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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

>>20374329
Get me a 6000 x 3000 pixel equirectangular projection of the map with expanded poles and I'll update the climates at some point. I think I'll take a little break from large /vtwbg/ related projects though since the tectonics kinda exhausted me.

I'm going to have to step away as /nasa/'s main rep because of another death in the family. Will be gone until after weekend. I'll keep the tab open but I may not respond.

>>20374713
THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/meat/ !!J7IsvbPoQE1

>>20377449
Terribly sorry to hear that, sanalite. Take care.

>>20377449
Take care sanabro!

>>20377449
I'm sorry for your lost Sanalite. Take care of you family and yourself.

>>20377449
My condolences. Take care and stay safe.

>>20376915
picrel, with the polar blue being the expanded poles. The old edge of the map should be at 67.5th parallel according to the globe anon (>>19992551). Take your time, though, and thank you for your good work!

>>20377449
Take care, anon

>>20377449
sorry to hear that sanalite, take as much time as you need

casting my vote as the /rrat/ rep
> a rep to be responsible for making posts like where matters are voted on?
Nay,
from the last time we tried this, people who don't like the matter voted can easily derail the matter, and it seems the issues present can easily change status within the voting period and the final tally mattering little, there should be a better situation that's less of a hassle.

>/jp/ location in the world or universe
Abstain

>Should /fbk/'s and /mion/'s locations be swapped?
Abstain, Can someone sum up the situation and arguments for and against?

>Should /OKFAMS/ be also added on the map, perhaps around the area of /duck/, /mogu+/doog/, /fbk/, /mion/?
Yes

>>Should /pyon/ get their rabbit island(s)? Y/N
Yes, rabbit island sounds great!

>what should happen with the now empty /pyon/ location?
Distribute among the neighbors

>Rushia
Abstain, should be fandeads responsibility

>Chuubanite the final name?
Vitium/Vitubium sounds better to me and less 4th wall breaking

>Does it differ from nation to nation, or same but used differently by different nations
I think it'll work better if the ore changes properties depending on it's area or refinement. We can have dead zones where it can stop working, or different properties granted depending on the device made. Ie: a compass that always points to treasure, but then goes haywire whenever the traveler is in /hlgg/

>>20286990
link >>20379004

>>20378790
>>20378315
>>20377862
>>20377597
>>20377567
>>20378269
Thanks I suppose. This will be the last birthday I celebrate. At least Sana didn't stream today. If you still have questions about /nasa/'s trade arrangements then I'll still try to answer them. Just no big lore dumps for a while. Also other Sanalites are interested in the project. So you can ask them.

>>20379806
I think the only outstanding question I have is whether /nasa/ would be interested in hiring /meat/heads as expedition guards (since they're likely more expendable in /nasa/'s eyes), although I reckon the need for that is probably significantly lowered since /nasa/ found their weapon cache.

>>20379004
>>Should /fbk/'s and /mion/'s locations be swapped?
>Abstain, Can someone sum up the situation and arguments for and against?
iirc it was something that the sakuran rep has mostly been pushing for, with the argument for being that fubuki interacts with the stars more and is an arctic fox, so being further north makes sense. The argument against would be that it necessitates changing the map further and it is unknown how those two threads feel about the swap since they are currently inactive.

>from the last time we tried this, people who don't like the matter voted can easily derail the matter, and it seems the issues present can easily change status within the voting period and the final tally mattering little, there should be a better situation that's less of a hassle.
Do you have any suggestions for alternatives? The first point can't really be remedied unless we go offboard, which I don't view as an option. The second point could be solved by shortening the voting period, but then not everyone has a chance to have their say, so that's not very ideal either.

>>20379975
I didn't write the rentry for the weapons cache. Other than nerfing the mech's raw strength its nice for what it is. If we can't use nuclear fuel cells then we can make fuel out of charged vitubium instead. Just have to calculate how much of the supplies survived. Even broken guns can be stripped down into parts and rebuilt. I'm happy for this new era of optimism. I'm happy for other Sanalites to take over for a bit.

Also we'll place an order for chocolate once the bakery in /who/ is close to completion by the end of the summer. The Whovians aren't averse to your fertilization as we are. But we're still assessing our allergies to foods.

>>20380424
Sounds about right, does that mean /nasa/ won't be needing extra muscles as (more expendable) guards when out in expeditions in schizo land?

>>20380057
>Do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
Same as other fan community creations work. Discuss like adults and keep a record of points and discussions. Endhammer is an amazing feat of lore creation attempted by 4chan and it wasn't done by commitee, just ordinary faggots bored out of their mind and a wiki page to edit/re-edit and discuss.

-/rrat/

>>20380635
We don't know yet. Sanalites are okay shots but most of us are not warriors. First we need commodities and cash to hire mercs. Before that we need to rebuild our rockets to lift the station out of the crater. If we can pull it off then it will be a spectacle watching the city unfold.

>>20381205
Yeah, my train of thought is that
>Sanalites have decent firearms
>/nasa/ pods and ships are practically impenetrable
>/nasa/ has a *serious* lack of manpower compared with other countries
>thus Sanalites are the most vulnerable when out of their shelters e.g. during expeditions in the schizo wasteland
>hiring foreign guards will make them safer during said expeditions
>foreigners are more expendable anyway, and they have their own weapons that won't be a drain on /nasa/ nonrenewable resources
For /meat/ specifically, I think they might not be as expensive as other potential sources of mercenaries, since they're fine with payment in the form of loots from attackers (likely schizos), and probably some form of shelters and protection from the cold. Of course, a hidden agenda for /meat/ is that the mercs will gain experience fighting in cold climates far beyond their past raiding range. (we're fine with not spreading our cult or practising our rituals in Sanalite presence if required, just give us a room away from public eyes or something)
We can work out the details later when you're feeling better. Currently I'm just curious how you feel about the idea of such deals.

/mep/ should import vodka because vodka infused watermelons is a thing.

>>20382017
there's a bunch of potato producing nations in the world right now, off th top of my head /infinity/ and /who/ both produce potatoes, and presumably vodka too

>>20382147
Yes, we (Infinity) have both.

I wonder how popular an ice trade would be in this world? Because ice trades made stupid money until the 20th century.

>>20382515
The Souchou thread would be filthy rich.

>>20382515
i though we had an idea for fridges with chuubanite of a particularly cold vtuber or was that retconned

>>20382729
the idea is there, no one has made something to apply it, regardless, ice trade would still be very profitable for those nations that have the ability and infrastructure to do so

>>20382729
Artia chuubanite...

>>20382515
>>20382794
I could see the northern tribes of /rose/ conducting ice trades. Since they spend their lives above ground, unlike their southern brothers, they would likely have a lot of experience in such trading.
I plan to make a proper lorepost about the northern tribes in the future, for those wondering.

>>20382903
You could have them be your human connection to the other niji realms, or the zone where the humans and the rosebutas intersect, something like that, I assume you're planning on making the northern rosebutas somewhat different biologically, you could try that too.

>>20381520
That sounds too altruistic for a /nasfaqg/ merchant like me.
Would /meat/ instead be interested in supplying men for a mercenary company?
/nasa/ can hire us, to be paid in goods instead of money and I can handle the costs of travel, shelter, food and weaponry to be used in the expedition. This serves as a way to build up my private forces while gaining /nasa/'s products for trade

>>20383087
>planning on making the northern rosebutas somewhat different biologically
I wasn't before, but you've given me a BRILLIANT idea! Once I finish working on the prompts that I wanted to use, I'll definitely do that next!
The other idea I was planning on though, the part with the northern tribes being the middlemen for other species.

>>20382903
But wouldn't the ice be down south closer to the poles?

>>20383139
That's because I'm not from /nasfaqg/ but from /meat/, plus it's not like /meat/ is going out of its way to help only /nasa/ given what it gains in return (both spoils and experience - we can even let Sanalites get the first pick, since the needs between the groups probably don't overlap much at all anyway). Assuming you're from /nasfaqg/, does that mean you'll be willing to serve as a middleman?
Having someone handle the cost and logistics of travel, shelter and weaponry will be nice, same for food to a lesser extent (just don't ask how the feast is made after defeating raiders...). We can work out the details like more exact splits of goods and money if you're interested.

>>20383351
There's probably ice during winter in the north, though. And then something something migration during summer, something something. Aboveland Rosebutas might prefer lower temperatures and move back and forth from the north and south. Which would mean they wouldn't just be "northern" Rosebuds, but shhhhh...

I don't think /nasa/ will be on the offensive against schizos unless they stole some of our tech already. Fortunately the weapons vault is still sealed. So nothing's been stolen. The vault is on the border of /rbc/. Which schizos tend to stay away from.

>>20377449
My condolences sanalite

I got a busy week tomorrow. Time for bed.

>>20383593
Before I go, what's /nasfaqg/ appraisal on meteorites? Specifically iron/nickel meteorites and pallisites (meteorites with peridot)?

>>20382795
The Holive Empire is storing some in the archives
But it wont be enough

>>20383593
I am indeed willing to serve as a middleman, at least for financial matters. However from this >>20383864 it seems that we aren't needed? If /meat/ has another environment that they would still wish to train in I am still interested in funding it, I still need the private army anyways.
>>20384088
I speak for myself when I appraise this.
It isn't something that I would be willing to create a trade route for, considering /nasa/'s location, however the rarity of pallasites would fetch a high price and iron/nickel meteorites look like something collectors would like, but in terms of utility I think you would be better using it instead of shipping it out

If youre doing deals with /meat/ (ie economic, mercenaries) then you wont have to worry about them backstabbing you. Their people are culturally bound by code and law. Especially religious ones.

