/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This would have never happened under a corporation btw.

more like sarugay

>>20302002
>pop on rocks

>>20301899
there's so many artworks out there that how would you even know if something got traced off of something else, unless it was something well-known?

>>20302054
>literalwho having a meltdown because corporation didn't talk to him
How is this comparable to a vtuber being a bitch and other bitches crying about it

>>20302176
There's some obvious tells.
Its usually pointless mentioning it though since tracers are usually pretty low tier.

>>20301899
lmk when a good artist vtuber comes up with a contest

funny how her whole thing is being a cunt to people and they like it now some people lose a contest and everyone hates her for being a cunt

Can you please stop bullying Saurei? She's a really nice person.

>>20302360
Hey pal, you just missed Mori Jump King this past weekend.

>>20302397

stfu and go to this thread >>20289069

>>20302429

>>20302315
>There's some obvious tells.
well I just hope those are 100% infallible
would suck to be some clueless artist getting accused of tracing and being unpersoned

>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
There’s nothing wrong with her behavior here. She knows what she’s looking for and is being transparent about it.

>>20302465
What the fuck he was being nice the entire time.
This bitch doesn't deserve editors.

>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
Dude. She's interviewing to hire someone for a fucking job. She isn't doing a fan a favor.
Are you fucking 15 years old or something? Grow the fuck up and live int he real world.

>>20302508
Its not, but they didn't post a list of evil doers who traced, they told someone in private chat.
And being accused of tracing is not a death sentence for an artist, especially any that can easily prove they don't trace (by doing it on stream like the supposed victim did)

>>20301899
That person was partially disqualified for giving her "massive breasts" but they weren't big and she regularly retweets bigger tits. I don't get it.

>>20302583
>>20302601
>saucord running damage control

>>20302601
>interviewing for a job
>hey what programming languages do you know?
>well i really like C its my main bread and butter, but I've dabbled in java thanks to programming apps and -
>too long just list languages
literally never happens. the more you can bullshit about your passion the better in literally any interview ever. the only time someone wants to hire a drone is when they're hiring a slave to work a microwave at wendies.

>>20302396
I like her design and was kinda interested.
After seeing her colors I don't think I want anything that has her presence anymore.
Mori and Covid are cunts their own way, but if she was in a corpo she'd be flamed and fired. This smells like entitled, rich white cunt with literal mental problems.

>>20301899
>Virtual Tweeter

>>20302636
I don't even know who this bitch is.

>>20302601
>are you fucking 15
Lmao she definitely is
1 she's highly unprofessional, you can do things in a nice and orderly manner
And 2 stop being a fucking simp on 4chan holy shit

>>20302176
you can tell sometimes by the high detail on certain areas while others lack detail, a complicated pose but poorly done faces or hands, a huge jump in skill in some aspects but almost none in others (like if the hands are really good anatomy wise but there's no definition elsewhere). this guy probably didnt though and shes a total cuntdick regardless

basically, you can tell from the pixels

>>20302712
too bad shes 28

>>20302684
>what programming languages do you know?

>well let me go over my life's story

>>20302712
>i'm a very fragile person and if someone doesn't treat me like a 5 year old, I get very upset :((((

>>20301899
frogs are cunts what else is new
>>20302601
yeah that's absolutely how a real world job interview would go

>>20302465 these are pretty common requirements to edit for youtubers and she is a business women she dose not have time for hold someones hand

>>20301899
as much as i hate and despise fr*nch "people" i feel bad for this one because she didn't deserve it

>>20302760
>already 28 and can't handle her autistic behavior
Man, I wonder how she is in the real world if she's a bitch on the internet

>>20302603
>And being accused of tracing is not a death sentence for an artist, especially any that can easily prove they don't trace (by doing it on stream like the supposed victim did)
that's the problem though
the innocent person shouldn't be the one who has to prove that they're not guilty

>>20302796
You should hook up with someone from here nigger
She's basically a walking menhera

>>20302583
>>20302601
This was posted by people who absolutely have a job and aren't just schizophrenic gachis white knighting a bitch.

We don’t need another one of these threads

>>20302796
>well let me go over my life's story
yes.
I've been hired multiple times and have sat in on multiple interviews. nobody likes someone who only answers the question and only the questions because it comes off like they're just puking out a list they've memorized instead of something they care about. and people who just regurgitate without a passion are always terrible at the job.

>>20289069
the actual thread. you guys can go home now

Don't forget all the people coming out of the woodwork.

>>20302745
heh
alright, thanks for the explanation
speaking in general terms, I can just imagine how it would suck to be a guy who just specializes in faces or hands or feet and tries to have a go at drawing a full body scene and being accused of tracing just because the skill level of different body parts don't match

>Using ref to draw
>YOU TRACED!!!

little do these "honorable" artists know that the industry is filled with heavily ref'd drawings sometimes outright traced

Just a reminder: she won't fuck you.
I am aware she is a slut (self proclaimed). She will not fuck you.

>>20302883
Pretty much.
It's on the accuser to prove thei accusations, and only when they can't yet there's doubts, the accused must prove their innocence.
But guess miss Le Twitch Da Bitchi is beyond burden of proof.

>>20302684
This

>>20302883
>they shouldn't need to
too bad we live in reality where i can say literally anything i want.
Its obvious to anyone who cares that they don't trace so its a nothingburger that SHE HERSELF released the DMs about.

nobody's "lifes work" was at risk here.

>>20302312
It’s the same situation except that corpos didn’t reply to him and he kept seething alone. If Saruei’s mod didn’t the reason on the DQ and just ignored the whole thing it would be the exact same situation.

>>20302601
>She isn't doing a fan a favor
"I´m leaving the opportunity to my followers to work with me"

>>20301899
I hate her so much, she's fueling frenchphobia for the next ten years

>>20303076
>frenchphobia
>phobia
???

