/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>indie vtubers are chill and drama-free, bro

So I was on my couch right, sitting there and firing up my Switch to play Pokemon. I'm minding my own business, running through an area, when I stumble upon a Ralts. Now, I haven't caught any before, so I figured this would be a good opportunity to start getting some of it's pokedex logs done. I go up to this Ralts, not bothering to sneak as I have a pretty good ball I think will do the trick regardless of stealth, and try my hand at catching it. Sure enough, the ball I was using worked fine and I caught my first Ralts in Legends Arceus. Pretty sweet, since Gardevoir is one of the cooler Sinnoh Pokemon, in my opinion. This Ralts' moves aren't anything to write home about, but it does have a cool ability. It's the one that let's it copy another Pokemon's ability in battle. I was pretty satisfied with it, and I was about to start running around the area I was in again to see what other stuff I could find. All of a sudden, one of my windows basically explodes inward into my living room. The weight of whatever came crashing through my apartment hit me like a truck, knocking me off my couch and pinning me to the floor. My adrenaline surges as I try to breath, my lungs not cooperating. I look up, and staring down at me, knife in hand and poised to strike, is none other than the one-woman death squad cyborg herself, Saruei. Her eyes were sharper than her dagger. She shouted random surnames at me like 'Putin' and 'Dumas'. I couldn't make heads nor tails of it, and I thought I was about to meet my end. She brings her blade in close, but instead of slashing my neck she draws a shallow cut along my cheek. Before long, my struggling stops as I'm unable to move. My would-be assassin gets off from on top of me, turning toward my Switch controller that was knocked across the floor. She grabs it, quickly opening the menus in-game and finding my Pokemon storage. She wastes no time in releasing that Ralts I had just caught. And then? She just leaves. Hops back out the window and scales up my building. I spend 2 hours there on my floor, unmoving in a cold sweat, before it dawns on me. That Ralts' ability? Trace

>>20282739
>Dont claim an art connect is free arts
>Sarurei never has and never will participate in an arts contest.
Interesting

what were the terms

I was wondering if someone would make a thread about this.
Shits funny as fuck to me. Going from
>Waaaahhhh nobody will be my friend
To
>I will now proceed to defend my moderator claiming your art is traced even if you live streamed yourself drawing it for 10 hours

Funny shit honestly

Man, all she does is bitch about art shit when she isn't being mopey. And always indirectly.

>>20282979
Nobody really seems to know outside of "it has to be your own"

>>20282739
Literally who the fuck is this

>>20283030
>Yeah my mod is being direct and friendly
What a fucking faggot

>>20282739
Not everyone is going to win, so the losers are doing art for free. EVtubers are something else, surely her fanbase are that dumb to let that comment slide.

>>20283132
disqualified because boob too big

>>20283132
The mod was being direct but I still see no proof of that being a traced artwork, it's not the best sure, but seeing as she claimed "the mod said it was traced" you'd think she'd be able to provide the source the dude traced it from but surprisingly when people have asked her to do so she's resorted to blocking them.

>>20282739
>Art contest
>Not a scam
lmao
Anyone knows very well how those work, you sign that your art now belong to them regardless if you win or lose, they get a lot of art and then pay only for one

Op doesn't want to post the piece because it will the conversation

>DISQUALIFIED FOR BIG BOOBAH
>that banner
>blocking everyone calling her out
Can the frog fuck off already?

>>20282739
Its incredible how much western entertainers will openly shit on their audience

>>20283283
>the piece
It wasn't just one artist though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Saruei_/status/1503790406164692992
https://mobile.twitter.com/KarooTuber/status/1503711272474451969

she's french please understand

>>20283334
>It wasn't just one artist though.
Yeah it seems like a lot of artists got randomly disqualified and when they asked why, they either got no response or a bitchy one from a mod who basically said "I don't like how you draw" and then got blocked when they said how that made them feel

>>20283296
The cuck audience keeps paying. There’s no incentive to behave.

Side note, those of us over at /lig/ also noticed DyaRikku, one of the biggest artists it the Twitch Vtuber community and Vtuber Mama to a lot of big names over twitchside, got blocked for calling Saruei out over her behavior. The Frog is having a fucking meltdown. >>20282570

>>20282739
Stop bullying her, that accent is pure sex

>>20282739
>french girl
>drama
Hah! Imbéciles.

>>20283359
Wow. What a bitch.

Artist + mental illness, name a more iconic duo

>>20282979
terms were give her free art, and then she gives her friends 5k. Ask about anything and you get blocked on twitter.

I hope she continues digging a grave for herself. I am tired of people shilling her just because she has an accent and shows feet.

>>20282739
Saruei that's why no one wants to be your friends...stop having a new complaint every week...

this seriously needs a cancellation and a correction

>>20283495
French + shooting yourself in the foot

She heard the call from heaven it's daijoubou desu ne

lmao

>>20282739
Can these dramafags vTweeters stfu for one day? They conjure drama out of thin air just for that sweet juicy Twitter engagement.

>>20283574
I agree - that cunt continues to do this shit while getting bigger. At some point it has to stop

>>20282739
I've seen some of her vods, you don't really need a twitter drama to be able to tell she's an absolute cunt that treats people like shit desu.

>>20283418
Holy shit. I had no idea who this dyarikku person was but they're apparently pretty big in the vtubing community. I see a lot of the people I follow supporting and liking their tweet.