>>20385012
We classify meteorites as "treasure". They are sometimes ancient stones that are worth studying for knowledge but are otherwise sold to collectors. Sometimes you can make meteorites into jewlery or ornate weapons. Art pieces made with meteorite can fetch a high price if skillfully made. We'll offer meteorites as treasures like gemstones and art pieces. Like all treasure gold value is subjective to the buyer.

If you know anyone interested in collecting meteorite then we'll hook up. We found quite a bit of them buried. According to our archeologists there was a meteor shower that happened when a sizeable meteor shattered in the sky thousands of years ago. If there's any academics interested in the subject then we can negotiate a price.

Really hoping insomnia didn't hit tonight. But for real I need to sleep.

bump

>>20377449
My condolences sanallite. Deaths in the family really are tough.
Not to be insensitive, but I'll be compiling the vote results and making the Round 2 vote post within the next day. Do you think you'd be able to participate? If not, sanallites can decide on a temporary rep until you've properly dealt with what needs to be dealt.

Which reminds me, this is now an Anchor Post for the votes regarding >>20309076. Please reply to this post with your votes. >>20379004, if you could do that as well.
I didn't expect to need to make another one, we're really making a thread per day huh

>>20377449
Im sorry to hear that
I wish I could hug you

I made some changes to stuffs here and there, feel free to ask, make suggestions, request changes, things like that.
https://rentry.org/6cyuv

>>20385012
It's somewhat ambiguous since I think /nasa/ sometimes go out to the wasteland to pick up things like meteorites, where said security would likely be needed. Still, given the current situation, I think it's best to not push the rep for answers right now. We can still work out a deal of some sort for your private army, though.
For /meat/ mercs as a whole, I would say they accept payment in both mundane money and spoils (including captured enemies), as well as compensation in logistic costs like travel, shelter and any additional protection they might need.
Archetypically, /meat/ soldiers (especially the professional core - it's not uncommon for this time period to have officers join foreign wars for experience and some quick bucks) would be specialised in capturing enemies alive. While the weapons they prefer might look primitive (axe, shields, leather armour, slings), they should still hold up well against gunpowder weapons at the time, and plus is more versatile.
Basically, you shouldn't use them to storm stone castles, but things like skirmishes, ambushes, and capturing high-value individuals (or ships, if you have the suitable ships for boarding or cut out actions) would be up their alley.
Also, it should go without saying that they won't be willing to fight against /meat/ cult itself, but is usually fine with fighting other /meat/ mercs as long as they have the final say on how to handle the captured mercs.

>>20390398
Maybe Reimushroom could make the user invisible or something, basic mechanics could be absorbing the light around the shroom and the user... I'm not too sure how it would work thought, you'd need someone better at physics than me to make it work with chuubanite.

>>20390511
Hiring a /meat/ merc in a nutshell
https://youtu.be/S5Bvbf_3iH8

>>20390660
Put that badboy on some Kronii milk / water

Every commander shudder when their /meat/ merc says he's going for a walk

Since /meat/ is fundamentalist to a degree I'd say their mercs dont even care about money or loot
They just want to spread their word to every unbelieving heathens
By a blade to the neck and arrow to the brain

>>20286990
>>20374713
I journey from beyond, bringing tidings from my people. The Fandead are a noble people, but a people who no longer have a place they can call home in this world. Our home has been invaded and defiled by invaders; heretics and heathens who would establish a puppet state in our once proud homeland now ravaged by war. These Crusades against our Holy Land will not go unpunished, the universe will punish those who have engaged in crimes against our proud people.

It is with great sadness that we announce to you the untimely and sudden passing of our Queen's previous identity at the hands of these infidels. We do not wish to be forgotten nor have our Goddess forgotten. We ask that all the nations of the world remember her, not as she died but as she lived. As a being of the heavens she appears to those faithful to her in many ways but never again as the one that was prematurely taken from us. We still honor her image through our rich artistic culture and celebration of the many moments we shared together. Despite or loss of a homeland we have compiled archives that will be maintained and cherished for generations to come.

We are isolationist by nature, preferring to spend our time worshipping our Goddess than proselytizing like many others. It may be a long time before you hear from myself or my people.
One day we may return to this land, with her leading us out of exile through the wilderness, and into the promised land. Wherever that may be, all that matter is that she is there with us in tow.

>>20391193
we would prefer to capture people alive and bring them back to /meat/ as sacrifices. our efforts are towards a common goal, but it's not like we are any less willing to take money if it is offered. money can be useful, but /meat/ sees it purely as a means to an end. with that said, i wouldn't be against some /meat/heads getting involved in /nasfaqg/ and trading stocks and what not, not sure how that would work out, but i'm not opposed to it.

So far /meat/'s strategy has been manipulating their neighbors to redirect resources to their homeland
Elite cultists in foreign lands direct raids and trafficking rings
Mercs collect resources
Selling trade goods

>>20391621
Godspeed... Godspeed.

Land resource analysis for /meat/ soon to come, but the gist is:
>abundant metallic minerals
>virtually no fossil fuel
>jade and garnet as main gemstones

>>20391193
>>20391781
Having religious justification definitely helps morale, but ultimately money and/or spoils are still needed for more secular needs. A primary difference is that unlike most other religions, /meat/ very much like to make use of captives as resources for sacrifice (although ransoming particularly valuable individuals could be done for less dogmatic units).

>>20391880
Raids are directed from the homeland as well, although having foreign cultists lay the groundwork for successful raids definitely helps. For mercs, though, I won't say their primary function is to collect resources as most would understand it. They primarily serve as a supplement for human captives (and might be the main source of foreign meat in the future of this world when raids are no longer tenable), and to maintain an experienced core army between raids. Of course, loots coming from enemies are always a pleasant surprise, but they probably won't be a significant part of the economy.

The majority of land in /meat/ comes from relatively new (read: within 100 million years) orogeny. The mountains are relatively short, likely beneath 2km, but might steadily rise in the next dozens of millions of years. The majority of rocks in /meat/ will likely be igneous or metamorphic in nature due to young volcanic activities generated by the subduction zone west of the trench.
>Fossil fuel
Most likely negligible. Nothing approaching economic scale.
>Metal and ore
Abundant due to volcanism from subduction. Primary ore deposits will be, from east to west, porphyry copper (PC), epithermal gold (EG), and iron oxide copper gold (IOCG).
Copper will be the most abundant metal due to its significant presence in all three kinds of deposits. The same also applies to gold (relatively speaking) and, to a lesser extent, silver. Iron ore is somewhat common (from IOCG), usually in the form of hematite and pyrite.
Notable byproducts in smaller quantities include lead, zinc and silver (from PC and EG), tin (from PC), mercury (from EG, usually in the form of cinnabar), and antimony (from IOCG).
Molybdenum, tungsten, and a small amount of uranium also occur in these deposits (PC for Mo and W, U for IOCG), although practical use of them is beyond the technology of the world (barring possibly /inf/ for the first two). Uranium oxide was used to make glassware since Roman times for its unique colour.
Note that the same also applies to /vspo/ and, to a lesser extent, /hfz/.
>Gemstones
/meat/ likely has a decent selection of gemstones, most of it igneous and metamorphic in nature. The most common gemstones will be agate, opal, jade and garnets. For jade, the majority of it will be nephrite, a deceptively hard gemstone that is commonly used as tools and ornaments alike. The more valuable jadeite, while present, is likely much rarer. Another thing of note is that garnet is a mineral group, with colours covering the whole spectrum. Red is likely the most common colour for /meat/ garnets. It is also a hard gemstone that can be used to make abrasives, and carving tools before the advent of hardened steel.

/meat/ natural(-ish) resource
Minerals: >>20393636
Plants and fish: https://rentry.org/au94a
Chuubanite use: https://rentry.org/ioams
These should be what /meat/ have in stock when it comes to trade, barring processed goods like artefacts, animal products (or "animal" products). Please let us know if you're interested in trading for any of these, or if you think there is something I'm missing.
I'll be compiling them myself, so others don't need to anchor or archive them.

>>20393636
We have a lot of gems? Wow we keep getting more and more aztec stuffs

>>20393636
>>20393768
These are super well done, my guy. Did you analyze your geography and tectonics and climate for all that? I wish I could do that for my island.

/meat/'s literally carrying this project
From their aztec-norse culture, local goods, political ideology and society, foreign policies with cults and mercs, and their religion is not even chaotic cannibalism

>>20394174
>>20394043
Not wanna brag but we've been very adaptive. When climateanon made his analysis, I noticed the tropical environment and it fits with aztecy stuffs
Someone asked why the other countries would just allow raids and not declare war, and /meat/ came up with cults
We had an island off the coast of Hololive from the first iteration of the map which wouldnt make sense until we realize that it's near /ggg/ and Gura loves to /meat/ bait and even made a cannibalism stream. So we decided it made sense

>>20382729
that can work but I'd think using ice would be cheaper

>>20394472
Nah it's very admirable, I enjoy all this stuff. Your lore is the reason I reached out way back then, and have lurked whenever you guys have threads

>>20393980
Not a lot, but we have some choices in gems if we want to bling it up. Jade (which is also fittingly Aztec/Maya in aesthetics) will probably be the mainstay alongside agate, garnet and opal. We likely won't have many of the more valuables ones (sapphire, ruby, diamond, imperial jade and such) in stock, though. Basically, if we have to make money off stuff we mined from the ground (that isn't chuubanite), metal (especially gold) will be the choice rather than gemstones.

