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Are we the baddies? What if Nijikeks were right all along?

>> No.20010836
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>>20010798

Nijinigger deserve it.

>> No.20010911

You mean, the fuckers that bullied Aloe into quitting because she said something relatively innocuous? The ones that likely worked with the Chinese to harass Coco and others? The ones that fanned the flames of the Rushia debacle? The ones that let their petty tribalism run wild every time something happens for cheap gotcha points? Nah.

>> No.20011030

>>20010798
Looks like they were right all along. Disappointed to share a fanbase with these two.

>> No.20011059

>>20010911
>t. schizo

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Your oshi will collab with men and stream with her boyfriend.

>> No.20011227

>>20010798
In the west holofags are definitely worse yeah. They regularly shit on anything and everything including hololive and their own talent's, break containment to harrass their own talent's and other companies, and flood the board with petty hate that nobody else cares about. They particularly seethe at Nijisanji of course using perceived slights from a japanese fanbase they'll never interact with as a flimsy excuse for their poor behavior. On the japanese side of things it's more balanced though you get holofags being toxic towards nijisanji and nijifags being toxic towards hololive.

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Take the small corporation pill.
They all know each other and collab together, it's super comfy.

>> No.20011605

>>20010911
>the fuckers that bullied Aloe into quitting
holofags that were angry that she wasn't a virgin
>The ones that likely worked with the Chinese to harass Coco and others?
oldfag holofags that were angry that she ruined hololive's idol culture with her vulgar american personality
>The ones that fanned the flames of the Rushia debacle?
non-vtuber fans that just love amplifying drama
>The ones that let their petty tribalism run wild every time something happens for cheap gotcha points?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
stay in your hugbox general you mental toddler. almost all of the nijifags that were around for coco or aloe drama are still on /jp/ anyway. the nijiJP thread on here gets like a dozen posts per day.

>> No.20011649

>>20011605
dude, just ignore that schizo. in a sea of enjou he looks only at the nijischizos and try to pin all the blame on them

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>>20011605
epbp

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>>20010798
The current score is 0-2 with the blood all on the Nijikeks' hands, so no, they more thandeserve it.

>> No.20011775

The Aloe thing is real and you can't convince me otherwise you ENniji newfags who don't even know what people are talking about.

>> No.20011804

>>20011318
Didn't they blacklist Tsun and Cyber?

>> No.20011813

>>20010798
Always has been

>> No.20011828

>>20011745
>>20011775
look, he called his discord friends that also go spamming youtube chats with aloe pfps

>> No.20011850

>>20011775
It's the same shit tribalfags always do. Find any examples of nijisanji fans behaving poorly place all blame for the incident on the entire nijisanji fanbase and completely ignore any other factors and actors that may have been involved.

>> No.20012635

>>20011318
this post reminds me at that smug VOMSfag rambling about them being yab free

>> No.20012701

>>20011804
I don't know who "they" is, but in my opinion Tsunderia is the best corporation ever. They've been around for longer than HoloEN, and they have some really great talents. Miori, Amiya, Lisa, they're great.

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>>20010798
Esta pa ti Nijinigger

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>>20010798
>Are we the baddies? What if Nijikeks were right all along?
There's no lower lifeform than the drama tribalfag.

>> No.20012809

>>20010911
Nijiniggers are based? Uh wtf bros

>> No.20012950

Someone please post the niji falseflaggers during this whole Rushia mess.

>> No.20013002

>>20011804
I don't blame them for avoiding cl, besides all but one of their first gen leaving they also had discord dates for sale on debut

>> No.20013146

>>20012635
what happened to voms?

>> No.20013254

>>20012950
Ironically that "evidence" people post like it's meaningful is a perfect example of this >>20011850 people specifically searching out the examples of the group they want to blame. And even then half the examples were awful supposed nijifags that only commented once on one niji stream, or even wrote an anti comment. All the while the holofag tribalist will happily ignore the hundreds of thousands of Nijisanji fans not involved and blame everything on "nijisanji" because they managed to scrape up 6 examples of dickheads who happened to be nijisanji fans among all the dickheads.

