/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>20071631
Im sorry moonafags but looks like shes getting anally enlarged by indog dick every night

>>20071631
holy ESL that was painful. stick to speaking your native monkey language

ESL chama...

>>20071631
Holy shit she actually is right on both sides. She is actually based.

>>20071631
That was painful...
Moona should just stick to her own language.

>>20071631
B-Based

cringe kino

>>20071631
Unicorns have always been the cancer of vtubing. They cause 99% of all drama

>>20071631
Ayyy noooooooo

>>20071767
Its her brother so its not technically a boyfriend.

Reminder that moonafiqs are the fags who keep saying shit like "I'll ruin Ollie's life if she ever gets Moona to collab with a homo".

well said, Moona, than you

>>20071631
moona really needs to stop treading on thin ice like this

>>20071631
>ask for loyalty about not being loyal
retard indog.

>>20071987
and iofi

>open link and look at top comment
>"For the livers:"
stopped reading there, of course its nijiniggers

>>20071631
>They hated her because she told them truth

>>20071631
thank you OP for spreading the truth to those unicorns

ehh moona what do you think they were saying about you?

>>20071767
Good on her

>>20071631
Based

>>20072439
why does he look like a literal faggot?

>>20071631
haachama said in her ASMR for money and gachikoi to fuck off and she has no plans of reopening her superchats
haatonbros status?

>>20071631
Holocucked

>>20072439
japan does have a shitton of problems but you can't just slap muh incels on everything

>>20072040
where did you get this indo speaking thread?

>>20072439
>these are the people telling you to touch grass

>>20071631
I didn't understand a single fucking thing she tried to say.

>>20072665
>草を触って

Doesn't she stream a lot in English? What the fuck happened to her language skills?

>>20071631
Don’t care, never watching whores with bfs

>>20072527
Source thy claim

>>20072527
Idk. I was watching some of it and people were asking for a countdown and I could tell she was really thinking about it. If that happened the way you said that would be quite the swing in mood.

>>20071631
>liking it and staying is fine
>not liking it and leaving is also fine
Based.

>>20071767
>anally enlarged
>indog dick
kek

>>20071631
Puts moona in a incredibly awkward position her voice is shaking through the whole video. She do her best to stay neutral while still answering awkward question retards proceed to brag. About how she owned "le unicorns" i will take the topic your a faggot for 1million dollars bob.

>>20071631
Jesus christ moona was always this bad at english? I can't understand a single things she's saying,

>>20072509
are you new to the internet?

>>20072702
>>20073302
Just shows how low were the standard for joining hololive back than. Sad state.

>>20073302
Yea

>>20071767
>large
>Indonesia

Bud...

>>20071767
>anally enlarged
>indog dick
>average erect penis size 11 cm
I was bigger when flaccid right after I started puberty and my growth spurt ended.

>>20072702
>>20073302
Rearry!?

>>20072439
the last person to tell others to fix their "incel" problem is white western twink boy

How exactly did she "own" unicorns?
She even said it's fine to dislike it and leave

>>20071631
Huh, she's pretty neutral about it.

>>20073630
She said it's fine to dislike as long as you keep your retardation to yourself.

> Moona doesn't have a unicorn or a gosling fan
Lord Alfred

>>20073816
No, she didn't say that.

>>20071813
>Your oshi should have a bf supporting them from behind
Nope. If she has a cuckold bf pimping her out emotionally then she isn't my oshi. If she has a bf that doesn't want her to do it and offers her support that she doesn't take or respect then she isn't my oshi either.

>>20073867
Please rewatch the clip.

>>20073887
Show me where she called it "retardation". I'll wait.

>>20073816
Isn't that fairly normal? Not every unicorn will become an anti in a heartbeat. Most people who dislike boyfriend shit will just leave. You just don't hear about them because, well, they left. Only the loud retards make themselves known.
Nobody is owed an audience or paypigs, everyone is free to leave for whatever reason they choose. There is literally nothing wrong with not wanting to watch vtubers with boyfriends, as long as you don't become a schizo anti over it.

>>20073973
imagine being this retarded to take everything literally

>>20074043
Thanks for conceding. Next time don't be as much of an idiot.

>>20073587
thank god im not white

>>20073973
You gotta read between the lines bro. Try knowing moona as well as me.

>>20071631
I'd like to support Moona from behind iykwim

>>20073867
>>20073973
>>20074065
this is exactly why you keep your retardation to yourself >>20073816

>>20073425
show proof

Imagine thinking a fucking model would be a boyfriendless virgin.
If they already need to get through ten casting couchs in the first world just to get a gig, I'd imagine third world models like Moona need to suck at least three cocks a day to keep their income coming

>>20072439
The audacity of this soiboi

>>20071631
>moona calls them hallucination
>kek based moona

>>20074372
Moona comes from a rich family.

>>20073302
It's her charm point and she plays up the ESL card on stream a little bit. There are times when the girls collab and Moona will sound much more fluent in English compared to her solo streams.

>>20074026
The problem is that retards assume there is no bf, but then they find that there is one and lose their shit.

>>20074498
And yet she still lives off her body
Do you think Weinstein was railing poorfags from the slum?

>>20074372
Id is sharia tho. They'd all be thrown off buildings if the got caught.

>>20074498
They're 3rd world rich and still not as rich as the Pavolia conglomerate. Moona being 60kg of big tittied thickness is why she's not single.

>>20074594
Id is McSharia anywhere outside some rural areas

>>20074594
Westerners can't understand that their degenerate lifestyles do not apply to everyone else in the world.