>>20394043
Yes, I was waiting for the tectonic analysis for the land resources, since mineral distribution is determined by geologic processes that are tied to tectonic activities. It wouldn't be done without the climate and tectonic analysis done by others, though.
For /inf/, I'm not as familiar with LIP (which forms the bulk of /inf/ island), although a glance on wiki suggest that it's usually associated with ore deposits like IOCG (iron, copper, gold), Nickel–Copper PGE, and diamond (among kimberlite). The shield craton on the NE island, being the last exposed remnants of the pre-supervolcano land, might provide a more accessible source of coal, as it might once in tropical lowlands in the distant past. The distribution of mineral resources is, as confirmed by the geologic province analysis, in line with existing /inf/ lore.

>>20394672
Whoa, that's super helpful. Damn, diamonds? Awesome. Thanks /meat/head.

>>20394672
metal and gems arent renewable so we might be extra protectionist about those
Probably
People during the old days dont give a damn about reserving resources. like that one time a king dumped platinum into the ocean believing it can be sued to make forged silver

>>20394775
It was the spaniards lmao
https://thejewelerblog.wordpress.com/2021/03/25/spanish-conquistadors-tossed-platinum-aside-when-searching-for-silver-in-colombia/
historical events where people blew resources by the tonnes make my blood boil. People back then were really drunk on luxury

>>20394977
Mansa Musa's gold spree...

>>20395099
now that one was based

>>20395123
>nasfag won big and goes on a worldwide trip
>gifts a gold bar to every peasant he meets
>great depression by the time he returns home

>>20395219
Or alternatively, consider the abayo
>nashag has had enough
>goes on a worldwide trip which ends in a final pilgrimage to his oshi's lands
>gifts away his entire wealth to those he meets along the way
>culminating in a lavish feast where everyone is invited
>when he has nothing left but the clothes on his back and a piece of rope, he hangs himself in the public

Bump

Average building in /morig/

Based on what I've seen so far, VT is a GrimBright world on the setting alignment
The world is bright and cheery, colourful and quirky, but the people are all on every kinds of messed up.
Everyone worships a colorful cute anime goddess but they all express their virtue through extreme means
Lands get nuked occasionally by schizos, deaths of gods, or even the jannies themselves
The two largest superpowers are decaying as their constituents keep splitting over every yab, but everyone doesnt care and resumed having fun
Peace is rarely an option but the parties involved dont care because thats what they wanted all along
Mad despots, cannibal cultists, zealous worshippers, tyrannical scientists, schizos of all kind, just having fun in a beautiful world

Kirin Separatists Declares Uprising Against Republic Owl!
https://youtu.be/wxF45JKTRWs

DON'T YOU DIE ON ME DAMMIT

/meat/'s missions

>>20400464
>Heathens International
The fetish isles...

>>20378269
There are some serious issues with this. Everything is way hotter now. I'm sure its not a problem to some generals, but if areas like /infinity/ want to keep their identities as areas with cold climate, they would have to move northwards. Currently they are well withing the China / southern japan climate zone

This could be circumvented with a few semi-handwavy solutions, such as moving the planet slightly further away from it's parent star, or perhaps the parent star could be dimmer this would likely have some other consequences though. Otherwise landmasses would have to be moved or several threads (infinity was just an example) would risk losing some of their identities.

I'll make a more in-detail explanation on what would change later on, these are just some first impressions I had looking at the new map.

I'm not the official Mori rep, but I know the one who is will see this post.

Been chit-chatting over in the Kronii general and people asked about potential friendly relationships or even an alliance. I voiced my support. Deadbeats, by-in-large, are very much pro unity. Whenever someone is friendly to use, we return the favor. And let's be honest, Kronii and Mori are a match made in heaven. So while I have extremely limited (which is to say none) experience in /vtwbg/, I just want to stop by to support and promote this potential friendship.
That's all. Thank you very much and I wish you all nothing but happiness.

>>20401286
Fair enough, in that case, we might have to work with globe anon to see how to keep the climates about the same while not having the poles be too distorted?

>>20401336
>when /meat/ and /morig/ fight against each other while their shared friend look on awkwardly

>>20401336
Thank you, deadbeat!

>>20401391
>>when /meat/ and /morig/ fight against each other while their shared friend look on awkwardly
I fucking forgot about this whoops.

Uhhh is the /meat/ rep here?

>>20401436
You could very well just not take part in wars between allies.

>>20401436
We will have to be careful to keep them separate on our endeavors. And if they fight between them we could offer Infinity island to be a place for peace negotiation.

>>20401436
Yes, I'm the one who made that post actually lol Though I think the sticking point is /morig/'s religion doesn't really like how we approach things

>>20401436
Im one of the reps
Although Im more of a cultural/worldbuilding type
Not the foreign relations expert

>>20401585
Would you be opposed to us having an alliance with /morig/, even if infinity wishes to remain employers of your mercenaries and friends with your country?
>>20401600
Love the lore my guy

>>20401621
It's cool with me

>>20401600
Maybe you should do a council for /morig/ and then chose one as you "bring news to /vtwbg/" guy/gal.

>>20401549
Infinity being a peace zone for morig and meat?
Considering the Earth sized distance, you know that would be like
>Morocco and Denmark going to Latvia

>>20401621
Thanks
I came up with the majority of graphics stuff like maps, the Endings compass, and that schizo troll watercolour

>>20401724
Umm, maybe we can ask amicability for /risu/ to host the talks on the west port city of our trade road, with our forces watching for the safety of the talks.

>>20401647
Good to know! Thank you, I'll move forward with the pitch to other
>>20401724
>>20401835
If the whole world regardless of distance can convene in Switzerland IRL, it should be fine I think...

Tfw /infinity/ is like a harem protagonist where two of his girls hate each other

>>20401807
https://files.catbox.moe/iyrf02.png
You made this?

>>20401925
>tfw your harem are death cultist and cannibal cultist.
It's School Days all over.

>>20402005
>cannibal cultist
Worse, deicidal cultist

>risu confirmed still coming on sotd
waiting for the (you) sperging out

>>20401992
Yes

>>20402144 (me)
And this too

>/meat/ has their own artist
Damn

>>20402031
>deicidal
I have to get read your lore, I feel an ignorant.

>>20402496
Hope you enjoy it! Maybe even give it a try...

Welcome to /meat/
Here's our anthem
https://youtu.be/UKl2lI_z3y4

>>20402176 (me)
And my magnum opus to /meat/, the flag itself
>>20402496
Try it...

>>20402519
>>20402531
>>20402605
Peer pressure... I promise to read the lore at least.

>>20402809
It's fine, take your time. It's why we have them all archived after all. That said, if you're curious about the deicide part itself, you might want to give the Goddess story in the story archive (https://rentry.org/longpork)) a read too.

Morning, anons
I wrote some story related to /who/, but Im no thread rep

https://rentry.org/52v36

also sorry in advance for any gramatical errors, Im ESL

Be Grand Mage of the /hlg/ Empire.
The secret cabal of esoteric magocracy have elected you to test their new device.
A vessel that can travel through time.
Powered by every chuubanite in existence. Even some that are impossible to obtain.
Who even still worship Siro? What kind of goddess is this 'Aloe'?
Doesnt matter, the device is ready.
The cockpit closes and the values are punched in.
The Divine Head Mage gives his last prayers to high goddess Sora and Azki
Without fear, you set off on your journey.
You land in your first destination.
If the wizards were right, in this timeline the worship of the primordial titanomachy never faded away.
You came across a traveling merchant and ask where are you and who does he worship.
He answered this is the Empire of Ai. Everyone here worships the same goddess Kizuna Ai.
It worked. IT WORKED!
After spending a week collecting documents, tomes, and artifacts from this new world in your vessel, you ready your machine and prepare to head back home.
Or so you think.
As the vessel lands, you realized that the world is different than usual.
Meeting the locals, you question them.
In this timeline, the worship of every deity of every pantheon was crushed under a regime of Phaseconnect.
Only Pippa, Uruka, and Tenma remains.
Not wanting to get arrested by the inquisition, you immediately escape to another world.
One where half of the world is flooded as the ice melted. A world where the Diluvian Thalassocracy of /ggg/ rules supreme over the planet
Another jump
Radiation and magic storms rage the planet. A world where the Holo Empire collapsed and the entire pantheon slain. The world of the 7th trumpet.
Another jump
A world inhabited only by independent and minor deities. Every grand pantheon from Holo, Niji, 774, Vshojo, was slain. /meat/ succeeded in this one.
Another jump!
You wont be coming home soon

>>20403791
https://youtu.be/75V4ClJZME4

So, here's something interesting
Any mediterranean climate country interested?
https://www.greeka.com/dodecanese/kalymnos/history/sponge-diving-tradition/
https://greekerthanthegreeks.com/2018/08/the-naked-sponge-divers-of-kalymnos.html

BUMP!

You will not die today!

>>20389437
/nasa/ already voted. Look at the archive where it was first posted.

>>20403231
Nice! Can't believe my lore actually helped you make a story, it's pretty interesting, I'll anchor it for you. As an aide for writing, if you're not sure how a word is written google it, it's helped me out quite a bit.
>>20374848

>>20407347
Spellcheckers built in Word (or the freeware equivalent) and even some browsers are pretty good at picking typo and nonexistent words out nowadays. Some even help you with grammar, although sometimes you might have to disregard it since they aren't perfect.
Still, pretty nice story >>20403231, don't see 2nd person prospective writing very often.

>>20407347
For a moment I though she had Okayu's cool glasses... but no, what she had is coffee.