Also
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1503801579220181002

>>20282739
What the fuck is wrong with that woman? Why is she always creating stupid and weird drama out of absolutely nowhere?

>>20283424
>Stop bullying her
no one's bullying her she's bullying other people if anything

>>20283359
>draw garbage
>cry because your shit art didn't get you exposure in a vtuber's stream
lmao

>>20283700
She needs a manager and a boyfriend. I volunteer for both.

>>20283700
she's French

>>20282739
art whores are such fucking losers. i mean honestly. you hear "oh this vtuber started as an artist" and you think "huh nice that's cool they should be fun to watch" then you realize that they're an artist and that means they're insanely catty, they spent most of their formative years getting into feuds on tumblr and then twitter, they've been conditioned into seeing anyone else who so much as downloads photoshop as either an enemy or someone they can exploit to expand their own personal brand, and they're incapable of escaping from this mindset of social warfare and forming real interpersonal relationships.

>>20283682
DyaRikku is arguably the biggest Vtuber artist on twitch outside of froot and she does Vtuber model commissions for exclusively the top crust of Twitch Vtubers, including Vshojo. Her company Vyugen (which she founded) is closely tied with Merryweather, Bahroo, and Vshojo. Saruei decided to block her over mild criticism. This is potentially social suicide.

>>20283594
>cries about not having vtuber friends
>blocks Dya
is she retarded

As far as I can see, we can play RTA block lmao

>>20283785
Huh. Neat. I'll give them a follow, I love seeing art vtuber art especially

How do you guys feel about vtubers having a dedicated tag for free thumbnails?

nothingburger but fuck nippleEN

>>20283584
>>20283594
>>20283682
Lmaoooo holy shit this is gold.
>wahhhhh why does no one like me i want friends ;_;
>haha fuck you i do what i want dab on the haters
>yeah my mod was right i would have said the same thing fuck you crybabies hahaha
>w-wait why are my peers ganging up on me too...?
>b-but they're also artists...
>muh proffesional critiques...
>i-i'm not cruel i'm sorry i'll learn i promise!

I felt bad when that sobbing tweet came out about not making any friends but yeah. You reap what you sow, bitch.

>>20283682
Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are?

>>20283896
Dya is a good entertainer and very talented.

>>20283769
Thanks for putting it into words

>>20282842
This is a weird one for me. Indies and small corpos have infinitely more drama going on than anything you find in the bigger groups. It's why I always find it funny when I see a million holo or niji threads about irrelevant petty shit when there's juicy drama all over the place for them if they cared to look at these 2views.

>>20283833
unironically watch a single clip and i can already smell how stinky the personality is.

>>20283940
Yeah that's what I was thinking. You are the company you keep, she and her main mod there seem like two peas in a pod.

Reminder that Saruei used her stream to talk shit about her friends when she was visiting Japan with them. She went full martyr and how her friends were ganging up on her and she didn't do anything wrong. Of course she enjoyed hanging out in her discords voice channel with her mods and getting praised by them constantly.

werewolfjones.jpg

That's it. I'm turning on the machine.

>>20283940
anon... saruei has no friends...

>>20283833
Well there is a reason why she doesn't have any friends.

>>20283940
I'm not friends with any vtuber. I just follow a lot of artists who follow Dyarikku

>this many schizos seething over someone who doesn't even know they exist
it seems to me that the french lady is doing something right

I wish there were actually famous French vtubers other than her. I haven't done my French reps in fucking forever and having someone to listen to in that language would be nice

Reminder this is the same Mod of Saruei's that got banned for Sexual harassment reports but she got him unbanned by telling her twitch rep it was a bullshit claims. She even ranted about it on stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygYA3_UZbuY

She's 100% fucking this guy

>>20284075
>backpedaling on twitter to said nobodies while crying about having no true friends
lol, she clearly isn't

>>20283986
to be fair, big corpos compensate by blowing small drama massively out of proportion.

>>20284088
>Bitch has a worse accent than me
Holy shit why am i even trying to better my english pronounciation

wtf saruei is based???

>>20282739
she is based

>>20284075
>Waaaaa please be my friends
What shes doing right its making her own grave Sarueicocksucker lol

>>20284162
No they don't, retards on here blow it out of proportion and twist literally nothing into making you think it's the worst shit that ever happened

>>20284182
>>20284221
Kek

>>20282739
>Surpised that the contest is fake
>Suprised that the mods are Gay
Thus fake and gay

>>20284088
French accents are so fucking funny they always sound like cartoon characters.

>>20284268
that's what i said lol

>>20284088
>She's 100% fucking this guy
1000%

>>20284075
t. Saruei

>>20284327
Learn english then, that's not what your sentence said at all

I don't even care for any of this but seeing a train wreck is always intriguing.

>>20284171
because you're not a cute girl

>>20284333
lmao these people never learned courtesy, just fucking try these in personal and quickly get kick out in some company

>drama
>Saruei is a part of it
>automatically side against her
>haven't been wrong so far

>>20284254
I see that Froot had to join the drama...
Jesus, why cannot She just sit down and not go to where is fire...

>willingly enter contest knowing you're not likely to win
>have a bitch fit because you get disqualified or rejected for any reason
I hate my generation

>Known schizo French whore acts like one
>Pretend to be surprised
>?????
>You are here

>>20284446
Even here in France we have a saying which roughly translates to: "French people are always rude and complaining about everything"

>>20284553
See >>20283769

>>20282739
remember this is far from the first time she's had problems with artists, she's a huge cunt.