>>20074372
next thing you say picrel is indonesia

>>20071631
I am her BF, you guys should stfu and keep giving her money you fucking incels.

>>20072761
English is probably Moona's 3rd or 4th language and she didn't really get a high class education despite being pretty well off so her English is typical young Indo level.

>>20071631
Holy fucking ESL

>>20074583
The problem is that they act as if they don't.
Any woman that spends years online talking about themselves and oh so conveniently doesn't mention such a major aspect of their life is 99.99% a duplicitous whore milking gachibux.

Hating somebody for having a bf and hating somebody who pretended not to are vastly different things.
I dislike how ignored it is that so many are playing this game.
Ask any vtuber who says it doesn't matter what their body count is and observe the silence.

>>20074583
Even then, the only real problem here is the "lose their shit" bit. Too much of the discussion focuses on the boyfriend part and how you "should" feel about it, which is retarded. If you don't want to watch someone with a boyfriend, then don't, and don't let redditards tell you that you're a bad person for it. Just don't be a schizo.

I just want my oshi to be as lonely as I am so that I can relate to her. I don't want to hear from some normie gril.

>>20075335
This, I want to bond with like-minded losers. I don't want to simp for some stacey.

>>20074668
Never do it outdoor, getting caught doing it in public is asking to be mobbed or burned alive. It's common occurrence in here.

>>20075672
Where the fuck is it normal to do outside

She has to be so diplomatic lol. You faggots really are the bane of these girls. They all hate you.

>>20071631
I literally cannot relate to or understand non-virgins. It has nothing to do with being an unicorn, I don't like it when male streamers have gf either.

>>20075713
Ah forget it also apply if you doing it in Hotel or your home if someone you know caught you go to hotel with unknown woman that not your wife they call the whole villager then they will drag you out naked in street before lynched you to death.

>>20075948
KEK based

>>20075948
Wtf, based?
But if this is true, how come female cops all get diddled by male jisan cops under the pretense of testing their virginity and no one burns police stations?

>>20075948
Based

>>20075948
based if true. any links to reports or news?

>>20075948
Right, i remember those thing happen. Something about a couple caught doing sex before marriage and all the villager tied those two on the chair naked and parade them around the village. I think it happen around 2020?

If anyone can say shit about idol culture in Hololive, it's either her, Kiara or Nene since they were a part if it and don't forget it's also prevalent among Indonesian weebs too. Also, idol culture itself has undergo massive overhaul in the past decade so much that as long as you don't bring your relationship public, most idolfags irl are alright with it

>>20071968
First Ollie now Moona?
Why are all these ID vtubers fucking their brothers?

>>20075213
I bet she's not really an anime girl either, their lies never stop!!!

>>20078049
idol culture in id is different from jp

>>20071631
Why would I support someone that already has a bf? That's the whole point of a bf, My priority will always be to watch girls that got "saved" by becoming vtubers but just like she said if they have a confirmed bf I'll just leave or never support

>>20078601
But I can be your bf anon...
I mean I could...

>>20078716
Get a cute 2D model and We'll talk about it

>>20078773
I'll join StarsEN just for you...

>>20078891
If you luck out with a Shota model or Aruran look alike give me a call, if you become a generic ikemen you are dead to me

>>20078278
what? source anon?

>>20075213
>Hating somebody for having a bf and hating somebody who pretended not to are vastly different things
In theory yes but in practice no because the ire stems from the exact same place of why you're upset to begin with.

>>20071631
why are you fags like this?

ITT Seething virgins

>>20075948
Lately it's ended with just public shaming or exile. Kinda boring desu.

>>20079312
Why do you think vtubers are as popular as they are? No guy with a gf or wife is going to be this invested into fake anime women

>>20071631
Based Fuck Unicorns

>>20079357
This

>>20079299
I REALLY dislike these new "fans".

>>20079357
Funny because the anime women have all been fucked by people who are never them

>>20079394
He just found out what vtuber is

Looks like the clip force is already here

>>20079299
All me btw

Only losers with no girlfriends care if some vtuber twenty thousand miles away has a bf

>>20079125
YubiGate.

>>20079299
Nigora is always here to shit the comment section. Far from being the first time I see him in a cringy screenshot.

>>20078512
The chances is actually affected JP scene more since ID wota are not as autistic as their JP counterpart

>>20075240
Only bad vtubers reveal that they have bfs anyway.

>>20079643
>only
You mean 75% of the vtuber fanbase right?

Let's not act like these are exceptions.
If gura had a bf yab, she would decline hard

>>20079746 (me)
*The changes

>>20079299
Containment breaching niggerfaggots

>>20079764
People who don't want their favourite chuubas to act entitled, talk about their bf/men in their lives or collab with men all the time are the silent majority of vtubing fans. We won't freak out when a girl fails to hold up her part of the arrangement, we'll just leave and find one who can.

>>20079858
Rushia...

>>20079764
https://files.catbox.moe/zu9rew.mp4

>>20079299
>This is the first term i hear the term unicorn outside of vt
Doesn't this basically confirm sushi and moona are both here?

>>20079858
>We won't freak out
lol

>>20079912
Moona reads(100%sure) and supposedly posts in her own thread. As for the other one, maybe.

>>20079858
>We

>>20079224
Why were those people attracted in the first place?
It's the same as feeding a wild animal then being surprised it mauls you.

>>20079858
There is no arrangement, vtubers are not a product in the way a toy or burger is, it's an investment disguised as a product.
Merely a tool to push products.