>> No.20013309

>>20013002
People suspect their first gen just had short contracts since they're all graduating around the same time. CL lets them keep their models after leaving so it's not a terrible deal being a corpo for a few months in exchange for a free model.

>>20012635
Small corpos have plenty of yabs but nobody notices on here because 90% of the discussion is hololive yabs and holofags amplifying nijifag yabs for drama. For example the recent rumors around Aruru's graduation from Kawaii where she was supposed to have a graduation stream and didn't even bother showing up for it so they released a pre-made video instead. Very strange situation.

>> No.20013379

>>20010798
always has been

>> No.20013440

>>20012749
baka whyd you give pomu her tits back?

>> No.20013504

>>20010798
NijiEN fans are annoying because they are just holoEN fans or Twitter sjws. NijiJP fans are even worse because they are super cliche based and attack their own livers more than they attack hololive.

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>>20010798
Why does this gura face always make me feel remorse for something I didn't even do?

>> No.20013719

I won't forget them for celebrating the Holocaust.

>> No.20013863

>>20013719
As someone that was actually there it wasn't so much "celebrating" as saying "told you so".
Nijifags were telling newfag Holo fans for months that their company was on thin ice and Holofags just bragged about their superior game variety without having to care about permissions. Then the Holocaust struck and Holofags rushed to blame Nijifags just because the company was incompetent.
Expect this to happen again with unarchived karaoke permissions eventually as well. Can't wait for all the "Nijisanji did this!!!" shitposts from those retards who are totally incapable of acknowledging Hololive's actual incompetence.

>> No.20013908

>>20013863
>>20013719
What's the Holocaust

>> No.20013950

>>20010798
>Nijikeks
>right
choose one

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>>20011605
>>20011649
Holy shit the Nijicope is real.

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>>20013908
holocaust deez nuts

>> No.20014212

>>20014010
that handpicked compilation was 100% all enjou rushia got. why bother proving our point?

>> No.20014441

Define "we."

Cover? Not really, it's just a company and they're trying to make money the best way they can. The girls? Again, no, at the end of the day they're employees and have to follow the rules that the higher-ups set.

The fanbase? Yes, Holo fans are easily the worst, most shit-eating group of faggots that exists on the internet. Apple fanboys, religious extremists, and actual legitimate bronies pale in comparison.

>> No.20014502

>>20014212
Find a handful of examples of trannies commenting on a hololive stream and it's fair to characterize the entire fanbase as trannies according to holofag logic.

>> No.20014534

>>20010911
>defending whores
Kill yourself you pathetic simp fuck

>> No.20014622

>>20014441
agreed except that bronies are worse than holofags but largely only because holofags are only as bad as the stupidest normalfag tourist while bronies on average have severe autism.

>> No.20014649

>all this conjecture ITT
People don't like tribalfags for being retards. It's that simple. I watch people from NijiEN, NijiJP, HoloJP and HoloEN. I like them all in varying degrees and for different reasons, but they're all good streamers at the end of the day. I just don't think numbers = talent, or inversely, that hololive carries people as a brand and all of Niji are "better" entertainers.

>> No.20014699

>>20010836
based

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>>20011745
>>20012749
>>20013950
>defending a company

>> No.20014915

>>20011059
>>20011605
>>20012809
>>20014534
Look at these worthless little shits crawling out of the woodwork to defend Niji and attack Hololive. Nijiniggers are fucking disgusting.

>> No.20014940

>>20010798
Even if we are, Nijikeks deserve the bullying.

>> No.20014974

>>20014915
>attack Hololive
?????????????

>> No.20015018

>>20014915
see
>>20014894

>> No.20015072

>>20014649
hololive objectively does carry people as a brand.
you really think Sana deserves 4000 ccv the once a month she streams?
that's not even a criticism of the company, having brand power is a good thing, but it does invalidate all the numberfagging from holofags when 90% of their subs are dead box subs.
I wouldn't even say all of NijiEN are better than all of HoloEN, Mumei and Gura and sometimes Ame or Mori can be really entertaining, but as a whole NijiEN livers have to work harder for their subs/views.

>> No.20015148

>>20014649
>but they're all good streamers at the end of the day
No, they aren't. Get some fucking self respect simp faggot.