>>20284504
>siding with froot on any issue
I think i'll be taking the Third Position on this one chief.

>>20283359
>is followed by Mori and her roommate
I’m not surprised

>>20283769
What are you talking about? the Vyugen girls are all very chill. Sounds like you found 1 person that meets thiese criteria and you are projecting it on all artist VTubers.

>your art got rejected
>wow how could you? why?
>explain why
>WOW THAT'S SO RUDE
artshitter community is a fucking softie circlejerk that can't take even basic criticism

>>20284564
>willingly defend your mod with a history of getting themselves into trouble and damaging your reputation by proxy
>throw a bitchfit, backpedal despite your still visible past tweets proving you're lying, and make him kneel despite him having done the same, then cancel a scheduled stream
lol, artists.

How based can one man be

>>20284564
>get rejected
>ask why
>person goes full autist and burns the entire city down instead of telling you why and giving proofs

>>20284812
Of course he draws shit

>>20284766
Ironic because Saruei's the one having a block meltdown while the losers are shrugging.

>My mods and myself we respect our viewers!
KEK

>>20284766
Who are you quoting?

>>20284861
Hey this guy was an actual schizo this is why Twitter is bullshit

>>20284564
>have a contest
>mod does something
>people get mad
>defend them
>this, surprisingly, does not help
>have a social media shitfit

>discord mods
subhuman

>>20284766
>accuse someone for tracing
>provide zero proofs
lol

>>20282902
Stopped reading when you said the Ralts had an ability in Legends Arceus.

>>20283785
I would favor Saruei for her being put on blast by a huge name over some petty artist cry-cry. But then again Saruei blocked her like a little kid, made a contest with no communication and no organization whatsoever and had some mod running his mouth too much.
Fuck all these drama addicts.

This is the kind of drama I can appreciate. Just some dumb fuck saying some dumb shit doubling down on it and getting shit on.

artwork in question...

The more I see from Saruei the more I start to believe she was entirely in the wrong in the J.K. drama.

how many seething 3 pence commission artfags are ITT? holy shit kek

>>20284997
definitely traced
i can tell by the pixels

>>20284997
I would have a hard time explaining that the face is terrible to the guy to be honest

>>20284997
now where is the artwork this was traced off of?

>>20284607
I thought that saying applied to Parisien people

>>20282739
>>20283938
If you save enough of these you could end up with a giant Saruei 'Why am I lonely' collage by the end of the year

>>20285036
No such thing as "people" in Paris

>>20284004
I only know her because a clip got autoplayed when I wasn’t paying attention. Someone was asking about how to say 19 in French, apparently as some pun, but she started insulting them since she didn’t get it and needed to have it explained to her.
It was a short clip but I didn’t even watch the entire thing because of how awful she seemed. Is looking like that wasn’t just a fluke.

>>20285036
Oui, les Parisiens sont tous des enculés

>>20284564
>le wrong generation
xD

>>20284997
traced and by traced I mean shit

>>20283030
she's literally blocking anyone on twitter bringing it up too lmao

>>20284997
he could have just said git gud but whatever

>>20284997
The funniest thing about this is that Saruei has retweeted objectively worse fanart.

>>20285048
That sounds like a shitty joke though

>>20283099
she drew Mori's daki

>>20283785
> Bahroo
Did this guy have a following before starting out as a vtuber? How did he get so huge in such little time?

>>20285048
I speak (leaf) french and I don't get it

>>20285024
>"haha, look at the frog being stupid"
>"UHHHH HOW MANY BUTTHURT ARTISTS ARE ITT SEETHING"

>>20284997
>these are the tits she said were too big
The face looks bad but this doesn't seem DQ worthy

>>20285024
An old saying is even a fair judge is loathed by half of his society.

>>20285138
dix-neuf
deez nuts
GOTTEM

>>20285048
dix-neuf? she got mad at a deez nuts joke? not sure if she's based or cringe for that one i'd have to see the video.

>>20284997
The guns being "inconsistent" with the face isn't surprising. Machines aren't hard to draw cleanly with references withoug tracing unless they're really complex. Guns in particular are full of symmetry and straight lines.

>>20284997
>saruei got ass blasted because the guy didnt trace her shitty face but traced the gun and buildings instead
lol if im sarugei, im never gonna live this one up

>>20285131
Of course he did. Dudes been around for a like a decade

>>20285168
>>20285169
it doesn't work
it's stupid

>>20285168
It's a terrible joke

>>20285005
the what

>>20283424
She's french, anon. Nothing good ever comes out of france.

>>20284333
if you've heard the discord clip he sounds like a faggot so i doubt it

>>20285147
i'm just farming (You)s by being a contrarian

>>20285160
This is the one where the tits were too big.

>>20284739
froot has no stakes in this
she just doing the obligatory "Im a artist so I should give my opinion on art drama"

>>20284738
Saruei drew a dakimakura for Mori’s birthday merch. The art is unironically dogshit and barely looks like Mori.
https://twitter.com/saruei_/status/1378751233993891840?s=21

Nevermind this bullshit, but fuck whoever this is
Holy shit, why are women on twitter the most annoying 'people' this planet has ever seen
>YAS GO OFF SIS SPILL THE TEA YALL BUSSIN FR FR NO CAP YALL YALL YALL
DIE WHORE
LEARN TO FORMULATE YOUR OWN SPEECH PATTERN YOU BRAINLESS FAGGOT
I'M SEETHING THROUGH CLENCHED TEETH

>>20284997
All that drama for that? Stop watching Twitch indies.

