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>> No.20237614
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.20237658
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>49,843: Pekora (Hololive)
>34,678: Marine (Hololive)
>28,906: Miko (Hololive)
>25,197: Kronii (Hololive)
>21,408: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,558: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,804: Watame (Hololive)
>13,176: Mio (Hololive)
>12,940: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,547: Choco (Hololive)
>12,547: Ina (Hololive)
>11,969: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,706: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,613: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,417: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,165: Nene (Hololive)
>10,631: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,624: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,587: Flare (Hololive)
>10,563: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,535: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,303: Ema (VSPO)

>> No.20237704

I'm not sure if footfag OP is my favourite or least favourite of the ones we have

>> No.20237997

Ah, peace

>> No.20238003

>>20237521
>>20237672
And, the punchline

Number of streams over 10k, per streamer, Nijisanji EN, total
>28x: Vox
>21x: Mysta
>8x: Luca
>6x: Ike
>5x: Nijisanji English Official
>3x: Shu, Uki Violeta, Yugo Asuma
>2x: Fulgur Ovid, Sonny Brisko, Alban Knox, Petra, Enna
>1x: Millie, Rosemi, Selen, Elira, Pomu, Finana, Nina, Reimu

Fulgur Ovid, Sonny Brisko, Alban Knox are one 10k stream from creating the most definite gap between boys and girls on Nijisanji EN

>> No.20238110

>>20238003
Huh, I would've never thought Elira is below Petra.
>Millie
Please stop debuffing yourself you stupid flip.

>> No.20238140

>>20238003
+ 4 more
3 LazuLight debut and lazulight debut program

>> No.20238222

>>20238140
You're right, mado only started tracking after 2021-07-17, missing the branch debut

>> No.20238258

>>20238140
Finana's stream never started on debut and her real debut was 7k iirc

>> No.20238275

>>20238140
>>20238222
With that said, it would "only" push lazulight to 2x, making Noctyx 1 stream over 10k from creating a straight split between boys and girls on the 3x mark

>> No.20238543

>those white day numbers from vox
oh no no no no

>> No.20238638

>>20238003
wtf is this??? so /#/ is really reclining

>> No.20238686

>>20237599
>>20237614
ATDAN never fails to deliver.

>> No.20238809

>>20238003
>28x: Vox
Makes his failure to get over 10k on white day even more noticeable.

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>>20238003
Pomu and Rosemi, I can save you. Fuck the other ladies

>> No.20239419

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3LGQfRa6Kg
300k

>> No.20239594

Why is Aki still playing Ark.

>> No.20239642

/#/ is declining.

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>>20239642
hey man

>> No.20239901

How long will it take for Iofi's song to reach 100k views?

>> No.20240086

>>20238003
Thank you anon. That really puts things into perspective

>> No.20240718

>>20238003
Now that you posted this they're gonna start hosting more large collabs on the smaller girls channel.

>> No.20240793

>>20238110
Petra had a couple of collabs with Mayuzumi and a few others.,

>> No.20240953

>>20239901
Looking like less than a week.
Like rate is at 33% which means either than not all views were processed or it has an absolutely insane new viewer ratio.
Either way, people that watched and liked it can still watch it more.

>> No.20241089

>>20240793

The Mayuzumi/Lauren/Elira collab didn't get 10k. It was very close to it tho. Her other 10k there is the one with Vox, Mysta and Enna

>> No.20241229

>>20241089
>9,676
https://vrabi.net/video/LkdleLEumKI
Welp, that's unfortunate.
Also, i straight up forgot about their debuts.

>> No.20241470

>>20238003
NijiEN biggest competitors are Hololive and VShojo. The one major advantage NijiEN girls have is that they stream more than but, other than that, why would anyone choose to watch the NijiEN girls over HoloEN or VShojo, especially their solo streams?

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>>20237599
Congrats OP, you made this thread over an hour and a half before the last one died
Can we please fucking wait until the thread is one or two bumps from death like we did before?

>> No.20241639

>>20241470
I would sometimes fill dead air with NijiEN stream.

>> No.20241654

So we know Doom Eternal is a super debuff game for both Mori and Ame. Will Mumei crack 10k with her first stream of it?

>> No.20241746

>>20241609
But Atdan draws nice legs and feet

>> No.20241780

>>20241654
Doubt it, but Mumei punches above Ame nowadays since Ame succesfully filtered her massive Myth fanbase. Seriously her fall can't be explained by cull alone, she used to be Myth's nr 2

>> No.20241815

>>20241470
that's a weird question
the obvious answer is because they find them more entertaining
but then we enter the territory of "quality" in a numbers thread

your question is kinda retarded

>> No.20241835

>>20241654
I believe in hoomans

>> No.20241838
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>>20241470
Don't have enough cringe tolerance for 95% of holoEN and vshojo are whores

>> No.20241841

>>20241780
>Ame succesfully filtered her massive Myth fanbase
Gura must be pretty jealous of her.

>> No.20241842

>>20239918
Also, Gura's busy doing a members-only JP practice karaoke, so she's out

>> No.20241899

>>20241841
All Gura has to do is give up her timeslot and stream at 1am est everyday.

>> No.20241992

>>20241838
Hi Fungus

>> No.20242056

>>20241780
Ame is the EN version of Haachama (ironic I know), though still doing better than her since she isn't intentionally demonetizing herself

>> No.20242074

>>20241899
That would probably buff her since then her massive SEA and JP fanbase would more comfortably be able to watch her, lol. Just look at what happened when she ran to 7am EST. She still got 18k.

>> No.20242096

>>20241899
Nah, for all the memes about Gura hating her popularity I don't think she hates it the same way as Ame. She hates being the nr 1, probably would be fine with nr 2. She hates her chat being fast, which can't be fixed even by filtering it to Ame levels. She hated singing in front of a lot of people, but she got over it.

Ame on the other hand..she'll actively fuck with the numbers because she thought she could be a 2 view with Hololive resources.

>> No.20242180

>>20241899
Gura's worst performing timeslot was EU hours, and even then it just knocked her down to debuff game tier. If she pushes into asian times she unironically gets the same or even more CCV like with Project Diva.

>> No.20242241

>>20242180
Lets just put it this way. If Gura randomly decided to do all of her streams in asian times she would easily crush Vox as the number one asian time EN streamer.

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>>20241992
this thread would at least be worth reading if you at least came up with jokes instead of the same 3 deflections

>> No.20242252

Going to drop my predictions from last thread
>10k for Mumei
>6k for Bae
>5k for Kronii
>3k for Haachama
>2k for IRyS

possible chance of a 10k Bae and IRyS might be higher.

>> No.20242327

>>20242252
10k is possible for Bae since she is doing a gimmick stream and she always executes those really well. IRyS might be a little higher but its a superchat reading so it won't be much higher.

>> No.20242328

>>20242241
Yeah but that's a given. Bragging about beating Vox shouldn't be a Gura goal, comparing them only gives niji small dog syndromers a sense of pride that they can punch that close to Gura.

We'll see long term if Vox is even beating Mori, I do think he's ahead this month, but didn't last month. She streams in JP hours.