You don't have to donate, you don't have to member, you don't have to sub.
Keyword donate, you're not purchasing something specific.
The only thing you can purchase is a membership, and membership as defined by youtube
>badges, emoji, and other goods
is vague enough to insure you don't have to be provided with anything substantial, there is no requirement for member only streams

You have decided the rules yourself and are enforcing them onto others.

>>20079912
During the stream she asked what was an unicorn and the chat told her.

>>20080211
>She knows who to create deniability if people asks her whether she's /here/ or not
She's growing so fast....

>>20071631
Basically the "if you love your oshi then you should be happy if your oshi has a boyfriend" mindset.

>>20080272 (me)
*She knows how

>>20080139
There is an arrangement. If a vtuber makes good content that appeals to people, she gets fans, subscribers and a fat paycheck. If she doesn't she loses all that.
People go on and on about how vtubers don't owe you anything or how you don't own them, but we quite literally do. There are rules to this industry that all the successful girls follow. At the end of the day, they have to sing and dance for their audience, and if they don't then they decline and flop.

>>20071631
dropped

>>20080323
Nailed it

I am "playing a character", however I am happy to mention these aspects of my life because they are not a "big deal":
- My IRL siblings
- My IRL parents
- My IRL friends
- My IRL (actual) roommates
- The people I interacted with during the day, i.e. clerks at stores, etc.
- My IRL pets
I believe that having a boyfriend is also not a "big deal". However, I will absolutely never bring up my IRL boyfriend on stream, not even as a passing mention, and will actively lie about who I am talking about when bringing up any stories related to him, instead pretending that I am talking about someone else like my IRL roommate.
Why do you think this is? You should be able to solve this.
Vtubers really got the scam game down well.

>>20079299
Wouldn't be the first time
Fucking SEAniggers

>>20080139
This is an autistic and inaccurate view of reality.
Apply that mode of reasoning to anything outside of a formal contract and it falls apart.

Again, duplicitous behaviour is excused by focusing on singular aspects and ignoring the audience and environment they cultivate knowingly.

>>20080347
based

>>20079912
Unicorn is a Japanese slang.

>>20071631
>Days without a based Moona take: 0

>>20080645
Stunning! Brave! The worst kind of Indog right here.

>>20080645
Okay she can say all that but I don't believe it without proof.

>>20071631
Will she ever talk about her boyfriend on stream? No.
Is she a hypocrite? Yes.

>>20080347
>>20080458
But that's not an objective obligatory arrangement the way purchasing products are which is the entire point.
You receive a burger because you purchased one, you're guaranteed what you purchased. If it was wrong or incorrect you get refunded or get it corrected. You may not get a good burger, but you'll get one.

You donate or member a vtuber, you're not guaranteed anything. You can choose to donate or not, you can choose to member or not. You can choose the amount to support with. What you get back in return is completely arbitrary. Sana and ayame barely stream and still receive money. The arrangement is entirely decided by YOU, not the product itself.

The model is based off of personal individual value, not a market one.

>>20080718
Please stop ieg

>>20080412
Yep, some women love to convince themselves that keeping just that one thing a secret is appropriate and then they wonder why the viewers get mad when people find out they've been lying. "Playing a character" is such a dishonest way of justifying why they kept the bf a secret when they have no problem whatsoever keeping everything else public

Alarm bells instantly start ringing when a vtuber unprompted brings up how "having a bf isn't a big deal". That's an instant unfollow

>>20071631
>>20071767

wasn't there a rrat that she have a husband?

>>20080763
Hololive owns the model
They pay a fraction to be able to use the model
They use our money to cover the model loan
That's how it works.

>>20080412
Bro they're Asian
Asians just find out there daughters are dating when they show up with a baby or a wedding invite

>>20075213
It's nice that you give them 0.01% leeway but that is still too one sided. I give you that it is absolutely disgusting behavior if they explicitly get their viewers hopes up while also explicitly lying about a relationship. However, that doesn't mean that they have any moral obligation to share their private life with the general public just because some faggots misinterpret their role as entertainers with that of a fucking emotional support. That one is on the gachi. If we are talking implicitness than that goes for the gachikoi too. They always oh so selflessly support their oshi's happiness until they find out that she actually is happy, at which point the aforementioned selflessness turns into the worst kind of bitter resentment.

>>20080846
Did you read my original post?
>it's an investment disguised as a product.
That being said the arrangement with viewers is still not a market one, it's arbitrary and decided by you.

>>20080763
You are an autistic weasel. Watch any of the 2views on twitch who stream with three dudes from their discord and compare it to the girls with hundreds of viewers. There are obvious rules to the industry that determines who sinks and who swims. If they want to be able to make a living off vtubing then they follow the rules.

>>20071767
She getting pegged via strap on by indogs!?

>>20081070
DELETE THIS

>>20081070
Those rules are still arbitrarily decided...

>>20081070

>>20081178
Fuck off reine

>>20079299
>this clip is in 4ch btw
Why is this so funny to me?

>>20081070
>There are obvious rules to the industry that determines who sinks and who swims
What about float? You mentioned 2views, but even within holo, niji and other corpos the vtubing job is just a sidegig. Swimming means absolute success but just scraping along by counts as a win condition if vtubing isn't the sole or primary income source.

>>20080412
>>20080822
>there's nothing wrong with me having a boyfriend
>wtf why have I stopped getting donations?

many such cases

>>20080922
>that doesn't mean that they have any moral obligation to share their private life with the general public
and yet vtubers talk about anything about their life except having a bf, I wonder why

>>20080211
actually im not entirely sure what the definition of unicorn is either

>>20075213
Their private relationships have nothing to do with their streams incel.