>>20289069
>>20289069
>>20289069

Who cares about fucking drama? I swear you fags latch on to anything and spam it for days then find something new to cry about

>>20303131
I'm going to destroy your face pansy Brighton boy

>>20303215
there are literally only 2 things to talk about on /vt/: drama and how cute your oshi is

>>20302701
Mori is just an autismo that thinks before she acts and Fulgur did literally nothing wrong.

>>20303054
>nobody's "lifes work" was at risk here.
99% yea sure, but since you mention reality, we're in one where HR people have thrown people's applications in the trash just because they did a surface level Google search and found someone with the same name did bad things, and didn't bother checking further

>>20303263
Yeah well fuck you
I want to cum all over Enna's cute toes while she pulls on my testicles with her other foot until a pussy opens up on the bottom of her sole so that she can insert my penis inside of her foot so that she can simultaneously pleasure me while she stomps on my balls.
I'll cum so hard inside her feet that it'll shoot up into her kneecaps and impregnate them.

>>20303426
Can I watch?

>>20302176
you generally can't tell since its a legitimate technique that advanced artists use to save time. if you grab 3 pictures and stitch them together and trace over it then maybe flip or horizontally no one will realistically know

usually tracers are only caught when they are extremely lazy and trace an entire body silhouette in a similar composition

>>20303426
That sounds disgusting. You're disgusting.

>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
Loser copy-pastes his resume, Stacey doesn't care, loser is crushed and leaks the discord logs for twitter sympathy. Who cares.

>>20302601
Your own post proves you're some loser that never worked or did something professional his whole life (no, flipping burgers like the loser you are doesn't count). Nice.

>>20303495
Most decent artists won't bother, photobashing is usually only done when its a full composition since figuring out perspective for an entire environment is just too much time for anything production ready. But photbashing still takes knowlodge of how it all works so you can piece it together without it looking like shit.

If you're just drawing a figure it takes more time googling for fitting images than it does just drawing the thing.

>>20302583
Did I see u in the discord, bro?

>>20302601
literally every real job will thank you for making the effort to apply and politely say thank you but you are not what they are looking for, she didnt have to go out of her way to fuck this guy off saying " wow you dont watch my stuff? eat shit i can easily find a rando editor on fiver"

>>20303426
Based

>>20303495
>if you grab 3 pictures and stitch them together and trace over it then maybe flip or horizontally
yea at that point I wouldn't call it tracing anymore because the "tracer" first had to work to find artworks that meshed together and make a new composition out of it.

>>20303495
Funny how real artist recommend to start with references and tracing from 3 different sources to start getting the hang of it.
I'm not an artist, but to me the only problem with tracing is to not disclose the original source. It's a big deal for artists I imagine, but just with that little thing I don't see a problem.
Then again, I'm a retard who can't draw circles, so what do I know.

>>20303672
No actually it's really common in entertainment to brutally shoot people down and no one would get away with whining about it if this was an actual entertainment industry instead of anime girls on the internet.

>>20303783
they recommend doing it to practice, not to join an art contest or doing commission work.

>>20303786
this, I'm sure Saruei herself dealt with that type of response a whole lot, as do most people that don't live in a twitter bubble.

>>20301899
she was a fun cunt, now shes just a cunt cunt

>>20303786
>entertainment industry
So, failed actor, now it makes sense.
How are the school loans going? You must be really shit to he treated as such in a pussified enviroment so I worry you might be homeless soon.

>>20303786
Entertainment is the most degenerate and worthless industry in the modern world. I don't think vtubing should aspire to such low standards.

>>20303874
>nooo i thought she was only acting!

>>20303786
>and no one would get away with whining about it if this was an actual entertainment industry
I feel like you haven't looked at the news in the past 20 years.

>>20303783
References aren't meant to be a 1:1 copy, its a general idea of how something works or looks.
A lot of things are hard to just conceptualize in your head so having an image to look at to give you the general idea of how it would work helps ease it. Then you modify it to fit the situation.

Like lighting for example. Shadows are a fucking mess to think about.

>>20302465
What a bitch. that dude dodged a bulled. She seems like the kind of boss that wouldn't read your mails and then complain when shit isn't done.
>>20302583
There's a lot wrong with her there. There's not even a spec of cordiality or professionalism from her, you're either a neet or have a shit boss.

>>20301899
>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
People who just think she's being an unrelenting cunt and call it a day are missing the bigger picture.
To demonstrate such a lack in interpersonal skills when the whole job thrives on the relationship they have with the community shows at best that she's a waste of time doomed to ruin her own brand and at worst a spiteful clique-enabler who will never respect the people that support her and drag down peers that associate with her. She can't even trust her mods to do decent PR reps.
Don't burn the creatives should be rule number one, especially when you're the one who fucking invited them in the first place.

>yfw be artist
>shitpost art
>liked to infinity
>spend time on the art
>2 likes

>>20303948
never said that my dude

>>20303591
sure, but patreon artists that pump out 3 paintings a week are probably doing some sort of tracing or template especially if their fundamentals are on the slightly weaker side and can't do dynamic foreshortening well.

the one time i visited /ic/ this poster got called out for copying another artist's composition and pose, and now hes making $5k a month on patreon. i doubt he's stopped "referencing" in order to up keep his productivity

>>20304013
>2like
heh
i get 5-6 consistently these days

Why are w*stern vtubers so full of petty twitter drama?

>>20303906
So you hate failed actors (I'm a landscaper) but you love failed artists who get shot down and then leak their business communications because they're buttmad about getting shot down?

>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
literal whore behavior

RED FLAGS FOR SALE! GET EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT!

>>20304045
there's only so many poses, but its more you can easily get in a groove with those
patreon artists usually aren't particularly standout. they make money but skillwise they're about average. you can find 100s of them at any anime con artist alley doing better work than what you see there.