>>20285315
there are so many things wrong with this
holy shit
even Iofi is better

>>20285131
Bahroo has been a streamer for a billion years. He was a middle-of-the-pack streamer until he blew up thanks to borderlands 2. Then he kept staying relevant (8k to 10k average with spikes up to 20k+ ccv) by being an xcom 2 turboautist and a bunch of other games like darkest dungeon and flavor-of-the-month "strategy" games

>>20284997
Yeah it is shit but is it traced?

>>20285131
Bahroo's been on twitch for like 10 years. Got his start out as a COD streamer, then became variety, and last year decided to become a vtuber.

>>20285330
I knew I was lucky to get Guchico but I didn't know I was THAT lucky

>>20285131
Bahroo has been streaming as himself for like 10 years.

>>20284997
>>20285315
this shit sucks but you shouldn't be DQ'd just for not being that good

>>20284997
Agree its questionable but they way darius tranny is communicating is the issue. Whatever the fuck that subhuman is has been always the issue, saruei is always protecting the slave since the irl streams.

"Wtf is that chin and jaw line? What is that head shape? You lose good day sir!"
Though that's different than a DQ. That's the coward's way out.

>>20285340
>pre-debut

>>20285330
My favorite part is that her hips are hardly wider than her waist, and she also has cankles
Nice tummy detail though
Clearly one of those 'artists' that hyper-focuses on one particular part of the body and then just shits it up with everything else

>>20285315
of course she will have a meltdown over shitty art but whatever, sucks to be an elitist

>>20285315
Soppo?

>>20285444
Saruei is a mix between her and UMP45 basically

>>20284997
iofi would be seething

>>20285426
EVERY TIME
If there's one thing I'll give Calliope Mori, it's that she clearly can't stand vtweeters

>>20284738
>Thread has literally nothing to do with mori
>Bring up mori

>>20283896
Has >/Vt/ always used they/them pronouns like this or is something new?

>>20285444
Saruei plagiarizing gacha?

In all things considered, maybe letting EN people in the vtuber community was a good idea. If this keeps on going they will eventually just implode.

>>20284997
>drama started because no one had the balls to tell this person their art is shit

>>20285455
GFL was a surprisingly decent time when I played it. The grind did get tedious but it was a good ride while it lasted.

>>20285483
"Them" as in the entire Vyugen group retard.

>>20285483
esl

>>20285483
sure sign of a retarded tourist

>>20285468
Just need someone to bring up nijisanji to have the full combo.
Wait, does my post count?

>>20284997
haha whoa! she looks like a reptile

>>20285516
it was because she implied DQs were traced and blocking anyone asking for proof

>>20285519
Same opinion, I stopped after ~2k 0-2 and 1k 8-1n, keeping up was a bit too much for me. Still, the story and characters great, I still keep up with it. Not really happy about what they did with UMP45 mod 3 though

>>20285557
kill yourself
>rolls dice
...nijinigger

What the fuck is a DQ

>>20285568
so it's accurate?

>>20285483
Have you considered learning English?

>>20285601
Dick Queen

>>20283535
As much as I want to believe it's just some sore losers complaining, this tale is as old as contests or raffles and probably the reason those formats came to be in the first place. You can read about another influencer pulling this shit every single day now. The whole world has gone insane.

>>20285601
Dragon Quest. The losers are forced to play through the entire series, no wonder they had a meltdown

>>20285557
>>20285599
NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>20285097
>>20285138
>>20285169
>>20285048
It was a shitty joke but she got mad before that point. She wasn’t mad at the joke, she seemed mad because they even asked.
>>20285202
The clip is less than a minute long and I didn’t even get to the “punchline” because she seemed so awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyJg35BNseQ

I guess the happy mask was just a full blown cunt limiter

>>20285530
My bad

>>20285005
She always was. She got lucky because no one cared about her ass enough during her pre-vtuber days. JK lived in her head rent-free all the time, she would talk shit about him on stream and on her Discord VC.
Bitch literally scammed people by making Makima cosplay goal donation, and when she reached it, disappeared for 3 months (deleting all of the VODs) and returned as a Vtuber while always saying how 'she doesn't have any money all the time. Are you still broke Saru? Ditched the old fanbase, thinking they will forget that they gave her the money. ''GuYZ I AM NOT FRENCH'', that's not how you rebrand you retard.

>>20284997
>it doesn't respect the design!!!
>is the exact same design as her model
Also yeah it's nothing to write home about but it's not worth DQing over that shit, just feature it and don't have it win, EZ PZ

>Ummmm actually sweetie tracing is super wholesome and VALID!
Art is dead.

>>20285672
rent free

>>20285739
>The means matter more than the end
Art sure is dead.

>>20285676
whats wrong with this?

>>20285739
>hey do you have proof that i traced it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY

>>20285739
Who said that?

>>20282739
Literally who?

>>20285739
Where is the proof, Saruei? Also, who are you quoting?

