/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2015189
Ollie is a good girl. I think she will unironically resuscitate the power of friendship.

>>2015189
Inb4 the suspension

Zombie is gone...

vshojo... away!

>>2015189
There never really was any purityfagging, only falseflagging.

>>2015189
I can feel the graduation in the air

Take your fucking meds if you think she'll get punished at all for saying this.

>>2015502
At worst she'll be asked to not talk about it again and even then probably not.

>>2015545
rrat

>>2015395
Don't lie to yourself anon-kun.

Ollie's based as always.

This is why ID and Ollie are better than EN. Those cowards at EN won't say anything that could get them bonked by management, it's why people get the feeling all their content is extremely sanitized. ID girls have a lot more freedom to talk to whomever they want and say what they think about various things.

>>2015567
It must really be bizarre world when "The reasonable idea based on a history of similar scenarios" is called the rrat.

>>2015189
>literal pornstar group
>so wholesome ^_^
Yeah this shit is gonna end up taking over vtubers eventually. Back to romcom manga it is for me if that's the case. If i wanna see trashy i would just turn on the TV, i watch vtuber to get away from that shit.

>>2015189
Holy shit. I don't really care about VShojo girls or watch them but it's pretty fucking based how she manages to live rent free inside this entire board's head by simply being reasonable.

>>2015644
ID's management don't care.
EN's management wants to be the first to graduate a girl for reasons other than physical or mental health.

>>2015189
If Ollie manages to break down the walls and start collabing with EN vtubers I'll kneel the hardest I've ever done. I'm certain there's some rule against Hololive members specifically interacting with AT LEAST Melody because of the Coco thing, but the girls can definitely collab with outside vtubers. The early gens have Nijis and and the Stars, and Suisei/Roberu have collabed with the VOMs girls a lot. If anyone can do it, it's Ollie

>>2015666
Nice trips but Melody is the only one who does porn and she is somehow makes wholesome porn.

>>2015657
>The reasonable idea based on a history of similar scenarios
Anonchama the only other Holo girl who ever mentioned VShojo was Polka and I don't think she got in any trouble for that.

What's exactly "dangerous" about the vshojo group?

>>2015686
Nice rrat. But if most of the EN girls are such irresponsible children they can't think for themselves about anything so they need to be constantly monitored and controlled for their own safety, then they hired the wrong people.

>>2015773
something something western values is my only summation

>>2015545
this

>>2015717
>that's what we became vtubers to break all the rulers
No?

>>2015644
Idma is clearly way lighter about this stuff compared to the EN managers. Enma is a paranoid skitzomaniac who doesn't even allow in-house collabs.

>>2015263
She is the real mc in hololive world

>>2015721
>Anonchama the only other Holo girl who ever mentioned VShojo was Polka
No, Coco mentioned Melody after her original controversy in an episode of Asacoco I believe. Coco mentioned later that the management told her not to talk about Melody again in her streams but she wasn't punished, more of management saying "Yeah let's keep her off limits"

>>2015189
Purityfags are fucking retarded, Melody, despite being a giant slut, is actually more

how old is Ollie? she's so genuine and innocent, not in a seiso way but in a down to earth teen kind of way
i really enjoy her energy

>>2015189
She can join Vshojo after graduating, smart to cover that base

>>2015717
She's a hore but i like her for some reason
I can't even explain it
She is like this autistic high school slut you liked to talk to and she appreciated it because you were almost the only one who didn't want to immediately fuck her.

>>2015773
It has literal pornstars in there. Yagoo isn't gonna like that if he wants to expand the brand.

>>2015853
And? VShojo wasn't even a thing when that happened. Plus Melody doesn't represent the entire group.

Seisofaggotry is cancerous but we have to draw the line somewhere right? Like I don't give a shit if they've dated but I draw the line at Froot.

>>2015263
You guys think any mildly quirky girl is the most awesome girl ever

>>2015773
Theres one girl that does camgirl stuff with her avatar on a separate website that has nothing to do youtbe I guess, oh and a pink cat.

>>2015189
Guys, this is it. I don't think I can support her anymore. The last week has just been too much for me...

>>2015773
I'm sure other anons can explain it better, but I think the main issue is that they are "too western" for everyone, and for some reason, are more close to the dreaded e-thot kind of girls.

She's just prepping you for when she fucks Astel live on stream.

>>2015944
No anon, if you don't want Hololive to turn into a show with literal pornstars and a vtuber version of Call Her Daddy, you are a prude or some shit.

Dropped

I don't understar why when people talk about yab vshoujos they always go for Melody or Nyanners when theres waaay worse people like Zent''can't stop talking about politics''treya and that abomination called Hime. Jesas Melody is not even bad, her and Mouse interactions are pure fucking gold.

Never liked her

>>2015946
If you would spent some time around actual women you would quickly realize that you can use many words to describe modern females and wholesome is not one of them.
Majority of vgirls are unironically spergs among femoids
80% of them would probably never started streaming if not for the virtual avatar they hide behind

>>2015395
Anon after 2015 4chan got filled to the brim with unironic mental illness.

>>2016100
>2015
fuck off

>>2016080
Nigga im saying ollie could be doing meth mid stream but because she is kind of quirky you would all be "omg so cute".

>>2015644
Mori got herself bonked multiple times over this shit.

>>2016152
>could be doing meth mid stream
As long as she would've a good trip i wouldn't complain

>>2016131
No you fuck off newfag not even the endless newfag summer of 2009 was as bad as 2014-2015.

Ollie is a pee pee poo poo vtuber, so this is not really surprising

>>2016157
This
EN management is fucking retarded
They are probably some western faggots that got into management positions in Japan by some miracle

>>2015189
Vshojo will never collab with Hololive in any meaningful way because they're e-thots with no personality outside of "le peepeepoopoo sex"

>>2016131
>what was gamer gate

>>2015670
Imagine thinking inviting Western disease is reasonable.

>They should collab with EN
Anyone who says this is just trying to force shit on the girls, the only one who actually wants to collab is Mori.

I don't care what she does but if she suddenly makes these leeches and vwhores ask for collabs from the EN girls I hope to god she graduates

>>2016259
OK but Ollie wants to be friendly with them and not have spergs threaten her life over it. If you think that is an exaggeration, then you don't know how schizo idolfags can be.

>>2016317
Hololive already crossed that boundary when they opened an EN branch.

>>2015930
>Plus Melody doesn't represent the entire group.
Yes, she does you fucking imbecile. Every single talent holds equal representation of the group they represent. How one behaves affects the entire group.

>>2015773
>cheater
>grifter
>dude
>generic ethot
>actual whore
i dunno anon

I thought Calli was bad, but clearly she's been reined in. Ollie is taking it to a whole other level. Unironically hope she graduates.

>>2015988
Astel being raped by Ollie stream when?