>> No.20242432

>>20242245
ok finana

>> No.20242444

>>20242241
They're completely different markets that would not cannibalise each other's audiences I thought we all agreed on this when holoEN was the one lagging behind

>> No.20242455

>>20241470
The fact that vshojo does react streams as much as they do puts well below anything on YouTube.

>> No.20242507

>>20239594
Leave my dino aunt alone, nigger.

>> No.20242520

>>20239594
She's tanking her median hard with these long-ass streams but at the very least she's farming some neat hours watched before HoloFes3. I wish she was playing some VS or Cyberpunk instead though as I have been watching her for the last 7 hours even while I hate that game

>> No.20242597

>>20242507
I thought she was a wine aunt

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Today's superchats, a whole lotta money flying around for white day and birthdays

>> No.20242747

>>20242636
I love seeing pink dog get rewarded, hard work!

>> No.20242787

>>20242597
Wine aunt is default state Aki. She's a dino aunt when playing with the dinos, sex aunt when dancing, things like that.

>> No.20242831

>>20242444
>When HoloEN was the one lagging behind
This was never the case

>> No.20242900
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>>20242636
And here's the runners up because yeah, crazy day

>> No.20242908

>>20242636
Mysta really has a lot of SEA fans that doesn't superchat.

>> No.20242936

>>20242252
Bae said she will use TTS to read the pick up lines and maybe a heart rate monitor. So i wouldn't suprise it will get higher than 6K.

>> No.20242943

>>20242747
Me too man.

>> No.20242962

>>20242900
>noefure next to each other

>> No.20243016

>>20242636
March superchats so far
>Vox - $95,385
>Nene - $79,117
>Leos - $65,064
>Miko - $64,531
>Koyori - $57,769
>Chloe - $54,703
>Akina - $48,855
>Luca - $42,287
>Kronii - $35,828
>Shu - $34,610
>Laplus - $33,117
>kson - $31,341
>Lamy - $31,296

>> No.20243084

>>20243016
woah, lap over lamy

>> No.20243339

>>20238620
Laplus definitely attracted a bunch of Niconama folks and even a few Nijifans since her style was mostly tending towards those type of streams
A significant portion of them seem to have been new to V in general, surprisingly enough there's still a huge audience that doesn't watch ANY VTubers.

>> No.20243411

>>20243016
jesus fuck vox calm down we're not even halfway through month yet

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>>20243339
Source?

>> No.20243546

>>20243501
Based on my cock retard

>> No.20243625

>>20237332
This is retarded mate. The holos that got the most burger audiences were the ones that streamed late enough at night to leak into NA time, and Asacoco watchers which aired around 5pm EST and was in a bite sized 20 min chunk.
HoloJP watchers have mostly been from SEA or TW since then due to the streaming hours.
I don't think any of the JP members ever had that many US gachikois either, other than maybe Coco.

>> No.20243630

Hold on am I losing my mind
https://youtu.be/8mfhG5GMsIo
Wasn’t this vid at like 2 mil just a couple days ago? Shit is almost 5 million views now and has another comparison video of the same shit at 5 million too

Gura what the fuck is with your popularity

>> No.20243707

>>20243630
It was at like, 200k for a few days before the algorithm locked on to the keywords GAWR GURA and accelerated

>> No.20243715

>>20243546
Not based on much then.

>> No.20243739

>>20243630
>Gura
>popular
Faggot, this only blew up because it's FNF and King Kman is an well-known animator

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>>20243546

>> No.20243849

>>20243796
towa...

>> No.20243886

>>20243739
>gura
>not popular
Retarded bait

>> No.20243979

>>20241089
what led to that collab anyway? did they just reach out on discord/Twitter randomly? Was there some inciting event leading up to it?
Iirc isn't Mayuzumi very reticent about collabing?

>> No.20243998

>>20243339
NND has been kind of dead for awhile, anon. Those niconama folks you're talking about don't even exist anymore, most of them already moved to either Youtube to follow Hikakin or Twitch to follow Shaka and Stylishnoob, and Jun for both platforms. Now it's just a place to post bait clips about chuuba's yab.

>> No.20244113

>>20243998
>post bait clips about chuuba's yab
And Ngo clips of course

>> No.20244228

>>20243625
You're implying that SEA/TW holofans don't agree with the NA view that idol culture is toxic when that's not the case especially in the English-speaking community.

>> No.20244478

Mumei and Kronii not only had the initial popularity, but they have staying power as far as retaining fans, and they are improving as streamers in a noticeable way. If we don't take Moris music into account padding her viewers the top 3 for EN looks like Gura , Kronii, and Mumei?

>> No.20244501

Every time I see a holo play Eternal I'm reminder Korone refuses to play it and I don't know why

It would have gotten good numbers if she played it near release...it still could

>> No.20244555

>>20244228
SEA and TW folks don't really use EN socials, they're mostly on stuff like Facebook. And yes, despite their tendency to shitpost, they tend to be far more reasonable and can actually read paragraphs - unlike virtue signaling burgers who don't even watch the girls.

>> No.20244583

>>20244228
>idol culture is toxic
>Hololive aren't idols
>even if they were, they are very progressive (except of course of that one fuck up of them putting up a wall between Stars and Holos because they thought fans would go apeshit, but they have since backtracked on it)
???
Do non Holo watchers imagine YAGOO makes all their talents shave off their heads if they're even in the same room as men?

>> No.20244624

>>20244501
I frankly think she just forgot about it.

>> No.20244635

>>20244228
what the fuck are you talking about? SEA/TW are a big market for actual fucking idols.

>> No.20244664

>>20244501
Devs added a Korone Easter egg, Korone reacted and got very excited about it. Then the devs were forced to remove it because it wasn't a company sanctioned Easter egg.

>> No.20244768

>>20243630
Pretty shocking. That's an incredible growth rate.

>> No.20244836

>>20243630
lmao I remember people commenting how this animation was ''underrated'' because it wasn't getting that many views, look at it now

>> No.20244963

>>20244228
SEA/TW holofans are no where near the level of Burger's ape shit virtual signal when come to "idol" anon, i'd say they're much more reasonable .

>> No.20245054

>>20244583
yes they do

>> No.20245121

>>20244501
Korone was about to play it after her birthday, she even put up a frame but unfortunately got sick and pretty much forgot about it.

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>>20243630
Still remembered when it was first posted here, 23k views after a few hours... Then the second time, 1.5M~. Now it's 4.5M.

>> No.20245340

How would you all feel if NijiEN did an ochame kinou cover?

>> No.20245350

>>20244583
Yeah, sometimes some casual Holo watchers do think like that. Especially on leddit.

>> No.20245433

>>20244583
They have an image of Hololive that doesn't exist anywhere but on vtweeter timelines.
Meanwhile the same vtweeters who shit talk Hololive are also praying they get the golden ticket into it.

>> No.20245464

>>20244478
I'd put Ina above both Kronii and Mumei. Kronii in particular has had some weaker numbers recently (not including birthday)

>> No.20245543

>>20245340
Seems like a dumb thing to do, what would be the point of such a move?

>> No.20245583

>>20245340
Would instantly mog Holos

>> No.20245618

why is the name larper back

>> No.20245648

>>20245340
Wouldn't your anti idol fan be mad at you guys for it?

