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>> No.20410102

Booooo, i want more cute Native American anime girl.

>> No.20410117
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.20410121

>Uki at 7.1k
>Fulgur at 5.4k
What's up with the spike in viewership?

>> No.20410173

>>20410121
no other homos on

>> No.20410186

>>20410002

Vox not getting 10k for Hades was kinda expected but Mysta sub 10k was a bad showing

>Reading fanfics on stream
>Absolute no overlap for the timeslot

>> No.20410224

Ah, peace

>> No.20410235

>>20410224
fuck you

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>>20410032
i only have this shit resolution

>> No.20410280

>>20410224
Bitch you thought
Good night, and good luck with the thread.

>> No.20410282
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>45,275: Marine (Hololive)
>43,295: Shion (Hololive)
>26,965: Kiara (Hololive)
>26,513: VSPO (VSPO)
>21,850: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,540: Miko (Hololive)
>20,239: Botan (Hololive)
>19,110: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,349: Suisei (Hololive)
>15,616: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,565: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,997: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,054: Mio (Hololive)
>12,867: Haachama (Hololive)
>12,643: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,553: Lui (Hololive)
>11,083: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>10,574: Nose (VSPO)
>10,098: Gatchman (Indie)

>> No.20410288

>>20410224
kys
Also I don't remember seeing the Paralympics tally for today

>> No.20410312

>>20410288
why are you reminding them

>> No.20410318

Pomu has a nice attention grabbing thumbnail for her first MGS stream. Curious to see how it performs.

>> No.20410330

>>20410186
Chinks are losing interest in him

>> No.20410354

>>20410312
So I could reply kys
Also EN tallies were pretty effective in preventing timeloops

>> No.20410413

>>20410186
Feels like their debut buff, or in their case chink women discovering them en masse a few weeks after debut buff, is finally wearing off. Of course they'll still settle well above the girls and Noctyx but we're seeing more reasonable numbers from them now.

>> No.20410416

>>20410282

>> No.20410420

>>20410186
can't survive on buffs forever, at some point you have to work on your floor even if it doesn't look pretty

>> No.20410474

>>20410186
I stopped watching Mysta when he became depressed as fuck. Is he still like that on stream? Recently I've only watched his collab with rpr and Vox and honestly rpr was doing the whole work there.

>> No.20410494

So there is one thing I don't get: Gura and Ntanners are both hated in vt, yet Nyanners seems to ask for it while Gura does not. What is the reason for Gura hate? Did she shit on 4chan too?

>> No.20410516

>>20410494
why are you asking this in the numbers thread

>> No.20410519
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20410519

the Marine hornyposting last thread has been pathetic. how the fuck do none of you have any good lewds of her?

>> No.20410525

>>20410186
That was surprising. React content is usually a buff.

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>>20410282
>>20410282
1st and 2nd position were tight tonight as well. Too bad the purple cunny with the horns didn't have any battery left for her switch, they could have reached Marine's peak.

>> No.20410567

for the guy last thread figuring out "watch time" you should correct your terminology, because what you are actually figuring out is hours or minutes watched. watch time is the one that actually shows up in their youtube analytics.

>> No.20410572

>>20410494
Fuck off retard

>> No.20410586

>>20410519
Bacause most of what I have are nsfw

>> No.20410599

>>20410494
Gura is not hated here, there are just a few schizos who don't like that she mogged their oshi, so they shitpost obsessively about Gura 24/7.

>> No.20410601

>>20410525
Maybe they're following Edengumi pattern of a long debut buff and an abrupt cliff

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>>20410519
makes me think the timelooping retard is just the Marine shizo trying to distract us from whats important

>> No.20410614

>>20410186
Chinks don't understand what's he saying

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>>20410494

>> No.20410639

20410032
using that one fully processed GTA VOD which unprocessed was slightly above average in retention would leave her at 11minute churn

>> No.20410657

>>20410494
Despite what most people here say, it's just so satisfying to see what Gura has achieved to this day.
Her journey feels like a Cinderalla story: From being a janitor and a failed children's show actress to performing on a big stage.

With other big ENvtubers, you just don't get that final gratification. But with Gura, Holo Fes 3 feels like the climax of her story. This is as anime as it gets.

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>27,020: Kiara (Hololive)
>9,861: Mori (Hololive)
>9,502: Kronii (Hololive)
>8,875: Vox (Nijisanji)
>8,242: IRyS (Hololive)
>7,968: Vox (Nijisanji)
>7,608: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>6,221: Luca (Nijisanji)
>6,200: Selen (Nijisanji)
>5,707: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,392: Mumei (Hololive)

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>>20410657
well, you did tell you would use it

>> No.20410688

>>20410666
kys >>20410354

>> No.20410690

>>20410639
>>20410032

>> No.20410717

>>20410666
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)
7. IRyS (Hololive) - 20,211 (Birthday party and Totsu)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 17,364 (Project Diva Mega Mix)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,491 (We Were Here w/Ike)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 19,133 (Ring Fit Adventure)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 16,530 (Unarchived Karaoke)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 16,109 (Elden Ring)
13. Mumei (Hololive) - 24,090 (UNO w/Gura, Ina, and Baelz)
14. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,202 (Birthday party and Totsu)
15. Mumei (Hololive) - 8,939 (Doom Eternal)
16. Ina (Hololive) - 14,467 (Elden Ring)
17. Kiara (Hololive) - 27,020 (3DVR Dance School w/Gura, Amelia, Ina, and Mori)

Hololive - 14
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

>> No.20410718

>>20410567
watch time is watch time, if you can`t calculate it right you don`t simply invert the name as "time watched" and say it is a different metric. It is a wrong calculation that means shit.

>> No.20410736

>>20410318
She'll do ok then stall out due to running headfirst into Ina Elden Ring.

>> No.20410737

>>20410666
>>20410717
kys

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>>20410282

>> No.20410759

Polka testing the buff powers of VS at 2am lol

>> No.20410777

>>20410688
>>20410737
kys

>> No.20410778

>>20410282
Chamer????? That's rare, hopefully she starts inclining from now!

>> No.20410805

>>20410666
>>20410717
kys

>> No.20410808

>>20410666
kys

>> No.20410811

>>20410666
Vox still haunted by Taiwan yab?

>> No.20410817

>>20410186
He probably filtered quite a lot fujos with that title.

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>>20410586
an understandable problem, but you should at least have the Sister Marine sfw pictures around right?
i know i have some good ones but my hololewds collection is at 2000+ pictures and not sorted at all

>> No.20410852

Elden Ring numbers seem to be getting better as time goes on. Viewers are probably done playing the game so they aren't afraid of spoilers I guess?

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found some

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>>20410657
More satisfying thing is she make schizos here seethe

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>>20410282

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>>20410666
>>20410717
>nijien swept (again)

>> No.20410979

>>20410759

Vampire Survivor at 2AM. Only the fennec could make this entertaining

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>>20410825
Fine, here

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>> No.20411006

>>20410494
Gura is not hated in /vt/ though

>> No.20411014
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>>20410666
kys

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>>20410282

>> No.20411026
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>>20410282

>> No.20411034

>>20410811
seems like it

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>>20410984
thats the spirit lad!