>>20081439
it comes from folklore where unicorns detest women that are not virgins and will even go as far as to kill them

If a female chuuba was revealed to have a girlfriend would the response be any better or worse? Would unicorns rather their chuuba have a gf than a bf because they would feel less threatened by the thought of a girl fucking their chuuba instead of some guy? Or would they be angry at the thought that they never truly had a "chance" in the first place since their chuuba was never into guys in the first place?

>>20081200
>...
Faggot. Industry standards might seem arbitrary, but ignore them at your peril. The gap between a successful vtuber and a mess like >>20081234 is as obvious as the difference between Taylor Swift and the hundreds of wannabes who will never hack it. You need to cultivate an image that will endear you to your viewers, and most viewers want the same things, even if they respect a variety of interests and talents.

>>20081571
Fans wouldn't care or would love it for the 3some fantasy.
Most guys in general don't respect lesbian relationships to begin with.

>>20081281
Funny how 4chan is once again "te Internet Hate Machine" and all the world's antis, trolls and gachikoi come from /vt/

>>20081569
so it *is* talking about me, thank you for the clarification anon

>>20071631
>Oh no no no Unicornbros not like this
She literally said it was fine...

>>20081234
She graduated by the way. All her paypigs left after the yab

>>20081571
Depends on whether the chuuba respects her fans or not. No vtuber fan wants to hear about how great this person who isn't participating in their chat, who contributes nothing to their streams is.
The second a chuuba stops paying attention to her chat is the moment that viewership starts declining. It's an interactive medium, and while the vtuber is there her viewers are meant to be the single most important thing to her.

>>20079299
Why does everyone type like they from twitter now. Even here.

She should just tell all the Hololive members that have boyfriends air it out.

>>20081625
>Industry standard
That's not an industry standard because it can't be enforced by law.
If you know anything about business you should know the place that industry standard has when it comes to contracts, lawsuits etc.
Having or not having a BF inherently can never qualify for industry standard

>>20081282
They rarely come up on /vt/, but the standards still apply to them regardless of whether they particularly care. I don't think there's any girl who doesn't want a mass of positive attention however.

>>20081571
nah most guys just see lesbian relationships as a fetish, and there's always the ones that want to fantasize about fucking a lesbian to make her ''lose to the cock''

>>20081824
*they're

>>20072509
Because the EN community is attached to the word Incel when talking about everyone but themselves.

>>20073302
Her English used to be better idk how she got worse at it. I’ve never seen someone somehow get worse at a language after being relatively good at it.

>>20081861
Autistic weasel.

>>20081877
Ina, Sana have jobs on the side
Mumei, Kana have school
There are some more I'm forgetting off the top of my head, but success to them is not the same as others because they already have a living/future living.
You cannot put them in the same criteria.

>>20072439
What the fuck is he suggesting?
Government funded Prostitutes?

If this is what Hololive thinks then why are they scared to mention them Fauna used to do it all the time but she doesn’t now.

>>20074174
fuck off teammate

>>20081749
I still find it hilarious that the last thing she did was send out what was basically a seething tweet. Dumb cunt.

>>20071767
I bet her hymen didn't broke because of indogs micro penis

>>20081926
You're the weasel. You're the one who for some reason wants to justify having a moral highground for having virgins collectively decide the value of vtubers by using objective terminology completely unrelated to the market.

Just say you're a lonely virgin who doesn't want their vtuber to have a bf and move on. No need to intellectualize anything, it's really not that serious and no one disagrees with that take, you would be in the majority.

Alfredchama... he just cant stop losing...

>>20082190
>didn't broke

>>20081386
Because, as has been said, if they don't follow the rules, they won't be successful, they won't make a living and thus won't be able to do it. Those are your rules, not theirs. I bet you'd like it for them to have to disclose shit like this, but I promise you that's not gonna happen, too bad for you I guess. It just goes to show again and again that this is what gachikoi and unicorn faggots are actually after. It's not honesty. It's just leverage. Also, it's absolutely not like they talk about anything. What they share or not share is at their disposition, which every girl handles differently. Some share considerably, yes, but even in those cases you simply can't know what else they might keep private and I don't believe I have to spell out how this is a good thing and reasonable.

>>20072919
That say a lot about mudslime education

>>20082519
씨발

>>20082190
>I bet his grammar didn't broke because of being a SEAnigger

>>20072946
indog women are tiny so...

>>20082190
>anally enlarged
>hymen
when do indogs start studying biology?

>Chuubas will overshare literally everything including mental health issues and their "depression"
>Except having a BF, that's off limits
Really makes you think.

>>20082608
나] 상관없어

>>20081571
somehow I would feel less cucked, but I have no idea why, it should be the same

>>20081824
Because most of the retards here are Twitter normalfags trying to be edgy

>>20082879
exactly, just like the one above you

>>20075948
based

>>20081571
Basically what the other replies said. Average normalfag brains seem to be completely fine with getting cucked by women. They also often have the idea that they'd be able to "fix them" with their dick etc. It's why so many GFE vtubers yuribait. They know the average viewer doesn't care if they're cucked by women, they only hate being cucked by men for some fucking reason.

>>20079299
99% of /vt/ are reddit/twitter/discord refugees

>>20082725
>Really makes you think.
Just promise me you won't hurt yourself in the process anon.