>> No.20245712

>>20245618
Sorry, noctyx isn't doing as well as they expected.

>> No.20245748

>>20245340
Sounds like they would embarrass themselves by trying to copy a Holo tradition for no real reason.

>> No.20245800

>>20245340
I'd have no issue. It's not a Hololive song.

>> No.20245809

>>20242252
>>3k for Haachama
well first one wrong...

>> No.20245880

>>20245340
I'd laugh my ass off, that's about it.

>> No.20245952

>>20245340
Expected, HoloEN lite will do as HoloEN lite does. I still remember when they embarrassed themselves with their chibi VR model copies.

>> No.20246030

>>20245618
Comfy hours ended. Now begins shitposting hours

>> No.20246068

>>20246030
it's not even noon man, why so early

>> No.20246082

>>20242936
>>20242252
nah is monday
numbers will be low today
bae will be 4k
kronii 5k
mumei has 8.8k as peak
the 3 will be overlaping also.

hachama im surprised she is having 5k.

>> No.20246088

>>20245340
It's not Holo original so why not? But it's probably better to just cover some meme English song instead since that's their main audience anyway, with the exception of some people.

>> No.20246095

>>20245340
Didn't they tried it with nyancat but it fucking bombed bc of no vocal and people knew that they wanted ochamekinou effect?

>> No.20246130

>>20246082
maybe it's miko in the thumbnail? the holo audience is also a bit starved for minecraft stuff i guess

>> No.20246142

Why does the shitposting start during these timeslots?

Mutts returning home from work?
Neet seamonkeys waking up?
Both?

>> No.20246260

>>20245340
I think thats great. NijiEN should also Virtual to Live to balance it out. One holo then a niji song.

>> No.20246266

>>20246142
Why do you faggots forget that another set of countries shares the same goddamn timeslots and has decent enough english?
SOUTH AMERICA EXISTS YOU FUCKWITS.

>> No.20246304

>>20246130
>maybe it's miko in the thumbnail?
don't really see people leaving from not seeing miko though, graphs isn't too out of the ordinary

>> No.20246316

>>20246142
Anon it's 10pm EST. Burger hours have been in place since forever ago...

>> No.20246436

>>20246266
el hilo de los números se está muriendo...

>> No.20246446

>>20246266
the last time I brought that up meidos gave me a warning...

>> No.20246456

>>20246142
Burger hours, just lay low until JP prime time or midnight JP time when it's dead hours.

>> No.20246503

>>20246266
How is that different from the mutts? Both populations speak majority Spanish. Honestly only Chinada aren’t majority Latinx in the Americas

>> No.20246553

>>20246260
> newbies Nijilivers covering VTL
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.20246654

>>20244664
specifically Doog is an actual company that sells dog food products and that's where the problem comes in.

>> No.20246766

>>20245340
https://youtu.be/4nyxzsNe84A
Do Nyancat instead

>> No.20246878

>>20246766
Who would be left out this time?

>> No.20246880

>>20246766
I've never seen a bigger "we want the hololive audience" video in my life

>> No.20247063

>>20246880
Expound on this thought anon how is them covering a 2010 internet meme trying to get the hololive audience

>> No.20247123

>>20245340
laugh

>> No.20247177

>>20246880
how?

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>>20243796
aki would never say that! she's used to small digits

>> No.20247206

>>20246766
>nyancat
Here’s a clip of the best version https://youtu.be/ntK5v3PsHW4

>> No.20247260

Any Kara's site is fucking crashing from the voice pack sales, nobody in the nijiEN thread can check out

>> No.20247323

>>20247260
>Voice Pack
More like the attempts to get full sets of clear files

>> No.20247350

>>20247063
>>20247177
Its the exact same thing: show all your talents live2d singing to some older internet viral video, complete with their names/birthdays/heights on screen.

Like even if you don't think its some ripoff or there's any negative about it, it's pretty much a 1:1 equivalent outside of the song choice.

>> No.20247363

>>20247206
post that one Filipino who added himself to it

>> No.20247604

>>20247350
I wonder if they can make cover of Kumikyoku Nico Nico Douga

>> No.20247629

>>20247363
https://youtu.be/S9tGOR0sZcQ
This one?

>> No.20247712

>>20247629
yeah lol, thanks

>> No.20247906

>>20247604
Don't they have to source permission for all of those songs?

>> No.20247966

>>20247906
lol it's over 20 songs from all different kinds of shit including several animes, it'd be fucking impossible

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TOPKEK

>> No.20248224

>>20248090
Her manager did her dirty! (they were all screened beforehand by her, what a prankster)

>> No.20248311

>>20242327
>10k is possible
>inb4 stream overlaps

>> No.20248443

Hinano almost 10k with an Apex stream. Even Benisex above her average as well.

>> No.20248463

>>20248311
White day isn't a 'thing' in NA, 10k was way too high, not sure what they were thinking. Still enjoying the stream.

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Reclining…

>> No.20248512

>>20248471
holy shit koyori's still on

>> No.20248549

>>20248463
Always a new excuse.

>> No.20248565

>>20247604
every holo copied mito then

>> No.20248734

>>20248549
>Some idiot throws out a highball/lowball guess
>OH NO, IT (overshot undershot)!
>Everyone in /#/ is the same person, you're all (falseflaggers/nijiniggers/etc)
Every time.

>> No.20248735

>>20248463
>10k is possible
>didnt GET
>shuffles his cope cards
>inb4 he copy paste niicope list

>> No.20248751

>>20248471
Vspofag winning. You hate to see it

>> No.20248754

anything interesting for today aside from koyori totsu ?

>> No.20248804

>>20247966
Yeah Kumikyoku and Ryuuseigun were only possible in the old NND days when internet was still in its infancy and copyrights were a joke. Nowadays it's not worth the hassle to get bunch of permissions when you only use like 10~20s out of the whole song.

>> No.20248922

>>20248443
Huh. With holofes, this is supposed to be a weak gold month for holos. While nijis already have many reasons for not performing as expected, could we add that VSPO are siphoning nijitourists?

>> No.20249135

>>20248754
Nothing so far, Niji is holding the gold spot for now.

>> No.20249162

>>20248224
Bae's manager is interested in either trolling bae or wanting her to fuck irys.

>> No.20249209

>>20248443
Did VSPO apprentice numberfags learn numbers at the Niji school of lying fucks? She's "almost" at 8k right now and peaked at 9.200. You're really stretching almost 10k's meaning.

>> No.20249267

>>20248754
There's the monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak stream on FBK later tonight I guess? Depending on how many people who opted for her channel instead of the official one it has the potential to get gold.

>> No.20249303

>>20249135
did chinman reach his usual 30k ?

>> No.20249318

>>20248754
ARK raid wirh one(1) saviorfag, 1 Shuba and many Low to mid tiers at Hololive.

>> No.20249371

>>20248443
Beni is making me /become Takeshi.
thank you to vspoanons who spoonfed last thread. Binged a bunch of VSPO clips after that. Gonna check out VODs next.

>> No.20249427

>>20249303
nope, 27.8k, he's getting weaker from streaming too much

>> No.20249583

I know Kronii loves Hollow Knight, but it has to be most poison for numbers game around.

