyone needs to be in hololive

>>20416053
>They can support themselves through streaming alone
If that isn't success for a streamer then what is?
>>20416424
Holo EN is sanitized. She has been hammering away with a lot of drinking streams recently, and she tends to private/delete some amount of them.

>>20410709
No, she has standards. Not everyone wants to make content for children and ledditors.

>>20414277
Stop fucking lying, the only thing she has going for her are worthless shorts that bring no money and bring low quality subscribers that are only there for the shorts. Her original song has 25k views and her VODs are substantially worse than Anya’s.
We don’t want this bitch in Hololive, same goes for the people wanting Pomu or Rosemi in Hololive they’re delusional saviorfags that get banned out of hlgg for their off topic bullshit.

>>20410709
ehhhh

>>20410709
>Dare to say, she fucked up?
She almost certainly applied and was rejected.
Probably in favour of Sana.

>>20414620
Then watch them, I swear you guys are worst than homobeggars

>>20414986
The thing is, hololive has the biggest audience and can pull out the full potential sub of a chubba

>>20411715
>Shitting on Miori's friend
Anon, she could be reading this post.

>>20414497
When was the mating press stream?

>>20417429
which is why she'll never join hololive. She doesn't have enough ego to actually want in enough.

Why would anyone want to join Hololive?

>>20428458
Time to check the archive because she took that stream down.

>>20433525
moolah. dosh. cash.
and one example of chasing a specific dick

>>20433525
Holobronies delusional, they think everyone loves hololive and want to be in but in reality, nobody cares, like Lulu's case

>>20410709
Boyfriend.

>>20436849
She wishes

>>20411227
No she isn't lol, you can't be serious

>>20414001
>Moonjelly
her model filters me so badly. It's well-drawn and the design is cute but those proportions are so uncanny

>>20411715
>>20436907
You're blinded by Miori's aggressive GFE. Bae is a much better streamer and a natural entertainer. Miori has pretty good chat interaction but that's about it. She's kind of a one trick pony when it comes to getring drunk and being sexual on stream.

>>20438011
No she fucking isn't. Miori is entertaining and charismatic as fuck. Bae is awful in every way, to the point of being unwatchable.

>>20438432
Dumb whore can't go one stream without showing her panties. 200k subscribers just from coomerbait shorts.

>>20436900
She's talked about one of her ex's before. She's used goods.

Miori is a whore using shorts to bait coomers and lonely men into using her as emotional prostitution. If you know what's good for you you wont' buy into this bullshit.

The agency is stagnant mostly because of lazy cunts like Purin.

>>20411227
>make pee pee poo poo jokes
>joining hololive
lol get fucked

>>20438879
Miori is the drunk girl at the bar you're hitting on. She's hot and sexy as fuck. She's not doing the emotional prostitution, that's literally what hololive talents do.

>>20423557
Fuck off nigger I'd take Pomu and Rosemi over fucking Sana and Kronii any day. I'm not a slave to a brand so I can admit that Council has bland and lackluster members.

>>20438639
>>20438879
She baits with some of the shorts because it gets the numbers for more exposure. More numbers mean that YouTube will recommend her videos to new viewers. She's just playing the game for more exposure. Many of her new subscribers only really tune in for her karaoke streams. She's aware and working on how to retain viewers. Miori doesn't have the branding of a big corp for exposure so she has to do the hard grind and it's paying off.

>>20438639
Shes one of the few who do high quality cover shorts

>>20439857
>paying off
Tsun bro, you're starting to sound like that Nijicope pasta

>>20440086
The only one, if I’m being honest. I have yet to see anyone else do them on the same level as hers both audio and video wise, unless she helps make them like for her agencymates.

>>20411227
>hating any of the super talented myholo gen2 girls over the other

I like Miori.
I like Baelz.
I like Moon Jelly.
I'm glad all three of them are better off now.
I hope they'll all get to collab again if they want to.

>>20439380
Bar Wench Experience?