>>20080645
Ah yes I do shit and cum and I love announcing it to everyone, and yes I am retarded

>>20082194
You are too retarded to comprehend the idol business. Please never post anything ever again.

what the fuck is a unicorn

>>20082608
I bet being a mutt getting anally enlarged by the tranny niggers of the south is the reason you hate SEAniggers than actual niggers. Maybe if you stop getting doctors appointment due to Gastrointestinal Bleeding when your ass gets sodomized by niggers will you be able to stop averting your hateboner. Oh wait you do get boners from them because you love getting served the Greek special from your donkey cock niggers just like moona.

>>20083050
>I don't have an answer to that so I'll cry and bitch instead.
Nice cope.

>>20083144
Unicornio is a mount that only virgins can ride

just get an actual girlfriend if you want a relationship retards

>>20083023
Nobody asked you, though. There's your difference. And yes, you seem to be pretty retarded.

>>20083187
does it jus tmean anti boyfriend vtuber fans

>>20083354
Do you actually think what these people want is a girlfriend?? Laughable. They wouldn't even last a week in a relationship with a literal angel, let alone your average women. They only want to live out their fantasies far away from the struggles of real life. Which is fine by the way, it's just not the same which I have no doubt in my mind they wouldn't even know.

>>20083481
It means they are only fans of virgin vtubers.

>>20071987
Moona's already collabed with them... more than once...

>>20083584
I do want a girlfriend but I know that in this hedonist world I'll never find actual romance and a girl who shares the same views on sex as me. I'll continue to try and self improve in case there's a sliver of hope and sometimes I watch a vtuber who keeps their hedonism out of sight I can believe that there's still hope for me.

>>20083584
even if it's not the perfect women having someone you can mutually love and share a bed with is always going to be more ideal than sitting alone pining over women that don't know you exist

If you have a boyfriend I just wouldn't watch you. If you played the lonely girl and lied on main and personal twitter then I'll stop watching you and resent you. Simple as.

>>20083800
>>20083826
What are your benchmarks?

I could be your boyfriend anon...
I'm always here for you...

>>20084127
For physical attractiveness? To be honest my dick doesn't really have standards all that high so it's pretty lenient. All I want is a pure girl whose company I enjoy. I know I need to self improve though so I can be actually deserving of that love.

>>20079858
based

>>20072823
Members only now but you can go ask in the haaton thread... Well she didn't say fuck off but she said she doesn't want any money, any gachikoi nor is she planning on opening her superchats any time soon.
>>20072919
It was at the end after she finished the ASMR... She took about 10 minutes after the first hour just to talk before ending

>>20083023
You don't tell anyone?
I just fucked a sex doll dressed in a purple PVC nurse outfit.

>>20075335
Based

>>20075335
Literally this, I want a two way parasocial relationship, the moment it breaks, I move on

>>20075335
pretty much, I'm surrounded by turbonormalfags in my career already, I need a break/escape god dammit

>>20075335
Trouble is most women can get boyfriends and have a normal social life if they want to. Women who are loners without actively choosing that path are few and far between.

>>20078278
islam country

>>20081743
She literally says
>if you love your oshi you need to accept being cucked

>>20071631
>eunuch-horns
>>20071767
>indo chick taking indo dick
>this is supposed to be a revelation
??????????
and at any rate why in god's name do you care about the dicking status of some chick you will never meet who will never even know you exist? go out and get some bitches already.

>>20075335

>>20086717
Well that goes without saying but it shouldn't be too difficult to maintain the illusion for a couple of hours per week. Most people have to maintain a persona for their jobs anyway.

I honestly don't mind if they're normalfags with big friend groups or bfs or whatever, it's just that I don't really like feeling like I'm the third wheel or the emotional tampon when they talk about that stuff on stream. It's not very fun or entertaining. It's pretty much how like most normal dudes either don't give a shit or don't like it when their female friends vent to them about their bfs/relationships since that's supposed to be the bf's job to receive the brunt of that, not theirs.

>>20079357
Exactly, especially paypigs.

I don't think anyone cares if that fat bitch has a bf

Did people actually have trouble understanding what she's saying? I mean it's total ESL but none of it's particularly hard to understand. Maybe people here have an even low IQ than I thought.

>>20072439
He is right but he looks like a faggot, so his opinion is invalid.

>>20080450
>It has been almost a year since this happened
Time really flies.

>>20079907
Imagine

>>20071631
Based, but I still will not watch her. Not with that terrible english.

You would still love your faborit vtubber when boyfren support her from the behind yes?

>>20087467
You’re mentally ill if you care

>>20079357
This...

>>20087146
I'm ESL and even I didn't understand it as much

>>20087146
>Maybe people here have an even low IQ than I thought.
Only possible explanation. I think it's cute as fuck.

>>20080450
Genuinely cringed

>>20087066
Yeah I get what you mean but I don't think a normalfags can truely understand what it's like to be a loner. I mean this is tangential but I remember when covid lockdowns first started and people were acting like they were going insane because they couldn't go out and socialise.

That being said similarly I hate when women talk about sex because I hold the opinion that almost all women are hedonists and can obtain sex easily.

>>20087467
>support them from behind
Like Meiro?

>>20087146
It's understandable but annoying as fuck. Other anons claim she's "gotten worse" so chances are she's playing up the engrish so that retards will think she's extra cute. Granted most vtubers put on a stage voice but this is just an extra layer of cute baiting.