>> No.20411104

>full myth 3D mollab
>27k
>two brats shit talking each other
>43k
jesas

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>>20410282

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>>20410282

>> No.20411262

>>20410282
I wonder how much numbers a collab of Gura channel + Shion + Laplus on JP primetime could reach.

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>>20410282

>> No.20411296

>>20410666
*3 digits consolation prize*

Here it goes
>750: Nina (Nijisanji)
>740: Millie (Nijisanji)

>> No.20411318

>>20411296
No Reimu?

>> No.20411320
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>>20411174

>> No.20411326

>>20411262
20k

>> No.20411342

>>20411104
ESLchama...

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>>20411296

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>>20411318
No

>> No.20411395

>>20411104
No wonder the ENshitters had to make their own special olympics

>> No.20411408
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>> No.20411421

>>20410282
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>45,275: Marine (Hololive)
>43,295: Shion (Hololive)
>26,965: Kiara (Hololive)
>26,513: VSPO (VSPO)
>21,850: Kuzuha (NippleSanji)
>21,540: Miko (Hololive)
>20,239: Botan (Hololive)
>19,110: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,349: Suisei (Hololive)
>15,616: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,565: Fuwa (NippleSanji)
>14,997: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,054: Mio (Hololive)
>12,867: Haachama (Hololive)
>12,643: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,553: Lui (Hololive)
>11,083: Mayuzumi (NippleSanji)
>10,574: Nose (VSPO)
>10,098: Chad Gatchman (Indie)

>> No.20411434

>>20411326
And 2mi vod.

>> No.20411463

>>20411434
cope

>> No.20411472

>>20411383
What the hell does a membership revamp stream entail?

>> No.20411481

>>20410666
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>27,020: Kiara (Hololive)
>9,861: Mori (Hololive)
>9,502: Kronii (Hololive)
>8,875: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>8,242: IRyS (Hololive)
>7,968: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>7,608: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>6,221: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>6,200: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>5,707: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>5,392: Mumei (Hololive)

>> No.20411503

>>20411395
You ENschizo knows if it was on Gura's channel and streamed in US timezone would break 45k right?

>> No.20411519

>>20411296
*3 digits consolation prize*

Here it goes
>750: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>740: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)

>> No.20411529

>>20411503
>US timezone
What timezone was it? EU?

>> No.20411537
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20411537

>>20410282
Danjyarasu

>> No.20411564

>>20411472
The answer is in thumbnail.

>> No.20411568

>>20411529
Yeah Kiara timezone

>> No.20411573

>>20410494
Chumbuds are hated, Gura is just a victim of her retarded fanbase.

>> No.20411581

>>20411503
Except it didn't.
I blame Kiara, why are these events always on Kiara's channel

>> No.20411612

>>20410282
vox sama doko?

>> No.20411623
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>> No.20411676

>>20411612
*Bao Bao Sloppy Kisses*

>> No.20411696

>>20411564
I guess everything has to be a celebration.

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>> No.20411733

>>20411612
Here he is:

March superchats so far
>Vox - $97,678
>Koyori - $82,293
>Nene - $79,890
>Leos - $65,816
>Miko - $64,655
>Chloe - $55,711
>Akina - $48,928
>Luca - $43,766
>Shu - $41,669
>Kronii - $37,979
>Kana - $35,911
>Laplus - $34,712
>Iroha - $32,759
>kson - $31,644
>Lamy - $31,296

He got another 2K USD today.

>> No.20411762

>>20411503
So would Kuzuha had he played Apex on a deserted island while singing King

>> No.20411820

>>20411581
As a rule of thumb, the channel it appears on is usually indication of who suggested the collab in the first place, this also includes songs.

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>>20410282

>> No.20411864

>>20411733
>Only 2k
Vox sama is declining...

>> No.20411881

>>20410494
Gura isn't hated. Chumpedos are though.

>> No.20411903

>>20411733
>>Leos - $65,816
I thought Leos had reclined, guess I was very wrong.

>> No.20411915

>>20411864
>2K for a game stream without superchat reading
it seems he's getting stronger to me

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>> No.20411924

>>20411503
>if
My imaginary streams mog everybody too.

>> No.20411934

>>20411262
The Gura/Shion minecraft collab got good numbers but that's because they had a story arc going and both were struggling to speak to each other so had to resort to some quite simplistic language birh audiences understood. Add la+ in and suddenly you have two people who can understand each other and some dummy who can only say doko and matte. Still, the sheer novelty of it would mean maybe 50k

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>>20411573
>>20411881
lol, lmao

>> No.20411948

>>20411903

Almost all of that was from his birthday. he doesn't get much SCs on other streams

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>>20410282

>> No.20412084

>>20411104
Funnily, the VOD itself is actually doing pretty garbage. This kind of feels like the Kiara effect of weak channel = weak views.
https://youtu.be/O26Ga3_-BMM
200k in 1hr at 43k+ peak
Meanwhile:
https://youtu.be/RGYon901eOM
Suisei 189k playing tetris a day ago.
https://youtu.be/AU9_BsVhJ-A
FBK 220k in 1hr 40 min of time playing getting over it, however this was like what, 19k peak? Let alone the average.

People will say “views are still being processed” and that’s true, but JP streams process fast and often within the first 2-3 hours you’ve already gotten most of them. It’ll probably max out at 220-230k at most which is still shit for 43k. A 40k Peko stream of the same length is easily 350k+

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>>20410282

>> No.20412141

>>20411881
Nah you're all just projecting. You rarely see any chumbuds outside of hlgg, /#/ and /ggg/. So where are these chumbuds they hate? Is it perhaps schizo shit like the year old FBK/Iofi drama?

>> No.20412158

Great you summoned the great ratio schizo, who totally know every formula of how everything works + access to all the creator dashboards and it's not just guessing everything he says

>> No.20412187

>>20410666
>>20410717
How can we save nijien?

>> No.20412210

>>20412084
Anon JPs have shit VODs all the time but I will remind you that the firs purple cunny collab is also on Shions channel and has a 800k VOD

>> No.20412251

>>20412084
>this kind of feels
>jp stream process fast and often
>it will probably max out
>a peko stream easily

literally all guesses, your posts are worthless, kys

>> No.20412320

>>20412141
The only chumbud I regularly see outside of those places is that one guy who keeps making the "look at my cute shark wife" thread, and that guy gets shat on 50/50 for absolutely no reason too

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>>20411936

>> No.20412375

Why are VOD number discussions so seethe inducing here of all places?

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>> No.20412425

>>20412251
It’s really not. Spend time enough monitoring how processing goes and you’ll end up with pretty consistent results.
You gotta understand how once you start seeing view increment behvaior changing, the end result is pretty much assurred. The last batch of verified views for the vod was 1k. You already know the rest of them are going to be similar increments.
If Pekora vods are almost always predicted correctly, what makes you think a Shion vod is going to magically get 100k out of thin air?