I really don't think those are traced or referenced, its just rehashing the same poses over and over again that its just ingrained in your body. its actually a really hard habit to break because you just naturally gravitate to the 'standard' poses

>>20303874
And then she goes on Twitter and spergs about having no friends. Was wondering why she wasn't seem to be interacting with anyone other than Shylily and Froot, but now it makes sense.

>>20304097
Yeah, basically. You're worthless by virtue of posting here and so is the boss who didn't hire you by virtue of being someone 99.99999% of the planet doesn't know, but we get to watch a shitty vtuber burn up in flames by the entire community.

>>20304013
Shitpost often enough to get recognized
Start baiting people in with a low effort, but overarching narrative to your art (yuri baiting, comedy story, whatever)
Do something serious related to that shit you set up
Suddenly people give a shit because the contrast of your shitposts and your actual skill catch people off guard

saruei is a cunt and needs to get over herself

>>20304097
>contest DMs now count as business communications
lol

So being a bitch is unironically her selling point? I saw a clip where someone in chat asked her a question to set up a joke but she took it at face value and got all bitchy. Chat told her it was a joke and she 180ed instantly.

>>20304058
Nice! Keep it up

She needs rape correction

>>20302583
>>20302601
Topkek in what bizarro world does an interview go like this? Do you people get hired at dead end labor jobs with low pay that everyone hates or something?

>>20304370
to be 100% fair, which i shouldn't because she's both a french and a cunt which is the worst combination, vtubers tend to not like the whole
>say da funneh thing i pay u 5 rubles
bullshit. even korone hasn't done it in forever because it made her feel like a toy

>>20304370
She has terminal autism
That's why she doesn't get jokes and memes.

>>20304370
Her clips were great and funny and it's fun to be bitchy, but if your an actual bitch it's different
Now all her clips and videos just come off as someone who despises people

>>20304466
Its surreal desu.
My side family owns a restaurant and they're so desperate for half decent employees they'd jump hoops to hire people who even pretend to care.
My aunt was so excited because a recent hire knew how to was dishes without being told how.

That's literally all it fucking takes and the average employee can't do it.

>>20302796
>well let me go over my life's story
Nigger all he did was tell her his past expriences with video editing and what software he has experience/proficiency with.

>>20304370
She's a fun streamer, it's not a surprise she's successful.

>>20303948
well it's rather normal to think that if you only see that person on stream portraying herself as a virtual character. but when all this stuff adds up it starts to paint a clearer picture of reality

>>20303076
She is a fair rep for the average french woman.
>t.lived in france for 7 years

>>20302796
>what are behavioral questions

>>20303786
>Giving a fuck about the standards of an industry run by kid diddling kikes.

SHYGDDT.

>>20304684
>the toes are even the same
what the fuck

lol

>>20304684
You've gotta have a better res of that pic on the left, it's impossible to overlay and further throw her under the bus with the shit quality.

>>20303536
Bigger loser comes on 4chan to post about it.

>>20304069
thats just western entertainment in a nutshell

saruei and her discord simps white knighting and same fagged in other thread kek

>>20303426
aloupeeps continue to be the most based fanbase

Saru did nothing wrong desu

She was less of a bitch before she became a vtuber

Saru did everything wrong desu.

>>20304684
holy shit talk about hypocritical. that’s completely traced

>>20305064
She’s French and acted like a Frenchie. Being French is wrong.

>>20305042
They're going to come here in a couple of minutes once that one days. Worst part is they're not even good at derailing the thread, at this point they should just throw in the towel and spam guro or cunny since that's the only way they'll be able to damage control for the five minutes it takes until they get perma'd.

>>20302397
why do people post their discord drama here

>>20304684
Sarufrogs
This can't be happening...

>>20305079
Hi Darius

>>20304684
Other than the toes its not that bad, you guys are retarded.
The upper part is completely different, position of the lower guys arms are different. entire anatomy is better defined and toned.
Even the finger positions are different.
>but the feet
look at the soles, its not the same. the toes are flatter in the new image too.

get ready for the fake death threats boys

>>20304684
this bitch can’t be serious

>>20305205
i am le sorry but that is too much text i do not care

>>20305210
I'm going to break into her house and poop on her bed

>>20305162
Hi Saru

>>20305205
Was this not the exact same thing she said to that one shit artist whose work she declined?
>this one specific part of your artwork looks traced

>>20305205

>>20302002
vshitshow is just as bad lmao

Alright Frog, come out with your hands up! You will only be pardoned after 8 hours of doing Anon's sick, degenerate acts.

>>20305162
>>20305294
Now kith.

>>20304007
yeah and she wonders why she has no friends lmfao

>>20305335
i believe the problem with that was the sudden jump in quality in certain areas

>>20302429
>too much text
holy fucking based
I love this cunt

>calls everyone a snowflake, but has to redo her tweet so noone could reply to it
>forces all of the blame onto her trannymod while having years worth of history of being a massive cunt and forces to write a shitty apology because she can't form any sentence without his help at all
>paypigs will still eat it up

>>20305205
the upper part is her actual live2d model behind the legs which are a png you absolute retard

>>20302796
And that's how you go on getting a job but how would you know, you are just Saruei's mod.

>>20305493
I know, its just even more ironic that there's some shill here completely ignoring her own words when there's something with an actual semblance of proof rather than not understanding /k/fags can't draw women.

>>20305608
The rule for thee but not for me

>act like a bitch
>double down
>damage control
>block everyone
>I wish I had friends ;m;

>>20305205
The highs are completely traced and so are the toes. I'd argue even the right hand is traced but the fingers changed up a little. Considering the fact she draws for a living this is a complete trace with minor edits. Get out of her asshole and wake up.

LOOK AT HOW TERRIBLE YOU GUYS ARE!
JUST A BUNCH OF INCELS!
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR MYSE-I MEAN HER!

>>20305679
have you ever interacted with a woman before?

>>20305768
i unironically believe the
>telling her grandma to die over and over repeatedly
thing now

>>20305717
It’s obviously traced and she’s a hypocrite bitch.