>> No.20249586
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20249586

I think the recent scandals have really soured the fans' affection for Nijisanji.

>> No.20249635

>>20249586
I want to fuck Ratna.

>> No.20249633

>>20249583
Thank God she's finishing it today. With that and Hades FINALLY done...

>> No.20249648

Koyori report, she just finished the supas for the countdown stream, took her almost 4 hours

>> No.20249652

>>20249586
ACCELERATE to the wall

>> No.20249658

>>20249583

I think this is supposed to be her final stream playing it, so.. yay?

>> No.20249687

>>20249586
I don't think so. Nijisanji is a midget legion with a few generals punching at upper holo tiers.
There's a reason people treat luxiem like the second comin of jesus despite them being sub 10k average shitters: that's actually amazing for Nijisanji.

>> No.20249752
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20249752

This Nijisanji guy is even struggling to breakthrough 2k despite still having debut buff.

>> No.20249809

>>20244228
>You're implying that SEA/TW holofans don't agree with the NA view that idol culture is toxic when that's not the case especially in the English-speaking community.
Anon, SEA(not)nig here. Let me tell you that SEA / TW (or Asian in general) are a lot more tolerant towards idol culture than the West. What you are talking about is likely the old 90s idol culture that focused heavily on "purity" (instead of modern idol culture with a lot more varieties) - but that's the kind of standards Asian, especially the "older" generation (those in their 30s or older), grew up with. "No dating until university", "No sex before marriage", "Don't hang out too late with the opposite sex" and similar thing were the norm. Maybe the zoomers are more Westernized nowadays, but in general, Asian are quite used to putting emphasis on the concept of "purity".
Why else do you think idols market is that big in Asia?

>> No.20249840

>>20249687
Yes. As long as they stay out of primetime NA and go for the evening slot that lets SEA/TW watch on lunchbreak.

>> No.20249848

>>20249635
Why did my post appear without me typing it?

>> No.20249855

>>20248224
Gura's manager (also Kiara's) finally got her to sing crazy frog. Pretty funny.

>> No.20249915
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20249915

It's crazy to think people would rather watch Elira sleep than see these people here do their own thing. It goes to show that Nijisanji has failed to contain all the recent scandal's effect on their reputation.

>> No.20249992

>no 10k holoen
Its over…

>> No.20249999

Gura is about to end her members-only karaoke. There are more than 3k unique commenters in that stream (so probably much higher CCV than that), so may see some funnel.

>> No.20250043

Reflect MV March 22

>> No.20250055

Reflect MV coming out March 22nd according to Goomba's member stream.

This might unironically be a good idea and revitalize interest in the song.

>> No.20250103
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20250103

Hinano is just way too entertaining. Vspo girls are just way too good for Nijisanji. Even Hoshikawa is struggling to hit above 5k when she left the Holo box.

>> No.20250118

>>20250043
>>20250055
Right after holofes and she's obviously going to perform it there.

>> No.20250119

>>20249999
>member content
>funnel
This is the most retarded post I've seen today

>> No.20250125

>>20250055
I wonder if it will be shown off at Holofes first and then uploaded as a MV later.

>> No.20250132

>>20249992

it will be a weak day in all for en. vox is not streaming and mysta is playing apex with some twitch vtuber so maybe not even 10k

>> No.20250136

>>20249992
is this prime time EN?
why is haachama streaming right now?

>> No.20250170

>>20250055
>>20250043
>overlap comet
ALL OUT WAR CHUMBUDS. YOUR LIVER HAS SPOKEN

>> No.20250192

weak day for EN numbers
Lets see how Ike and Shu does with the collab
female invovled but also is some horror kusoge.
Not a lot going for EN beside them.

>> No.20250274

>>20250125
That's almost certainly the reason, can't see why she'd be so 'hush hush' sitting on it for so long.

>> No.20250320

>>20250132
https://youtu.be/u2Ap6textK8
overlapping w mysta tho

>> No.20250353
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20250353

Even with the debut buffs, NijiEN can't seem to hit the 7k viewer cap. Is this the effect of Vox's yab?

>> No.20250366

>>20250170
>liver

>> No.20250376

>>20250170
What? Is Suisei releasing a song/MV too?

>> No.20250392

>>20250170
Why are you talking about organs?

>> No.20250412

>>20250353
only luxiem can break that cap or having the other 15 taents streaming

>> No.20250413

>>20250353
Nah, it's just that everyone outside of Luxiem is a shitter.

>> No.20250444

>>20250353
No asian fujos no real market.

>> No.20250448

22nd? Isnt that suisei birthday? So direct clash with whatever song suisei gonna release that day.

>> No.20250497

>>20244501
Doom Eternal is a clear debuff.
Unfortunately the control is too complicated for average gamer.

>> No.20250528

>>20249999
>chumbs
>funnel
>from a fucking member stream
holy shit

>> No.20250549

>>20250170
I don't think she will do her 3D anniversary on that day. Maybe only birthday totsumachi.

>> No.20250596
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20250596

Yugo is extremely disliked by the fans. It's an anomaly considering she's not an offensive person. I think fujos are responsible for this perhaps?

>> No.20250655

>>20250596
Is it because Yugo is a girl?
Waste of a slot for them?

>> No.20250658

>>20250448
Suisei gonna lose anyway.

>> No.20250665

>>20250376
>>20250366
It's been confirmed since her Sololive. Also 22nd is her debut/bday.
More importantly, I'm just shitposting

>> No.20250725

>>20250596
>Woman stole a male slot
Gee I wonder why fujos hate her

>> No.20250747

>>20250655
>Ryuushen
>Masaru

>> No.20250749
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20250749

>>20250655
I think that's the reason. She's not bad but the fans just seem to hate her.
Just look at her decline (picrel)

>> No.20250750

>>20250596
You know how people sperg out that Sana took someone's "spot" in Hololive? Well, Yugo basically makes it so Niji only has 9 dudes instead of 10.

The real question is: why the fuck did they give a woman a male avatar? It doesn't seem to be some sort of deliberate design choice. Did they genuinely not have a good 10th dude to pick? Considering Noctyx are all dogshit, maybe that might be the case.

>> No.20250755

>>20249586
>>20249687
>>20249915
>>20249752
>>20250103
What got under your skin so much seachama; what's causing this tantrum?
>>20250497
Not for Korone imo she has perseverance to get through the tight parts

>> No.20250763

>>20250596
She really should have debuted as a shota
I think that way she would be more tolerable to fujos

>> No.20250765

>>20250596
They hate her because they ain't her

>> No.20250814

>>20250749
>celebration stream among the first streams
will never stop cracking me up

>> No.20250823

>>20250596
I remember there is a market for "ikemen" like girls, like those in anime. Tall, with a deep voice gentlemen like behavior girls.

>> No.20250827

>>20250749
Yugo should ACTUALLY MOVE to NA or EU prime time. He/SHE/it could get at least some male fans.
jps are not interested

>> No.20250843

>>20250750
>10th dude to pick
Bailed and applied to starsEN

>> No.20250906

>>20250843
A plausible scenario

>> No.20250920

>>20250755
Dude, compared to Doom (2016), Eternal is a really busy game.
I know Mr. Koro has experience, but I still think Eternal would still be too much for her.