>> No.20412428

>>20412375
because they make Gura look good and the last samurai here can't have that, see also the replies to >>20410494 to understand the kind of mental gymnastics those sorts of "people" jump through

>> No.20412436

>>20412375
Because anons in this thread are much less retarded than in the other ones and are capable of rational thinking sometimes.
VOD coping will never go your way, cumtards.

>> No.20412448

>Gura's not even streaming today
>Keeps talking about her
Seems like Gura lives rent-free in his head

>> No.20412462
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>>20412320
>for absolutely no reason
Constantly making a zero effort thread to try and force a meme that takes up a slot making it harder for everyone else to actually discuss vtubers is a good reason to hate him

>> No.20412465

>>20411104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYg0VmLfvBo
>419k views 45k likes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O26Ga3_-BMM
>215k views 17k likes

>> No.20412467

Polka 8k at 3AM. Inclining ?

>> No.20412468

>>20412436
see, told ya, it's entirely because it makes Gura look good and that makes this guy seethe

>> No.20412472

>>20412436
>Because anons in this thread are much less retarded
That's a good one anon.

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>>20410282

>> No.20412516

>>20412448
Cumtards themselves were the one bringing her up though, because we didn't talk about their queen the whole day, they had to bring her up in some way.

>> No.20412525

>>20412462
and yet you don't see that behaviour in the dozens of other threads that crop up, or the fifty billion drama threads. Only when the op happens to be Gura. Curious that.

>> No.20412542

>>20412448
Who the fuck brought up Gura again
>>20412465
>>20408119
Likes are still single handedly the worst possible metric to prove the cull
Great, we're already timelooping

>> No.20412548

>>20412516
>>20412436
So it's literally just one guy seething?

>> No.20412562

>>20412548
Yes

>> No.20412570

/#/ is declining.

>> No.20412589

I remember last year some people were throwing around Bloom/holofes numbers. Did people manage to scrape? Or was it just Yagoo's comments?

>> No.20412608

>>20412589
Yagoo's comments. There was one guy who supposedly came up with a figure of 78k but it can't be verified

>> No.20412624

>>20412462
better then any of shitty bait threads

>> No.20412628

>>20412448
ENschizo secretly loves Gura
He is just afraid to admit it

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>> No.20412725

>>20412628
Everybody loves Gura. You would have to truly have a black heart to hate her.

>> No.20412741

JP vs EN means that Nijis are unable to keep up with Holos again
Do something, Riku

>> No.20412771

>>20412741
he's already accelerating as much as he can

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>>20410282

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>>20410282

>> No.20412791

>>20412084
wait a fucking day you fucking retard

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>>20412542

>> No.20412847

>>20410494
chumbuds are, not Gura herself though. Why? because of things like this >>20410657, I don't see any other fanbase bragging so much about someone else's success other than chumbuds. Nor hoshiyomis, nor 35p, nor soratomos, nor sukonbus, nor aquacrew, but chumbuds are always talking about how good and unique Gura and that's annoying af

>> No.20412857

>>20412628
it's been pointed out already that the hate is directed towards chumbuds. Which I assume is the same for Nousagi and Pekora. People might hate nousagi here but not Pekora and the same applies probably for gura and chumbuds.
But then again, there are probably some that hate the talents as well.
The main reason is that both fan bases are the easiest to bait and stalwart defenders of their preferred metric, never giving ground, which causes shit time loops like today.
>t.nousagi

>> No.20412868

>>20412608
How about Expo tickets? Those are limited aren't they? Can we extrapolate in person attendance? Maybe we can just look at the streams.

>> No.20412913

>>20412548
Yeah. There's one chumbud here who just has to prove that Gura is the top chuuba for some reason. All the VOD posts are from him, since he has to cope about Gura's average CCV.

>> No.20412947

>>20412375
Because it shatters the simple order of higher ccv =more popular vtuber. Just like subs stopped mattering when a certain someone blew past everything.

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all of you kys

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>>20410282

>> No.20413004

>>20412375
because of a resident schizo

>> No.20413009

>>20412548
Ye, there was a thread a few days ago where his replies were over a dozen.

Rent free I say

>> No.20413068

>>20412913
>>20412516
>>20412436
So it's literally just one guy seething?

>> No.20413075

>>20412847
kek, you're so sensitive anon

>> No.20413101

>>20412947
The funny thing is that said order works perfectly well when you remove Gura from the equation. Pekora, Marine and Kuzuha have massive VODs, corresponding their massive ccv. Exceptions like Ayame and Toya who are buffed in both ccv and VOD by scarcity prove the rule too.

>> No.20413114

>>20412868
They are also limited

>> No.20413137

>>20412857
and if you actually believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Anyone who actually claims to "hate the fanbase, not the talent" is just a douchebag who charitably doesn't want to admit that to himself or less charitably an asshole who wants to appear more credible and less petty

>> No.20413179

>>20413101
The order still applies for EN though, except Ame who debuff herself too much, but when comes to ceiling she still fits the rule.

>> No.20413185

>>20413068
Yep. Just ignore the VOD cope posts.

>> No.20413189

>>20412847
>Nor hoshiyomis, nor 35p, nor soratomos, nor sukonbus, nor aquacrew,
nigger that post is literally an adaptation of the suisei cinderella story copypasta, and I don't see you jumping down their throats. At least try and lie convincingly

>> No.20413205

>>20412847
>>20412913
>>20412516
>>20412436
>>20413185
So it's literally just one guy seething?

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>>20410282

>> No.20413238

>>20412847
that is the first time i have ever seen talk about Guras "Cinderella" story, but i see talk about Suiseis one all the time and that doesn't piss me off because both are great in their own ways

>> No.20413239

>VOD views don't matter!
if you unironically believe this, you have actual rot of the brain from being here too long.

>> No.20413251

>>20412847
Based blind retard

>> No.20413254

i wonder when the schizo will go to sleep

>> No.20413258

>>20413205
I already replied to this post... What is happening?

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>>20413233

>> No.20413276

give me back my comfy hours you fuckers

>> No.20413285

>>20413254
Soon
It's sea sleeping time

>> No.20413319

>>20413238
Suisei, Miko, and Sora have all been subject to the "cinderella story" narrative to varying degrees, I recall there was a period of time when 35p and Hoshiyomis would get into arguments over who is the most cinderella like, but of course that doesn't trigger the schizo because they aren't talking about Gura

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>>20413271

>> No.20413336

>>20413137
sorry anon, you are not trustworthy enough for bridge selling.
I personally could not care about gura, she is probably entertaining for those who watch her, that is fine. But I cannot stand some of the chumbuds that are in /#/ and I assume the feeling is mutual.
if you want to claim that if you hate the fans you have to hate their oshi I would say you haven't put much though into it. Of two thinks related you can hate one and not the other, if you can't then either it's not two things but one or you can't separate them in your head.

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>>20412187
Fire all the girls + Yugo
Hire:
>a male shinigami rapper
>a male time travelling detective
>a male pheonix
>a male priestess
>a shark shota

>> No.20413351

>>20413258
Because he’s talking about you, fucking retard.