>> No.20015252

>>20015072
I meant as blank statements. Sure, I can agree someone like Marine deserves her numbers, while someone like Kronii doesn't, whereas a NijiEN like Pomu does.
But the extremes, both good and bad, don't define these two companies. I steer clear of people I dislike. Sana is an interesting case: I like her energy as a vtuber and everything but her Pokemon shit entertains me, but I cannot excuse her laziness. I guess I am just glad I am not a hardcore Sanalite.

>> No.20015266

>>20015148
this. applies for both companies as both had questionable choices as streamers

>> No.20015269

>>20010798
You managed to bait yet another tribalfag thread. Well done OP.

>> No.20015304

>>20015252
>blank statements
Blanket, I meant. Morning brain.

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Stop falseflagging. You don't have the IQ for it.

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>>20010798
NijiEN are numberfags. How are we the baddies?

>> No.20015485

>>20014894
>we're a cancerous tumour that keep harassing all your chuubas and even our fucking dipshits can't help but talk shit behind their back while playing nice on Twitter but actually we're just attacking Cover why aren't you defending a company lmao
Kill yourself.

>> No.20015506

>>20015252
I'd say Nijisanji EN has a much better work culture that discourages lazy leeches like Sana. Their streamers actually stream 4-6 times a week so you can more easily decide who you like and who you don't based purely on their content rather than their work ethic. Some like Reimu often stream 8 times a week with multiple double streams due to collabs. If someone like Kronii were there she'd probably be motivated to work much harder to not stand out as the leech of the branch, and elevate her content as a result. Even Rosemi who worked a high-stress full time job until today and had the lowest stream hours of the branch as a result still had more hours per week streamed than all of HoloEN except Kiara/Bae/Mori. Now that's not to say streaming more = better content but Hololive would do well to take this criticism and learn from it rather than blindly seething at Nijisanji. I wish Hololive streamed that much, if Gura actually did 5 streams a week there'd be a lot more quality content for her fans and she'd have a healthier lifestyle due to not falling into depression in the middle of the week all the time.

>> No.20015554

>>20015409
Numberfags would watch Vshojo or IRL streamers. If you have to contend this, you aren't a numberfag

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>>20015506
>I'd say Nijisanji EN has a much better work culture that discourages lazy leeches like Sana. Their streamers actually stream 4-6 times a week so you can more easily decide who you like and who you don't based purely on their content rather than their work ethic. Some like Reimu often stream 8 times a week with multiple double streams due to collabs. If someone like Kronii were there she'd probably be motivated to work much harder to not stand out as the leech of the branch, and elevate her content as a result. Even Rosemi who worked a high-stress full time job until today and had the lowest stream hours of the branch as a result still had more hours per week streamed than all of HoloEN except Kiara/Bae/Mori. Now that's not to say streaming more = better content but Hololive would do well to take this criticism and learn from it rather than blindly seething at Nijisanji. I wish Hololive streamed that much, if Gura actually did 5 streams a week there'd be a lot more quality content for her fans and she'd have a healthier lifestyle due to not falling into depression in the middle of the week all the time.

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>>20015554

>> No.20015657

>>20015485
>keeps attacking the fanbase because can't really get anything concrete to jump on the streamers
>meanwhile two menhera whores had to graduate for burning themselves, this would've happened without any input from nijischizos
cope

>> No.20015661

>>20015409
>NijiEN are numberfags
just go over to /#/ for a few minutes if you think it's Nijifags that are the numberfags.
those retards are so far up Hololive's ass that they're reporting Nijisanji channels to Youtube for "botted views" because they were bitter over Luca's song cover and Noctyx debuts.

>> No.20015683

>>20015506
>but Hololive would do well to take this criticism and learn from it rather than blindly seething at Nijisanji
The only one seething here are the Nijisanjis. Honestly, I'm downright astonished at the lack of professionalism from the entire group.

>> No.20015684

>>20015485
Take your meds you fucking nutjob

>> No.20015705

ITT: console wars: vtuber edition
Fucking manchildren

>> No.20015728

>>20015506
Idk about all that, I'll just leave it at me having problems with Kronii herself. I find her boring and unentertaining solo. She has more spunk in collabs, but her content ain't for me, laziness or otherwise.

