/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Miko postponed her stream to 23JST https://youtu.be/eo0Xaba1LEQ

mac n' cheese

https://nyaa.si/view/1364579

I'll just put the link to the unedited TokiMemo2 stream here, shouldn't be long until some others can seed

What happened? Why does her vid has over 300 dislikes?

>>1998227
Fujos, nijifags and rabbit antis.

>>1998246
Show me proof that any nousagis are joining in this shit

>>1998246
Are they really mad about the doujinshi prank? That's pathetic.

>>1998064
this is the author of said doujin.

He writes cover is in contact with him, he acknowledges them privating the video for now and is waiting for the whole thing to calm down.

Doesn't matter if you're EOP, ESL, JSL, let them handle it, don't go out shitting up other places, it'll only give them more fire.

He explicitly states in his bio he won't sue(訴訟しません), total lockdown and delete fucking everything attitude, they'll clear it behind the doors, miko will issue a small apology and everything will be just fine.

>>1998334
As with the permissions situation, the Aloe situation, the janitor situation and every other retarded thing they're not mad about supposedly breaking copyright laws from the doujin, it's the usual NND and nijinigger antis who will use any excuse to attack Holo talents

>>1998379
If Miko has to apologize i will ruin the rest of that faggots life.

>>1998379
Sue over reading the title and the back of a book?
Are these people that far gone from reality that they think thay can sue for that?

>>1998111
I have a bad feeling about all this, I hope it blows over soon

>>1998334
There are a lot of people on 5ch and NND who categorically hate vtubers and will either join or outright manufacture controversies in order to fuck over a vtuber because they can. Think your average denizen of /a/, /v/, or /r9k/ yet even more schizo/loathsome.

The faggot artist's dms seem to be open. Will send my regards

>>1998497
they were laughing at the book. also, monetizing and allowing superchats while laughing at the doujin seems p. scummy.

very very grey area, really. but perhaps mikochi/senchou didnt know any better.

>>1998603
I thought chinks are not allowed to come here?

>>1998497
i'll give the author the benefit of the doubt that he was thinking nobody would listen to him whine anyways. the close fucking everything approach right now gives it away, he didn't know what kind of goliath he pokes.

Bet he was only assmad that they laughed at his product.

>>1998603
the main content of the stream was tokimemo, roughly 9:54h of it.
The time spent reading the title and that one line off the back of the doujin as well as commenting on it amounts to roughly less than a minute. I hope they can agree to share profits so the author will get his fair share of 20 yen he contributed to this stream.

>>1998638
>implying i am a chink

>>1998603
They were not laughing at the book, they were laughing because Miko put it in the freezer as a prank to Marine, Miko even said it's one of her favorite doujin on that very stream

>>1998497
Doubt it? Sunrise will need to get involve since they own Gundam and that can't end well for doujin artist.

some seeders seem to have downloaded enough so the archive DL will pick up speed now, thanks!

>>1998603
Try actually watching the stream with Japanese knowledge before embarrasing yourself next time.
They didn't laugh AT the book or mock it at any point during the stream.

Damn those dislikes are actually going up

>>1998658
Are you actually autistic?
You think Sunrise doesn't know about doujinshis?

>>1998747
It's just a few fags with their smart fridges, most of them will be removed by the time the stream starts

so the fuck what? they'll just take a break for a week or two, have a comeback stream and make a lot of money
win win

Okay, what the fuck happened just after the mori self doxx? If i am reading this thread right, miko is somehow in trouble because senchou and she were using a doujin for a prank?

>>1998737
they actually praised it for the artwork and laughed at the sheer ridiculousness of their situation, but just like the EOPs a lot of Japanese Niwaka faggots are only clipwatchers

>>1998766
not him, seems people discussing this on twitter are blowing it WAY out of the water

>>1998603
scummy doesn't mean it's illegal

are you gonna sue every book reviewer out there who bashes your book and quoted a few lines?

They have literally nothing and Cover should've just ignored it.

>>1998766
You retarded? How is the author going to sue when said product has Gundam characters.

>>1998379
>is waiting for the whole thing to calm down.
Why isn't this faggot doing a public dogeza and begging for forgiveness? Does he really think he can just private his account and wait for it to blow over after causing a shitstorm that is going to cause a huge headache for Miko and Marine?

>>1998897
It's already dying down trend wise. Nothing big will come from it. Probably just an apology and move on.

>>1998898
>Cover should've just ignored it.
you realize what this company is right? and how bad they are
despite all the money their talent make, its forever a small indie company, please understand.

>>1998968
Hopefully that guy will never be able to unprivate again without a flood of replies calling him a faggot in every tweet he makes from now on

>>1998963
it's basically what he's doing on his twitter timeline, cut the dude some slack

>>1998968
really hope it does

>>1998379
>He explicitly states in his bio he won't sue

On what possible grounds could this nigger ever hope to sue anyone over this, considering it's a fucking doujin of an already copyrighted work we're talking about?