>>20284766
if someone says ''You didn't got him because your art is bad'' that's fine but accusing someone of tracing just because ''it looks like tracing'' is bullshit

>>20285739
for an artist just starting out, tracing can help them learn

>>20285676
I mean, I would be mad if someone asked me something they could google in 2 seconds too

>>20285777

>>20285739
Tracing and not crediting work was the standard for far longer than it’s been looked down on. The masters didn’t do 3/4 of the work on their famous works

>>20285809
She has dug the hole way to deep to backpedal now and say "okay it was because the art was bad"

See? this is why you should steer clear from ENvtubers. Watch JPvtubers instead. the western scene is nothing but drama and decadence

>>20285672
I still prefer the old style. When I didnt have to shift through he whole list to find the newest cope

>>20285781
>pic
That can't be true, right?right?

didn't saruei have tracing drama herself

>>20285753
Sure thing nipplesanji

I mean, Saruei is a pretty nice artist, but as a person she is a complete bitch, which would be ok if it was just part of her persona, but she is apparently a bitch IRL and on work related stuff, last i heard about her was some dude called J.K. dot dot having a shitshow with her over some IRL stuff and some other artist getting harassed over some insane deadlines she was putting up for some work stuff.

Then it's hilarious that before this, the other thing i read from her is that she is having a hard time making friends on the vtuber scene, which checks out again lmao.

>>20285739
>Drawing an anime girl in a generic pose over a generic background is "art"

>>20285739
Small time artists are delusional. If you bitch about your art being traced it just shows your insecurities and also how bad and irrelevant was your art. If you were that good, people would be the one defending your art literally for free.

>>20282739
Has Bao said anything on the matter?

>>20285865
>I mean, Saruei is a pretty nice artist
No she's not, there are dozens of people better than her

So this fuckwit finally blew up proper, good, she's a vile person. I could tell from barely even watching her what type she was. I steered clear of that landmine.

>>20285739
Oh boy I sure hope you don't listen to music or watch movies or read books or anything like that because OH MAN WILL YOU BE DISAPPOINTED WHEN YOU FIND OUT ALMOST ALL ART IS DERIVATIVE (and has been for hundreds and hundreds of years at least)

>>20285865
>as a person she is a complete bitch, which would be ok if it was just part of her persona, but she is apparently a bitch IRL
I can fix her

>>20285709
Can confirm this, she scammed viewers with that shit, posted a pic on discord and did not follow up.
She asked the mods to nuke the discord for a "fresh" start, deleting all type of harrasment to viewers, the jk drama, her moopy speech of why i dont have friends, and lewd and softcore talk about how she fucks guys every month to please herself.

>>20285910
Which has never been a problem, I like seeing a new copy of Devilman every few years. As long as it's done well it's all good

>>20285483
ESlchama....
They/them is a way of referring to someone when you don't know much about that someone. It can also be used to refer to a group of people.

>>20285781
>>20285862
Yknow it could actually happen I think. One of my childhood friends has blonde hair and blue eyes, but her dad is full black.
Pic could be total bullshit but I think it would be possible, only if she has a black parent though.

>>20285897
There will always be dozens of people better than anyone else unless you are Magnus Carlsen and the skill in question is chess you fag

>>20285977

>>20285988
Which is why her skill is worthless, look at the Mori daki and tell me again she's a "nice artist"

I'm just waiting for the OnlyFans.

>>20285435
Imagine her face trying to give that artist 5k$, it's Artesian Builds AND HERE IS A REROLL all over again lmao

>>20284997
>>20285315
Keep in mind that retard artists take this shit seriously. Accusing someone of tracing just because their art sucks is like accusing someone of rape because you want them to get kicked out of their little league baseball team.
A normal person might say that comparing tracing to rape is fucking insane, but this is what these retards genuinely believe.

>>20285865
Saruei is a hack fraud and her nsfw "selfie" drawings with an impossible camera reflection are proof enough of this.

>>20285988
Chess is a dangerous skill and can turn you into a schizo like Bobby Fischer

>>20285897
Even if you understandably hate her, its an objective thing that she does amazing artwork, theres no denying it whatsoever even if theres probably better artists out there, this is left to personal preference but she is skilled at what she does.

>>20286007
Seriously, I know the dad, he had 3 kids with a white lady and they all turned out looking white. Pale skin, blonde hair, blue eyes. Fuckin wild

>>20285781
It can happen but.....please for the love of God do a DNA test

>>20285766
>>20285825
But as an entertainer is that really the best way to handle it? I don’t know, she just seemed like a huge bitch.

>>20283700
She's french

>>20286022
She has already one
Toutes les putes de France en ont un, c'est connu

>>20285865
>some insane deadlines
YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT ARTIST
YES, (YOU)
FINISH YOUR WORK RIGHT NOW
EVERY SINGLE ARTFAG HERE SHOULD BE FINISHING THEIR COMMISIONS
INCLUDING ME
THIS IS NOT INSANE IS TAKING OTHER PEOPLE TIME AND MONEY SERIOUSLY
STOP SHITPOSTING
GO WORK

>>20285977
My bad. I meant "real", not "true". As in, That post/situation can't be real right? Like, there's nobody stupid enough to buy that retardation. It's got to be a joke.

>>20286015
whats wrong with it? at least it looks like a person unlike the atrocious shit that got rejected from the contest kek

>>20286041
>objectively amazing
>can't get the proportions right
>lighting is average
>pose and background are the most basic shit you can come up with
That's far from being "amazing". You're probably just a deadbeat coping over your shitty daki

>>20286064
She's improved a fair bit, but she's still ESL, English wordplay jokes completely go over her head kek, she genuinely thought this dude was just asking her to translate some random shit in French

>>20285426
Stop gatekeeping >:( not everyone has the time or money to be a vtuber. Tweeting is a legitimate way to be a tvuber.