>>2016365
It's not an exaggeration at all, I'm just saying she stands to gain nothing by publicly associating with a group she'll never have a professional relationship with and the smart move would just be friendly in DMs.

>>2016338
I don't care what she does for herself but why does she have to rope HoloEN into this?

>>2016370
You can contain them when they're under your employ, as EN has clearly been. Try to be less obtuse.

>>2016372
Of course, anon, of course! Melody represents the entire group and she's a camwhore so it only makes sense that Nyanners is also a camwhore, since they are both part of VShojo right? Kizuna Ai invited a camwhore to her concert. Isn't that crazy? Polka praised a camwhore's Live2D on OHAPOL, isn't that yabai?
Take your fucking meds you colossal retard.

I don't know why you anons are angry about this. It just makes it easier to decide who not to sub to

>>2016033
>Zent''can't stop talking about politics''treya
Because literally nobody watches Zen

>Hime
Himes still pretty new, and gets a lot of shit anyway

I think it boils down to how naive and impressionable Ollie is right now. Imagine going from a relative nobody to someone who's part of the most recognizable vtuber company. Of course any semblance of kindness from people she was previously a fangirl of is going to feel great. She's either going to continue down this happy path and keep making friends, or get jaded when e-celebs aren't as unconditionally nice as she thinks.

>>2015686
*blocks your path*

>>2016459
why do you nyannersfags seethe so much?

>we are going to go through this same fucking bullshit of people losing their spaghetti over vshoujo collabs that will never actually happen when HoloEN 2 debuts

>>2016498
I never watched a single Nyanners stream my entire life you dumb fuck.

>>2016259
>confirmation bias

>>2016486
Ollie mindbreak arc

SOON

>>2015657
ogey

The day jp vtubers collab with en vtubers I will be free from this shithole. Hurry up and make it happen already.

>>2016486
I agree, considering how much she replies to indies. Plus she basically likes anything with her name on it on twitter, including a BTS stream

>was naive enough that she was about to become a Hentai VA before she joined Hololive
you know Ollie is exactly what everyone feared what EN would be but the reason is cause she's unironically a stupid young teen

>>2016459
Melody's behavior affects the reputation of the group overall. It doesn't mean her being a camwhore literally means another member is also a camwhore, you dumb, waste of air.
This is exactly the poison of Westerners that I'm talking about. Breathtaking stupidity.

I just like the sickly girl that can sing good.
Why do you fucks like to be so unga bunga cave tribe?

>vshojo
>wholesome
She needs to look that word up.

>>2016549
Anon... I....

>>2016527
>mad vshojo brony

>>2016628
we're just playing mad libs at this point

>>2016486
Yagoo needs to replace Idma, and she needs to smack some sense into Ollie.

>>2016549
abayo

>>2016515
>defends someone he doesnt even watch in a site she publically denounced
absolutely rich

Hey tree rat bring the meeds we need all of them over here.

>>2016601
No but you seem to imply that VShojo should now considered to be a taboo subject among Hololive because "Melody" is associated with them, yet this wasn't the case with Polka who went on to promote them on twitter and even namedropped Nyanners & Froot on stream.
I'm not being stupid you fags are just blowing shit out of proportion as you always do. The collab restriction might be real but mentioning them isn't.
https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1352399871085436929/photo/1

>>2016459
If we talk about personality
Melody isn't that bad...pink cat on other hand...

>>2016506
Ever thought that the reason it's still not happening is because people still care about gatekeeping the Western infection?

Why wont she join Vshojo then? Hololive was built on what it is, it's not there for you to join and change the rules to your liking. Gura probably thinks the same way as her old friends said the same things in the same timeframe.

>>2016734
arguing with schizos on basketweaving forums and social media is not gatekeeping

>Good vtubers
Melody
Ironmouse

>Objectively bad vtubers
Zentreya
Hime
Silvervale

>Only hated because of their past
Nyanners
Froot

>>2016675
>throwing examples is defending someone
This is average sheepposter brain.

>>2015773
Members of vshojo
>Nyatasha Nyanners - ex4chan/tumblrette feminazi, queen of peepeepoopoo, best singer
>Projekt Melody - chaturbate pornstar, nice girl probably took a lot of drugs as a kid, glue that holds vshojo together
>Silvervale - VRchat ERPer, the most dedicated to the vtubing,
>Zentreya - the only one good at games, actually man hiding behind text-to-speech
>Ironmouse - Puerto Rican bubble girl, easily the most wholesome but likewise the least talented
>Hime Hajime - newest member, big boobed avatar wife of Gigguk, smells of nepotism and it feels more like she wants to ERP than be a vtuber
>Apricot/Froot - claims to be English, some side drama

>>2016778
only one that wouldn't cause a meltdown
>Ironmouse
Melody is not retarded but her being a camwhore is the reason Cover said no to her and Coco collabing

>>2016778
>Good idol vtuber
Ironmouse

>Entertaining vtuber
Melody

>Entertaining ethot
Silvervale

>Not entertaining ethot
Hime.

>Forget she exists tier
Froot

>Actually a man tier
Zentraya

>Tumblrt Feminazi
Nyanners

>>2016755
Cause she needs the money and she's nothing without Hololive

>>2016789
see
>>2016601

>>2016830
>the only one that wouldn't cause a meltdown is the most emotional and unscripted girl
10 minutes into a HololivexVshojo collab she would accidentally say vagina and penis 10 times each. (actually accidentally)
I love mouse but she would absolutely cause a drama.

>>2016731
You seem to think I have a positive view of Polka after that. I don't. Has she mentioned them since? I hope not. I hope Cover isn't that fucking off the ball.

>>2016776
Being an anti and giving them shit for it is.

>>2016872
Not even my post. What are you implying here?

>>2015267
By who? holoID?
They don't give a shit. If she was HoloEN then heads would roll.

>>2016908
>implying anti and schizos are separate

>>2016875
>inb4 the only good vshojo retires

>>2016796
factual,

>>2016908
go somewhere else

>>2016938
>missing the point completely

>>2016731
>>2016892
My clown wife doesn't get a single word of English, she was only talking superficially of them, wanting to give the english vtuber scene some spotlight to her JOP fanbase.
Basically she didn't quite know what she was talking about and everything was in good faith and I love her and don't shitpost about her you niggers

>>2015189
How long until Mel sends her one of her vibrators?

The only good one is ironmouse, and she can get away with most stuff because she's literally dying.

>>2016953
That's exactly what I would like the Western creators to do.

>>2015644
Probably because EN management is objectively shit and a staple reason why you don't have Americans manage a Japanese brand.

>>2016242
>He still thinks they're in Japan
10 bux EN management are Californians who hate everything about Japan.