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>> No.20250965

>>20250750
my guess is only 9 males passed the audition and they already had 10 avatars so they passed one of the females and asked her if she wanted the spot. Noctys was rushed.

>> No.20250998

>>20250750
I still think they only intended one male wave, saw how successful Luxiem was, and called back as many of the people who got reasonably far in the wave 4 auditions as they could. It's entirely possible they couldn't round up 5 passable streamers and filled the 5th spot with someone who had said she was open to playing a male in her audition.

>> No.20251027

>>20250920
it doesnt help the permission autism for it. You need to ask for it in advance. And kroone is a spontaneous girl

>> No.20251061

>>20250929
Very accurate as the comet has spoken to be against playing ARK ever. She will bring an end to Holo ark arc the same way she ended the dinosaurs hundreds of millions of years ago.

>> No.20251110

>>20250843
Maybe that Chimon guy people kept taking about, or "Pearish"? I don't watch male vtubers but I kept seeing those two names tossed around and I guess they didn't turn up in Noctys.

>> No.20251115

>>20250823
Kronii can actually pull something like this if she tries

>> No.20251136

>>20250965
I think it's just difference in taste between TW/CN and JP fujo/yumejo.
JP fujo tolerates female in male character, just look at Takaradzuka Revue.

>> No.20251194

>>20250376
>Is Suisei releasing a song/MV too?
Most likely yes given her track records. Whether she release it on that day is still unknown.

>> No.20251205

>>20250998
Diversity hire. Anycolor Inc. is playing with the big boys corpo club now. Gotta act the part. COVER Corp will follow suit soon. (You) have been warned

>> No.20251212

>>20251110
Pearl is the violet boy

>> No.20251242

>>20251110
>Pearish
He's already in NijiEN as Uki, though

>> No.20251418

>>20251242
>>20251212
he is the borign gay dude?

>> No.20251450

>>20251205
It would be an enormously bad idea, because that person would end up at the dead bottom of the subs and views list barring some miracle, leading to endless circlejerking articles about "Are vtuber fans transphobic?"

>> No.20251489
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20251489

>Kronii's gaming stream couldn't break 4k and beat Ike
>IRyS' zatsu barely broke 1k and lost to Noctyx + Elira + Rosemi sama
Shall >we say... reclining?

>> No.20251499

The funny part is, the bar is so low for StarsEN that 1k-2k ccv would be considered a massive success.

>> No.20251584

oh look, it's the 10 mins into the stream bait again
feels like home

>> No.20251588

>>20251489
This will be posted in the catalog

>> No.20251618

>>20251489
It's an incredibly slow day in general since nobody is even cracking 10k

>> No.20251617

So niji JP gold and NijiEN gold? What a slow day.

>> No.20251689

>>20251617
it's noon jst man

>> No.20251704

>>20249809
as they should. Purity should be the most important thing you should protect.

>> No.20251713

>>20251618
Not even Gura mengen karaoke?

>> No.20251721

>>20251489
Reimu...

>> No.20251743

>>20251115
Yugo is Kronii's case goes into the wrong hands, but I kinda doubt Nijisanji is attractive enough to have Gura, Irys, Mumei and Kronii to consider joining.

>> No.20251751

>>20251489
she wil break 4k but also this is her 9th hollowknight stream
cant get any more debuff than that.
Might incresea to 5k once she is at radiance or count.
Irys has a BIG SCREADING title on screen and sandwiched on overlap so it is expected that will do shit on sc reading. i was epxecting 8k from shu but their game is even more of a debuff than i expected. Also goddam pleasesave petra,millie and reimu. Not even the male colabs help them

>> No.20251787

>>20250170
Well tell my liver to shut up or I'll poison it with more alcohol

>> No.20251797

>>20248512
It's her birthday anon, she wont stop until (YOU) say something nice to her

>> No.20251873

>>20246766
>all nijishits make meme video
>BTFO by nijikiller
what an embarrassment...

>> No.20251897

Is baelz finishing?

>> No.20251963

>>20251751
It only took Kronii 7 months to beat the game

>> No.20251974

>>20250665
Will it be a new orisong or just an MV for one from SSStellar?

>> No.20252019

https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/minatoaqua_aquatimeselect_restock
Only 35 left on stock, somehow the old method of trying to bruteforce numbers into the cart still work here since it's actually limited in stock. Guessing it's just selling the remainder since it's sold ~9700 from the presumed stock of 10k IIRC?

>> No.20252034

>>20250750
They want to copy sutopuri

>> No.20252049

>>20250823
There is, but, unironically, westies consume that more than asian.
Asian fujos want their ikemen totally male, even if later will be feminized by them. NijiEN males only broke into the asian market for fujos, the western fujos, who are open to females crossdressing as males, are still untapped...mostly because their numbers ain't shit next to asian fujos.

>> No.20252063

>>20244501
>and I don't know why
>you can only play it once a week
fuck that

>> No.20252083

>>20252019
Same method works with geekjacket limited stock only.
It looks like 1800 seems to be the default for limited and then 200 set aside for geekjacket.

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This is just too sad. They removed nipple boy and replaced him with Debi. I think at this point they should just terminate him and move on.

>> No.20252106

>>20250596
women dont actually like trannies and its revealed in moments like these
heres another tell: message one with a deep voice "i thought you were a transgender" and see how they react

>> No.20252125

>>20252087
unpersoned...

>> No.20252145

>>20251713
If you know how to count viewers for mengen, then by all means, share your wisdom.

>> No.20252158

>>20251489
>Shall >we say... reclining?
According to my calculation, yes it is indeed a natural recline

>> No.20252166

>>20252087
Guy got fucking unpersoned by Anycolor holy shit.
At least we know what would happen if Vox ever gets into more shit with the Chinese market.

>> No.20252185

>>20250749
>reclining
>still more views than the women playing women
kek

>> No.20252191

>>20252087
I love Debi!

>> No.20252201

>>20252049
I think it's only the CN fujos getting filtered, JP seems has a good grasp of this concept. Consider Yugo is actually a japanese, hopefully she can pander to that market

>> No.20252206

>>20252034
Isn't that satupori guy and actual "female to male" case tho?
Yugo case seems totally different, at least I have not seen doing queer pandering.
I would not be surprised if Noctys was meant to be a mixed wave or, at best, like Edengumi.

>> No.20252220

>>20251489
Ike getting more views than the other 4 Nijis streaming lol. Luxiem really is the only thing those fujos give a shit about. How did they fuck up Noctys so bad? How is fucking Fulgore the only one that even does remotely decent?

>> No.20252231

>>20252087
Holy shit this is so funny.
Nippleman is so cursed ANYCOLOR would rather bring Debi lol

>> No.20252233

>>20252087
Nipplesanji...

>> No.20252235
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20252235

>>20252087
Nipplesanjibros

>> No.20252265

>>20252087
Sasuga burracku campani

>> No.20252296

>>20252206
Yuugo roommate is also FtM if the info is correct.

>> No.20252309

>>20252087
Isn't Debi a married woman?

>> No.20252311

>>20252087
Oof.
Just fucking end him Anykara so it kind of helps your image and all parties could move on. Keeping him without official statements on sanctions was probably the worst move they could make.