>>20286044
>he had 3 kids with a white lady and they all turned out looking white
You realize how exceddingly unlikely this is, right? It's more probable that he's infertile and that the wife is fucking someone on the side.

>>20286044
>three

>>20286134
I'm not saying she's not better than the horrors that got submitted, I'm just saying that in general there are lots of people way better than her, her art is nothing special

>>20286139
Sounds good enough to make a living off furry porn commissions

>>20283700
She's said in a past stream that she has Borderline Personality Disorder. (And I mean that literally, not just like how 4chan calls people schizo and autistic)

>>20285940
What's the JK thing

>>20283785
Holy shit, you're right, she maybe shoot her carier alone for such a stupid thing lol

>>20286139
Post your artwork and/or example of amazing proportion/lightning/good pose that completely invalidates the artwork she does.

>>20285865
>is a pretty nice artist, but as a person she is a complete bitch
Described most artists, except the ones that suck at their trade

>>20286193
An amputee suffering from Parkinson and drawing with his foot is good enough to make a living off furry porn commission, that stuff is probably the modern way of making a deal with the devil

>>20285672
Rent free!

>>20286139
I don't think most anons look that heavily into art. I struggle drawing stick figures for fucks sake, so if I see an anime chick that looks mildly attractive and is better drawn than what I can do then I consider that pretty amazing. Especially when you compare it to some of the shit that got submitted for the contest.
That being said, her personality is still shit.

>>20286139
idk, i can only tell that the chin is kinda fuck, what else are not proportional

>>20283424
She's a menhera anon, don't get fooled.
t.frog

Hmmm...

>>20285286
100% that, it's her gay friend

>>20286182
holy shit kys you faggot

>>20286219
>You can't criticize her if you're not better than her!
I'm saying other people are better, not that I am better. Get some reading comprehension

>>20286279
I don't even look that heavily, it's just that by following Hololive stuff it's easy to see lots of great artist doing great stuff

>>20286301
The hands are completely fucked, the arms a bit too. To be fair lots of people seem to struggle with that

>>20285286
She's french Anon. Our women are attracted by voices like that

>doesnt show any proofs that the artwork was traced
>keeps deleting her tweets
>deleted the contest document so you wouldn't be able to check the rules and terms
amazing! i see you never changed your ways of being a manipulative bitch.

>All drama dies out. Give it a week. Only salt will remain and some dramafags that want to keep it going.

The funnies thing is that as usual the badwagon has arrived for Schizos and they have blown the topic to such size that its just retarded

>>20284088
I thank God everyday I wasn't born a frog.

>>20286301
Anime chins are always fucky too. Like my favorite anime is durarara but every other scene the characters out of focus look like lollipops due to their weird face proportions

>>20286041
looks exactly the same as everything your average gacha artist puts out.

>>20285202
cope, you got deeznuts'd

>>20282739
Does this bitch ever shut up. Lmao

>>20286360
Do we know who's the winner, if they actually got the prize money and if they are, conviently, her friend?

>>20285340
how do retards here shit on twitterspeak not realizing everyone on this site types the same way too
u are not special or better than anyone

>>20285960
I assumed that the guy i replied was refering to the artist and not the artist's company but can "they" be used to talk about an individual without sounding like a sjw? I didn' know that. Thank you

>>20286362
Are you indian? I only see indians capitalizing words for no reasons because they feel the words are important, like you did with "Schizos"

>>20286362
based schizos

Silvervale also has to take now part in the juicy drama

>>20286219
>Only cooks can criticize bad food
You don't need to be a chef to determine that a diner burger with roaches and rat hair in it is bad.

>>20286438
Please do the needful and revert back before the dateline, sir.

>>20286450
>I will fellate your egos for fanart

>>20286040
qrd on this Bobby Fischer guy? Always see him getting mentioned

>>20286470
To be fair according to his arguments you would only have to be able to cook something which doesn't have roaches and rat hair, which doesn't sound too hard

>>20286209
At least Autism and Schizophrenia are biological defects, BPD and other personality disorders just mean you have bad thinking habits. BPD is just a scientific way of saying someone is a bitch and the cure is to train them not to be such a bitch.

>>20283729
why do you hate yourself anon

>>20286219
>you have to be able to cook a perfect steak to tell the chef that he served you litteral shit on a platter
go nuke your discord and twitter again and come back as another person saruei

>>20286331
But wheres the example of this other artworks that are so amazing that makes her artwork in question so bad in comparison that it loses all value.
You are clearly on a hate train that you can't possible accept that she is a skilled artist even tho she is a shitty person.

>>20282739
frogbros... Pourquoi est-ce que c'est Saruei qui nous représente..

I'm really enjoying her streams, but man, her behaviour and that of her mod really leave a bad aftertaste.
Seems like they are a magnet for drama with their shitty behaviour.

>>20284300
This. It's like something from fucking Looney Toons. I can't take french people that sound like Saruei seriously.

>>20286435
>but can "they" be used to talk about an individual without sounding like a sjw?
Yes. This shit has seriously poisoned your minds.

>>20283896
Be careful though, she's got some seriously strict rules in her chat due to being an uber-catholic italian.

Which is kinda weird considering this is the type of stuff she draws but those types are always impossible to understand.