>>2016974
I hope so anon. I'd hate to think badly of Polka just because of some western niggers

>>2016033
I think it's generally agreed that Melody and Mousey are genuinely good girls and it's unfortunate that they hang out with the rest.

Nyanners is a SJW
Zen is a man
Froot is a cheater and a scammer
Then there's the other one no one seems to talk about.

>>2016959
And my point is that most """"gatekeeping"""" is just basically retards arguing over pointless shit that can literally be solved if people ignored it or is just some retarded posturing that actually accomplishes nothing.

Actual gatekeeping involves setting ground rules, reporting and banning people for breaking rules, and most people can't be assed to even do that much

>>2016033
People only bag on Melody because she's pro-sex and that's worse than murder to the feeble Americans who browse this board.
Froot scamming the shit out of vulnerable people is lower on the totem pole than showing a virtual tit on stream.

>>2016974
This, Polka doesnt know the problem most people have with Vshojo is political.
Something that cant really be discussed in this board anyway.

>>2016497
Failure to debut isn't a graduation.

>If the Vtuber I like interacts with one I don't like her personality and content will change completely and she'll become a slut!
>Only I can control with whom she interacts with. I'm going to harass her until she understands this!

lmao
You cunts better be ironic shitposting.

>>2017035
spoonfeed me on Froot

how does Matsuri get away with talking about pp vagene?

I hope Melody and Ollie have a raunchy crossover stream to spite purityfags

>>2017195
she doesnt

>>2017195
bc she's cute and funny

>>2016033
>Melody or Nyanners
Melody is a chaturbate pornstar.
I lik her and she is very positive but that's not very brand safe. You want the holo girls to get permissions to games and delas and be successful you can't have them run around with actual porn stars. Japan is not New Vegas.
Nyanners is very talented but she used to run with the tumblr crowd, everything tumblr touches turns to shit, we don't want to see that effect on the hologirls
>that abomination called Hime
Maybe if she can stream without getting banned for ERPing too hard we can see if there is anything else but nepotism at play there.

>>2017221
>Melody is a chaturbate pornstar.
Several of the holos did voices in ero VNs.

>>2017113
This happened with a vtuber I liked. It didn't change her content completely, but it did change her content in a negative way.

>>2017040
You know how there are cases where a university administration bends to the will of a bunch of students making a ruckus? The students have no ability to set any rules or execute any policy within the university. But by making some noise, they get the admins to do what they want anyway.

>>2017243
Not as their current selves.
(discussing their past lives is against the rules anon, you may get banned for mentioning it)
Melody the VTUBER has an active porn career.

>>2017243
Not the same thing as having your actual model and character doing porn

>>2017195
Matsuri gets away with a lot
She was basically unofficial Niji for the longest time.

>>2017243
Roomate shit isnt the same as in character stuff

>>2017271
>(discussing their past lives is against the rules anon, you may get banned for mentioning it)
Hilarious, half of this board is literally nothing but that.
>Not the same thing as having your actual model and character doing porn
Better not look up some of Haato's streams, then.

>>2017195
Matsuri gets away with flirting with randos on stream. And by randos I mean dudes with actual penises and balls.

>>2015189
https://youtu.be/ocP-rNdn12w
Ironmouse will always be an idol in my eyes. She just fell to a different crowd.

>>2017269
and pray, how tell, is arguing with fucking retards going to help with that? Please, tell me o' gatekeeping expert

>>2017334
Your whataboutisms are not impressive.
Show me a stream where Haato masturbated on stream for cash on a porn site.

>>2016944
Or just dies.
Metallic Rat is a very transcendental creature.

>>2017373
I mean she literally did a hentai review of her own character in front of thousands but hey you keep whining about "Whataboutisms" or whatever.

Simply saying that if you think anyone cares about this, you're wrong.

>>2015189
How many vtubers are active on a daily basis now?
Imagine giving a shit about who collabs with who when there's at least five dozen other talents you could go watch?
Let the zombie do whatever she wants. She's already dead.

>>2017351
this is what she sings to her child every night

>>2017351
The immunodeficiency crowd?

>>2017421
>literally did a hentai review
>cannot differentiate looking at art of your character and literally doing porn
Ok anon. I like melody, I don't know why you feel this is a cliff you have to die on.

>>2017373
Do you one better.

https://youtu.be/XBIsq4r2s8I
I appreciate ironmouse for supporting arusan and oga.

>>2017365
I'm not arguing with you. I'm suggesting that people should cause a ruckus.

Wait, is Hime a serious Vtuber? I always thought it was just a satirical Vtuber. Even today I still refuse to accept Nyanners as anything other than satirical.

>>2017456
Which vtuber model is this?

>>2017454
Because it's functionally the same. They are both not real, so posting hentai of your character and having a suggestive dance is functionally the same.
>>2017456
Yeah, that too. I mean who the fuck are these people wh othink the holos themselves are pure?

>>2017493
>Because it's functionally the same
No. They are not functionally the same.
There is a LARGE degree of seperation of looking at art and being a pornstar.

>>2015189
>the bar for Ollie deeming someone a great person is getting a tweet back, even a late one
poor kid never had a lot of friends huh

>>2017476
OH YEAH LET'S CAUSE MORE DRAMA SO WE CAN PROTECT THE TALENTS THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE

kys

>>2017014
>he doesn't watch the streams
embarrassing

>>2017480
how fucking new are you

>>2017551
He was laughing at you for posting bannable content and a poor attempt at whataboutisms.

>>2015999
This but unironically.

>>2017527
You probably forgot because she only says that every other stream

Festival is flirting with randoms on Apex voice chat theses days of all fucking things.

>>2017522
>>2017454
Hoo boy, don't tell this lad what member streams are like. He might shatter

>>2017582
>lewd asmr streams are the same as DOING PORN
You have never had an argument this entire thread.

>>2015773
Their quality and standards are lower than that of Hololive. When you're growing a brand you don't interact with your bootleg counterparts because they drag you down to their level while you pull them up to yours. Ollie doesn't care about that because she's 36 out of 43 in popularity and is willing to grab onto anything to increase her popularity.

>>2016601
You are an idot who takes thing too literally.

>>2017551
It's clearly some anti faggot trying to explain why the vshoujos are 'so much worse' while knowing so little he doesn't understand that they're not even the lewdest vtubers.

You can tell it's the same pathetic retard because he keeps using 'whataboutism' like showing examples of how Holos aren't pure themselves doesn't kill his argument.

>>2017464
>>2017351
Ironmouse is fucking based. She even gave the mic to small vtubers the other day. Mori's indie retweet has NOTHING on her. She streamed three fucking streams just to shill the little guys.
t. deadbeat

>>2017573
He didn't post it anon.

>>2017641
>knowing so little
>not a SINGLE whataboutism has been equivalent to DOING PORN IN AVATAR
Oh, please enlighten me. Post a stream where Calli masturbated in front of people in a 3D model in exchange for cash.