>> No.20252340

>search nipplesanji in youtube
>get live elira, ratna and a clip of matuli sperging out over gura
did this susans pajeets default back to niji or did they add nipplesanji to their tags?

>> No.20252351

>>20252309
wasn't the marriage just memes

>> No.20252354

>>20252206
>"female to male"
I dont know what you mean by this. But if you mean that she is a female larping as male then yes

>> No.20252407

Damn, Ina fucked up. I remember somebody posted yesterday that Ina and Fauna were the only HoloENs to have not won EN gold since it started being tracked (other than Sana of course). If Ina played Elden Ring today and got her usual 12k for it should would have probably easily taken the EN gold considering the weak lineup both Holo and Niji have today.

>> No.20252431

>haachama finishes
>none of the current streams incline
Doushite nano desu?

>> No.20252480

>>20252407
I think Ina and Fauna also suffers from low ceiling, despite having a very high floor in EN.

>> No.20252519

>>20252354
>larping
Anon, the FtM shit is when the girl actually feels is a man inside a girl. It usually leds to the transition to tranny, but zoomers barely reach to that part.

>> No.20252523

>>20252296
No Yugo is through and through a woman playing a man. Uki is the one that's suspected to be ftm

>> No.20252544

>>20252431
Pink dog is the only jap streaming and she's like 5 hours deep in some kind of chatting stream? I can see most of Haachama's fans just fucking off. Not sure how many EOPs were watching her stream in JP on the JP server, but it's probably negligible enough you wouldn't see any bumps for the others.

>> No.20252545

>>20252407
Is Mumei really going to win EN Gold with less than 9k? lmao

>> No.20252601

I always forget just how low IRyS floor can be.

>> No.20252602

>>20252523
Uki sounds like a regular fag. Pretty convincing voice if that's actually a woman.

>> No.20252616

>>20252545
Can we start counting Admiral Bahroo on Twitch again?

>> No.20252624

>>20252354
Fuck off mate.

>> No.20252628

>>20252544
koyo was reading the superchats for the birthday countdown and is currently reading the ones for today asakoyo, they've had her trapped for 5 hours

>> No.20252644

>>20251489
GURA MOGGED
>GURA MOGGED
GURA MOGGED
>GURA MOGGED

>> No.20252645

>>20252523
>The kpopfag is the suspected tranny
Like pottery

>> No.20252664

>>20252407
No one cares anon, EN gold is stupid, but "gold" in general is stupid. Ina is one of the strongest average CCV EN vtubers on the market, and not in that meme "everyone in NijisanjiEN and HoloEN are among the top" way, but as in, actually one of the strongest NijiEN/HoloEN streamers.

>> No.20252675

>>20252519
FtM is also incredibly likely to detranny than kill themseves. Women discover that life as a strange-looking manlet is fucking hard mode. Then they do what weak men do and become a woman

>> No.20252681

>>20252628
This pink dog is too principledg for her own sake

>> No.20252736

>>20243625
Miko has at least 1 US gachikoi

>> No.20252744

>>20252125
Unnippled even...

>> No.20252747

>>20252601
She's slowly crawling up. Probably will settle around 2k? Got some bumps when she started talking about wanting to release dakimakura but decided not to instead of Jojo

>> No.20252757

>>20252644
Among these streams that couldn't pass Gura's 3k member stream should just graduate.

>> No.20252778

Where's ratio anon? I wanna know Gura's member CCV

>> No.20252783

Jesus how bad did management fuck irys over.
She's going to release a cover she recorded before debut in May.

>> No.20252804

>>20252544
I'm surprised she even got to 5.5k
Would've been lovelier if she got to 6k but that's fine, close enough
Do haachama's fans just not watch anyone else?

>> No.20252907

>>20252804
I'm watching haachama and Koyori.
also watching bae on another pc

>> No.20252959
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20252959

Chigusa...
I really hate Nijisanji for mismanaging her career. She currently has the lowest CCV for Nijisanji at this moment.

>> No.20252989

>>20252907
Good fucking taste

>> No.20252996

>>20252519
>>20252624
Welp, never knew nor care about this whole stuff. It's all mental illness in the end

>> No.20253004

>>20252783
Welcome to Hololive EN
>Gura’s cover with matsuri recorded in October 2020 and released at the very end of March 2021
>HoloMyth cover of country roads recorded in October/November 2020, released in May 2021, every Myth member hates it with a passion and for no reason would not let them re-do lines after getting singing lessons
>Myth-Made original released after New Years after they explicitly said they did not want to be held down by management anymore and want to take the reigns instead
This is the management you get from this retarded ass side of things

>> No.20253023

Is Gura's member stream getting EN Gold?

>> No.20253130

>>20245340
I'd consider it a kneel to HoloEN.

I'd be happy if they performed shiny smiley story as well.

>> No.20253167

>>20253004
Everyday I pray for the new head of EN to be even a little competent.
That said, isn't A-chan introducing a new manager on April?

>> No.20253184

>>20252407
I like how Bae got a lot of EN gold last month. I think Ina should at least get some this month. With Fauna, for sure she will get one with her upcoming bday stream.

>> No.20253202

>>20253004
Who responsible for this whole shit? Can they have someone like Shinove or A-chan?

>> No.20253237

>>20253023
Download the chatlog and upload it so we can see how many chumbuds participated in the chat, then

>> No.20253245
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20253245

What the fuck is this shady shit? How convenient that someone who never streams and is doing nothing that would make an actual human being think "Yeah, I want to sub to this person right now." is still managing to gain EXACTLY 1000 subs every few days. People like to complain about YouTube culling real subs but it's clear that they have an actual bot problem with fake subs being added constantly.

>> No.20253253

>>20253167
There will be a new manager, but it's not entirely clear what their role will be. It's possible that they have nothing to do with EN.

>> No.20253257

>>20252523
> actual trannies may have infiltrated vtubing
god damnit can you abominations not find your own hobbies?!

>> No.20253256

The views all around just keep getting worse these last 2 months

>> No.20253327

>>20252087
Do you have the original with Nippleboy?

>> No.20253352

I like chatting streams and IRyS is one of the best in EN at them (3rd behind only Gura and Bae in my opinion) but they are such numbers poison. Why can't she just play Elden Ring back to back like Ina? Her playthrough has gotten good numbers for her.

>> No.20253355

>>20253245
You got proof those are all bots then anon?

>> No.20253411

>>20253256
weren't march and april also trash the last couple of years

>> No.20253437

>>20253245
That isn't bots you dolt. That is just the bare minimum power of the Hololive box when the actual streamer is putting in 0 effort on their end.

>> No.20253438

>>20253245
>tourist checked out holo
>like it and became newfag
>H-hey guys, what do i do to fit in a-and who should i watch?
>watch everyone and sub to everyone untill you settle for your oshi

>> No.20253441

>>20253355
If they aren't bots then why is the number exactly 1000?

>> No.20253471

>>20253441
retardchama...