>> No.20015761

>>20011059
They actually sound mentally ill its crazy

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>>20014212
>>20014502
Ain't that what you're doing too tho?

>> No.20016023

>>20015807
nta but nijifags told people to fuck off from their threads during the rushia drama when they tried to bring it there. don't recall seeing the same thing from holofags who still keep spamming the nipplesanji forced meme exclusively on this board. can't really say it was all tourists when even the holofag jannies refuse to do anything about all the anti-niji spam on the catalog.

>> No.20016081

>>20015683
their deflection techniques are so overused its too obvious
>livers literally shit talking holos
>"its the holos that are seething"

>> No.20016173

>>20016081
nonono
you don't understand
it's the holofags from /vt/ that are seething, everywhere else this was deemed a nothingburger

>> No.20016190

>>20012749
>said while flaming drama about a certain tribe
peak irony

>> No.20016194

>>20013309
I was wondering why there wasn't even a thread for it when the fish from Prism got a thread.

>> No.20016238

>>20016023
>This board = 100% of the Holofanbase

Really? point is those faggots calling out handpicked comments when they are also handpicking stuff.

>> No.20016258

>>20013309
Another example is the WACTOR lawsuit and doxx that did get some threads but died out within a day.

>> No.20016315

>>20016173
Basically this. hololivers are living rent free in nijilivers but nijilivers are living rent free in holobrony vt losters

>> No.20016323

>>20016238
now point where what you claim he said was in his comment

>> No.20016397

I don't even watch the streams anymore, I just enjoy the drama.

>> No.20016485

>>20016323
>Nijifags handpicking stuff to blame Holo
>Holofag then handpicks stuff to blame Niji
>Y-You can't do that!!!
>You doing the same tho
>NTA but this board-
>The board ain't 100% of Holofags
>(You) being retarded

Now point where the amerimutt education system failed to teach you reading comprehension.

>> No.20016530

>>20010798
ugly ass vtuber

>> No.20016536

>>20016485
ok you're actually retarded gotcha

>> No.20016626

>>20010798
Right about what? Bitching that their best and brightest failed to get into Hololive before settling for Nijisanji?

>> No.20016648

>>20011605
ogey fullgay. nobody believes you though

>> No.20017250

>>20016397
Based unityfag

>> No.20017371

>>20017250
do you genuinely not know what unity is?

>> No.20017413

>>20017371
Are you a retard?

>> No.20017485

>>20016173
feels like they're just trying to rile up nijifans, just like the nipplesanji spam.

>> No.20017931

>>20015705
What else are you supposed to when streams are boring nowadays?

>> No.20017964

>>20017931
Literally anything else besides be here

>> No.20018073

>>20013606
Confess your sins to the shark anon. There’s something you’re not telling us.

>> No.20018202

>>20017931
>watching streams
ngmi

>> No.20020657

>>20016397
This but unironically

>> No.20022413

>>20010798
idk man.
hololive is indeed getting bigger and bigger, but it feels like there are things happen internally within Cover that make some of the girls stressed out and gradually lose their motivation.
The fanbase are also changed. There are too many schizos now.
The last time I had fun was probably during the yonkisei era before the taiwan yab.

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>> No.20025363

>>20010911
just rrats

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>holobronies actually trying to justify spamming CP
You’ve lost your minds.

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>>20010798

>> No.20032419

Pomu wanted war. All out war. Blame her.

>> No.20032499

>>20010911
Pretty insane the newfag deflection replying to this, nijifags have really destroyed the culture along with vwhorejo

>> No.20032699

>>20015684
that implies his shitty area even has meds

>> No.20032981

>>20032180
I want to see Fulgur say i'm sorry while getting pegged by Sana

>> No.20033478

>>20032499
the schizo culture from whatever discord you came from is not the representation of reality

>> No.20035660

>>20010798
i kneel

>> No.20036737

>>20010911
Having outlived all those events I think I'll never ever see a niji besides HSKW

>> No.20036978

>>20013908
The permission arc, search for subaru voids in jp and you'll see.

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