>>20302023
Gottem

>>20305210
People who think vtubers fake death threats likely understimate the amount of death or rape threats the average woman let alone the average female streamer gets through the internet

>>20305841
nah i know that.
I mean this>>20305771
they took down the last thread

>>20305768
sounds about normal for a bitch who got cockblocked KEK

>>20305768
Source on this
That does sounds like her kek

>>20305717
>ghosting someone who caught influenza in a completely foreign country
bad form jk

>>20305768
>ghosting someone who caught influenza in a completely foreign country
bad form jk

>>20305768
context?? this sounds hilarious

>>20306029
>>20306077
I see Saruei is deleting her posts and reposting in this thread too

>>20306159
i did it just so i could get dubs

>>20305608
Do you mean this Tweet?
https://twitter.com/Saruei_/status/1503910238780596233?t=61gnwaTs1TeeM0pcu1DRaw&s=19

Someone in the other thread said it was her apology tweet, but it was gone before I could see it. Anyone grab a screenshot?

>>20305768
So saruei is a french KAngel?

>>20306214
She reposted it

>>20305841
Everyone on the internet who has ever been the focus of anything more than 5 people will have gotten death threats. It's only a death threat if its an actual threat, of which for 99% of these people it ain't.

>>20306214
It was the same one she reposted but without the comments off. She was getting ratio'd and didn't like it.

>>20306214
Same thing, just every reply was the cut of her saying "too long".

>>20305841
>Her Twitter dms were closed the whole time and there is no way to prove the Discord DMs as she will never show them
You caught the bait, congratulations

>>20302965
based as fuck.

>>20306214
The comments were so good, I hope someone took a screenshot

>>20302965
well, atleast she's based as fuck. Too bad she's such a cunt.

>>20306151
https://twitter.com/jdotkdot5/status/1425199631374372870
This is all I've found. Deleted tweets obviously.
Apparently, a group of artists went to Japan and she acted like a schizo.

>>20306349
>>20306293
Sounds hilarious. I hope at least one person somewhere managed to grab a screencap of it.

>>20302601
She's looking for a simp to do it for free or nearly for free, she's not looking for a skilled editor.
I would charge her extra because apparently obsessively watching her every day is a requires skillset and she'll have to pay for that. 15 bucks per hour of stream watched plus the usual charge for editing.

>>20305493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aenybcitkc&ab_channel=NinomaeIna%27nisCh.hololive-EN

ina would've been fucking disqualified because her background was too photorealistic and she traced off of 3D assets lmao

>>20306356
Glad someone was paying attention.
>>20306462
She also got exposed for fucking over other artists at the same time as that drama was going on. Seems to be a trend for her.

She thought guy was into her because he said she has green eyes or some shit lmao

>>20305841
That guy who sperged out on C* and got death threats was asked to provide proof or shut up. Saruei should provide proof that she’s getting these death threats or shut up. Seems fair.

>>20306462
lmfao I actually follow jkdot so knowing he had beef with her is funny as hell, thanks for the context

>>20306517
>she traced off of 3D assets lmao
Saruei would be shocked to learn that even big name anime studios like Kyoani and Ufotable trace backgrounds from real world photos they took while doing field research.

I will only accept naked dogeza

>>20306462
>>20306550
https://web.archive.org/web/20210813104520/https://twitter.com/jdotkdot5/status/1425204764716027908

>>20306517
For some reason no one cares about background tracing, this is extremely common and everyone does it to some degree.

I guess it's because the backgrounds aren't the focus of the piece.

So is anybody on her discord seeing the internal meltdown going on?

>>20306462
There's pictures of it in the archives of at least three threads both here and I believe /aco/'s /pmg/ but they have basically never cared for her so I'm not 100% sure. Just do archive reps and you can get the other ones but that first one is easily the most important one.

>>20306531
>She also got exposed for fucking over other artists at the same time as that drama was going on
You mean this? >>20303025

>>20306669
Ogey saru

>>20306674
Its either one of two things, and neither are entertaining.
>people leave en masse until it becomes a hugbox weeks/months later
>its shut down as rumors and anyone who mentions it gets banned immediately, losing only maybe 10% of ppl total

>>20306674
someone leak it

>>20306462
wait didn't 39daph talk about a "friend" that went to japan?
it would be amazing if anyone could find the clip of what she said.

>>20306674
The simps are seething

>>20306669
props like guns and other complex machinery are fine to be traced as well(the drama started cuz the artist's gun was too good). no one in their right fucking mind will sit there and painstakingly draw an existing IRL gun when theres are infinite resources that save your time 100 fold

>>20306517
>>20306641
>finally watch the video
Oh she's setting the 3d models up herself? This is fine, in fact I think Clip Studio Paint even lets you do it inside the program. The issue with tracing boils down to copying someone else's artwork without permission, be it a drawing or a photo.

>>20306888
>now

>>20306669
Backgrounds take for fucking ever and are less about skill and more about how much autism you want to expend to make everything work.

>>20306669
I always wondered how mangaka who have otherwise underwhelming art were able to have near perfect backgrounds

>>20306888
lmao, what a cuck also of course you'd know what a crusty unwashed sock was
this guy's jerked to Saruei for sure

>>20306674
The people who are bothered by it will leave and the people who simp for her will double down and harass anyone who tries to speak out against her. It’s basically what happened to the deadbeats on this board but on a larger scale. She’s too big to fail, and anyone who has proof of her being a shitheel will be too scared to share it.

>>20306674
They are going to blame 4chan like its some kind of coordinated attack on her given that on the last thread you could tell there were tourists from her discord trying to do damage control.

>>20307000
>They are going to blame 4chan like its some kind of coordinated attack
That's hilariously stupid seeing as it started on Twitter.