>>1999161
it's even more hilarious when you understand that doujin scene has literally no law backing them up, they just exist because the companies that owns the characters used allow them to be. He could be easily shut down himself if the company bothered.

>>1999161
Tell that to the antis who took his rrat and ran with it.

>>1999230
I wonder if we could pressure the company that owns the rights to shut the cunt down. They're Japanese so they'll bow at the first sign of controversy I can't imagine it would be too hard

>>1999264
japanese anti-antis are already on the case summoning armchair-lawyers on the case, if you know some japanese or look through the trend with your translator handy it's quite hilarious to see.

>>1999260
Antis are inherently brain damaged, it's to be expected from them.

>>1999383
I don't understand what was going through his head. Did he think people were going to side with the degenerate who draws homosexual anime pornography over cute girls? What the fuck was he thinking.

>>1999429
I don't think much at all, since he was posting to twitter. would he actually think he'd be in the right to sue here he'd have gotten a lawyer and taken the case to cover to settle, this was poorly thought out and he (I bet she) knows judging from the complete shutdown. Must be a slow monday with so many bored people piling on.

>Miko stream getting antis

Here's what happened for anyone curious.
Miko and Marine bring up a BL doujin of SNK on stream, they discuss the plot a bit and poke fun at it. Apparently Miko left it in the fridge to prank Marine.

The original author gets mad on Twitter, his complaints are along the lines of 'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'.

Deletes their account after a larger account finds their tweets and republishes them.

VOD of the stream is privated before the controversy really picks up any steam.

Various related hashtags are now trending on Japanese twitter, Miko seems to be more of the target than Marine.

Most of the tweets are either mad at Miko, discussing the legality of doujinshi/reading doujinshi in streams or making fun of the 'controversy' in general

Certain elements are trying to dislike bomb Marine and Miko's recent streams.

>>1999576
>Deletes their account after a larger account finds their tweets and republishes them.
He locked it, didn't delete it

>>1999576
She didn't read the Doujin on stream and there's nothing illegal or even unethical about making fun of some fags homoerotic drawings publicly.

>>1999576
>The original author gets mad on Twitter, his complaints are along the lines of 'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'.
Kek that bit was just what, less than 5% of the entire stream?

>>1999576

If the Hero Cuck is gonna make a video about this, I want the doujin artist to ask him for a cut too.

>>1999702
He most probably is an immature moron. But there is always a possibility that it was calculated. From what I hear, this was a pretty much no-name creator who took the opportunity to create some noise (thereby getting their name out there).

As soon as his tweets started getting traction, he privated his account and is now just biding his time for the storm to pass over.

You know what they say - No such thing as bad publicity.

>>1999672
Pretty much, the artist is just an envious butthurt idiot.

>>1999702
1 minute out of 645 minutes is 0.15503875969% of the stream.
Let's just assume they made 450.000 yen that stream (~$4500), the number totally out of my ass, he'd be entitled to 697.67 yen and that's without 30% going to youtube.
Cover would be wiser to calculate that for him and paypal him 1000 yen in compensation IF and only if he publicly tells the people they have made an agreement and the thing is settled.

>>1998379
Fucking piece of shit faggot, I swear to God. That fucking entitled piece of shit should be glad his piece of shit doujin was mentioned anywhere at all. I hope he joins the percentage.

>>1999917
They made ~$2000 according to playboard

>>1999917
Forget that I want Cover to get a public apology from this cunt. I only wish I knew enough about JP law to determine if the statements and incitement of the public amount to libel.

>>1999576
>Miko and Marine bring up a BL doujin of SNK on stream, they discuss the plot a bit and poke fun at it. Apparently Miko left it in the fridge to prank Marine.
>The original author gets mad on Twitter, his complaints are along the lines of 'Why is it that Miko and Marine can profit from making fun of my work, whilst I'm not earning any money at all from that?'.
holy based i dont even watch miko that much but ill get a membership now alongside marine

>>1999969
Marine should draw a parody of his doujin where she futa fucks him until he admits he's a worthless sissy faggot

>>1998379
Apologize for what, liking his doujin? This idiot thinks he should get royalties from the sc she earned while on the prank

>>1999576
Why are doujin artists so fucking whiny?

>>2000144
Bitter they couldn't hack it in the actual manga industry

So the absolute nigger @naiz0n "protected" his twitter after that? lmao this faggot is just as bad as the western fat blue haired womyn that "fix" other people art by making them fat and transgender.

>>1999962

So the money the author is whining about, considering what he actually contributed to the stream, amounts to a whopping 310.08 yen, or about $3.

$3. The whole internet is at war over $3.

>>2000144
don't generalize, there's been authors in support of VTubers giving out general permission to cite their works freely, even inviting talents to review it without restrictions on stream plopping out over this drama.