Just discovered this thread. is the objective of all of this to just create a functional planet with basic lore /vt/ related or will it also include actual stories, like a lord of the rings situation but with chuubas

>>20407933
You can make stories, but the focus right now is in making and solidifying the lore

>>20407933
Right now we're filling up basic lore
Once that is completed, feel free to do whatever.
Inspiration for video game mod? Epic writing? Animation? Fanart? Go ahead

>>20407933
Like what >>20408048 said. Think of >us as creating a stage / canvas / foundation for something.

Right now we managed to attract rbc, rushia, mep as new additions
We need more non-holo reps. Tsunderia, haha, feet, horni, confession, ringo
What we need the most are chroniclers from the writefag gen

>>20406494
Oh I know, but I'll be making a second vote post sometime today because not all issues are resolved, hence round 2.
The second paragraph was for /rrat/, and any other thread that may appear.

>>20408215
After gathering all the votes tonight, I might also work on something for horni so I'll try to ask them then

Some of the potential hybrid endings I could think of involving /nasa/
>nasa & uuu
Green future. nasa tech and uuu environmentalism leads /vt/ world into an advanced green age. the planet unifies under a scientific world government, the worship of the goddesses of earth and space creates an understanding of advancing into space
>nasa & rbc
the robosans are given future tech to work on and improve. In just overnight this union became the most technologically advanced society on /vt/. With their dominance over chuubanite knowledge, they have managed to create the most industrious and scientific society. Soon the worship of Roboco and Sana meld into a monotheistic goddess of knowledge
>nasa & hlgg
hlgg out of desperation came to nasa in hoping of using their knowledge to help reunify the empire. however this came at a cost. hlg believed they were using nasa but once the spacemen got their end of the deal, they initiate their failsafe plan to disassemble all their tech using magic. nasa escapes back into space, searching for their goddess, while hlg is now stretched thin without advanced logistics technology. awaiting another balkanization.
>nasa & clg
The union of space worshippers of Sana, Lumi, & Moonjelly created the first Xenocracy Kingdom where the economy is heabvily invested into space. Asteroids are brought down weekly, harvesting rare minerals and chuubanite by the tonnes. Unfortunately they managed to crash the international market and thus went into isolationism and autarky
>nasa & hfz
hfz terraformed the moon into a satellite sized arena world. Every night from the surface you can see flashes of magical attacks and energies as fighters duke it out on the moon

>>20408419
>>20408487
Also, some preliminary questions for the voting process, which I should've asked earlier in hindsight:

When does a vote pass/get rejected? ie when the positive/negative answers are >50%, >75% etc
What happens if no option reaches the threshold (including abstains)? Does the option that is ahead win or do we revote?
Following the above, what happens in the case of a two-way or three-way draw?
What should happen in case the majority abstains?

I'll start working on gathering the results soonish, I just want some opinions for how to approve stuff

>>20401391
Globeanon here! So, I'll just throw up some possibilities so we can make a proper, informed decision on this.
Basically, these are the factors that we have to juggle:
Distortion
Size
Pole Area.
Distortion must be minimized because distortion makes it obvious these are non-real landmasses. (Pic 2)
Distortion can be easily reduced by increasing polar area. But increasing the polar area affects the climate. (pic 1)
We can decrease distortion and keep polar area down, by basically scaling the areas near the pole in the direction of the distortion. However, this make them smaller. (Pic 3)
Like, this makes kson nearly a tenth of the area of /ggg/, which I am not sure is something intended, and why I went with Pic 1 initially. But if preserving climates is of higher importance, this changes the calculus.
So basically there are tradeoffs whatever we do. I'm okay with any one decision personally.
Captcha: GGGTP

>>20409164
What's the size of the pole for pic 3, latitude-wise?

>>20409164
I propose that the current official map is in winkel tripel projection

>>20409392
That's 15 degrees of latitude.

>>20409164
ah, elliptical geometry, i fucking hate it.
I think pic 3 may work best, pic 2 could with some adjustment but like you said, this squeezes a lot of nations.

>>20393636
That's super impressive work! Would it be alright of me to ask if you could assist me on an analysis of that stuff for /rose/? We're all about being underground, but I'm no good with figuring out what materials we'd have...

>>20409164
Out of curiosity, how drastically would a bigger polar area change the climate? If it's a really big change, I'd say go for number three. I'm near a pole last I checked, so I'll end up with a lot less space, but I'm okay with that.

>>20409164
Thanks, picrel is the equirectangular projection map for that. Hopefully this one will be the best of both worlds.

>>20409722
Sure! I'll give it a look and see what I can do.

>>20409395
There's some potential there, but...
>/infinity/
oof lol
>>20409867
If polar nations are good with less land, that makes it easier. I guess a big difference between Vitubia and the Earth is that we have a lot more states near the poles. On Earth, we've most got an Arctic ocean and a big empty antarctica here.
>>20409915
Let's see what Climateanon thinks of this projection. I can also make proposals at any arbitrary latitude, you only need to ask.

reminder that /morig/ is the size of Madagascar

>>20410195
How about, /tg/ will punish me for saying this, Gall-peters Projection?

>>20410325
>Gall-peters Projection
Assuming the main map is a Gall-peters Projection would essentially just exacerbate the currently existing distortion, so I don't think that'll help. Inverted Gall-peters, where the areas at the poles are expanded and the equator contracted on the map is essentially what I did in Pic 3 here >>20409164

>>20410253
>/morig/ would win the Pandemic game
Based!

>>20410471
The third map pushes a lot of continents closer to the poles, might affect climate
I prefer Pic 1

>>20410646
The concern to begin with is that Pic 1 pushed continents away from the poles, affecting climate kek.

>>20410691
lmao
Anyways, as for the Arctic you could try using the first map
The northern section is still unused

alright fellas /pyon/ island is finished (unless they want something to change which they haven't told me that i haven't changed). this time it has roads/trails and some more towns. i know this kinda derails what you're all talking about so feel free to ignore this post

>>20410790
Oh neat, I didn't know about this map, I'll use this for the arctic pole.

>>20410915
Looks great anon, I'd wanna live at the tip of the North ear, looks like a comfy town.
what are significant figures lol

>>20410926
In fact, maybe these two sections connect to each other?

>>20411015
If this works we'll have a fucking hail mary!

>>20411015
Due to Polar distortion, that's not how it would work out if I just projected this map on the sphere, but I'll interpret the map to have this landmass right at the pole.

>>20411015
>>20410790
Does this make everything in the north a giant lake and not an ocean?

>>20411741
With this size and location, I think it would probably be described as a sea, similar to the Caspian Sea.

>>20411094
So that means, ships can sail into that territory and it's not entirely sealed off by land then?

>>20412294
Nope, it's still landlocked, like the Caspian Sea. Although it would also be mostly covered in ice, which the Caspian Sea isn't.

>>20410195
>>20409915 is a step towards the right direction, Its far far better than the previous one.
The southern tip of infinity island still extends into the tropics, possibly getting a northern florida like climate, but the northern parts could plausibly have something close to a Hokkaido which is sort of between humid continental and subarctic continental on our climate map

A lot of things would still change, mostly for the nations closest to the poles. No more tundra in /rose/ or /nasa/, most of the fetish continent becomes temperate.

For /infinity/ the easiest fix is to move the island northwards until a desired climate is found. The island is in the middle of the tectonic plate so this wouldn't really affect anything else on the map. Moving around nations that are near the edges of the tectonic plates might fuck things up more, so I wouldnt recommend the same fix to them.

Nations that are close to the equator are not affected as much. Nasfaqg would still be mostly mediterranean,except maybe a little bit drier than before I'd need to check with currents, /ggg/ and /meat/ are virtually unchanged.

Like I mentioned earlier I'm not going to do any effortful analyzing today since I really need to focus on irl stuff.

However, here is a map showing how much the position of the landmasses would shift though. Old position shown as a semi-transparent layer over the new one. You can really see how radical the change is in the far north and south.

>>20413473
How much of the northern sea will be frozen over with this new map? Could the countries that have access to the sea theoretically be able to use it to trade with each other?

>>20413782
I'd believe that to be possible only during the summers, assuming there are no landmasses there.

>>20413883
landmasses?

>>20414213
See the land north of the holocontinent in >>20409915 ? Those may extend to the polar ice caps, which would make the sea route impossible there.

Going the other way was already possible in the old map, it would be in the new map too.

How fucked will we be if there's a volcano in the south pole?

>>20413473
Alright, this seems workable. Shifting /inf/ northward doesn't seem too difficult. This might be a blessing in disguise, for many nations having to deal with the whole country being tundra is kind of a strong nerf, natural resources-wise. If we shift the continents much farther North you start to get stuff like /kson/ being a thirtieth of /ggg/ in surface area if you want to avoid strong distortion, so I suggest that we go for the 15 degree proposal.
I think shishilamy will probably also want to have land far up in the polar circles, so I'm thinking they could have territory in the polar land described here >>20410790

>>20413883
>>20414338
So that means if it's sealed, it would be totally frozen off even in the summer?

>>20414712
Yeah, a portion of the polar ocean would remain frozen year round. If the landmasses extend that far north, then there would be no sea passage, not even in the summer.

>>20409722
just in time for the end of her stream
I should note that the analysis is fairly rough, especially when it comes to gemstone, so take this with a grain of salt, especially if more knowledgeable anons decide to pitch in.
>preface
- /rose/ in on major niji plate
- southern /rose/ is primarily extended crust (passive margin, ultimately from niji-indie mid-ocean ridge)
- northern /rose/ is primarily basin (fold belt) with some orogen and shield, making it richer in terms of metallic ore

>fossil fuel
- likely decent coal, oil and gas deposits in north(east)ern /rose/
- some oil and gas deposits in southern /rose/?