>>2016841
This is a pretty good ranking, almost all others are more filled with falseness.

>>2017539
How slow are you? The thing to be protected is the medium, and the behavior of this talent poses a threat to the medium. I don't care for Ollie, especially not after this and the many multiple other times she's done this crap.

>>2017613
Hoo boy, don't tell this lad what member streams are like. He might shatter.
Some of them literally shave their pussies on-air and record the lewd sounds they make but ok bro. Melody is just too lewd with her dancing and vibrator talk. Btw did you know that Holos collab with Nijis constantly and several of them literally used Hitachi vibrators on-air? Well, don't think too much about it, you may realize that you don't have an argument.

>>2017663
You don't have an argument bro. You're just demonstrating why you shouldn't be commenting on this subject matter because of your inexperience.

>>2017692
>don't tell this lad what member streams are like
They do not involve members masturbating with their 3D avatar for money.
>HOO BOY, don't tell this lad I don't have an argument
I know anon.
>they SAY they are doing X but you have to trust them because it is not shown
Oh. Different from masturbating with your 3D Avatar then.

>>2015189
enough
throw her to the chinks.

>>2017684
>The thing to be protected is the medium
Haaaaaaaaaa what a faggot you are.
Purityfags, this is your mindset.

>>2017684
AND HOW THE FUCK IS STARTING SHITFESTS ON TWITTER GOING TO PROTECT THE TALENTS YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOT, WHY CAN YOU NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION

>>2017712
>You are a person who follows vshojo for a long time, and therefore you cannot discuss things related to vshojo
>BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PRIVATE STREAMS CAN BE LEWD AND INUENDO!
Thanks anon. Maybe you should watch a Melody chaturbate stream.

>>2017645
Boy can do jack shit about it, all of EN is on a external collab ban.

Porn isn't the problem.
Politics are the problem
The last time a holo got even slightly close to politics a whole branch of the company got terminated

>>2015367
cause i dont watch them!

>>2017741
retard

>>2017769
>Porn is an issue but not a problem.
>Politics is an issue but not a problem.
>Chinese Aggression is the problem. The last time a holo got even slightly close to showing land claimed by china a whole branch of the company got terminated
FTFY

>>2017684
> The thing to be protected is the medium
HOO BOY
Should we tell him?
Should we?

This thread is just demonstrating why /vt/ is probably the worst board to talk about collabs because it seems like none of you know anything about the talents you're talking about.
Like the guy saying Vtubers have NEVER done sexual acts with their avatars before.

>>2017741
When every single piece of Western media has been thoroughly infected with ideological and political bullshit, from the multi-billion-dollar blockbusters to barely-kept-afloat comic books, it's amazing that you think it's no big deal for a Holo to collab with a Western content creator.

>>2017314
I would say it’s even worse. Look at the discusting shit that Noel Mel and Coco do as their roomates. But nobody bats a eye because it’s somehow ok

>>2017799

>implies liking haachama
Doesn't like Vshojo.
There's a disconnect here.

>>2016242
so the rrats that people dont watch streams are true

>>2017818
Nah you seem far more retarded.

>>2017761
Who cares if you follow vshoujo or not. You clearly don't know enough about the other vtubers to make a definitive statement on what they would/wouldn't collab with.
Like you think them collabing with hentai artists would even be a new thing.

>>2017721
Why are you drawing the line at masturbating with an avatar?
What major consequences are to befall Hololive should they collab with Melody?

>>2017684
>>2017741
NTA. Not a purityfag either, but hololive as a model at least contrains them to certain activities and prevents their content to be peeepeeppoopoo jokes or join in with hot take politics. Some chuubas just choose to have standards themselves even if they don't have companies to force them to do so.
https://youtu.be/wfJCE2tMMjI
Look at this dutch girl for reals. Look at her circle of friends (except Koopa but I love kwapi anyway)
>>2017764
I know, my man.

>>2017818
>>2017684
Shithead.
Literally the only way to "protect the medium" from lewdtubing would be to get a time machine.
>>2017828
Meds.

>>2017849
was clearly a pepeloni reference.

>>2016841
I can agree with this post

Are purityfags aware that holos have collabed with much worse than vshojo?

>>2017834
Because it's not as big of a deal as he's making it out to be. He clearly isn't even aware of it being a thing before now.

I don't think Ollie realizes she doesn't have the seniority or security to rebel against Cover yet. She should've given it at least half a year before becoming a potential walking YAB

>>2017879
they'll be stoned to death hopefully

>>2017750
Protect the talents from what? The talents aren't at threat. The medium is.

>>2017927
Why do these baiters always do this? They never post an actual example?
>DO YOU KNOW THE HOLOLIVE GIRLS COLLABED WITH MUCH WORSE THAN CHATURBATE PORNSTARS?
Ok anon. Take meds.

I wouldn't mind a collab with anyone if the holo knows not to get involved in anything outside of it
I would trust Gura to collab with for example nyanners, you KNOW shitters would try to put nyanners' anti-loli narrative against Gura because she likes and retweets spicy stuff, and likes to tease her audience. But Gura is smart enough (or at least sensible enough) to ignore those issues like she did in the past.
But I do NOT trust Ollie not to get involved in some drama that is bound to happen with those retards that can't separate real life from vtubing.

>>2015911
Unironically Melody is the most wholesome from all Vshojo.
There this video which analyzed her boom on CB and it said her personality is what got her to where she is now because otherwise her camgirl skills are still lacking due the limitations of her 3d technology.
Which I guess it aligns with the initial outrage of a lot of CB camgirls, since Melody takes A LOT OF TIME to even do something sexual there and 90% of any CB streams from her are literally just zatsudans.

>>2017902
I don't care about the porn aspect. I care about the ideological and political shitshow that comes with Western content creators. But you're also dismissive of that, so you're just naive.

>>2017823
Don't confuse me with the people arguing about the porn stuff. I don't care. I care about the ideological and political shitshow that comes with Western content creators.

>>2017966
He doesn't understand that the Vtuber is the marketable medium that MAKES the talent money.
If you don't protect the medium, and parents think vtubing is for VRchat ERPers and Chaturbate girls you would hurt the talent like Pekora who desperately wants a young audience.
You would hurt their ability to get access to game permissions for kids like Story of Seasons that the talents ENJOY playing.
They live in a bubble and think vtubers are an invincible monolithic power that youtube, marketers, game publishers and mothers have no power over.

>>2015189
I don't know Ollie all that well but she definitely talks like an airhead in this one.

"I love the vshojo girls too, I think they're amazing. like a lot of people, you know I kinda ummm, a lot of people have been misinterpreting them because of uhhh stuffs! But I think that they are very amazing girls! :)"

"People have these stereotyped minds.... *monkey language commences*"

I think Ollie just likes Vshojo because their members are nice to her. I mean, ok, sure whatever I guess.