>> No.20253488
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20253488

>>20253355
Why even respond to such obvious bait

>> No.20253489

>>20253352

chatting streams are not the problem, it's the 'reading supers' part. it kills everyone ccv. mumei and bae can get 6/5k on a random zatsu but if there's any mention of 'SC' they get like 2k

>> No.20253492

>>20252602
>fag voice
>rumored FtM
If the rrats are true, then she already went through the transition process and is now a full time tranny.

>> No.20253501

>>20253202
Watch them give StarsEN another Shinove and HoloEN gets stuck with another Omega.

>> No.20253508

>>20253202
Good fucking luck. Kind people like A-chan and all three of the homos managers are surprisingly hard to find

>> No.20253526

>>20253438 (me)
Or
>sanalites saw Nijinigger's leak
>seethe and boting her subs

>> No.20253542

>>20253245
>le bots
Of course anon! Just like Yagoo deployed an army of bots to sub to Rushia's channel after he terminated her.

Cope harder, because the real answer is way simpler: people find some Sana clip/video and just sub to her channel. She was literally on a stream yesterday.

>> No.20253543

>>20253441
C'mon bro. How long have you been in here?

>> No.20253548

>>20253256
>Views getting worse
>Meanwhile JP inclining to the moon
The problem have always been EN being extremely boring

>> No.20253564

>>20253441
Are you really this new?

>> No.20253643

>>20253245
>is still managing to gain EXACTLY 1000 subs every few day
Anon, 1k is the minimum sub increment Playboard tracks, so that +1k is actually more than 1k and is the sum of several days' sub gains

>> No.20253645

>>20253508
>>20253501
Man... i swear to god, it's like their producer/management is/are always on a mission to sabotage them. Did riku manage to plant his agent?

>> No.20253664

>>20253245
Eh accusing them as bots is stretching it a bit too far. The most plausible explanation is the 'box magic'. When someone who's not familiar with Vtuber in general stumbled upon one of the holo girls and they ended up liking it, they're most likely to go mass sub into channels in close relation with that one channel they watched.

>> No.20253701

>>20253489
It's a culture thing. En watchers ESPECIALLY are highly allergic to SC reading streams and advertising it was such is sure to drive all but the most diehard of watchers away.

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20253706

>>20253548

>> No.20253772

>>20253645
I think it says a lot when none of the talents have any respect for Omega. Contrast that with the utmost respect A-chan and Shinove get from their respective branches.

>> No.20253867

>>20253772
It helps that A-chan and Shinove is really visible on social media.
Omega interaction on twitter is one-off banter with talent, and promoting shit that's already out on main channel.

>> No.20253905

>>20253701
I started to enjoy them later on when HoloEN got better at making them zatsudans.

>> No.20253939

>>20253867
And their borderline schizo lore shits. Who even hired this fucker?

>> No.20253944

>>20253701
I mean in many ways its the asians that are the fucking weirdos
>hory shetto she is aboutto say "arigato listener san" for 2 hours, you sonnuva bitch i'm in

>> No.20253947

>>20252959
Going up against Nui's tits with the same game is a tough matchup.

>> No.20253975

>>20253905
Oh, don't get me wrong I've definitely enjoyed the ones that I've had on when there's not much else to watch, but ask most viewers if they want to see "Superchat reading (and Zatsu) vs anything else, and most people will pick 'anything else'

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>>20251489
What now, Nijinigger kun? Your big group mega collab can't get a single POV to a measily 7k (bad Kronii numbers)

>> No.20254025

I'm going to go sleep, these numbers so far today are boring, everything over 10k started just after midnight lol

>> No.20254031

>>20253944
No you retard. Good conversationist like Pekora or Kiara are able to turn SC reading into impromptu zatsudan.

>> No.20254082

>>20253701
Okay hold on, SC readings drop offs are not just a culture thing. If anything, I’d be willing to be ENs have far better ratios than JP regarding this. I think what you’re likely conditioned to are streamers like Watame who’re notorious for spending numerous hours chatting with their stream, so SC readings start to become no different than chatting streams. But there’ve been many cases of streamers just plummeting to nothing once one starts. Rushia used to get 3-4k for SC readings and Kanata from my memory used to drop down to 2-3k, and those were Holos who were consistently hitting 10-14k. And doesn’t Chloe at this point get 2-3k for SC readings despite being a human wallet at this point?

I just think SC readings drive people away because a lot have this perception that it’s just a thank-you fest. Which sucks since a lot of times it really is discussion based streams

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>>20253939
He's the first staff member of HoloEN (according to himself) so he was already on staff and got the job by being there at the right time.
The director here has Omega's way of talking about lore.
https://grapee.jp/en/169910

>> No.20254112

>>20253947
Nui finished Mother 2 two days ago. She's playing Octopath now, part 2 in 55 minutes.

>> No.20254121

>>20253004
I feel you are understimated how lazy some of these girls can be...or how lex luthor they can be
>Gura and Matuli cover
That falls mostly on Matsuri side since it was om her channel
>Country Roads cover
Yeah, that was random and I can see why they hate it BUT considering in the Ochame Kinou cover the expected member got their voices heavily edited...I would not be surprised if management thought the improvement was not enough to re-edit it and may had 'caused some shit.
>Getting free from management
Yeah but they had their free will to do whatever they want as individuals, within management boundaries, since the start.
>Kiara releasing OG song, covers and sponsors
>Same with Mori
>Same with Ina
>Ame with the whole 3D stuff
Management fuck up seems only on grup stuff and game perms. Otherwise the girls are on their own stuff without much problem...unless you are Mori begging for le funny popo man collab for weeks despite getting a no.

>> No.20254150

>>20254012
Where is your IRyS and Mumei's numbers? Do you truly feel good seeing Holos funneling everything into one stream and couldn't break 8k still? Niji's viewers are split more evenly between Shu and Ike

>> No.20254282

>>20254082
It is an entirely fair misconception. Unless you actually stick around to listen, some talents like Bae, IRyS and Kiara are able to turn them into great zatsus. But you have to stick around to get to the that point in the first place

>> No.20254322

>>20254121
Nah I legitimately think most of this is shit from management. Kiara talked about her debut one time, I don’t know if there’s a clip of it, but she said how management was legitimately angry/frustrated at her because she wanted to release with an original. Essentially, they were like burdened with providing that opportunity to her and that got her scolded. So I actually do feel like there’s a lot of reasons for why the members/fans would at least be discontent with them

>> No.20254324

>>20254121
>management thought the improvement was not enough to re-edit it and may had 'caused some shit
I can actually see this as something that had happened...the girls started to be more vocal about their disagreement with manager ever since Country Roads cover dropped

>> No.20254340

>>20254150
Gonna cry, nigger? Now context matters but it didn't when you were posting your image and shouting reclining, huh?

>> No.20254448

>>20254282
Yeah. Kiara in particular will turn an SC reading into a weekly journal of just blurting out every thing happening in life and bouncing off well with her chat. And Irys is an insanely good speaker. Same with Fauna. Fuck I guess most of EN really is great during SC readings, maybe it would be good if there was more “chat with me” approaches, kind of like Mumei’s rant stream that trailed into an SC reading if I remember that right

>> No.20254459

>>20254082
Gura barely loses any viewers for SC reading, but I guess Youtube put a soft cap on her CCV, so it's hard to tell.