>>20087948
>cute baiting
>handwaving away taking dick
The wires are crossed there somewhere

I really don’t care about boyfriend shit. But why keep it a secret when you reveal pretty much everything else about yourself? There’s not one Vtuber today that try’s to stick with their character or try’s to act like they only live in the virtual world. Not to mention the fact that so many vtubers use a fake voice to try to sound “cuter” when it just sounds more grating. All I’m saying is if you have a boyfriend just say it. You can’t have the cake and eat it too

>>20088332
because only one of those things affects how much money you will receive

>>20088429
Then there really is nothing separating modern vtubers from someone like pokimane. And honestly how can you act offended and shocked when a gachikoi spergs out when you can’t even Be honest because you want more cash?

>>20087807
Well loneliness is relative as you say. I think they would be able to relate to the feeling one gets when they are lonely, but the situations they describe would look silly to some people. E.g. someone who has lots of friends and a significant other feels lonely because they're on a trip and the soonest they can see them is next week would look silly and spoiled to someone who has had no relationships for years. If the normalfag was dedicated they could easily harness those feelings, make up emotional stories that would mesh with the expected experiences of their viewers, sprinkle in some half truths, and there you go. It's manipulative yeah but it's business, and most viewers won't care as long as you can keep it up, be consistent, and not get caught breaking the illusion.

I get what you mean about women, I mean no one likes having to listen to someone who already can get and has gotten what most people would find satisfactory fairly easily, but can't get their ideal for whatever reason because it just sounds like you're listening to a spoiled child. Like listening to someone who got accepted to MIT, Yale, Stanford, and Princeton complaining because they didn't get into Harvard.

>>20088690
Well you're correct. The majority of vTubers are just e-thots tapping an unmined '2D>3D!' audience by putting on a half-assed facade. But it works so it will continue to happen

>>20088725
It reminds me of Rushia in a way. The main issue was that she sort of built up the facade of a GFE and then let it crumble live on air. It came out she was chasing mafumafu since pre-debut. The issue was mainly the fact she broke the facade though. Most guys knew it was an act but they also didn't want their immersion broken like that.

>>20088829
I really don’t know who to blame more at this point vtubers or the fanbase. I wish more vtubers were insanely loyal to their character and didn’t even acknowledge their real selfs. But of course that dosent bring in the money like current vtubing does

>>20080832
She does. Good for her.

>>20088332
100% because money.
The vast, vast majority of 'unicorn' type viewers (defining here as a supporter, either viewing or $$$, pulls their support when they learn of a bf), do NOT become antis and go on crusades making anti videos and specialized anti twitter accounts with the purpose of cancelling them.
The vast majority of those unicorn type viewers simply just... stop watching. Attention = Money in this business, and the majority of vtubers are not willing to take a %30~40 pay cut losing certain whales. (I think that was the amount Amouranth lost when it was found out she was married). Yeah you can keep making money but why take the hard debuff when you dont need to.

>>20081985
>Ina
Dull and sullen girl
>Sana
Doesn’t stream
>Mumei
Doesn’t stream, roommate’s best friend is a nigger, hoomans will never recover
>Sukoya-san
Is about to become a fucking medical doctor, and she STILL found time to do collabs and events even while under medical school crunch. Do not compare her actual profession to Ina and Sana making Chinese gacha scribbles while complaining about how hard streaming is. Maybe these Korean sluts should get a real job, like comfort woman.

>>20087807
>That being said similarly I hate when women talk about sex because I hold the opinion that almost all women are hedonists and can obtain sex easily
There's a study where they got attractive men and women to ask people on the streets for no-strings-attached sex and 100% of men said yes and less than 10% of women said yes. Males are biologically wired to give out more easily and their woes come from no one wanting them sexually while female woes come from trying to find the right mate and sex is only one of the criteria they are looking at. So I wouldn't even consider lonely females more "privileged" in the way you're describing them here since a good sex life isn't what they seek in the first place like it is for lonely men.

>>20089423
Shit like this is why I will never donate or member to any Vtuber. Why give you my money when your not even honest with your viewers yet still expect money from them?

>>20089518
I can see what you mean. Women want sex less and men always want sex so they become the limiters of sex. I suppose a woman's equivalent struggle is having enough brain cells to figure out whether someone actually likes them for who they are or if they're just looking to smash. Side note, I hate that almost all gender inequality negatives for men are enforced by men. The whole sacrificing your lives for women, paying for shit, etc. is mostly enforced by men.

if having a bf is okay then why is it still taboo to talk about it?

These fags who defend having a boyfriend know nothing of the entertainment industry. Even for men, whether it be Ricky Martin or one of the numerous boy bands, are contracted to not have a girlfriend to appeal to as many woman as possible to buy their albums. In Ricky Martin's case he had to pretend he's not a cum guzzling gay lord because women don't want to buy albums from men they can't imagine fucking. This is the basis of the industry, selling a fantasy, and for some reason women still can't figure this shit out when the men do it flawlessly.

>>20090143
Exactly man

>>20090143
Vtubers, especially the twitter ones, like to virtue signal about revealing their real face or admitting to having boyfriends while also reaping the benefits of not doing those things.

>baiting with mumers and peko when its just indog trash
Also holy ESL I had no idea her engrish was that bad.

>>baiting with mumers and peko when its just indog trash
>Also holy ESL I had no idea her engrish was that bad.

>>20090143
Because you'll get less money if you admit to having a boyfriend.

>>20087807
>people were acting like they were going insane
Meanwhile that shit was just Monday to me lol.