Your oshi probably wouldn't like you if she got to see this.

>>2017950
Can cover actually afford to graduate any of the girls at this point?
The only graduation they had were either really early before hololive got popular or someone who barely even debuted

>>2017950
I think she realizes it, she's just banking on her actions gaining her enough following quick enough that there isn't meaningful consequence for them.

>>2018059
>Think of the children!

>>2018059
For the last FUCKING TIME, HOW THE FUCK IS GETTING INTO RANDOM ARGUMENTS WITH FUCKING SCHIZOS GONNA PREVENT PERMISSIONS FROM BEING REVOKED?????? WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER THIS GODDSAMN FUCUJKING GRQUIETOINO SOYU FUCKING PIREVE OIFF SHGIITS FUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>2018085
Also the entire chinese branch and a popular holostars member.

>>2018085
What? They graduated six of them like four months ago.

EN branch is probably under tremendous pressure to succeed, given that it is probably expected to outpace domestic in revenue at this point. It's also a market that's only just over a year old at this point, so promoting competition is not a smart move since they are the current market leader by ever thinning margins.
ID doesn't have either of these pressures and so they are more free to do whatever.

To be honest it's almost enough to make me feel bad for EN if not for their six figure / month incomes.

>>2017950
>rebel against Cover
>Ollie:
>I love these girls
>"A lot of people have been misinterpreting them due to sum... umm.. stuff" (porn)
>She think they are very amazing, talented and wholesome (I dont think she knows what wholesome means)
She laments the fact the AUDIENCE does not want to see a collab with these two entities.
She loves Silvervale, who is an ethot but a very passionate ethot, Ollie has great collab energy with her.
She mentions rules IN THE COMMUNITY not in the COMPANY.

>>2018085
no, forced graduations are stains

>>2015773
I don’t know about dangerous since I don’t think the HoloEN fanbase can get anymore cancerous than it already is, but they are annoying

>>2018059
Lmao at thinking holo overseas branches would affect the image of vtubers in Japan

We should of gatekept purityfags from this hobby when we had the chance.

O HMY FUCKING GOD YOU ALL ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING FAGGOTS I HOEP YOU ALL FUCKING DIE

>>2015773
Lower standards.

Plus Ollie doesn't realize that she's a better entertainer than a lot of them. She should not be looking up to them or chasing them it should be the other way around.

>>2018014
>Gura
>Who is currently on her paranoia arc that now hides her screen whenever she saves in a game

LMAO no, at best would be Kiara after BTFO one eceleb anituber on twitter or Ina. Ame right now is a Holo purityfag so she doesn't count and Mori would not control herself if the homos manager is not there like when she was on TT.
From ID unironically Moona, Iofi or Anya would know how to handle those kind of collabs without causing Yabai.

>>2018202
too bad western fags didnt give a fuck before EN

>>2018142
>>2018203
Anon, your blood pressure reps...

>>2018190
>LMAO thinking companies like Capcom who makes more money overseas than Japan cares about Overseas
>these marketers would never look into the girls these vtuber regularly collab with on stream
OK anon, take meds.

>>2018203
Just go to sleep, little boy.

>>2018142
Companies are aware of when shit blows up on twitter and they don't necessarily want to be affiliated with that. It might be the case where only some girls would get permissions, but a Japanese company will probably just avoid Hololive as a whole if there COULD be a problem.

>>2018177
>She mentions rules IN THE COMMUNITY not in the COMPANY.
Pretty sure Hololive scrutinizes who they can collab with, even the HoloID girls. Right now she's clearly trying to circumvent that by building community with the people she would normally collab with on Twitter instead of collabing with them.

>>2018203
Shhh. The adults are talking.

>>2018177
Silverdale is unironically bland. So is the blondie. If anything she should collab with the bitch queen of /v/ herself Nyanners

>>2018239
>we will protect the talents by making sure they get their permissions revoked by acting like retards
THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHY IS EVERYONE OF YOU GATEKEEPING FAGGOTS LIKE THIS

>>2018202
Idolfags ARE the hobby.

>>2017950
she had the security tho, that's why she know she can do this stunt

>>2018085
you forgot the entire cn branch?

and cover are afraid of reine family, none of the id girl will graduate unless reine wants it
also the only reasons id gen 2 exist is because reine want to join hololive

>>2018240
Yes Ollie is based like that.

>>2018282
I wouldn't call it based, I'd call it desperate. It's the only way she can see to grow her view count.

>>2016270
not in 2015

>>2018149
>>2018167
Yeah but their hand was pretty much forced, plus nobody likes the chinese.
If they graduate Ollie or any other holo for anything short of attempting to burn tokyo to the ground they'll get a lot of bad publicity and cause more controversy than what ever the holo in question did.

>>2015263
Ollie is a fangirl who ascended to the rank of being a real member. It's been said before but Ollie is just like Kiara (just slightly more sufferable). In a few years we'll be able to pinpoint EN (mostly Kiara) as the beginning of the end, and the decline of all of this, but Ollie is the first REAL cancer cell in the tumor that will kill hololive. Mark my words, it will come out that Ollie fucked some dude (or some other drama like that), but it won't cause her to graduate, and that's exactly where everyone will realize that Hololive is already infested from top to bottom. Purityfagging keeps out mistakes. That's all Ollie is, and what EN (especially gen 2) will be remembered as. A mistake that killed the fad.

>>2018216
>Plus Ollie doesn't realize that she's a better entertainer than a lot of them
I know you hate the vshojo girls but please avoid shitposting.
Ollie would have great collab energy with Silvervale. I would enjoy her collabing.
I can't think of another Hololiver that should collab though. Maybe Ironmouse x Holostars?

>>2018202
I waned you back in 2018 bro.

>>2018263
meds

>>2017243
>Several of the holos did voices in ero VNs.
>Several
Can you name more than one? Remember, you said ero VNs specifically and not anything else. Name more than one holo who voiced an ero VN. Go on; let's hear it.

>>2018202
hololive is an idol company if you want whores watch niji or vshojo

>>2018221
You really think Gura of all people would get involved in twitter drama?
>Iofi
She already failed at that.

>>2015189
That was the fucking yab? God, may /hlgg/ rot in hell.

>>2018277
Reine is probably closest to Ollie out of anyone, especially after how Anya acted during the offline collab. She is super safe now.

>>2018339
YAB YAB YAB YAB YAB YAB EVERYTHING A HOLO DOES THAT I DON'T LIKE IS A YAB AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2018177
Then fuck off and go be an indie and get indie money, Ollie.
There's a reason Hololive is more popular than vShojo and it isn't marketing and lack of exposure.
They aren't misinterpreted. The audience doesn't like what they do, have done, and will do again.