>>2000160
If only we could sic the blue hairs on the doujin artists and let the problem sort itself out

>>1999576
>discussing the legality of doujinshi/reading doujinshi in streams
>reading a fucking doujinshi that uses characters and settings and names from IPs that do not belong to the faggot making those without paying anything in the first place
Does sticking things up your ass make you fucking retarded or something?

>>1999576
So he bitched about vtubers making mad bank and he is a poor fag. Funny he brought up the issue of "using his work" in a 1 min conversation of a prank while he is using copyrighted characters as his own work to sell. Talk about hypocrisy.

>>2000181
Like 15% of neural activity takes place around the gut so probably, yes

>>2000197
The sad thing is is that if he wasn't absolutely fucktarded he could've actually used the exposure to get some more sales and make hundreds of times more money than he's going to get for kicking up his little shitstorm. He doesn't deserve to be successful because he's so shit at basic business.

>>2000160
you can still send them private messages. Get creative.

>>2000245
in his complaints he already stated the doujin is long out of print, which makes the situation even more retarded. should've just made like 500 more copies jesus fuck

>>1998334
niggers

>>2000305
He could've even sold them to Fakku and put a big fat "As seen on Hololive" on it and made a few hundred bucks just off people buying it for the meme. What a retard.

an 11 hour stream privated because of some yaoi faggot..

>>2000399
They're going to cut out the funniest bit because of him. Lucky it's already been clipped a dozen times

>>2000264
Right

>>2000000

>>2000264
>>2000453
Please see >>1998379 and don't actually do that, at this point you're just fanning the flames.

>>2000482
>at this point you're just fanning the flames.
We didn't the fire, at this point might as well make sure it burns the fag who lit it as much as it hurts the holos

>>2000514
If you don't understand how that would just give hololive a bad name you need to get out more.

>>2000531
I'm not affliated with Hololive in any way. I don't represent them and I can do whatever the fuck I want up to and including trolling some fuckwit slant eye short dick nip on twitter.

>>2000557
Fine, whatever, but please be smart about it and don't just sent him gore and goatsee while having miko as your avatar.

>>2000482
>>2000531
Not them but fuck him, he deserves all the criticism he gets for this stupid shit he pulled. Especially since he didn't fucking issue an apology, the minimum I expect from him. He can say what he will to Cover but what he did was put out a statement on a public forum, hence any criticism coming his way is his own issue. What you're implying is Cover and Hololive should be at fault for statements made regarding someone else's public statement (which in some places could amount to libel), by people not affiliated with them.

>>1998603
>monetizing and allowing superchats while laughing at the doujin seems p. scummy.
you just implied that they cant monetize zatsudan streams when they talk about topics from different media and what not.

>>2000578
>he does exactly this just to spite you
>fag/cunt melts down
>cover somehow gets wind of this
>miko graduates due to mental breakdown of her fans being a bunch of rabid internet white knight warriors

will have happened already anyways but please could we not

>>2000587
No but spamming his dm with hatemail in the name of hololive is not going to win anyone any favours.

>>2000617
Calm down, I just sent him a pic of a nuke a said 2 wasn't enough

>>1998379
Fuck this greedy as fuck nigger. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST USE IT AND CREDIT THE OWNER?????

>>2000630
>in the name of
Who said it was in the name of Hololive? It's against public acts of slander.

>>2000630
who says it needs to be hatemail, retard.

>>2000482
>letting cover handle anything
At this point they'll just ask miko to make a dogeza video.

>>2000652
panties shot incoming!

>>2000636
guess he already got some of those so that's fine for me

>>2000643
>>2000647
As long as you know that then it's good.

>>2000647
>>2000636

best we can do now is wait for miko's stream in2 hours while scanning her and marin's twitter for any hints as to how cover plans to react to this.

>>1998379
there's no "waiting this to be over" Mizuryu shit happened months ago and he hasn't shown any signs of recovery.

yea, he/she fucking has to do public dogeza and lick some shoes to get few notable accounts to retweet it, because alternative route is life in the woods or rope in the ceiling.

>>2000693
Speak of the devil
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1376499903485018112
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1376499377217228806

>>2000641
Because Japan

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1376499377217228806

from the Ahoy! thread

>>2000705
beat me to it

tl:
We seem to have rustled the authors jimmies and apologize, this won't happen again in the future

basically nothingburger.

>>1998379
>its about money again
bloody hell, everyone seems to immediately take the opportunity if it means they can leech of hololive. he's probably regretting it now after that shit he pulled, hope his future works doesn't find success.

>>2000705
Why are all the replies pretending that this apology was even remotely warranted.

>>2000760
Because otherwise antis will latch onto the fanbase being toxic

>>2000760
Because people are stupid as fuck and always will be.

Miko dogeza incoming?