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>>20413323

>> No.20413379

>>20413239
Actuhually, numbers don't matter because all the Youtube bullshitery around culls, removing views etc etc. Objective fact. Prove me wrong, you can't.

>> No.20413393

>>20413276
sorry, today slow eu hours are closed due to time loops.

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>> No.20413434

>>20413342
Mysta is already a detective

>> No.20413439

>>20413239
Nobody here cares about VODs, anon. They are awkward and unwieldy to use in dick measuring contests (which is what this thread is really about), CCV is way easier to use for that purpose.

>> No.20413472

>>20413351
I'm not seething tho.

>> No.20413477

>>20413439
>Youtube
>Don't care VOD
Kek

>> No.20413489

>>20413336
anon you can see for yourself in this thread that certain behaviours don't even warrant a mention when other fanbases participate in them, but when chumbuds do it suddenly it's "I don't see any other fanbase bragging so much about someone else's success other than chumbuds". If you actually believe that he doesn't hate Gura and just hates her fans you are genuinely delusional

>> No.20413511

>>20413439
maybe if you repeat it enough times you are going to start believing it. Not me, though

>> No.20413518

>>20413439
No, it looks like plenty of people do care and tha upsets the ccv schizos. CCVid was a wakeup call but you pre CCVid boomers are stuck in your ways, shouting at the kids discussing VODs and overall views, because back in your day everyone agreed that didn't matter and nothing can change

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Songs usually slow down after a few weeks, but this thing is still growing at 130-140k daily, which is insane. At this rate it will hit 10M in just 9 days, making it 50 days total to 10M. The current record is King at 58 days. I wonder if holofes will have an impact on its growth tho.

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>>20410282

>> No.20413623

>>20413596
Oh yeah that reminds me, I need to update the list to account for Moona's high tide hitting one million

>> No.20413672

>>20413439
Tell cover to stop using subs and (VOD) views for their official slides then, they're clearly making a mistake by not usign CCV right?

>> No.20413692

Objective fact, no amount of dick measuring will change the fate of the chubba
Not subs, not CCV, not VODs, if someone is going to decline into the very depths of hell you can't stop it
This thread is only a spectator.

>> No.20413699

>>20413596
mori has a shitload of music she wants to post after holofes, the Q reps might suffer a bit

>> No.20413703

>>20413596
Mori’s gonna be having the time of her life this month.
>Q fastest ever to 10M
>2M subscribers
>Soon to be enormous announcement
>Holofes
>Likely gonna get a 3D live over there one of these weeks after it’s done

>> No.20413751

>>20413489
I said that there are probably those that do, but not the majority. When the time loops happen it's 99 % of the time nousagi or chumbuds that start the shitflinging, assuming it's not a false flag. When that happens it most often then not comes down to
1. the other sides metric of choice is shit
2. your oshi is less worth then my oshi due to your metric being shit
3. the other side due to this time loop happening so often as it does, snaps and can't control themselves. Probably also hurling insults on the oshi even if it's the anon that should get the hate.
I think that the majority hates the other anons here when they clash over topics that neither side is willing to give ground on. Any hate towards the oshi is collateral damage and if anything meant to rile up the opponent even more.

>> No.20413764

>>20413672
big news, Cover is retarded, and I know more about numbers than all of their incompentent employees

>> No.20413841

>>20413596
Mori actually numberfagged this song perfectly. She stacked:
-first Myth duo orisong
-Gura
-high tier animation
-trigger like artsyle and theme, which weebs love(just look at all the kill la kill comments on the video)
-months of hype
-collab with deco27

The only buff she did not stack was using Gura's channel but she got around that by having Gura feature it on the main page, basically nullifying the problem.

Mori should be given some numberfagging credit here, this isn't just her and Gura's popularity at work, she stacked every buff in the book deliberately. She even referred to tgis song as pulling out all the stops

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>>20413764
If you know so much Where's your successful vtuber company?

>> No.20413851

>>20413764
unbelievably based post

>> No.20413866

>>20413851
it's considered bad manners to jack yourself off in public

>> No.20413891

>>20413764
You should start a new vtuber company anon, it will surely trive under your enlightened guidance.

>> No.20413949

>>20413434
and the time travel is actually part of his lore, unlike Ame

>> No.20413962

>>20413841
Yeah, i thought the song being OK and her part was really weak compare to KING might balance out the buff but it seems like i was wrong.

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>> No.20414017

>>20413866
*cums on you*

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>>20410282

>> No.20414043

>>20413764
at least learn english before trying to claim that you're a genius, anon

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>>20412570
hey, man

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>> No.20414350

>>20413319
Miko isnt a Cinderella story, she just failed and came back to relevance. She was literally backed by an entire team, same with Sora. Suisei's story is unique and pretty much hers alone since she's self made and had nobody backing her besides herself.

>> No.20414361

>>20413205
Sure, dude. All me

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>> No.20414393

>Finally Gold for nijien!!!
https://youtu.be/UHeP7yFniBI

>> No.20414471

>>20414393
why is this thread so obsessed with NijiEN and EN golds in general?

>> No.20414496

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Top 50 list) (17th Mar 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
King (CalliGura) - 0d 11h 36m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Ochame Kinou (HoloEN) - 1d 20h 0m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2d 0h 26m
Kamipoi (Laplus) - 2d 7h 43m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2d 14h 51m

Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 2d 17h 0m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
Animal (Suisei and Miko) - 3d 0h 28m
Phony (Suisei) - 3d 5h 29m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
Ochame Kinou (HoloX) - 4d 0h 15m
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4d 1h 45m
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 4d 6h 41m
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 4d 16h 36m

RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5d 15h 56m
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Lower one's eyes (Suisei) - 6d 5h 5m
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6d 18h 37m
Ruma (Hakui Koyori) - 7d 0h 30m
Haiiro to Ao (Suisei and Towa) - 7d 7h 48m
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7d 14h 24m
King (Pavolia Reine) - 7d 22h 4m

Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 8d 15h 12m
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8d 17h 6m
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8d 18h 0m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Target for love (Gawr Gura) - 9d 9h 33m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Tuning love (Pekora Moona) - 10d 0h 24m
Animal (Nekomata Okayu) - 10d 2h 41m

Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
Umapoi densetsu (Aqua, Fubuki, Marine, Rushia, Kanata, Mio) - 10d 13h 43m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
Usseewa (Mori and Milky queen) - 10d 19h 48m
Eye (Takane Lui) - 11d 0h 42m
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11d 21h 3m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 12d 6h 15m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m

>> No.20414503

I do find it pretty sad that daily view increases (ala holostats) aren't tallied here, since CCV tallies exclude the likes of vsingers.