>>2018177
I mean, there probably is a rule in place from Cover itself preventing this collab, and it may be because of the community/audience.
If the community/audience is okay with it, it might convince the company to be okay with it. So, she might be right in her lamentation of what's actually blocking the collab from happening.

>>2018059
Hololive already does things that I would find uncomfortable to let my hypothetical child watch. Perhaps you can say streamers like Pekora would be kid-friendly, but then she is associated with other less wholesome talents, and the interconnected nature of the girls and mere curiosity would ultimately show my child something very bad.
That line was crossed long ago with Hololive.
If you are talking about Vtubing in general, then Hololive's main competitor, Nijisanji, does even less kid-friendly streams at times, not to mention of course Vshojo.

>>2018202
>we
But they were here before you?

>>2018357
> There's a reason Hololive is more popular than vShojo and it isn't marketing
lol

>>2016796
didn't zen post political shit

>>2018313
I should have listened to you man I’m sorry

>>2018263
I'm trying to help you not sound like a turboautist, I agree with you.

>>2018301
Ollie is really that powerful huh? So the legend begins here.

>>2015189
>the absolute state of Holocucks
You heard her, now go donate to those vshojo twitch whores like she wants you too.

>>2018330
You talking shit about Suisei's radio cohost and friend you fag ass bitch boy?

>>2018382
not an argument, faggot

>>2018416
yeah and I'm sure you have links to the market research you've conducted to back that baseless assertion up

>>2018202
> I should have gatekept the people who created the market for the hobby I forced my way into before I even knew it existed.

Maybe I'm just biased but I'm pretty sure that's the accurate way to phrase your post

>>2018412
whay does sui gf have to do with nijis?

>>2018396
Not on her own. More will follow. They always do

>>2018333
Iofi's drama was literally due Gura. Even chikim recent Uno drama was again due Gura.
So yes, Gura can get into twitter drama, THANKS TO HER FUCKINH SCHIZO CHUMBUDS WHO ARE PROJECTING THEIR CUNNY LOVE ON HER.
I would not even be surprised if Gura was afraid to do collabs outside her gen due the backlash of her Among Us collab with the IDs and JPs.

>>2015984
she gains more by losing some

goodbye former zomrades, may you find your new oshi that care about you being a purityfag

>>2018382
Imagine holding a torch for talentless frauds, unabashed whores, and actual transsexuals trying to paint the nascent world of vtubing in their shit-stained color. I hope you don't approach the rest of your life with the same total lack of self-awareness.

>>2018301
I can see Kiara being fiercely loyal to Hololive and would back down from going full YABAI if asked to do so - she was never the true threat. Ollie, on the other hand, hasn't been through as much shit as Kiara and doesn't know how good she has it right now. She's already whiteknighting strangers outside of the company. I hope she keeps her enthusiasm but redirects it towards the hand that literally feeds her.

>>2018491
Forgot my pic

>>2018357
>The audience doesn't like what they do
There is more than one community in the hololive fanbase.
>>2018360
>a rule in place from Cover itself preventing this collab
I don't think so, not ID at least, her manager may be preventing her from collabing due to fears of community backlash though.
>>2018364
>Hololive already does things that I would find uncomfortable to let my hypothetical child watch
Sure but not on the surface, you have to watch hours of clips to get Matsuri call your son a small dicked cherry boy or the lewd ASMR stuff, or the deleted Choco/Mel milking 1-2-Switch gameplay.

>>2018446
It doesn't need research. Hololive and vShojo have different appeals and one is vastly more popular.

>All these newfags weren't here when Polka said she loved n*anners

https://youtu.be/1xTRso6cL6E

>>2018383
Yes.
He called all Trump supporters (74m people) domestic terrorists.

Zombanbo finally got /vt/ to pay her rent.
She's strong for someone in a constant state of decomposition.

>>2018512

>>2018460
She is one

>>2018014
>But I do NOT trust Ollie not to get involved in some drama that is bound to happen with those retards that can't separate real life from vtubing.
Silvervale has little drama, she is just an ethot, so I would trust her to collab with Ollie.

>>2018536
>There is more than one community in the hololive fanbase.
Yes, there is a wave of new fans who appear to be in the process of being filtered because Hololive isn't what they want it to be and never will be.

>>2018546
Polka doesn't speak English, she doesn't know what kind of baggage a statement like that carries.

>>2018539
I personally don't think vshojo will ever be more popular than hololive, but you have to consider for how long both have been around.
In a couple years vshojo might be more popular, although it is probably more likely that by then both companies will be overshadowed by some newcomer.

>>2015670
If you don't understand why collabing with vshojo would be cancerous to Hololive then you are that cancer people are trying to keep out

>>2018512
Don’t act like holding like holding a torch for bland corporate vtubers that follow trends is any better.

>>2018548
Nope zen said the people running into the capitol building were fucking crazy.
I don't know jack shit about zen and even I know that much.

>>2018546
>assuming that people that care about this still have the same positive opinion of Polka
Anyway, some people defended that by saying Polka doesn't know a lick of English and thus doesn't know what she's talking about or doing.

>>2018640
That's not what he said, that's what he posted on twitter.
Learn to read.

>>2016796
They're all tumblr tier libtards. Hololive bans politics for very good reason and politics are the one thing western e-thots absolutely cannot shut up about. It's a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. Has anyone here read a Marvel comic lately? You know what these people do to whatever medium they infest why the fuck would you open the door to them to invade something you enjoy?

>>2018496
lol that spineless whore won't even tell her cocksucking fanbase to stop harassing her colleagues. She's almost as bad as the chinks who got fired.

How do ironmousefags cope with the fact that their oshi is literally going to die soon?

>>2018638
nothing wrong with that man, just stop forcing your shit here

>>2018668
Maybe Netflix needs to release an anime about an eight-year-old going through gender reassignment surgery before these people get it. Western community knitting websites aren't free from politics.

>>2018668
>They're all tumblr tier libtards
I don't deny them being social liberals but mouse, melody and silvervale are not active political SJWs.

>>2018704
well, she won't so it's not really a problem

>>2018704
She burns with a bright light.

>>2015189
Put Ollie on Twitch instead of YouTube and let her have the collab she wants. I know plenty on here that hate fucking Twitch so they'll stop watching her anyways.

>murican /pol/tads starting to sperg out

All right time to nuke the thread.

>>2018704
1) You don't understand what she has
2) Any of the girls can be Ísekaid to another world by truck kun any second
3) Fuck you.

>>2018588
Isn't almost everyone here on this board a new fan? Just judging by board speeds not even 1/10 of the people posting here even knew what Hololive or a vtuber was this time last year.

>>2018725
>3 out of 7 are not actively political
Not a great count there.

>>2018743
Blame Zentraya.
He can't keep his fucking mouth shut and make money from video games.