>metallic ore
- IOCG deposits near the /haha/ border (iron, copper, gold, a bit of uranium)
- potential VMS deposits in similar locations (copper and zinc, with a minute amount of lead, silver, gold, and tin)
- Nickel-Copper PGE might be found in northeastern /rose/
- both IOCG and VMS deposits might spread further east due to groundwater movement (known as Mississippi Valley-Type deposit)

>gemstones
- for southern /rose/, common options include quartz, turquoise, opal, and beryl
- quartz of note includes amethyst and rose quartz
- northern /rose/ might be a source of corundum, which includes ruby and sapphire, and can also occur in the south from alluvial deposits

>extra notes (climate, plants and soil - subjected to change depending on how large the poles end up being)
- soil will likely be podzol and tundra soil - surface agriculture beyond herding is unlikely
- boreal climates will be able to support taiga, while tundra climate can only support mosses, grass, and some small tundra plants
- tundra soil is characterised by a thin layer of active soil above permafrost, which is also likely to be peatlands
- peat can be harvested and dried, its carbon content making it a good source of fuel (sometimes too good, making it a fire hazard)
- topsoil of tundra melts during the short warm season, forming waterlogged soil, puddles, and more bugs than an average Bethesda game
- reindeer will be a valuable animal resource for food and clothes (see Nenets)

>>20414867
Is there a chance someone will map out that part of the world completely?

>>20415331
Once we come to some kinda of consensus regarding the size of the poles, I will sculpt it out using >>20411015 as a basis, if there are no objections.
t. /3/friend

>>20415094
nta
do you have a full map showing the geologic provinces with nation borders? Could be extremely useful

Incredibly good work anon.

>>20415457
NTA, but here it is, whole document is glorious.
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

>>20415457
Only a very shitty one that I made in a minute to make the analysis slightly less painful

>>20415493
I mean a map including the nation borders
>>20415526
Thanks

>>20415421
Question, is it possible to change any of the unclaimed land masses in the north in order to make it not land locked? Or are we forced to follow the map shown?

>>20415588
We're not locked into anything in that regard. We could have a Strait of Gibraltar thing going somewhere, could be fun. Or we could start on a canal somewhere.

>>20415682
>spoiler
Oh I'm loopin'

>>20415526
Are the red arrows useful for the analysis?

NO CANALS!
Im still having ptsd over the last argument

>>20415682
>Spoiler
/infinity/ got crucified when they tried that.

>>20415862
not really It's to show which boundaries are convergent/divergent/transform, which have some implications on geologic activities. It can usually be inferred with geologic provinces, but the reason I made this reference map is to reduce the amount of effort I needed to flip between maps.

Also...
The poles would be frozen year round
Why would you even make a canal there??

>>20415739
>>20415977
>>20416006
>>20416076
kek I'm just funposting, the permafrost would make it even more of an insane endeavour.

>>20415682
>>20415682
Just for balance there should be straits on both sides, and they should be wide enough to where it's not frozen all the time. That way one country isn't given incredible influence over trade on the region because they could act as a gate keeper.

Pic related would be an examples of where to put them.

>>20416006
I dont mind canals if theyre done logically
Waterlocks in a mountainous valley for example
But infinity wanted to dig through /risu/'s plain with a distance of the Yellow River
Which is totally insane

>>20416165
>/infinity/
>Insane
Did you expect anything less?

>>20416163
This... would actually be the solution we need against the /nasfaqg/-/#/-/ahoy/ monopoly over East-West travel
So traders going from both hemispheres have two choices
The safe route with a ton of tolls
The hard route through the ice

I cant believe the discussion over the North Pole just introduced a game changer!

>>20416254
>nasfaqg
>tolls
You underestimate how much they hate taxes over there

>>20415094
Thank you so much, bud! This'll help a ton, really! It's gonna be so much easier to plan for what unique inventions and stuff /rose/ would have after being underground and relatively isolated for so long. Sounds like we have quite a lot of diversity in our materials too, which is fantastic for us!
And uranium could mean nuclear things in the future for /rose/... Hm...

>>20416300
What if I tell you...
Private owned companies can enact tolls under 'service charges'

>>20416254
First of all, I don't get why you think there are "lots of tolls" while /#/ and /ahoy/ said nothing about tolls and /nasfaqg/ openly said that it'd just have laws forcing traders to stay for a day or two and present their wares, likely while their crews rest.
Second of all, I don't see why you'd need a "solution" for trading countries having lots of trade.

>>20416163
I'll do you one better. There is a strait on the left, and a thin isthmus on the right.
On the left are the schizo wastelands, meaning there is no organization that would control the passage. On the right is shishilamy, who would have to invest in an expensive canal if they wanted to make use of this route.

>>20416365
>I don't see why you'd need a "solution" for trading countries having lots of trade
Insurance. In case war breaks out whoever owns the straits with a side can block international trade
Remember the Ottoman blocking the Spice Trade, or the Brits during WW2
It's less about merchants making money and more about influence putting your food supply at gun point

>>20416371
>Another canal
We had this timeloop already.

Just make the area north of shishilamy water.

>>20416466
I don't see this as a bad thing. From a worldbuilding standpoint, I see those as interesting things. The world isn't a competitive FPS, it doesn't need to be perfectly balanced.

>>20415526
>>20416043
I cant believe I didn't include these sort of maps with the original post. Stellar work anon.

Geologic Provinces with borders and labels
https://files.catbox.moe/udvzvu.png
Geologic Provinces with borders
https://files.catbox.moe/5k3evm.png

These and/or >>20415526 could be used as prospecting maps.

These use the base ocean texture though

>>20416365
>>20416254
I'm starting to think it was this alliance that scuttled the /inf/ canal.

Why would /ahoy/ even go sicko mode and blackmail everyone's trade?

>>20416466
Insurance for whom? /nasfaqg/ is unlikely to be involved in any kind of war, and definitely won't block the very thing that's keeping them prosperous. If someone else tries to close the straits, *then* /nasfaqg/ would likely have issues with it and try to break though it.
>>20416552
I'm thinking the same.

>>20416546
So how does the northern land all connect?

>>20410253
They're shaped like it too. Is /morig/ just Paradis?

>>20416502
The canal could easily be built by shooting down /moon/'s super secret lunar laser weapon down on earth to make the hole

>>20416589
TBD and undergoing discussion.

>>20416589
No clue. these maps do not show the poles

>>20416606
Anywhere with Mori is heaven to me.

>>20416606
>deadbeats have a WMD of giant skeleton monsters
IF I LOSE IT ALL!! SLIP AND FALL!!

>>20416254
There is a third route for those daring...

>>20416552
>>20416585
Oh, I misread what you said: by "I'm thinking the same" I thought that you meant that the same people who pushed for the /infinity/ canal now are pushing for the other canals.

>/morig/ has giant skeleton monsters in their walls
>/meat/ has an eldritch horror in their mountain
>both civs are sworn rivals
Let. Them. Fight.

>>20416817
You're clearly part of /nasfaqg/, and any canal would be bad for business for you so you'd be against it.

>>20416254
NORTHERN PASSAGE
>hard route
>open only during summers
>maybe not even every summer

SOUTHERN PASSAGE
>Easier route
>Open year round
>Offers multiple locations to conduct further trade
I don't really see how the northern passage would threaten /nasfaqg/, /ahoy/ or /#/. It cant be used most of the year, and even when it can going that way likely loses you profits.

>>20416365
I dont remember >us ever canonizing that
t. nasfag (not the rep)

>>20416817
I'm part of /∞/ and I'd prefer we just create two straits instead of having to worry about canals given the last shtistorm.

>>20416940
Then there's no objections to setting up a northern route.

>>20416765
So that's how deadbeats are related to skeletons, instead of being literal skeletons, they instead can transform into skeleton mechs maybe.

>>20416994
Some anons do have objections. I just dont

>>20416954
And why alter the map to create straits and divert trade away from the trading nations? You know, those for whom trading is basically most of their identity?
/nasfaqg/ is already smaller than most other nations because we were one of the first ones to claim land. We got shafted by the zoning autism when Holocontinent changed places and we were no longer central to it, this change would make /nasfaqg/ a fucking Niji trading nation.
>>20416940
Whether there are issues with it or not depends on precisely where the northern route is located. If it's Southern Russia-tier then I see no issues, since it's not commercially viable and navigating it is a desperate move.

>>20417117
Well, these aren't alterations to the map, we are currently mapping out sections of the world that were off-map until now.

>>20417262
Oh, those that were off-map? But even if it's the polar ocean, wouldn't the whole route be covered in ice?

>>20417117
>this change would make /nasfaqg/ a fucking Niji trading nation.
The only I do with niji is exchanging blows with pomuniggers

Okay okay. basic economics.
1. Reminder that there are thousands of private companies
A couple dozen going through the northern passage wouldnt affect the majority picking the safe route

2. nasfaqg, #, and the rest are trading nations, entrepot, etc. Meaning they would have attraction power that makes people HAVE to go there. If youre a trading nation with goods people want, it means that even if some traders take the shortcut they are still forced to go to your place to buy goods not available elsewhere.
So the existence of the northern straits in practice should not even make a dent in your ledger
In fact, there wouldnt be any downside. Since moving north meant nothing if they have to buy your goods

>>20417361
The exact extent of the polar ice sheet is not certain atm and would vary over the year. But it would probably be completely blocked off for a part of the year at least.