>>2000760
Japanese shitty humble mentality

>fujos
>chinks
>k-fags
The trinity of insanity.

>>2000760
If anything, the faggot artist should be the one apologizing for stirring up shit over 1 minute long skit of 10+ hours long stream.

>>2000705
How shit, Miko and Marine weren't in the wrong. Now Cover looks weak and every fag out there will take this opportunity to make Cover bend the knee in the future if the girls do anything fags don't like.

>>2000856
Cover bending over to some twitter SJWs.

absolutely-fucking-pathethic

https://mobile.twitter.com/ippanseven
Oh no no no, we're called overseas pigs.

i'm getting incredibly sick of cover's shit. i unironically believe those people that say you can get arrested and shamed for defending yourself against violence, now. bunch of cucks. how did japan make it as far as they did when they bend over and present their asshole to anyone they even slightly piss off? reminds me of the germans.

>>2000856
>>2000866
Just when i thought cover might have redeemed themselves by getting chamers schizo vids back up.

>>2000845
Yeah, no matter how you look at it, the artist is at fault and very hypocritical. You know who profits off of other people's work? Reviewers (and his piece of shit ass as well). Will they have to fork over money as well if those original IP owners decide to sue? Look to actual laws and not twitter idiots. It's not that hard.

>>2000904
So who wants to send a screamer his way?

>>2000856
>Now Cover looks weak
Look weak? They are weak. Like all Japanese. Disgustingly subservient. It's why they never managed to create a great empire like Rome.

>>2000904
what did they mean by this? If I wrote a book review and quoted a few lines, am I infringing copyright too?

Update: apparently this author refers to themselves as female. Or maybe it's a tranny, idk.

>>2000963
I don't get it? Cover had no problem shitting on that one fag who bitched online about Alternative.

>>2001006
if you are this dude, please leave

>>2001023
why am I not surprised?

>>2000705
It blows my mind the fag got away with it. I'm actually pissed.

So now are we moving from the Coco Arc to the Miko/Marine Arc?

>>2001144
Except it's Japanese BL fans this time not chinks. I'm surprised theres enough of them to rack up 1.5k dislikes on the collab stream.

>>2001144
No its a Japanese yab. It'd be just like the janitors, at worst it'll last for a week.

>be me, not interested in vtubers at all, reading jap twitter as usual
>see "doujinshi recital" trending
>look it up
>see metric fucktons of vitriol being spewed around
>look up the source of the commotion
>some vtuber read a gay yaoi doujin out loud on stream
>this is supposedly a "bad thing"
you vtuberniggers are really something special

>>2001023
>>>/pol/
doesn't matter retard the fact is Marine and Miko are allowed to parody (laugh at ) a BL doujin even in Japan and they're are in no way infringing on copyright, this isn't about sex/gender full stop

>>2001207
Yeah it's the vtubers fault for not dogezaing hard enough for the insane yaoi fags, retard

>>2001207
Nice blog.

>>2001207
If you don't know shit about the problem, you should just shut up.

>>2001207
Here's the thing, though: they didn't even read it on stream, one of the girls simply read a quote off the back of the book - hell, they actually praised it for the artwork, and Miko even said it's one of her favourite doujin on that very stream.

It's literally some hypocritical doujin fuckwit getting salty over nothing.

wtf bros? I thought the nips were based?

>>2001341
No they're pretty much always been bugmen who only managed to industrialize with the charity of white people

>>2001207
Stay mad Touhou fag, I'm glad your board is forever ruined

Alright alright, everyone, go read the fucking members post. Keep it in mind while you write anything.

>>2001399
Marine or Mikos

>>2001431
Migoti

>>2001324
the real problem is not even the author herself, she backpedalled IMMEDIATELY after getting 200x her usual attention fix from her hugbox, nay it spiralled into everyone and their dog and of course the american twitter world police going into full meltdown over it which caused cover to let them issue those apologies.

Basically a statement to make the idiot masses shut the fuck up already over literally nothing. And the EN fans of course are there in a severe case of "oh well but I can't read" readying their internet katana to protect the innocence of their virtual maiden. It's very tiresome.

>>2000906
If you have not figured this is how their society works you're retarded.

>>2001483
i have figured it out, i'm criticizing it, genius.

>>2001460
Hey if Japanese "men" are unable to step up and protect their women from this bullshit then big dick western bulls have to do it for them

>>2001460
I don't disagree that the EOPs aren't helping and should shut up, but it's an incredible stretch to accuse either of any wrongdoing in this case and the nips are just being cucks about it like usual

>>2001460
>And the EN fans of course are there in a severe case of "oh well but I can't read" readying their internet katana to protect the innocence of their virtual maiden.
The fuck are you talking about, practically no one on the en side even knew about this before the apology tweet, and if you're talking about their reactions to the tweet its not like the JOPs aren't doing it either

And people still wonder why they chase after EOP money

>>2001460
Has the author apologized to miko and/or marine at least? Miko and marine actually praised the doujin during the stream but this is what they got.