>> No.20414520

>>20414471
Nijinigger small dog syndrome please understand

>> No.20414541

>>20414496
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (50-100) (17th Mar 2022)

Kamipoi (Murasaki Shion) 12d 17h 31m
Bitter chocolate Decoration (La+) 12d 7h 51m
Cry baby (Hoshimachi Suisei) 13d 1h 10m
Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) - 13d 6h 0m
Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
Veah (Akai Haato) - 13d 22h 24m
Country Roads (HoloMyth) - 14d 1h 50m
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14d 18h 10m

Shituraku petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 15d 10h 46m
Odo (Murasaki Shion) - 15d 14h 11m
Sakai (Moona and Suisei) 15d 18h 45h
Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16d 2h 21m
Hana ni borei (Nakiri Ayame) - 16d 2h 37m
Adrenaline!!! (Oozora Subaru and Shigure Ui) - 16d 4h 5m
I-ya, I-ya, I-ya (Ninomae Inanis, Takanashi Kiara) - 16d 5h 50m
Tabi no tochuu (Ninomae Inanis) - 16d 23h 11m
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
Folk medley (HoloId) - 17d 23h 42m

Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 18d 5h 23m
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 18d 15h 4m
Vampire (Murasaki Shion) - 19d 0h 4m
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 19d 7h 24m
Journey of a thousand years - 19d 17h 46m
Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
Cinderella (Usada Pekora) - 19d 18h 26m
Dreaming Chu Chu (Amelia and Kiara) - 19d 23h 50m
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20d 3h 30m
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 20d 4h 24m

Kamipoi (Kanata and Aqua - 20d 7h 42m
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21d 0h 20m
Animal (Sakamata Chloe) - 21d 15h 58m
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21d 23h 34m
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
Monster (Fubuki, Ayame, Subaru, Mio, Okayu, Korone) - 22d 5h 40m
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24d 19h 25m
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m

Kaibutsu (Tsunomaki Watame) - 26d 2h 19m
Nh uh uh (Hakui Koyori) - 27d 0h 22m
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 27d 5h 3m
Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 27d 5h 10m
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28d 3h 58m
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
Blessing (NePoLaBo) - 29d 1h 10m
Animal (Shirakami Fubuki) - 29d 1h 19m
Kakero (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 29d 19h 38m
Curry Meishi Miracle - 29d 23h 9m

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>>20410282

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>>20414541

>> No.20414581

>>20414393
>Mysta's very first Karaoke
>300k celebration
It's gonna hit 30k
I said it

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>>20414553

>> No.20414597

>>20414541
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only) (17th Mar 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m

Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m

Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) -13d 6h 0m
Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14d 18h 10m
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
Journey of a thousand years (Holomyth) - 19d 17h 46m
Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m

RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) - 29d 23h 9m
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m
High Tide (Moona) - 30d 2h 55m
Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m
Bye bye Rainy (Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

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>>20414471
>picrel

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>>20414629

>> No.20414692

>>20414520
>>20414638
but the person I responded and most of people making similar comments seem to be holoniggers

did you guys skip your meds?

>> No.20414696

>>20414471
nijieniggers

>> No.20414742

>>20414496
Unisonbros...

>> No.20414750

>>20414692
That's a nijiniggers, and you probably are one too on your first day learning how to flaseflag

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>> No.20414756

>>20412847
Trash like you should leave if you can't handle a few actually positive posts on this board, you fucking snowflake.

>> No.20414768

>>20414471
Because you will never be Japanese
Because we say english here
If you want to discuss JP
Go to 5ch

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>>20410282

>> No.20414880

>>20414768

holy esl

>> No.20414900

>>20414672
thank you for your work anon. Marine has some great doujins

>> No.20414905

>>20414756
>a few

>> No.20414921

>>20414692
It's called falseflagging and niSEAniggers like (You) love to do like while playing with your nipples

>> No.20414937

so where are the new vshojo chuubas, its been half an year

>> No.20414966

>>20414921
There is nothing wrong with nipples

>> No.20414988

>>20414937
didn't they close auditions like a few days ago? i remember seeing posts about it in catalogue but everything afterwards was just that one british fag joining in

>> No.20415032

>>20414937
They gotta use their $11Mil to pay for convention fee instead of funding a new gen desu, purisu andastando

>> No.20415042

Yo did the holo orisong guy move to another channel?
I can't find today's video on either of his channels that I know.

>> No.20415095

>>20415042
Which guy? The new one or the old one?

>> No.20415135

>>20415032
No for real, what is the model Vshojou is going to use to make a return on that investment? Money going to the talent is an expense, not a positive for investors.

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>> No.20415208

>>20414350
>She was literally backed by an entire team
you mean the team that ditched her within a month?
she was stuck as 2views for 9 fucking months, no support, cried on stream, asked for graduation
she was in the most fucked up situation than anybody else
the only Cinderella story are Sora and Miko

>> No.20415234

>>20410519
> marine lewds
> SFW
does not compute anon

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Incline?

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https://panora.tokyo/archives/45163
Damn! Didnt know sora was an official ambassador for mikuland. I thought it was a one time collab

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>> No.20415328

>>20415255
Nijisanji unity collabs (either streams or songs) between their branches has helped some members of ID and KR.

>> No.20415341

>>20413137
I mean, most of the people here are either neutral or positive towards Nijisanji JP livers.
But are universal in our hatred of nijiniggers.
This thread's probably the only place on the entire board that is able to hate the fanbase while not hating the chuuba.

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>> No.20415362

Has anyone ever commented on stream how much they make from youtube ads?
You have to figure some members like Gura probably make more from ads then they do from memberships and superchats.

>> No.20415377

>>20415255
>sexy gf
What has EN become...

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>>20415234
nature finds a way anon

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>>20415343

>> No.20415412

>>20415135
>>20415032
>>20414937
i dont know for sure, but judging from Bubi`s case, if they have something to do with it as I think, they might be trying to change strategy and give the new vtubers greater assets, in exchange of a portion of every form of their income

>> No.20415418

>>20415362
Socialblade for ad estimates

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>>20415395

>> No.20415467

>>20414692
babby's first falseflag?

>> No.20415488

>>20415418
The ranges are so wide it is hard to tell what kind of revenue they make.

>> No.20415506

>>20415095
new guy

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>> No.20415540

>>20415208
>the only Cinderella story are Sora and Miko
And Suisei

>> No.20415550

>>20415135
Donos going 100% to the talents isnt a big deal, since now corpo/agency would be stupid enough to rely on those unreliable source (except for those wannabe corpo like cyberwhatever its name ofc).
But yeah, it'll still be confusing how their bussiness model work, since Vshoujo's streamers are basically own their IPs and models and on an equal partnerships with the agency, with the power balance leaning more towards these emotionaly unstable girls. So, if the new girls are debuted with provided models, the power dynamics inside the agencies would be even more confusing and prone to drama

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>>20415377
it's really sad isn't it?

>> No.20415655

>>20415506
I think some anon mentioned about him changing his formats, some days ago.

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>>20410282

>> No.20415701

>>20415608
>>20415377
NijiEN was a mistake. They should've went to twitch where they belong

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>>20415608

>> No.20416008

>>20415506
he has not uploaded what would have been scheduled for today yet, he seems to be in the process of uploading older vids now

>> No.20416122

>>20415950
AAAAAAAAA
I WANT TO FUCK ELIRAAAAAAA

>> No.20416410

>>20415362
Didn't DuDuL post his some of his earnings a while back here?
I think you can use that as some kind of basis.

>> No.20416428

>>20415377
Mika is from Niji ID, retard

>> No.20416498

>>20416410
No, because that's for short videos and those pay much differently than VODs that are hours long.