>>20306669
Yeah, nobody cares unless its a landscape picture or the background is the focus like any of the million wallpaper artists. But even then I don't think I've ever heard of someone caught tracing someone elses original background/landscape because there's literally no reason to. Just trace some random russian artists instagram anime girl drawings and you'll get off scott-free with a huge following to boot compared to tracing someones drawing of a fucking coastline or something.

>>20306876
It seems like 39daph has known about her since before she came out, so that "friend" could be her.
But who knows

since i can stay fairly anonymous wanted to say I planned to invite saruei to some group collabs in the future (if she wanted to of course, but I feel she would since I get 2-3k viewers on twitch). but after all those she's just negative attention and is on the bad side of some fairly popular indie vtubers.

she always complains she has no friends and turns around and does stuff like this.

>>20306690
Way back when the JK drama was happening she nitpicked about commissions she was getting from artists and bullying them into refunds.

I'm too lazy to get reps for this drama.
Give me a qrd who this person is and what drama could entice 70 anons.

>>20307105
Thanks froot

>>20306888
Gabrielle Kovalevsky will not fuck you dude

>>20307051
That’s how they’re gonna get twitter back on her side.

>>20307105
post feet

>>20307105
thanks froot

>Recently followed her on twitch, liked her and followed
>some bullshit drama shows up, apparently she's always a huge cunt
Man, this shit happens EVERY time. Last time I followed an indie was Kana, and if you know anything about her then yeah. I feel like I'm indirectly cursing these bitches with my lurking presence somehow.

>>20307161
I can fix her...

>>20307105
You're not really that anonymous Vienna, there's only like five non-3view non-vshojo /here/tubers.

>>20307161
Looks exactly what I thought she’d look like.

>>20307105
Froot is cyoot

>>20307105
Unfortunate, but give it a couple of weeks and no one will care. Look at alinity for example.

>>20307062
Well on the other hand I think its also that with humans you're expecting them to be doing things. So the expectation is you're drawing something contextual and new.
With landscapes it's basically observational drawing. People think landscape and think painter sitting on a hill drawing what he's sees, which is just tracing reality.

>>20307161
uhh,
she looks like a young crack addict i see at the soup house

>>20307105
Good for you. Don’t get used and abused out there.

>>20307241
The big vtubers like >>20307105 will not forget. VTubing is a small pond

>>20307105
Based froot

>>20307169
>artfags still jumping in
>mod called someone a retard
Good luck with that.

>>20307105
i dont know why everyone says your froot but if you are can you please ship my patch already i've been waiting for 4 years

>>20305768
too much text sorry i don't care

>>20307105
Hi Aethel, see you made it out of /vsj+/ for a change.

>>20307224
They already had a collab together though, with Bao and Bunny

>>20306908
the artist got accused of tracing because the gun was too well drawn. pro artists buy generic 3D assets to edit and paint over all the time or even have them be provided by the company they are working for, hell you can hop on pixel squid and choose 1 out of 100 gun images at any angle you want to trace or copy or photobash.

>>20307312
They will, don't worry. Twitter forgets eventually, they got newer, fresher drama to be angry about. Alinity had normie websites all over her ass and she's still around doing better than ever.

>>20307380
>aethel
>2-3k viewers
C'mon now.

>>20302397
>>20302429
>>20302465
This is based though. Why do you think everyone needs to be a fake ass cotton candy bitch? She's honest and calls people retarded.

>>20307421
yeah appleman still has work to do if he wants to get there

>>20307105
Can't believe Annoying orange is here, she will never be welcomed back into the industry

>>20307391
To be fair there's a lotta vtubers who have collabs with people before drama hits mainstream like arcadum

No wonder why Kiara is alone in Europe, it's either collab at awful hours or get into these kind of indies in Europe lmao

>>20307488
It's only based if she's not retarded, and since she's retarded its cringe. C'mon now, you've clearly been posting on this website for years and years, surely you know this by now?
Unless you actually think Moot is based just for drinking with the two kings of japan and ignoring all of his other faggotry?

>>20307157
>bitch is a bitch
>hold a contest for 5 thousands bucks
>mod(+Her) accuses some contest artists of tracing
>artists cry on twitter because bitch is bitch
>mob has formed
>anons see a chance to shit on the frog for fun

>>20307488
>Why do you think everyone needs to be a fake ass cotton candy bitch?
lmao, I hope you're not implying that's not how she is most of the time
You're not based if you backpedal hard
You're not based if you play the victim over mean DMs

>>20307488
There's a difference between being straight forward and blunt, and being an unreasonable cunt.
She doesn't need to suck his dick, but she doesn't need to go out of her way to demean him either.

>>20306888
This mother fucker is talking shit about us.

>>20307603
>moot
Numoot, point still stands.

>>20307421
I mean his last 4 streams have all been over 2k CCV and he's a known lurker. I was just taking a shot in the dark there.

>>20307488
>ranting in your circlejerk Discord
>based

>>20307105
Post feet or gtfo

>>20307488
>call someone a faggot
>based
>people turn on you
>you start crying and shidding and farding screaming NO IM NOT A BAD PERSON
>not based

>>20307640
its interesting that even from the start shes been a massive bitch, with the whole avatar drama.
so the bar was set pretty low already, but I mean, A bitch will be a bitch

>>20307640
>There's a difference between being straight forward and blunt, and being an unreasonable cunt.
That other anon is retarded anyway. Blunt people usually don't call themselves "blunt" as she did. The only people doing that are the cunts trying to hide their cuntiness behind the fake excuse that they're just blunt.

>>20307211
Stop following cunts and get some better taste, anon. Or maybe become gay and embrace the beauty of the cock.

>>20307488
Yeah its pretty based, look at the amount of based good press she is getting through twitter lmao

>>20307105
Good job. Rather learn and choose only people who don't act like fake, clout-chasing bitches.