>> No.20254484

>>20254150

Ike and Shu are doing quite good but everyone else seems kinda meh. Elira barely got 2k, Petra and Reimu sub 1k..

>> No.20254487

>>20254322
As always with Kiara's stories I feel like there's a lot of important information missing.

>> No.20254529

>>20254322
>if there’s a clip
If there was then then it may had been gone forever due the recent clipbait fallout.
But a lot of pre debut and debut stuff has changed tho.
I remember Kiara also once said she actually planned to be a full seiso idol until she streamed MK.

>> No.20254564

>>20254448
This happens pretty regularly with Mumei. SC reading is an excuse to talk about random shit.

>> No.20254585

>>20254459
It will never not be funny seeing Gura stream to “12-14k”, go to SC reading and drop down to 11-10k and remain there for a good 30 minutes. It’s a testament to how dedicated her fans are and how stupid Youtube might just be

>> No.20254621

>>20254322
I'm wondering what the last straw was to look for a new head producer.
I can't really think of one particular instance.
>>20254529
That was right after Marine had a 2 hour call with her after she had a breakdown on stream. It seemed to have shifted her towards the right direction.

>> No.20254624

>>20254459
Gura's SC reading is also a clippers gold mine consider she picked what she reads pretty carefully, and the ones sent SC also knows the message need to catch her attention. It's like a strong cycle, people are more willing to stay because they treat it as a part 2 of the show.

>> No.20254749

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1503582859876978689?s=21
>Hololive
>Doing something for HoloEN
They’ve been watching our threads haven’t they…

>> No.20254812

>>20254749
This has been going on for quite a while, last one left is Kiara I think?

>> No.20254815

>>20254529
>recent clipbait fallout
Hmm?

>> No.20254827

>>20250596
It's the same reason Lain is the most hated eden member.

>> No.20254859

>>20254484

Collabs with Luxiem and the girls are always like that. Remember Kuzuha and Multi-POV collabs for NijiJP? It's the same

>> No.20254888

>>20254749
Meh, call me when they get some high tier sponsors. Myth has done plenty of interviews and con appearances.

>> No.20254896

>>20254827
Wait, really?
I remember a few weeks after Edengumi debut and seeing Lain stream with 20k something number.

>> No.20254919

>>20254815
Kami subs basically got gutted for doing Kiara drama clip bait (The [SERIOUS] clipper).

>> No.20254935

New Thread >>20254866

>> No.20254996

>>20254896

I mean, pretty sure Lauren was getting 20k+ for his first Apex streams. Debut buff was at full power

>> No.20255139

Huh, is it me or did Myth and Council tried to attract more KR viewers lately?

>> No.20255184

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1k5AHTvqHg Something about Mother 2 absolutely murders numbers

>> No.20255211

>>20255139
Well yes and no. A huge influx of Koreans notices them after the Ame Watson incident. Some of them are just naturally responding to some KRs showing up in their chats, others are pandering hard (Kiara, Bae).

>> No.20255290

>>20255184
i mean even korosan, who's known for playing old games and mother 2 being one of her favorite games, got like a 6k on part 4 of it, not a very good stream game

>> No.20255310

>>20254459
You can see this with any of them. If you read superchats after your gaming content you are more likely to hold your viewers. Take Bae for example today. She hit around 6k for the stream and then held onto 3.7k for the superchat portion. However, if she just did a superchat reading stream she would have not broken 2k.

Instead of doing isolated superchat reading streams they should just read the superchats after the gaming content. Gura always does this and so do JPs like Miko who also has very high retention.

>> No.20255333

>>20255211
also
>Mumei with KR Duolingo stream
And I just heard IRyS trying to speak korean.
Are they testing the market right now or i'm reading into it too much

>> No.20255351

>>20255184
>>20255290
Despite the charm, it's still an rpg.

>> No.20255460

>>20252019
>>20252083
The old method works but it's tedious

>> No.20255466

>>20255351
Not just that, but it's one that doesn't have the 'classic jrpg that Japan loves' buff to counteract the debuff nature of rpgs.

>> No.20255509

>>20255466
Even at burger hours all of the Earthbound lovers turned out to be an extremely loud and small minority

>> No.20255639

>>20255333
If the other branches also start pandering to koreans, that's when you should start worrying

>> No.20255644

>>20255509
Yes.
It's a cult classic, but that's it. Just a cult classic. More people probably became aware of earthbound (Mother 2) through Smash than have ever played the games.

>> No.20255743

>>20255139
>>20255211
>>20255333
Not that any one person in particular should ever get big recognition but:
https://youtube.com/channel/UC2fvhDgem6GHbeUgSog-LZg
I genuinely hope they appreciate everything origogi has done for EN. He’s single handedly brought a pretty sizable KR audience into the picture with his clip translations and releases some hilarious stuff for them. Also was the one who uploaded Gura’s galaxy karaoke cover and did a fantastic job with the vid.
https://youtu.be/mfzo8NqHaYE

>> No.20255766

>>20255509
People in the west like the idea of Earthbound but they don't actually want to watch or play it.

>> No.20255809

>>20255639
Would you say that Korea is a good or bad market for Hololive to break into? I know Nijisanji's attempts didn't do very well

>> No.20255812

>>20255766
hey, that sounds like a certain branch

>> No.20255842

>Pink dog finally finishes with SC reading
Almost 7 hours stream, and that's on top of her late night stream last night. And incoming Totsumachi.
What kind of energy source is this pink dog running on?
is it meth?
Koyori is cooking meth in her lab isn't she?

>> No.20255901

>>20255809
The question will be whether open a branch for KR, or having more future members to aim at KR market in EN. Might be a way for StarEN to incline.

>> No.20255955

>>20255743
Be silent Korean clipfag, no one will ever be thankful to you doing your end of a symbiotic relationship. There's views to be mined from Hololive, don't pretend you're some charity channel

>> No.20255998

>>20255809
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RGzQ6zuSJRA
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/YKhbP57HVNo
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/tHf1Qm3C9M8
Peep the SCs in each of these. Also the chat speed in the 3rd one.
I’m almost positive there’s potential to have a giant audience, and I think that stems from Hololive to already be a proven success, and a massive one at that

>> No.20255999

>>20255809
I thought they did decently despite being mismanaged by management?
At least compared to ID branch

>> No.20256013

>>20255809
Korea is the land of the idols, dancing and singers are ever-present and are much better to work with that the chinese. Yagoo can easily get 1-2 Singer/Dancers into HoloKR 1 and fit the other 3 spots with gamers or entertainers.

>> No.20256157

Why does it feel like Lazulight and Obysidia are getting tired of streaming? That they don't enjoy streaming anymore or trying to pretend they like being in Niji? They stream everyday, but isn't rewarded. Now that Luxiem exists, clealy favoritism exists and anycolor had noticed them more than the others.

>> No.20256213

>>20256157
I think you pretty much answered your own question anon

>> No.20256220

>>20256157
welcome to the nijisanji experience, it was bound to happen, someone has to be the 50 shitters to pad total numbers

>> No.20256291

>>20256157
Wouldn't part of it just be burn out?
Lazulight has been streaming non-stop for almost a year.

>> No.20256302

>>20256157
>>20256213
>>20256220
new schizos?

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