>> No.20416572

post some JK Marines.

>> No.20416597

>>20416428
she tries her best to make everybody forget that.

>> No.20416629

>>20416410
>>20415362
oh wait wasn't there recently some midget drama where he went and talked about getting 4k$ per month from ad revenue? don't remember if it was a twich or youtube chuuba tho

>> No.20416856

I wonder if any holos have considered buying cover shares Would be kino if all holos bought out the majority and owned it.

>> No.20416924

>>20416856
I really doubt most of the girls even know how shares work

>> No.20416950

>>20416856
don't think its publicly traded. there was some doomposting going around about it becoming such but then it just fizzled out.

>> No.20417036

>>20416856
>>20416950
Public has nothing to do with shares. Private companies can issue shares if they want. I was going to say there's not much reason for Cover to offer any but as an incentive to stay loyal and not just jumps hip once you've gotten a HL fanbase wouldn't be an insane thought

>> No.20417198

>>20417036
well yes but i really doubt they would offer them enough shares to get a majority

>> No.20417316

>>20415135
might go into music or other media. expand the audience and push merchandise. probably should use the investment to scale up production for events. something like that would be my guess.

>> No.20417469

the day cover and anycolor become public is the day vtubing ends

>> No.20417547

>>20414629
the male character is ugly..

>> No.20417631

>>20417547
That's me you son of a bitch

>> No.20417713

>>20417631
>that's supposed to be me but the author went full uggo mode
ftfy

>> No.20417717

>>20417469
It is more likely they get bought up by a company like Kadokawa.

>> No.20417805

>>20417469
the day i can't cum to my oshi's heartbeat during an asmr stream is the day vtubing ends

>> No.20417842

>>20417717
Cover is a dangerous acquisition. Everything depends on the good will have the talents and it doesn't take much to cause a death spiral of talent flight. They make great marketing partners, owning them is a risky proposition.

>> No.20418204

>>20413596
Hololive keeps reaching new ceilings.

>> No.20418246

>>20414393
>385k subs
>300k celebration
this is starting to become more and more common across all nijien not just luxiem

>> No.20418322

>>20415608
the difference in reaction of bae compared to nijiEN is amazing for when this situations arise.

>> No.20418345

>>20414393
Whenever this gets posted, Hololive gets the gold.

>> No.20418362

>>20414581
A month ago it could've, now I don't see it getting 20k

>> No.20418521

>>20417842
I actually agree with this. The Hololive brand is pretty much pushed by the legacies of the talent and the good will of their audience. It's pretty damn amazing that they managed to survive the Taiwan Yab, Coco's graduation and Rushia's termination. But I think that's more because Sora and Fubuki pretty much serves as the canaries in the coal mine for the fans. I can't count how many times people have said that as long as FBK is there that they'll continue to trust Cover. So for your company's main currency (fan's goodwill) to rely mainly on one person is pretty fucking volatile. Nijisanji on the other hand is driven by the brand itself. Even if Kuzuha or Mito graduated tomorrow, even if it'll hurt, it won't be enough to kill them since their fans are too segmented.

>> No.20418530

>>20418246
i do wonder if this kind of late celebration hurt their image.

>> No.20418613

>>20418530
Their image is already at a bad state. There's no fixing it.
Might as well exploit their viewers as much as possible.

>> No.20418626

>>20418322
I mean...
NijiEN talents were the ones who started this joke
And fanbase reflects the talent

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>>20418530
>NijiEN
>Image
LMAO

>> No.20418653

>>20413703
Imagine if she gets deported before HoloFes because of that clip where she hinted that she lost her passport/residence card.

>> No.20418693

>Marine horniposting
>it's extra horni
It's like /ahoy/ + /horni/ + /uoh/ are mating and having horni babies. I didn't even think that was even possible.

>> No.20418719

>>20418521
You telling me Nijisanji is loyalty to the brand and Holo is loyalty to the talent? Because that's what it seems to me.

>> No.20418725

>>20418530
I don't know but this'll at least serve as a good data point. A celebration stream is still a celebration stream, and for Mysta who is either #1 or #2 in popularity in NijiEN (plus not being affected by culls) I do expect at least 20k. If it only goes up to 12k though and underperforms in SC than that might be the signal to start reigning in celebration streams and reserving them for 100k intervals.

>> No.20418741

>>20418530
ehhh they're not gonna stream for more than two years anyway.
and management isn't too keen on stopping them either (they'll have two new livers to replace every liver that leaves).
I do wonder what Pomu feels right now about their current business model after being a Nijifan for a long time...

>> No.20418764

>>20418693
mesugaki marine doko

>> No.20418890

>>20418719
In a way yes. For someone who watches Fuwa, even if say Kuzuha graduated, they're still going to keep watching Fuwa. Contrast that to Holo that experiences at least a minor wave of unsubs everytime a talent gets graduated/terminated.

>> No.20418980

>>20418741
>>20418246
No one but this place cares about those celebration streams. I never saw anyone with this kind of mindset outside of this thread.
As for Pomu, she seems extremely happy in NijiEN and makes like 20k per month in SC alone. I dont think most of you realize that even reimu of all of them gets more than enough to be a full time streamer.

>> No.20419062

I find it curious how literally every single Niji liver that got popular in 2019-20 similar to Hololive are now back to their old numbers, or reclining, or graduated.
Two of the major Niji graduations from last year were also livers that holofans knew of.
This + NijiID HoloID collabs while blocking HoloEN + the fact that a lot of NijiJP - HoloJP collabs no longer occur (except the ones between literal BFFs), kinda makes me think whether there was a company wide policy in Niji to avoid the holos (to not get them numbers while they were inclining?).

>> No.20419101

>>20418890
>>20418719
I disagree with that. In fact to me seems to be the contrary. Hololive fans are in there for the brand while with Nijisanji people are in there for the vtuber. Hololive has an entire ecosystem of supporting everyone in the brand while in Nijisanji the mindset is to pick whoever you want and watch them in any of the branches. There's people who only watch 1, 5 or 10, while in hololive you are expected to sub to everyone even without watching all of them.
In terms of how it works, it seems to be like this to me as each member in nijisanji. Lulu and Hana might be one of the biggest examples for the west years ago where people basically only watched them and not their collab partners.