>>20305768
What happend next?? PLEASE

By reading the discord messages with the editor post it sound like her

>>20307105
I personally wouldn't completely blacklist her or anything, there's always a potentiality that someone whose only major fault is they have a bad attitude will eventually realize they're being a dumbass and improve, but until then I'd at the very least keep her at a distance.
Post your feet please.

>>20307618
>Artist also been streaming her art progess from the scratch live on twitch, and instead of just admitting they didn't like their artwork they decided to scream TRACED
>Saruei already had terrible reputation before becoming a vtuber, thinking tyrning into one would fix everything
Kekkity.

>>20307488
>She's honest and calls people retarded.
Pot, kettle...

>>20307903
You're posting this to a western vtuber, who will hold people to shit for literal years and years. Nyanners is the only exception and even then that's a stretch because her collabs with people are pretty limited so far.

if someone wants to make a cleaner version feel free. saruei has traced official hololive work and sold it for profit on her patreon. I'm pretty sure I can find more instances where she traced, but give me some time

>>20305768
Searching for this led me to find things I didn't want to find out.
Holy shit she has shit taste on men.
Not like she's in the position to choose but holy shit.

>>20304013
Start some shit like popopoka and suffer from success.

>>20307778
Avatar drama?

Ahhh what a good day today! If someone has more screenshots of shit that she has done please share! Im planning on making something (video, collage or whatever) so everyone can know what a piece of shit she is for future references.

>>20307965
Nyanners is an exception because she is as the kids say, extremely based and redpilled.

>>20307804
>AND become gay
fixed

>>20307976
You really, really need to learn how to use the transparency tool.

>>20308009
All I'm learning from this is that she needs people around her who will be a positive influence and that I can fix her.

>>20307903
I am sorry anon, but she always was a bitch. It's that one rare case when a person is born a bitch. They don't change.

>>20308047
Nux….

>>20308082
im not spending more then 1 min on this shit. like I said feel free to make a cleaner version

>>20308047
work for your own fucking clout instead of begging people for it, kotaku

>>20303062
> “if the circumstances were similar, they’d be similar!”

Wow, you’re so right, anon!

>>20307976
Saruei is herself a tracer. The irony.

>>20308097
Nah bro, from what I've seen, she's a lost cause.

>>20307976
Holy shit

>>20305350
he said corporation anon, not a proxy merch seller vshojo is

>>20308233
BPD is curable, I can fix her.

>>20307488
Fine line between professionalism and being fake. Don't shit on the contestants or willing applicants to your job unprovoked, that's common sense, how you treat people matters if you're a public entity. Want to know what happens if you don't? Bear witness to this shitstorm.

>>20308147
Lol Nux and Kotaku are my bitches they are sucking my big salty balls right now faggot.

>>20308206
>>20308294
>>20307976
Another example of the constant accuser actually projecting their own shit onto everyone else

>>20308363
Narukami…. I kneel

>>20308328
>He doesn't know her 5years worth of beefs and drama in art communities

>>20307618
>>20307915
thanks

>>20308437
I CAN DO IT

IM GONNA SAAAAAAAAAAVE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20308328
>>20308560
>anons living in the GARcher timeline and all i can do is stand by and watch

>>20307915
Kind of ties into the bitch is bitch yeah, but supporting information is good too

>>20308560
You can't save her, you can't compete with thousands of simps gassing her mid ass daily.

>>20303062
Not comparable. One is someone making claims someone did something and the other is someone breaking explicit written rules and knowing they did and trying to talk to the corpo why he was doing nothing wrong despite clear evidence daying otherwise.

holy shit, and this is who calli hired to make her daki cover?

>>20308924
makes sense

>>20308863
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'M GONNA SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE

>>20308560
KEK,

SARUEI

TRACE ON!!!

>>20307105
But froot, you also don't have a friends because you're a snake, shouldn't you two get along nicely?

>>20308924
Calli will probably get closer to her if this board starts hating her. You know why, classic petty female behaviour. Screenshot this, collab soon.

>>20305768
And she wonders why she doesn't have friends
lol

Oh the Projection.

Saruei and her slaves having a baaaaaaaad time! Yes and theres more to come fuckers!!!

>>20309286
Don't get too cozy you fucker, /vt/ isn't your personal army.

>>20303426
Enna’s design is a chaotic disaster but i look at it and still like it, what is this sorcery?

>>20309313
>>20309356
Post moar

>>20309313
the fuck is /dab/

>>20309445
it's because she's cute, sometimes cuteness mitigates the sensory overload.

>>20309445
No idea but I too want her to pee on my face and crush my balls.

>>20308103
I don't know, she did seem to be getting better after being a vtuber for a while even if she did still occasionally relapse into being a dumbass again. Not 100% wholesome Keanu Reeves nice, but still. She'll always be a bitch but that doesn't mean she can't ever accept responsibility for her actions and at least try to be better. I'd hate to have to completely write someone off because occasionally they're really bad when they can also be great fun to be around, it just feels like this whole thing is entirely preventable.

>>20309535
Context, someone tried to warn saruei about Darius' behavior to the art contestants on twitter literally last night and she replied with this tweet. 24 hours later it makes her look way worse

>>20309828
There's a quite easy solution and it's "tell darius to fuck off and distance yourself from him" but for some reason she's stuck to the guy like glue. Anything to try and explain it would be 100% speculation so I won't bother rrating but whatever it is that keeps her so close to him isn't great since he's the source of a lot of her problems.

>>20309535
>>20309862
Beat me to it, the /dab/ is just some *action* shit
http://web.archive.org/web/20220314230854/https://twitter.com/Saruei_/status/1503508407860477967

>>20309862
Isn't that bitch almost 30? Who the fuck still acts like that at this age?

>>20309828
Anon, do you know what honeymoon phase is? I've known her before she was a vtuber and watched her become a self-posting retard, she never learns and she will never learn. Some people are just shit. Get over it.