>>20417117
From what can be seen on the map, the straits will be at 75th parallel at the very least, which makes their navigability questionable with our current technology. Depending on the shape and position of the north pole landmass, it would be either Northeast Passage (first navigated 1878-79) or Northwest Passage (first navigated 1940-42). If anything, it would likely be barely an improvement over going around the southern pole instead (see >>20416804 for RL example). Of course, given the outcrop of /asp/, the ships will have to sail through the Screaming Sixties, where the usual condition is picrel

>>20417366
1. is true, but 2. is bullshit. Straits and geographical locations introduce natural trading points. /nasfaqg/ wasn't writen to be an industry-heavy country, rather one that utilizes the traffic moving to it to be the ideal trade center. The presence of an alternate route /will/ detract from that.

>>20417366
Finally someone with common sense.
Trading nation means people would still have a reason to visit you. Youre the ends, not the means. nasfaqg and # are selling goods. Products. Not relying 100% of their income off tolls

>>20417534
Trading nations didn't make most of their profit from tolls, but rather movement of goods. Look at the strait of Malacca for example, or Cape of Good Hope.

>>20417568
That is what I meant
As long as nasfaqg and # buy and sell goods people need, the existence of a strait halfway across the map is voided out of practice
Why go through icebergs to get goods?

>>20417505
>75th parallel
Oh. That's deep inside the Arctic Circle. Then you are right, straits there wouldn't be commercially viable, and thus wouldn't distract from /nasfaqg/'s trade.

Alright. If it is going to be like this, then I do not see an issue with those straits.

>>20416804
>>20417701
Do we have some kind of 40's, 50's, 60's?
I know that pic related is the FUN ZONE
He who controls the FUN ZONE controls the seas of Holo

I think this might be of interest in the current conversation. This is based on 1980-2010 data.

>>20417789
We'll likely have a Screaming Sixties in the south, since that's where the landmass truly becomes scarce. The outcrop of /asp/ might make it not a true circumpolar route, but it'll likely be the fastest way to sail from eastern niji (even holo) to the western hemisphere. Of course, the water will be *very* rough* due to the strong wind and current, but like they said, fortune favours the bold.

Did you know that this region here has the same size as the mediterranean irl?
Someone needs to make a Earth vs VT size comparison

Gotcha. Using gall peters for more accuracy. Fuck mercator
Holy shit some of us got HUGE lands
Really huge swathes. i feel bad for those that got polar wastelands while some hogged all the land

>>20418300
Alternate angle
INFINITY'S NOT AN ISLAND! IT'S AS BIG AS SPAIN!

And yes. /morig/ IS Madagascar

>>20418300
>>20418435
I recommend mercator since thats probably what the map uses

>/infinity/ is as big as central europe
No no no no, bros!! This cant be happening!!

>the ocean between /ggg/ and /tsun/ is as wide as the Pacific
Really put things into perspective

>/infinity/ just exported a schizo into /nasfaqg/
To whoever before said that /infnity/ schizos don't raid other threads over /vtwbg/, you were wrong.

>>20418734
>exported
There are at least 3 or 4 nasfaqg regulars who lurk or post in /infinity/. I think its more accurate to say that /nasfaqg/ is importing stuff from infinity.

>>20418544
Here
Also 3 different positions
I repeat. INFINITY IS NOT AN ISLAND

>>20419057
>the funzone is as big as the atlantic
fuck I never knew it was that huge!

>>20419057
also one thing of note, /meat/'s distance from the mainland to their tiny island is the same distance as denmark and iceland
It fits their viking theme I guess and it's not illogical

Whaddya know, turns out the polar straits a nothinburger after all
nasfaqg is indonesian sized and too far from the poles. It wouldnt affect them at all

>>20419311
If it's navigable, it would. The point is that it'd be likely less viable to cross than the Northern Trading Route IRL.

>>20419057
>/meat/ to /ggg/ is Denmark to iceland
>/ggg/ to /ppg/ is the entire pacific
>/morig/ is 1:1 madagascar
>the big trade circle is the atlantic
>nijien is as big as China
Really puts into perspective

>>20419057
>/Infinity/ is the same size as Nazi Germany

>>20419701
Wo wir sind da geht's immer vorwärts,
Und der Teufel der lacht nur dazu!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Big props to Climate Anon for the tectonic stuff. I know you said a while back it wasn't a huge priority for you, but it turned out great and full of really interesting info

>>20419057
It should technically be possible to calculate each countries' exact area using this, shouldn't it?

>>20421207
Well, you could do that ever since we decide the planet should be Earth sized. The only issue is accounting for distortion.

>>20419701
Well that puts into perspective why you always look funny at us.

>>20417117
>And why alter the map to create straits and divert trade away from the trading nations?
Because why let the /vt/ Jews run this world too?
And you should be enterprising like some /nasfaqg/ anons and start cutting trade deals instead of expecting everyone to come to you so you can jew them fag.

>>20421931
>/morig/ is the jews
>/inf/ is the jews
>/meat/ is the jews
>/nasfaqg/ is the jews
It's not stopping...

>trying to change the world specifically to cripple another thread
/infinity/ hands typed this post

>>20422060
I'd just like to re-iterate, these aren't changes, they're proposals for entirely new content.

I though we were Nazi Germany per >>20419701, which would be strange given we would have friendly relationships with all the Jewish per >>20422028 post.

>>20422141
You're jew nazis.

>>20422141
you can be the isreal of the world then

>>20422141
No, you're definitely the Jews, banished from 109 threads.

>>20422141
>I thought we were Nazi Germany
That's /hlgg/

>>20422136
Explain your logic.

>>20422196
>>20422199
>>20422206
Well, we're going "go big or go home" on trade...
>>20422276
That... kinda makes sense.

>>20422136
Not what the anon is suggesting and why he's suggesting it. He wants the trade route and he wants it to be viable against any reasoning specifically to "bypass an /ahoy/-/#/-/nasfaqg/ monopoly" to target their trade, even though none of those nations said that they'd introduce tolls. Remember that he argues specifically /against/ a thread and then thinks of map changes.

>>20417789
>diagram of ocean currents creates the image of a skull in profile
It was predestined.

>>20422406
If the argument is in favor of breaking up a monopoly, why would anyone who's not part of the monopoly be against it?

>>20422196
So... normal nazis

>>20422571
"I hate this thread so let's edit the map after it's finished to fuck them over" isn't a valid stance.
Besides, it's not a "monopoly" nor are there any "tolls" in place. Trade is also apparently an integral part of the identity of those three threads, so it'd be like arguing to burn /nasa/'s science down to 1700's because it's in favor of breaking up a technological advantage, why would anyone who's not having it be against it?

>>20422726
/nasa/ in particular IS a bad example considering they're being forced to use the available technology in the world, they only hold very few "modern" things

I see a few people worrying about unlocking some kind of godly northern trade route with the shishilamy strait or something similar, so I thought I'd use globe powers to put things in perspective.
In lime green, something similar to what the North Pole land would look like based on >>20411015
In purple, where the proposed straits would be.
In red, the Northern route through the straits.
In blue, the Northern route, without the straits.
Basically, I'm saying the presence or absence of the straits has basically no effects on efficient trade routes. It simply makes more countries connected to the rest of the world through sea routes.
Mind you, I don't feel strongly one way or another, just saying the trade route argument doesn't hold water kek.

>>20422861
it'd be iced over half the year too

>>20422861
All of the black circle except for outer edges is basically frozen over the whole year, too. There's a reason why the Northern Sea Route only became viable lately with icebreakers and global warming reducing the ice coverage.
I support the straits, just note there there is a single anon who wishes to change the world and its terrain specifically to negatively impact select threads (regardless if it would or not).

life is pain but hello gentlemen

>>20423109
Hello, beloved nutter. You arrive just in time to enjoy Vitubia trade route autism.

>>20422861
The land trade route would be useless in the winter. We're talking arctic temperatures that freeze fuel if we have powered transport. And even with ice breakers the sea route would be too perilous with ice bergs.

>>20423159
I saw a lot of shit about rocks/gemstones and my autism is EXTREMELY big with this. I wanna know about what kind of stones would be in /risu/ so i know what my arrowheads are made of among you know....all the other uses. Gemstones as well since risuners would probably have some decorations or more likely use then in some sort of alchemy. Not that mining is a thing they prioritize but there would be a thing. Also did we decide on vitubium vs chuubanite yet?

>>20422406
>>20423099
>>20422726
As the anon who originally wanted the straits, you can take your schizo slander and shove it up your ass.
I want them just to allow for easier sea travel among the northern countries since their conditions are already screwing them over as is. Having your coastline only be apart of a landlocked sea is rubbing salt in the wound.

>>20423109
Life is like a nut Risuner, hard on the outside but once you break it you get to the tasty stuff.
t. Gramps.

btw hi!

>>20423500
why hello there.

Ah yes it is time for me to make my road route extension for /mep/ as well as ask what kind of gems/rocks risu would have. I get that my land is essentially supposed to be indonesia but one landmass if im not mistaken.

>>20423239
Yep, both routes would be iced over in winter. The route through the inland Holosea would be completely locked, and you'd need to take a pretty wide arc around the arctic circle for the sea route.
>>20423363
I am partial to this interpretation. Personally, I think only a strait in shishilamy is necessary for this, since a strait on the other side would place an important strategic location in the hands of the schizo wastelands, which is kinda weird. Also, the shishilamy geography is well suited to this. And it makes the region just like a polar Mediterranean Sea, which is neat.