>>20090243
>and for some reason women still can't figure this shit out when the men do it flawlessly.
Men slip up all the time - go look at the kpop guys having shotgun weddings due to premarital pregnancies and all pg Harry Styles' bullshit. Both men and women hate having the fantasies shattered but females will be more "forgiving" relative to males who will often adopt a "burn it all down" mentality. One response is not better than the other (unless actual violence is involved) since both groups of fans were delusional idiots in the first place.

>>20072439
>gas the Japanese
Paul…

>>20089423
>The vast, vast majority of 'unicorn' type viewers (defining here as a supporter, either viewing or $$$, pulls their support when they learn of a bf), do NOT become antis
This is true, they might call the fans that stay cucks or do some shitposting but most don't become full blown antis.

Having said that if it turned out that pekora or miko or noel had bfs I would probably turn into an anti.
I don't even consider them as gfe but you can't just go around claiming to be single, not interested in men, hating on normalfags, etc. and then be a normalfag yourself.
It would feel like more than just them being in it for the money, it would feel more insulting.

>>20090546
But that is the industry. You know what you are getting into when you sign up. It's like applying to a meat processing plant and then complaining that you have to handle meat. It's like complaining that you can't swear while working in a call center.

>>20090542
Same. It was funny to me that Jessica Nigri had to "recharge" in VRChat.

Based. Imagine needing some stranger internet chick you don't know to pretend she likes you because you're too pathetic to get a relationship with an actual woman irl.

>>20090243
It's not even just the entertainment industry.
Good old uncle Adolf never married Eva because it was better for his political career to be single.

>>20072439
Yeah, Japan should kill every manlet that's under 185cm, problem solved.

>>20090840
No need to kill them, just force them to crossdress. Everybody wins.

>>20075213
It’s manipulative. Just be upfront about it. You, as a streamer, have the power to shape your fanbase to what you like. If you want fans who are supportive of your having a boyfriend you will have them. But don’t act surprised or slighted when you make less money and get smaller numbers because of it.

Or was that what you meant by “fan support” all along? $$

>>20080139
>Anything not in a contract doesn't have to be respected
And in most countries, it's 100% legal to cheat on your husband / wife.

>>20090629
>>20089423
Do you have any proof of that? You actually don't, do you? As long as you can justify your pathetic behavior, you will pull anything out of your filthy unwashed assholes, than turn around and accuse others of being dishonest or hypocritical. Faggots. This shit hugbox of a thread is worse than reddit.

you guys do know that NONE of your opinions matter right? this is exactly why you post anonymously everyday right? please?

>>20090649
Oh yeah, I agree. But I was just pointing out that people slip up in the idol industry regardless of sex. People will always want idols (so there will always be a market for parasocial relationships of some sort) but trading off the right to love someone during an idol's run always felt like a pretty steep sacrifice to me. Especially since the typical "idol" (whether it be music, streaming, Youtubing, etc.) is usually in the business during their golden years physically (teen to 30s) and you can literally fuck up your chance at building a family and shit if you are completely celibate for that whole time to uphold the fantasy to your fans. Women in particular have increasing difficulties getting pregnant past 30 and men with no dating experience as a 30-something raises a million red flags to potential partners. Ideally idols would sell parasocial relationships/fantasies without the GFE/BFE and in that regard I think some 3D streamers are making lives easier for themselves and crazy fans by playing themselves off more as "the chill friend you play games with who has a fun girlfriend" or "the cool older sister type with a boyfriend who also streams".

>>20080323
This bitch wants cuck fans to fund her and her bfs hotel rooms. Who and what are you supporting as a vtuber fan. Holos get salaries for christs sake. Ironmouse just made 500k in a fucking month.

I’m really becoming disillusioned with this whole enterprise. It seems like just another way to milk money from simps and whales.

>>20090910
Good summary I bet none of these vtubers talking about how having a boyfriend isn’t a bad thing would reveal that they have one. Vtubing has really become all about the money. I find myself watching less and less there no point watching a lot anymore

>>20080347
Based. The road up is the road down. There is no one way street. If you don’t owe me anything, I don’t owe you anything.

>>20080323
>>20091100
This random lady isn't your girlfriend, sorry to break the fantasy and tell you.

>>20071631
Love can be selfish. It's not all about pleasing the other person at the expense of your own feelings.

>>20080718
They hate to hear the truth

The streamer is not your friend , nor your girlfriend. Most people know this , stop assuming everyone is as pathetic as you.

>>20089423
Amouranth is a porn actress, people don't care if a porn actress taking a dick on screen or behind the scene.

>>20081571
Most men are not threatened by lesbian relationships. It eases the burn to know you never really had a chance anyway.

>>20083023
She was making fun of people that keep bitching to her about going to the toilet, so if you are offended then good. That tweets message got across.

>>20091100
Iron mouse is a cunt all round. I mean she pity baits hard and gets free money for it and she's a snake too. One of the earliest clips that got around was her pity baiting for medical equipment and getting instant donos.

If I wanted to see sluts with bfs I would just go outside

>>20089423
Based frogposter. This is the answer. Just repost this whenever the topic comes up again.

>>20071631
does moona have a lot of unicorns? will she recline after making this statement just like hachaama did?

>>20091055
They weren't going to have kids at that young age, so the price is barely anything. Focus on your career for a few years early on, which you should do anyway, and then you're prepared to support a family and can find a good quality husband very easily as a former idol.