>>20309929
Manheras, that's who.
They never outgrow drama, they bring it everywhere even if they're in their 60s

>>20309828
No, she was getting better at having a public face thats marketable. Don't ever believe for a second the vtubers you see are the real unfiltered roommates.

That is the biggest possible mistake you could make, so don't, you fucking retard.

>>20309828
Women honestly shouldn't be let outside until they learn to control there blood moon rage

>>20310063
If there's one thing Saruei doesn't have, it's a filter

>>20309929
Getting there, 4/18/93

>Crazy bitches be crazy
You love to see it. Wish it happened live on stream though, Twitter meltdown aren't as fun as Twitch breakdowns.

>>20310063
Someone make a saruei edit

>>20310063
Not that anon but she really was getting better. She repaired some long-burned bridges with some other vtubers like Anny and DyaRikku + Vyugen, but those have been re-burned over the last day lol.

>>20309445
Cute upper teeth, and her dead-eyed UGUU~ stare gets me, plus her nasally kid-sounding voice.

Now that flamenco faggot is white knighting her and the trannie mod live on stream. I swear that faggot just sees Twitter and /vt/ is mad and bases his entire take on doing the opposite of that.

funny to think she wouldn't be in this situation if she just posted she was getting rid of darius. thanks for entertaining me for the night darius. it was a boring tuesday

I couldn't give a shit on what's going on with this bitch. Everything about her makes my cock fucking diamonds I think I'm going to make it my life's goal to marry a french girl.

>>20310252
Only good post in this thread

>>20310063
All female v-tubers are e-girls, they just lack the self esteem and confidence to sell feet pics and do hot tubs streams so they put on an anime avatar to milk attention and money.
This is the ultimate truth.

>>20309484

Not gonna lie, I would fix her

>>20310252
unironically based, i'll cum to all the hatefuck commissions she's going to get just like sio

>>20309206
>I was being stupid, I'm sorry
>he gives her a crumb of pity and his own apology
>Well, actually now that you mention it, this was mostly your fault anyway and I was crying at home all alone because of you!

FUCK YOU SARUEIIII

>>20309922
The problem is twitter will not settle for anything less than her giving 5k to every contestant in the contest now. The longer this drags out the worse the demands will be until those drama bubble pops and another forms.

>>20309445
Cause most of the time she toggle off the extra parts, so when you see the chaotic full thing your mind still remember picrel

>>20310318
The final red pill is that babiniku, men, and trannies are the only good English indie vtubers, and you still need to deal with 90% of them being irredeemable trash.

If it’s not a Japanese corporation, then it’s probably shit. Westerners are too unhinged

>>20310252
>>20310318
She saw Ramona Flowers and felt so empowered

Artists are entitled fucks. Always complaining about something.

My friend is a Sarueifag and dismisses all of her drama as "don't care, she's hot"

Bitch can get away with murder if she talks in that stupid accent with these simps.

>>20310210
She literally did this only because she was reading 4chan threads 24/7, you retard. She's been trying to push to be "the based vtuber" image on twitter from the debut because she kept self posting and making her mods shill her. How fucking new?

>>20310603
She's so cringe

>>20310587
The issue is that when men go full manhera they truly go nuclear and get 100% cancelled.

This is why i hate white-tubers, so sense of decency

>>20310694
If that was the case why did she do it 7 months after debut and not immediately. I don't like her either but the facts make her look bad enough no need to engage in rrats

>>20310318
Someone post that Hana image

I can fix her.

>>20310603
Don't care I'm gonna paint her womb white.

>>20310670
Based, I bet he doesn't give a shit about twitter faggotry either. Because only faggots use twitter for anything other than following porn artists.

>>20309206
Classic manipulation tactics

>>20310210
>She repaired some long-burned bridges
no, she pretended like she did which was in reality just all of them going "alright fine we won't shit on or vomit at the sound of eachothers names anymore", heres a link of all of their twitters and the word saruei and apologies its long as fuck
https://twitter.com/search?q=saruei%20(from%3Ayoclesh%20OR%20from%3Asquchan%20OR%20from%3Ayenkoes%20OR%20from%3Ayuniiho%20OR%20from%3Adyarikku)&src=typed_query&f=live

5k followers gone and still going

The crazier a girl acts the harder I feel the urge to stick my dick in her.
Please help me.

>>20308047
Turkey Tom?

>>20310318
The gospel truth

>>20311062
There's no way we can help you, you're already unable to stick it into any woman to begin with. I know because I'm the same.

>>20311030
She blocked at least 4k of them herself.

>>20311030
Twitch followers or Twitter followers?
If it's Twitch followers I doubt her numbers will change much, they're probably twitter users that don't even watch Twitch anyways.
We'll see over the next couple streams but I feel nothing much will change.

>>20311062
crazy in the head
crazy in the bed

>>20308328
>BPD is curable
Anon, that's hell you're walking into.

>>20310480
This, what a horrible person

>>20301899
ALWAYS REMEMBER:
>Photoshop watermarks out of images before reposting
>Feel free to edit, trace, and redistribute any works
>Never attribute the original artist. If someone cares so much, they can find it themselves

>>20309313
I gave a chance to someone that all his friends left her, she was a shitty friend.

>>20310967
Why don’t these people just post their twittlongers and be done with her ass. She’s obviously a very toxic person with a long list of enemies. Is it because she’s a woman that she doesn’t get cancelled? Is she too big to fail?

>>20311363
They're just making shit up and talking out of their ass anon, happens every time when someone gets cancelled.

>>20311363
Women never get cancelled unless they're overtly transphobic.
Unless someone got her on record shitting on trannies nothing much will happen. There's confirmed female kiddy diddlers on Twitter that couldn't be cancelled because they are women.