>>20423363
I meant this anon:
>>20416254
>>20421931

>>20423599
The route ideally would go to an important city on /mep/, maybe they can give you an idea where that would be.

>>20423295
>Also did we decide on vitubium vs chuubanite yet?
Working on it. Just finished my kanji reps so I'll start accumulating the votes now. It'll take a few hours to process though
>>20423600
>would place an important strategic location in the hands of the schizo wastelands, which is kinda weird
I actually think this would be a positive, as it'd make for some good lore, especially if schizos actually get some navy.
The reason I'd be against a strait there is I feel the distance is to large for it to be logical, but that's just my opinion
>And it makes the region just like a polar Mediterranean Sea, which is neat.
True

/mep/ needs to provide some sort of reference to major cities then. But I do want it to go near the gulf as I assume they would have a lot of stuff there especially with their love of fishing and its significance.

I assume, with these arguments, that we won't be raising the tech level again right? Current level is our cap?

>>20374887
CANDY KINGDOM LORE
>Society in Candy Kingdom revolves around the knighthood. Everyone is expected to join the Luknights when they come of age, but not everyone does traditional knight activities. Some citizens don't work at all, and are known as "Luneets".
>Clothing is either plate armor or designed to look like plate armor. Lots of pinks and purples. Wearing other kinds of clothes, as long as they praise Luna or are pink/purple, is also acceptable.
>Candy Kingdom citizens grow lots of sugar, using a special cold-adapted crop. It is sweeter sugar than the kind grown in warmer climates. There are also many breweries and associated grain farms, and sweet alcoholic drinks are popular. Lastly, in the south, there is a notable pig ranching industry, worked by so-called "Bunaitos"

I would also like to assume that /inf/ has made its presence on /risu/ by now? I have an update to the story if so.

>>20423717
Que? Why should things be easy for you or anyone else? I told you non-lazy members of /nasfagq/ are already cutting trade deals so even if 10 different trade routes that bypassed /nasfagq/ opened up, they'd still have business. The fact you're whining so hard about a route that won't work in the first place only makes you look worse off.

>>20424126
Yes since the no-protectorate deal we have technical staff working with Risuners about the roads.

>>20424290
Ya blew it. I am one of those people cutting trade deals. Besides that, you could argue this about any advantage. I want for /nasfaqg/ to hold onto this one because we were shafted when it comes to size and location (on the extremely far peripheries of the Holocontinent) before, so there's a limit on how much the thread can be pushed around.

>>20424290
Ya blew it. I am one of those people cutting trade deals. Besides that, you could argue this about any advantage. I want for /nasfaqg/ to hold onto this one because we were shafted when it comes to size and location (on the extremely far peripheries of the Holocontinent) before, so there's a limit on how much the thread can be pushed around.
Also, I am not "whining" about the route. I am pointing out that there are several anons who support a change or an addition to the map specifically to disadvantage several threads in what is crucial to their functioning.

>>20424650
NTA, but if you just want to take a stand against Vitubia anti-semitism, that's fine. Just keep in mind that in this instance the point is moot due to s p h e r e >>20422861 , and the idea was devised mainly to throw a bone to northern holonations, who would otherwise be stuck with only access to a mostly frozen salty sea with no access to the rest of the world.
If anything, the strait allows /nasfaqg/ to cut deals with more markets! In summer, anyway.

>>20424650
>jewfaqg admitting it's all about them.
>and trying to pretend they're the victims when they were one of the first groups to pick their territory.
Move aside deadbeats, the real jews have shown up.

>>20424072
>>20374848
You replied to the wrong post

>>20424906
Uh-huh, and when we picked it, remember which continent was zoned there? You know, a continent which a Holo-related thread wanted to be well-connected to?
>>20424866
I already responded to it and I agreed with the straits. They aren't a problem, don't misconstrue the argument.
The issue is several people who'd want to specifically modify the terrain specifically to screw us (which in this case is not true as it turned out, but this is how they argument being /for/ the change) rather than arguing it by saying it'd throw a bone for the northern nations.

>>20424072
As a luknight, I assume that means we'll either be importing lots of metal or building mine systems so that we can harvest our own. Will we fund it through the taxation of our loyal bunaitos?

>>20425181
You have have easily have requested another area once zoning was finalized, you're just trying to drag everyone else down rather than finding a way to take advantage of the sitution.

>>20425181
You could have easily have requested another area once zoning was finalized, but you're just trying to drag everyone else down instead of finding a way to take advantage of the sitution.
You're the same type of group that would sabotage innovation because the status quo is more profitable. Fuck that.

I want to visit /uoh/ but I'm not a loli. I want to study their culture. Wut do?

>>20425500
The /uoh/ springs make you a loli so long as you're in its area of influence, iirc.

>>20425500
>The /uoh/ sexual tourism industry

>>20425500
Use the lead plated armor suit (don't worry about lead poisoning or cancer)

>>20425343
I'm specifically pointing out the existence of rabid posters like you, ESL-chama, not trying to "drag everyone else down". I support the straits, do you still not understand that?
When it comes to "requesting another area", remember that it was Nuetralfag who "solved" that issue and quickly populated the Holocontinent, meaning switching would have been difficult and would have to dislocate other threads.

>>20423942
/mep/resentative here. The main center of the city would be somewhere around the blue circle.

Well looks like this is a good thread to reference once I propose to modify swats of lands for progress and innovation.

Wouldn't it be funny if /uoh/'s springs making /nasa/ space ladies into lolis boosted their immune systems?

>>20425636
What do you mean?

>>20425500
/uoh/'s Everest Olympus Mons is made of concentrated chuubanite
In uoh territory, you steadily regress physically. Like a fountain of youth.
The longer you stay, the younger you'll look. Until a maximum of prepubescent age.
Dont be fooled, the lolis and shotas of uoh can be adults. Living on a mountain of youth means you look young all your life even when you finished school, got a job in the guilds, and start a family up until having a great great grandchild

>>20425614
Your lies betray you jewfaqg, you're already on record saying "I want for /nasfaqg/ to hold onto this one " Why are you lying saying you support the straits now when you fanatically against it and scapegoating other groups?

>>20425500
As long as you have no ill intent, the land shall allow you passage.

>>20425745
Would having youth have the benefit of resetting your adult immune system to a child's system? Meaning allergies or diseases as an adult could be reversed.

>>20425763
Yes, unsurprisingly, I want for the trading nation of /nasfaqg/ to hold onto a straits that are critical to trade. You've demasked me. I also want for /kfp/ to hold onto their mountain, /infinity/ to hold onto their island and steampunk aesthetic they deemed important, for /nasa/ to have their space lore and for /sakuran/ to have shrine maidens. Very controversial opinions to let the threads be good at what they're good at, for sure.

I've been supporting the straits from the start if they were like the Northern Sea Passage, learn to read >>20417117.

>>20425725
With how people think. that's a clue. Also a tip for making deals, nerfs are not real. Once you hypothetically made a deal, only the advantages per se are in effect. Especially if you are nerfing yourself based on time/weather/seasons.

>>20426003
I still don't understand what you mean, anon. Also, what do you mean by "nerfing yourself based on seasons"? Has anyone suggested that? I'm lost.

Ok re doing my road thing now. Learned how to re size stuff in photoshop.

>>20425923
Yes, it's the perfect utopia.

>infinity
>island
You sure? It's as big as Germany

>>20426102
I'm just an ESL and a schizo. Pls ignore me

>>20425987
Then why throw such a loud bitchfit to begin with jewfagqs, it's clear you're still against it even if it's a high risk, low reward route as pointed out. Unless you're just trying to monopolize and the other anon claiming you're setting up a toll system was on the money.

>>20426235
germany is not a continent tard

>>20426263
Another nasfaq player here. Tax hate is a nasfaq culture. You can check the game itself on how much the taxman stole from the players to verify this. As much as we can, toll/tax will remain nonexistent.

>>20426424
But if you have a monopoly on the only trade route, you're not going to keep it free. That would be business malpractice. So what are you looking to gain from having this monopoly?

>>20426263
Because I detest altering the map specifically to advantage/disadvantage specific threads if it's done in that intent. I agree that the polar ocean change is necessary, and it's done for the consistency of the world and the map overall. I'd be against removing land from /ggg/ because they are "too big" if someone argued it like that.
The way you and the other person argued for those straits is to have a strong commercial alternative to the Southern straits specifically to target and disadvantage a couple of threads. This is what I'm against from the start, regardless if it's /nasfaqg/ or any other thread. Obviously I'm more outspoken about it since it targets my thread, no doubts about that, but the sentiment is universal.

Should straits be implemented, >>20390511 I, Butwhy TheFuck Trading Company (BWTF) would like to make a deal with your nation to create a mercenary company.

It's primary objective would be to stay in the schizo wastelands and protect the assets of BWTF or anybody else's who wishes to employ our services when moving through the straits. BWTF plans to create a harbor for ships to rest and resupply in, while also offering protection services by elite /meat/ mercenaries.
Secondary to that is the training of the BWTF private army which is is selected from the elites in the mercenary company. Details for number and years in service is up to /meat/ and what is favorable to both of us

Money is split to a mutually favorable ratio, with most of it going to the BWTF Company.
Spoils of war goes to the /meat/ mercenaries and they can do what they wish for corpses, weapons, loots and etc. that they acquire.
Food, Transport, Shelter, Weapons and maintenance of the after mentioned will be shouldered by BWTF

Damn how does clocks do the larp, this is hard

>>20426656
Pass, work on your fan fiction skills first.