>>20286040
Chess is the way failed males (geeks, nerds, etc) try to recreate the feeling of "winning in the social hierarchy" because they were jealous of other people during high school. You can see this easily, when you're approached by a nerd that has more self-esteem than usual, at some point they will ask you to play chess, usually with a little smile, or more happiness in their voice than usual, because they've been playing lots of chess to make themselves feel superior to you

>>20286543
Just watch her vods

Start your stream you fucking cat

>>20286438
Not defending the sir here but the german language has a lot of capitalized words.
Ich verteidige den Herren nicht, aber die deutsche Sprache hat eine menge großgeschriebene Wörter.
Mainly just nouns tho.

>>20285781
Disgusting.

>>20286560
she also draws full on nsfw artwork for her patreon which is particularly funny. hypocritical I guess but I don't blame her for milking coomers

>>20286532
Anything by Guchico is way better than what she does. Look again at the face of the Pekora you posted and tell me it's okay.

>>20286182
Kek

>>20284075
t. saruei's discord mod

even the frogs are coming out lol

>>20286450
lmao even if they are right Vshojo talking like this everytime there's some huge drama will always be funny, these girls are a bunch of hyenas

>>20286592
Sure but usually germans are good enough to pass as regular english by the way they write, what gives them away is the way they argue

>>20284504
There was that jkdot one where she at least had a foot to stand on since he made her out like some kinda schizo child in a horror film who'd be holding a torn up bear plushie while crying blood, but even that story had some truth in it outside of the outrageous "literally trying to curse some random grandma to die" aspect.

>>20286560
The absolute one is no swearing. She’ll let horny slide sometimes, but never a fuck.

>>20286435
Yes. When you don't know an individual's identity or anything about Them, you refer to to Them with they/them pronouns.
It's just how the English language works.

>>20284075
va te faire enculer Saruei

>>20286183
Nah, we all grew up together. One of the girls I still talk to, she has a similar facial structure to her dad, you can definitely see it there. The son looks exactly like him but with his mom's pigmentation.
Very very rare, but it happens. iirc Pikamee has a Japanese dad but is blonde/blue eyed

>>20286667
Par moi si possible

>>20282739
A few years ago there were plenty of people doing art contests because they were dumb as shit and sincerely didn't know any better, but at this point anyone who's familiar enough with online art to have a fucking custom vtuber avatar must know exactly what the problem is with them and if they do one they could only possibly be doing so maliciously.

Just start accusing this person of tracing their art.

do we need this?

>>20286430
That's what we call "cancer" newfriend

>>20286629
I didn't know that google translate was that good for French, that's basically a perfect translation

>>20286540
En même temps faut-être honnête, nos femmes francaises sont vraiment toutes des filles à problème qui passent leur temps à gueuler.
T'en connais une toi de francaise sans drama?

>>20286560
I never type in chats anyway. But thanks for the heads up!

>>20286717
>(1.
>(2.
Kill yourself

>>20286629
she already hates french people so this is quite literally a worthless comment

>>20286470
he asked him to post something he considers better
fucking read nigga

>>20286554
To be desu, "he" is a grammatically correct way to refer to someone with an unknown gender and was much more prominent in usage than they/them prior to all this gender and feminazi retardation.

>>20286717
stay contained in your own board /jp/ you are a disease

>>20286742
Every French hates French people anon

>>20286450
Stunning and brave

>>20286655
Yeah we are tought common sense by our parents before we even get to visit the kindergarden.

>>20286609
She's just keeping her chat civil and I appreciate it.

>>20284171
because you sound like an indian

>>20286717
does this make Rushia a "Western women"?

Stop retweeting and start your stream

>>20286752
To be fair I only read the three first words of his post before replying, the other anon probably did the same

>hold art contest
>artist is assblasted because her art is shit and didn’t get selected
>mod is also under fire because he said retard
I don’t see any reason to shit on Saruei, but I see many reasons to never hold any art contest ever again.

>>20286450
>out of literally nothing
I hate zoomer speak.

Saruei art is so basic that both her and Squ-chan's artworks are almost identical, but Squ's is better in terms of shading and somehow her artworks look like they got more soul.>>20286532

>>20282902
Ralts is from the Hoenn Region retard

>>20286662
Incorrect, proper English pronoun usage is to default to “he” when gender is unknown. Using them/they is only recently gaining steam as being grammatically acceptable, though there have been periods in the past where it was common anyway.
You can look it up if you like.

>>20286450
I like how this shits on all their work in a way. Hours of work? No, they just make it appear out of nowhere. I seriously can't say if this is a super underhanded comment about people tracing or just a clueless comment

>>20286139
NTA but I can jerk off to it and that's all a man needs.

>>20286788
Why do you think corpos have 0 interaction with viewers?

saruei stop retweeting art to try and drown out the drama on your twitter

>>20286789
What Silvervale wrote is like 300+IQ in America.
99% of mutts wouldn't be able to articulate sentences with more than 3 words.

>>20286788
Because those are not the reasons.

>>20286821
That looks traced to me

>>20286804
you have to be blind to genuinely think this

>>20286722
Elles sont toutes chiantes à un certain degré je le reconnais. Mais on a quand même eu une championne

>>20286779
Ever heard Einstein talk? It's not as bad but it's close.

>>20286827
she blocked me months ago kek

>>20286822
Kiara did the preselection for her fashion contest live in a member stream and nobody got assblasted. Artists are another breed.

>>20286821
That's fair but that's not what we were talking about. I jerk off to really shitty art, that doesn't make it good

>>20286822
>he doesn't know

French are dicks

>>20286769
c'est vrai

>>20286821
eyes look creepy and dead ngl, thought the same about Calli's daki before i even knew who saruei was

>>20284049
heh

>>20286903
Why, because you love us so much anon?