>Yeah people i apologized, let's just move on
Too much cock in the ass to handle faggot? Now making amends when you fucked up so hard?
Pfff...kys already subhuman

>>20311030
Only about 2% of her total follower count

>>20310778
/Lig/ started milking and spectaculating the Anny saruei beef and two threads later saruei comes with her "sub donation" just for Anny to react weirdly to it. Both Saruei and Anny are toxic bitches on their own, one is crazy, older and ten times more childish, the other is a mean girl type menhera that would quietly talk shit about you to others.

>>20311522
>Women never get cancelled
>Awkwafina

>>20304684
Do people really think using a reference is the same thing as tracing?

>>20304589
any hot sisters that work at the restaurant anon? im looking for a job

>>20311605
shh this is a saruei schizo thread

>>20311539

>>20311590
Ah, how could I forget offending white people on Twitter that get offended on behalf of black people.
I'm sorry, females only get cancelled for being transphobic or offending white people that feel offended on behalf of black people. Or racism, of course.
Those are the only two silver bullets that can cancel a woman.

>>20311539
>Guys, words harm others too!! But only when it's about me and my vchuuba.
Stfu Darius, you were rude, talking shit to and about others in your tiny circlejerk ever since you got the taste of money. And now all of the sudden, you are going to turn into a little fluffy mod?

>>20304058
>>20304242
Basically this. ButtonIris/Tsunderemaids/Lovesick1964/Whatever new name she’ll have in a few months did a ton of shitposting/depressionposting art, and then did really good art every once in a while and now she’s had a ton of respect and visibility and is even a founding member of her own art freelancing/streaming crew

>>20307976
Oh fugg

>>20302465
A bit rude yes. But she is in the right. Dude should read the requirements.

>>20311605

>Nene traces art
>Oh, she is too dumb to know better
>She is a saint
>She dindu nuffin
>Some bitch from twitch uses traced art
>EVIL BITCH, DIE
Lol.

>>20311539
talk shit get hit faggot mod.

>>20311806

I love me sum girls that are funny in the head

>>20311864

>>20311806
>Look
>As she posts the same one (1) and only traced proof of someone's artwork which she posted on twitter a month ago
Ogey.
Also, it's interesting how right when the drama started they deleted the contest document when people wanted to look at terms.

I wish /vt/ banned anyone posting any twitter shit that isn't from an official Vtuber/Vtuber company. Should cut down on the relentless circlejerk of drama.

>>20311857
t.Darius

>>20311857
The difference is people actually like Nene

>>20311857
>Some bitch from twitch uses traced art
anon-chama, your reading comp reps....

>>20309147
send these screenshots to cover and warn them she is a timebomb like Mizuryu kei

>>20311857
Worse than tracing art, Cover sold her traced art, and is still selling to this day after saying they were going to remove it, this retard can eat a dick >>20307976

>>20311965
When a big part of their defense claim is that they were upfront about this stuff in the contest terms it would help if we had the terms themselves to look at. No?

>>20311920
Fucking gold coming from the bitch who traces herself

>>20311363
No, it's because western vtubers are even bigger pussies than japanese ones.

>>20312048
Anonchama, this art was just a part of her thank you letter after buying her merch. Meds

>>20311920
That's not tracing, what the hell is she smoking.

>>20311920
I don't think this would hold up in court. This is fair use.

>>20312048
>Cover sold her traced art
Are you two being silly on purpose

It feels like there's a new western vtuber drama every day

>>20302796
literally nothing he did was his life story. it was all pertaining to his work experience. jesus christ nigger you're either a bad troll or a massive cuck

>>20311920
I don’t see how this is any different from what Saruei herself has done before and what I’ve seen from other twitch artists.

>>20312169
>>20312102
Nene traced Namori's art, her bdays's merch and orisongs were are all sold on amazon, the official store and etc.

I'm not gonna lie
She might be a huge cunt, and mentally ill, but that would not stopping me from pounding that pussy with such force that the country of France cedes to my pure military might

>>20312236
So you'll put it in limp?

>>20312236
I thought this too until I saw her ex. Now I wouldn't touch that pussy with a stick.

this cancelling is weak
she'll be back in no time
reminder to never use discord

>>20311864
i just dont get how you can take time to discard an entry, but not have time to say why?

>>20312326
She'll be back, but she's fucked with Vshojo and indies so she'll basically have no chance for growth through collabs anymore.

>>20311920
That is quite flagrant, but I don't think the gun one was that bad

>>20311539
Oh no no no PLEASE MOVE ON I BEG YOU
G-GROW UP!

>>20310318
not all of them
some of them simply use an avatar because their actual selves aren't that good to look at

Why are there so many trannies in her community?

>>20312326
>she'll be back in no time
Each fuck up makes her more butthurt and each time she lashes out it's worse. Tick tock.

>>20312429
>IMMEDIATELY lashing out again
please nobody tell him to stop, its hilarious

>>20303786
it's really common in entertainment to brutally rape children too

>>20312486
artfags

>>20312486
They're everywhere anon

>>20311800
If she was looking for people who were massive fans then she could have asked for that. She only asked for people with experience, even her google form doesn't mention being a fan. So it wasn't a requirement it was a last minute curveball.
But importantly she didn't say that you had to have been a fan already, just that you have to watch the stream daily. The only reason someone sees that and doesn't bail is because it reads like part of the job. She never mentioned it being restricted to fans publicly, it was an open position. If she only wanted it to be within her community then she would have said so literally anywhere but in a 1 on 1 dm to some rando.

>>20312048
>>20312237

Anonchama, Nanamori retweeted the traced art months ago. They already knew about the art even if they didn't give explicit permission then. Nene is an art beginner who inadvertently went over the line. They have given permission now for it to continue being sold. Perks of the artists being a friend and fan.

>>20312498
>Tick tock.
Lol. This is all just part of the Saruei experience.
Shitposting about someone you don't watch doesn't really hit right.

>>20304589
I can't blame them. Who wants to waste their lives slaving away, making money for bossman.

>>20312429
Got those twitter fingers revved up and ready to go!

>>20304702
What do you mean?