>> No.20419126

>>20414496
Here is a suggestion of formatting to make it more legible in an imageboard

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Top 50 list) (17th Mar 2022)
>1) 00d 10h 29m :: Gawr Gura - REFLECT
>2) 00d 11h 36m :: CalliGura - King
>3) 00d 19h 32m :: CalliGura - Q
>4) 01d 15h 15m :: Houshou Marine - Unison
>5) 01d 20h 00m :: HoloEN - Ochame Kinou
>6) 01d 20h 21m :: Mori Calliope - Off With Their Heads
>7) 02d 00h 26m :: Mori Calliope - Roki
>8) 02d 07h 43m :: Laplus - Kamipoi
>9) 02d 09h 35m :: All Members - Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver
>10) 02d 14h 51m :: Nakiri Ayame - Goodbye Sengen

>11) 02d 17h 00m :: All members - Hololive Ochame Kinou
>12) 02d 17h 00m :: 4th Gen - Kiseki Knot
>13) 02d 20h 45m :: Holomyth - Myth or treat
>14) 03d 00h 28m :: Suisei and Miko - Animal
>15) 03d 05h 29m :: Suisei - Phony
>16) 03d 09h 50m :: Mori - End of a life
>17) 04d 00h 15m :: HoloX - Ochame Kinou
>18) 04d 01h 45m :: Suisei and Mori - GETCHA!
>19) 04d 06h 41m :: Minato Aqua - Goodbye Sengen
>20) 04d 16h 36m :: Nakiri Ayame - KING

>21) 05d 09h 49m :: Mori Calliope - RIP
>22) 05d 15h 50m :: Miko and Pekora - Peko Miko War
>23) 05d 15h 56m :: Hoshimachi Suisei - KING
>24) 06d 00h 52m :: Mori Calliope - Red
>25) 06d 05h 05m :: Suisei - Lower one's eyes
>26) 06d 18h 37m :: Takanashi Kiara - Goodbye Sengen
>27) 07d 00h 30m :: Hakui Koyori - Ruma
>28) 07d 07h 48m :: Suisei and Towa - Haiiro to Ao
>29) 07d 14h 24m :: Matsuri and Gura - Sorairo Days
>30) 07d 22h 04m :: Pavolia Reine - King

>31) 08d 10h 01m :: Mori Calliope - Bully
>32) 08d 15h 12m :: Minato Aqua - Vampire
>33) 08d 17h 06m :: Uruha Rushia - Goodbye Sengen
>34) 08d 18h 00m :: Kiryu Coco - Fansa
>35) 09d 00h 34m :: Nekomata Okayu - Mogu Mogu Yummy!
>36) 09d 09h 33m :: Gawr Gura - Target for love
>37) 09d 12h 40m :: Ninomae Inanis - Violet
>38) 09d 13h 54m :: Mori Calliope - The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer
>39) 10d 00h 24m :: Pekora Moona - Tuning love
>40) 10d 02h 41m :: Nekomata Okayu - Animal

>41) 10d 03h 37m :: Hoshimachi Suisei - Bluerose
>42) 10d 13h 43m :: Aqua, Fubuki, Marine, Rushia, Kanata, Mio - Umapoi densetsu
>43) 10d 18h 43m :: Hoshimachi Suisei - Ghost
>44) 10d 19h 48m :: Mori and Milky queen - Usseewa
>45) 11d 00h 42m :: Takane Lui - Eye
>46) 11d 21h 03m :: Mori Calliope - Envy Baby
>47) 12d 05h 20m :: Mori Calliope - DEAD BEATS
>48) 12d 06h 15m :: Suisei & 3rd Gen - Saga Jihen
>49) 12d 06h 52m :: Nanashi Mumei - A New Start
>50) 12d 14h 41m :: Hoshimachi Suisei - Stellar Stellar

>> No.20419164

>>20419062
That couldn't be more farther than the reality. Elu and Matsuri aren't besties and just had a collab yesterday, Matsuri had a collab with Ngo months ago, Riseu and Mika had a collab a few days ago, those always have been happening.

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>>20418764
>>20410282

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>>20410282

>> No.20419193

>>20418980
SC is flickly and half of that goes to the company and youtube
inthe last 30 days pomu made 18k in SC alone.
that means she takes home only 9k. and that is for 80hrs of work.

>> No.20419227

>>20418980
>gets more than enough to be a full time streamer
see, that directly contradicts the fact that they're spamming celebration streams for absolutely every single milestone only NOW, when they weren't doing it before.
Something has definitely changed internally.
It's either they saw his Luxiem was doing it and decided to get some extra cash for themselves in the short term (at the expense of long term fan retention) or there were orders from higher up that they needed the cash.

>> No.20419231

>>20419193
Gotta say that 100+ dollars / hour is not a bad proposition.

>> No.20419235

>>20419126
You don't even have to number them in this format, since the grouping makes it more than obvious.

>> No.20419255

>>20418980
No need to be so defensive anon. Like some people have said, we really don't know how constant celebration streams will affect CCV and SC earnings moving forward because we don't have a point of reference in the current landscape. Holo's used to celebrate in 50k intervals 3 years ago but even they stopped doing that once the 2020 and 2021 boom happened. Small indies and corpos probably still do that but the intervals in their celebrations are nowhere near close enough to make use of them as an example. As for Pomu, well unless you're actually Pomu (which would say a lot more about you if you really are her or someone from Niji) than you wouldn't really know, right? A battered wife swears up and down that she'd rather stay with her abusive husband too you know.

>> No.20419267

>>20419231
even i make 100 dollars an hour. But i aint gonna work 80hrs a month.

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>>20419235
It helps when people copy and paste individual lines
>10) 02d 14h 51m :: Nakiri Ayame - Goodbye Sengen

>> No.20419278

>>20419193
This doesn't mean she takes only 9k when she has streamlabs, merchandise and voice packs as well. She seems very happy either way, even more after she quit her job.

>> No.20419315

>>20419101
anon, how do you think friend groups work?

>> No.20419324

>>20419267
I doubt you make 100 bucks per hour to play vidya and shitpost on Twitter

>> No.20419368

>>20419227
That doesn't contradict a thing because they were always doing celebrations for milestones. It always has been a thing for 50k and 100k milestones since the beginning.
I'm sorry but I just cant take this thread seriously with this kind of mindset.

>> No.20419407

I wonder if getting 40K live viewers is enough to consider someone famous

>> No.20419421

>>20419164
I mentioned "was" for a reason anon.
Remember what Polka said, during the chinkout literally every other company was distancing themselves from holo, which is how they got so insular in the first place.
I'm just saying, unlike what we commonly think of being "idol culture" that stopped Holo-Niji collabs, it might just have been Niji company policy during that time (which has obviously changed now).

>> No.20419422

>>20419267
She makes 80 hours a month because she wants to. The minimum required are 3 streams per week. There's others in NijiEN itself who stream much less than that in terms of hours.

>> No.20419450

>>20419368
>It always has been a thing for 50k and 100k milestones since the beginning.
Since the beginning of what? I genuinely don't recall early NijiEN gens do it with this frequency

>> No.20419456

>>20419324
It jobs pay well so watching streams andposting here isnt that much of a problem. still the point stands>>20419255
i thinkshe makes enough to not work, but i dont think she does to give her luxuries as some holos do.

>> No.20419479

>>20419368
>I'm sorry but I just cant take this thread seriously with this kind of mindset.
Oh no, what can we do to regain your esteem?

>> No.20419489

>>20419421
It never changed. Even in 2020 they still had a lot of collabs.

>> No.20419513

>>20419422
>She makes 80 hours a month because she wants to
more like she needs it kek

>> No.20419550

>>20419368
>It always has been a thing for 50k and 100k milestones since the beginning
... read your own sentence, and then scroll up on what numbers are currentlybeing "celebrated" where before they were not.
Then try replying without the seething.