>>20426710
damn, how the fuck do I do that

>>20426656
You're not horny enough

>>20426503
it's not about the tolls, it's about the traffic it will generate. People don't stay on their boat once they ported, services abound. A little bit of happiness in a year long journey. But at the same time, do the current thread people here have any reason to travel on our side of the world? AFAIK nijilands are pretty much dead right?

>>20426503
You are going to keep it free, because tolls are the way non-trading nations capitalize on straits.
A place like /nasfaqg/ on the other hand would be a natural resupply/trading point there, where a lot of different vessels with wares around the holocontinent pass through that strait. This would mean that at this precise location, you'd have access to massive amounts of competitive goods that you could potentially buy, transform, re-sell, or the like.

It's not about income from tolls or taxes - it's about availability and goods, the free trade/free market benefits. A place to conduct trade for anything.

>>20426808
Even if there are no active anons for a thread, I think we're still RPing as though they were living nations. Just without any detail or specific deals that would require a representative.

>>20426656
Nice, a Sanalite /nasfaqg/ trader.

>>20426752
God I wish I had a nasfaq gf

>>20426808
>>20426820
>Resupply point
And that's the toll, sure you get supplies, but you make it sound like people don't have another choice and you can raise prices accordingly.

>>20426561
No, you're against it because you see it as a disadvantage and a threat to yourself jewfagq. Are you going to conveniently forget all your whining and playing the victim about your placement when you got to pick where you country was located early on? And could have chosen to move it somewhere better.
And before you complain about changing the map, the map got changed when the new land was added causing the ocean to become a land locked sea, which then screws over not just 'a few' countries, but 12 separate countries. They have a right to have access to the ocean like everyone else since technically there originally was a northern passage, the new map removed that, so those people who care about fair play want the passage restored.

>>20426887
Is this true? It's one thing that holding me back desu, I don't want to touch dead generals to make one sided "deals". Vote?

>>20426808
You could always ask for them to join.

>>20426107
Our little tree rat is growing so fast *sniff*

>>20423600
But isn't the black area is frozen over year round?
>>20422861
That means the strait in shishilamy would only helps mion, nene, stars, mogudoog and zomg.
cig, moon, kson, ppt, matsuri, rbc and mel, choco and rosenthal are still sealed off unless a strait is made north of the schizo wastelands. Wihich is unclaimed territory so it wouldn't matter if some of the land mass is sunk to create the strait.

>>20427031
Wdym price? This world is a 1:1 barter system right? Nasfaq would be stupid to play with price, it's impossible. Also nations are already trading with one another? How can we take advantage in regards with prices?

>>20422482
cant unsee it now, thanks

>>20427236
Location, location, location.
If you're the only location people can get something from, you're going to raise your prices. Take an airport for example. The food there is extremely overpriced, why? Because you don't have access to any competitors. That's exactly what /nasfagq/ was banking on when you picked your location.

>>20427031
They can literally just go to another city/thread to resupply if the prices are jacked. Besides, mind you that /nasfaqg/ isn't a singular entity. If there's a business in a privately owned district of a city that'd jack up the prices, others would simply take its place. It shows that you know/read nothing about how /nasfaqg/ works internally.
>>20427099
Changing the narrative ESL-chama, aren't you? Where's your "let's bust the /nasfaqg/'s (nonexistent) monopoly!" argument that you constantly pushed before I called you out on it? This is the first time you've even mentioned the northern countries, sorry that I care more about them than you, seemingly.
And gold-medal level of mental gymnastics here, both criticizing /nasfaqg/ for not moving and acting as if the other nations couldn't move.

If you don't have enough self-awareness to admit that you're wrong, at least have enough decency to stop posting.

>>20427426
itt: people who have no idea how the economy works

>>20427229
>But isn't the black area is frozen over year round?
According to this, for the Earth, >>20417843 Polar ice retreats as far as the 80 degree parallel at the warmest, so I believe the passage North of /ppt/ would just about open up in summer.

>>20427426
People said our island position wasn't good for trade, and it isn't, but we saw the KIRA reference working with /mep/ and /anyapetra/ and even if the idea of the canal was bad it made us friends with Risu. I think that creative writing/solutions are the best.

>>20427502
>jewfagq is now clinging to grammar errors because he doesn't have valid argument against the facts he is opposed to the northern passage only because of his own greed
Sad, and true.

>>20427545
Then explain why goods are overpriced compared to their counterparts when your choices are restricted.

>>20427426
>Location, location, location
Nasfaq is a gate for deadlands anon ie the nijilands. Nobody use our straits. Now with the addition of these new straits, there will be no revival. Did you notice that nasfaq merchants are making deals towards the main continents? Our location sucks ass as of the moment.

>>20427781
The new straits represent new opportunity for profit then.

>>20427751
Explain how your choices are restricted in a situation where you don't have to stop in a nation, and even if you do so out of convenience you have no central goverment to implement taxation or tolls, and the whole country is one gigantic free-market "every man for himself"-fest? You go there, and you have access to thousands of different suppliers.
The point is that this traffic and passage of goods is what creates opportunities to buy FREE OF the jacked up prices.

this went from doing map stuff to learning photoshop basics

>>20427927
What other nations would you stop by on the quickest route? Ahoy? Don't be retarded.

>>20428007
quickest route to where?

>>20427972
Layers, layers, layers. It's all on the layers.

>>20427880
Ok, so the tax/location argument is moot then?

QRD on why there is a schizo attacking /nasfaqg/?

>>20428007
/#/, /ahoy/, /lazulight general/, /2434/, /watamelon/, /bakatare/, /nijimale/, /anya-petra global/ are allll on the shortest route.
Also, please answer the second part. How does one manage to "control the prices" in a borderline anarcho-capitalist society with barely any central government?

>>20428182
Jews and monopoly

>>20428182
No idea, they were there before. I remember seeing posts about "/#/-/ahoy/-/nasfaqg/ jew monopoly" before worded precisely like that. They just activated now since they /thought/ (wrongfully) that they had an opportunity to disadvantage those threads.

>>20428182
They're against throwing the northern holo countries a bone by giving them a strait since their ocean is landlocked in the new map.

>>20428201
Maximum profit isn't the objective? sad jews.

>>20428182
I don't know honestly. Must be one bored anon. Based on speech analysis, I'm pretty sure it's just one guy.
I hope it's not a clock that got triggered by me bringing up canals as a joke.

>>20428272
We're not? Three /nasfaqg/ people responded, every single one saw no issues with the straits themselves, I saw a problem with someone who clearly had a hateboner for /nasfaqg/ and I called him out for it and now he's raging hard.

>>20428334
Maximum profit from an individual's standpoint, meaning that every /nasfaqg/ trader competes with other /nasfaqg/ trader. If monopolies develop, it's because of their success/unique goods/services and they can be challenged.

>>20427186
Goodbye anon's feet.

>>20428386
That's you being a schizo.
Explain this Jewfagq clearly being against it saying.
> I want for /nasfaqg/ to hold onto this one

>>20428646
Why are you so obsessed with jews? Did one molest you as a child?

>>20428740
>Trying to distract from the point you're a lair
Also don't bring up your own childhood.

>>20428182
Probably a clockschizo, they're almost always the ones who shit up this general.

My SEAnigger senses are tingling

>>20428646
Since you seem to be lacking in short-term memory amongst other things, here's a reply addressing specifically this: >>20425987
With the full context for "hold onto this one" meaning "holding onto this advantage" [tl note: this advantage = the strait] in this statement:
>Besides that, you could argue this about any advantage. I want for /nasfaqg/ to hold onto this one because we were shafted when it comes to size and location (on the extremely far peripheries of the Holocontinent) before, so there's a limit on how much the thread can be pushed around.
>>20428869
We did get a Kronie schizo in the thread earlier, this is true.

Woa... So this is what a /vtwbg/ troll looks like... Naruhodo...

>>20428931
Should I take the good ol' /morig/pill and just ignore and not respond?

>>20428930
Then you shouldn't be against the strait then and stop playing the victim.

>>20428984
It's for the best.

>>20428930
Hardly fair to call him a schizo. All he did was offer to suck some dick and he got scared the moment an investigator showed up.

>>20429016
Forgive me deadbeat, for I will sin for the final time.
>20429003
Oh my fucking god, it's like talking to a wall. How many times have I said that I'm not against the straits, and neither are the two other /nasfaqg/ people? 3? 4? 5?

>>20428984
I think he demonstrated he's not arguing in good faith a good couple of posts ago.

>>20429027
Investigators truly are the apex sex predators...

>>20429080
>Now he refuses to quote correctly because he's realized he's clearly he's lost.
I accept your concession on this matter.

>>20429027
>an investigator
the investigator...

>>20429209
Italians truly are the apex sex predators...

Ok now I'm confused. What's nasfaq taking advantage again by going against the strait project? Except you know, being an actual trading nation. I'm seriously asking.

>>20429419
Nasfaq isn't, they've just been baited into giving (You)s to a schizo for like a dozen posts.

>>20429162
>>20429209
>>20429229
how does he do it? Everybody runs away when he shows up and offer to spend time with them

>>20429475
Not my finest moment, I agree. /nasfaqg/ is generally schizo-free, most people that the thread would call "schizos" aren't ones.

nasfaqg

>>20429590
mogu mogu

>>20429549

>Nasfaqg discusion loop
>Infinity gets called jew.
>Infinity gets called Nazi Germany.
>Infinity gets called Jew Nazi Germany.
>Infinity gets called for the Nasfaqg loop.
I'm sensing a pattern here.

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