>>2001622
Yeah luckily EOPs don't cancel anyone over trivial bullshit

>>2000906
how the fuck does cover not have the money to have a corporate lawyer ready to send threatening letters to fuckers who want to stir up shit at this point?

>>2001654
No, and they're still in discussions it seems.

>>2001622
Funny you say this, nips are saying the same thing about Towa. Since you are practically adopted with 50% overseas, why even care any risk of backlash if there no nips around to care about.

Same goes to Mori Atlus begging stream it will just fade into obscurity. I mean sure EOP cancelling are caused by other types of shit, but at least they aren't mentally retarded over a MERE mention. Maybe the closest thing to this trivial bullshit would be English speaking Kpop stans.

>>1998267
https://twitter.com/komiyadesu_/status/1376502180115488774

>>2001729
There's probably the question over how long EOPs can be milked though. Hololive is a bit of a fad in the west helped along by COVID lockdowns. You can already see a serious decrease in engagement for EN from where they were last year. I think Japanese gachikois are more reliable in the long term while the western fanbase is slowly going to dwindle as people start to lose interest in the novelty of live action anime you can interact with.

>>2001725
the author's twitter bio seems to update a lot over the day today, always adding more and more "pls stop already" to the mix.

something nobody even mentioned here so far is this bit of info I totally missed in the context, source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgPSl_vYfP8

apparently they got the coupling wrong and the author was also pissed about that. holy fucking shit fujoshi.

This incident reminds me of fubuki sakuna incident where she got 6k dislikes. The sakuna author got baited by schizo rats and his tweet got twisted and used against her. Fubuki just get on with her stream and 5ch comments about fubuki after that is this woman has balls of steel. Sorta wish miko and marine didn't apologize for something they never did wrong, this will only empower the antis.

>>2001841
But Marine corrected it right afterwards...

>>2001697
why do you think mizuryu or this artist deleted their tweets so fucking fast?

>>2001841
The author is completely unhinged and deserves all this bullshit being thrown back in her face.

>>2001835
"can interact with" is also dwindling with ever bigger numbers frankly, when you could once just join chat in japanese and get picked nowadays you're lucky to get your topical superchat read. dudes coming in for this will disappear at some point or look for ever new indies to read their retarded names.

>>2001341
This might come as a shock, but the nips aren't conservative so they'll never be based. The nips are "moderates" which is libtard lite.

Doesn't take away I like Hololive and eastern vtubers, but I would never take a bullet for them or put a ring on their females.

>>2000144
There's plenty of based ones

>>1998379
this faggot DARES to make my Miko sad?

>>2001855
it's a butterfly effect of bullshit at this point. the clip was fucking harmless, the author cunt and her rabid fans blew it way out of proportion, half japan for some fucking reason has an opinion on the matter without even having watched the video, now the apologies came out and a potential 2 million people (less because overlapping fanbases and dead accounts but you get the point) plus the people following japanese twitter trends (which over today included "reading from doujins" to "sakura miko" and now "Vs in a shitstorm") jump in to either piss their dumb opinion into the ocean of piss that is twitter, tell everyone to CALM THE FUCK DOWN NOTHING IS HAPPENING AAAAAAA or tell the holos (who won't read the replies lol their apology was corporatespeak) that its fine or that they should "learn better" whatever the fuck that means. Their corporate apologies also have some jimmies rustled.

It's a mess, but it'll be over tomorrow as always.

Still wonder what miko will stream about in an hour, or IF she will stream.

>>1998064
I want to be smothered in mikos mikos

I don't think they're going to recover from this one. Twitter is on fire right now and articles are being written.

Realistically, Miko and Marine may have to graduate or be suspended.

>>1999917
How much of that would belong to the snk author?

It would be nice if people just countered all this bullshit by membering to Miko and Marine. A nice wave of green in chat would cancel out all the efforts of the antis

>>2002001
Based af hahahaha

>>2000856
>Now
Did you miss all the other controversies?

>>2002088
Just like Gen5 with the janitor right?

Why are fujofaggots like this

>>2002089
it was gundam, as we learned it was ~$2000 so basically, IF there were laws to claim superchats for yourself in other people's streams because they used your content without permission, the author would be entitled to a whopping 310 yen minus 30% for youtube.

>>2002088
Realistically you sound retarded.

The JP bros call for aid. Will you answer, 35P?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pis3veqKl8k

>>2002167
If you mean that incident with Hololive Alternative that faggot was in the wrong and he deserved all the shit he got even though he is also a doujiou artist.

>>2002201
that's because its le ebin bait. because this board needs to be shit for some reason.