>>20091409
ID girls usually have 0 unicorns or very few. Their demeanor is being wild and bratty

well, no wonder pekora dropped her

>>20091055
I shouldn't have used the word flawlessly and more that men play by the same rules that women in the industry do.
I can agree with the sentiment, but all of this is a choice. There are people who join the military and sacrifice their golden years in a desert getting shot at. This job and lifestyle is definitely not for everyone. You can set yourself up on debut to avoid this pitfall by straight announcing that you have a significant other, but don't be surprised if your market share is naturally smaller.
Personally I see the next frontier of streaming being husband/wife combos due to the ever increasing shipping community, but that opens the next can of worms being "never work with your family."

>>20091409
i can't recall the name but it was in the connor arc, where he superchat moona why did she played with kanur apex offstream.

>>20071631
Everyday I pray that Rushia really did leak a list of all the holos who have boyfriends to a bunch of dramafags. And one day soon, when one of them has nothing to lose they’ll just drop it somewhere for all to see.

>>20091001
I merely stated that women hide the bf because it's a pay debuff. I'm able to not fault women for not mentioning the bf and simultaneously not fault the men that decide to not bother to show up to their streams anymore. Same way I dont fault the waitress for feigning interest in my clothes or hair because they want to be sure they get a tip and I dont consider them 'lying deceiving hypocrite two-faced whores' because they dont show the same interest off the clock.

This is some cuckold mentality.
>you may get to hug, cuddle, even have sex with my oshi, but at the end of the day she comes home and streams to me. who's the real unicorn?

>>20091409
moona only ever inclined by leeching off pekora lmao

It's crazy how bad ID1 actually is

>>20092103
>my wife got stolen recently
>but their gained happiness exceeds my sadness
>so it's whatever I guess

how the fuck do you niggers manage to be so fucking paranoid about cuckoldry so much holy fucking shit

>tfw these retards never experienced getting their crush taken away from them

All these anti-unicorn post literally came from trannies bifags or binaryfag whatever the fuck you call these retards now.

There is no reason to support a vtuber that has a partner. It'll affect everything she does as a streamer.

If you want support then be ready to not have a romantic life for the couple years you spend as a vtuber while making big money.

>>20092329
I know trans are just trying to live their best life but honestly the rest of the world would just be happier if they stuck with their birth gender

>>20092203
dont you fucking insult the squirrel
shes funny

>>20092518

>>20092953
There is literally not one mistake in my post.

>>20086887
>go out and get some bitches
Do we REALLY want someone like this breeding?

>>20091100
That's pretty much all entertainment. Ways to milk money from you. Don't expect ir to be genuine, expect it to be well made enough to suspend your disbelief and remove you from reality for a bit to a happier place.

Btw Miko is totally genuine.

>>20091270
and I was making fun of her and people who agree with her, so if you are offended then good. That post's message got across.

>>20093033
i think you just fell for bait
or maybe its an ESL that thought you were being more ESL than them and wanted to be cool

>>20091169
>>20091128
please don't be harsh to me, I'm just a pathetic human being who never talked to a girl, random internet girl is only my hope.

>>20089517
>Doesn’t stream
Do your reps, you colossal retard!

what did sir ritter say about this?

>>20071767
yeah, me. I'm the only big dicked indog on the island.

>>20093303
a whole four inches

>>20073302
the first time she ever collabed with EN was a minecraft JP server tour
It was a disaster because Ame and Gura had no idea what she was saying half the time and just kept saying "oh wow" wherever they were lead

Then why do they all fucking hide it from the beginning? To amass gosling paypigs obviously. Fuck off, disingenuous cunts.

>>20071631
Kiara had a pretty similar take.
https://streamable.com/pbtpeg

>>20093899
Basically they allow (and sometime encourage) halu/imaginary/pretend girlfriend stuff while keeping you at a arm-length. They hide the fact that they have a boyfriend because it ruins the immersion. And expecting anything from them appart from what is on their contract with cover is off-limit.
That sounds pretty fair to me. They didn’t sign any contract with their audience and they’re nothing more than pretend girlfriends.

>>20094270
Break immersion I unsub. Simple as.

>>20094270
That's understandable of course, it's the then throwing the same people you're pandering to under the bus that's the scummy part.

>>20094270
They know the people who give them lots of money are lonely men with no social lives, those people are the main audience of idols/vtubers. Obviously the chuubas are going to have boyfriends because most of them are normal people but they shouldn't act like they don't know who their audience is.

>>20092210

>>20071631
> Doesn't drop names
> Doesn't drop status
Nothingburger, she is still my wife.

>>20095040
If she didn't have a bf or didn't know someone who has one, she wouldn't defend it so much.

>>20094958
>They know the people who give them lots of money are lonely men with no social lives
No. Gachikoi are actually a minority and not the biggest donators either. The biggest whales are the one who will stick around no matter what and the Rushia situation proved that. Gachikois and unicorns are unfaithful faggots who are more likely to drop them for any stupid reasons and didn’t give money to begin with. It’s important to keep the gachi in check to prevent unnecessary drama, but it’s not like they’d loose much money if they the gachi left.

>>20095176
Yes anon, I'm sure the people who donate hundreds of dollars to anime girl streamers are healthy and social men.

>>20095294
Of course they’re not. But they are more likely to keep donating even if a bf is revealed. They are a different kind of unhealthy than the gachikoi.

>>20095176
rushia was loyal to her fans, the mafumafu yab was just a misunderstanding, don't lump her with these dogs.

why did so many people complain about her english? she isn't american and most JPs have much worse english than that

>>20081234
give me the clip, quick, that shit is too funny

>>20095031
Kek wonder what Orca's doing now.