She's been coping more than ever since she got outed as a tracer. If she didn't sound like a french prostitute this woman would be living off of government benefits right now.

@saruei donnez-moi la pussy

>>20286769
C’est faux
Mais putain que je peux pas supporter l’accent

>>20286755
Not really.
Anyone who's taken any sort of English class will tell you that They/Them has literally always been the way you refer to someone you do not know.
"He" is pretty much only used on the internet to refer to people who you don't know

>>20286906
je t'apprécie anon

>>20286820
There's no need to overthink it, she's just trying to be nice. This board has poisoned your mind.

>>20285340
just want to let you know anon that I feel exactly the same

>>20285468
Mori is the reason I know Saurei exists because she drew her daki but ok

>>20286755
No it's not you fucking retard

>>20286450
Her whole personality is unironically a manic pixie fairy egirl, it's not surprising every other word out of her mouth feels like its covered in pastel colored sparkles to cover up how its just shapeless vomit.

>>20286861
Kiara is immune to antis

>>20286788
Thats why you don't disqualify people over stuff like "tracing" if you can't instantly prove it otherwhise you end up in this shitshow.
Just straight up tell the artist they are didn't do good enough but they value the effort and that she will retweet the honorable mentions on her twitter whatever, costs her nothing.

She would score so many brownie points with the community and avoid all the backlash but hey, the mod fucked up and she doubled down. great job.

>>20286949
>This board
You think I needed /vt/ to try to read between the lines of what people say anon?

>>20286821
All of Saruei works look the same.

>>20284049
the irony she tweeted that within a day of this shit blowing up

>>20286981
That looks traced

>>20286755
What are you talking about?

>>20286867
>>20286981
Dick likes what the dick likes. I ain't about to say she's some god-tier artist but I've jerked off to way worse looking shit.

>>20284333
>I'm not bubbly
Does he even read what bullshit he typed before posting it online?

>>20286979
I'm trying to be optimistic.

>>20286813
TIL that Jane Austin is modern and recent. That the 17th century is considered recent to anon.

>>20286981
And this is bad because...?

>>20287020
Again, same, but I wouldn't put her art as wallpaper, or buy merch with her art on it

>>20287031
You just learn to live with it, fortunately it's relatively light and doesn't affect my relationship with people

Reminder that Saruei is a tracer and a con artist. She probably charged Mori in the high triple digits for pic related. Even though it's amateurish and makes her look like a loli with saggy tits.

>>20282739
didn't she have some sort of drama with der Vyugend member before? I don't follow any of those terrible people...

>nonbinary twitroons are here

>>20286788
>double down on your stupid mod
>block well-known artists saying you're making a big stink over something silly
>proceed to backpedal while deleting all the passive aggressive replies you made while defending your mod's honor
>said mod 'apologizes' under your tweets and just sets off another fire
Frog...

>>20287087
unironically seek help

>>20286981
shh don't tell Inner

>>20287081
"high triple digits" for something that's sold $120 and will sell probably at least 1000 units? That's a steal

>>20287081
Looks traced to me

>>20286450
I fucking hate this faggot sissy way of speaking so fucking much

>>20286981
>All of Saruei works look the same
Agreed. She has Ina's sameface syndrome.

>>20287047
Can't disagree with you there.

>>20287108
feeling attacked?

>>20287081
Holy kek that looks fucking awful.

>>20287087
There was a moment where they weren't there?

>>20287081
Was this actually traced? I don't keep up with HoloEN drama that much but it wouldn't shock me hearing half the shit about Saruei that I've heard

>>20287100
Not saying that the damage control is good. But the drama should not have started at all. You can’t have nice things with artists because they’ll start drama over nothing.

>>20287108
41% yourself faggot

>>20287112
>$9000 x2 = $18,000
>for THAT
It's a ripoff if anything.

>>20286930
It's "donne moi de la chatte", burger

>>20287208
She starts dumb drama out of nowhere all the time.
>hey check out these DMs from three months ago

>>20287226
Anon, "in the high triple digits" is something between 500 and 999, not 18k

>>20287086
wasn't it with Yocchi (Yoclesh)?

>>20287081
Lmao it's so bad. What's even going on here. She's bending her knee but she's drawn it like her leg has shrunk.

>>20287208
She's french and she's an artist.

That combos about as good as avoiding drama as a burger is at avoiding a drive-thru.

>>20286813
this is not true at all and shit morons parrot to look smart and like, pwn woke people i guess

singular they has been around for the better part of a millenia. learn some linguistics

>>20287195
I doubt it. Saruei is actually a pretty good artist, in the space that she's in. She seems to suffer from a bit of sameface, but that happens when you have a very particular style.

>>20287226

>>20287272
I'm an ESL. I meant triple digits as in three zeros. But anyway, my bad.

>>20287340
What "space" is she in?

>>20287351
Fair enough, in that case it would be a ripoff for what it is

>>20287276
It was with literally all of them after some other twitter artist whose name I'm forgetting but draws pretty hot goth girls posted some expose on Saruei.

>>20287358
coomer anime art by westerners

>>20287299
Correct outline, shit ass job at shading. If you look on the other leg it has the same issue, except it's the correct "lenght". Shading still sucks as on both of them.
You don't have to be a great artist to see what the issue is, just some hours