>> No.20419561

>>20419450
All of them had milestones for 100k, 150k, 200k, 250k since the beginning. Those are all normal. 385k is the only retarded one, the rest are normal to me.

>> No.20419588

>>20418980
>>20419193
pomu made 18k sc last month, and that was biased by some spcial stream, since the last week she only made 2.7k. And she only keeps 35%, not 50%, and then taxes come to take another big bite off it as well.

>> No.20419592

>>20419561
selen did a 300k yesterday

>> No.20419609

>>20419101
Then I guess we'll just have to disagree then. I look at the Holobox as a jenga tower. You can stack that thing pretty high, but once you remove the main foundation (Sora) or Pillar (FBK) the whole thing will come crashing down. Nijisanji's structure actually gives them an advatage against holo since no one liver is truly big enough to sink the ship if they commit a yab or graduate.

>> No.20419627

>>20419267
where do you work?

>> No.20419658

>>20419489
a lot of the older collabs died off during that period
Miko - Debi, Shigure Ui family, 27JK etc
Since a lot of them were male collabs people just think it's "idol culture" but that doesn't explain all the female cross company collabs that died during that period.

>> No.20419668

>>20419588
>35%
dont they have the same split as holo?

>> No.20419688

>>20419550
My bad, I thought they were talking about mysta doing 385k celebration. But it's 300k. The Karaoke is a celebration for 300k with him singing. Mysta has been in depression and cancelling and delaying this karaoke for weeks. he tweeted many times about how nervous he is for this, so this is likely the reason for why he will be doing it now after combining with chat to do karaoke when he was at 200k.

>> No.20419700

>>20419609
remove kuzuha and see what happens

>> No.20419736

>>20419658
these days i think the only "unit" that remains is shiina and okayu

>> No.20419751

>>20419668
youtube takes 30%, vtuber and company split the remaining 70%

>> No.20419756

>>20419609
if kuzuha gets removed the company is in shambles.

>> No.20419765

Next thread
>>20419660

>> No.20419803

Next Thread >>20419681

>> No.20419810

>>20419751
oh yeah, not sure why i was thinking itwas 50%
then yeah i can get why they like to do every small milstone even if it is late.
6k a month for 80 hrs fo work doesnt sound healthy.

>> No.20419862

>>20402685
>>20409364
he's not a hag yet!

>> No.20419888

>>20419736
TokoMachi is also still alive
So is the Aqua-Shiina-Okayu-BullyPanda group (I forget if they have a name).

>> No.20419889

>>20419592
How Selen did 300k yesterday when the dogfucker is on 260k? She did a post-talk stream, which as a numberfag as she is, she wanted the money because phasmo dont have monetization allowed.
>>20419658
Miko debi and a lot of collabs died out before the coco incident. Miko had tons of collabs with Shiba and I wont be blaming her for that. this is like a big conspiracy theory.
>>20419756
>>20419700
dont think so. It will hurt but not in the point to do that as they have other big hitters as well. The only way for nijisanji to be really affected is if they somehow lose most of their top earnings.

>> No.20419906

>>20416572
you guys didn't.

>> No.20419922

>>20419889
>as they have other big hitters as well
anon...

>> No.20419937

>>20419700
It'd be grim, I ain't gonna lie. Removing Kuzuha pretty much means that only rarity buffed Touya can compete with the top holos and would nail Nijisanji in 2nd place until they find another star. But that's the thing though. They just need to find another star. Hololive cannot do that with someone like FBK or Sora. Hell, if Pekora or Gura left, it wouldn't just affect them but everyone who subbed to the group because of unity.

>> No.20419956

>>20419889
>as they have other big hitters as well

>> No.20420016

>>20419937
are you trying to shitpost here?

>> No.20420044

>>20419421
Funny thing, the period after chinkout to the end of the year is the golden era of Hololive. They missed golden gravy train of Hololive unlike somebody like Ui that stay collab with Hololive and incline because of that

>> No.20420065

>>20419937
I dunno. The same thing was said when Coco graduated about how this is the end of Hololive and nearly a year later they're still going strong. Even Rushia who's one of the more influential and senior talent didn't really dent the box that much.
I think if Sora or FBK graduated unceremoniously then bad signs are probably coming, but if it's a grand send off Cover will just promote someone else like Subaru to take the spot.

>> No.20420082

>>20419922
>>20419956
They do have other big hitters. Not in the same level as Kuzuha but Mito, Lize, Ange, Toko, Hoshikawa, Sasaki, Fuwa, Kenmochi, Hayato, Chihiro and others exist.

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20420242

>>20419765
>>20419803
This STILL happens every time we make a new thread, can we please just all make a gentlemen's agreement to wait until the thread dies or hits page 11 before making a new one like we used to?

>> No.20420307

>>20414696
kek.

>> No.20420323

>>20420016
I'm not. I'm just telling you my POV on this. Hololive is fucking strong, they are without a doubt the #1 vtubing agency in the world right now and to say otherwise would be the height of delusion. But ironically, the main source of their strength (the Holobox), is also their most visible weakness. Compare that to Nijisanji who's main weakness that puts them below hololive (fan compartmentalization / segmentation) is the same thing that makes them more immune to yabs.

>> No.20420327

>>20419609
Honestly it's a surprisingly stable setup.
Foobs has pretty much proven the trust of all holomem, and the Rushia whitewash proves that if enough holos think that you fucked up, then you will be wiped and the fanbase will take their cue and move on as well.

1. Fubuki's statement incentivices Cover to not fuck up badly enough for her to want out (and probably take a bunch of her friends with her).
2. Trust being mutual between holomen, and Fubuki being generally sane, ensures that Fubuki herself will not do anything stupid to shake the ship.
3. If Fubuki DOES fuck up enough to get fired somewhere down the line (VERY unlikely), the other holos will also lose trust in her, and ahe will be wiped from the collective like Rushia was, and Hololive will move on.

As long as Cover is generally a positive influence for the holomem, this setup ensures the status quo, while giving a nuclear option for the talents if they need an out, while also ensuring that the person with this option is not the be-all end-all of Hololive.
It's a perfect example of separation of powers.

>> No.20420339

>>20420082
>Toko, Hoshikawa, Chihiro
that's like saying Lamy is a big hitter

>> No.20420394

>>20420339
more like Luna

>> No.20420551

>>20420044
yeah, feels like they were trying to use that as an excuse and shit on their rivals while they were in trouble, but it just ended up making them stronger.

>> No.20420565

>>20412084
I love holo VRchat. But relying on an underexercised amateur teaching them is a shitshow. Kiara no less. They should've just played a video on stream and mimic it like Gura did with Aki's belly dance lesson. Then each of them can correct each other instead

>> No.20420579

Predictions for today (JST Time)
>8AM Ina: Elden Ring - 12k
Elden Ring, Elden Ring, Elden Ring
>10AM Gura: Mommy Simulator - 25k
Gura in her Prime Time slot
>12PM Mumei: Getting Over it - 8k
First time buff but people might have already gotten over it.
>1PM Kronii: Elden Ring - 14k
First time on Elden Ring.

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