>>2002189
That wasn't as big as this

>>2000856
>>2002189
>Towa yab
>Aqua abadango
>Pekora and Choco bilibili chinks yab
>Holocaust
>Chammers and Coco Taiwan
>Lamy and Polka Janitors
Nothing will happen retarded newnigger dramafaggot.

>>2002223
This board has always been shit so the bait makes no difference

>>2002267
meant to quote>>2002088

>>2002267
Honestly at some point they should pull a Fubuki and don't apologize for that petty shit.
When Fubuki streamed the last fight of Sakuna, antis took what the Sakuna dev said out of context. The dev was just slightly displeased that Fubuki just streamed the final fight and ending because he wanted to see her play through the game. The anti's took that, twisted it to "This dev is fucking PISSED. Let's show Fubuki our unmitigated autism.", and dislike bombed the stream.

What did Fubuki do?

Absolutely nothing. She just streamed like normal.

What happened to her after that?

Jack shit. Antis got bored and moved on to their next target because Fubuki didn't take the bait.

>>2002267
Coco Taiwan incident is still going strong

>>2002267
If this was nothing there is no reason to apologize in the first place. By apologizing they're admitting to any guilt.

>>2002295
Friend is mega based.

>>2002300
Yes, and it's the biggest shit that happened in hololive. Did anyone graduate like dramafaggots spammed for the duration of their suspension? No.
>>2002316
They would apologize regardless if it's a nothing shit or not because it's a japanese thing to dogeza because they think it would solve conflicts that way.

>>2002415
> Did anyone graduate
Yes, just not the one they wanted gone (Hololive CN)

>>2002445
One disrespectful dragon for 6 well established and payed members.

What a fucking great trade.

>>2002415
Ok, let me ask you? If Hololive didn't become as big and popular as it is now? Do you think Cover would have kept Coco around still?

>>2002501
lol

>>2002501
said dragon making like 20 times the income of said group.

>>2002576
If you were using bilibili you would know that is bullshit.

Quit falling for the obvious bait

>>2002632
why would I use bug technology or mingle with changs to enjoy my japanese idols of which I also know the language whose official channels are twitter and youtube as well as twitch in this one's case

>>2001960
This has nothing to do with them being conservative or lib you faggot, go back to >>>/pol/

>>2002501
Where did you drive the tanks in 1989 chang?

>>1998379
What an absolute piece of shit. Please tell me the average Japanese person isn't on his side.

>>2002738
I was responding to the anon about Japan being based. They aren't based for a reason.

>>1999576
Why the FUCK would anybody be mad at Miko!?!?!?

Somebody please explain this to me. Are ther majority of people actually thinking Miko is in the wrong, and that she did something offensive enough to flame her, stir up controversy, and shit on her!?!?!?

>>2002632
Bilibili is a dying piece of shit that's hemorrhaging money.

>>2002697
Exactly.

You don't know shit and are just pulling information out of your ass. If Cover had just fired Coco, or have her just apologize and pledge respect to Chinese values we would be in a healthy spot.

But she chose to not apologize nor respect the largest market outside of Japan so she and her friends will be harrassed until graduation. It is only going to get worse.

>>2002877
>Believing everything Jornos tell you

>>2002884
>Chinese values
Eating dogs and getting massacred by your own government?

Bugs gonna be bugs i guess. No matter which country they are from.

>>2002884
It's amusing to see how zhangs think.

>>2002515
Coco IS the reason hololive is big and popular.

>>2002931
>getting massacred by your own government
You are so fucking clueless
If you payed any attention you would know this is not true

>>2002884
And what values does Chinese have?

>>1998379
>It's wrong to fucking read a fucking book on your stream now
What went wrong 35P? Miko literally did nothing wrong. What's next, they can't mention in a stream that they ate at a restaurant chain or eat X brand of cup ramen?

Everything they do has to have permission or censored? What the fuck is wrong with Japan.

>>2002987
Coco is the reason for its popularity in the West true, but the Chinese market carried Hololive for years

>>2002863
>Why the FUCK would anybody be mad at Miko!?!?!?
Fujoshits are actually mad because they thought Miko did something to slander their community, but they lacked the full context of the stream.

The rest are mad because they want to be. There's no better thrill to them than riding the hate train and massaging their hairy nipples until they lactate.

Reading twitter, miko and marine are reeaallly under fire. And nips keep calling us braindead, pig, or whatever for defending them.

>>2003087
Not even the janitor incident was thus bad, they are definitely going on haitus

>>2002300
Chinks seethed so hard it's still going up to this day.

>>2003035
Chinese didn't carry a shit. YAGOO himself admitted they weren't profitable. The most notable thing Chinese did was animation for Saga Jihen.

Bomb miko's stream with likes guys.

>>2003087
I don't believe you. The average Japanese person can't be THAT pathetically stupid, can they??????

>>2003150
Where did you get this? Do you have proof of its authenticity?