>>2015189
She could talk to them all day when they're all offline, why does she feel that they have stream collabs?

>>2018743
american website

>>2018707
This isn’t a Hololive board bro.

>>2018777
Publicity. It's a publicity stunt. She is very, very low ranking in Hololive popularity and she is aware of it.

>>2015189
Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw

>>2018769
3 out of the 5 big vshojo girls is better though.
Hime is still too new to say.

>weeehhh what is wrong with EOP? why are you trying to gatekeep us, you disgusting jap wannabe
>raaahhhhh get those EOP western vshojo twitch whores away from my oshi

People don't understand how quickly the cancer can spread and ruin your hobby once you let these normies in. Please learn from the fate of other media and don't let them get a foot in the door. It always starts with accusations of people being paranoid /pol/ schizos and always ends up with the hobby being a hollow shell being used to propagate the authors preferred brand of progressive politics. This WILL happen to vtubers unless you gate keep the cancer.

She's going to play apex for endurance stream soon, any bet who will be the next Guess in that stream?
My bet is in connor or zentraya.

>>2018536
>you have to watch hours of clips to get Matsuri call your son a small dicked cherry boy or the lewd ASMR stuff
You really don't have to go that far to find something that game publishers or marketers find objectionable if they are looking to preserve their image to parents.
I'm sure you know for instance of the existence of clippers and their unfortunate tendency of taking the lewdest parts of a stream (or sometimes not even that lewd), and put a sexualized clickbait thumbnail in it.
Even if you only take into consideration what the company does, these clips will expose the lewd side of Hololive to potential ads and game permissions.
The ecosystem of Hololive is already polluted with people that find it quirky the idea of lewd idols, and the talent in turn plays into that.
If what you say is true, and if Hololive is committed to be more kid-friendy, it is only a matter of time before some purityfag makes a fuss to the wrong people and the whole thing will come crashing down

>>2018767
>not even 1/10 of the people posting here even knew what Hololive or a vtuber was this time last year.
And probably 80% of them won't be here this time next year.

>>2018743
Don't want /pol/-agreeable politics being spouted either. Just want none of it. But as usual, even anti-politics is seen as political; even gets you assigned to a particular group. Western poison.

>>2018799
Meds now

>>2017178
She cheated on her husband while he was away, which ended up in a divorce.
She also used to sell badges in /k/, at least until she decided to take the money and never send anything back.

>>2018827
God I hate modern comics.

>>2018827
>progressive politics
wow, you almost had me up until the very end
>>>/pol/
would sage but this thread is making too many fags fume

>>2018079
Nobody here cares what their oshi thinks.
Only that their idea of what their oshi represents is protected from things they deem undesirable.

>>2017178
She is a scam artists who never delivered on badges.

>>2018638
>Bland
Incorrect

>>2018880
The exact same thing happened. Politics started creeping in and people tried pushing back only for subversives to claim that there was nothing wrong with comics being political and that they're all bigots. 10 years later and the entire comic industry is dead. Don't call it a grave, this is the future you chose, but it can still be avoided for other hobbies you enjoy. You can still avoid having Miko make reparations for saying Nigger on stream by collabing with Tyrone the Big Black Vtuber who explains basketball american culture to her.

>>2018951
>they actually tried to "take" the terms snowflake and safespace and make heroes out of it
>internet gas

>>2018704
ah, that makes sense

>>2018827
The Normies and Reddit have already invaded you idiot. You can’t even respectfully criticize a Holo without people sperging out. Not to mention all the people bootlicking Cover and defending anything they do. Not to mention most of the people caring more about views and how much money a Holo makes and not about the quality of the streams. It’s far too late already.

>>2018877
First one is nice, shame she's a scam artist though

>>2018704
Uh well...

FUCK OFF NIGGER

>>2019028
>first one is nice
What the fuck is wrong with ntrtards

>>2018704
Isn't she literally a single mother? Does anybody actually believe that someone on deaths door could deliver a kid? Or is there some vital piece of information (cope) I'm missing?

>>2019094
Makes my penis erect and then I cum

>>2018983
what are you talking retard, there are faggots ready to spam bullshit any time cover or the girls fuck up

>>2018976
holobronies btfo

>>2017902
>Thinking western shit won't ruin everything
Please stop typing in your keyboard and think sometimes fag

>>2018650
That would explain her viewership tanked really hard aftewards.

I hope they do a collab just to see you retards sperging out.

>>2018951
I think this is a phenomenon mostly happening in the West.
Do you believe EOPs hold such sway in Hololive that they could do the things that you fear comics suffered?
The fact that it is a Japanese company entices, I believe, people that trust Hololive to do Japanese things in contrast with the newly formed western groups, which holds that argument into worse validity in my opinion

>>2019143
That's a rat you know.

>>2019253
>they do a sudden collab to own the purityfags
>their numbers suddenly tank to near anya levels (aka literally nothing)
>never take a risk again
>never recover anything close to what they had before
>forced to graduate (best case scenario)/ become total menhera unable to cope with being a nobody all of a sudden

I'm not saying it won't happen eventually but even they understand that you have to push the boundaries before you break them

>Wanting to colab with Vshojo

>>2019364
I believe all rrats until they're proven false

Risu is actively laughing her ass off at all of you. Holy shit she's going to die from the hilarity.

>>2019491
>Caring what the 5th least popular Holo thinks

>>2019365
>their numbers suddenly tank to near anya levels
I'm confused, are purityfags the majority of the Hololive fanbase or the original watchers trying to defend their company from the influence of the EOPs?

>>2019365
dunno why their numbers would tank, looking at the like/dislike ratio on that clip in OP, it seems most of the fanbase want this and support what she is saying

>>2018364
Shouldn't you worry about the interconnection your hypothetical child has to your hypothetical whore of a wife and your bitch of a mother through you? You should for the sake of your hypothetical child completely distance yourself from it and nip these connections in the bud by never procreating. Thank you.

>>2019562
People forget schizos are a vocal minority even on here. And more importantly none of you fuck donate to her. Why would she take you opinion into consideration when you make her no fucking money?

>>2019511
>>2019562
I'm assuming silent majority would overcome clipfags but maybe that's just my own bias. Even then, the number of people who hate vshojo aren't limited to just purityfags/eop haters. If a collab was forced too soon, I do think their numbers would tank. The point was all someone like Ollie has to do to prevent that is just wait a little longer for the standards to be lowered more.

>>2016152
>Nigga im saying ollie could be doing meth mid stream
Where do you think she gets all that energy from?

>>2019711
That crack not meth.