>>20441068
Spam Bae with akasupas and get her to annoy her manager. It'll be hard since it's two people instead of one but maybe after a year she'll get an official denial

>>20440249
there are definitely others, but miori seems to be the most prolific of them

>>20441911
Links? I kinda like watching them.

>>20414538
>Miori's been grinding out content and working smart.
"smart". Shorts are good publicity, but she doesn't really have all that much besides that. *especially* in music, one of her better skills.

She's squandering it through some menhera/sloth setup.

>>20441973
prisms shiki
(ex)cyberlive lumi

>>20441315
Mori managed Bruteforce her Milky Queen collab, so this is definitely possible. Unlike Nijisanji, Tsunderia isn't a rival company. Would be funny if a small corpo outpaced a NijiEN.

>>20440086
shiki is better

>>20441315
>Spam Bae with akasupas
Sure way to annoy her into never doing it. Retard.

>>20442307
>Tsunderia isn't a rival company
The second one of them inclines to Niji level you can bet that'll change.

>>20442625
Honestly? I want the small corpos to incline to the Niji level, more competition is healthy and compels everyone to seek different audiences instead of relying on trickle-down viewers from Hololive and cannibalizing each other in the process. And I'm saying this as a holobrony.

>>20442377
shiki is a better live singer, probably
miori produces "videos" to go with the songs, thats another level of effort

>>20442625
I mean Reimu is "Niji EN levels" but I don't think anyone is gonna panic is a small corpo occasionally hits 400 in a stream. I wouldn't consider them a "rival" until at least a handful can hit 1k, which is a long time off, if ever.

>>20442377
Don't care. Enna mogs them both.

>>20442846
In an ideal world this would happen, but instead we'll get 15 more Holowannabes that all sing and play games.

>>20443362
We always have option B;
If they all want to be Holowannabes, then holos need to do something new and have them copy it. Encourage Holos to play more niche games, more interesting streams and attract other hobbies and let the copycats do the proliferating. There are a finite amount of weebs in the world, and an even more finite number willing to watch vtubers. Get the fighting game crowd. Get the TTRPG crowd. Get the classical music or opera crowd. Get the metal crowd. I do not give a fuck, just expand the hobby and give everyone a vtuber that suits their taste.

>>20438432
lying is bad anon

>>20442307
>Tsunderia isn't a rival company
It is. It let's people see out of the Holo bubble on YouTube, and can be even more dangerous since the small corpos tend to collab with one another frequently.

>>20440199
Okay /#/fag.

>>20439787
Hi Vox

I think that if Council wasn't so fucking shit there would be less of these shit threads.
Bronies are bored because an entire EN gen outside Mumei and Bae is just complete trash

>>20415560
>it's extremely hard to join hololive today
It must not be because Council exist

>>20452642
They hire once every eight to twelve months with only five openings. That's pretty hard to get in.

>>20452735
and then waste them on people like Kronii and Sana

>>20452786
Don't bring Kronii into this, she's actually trying now. She's just autistic.

>>20452786
Sana just doesn't actually wanted to be a streamer, she has 1 year oblifation to Cover and the same day the contract expire she will graduate rather then resign it

>>20453153
That's the point, though. A girl auditioning for Hololive has to compete with the cream of the crop AND is realistically competing for 3-4 slots since there's always one or two guaranteed nepo hires.

>>20423557
>we

>>20442377
Too bad she mostly plays horror games, WHERE THE FUCK FIGHTING GAME STREAMS YOU PROMISED.

>>20452473
That's unironically been the best thing about Council though. Because they were so disappointing, basically every other EN vtuber company has seen growth in the past year. Former holo-only fans are finding themselves with spare time to watch streams when HoloEN isn't streaming, so they're looking at the wider market.

>>20417103
>>20420922
????
Lamy does regular drinking streams
Luna does drinking streams
there are even drunk collabs around

>>20454866
Yes >we ,I’m tired of these retards shitting up hlgg and other threads with their begging. Why can’t they watch who they want to watch without shoving them everywhere.