>>2002914
Believing a plummeting stock price and rising competition is good.
Enjoy the decline !

>>1998997
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I just want to know the title of the doujin

>>2003212
The burden of proof for your claims is onto you jackass. My last reply.

She update the thumbnail

>>2003029
people are seething because other people do what bloggers and vloggers did for years, but successfully this time. Also female cute aggression.

Come show your support to mikochi soon. Dont let fujoshits ruin her fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo0Xaba1LEQ

>>2003035
>Coco is the reason for its popularity in the West

you're in the very thread of the person who is responsible for it with a single little word in a GTA V stream...

>>1998379
For a doujin artist, this guy sure is a uppity faggot

>>2003319
N

>>2003296
>be in a shitstorm (炎上 in japanese) for the whole day
>add a little flame emoji to your GTA stream

god Mikochi I love you so much for shit like this

>>2003239
https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/ZHOMI205808

Somebody give me this artists twitter so I can tell him to kill himself.

>it's not an apology stream
ABSOLUTELY ELITE MOVE

>>2003412
She'll most likely apologize at the start

Migochi is strong

>>1998334
Probably the doujinshi artists are mad at Hololive after what happened to Mizuryu Kei

Not a 35P, but I left a like for support

>>2003442
she's through this shit a hundred times. if you have to worry about anything with shitstorms, it's cover's response (sometimes without the flamewar even, see Haachama for reference).

She'll not have a fucking Fujo beat her into depression when she struggled for years to be this successful, doing degrading things like 11 hours endurance Beat Saber

>>2003386
Gonna fapped to to this on Nhentai so i wouldn't give this fag a single dime

>>1998128
Can you upload a lighter version?

>>2003412
Man, it would be kino if miko just go and said FAQ instead of apologizing, but she probably won't do it.

>flame emoji in the title
>unfiltered chat

the absolute balls on her

>>2003546
Cover won't do nothing. This is even bigger nothingburger than janny "yab". They will just post apologize tweet and call it a day.

>>2003557
Why are you gay?

>>2002267
At Mizucuck.

>>2003588
Why would she filter chat? They aren't chinks

>>2002884
stop larping faggot

Guess I'll join member to support her, what's her member stream like?

>>2003618
Apparently, 同人誌, アムロ, and シャア are NG words. Seems like She’s not so based.

>>2003029
Companies are fags let's be real. Anything that is remotely deemed bad has to be shut down. Remember Heroes and that incident with the blender that had the name of the company? They got pissed because people seriously thought it would associate with negatively in reality.

>>2002884
QUICK QUICK, someone post the Aqua comic that made by someone who is totally not coping

>Miko stream
Holy shit
A lot of antis in the comment section

>>2003429
She already tweeted her statement on the matter, no reason to bring it up.

She sounds shaky

>>2003698
That's based, no one wants faggots in her chat bringing this shit up

man 草

I would honesty have sent in a superchat instead but she's playing gta so a membership will have to do.

she's obviously a little pensive but she seems intent not to mention the issue at all

keep her chat clean 35P

>>2003758
Poor mikochi
>>2003767
Translation

>>2002884
>If cover forced one of their employees to bow down to a tyrannical genocidal government things would be much better

>>2003698
We are you in the Miko thread if you're mad about Miko defending herself against stupid shit?

>>2003767
nousagi is the most pathetic fanbase

>>1999576
So this is what its like to be like Trump...

>>1998379
If he sued anyone, he would have Bandai's lawyers breathing at his neck the next minute.

>>2003846
"Where's the apology" times x

Apology -> 謝罪
"reading on stream" -> 朗読

>>2003846
"Apology when?" over and over

>>2003866
Wouldn't Peko be against this shit being done to Miko?

>>2003767
>>2003901
Fucking pathetic rabbits.

>>2002884
>Chinese values
POC is not real. ROC is the real china

For every anti on chat, post something positive for her. Even just a love you miko goes a long way to make her feel good

When will the wheelbarrows come in?

>>2003904
ironically that's a huge "rabbithole" in itself carlos.jpeg

tl;dr: the rrats here are already bad, the JP rrats might be even worse.

>Kino MariMiko offcollab
Of course antis had to ruin it. Fuck the BL artist for enabling then too. Anyway,
>Recognize a posting style similar to one of the /jp/ schizo
Don't reply you fucking idiots.

>get spammed
>gets a lot of members

>>2003919
stfu about this nousagi bullshit, schizo

>>2002884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsGO8a8WOE

>>2003866
I'd say they're on par with KFP Cultists.Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

>>1999576
japanese are such stupid faggots

Redpill me about Niconico. What has Niconico have to do with this?

>>1999576
It's not the SnK douijn artist who is throwing a fit. It's the other one.