>>2015189
good, this is what EOP subhumans deserve

>>2019624
If you are actually interested in making a point, please tell me if you think that companies aiming at a kid-friendly demographic would find Hololive objectionable

>>2019059
you present a compelling argument

>>2018827
blessed and prophetpilled

>>2019143
She is not on death door, she is just prone to dying.
Imagine a car without a seatbelt, airbag, ABS, ESC, or even brakes.
The only kind of security measure you have is a handbrake.
This car does get you places and can haul whatever you want, you just have to be very careful while doing so since the slightest mishap can get you killed.

In the case of Ironmouse, the car is her body and the security measures are her immune system.
She has essentially Super-AIDS, but it's not the AIDS that kills you, it's literally everything else.
As long as you're healthy, you're healthy but the slightest infection, be it flu or an infected wound, will kill you since there's nothing there to stop it.

>I Coco collabs with Melody some day there're people on here that will unironically side with the CCP.

Fascinating.

>>2018845
Puritanism is one of the biggest blight the world has to suffer under.

>Ollie getting DPed by Zentraya and Connor
UHHHHHHOOOOOOHH

>>2017351
>people think this is good

>>2019949
I hope that does happen. The zhangs go after vShitto and leave our girls alone. Win win.

>>2015189
Ollie is so fucking based. A true sweetheart that irony poisoned cynics could never understand.

>>2020022
>Posting mediocre singing skill sheep.

Glass house anon.

lmao is 4chan a christian website now i can't fucking believe some of the shit that i'm reading

>>2020127
The fact they're roasties isn't the real problem. The ENvtuber scene is cancer and this sets a bad precedent.

>>2020127
Unironically yes. Election tourists have shifted the culture here in some funny ways.

>>2020182
The cancer in vtubing is Cover.

i love dicks

>>2020261
yeah we know

>>2020214
Without cover vtubing would still just be niji whores, we should forever be thankful for cover's existence.

>>2020261
hey me too!

>>2020330
we know that already Mori

Try watching vshojo during post nut clarity

>>2018951
While I agree that making everything political is cancer, you seem to think that political commentary in comics is a recent thing. Captain America was literally an anti-Nazi propaganda piece, and even if you ignore World War II, like Dennis O’Neill and Neal Adams doing their Green Lantern/Green Arrow stories, or Steve Ditko creating Mr. A for his objectivist screeds. The big problem today is the lack of decent writers and that current writers prioritize their message over entertainment value (admittedly Mr. A suffers these same problems, but the point there is that it’s not new). Also, writers back in the 60s and 70s were more self aware, which is why Green Lantern, who got chewed out by his black neighbor for ignoring the plight of minorities, gets to point out the shortcomings of Green Arrow, the progressive man with all the answers, when his sidekick turns out to be a junkie. Or how Tony Stark, a wealthy member of the military-industrial complex born with a silver spoon in his hand, was created as the antithesis of Marvel’s target audience’s political views.
That said, I don’t trust the type of people who pretend to be anime girls for a bunch of simps to be able to handle political discussions with tact and finesse, and politics in the age of social media is too much of a hornet’s nest to be worth it, and politics really shouldn’t be shoved into everything all the time.

>Join idol company
>Get upset that you can't do collabs with e-thots whose characters are nothing but sex
Should've joined Nijisanji.

>>2017888
>prevents their content to be peeepeeppoopoo
Marine has literally made jokes about how getting shot is like her getting her tits bitten by mosquitoes and given her males viewers guides on how to give themselves prostate orgasms
You fags only watch clips and ENs and it's painfully obvious

>>2020632
she's actually about to join nijisanji id in her past life, guess hololive accepted her first

>>2020973
Anon you'll have to give a different example cause those are clips too

>>2020973
Is it the majority of her content, anon?

>>2021009
Oh ok, what about that time Coco canonized her "tail" as actually being just a buttplug, or the that fact you you literally buy a Hololive™ branded buttplug plush?

>>2016468
based

>>2018638
>bland
says the guy who wants to hear about tits and dicks for the 100th time today

>>2018202
maybe you shouldn't have joined a hobby with idolfagging at its core

>>2018704
they dont

>>2021101
japanese = good
western = bad
How is that hard to understand?

>>2015811
IN called their manager M-chan and S-chan

>>2015878
18, 19 this June

>>2016372
>How one behaves affects the entire group.
Mind giving me a QRD of how Chris and Aloe affected their groups? Sure, we witnessed the spawn of some schizothreads on /jp/ prophesying Cover's downfall similar to this one right here, but SOMETHING happened after that, right? Right?

>>2018059
>If you don't protect the medium, and parents think vtubing is for VRchat ERPers and Chaturbate girls
Why the fuck would I care about opinion of morons who don't understand, let alone enjoy a hobby? Boomers have believed FOR FUCKING DECADES that video games make people violent criminals, yet it had jack shit on the reality of things, and the only ability that was hurt in the process was their continence.

>>2018827
>>2018951
The biggest and most influential vtubers right now are under Japanese companies, yet you are under this retarded impression that American sociopolitical problems of trannies, BLM, representation etc. are on a comparable level of importance as, let's say, China and Taiwan, and that these problems will somehow affect the talents in any meaningful way when literally as little as a single point in the contract negates the entire "issue". In its own way this baseless doomposting is even cute and endearing, because you seething here is just another side of the same coin of dumbfucks seething on Twitter. Pls andastand that the rest of the world (minus the zhangs) has thicker skin than you have skulls, and realize people outside your precious burgerland give as much of a fuck about your concernfagging as you did when Moona collabed with a bunch of literal whos. Not even Kiara antis were ever this dedicated to belittling and cancelling her as you and half of this thread are to "protecting vtubers from western disease" or whatever idiotic rrat you seem to be sperging over. If anything, you were the disease all along enabled by HoloEN without which you'd still be on the stage of watching translated clips of HoloJP while believing HoloID speak only Indonesian.

>>2019365
A reminder that the first Holostars have been on Anya levels (and even below) for some 2 years now, and they're still profitable enough to keep them around with not just monthly wages, but also further investments like more Live2D and 3D models and merch. Similarly, Sora debuted to 13 viewers back in fucking 2017, and she's all fine and dandy to this very day, just as any Holos will be after collabing with VShojo, if it ever happens.

For the love of the peafowl one, get some fucking perspective, you humongous twats.

>>2022854
How did you spoiler this image? Just curious.

>>2023608
>new
When you post an image there is a checkbox below the captcha with text on its side saying "Spoiler?"

>>2023654
I see it now. Thanks.

vwhores spend every stream talking about taking dicks, sucking dicks, and drinking cum from random hookups so it’s not even worth clipping. Keeping them away from Holos is the one thing Cover management is doing right

>>2015911
>She is like this autistic high school slut you liked to talk to and she appreciated it because you were almost the only one who didn't want to immediately fuck her.
You lost me, fampai. Went to an all male high school so I didn't experience high school megathots like that.

>Guilt by Association: The Thread

>>2018301