>>2003993
her viewer numbers are also way up
if it wasn't GTA she'd totally drown in supachis right now which will totally happen at the next opportunity

>>2004015
>That qtrix guy is a redditor nousagi.

IMAGINE

MY

SHOCK

>>2004011
And how are you a better person you nigger faggot

>>2003998

This is such a bad time for the game to bug lol

>>2003998
https://youtu.be/kWDq35rObV4

Daniel larping as Haachama

>>2004015
See, this is why there needs to be more gatekeeping. I was worried things like this would happen if Hololive became mainstream. Antis are now talking as if they're part of the community when they are not and are masquerading as "concern trolls" and "fake fans". And don't get me started on all those vtweeters.

A reminder to newfags that nijiniggers are bottom of the barrel scum that should never be reasoned with. I don't even know why nousagis are a part of this but fuck them too

did gta crash

>>2004015
Almost all of Hololive were formerly NND streamers and the people left on that shitty site are mad that they jumped off that sinking ship

>>2004135
>1 nousagi

Rockstar Hate!

>>2004053
i don't even get why there are nousagis that are anti-mikos in the first place. did something happened between them that caused this divide or that's just antis larping.

>>2004015
based vanilla king telling off the insectoid

What does it say on her screen?

>>2004176
It's just falseflagging antis, there's twitter accounts with Senchou's oshi mark in that are talking shit about her

Did the gta stream became a zatsudan stream?

Today's Miko was clearly exhausted and listless.
Ironically, weak Miko is the cutest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXRSc64sIys&ab_channel=OtakMoriTranslations-VTubers

BEHOLD, THE TRANSLATORS ARE WRITING THE RRATS THEMSELVES

>>2004176
Miko "left" pekora for marine

>>2004135
They aren't, at least not in any large numbers. You're being lied to by people who are only in this thread to cause drama rather than because they like Miko, like that sheepposter just above claiming that random person is a nousagi despite their twitter being basically empty and them not following Pekora or the "proof" image way earlier where the only possible nousagi in it also has Miko's emoji in their description.

>>2004308
What else do you expect from Otakmori?

Wait why's there people claiming that you guys started this
I thought you're based

>>2004358
>le 4chinz boogeyman
Reddit is [x] way

>>2004308
Just don't watch and trust that faggots translations lol

>>2004358
What the fuck, literally everybody here is defending Miko and shitting on the twitter antis?

>>2004358
Do they even read the garbage they post?

Miko is having ARK flashback

>>2004358
>4chan summarized twitter drama
>they must be spreading the narrative
What the fuck is this post even? It's immediately apparent whoever reads the screencap below.

Is it aimed at brainlets that cannot even read the image?

Miko not being able to get her game started could be called karma if she deserved it lol

>>2004358
hey, we'll gladly take the blame for migochi. It's not like they can do anything about us anyways, kek.

>>2004358
obviously they got the 4 wrong dumbass. Unless you think japanese posters are lurking here for some reason.

>>2004410
>>2004415
Do you honestly expect r/hololive plebbitors to have IQ higher than 100?

>>2004358
where you get this?

>>2004358
Can I put a shotgun to his taint and tell him to stfu.

>>2004015
This thread is pretty hilarious. I'm not sure if the qtrix guy is Jao or just a LARPer.

https://twitter.com/qtirx/status/1376539379913482253?s=19

>>2004358
so he went to 4chan and needed deepl why? does he mean 5ch?

>>2004358
FOUND THE RETARD!!!
>https://twitter.com/KHolosimp/status/1376503813310275585?s=20

>>2004467
>does he mean 5ch?
probably

>>2004358
I do blame the rrat posters for why they probably blame us for shit, but reddit never reads their source anyways.

So what is the truth?

>>2004484
>Follow to receive daily retweet of Hololive and sometimes opinions on Vtubers
>r/hololive

>>2004438
>>2004467
That text is from here if you check the archives, I'm guessing deepl was mentioned as a way to say "I can't confirm what this is saying is true because I can't read Japanese"

https://twitter.com/KHolosimp/status/1376523604544790540
Dumb piece of shit.

>>2003323
They are acting in solidarity for "what cover did to Mizuryu Kei"

>Thinking this cesspool is any better than reddit
How old are you all?

>>2004467
he mtl it eng -> ch -> jp -> en
give to that retard to do that kind of dumb shit

>>2004568
At least on here I can nigger.

>>2004568
Unlike Reddit, we love our Oshis very much unlike you lot. Go the fuck back nigger.

>>2004427
Not even defending the retards on reddit but it's a retarded summary with made up shit.

>>2004504
they hate us cuz they aint us

>>2004568
you can't have a watamelon thread on reddit.
4chan wins again.

>>2004568
This place is far more supportive than fucking clip watching reddit. I know this for a fact even when it's got retards that love to shitpost.

>>2004568
ogey

"It's unfair, they're earning more money than me"

That piece of retarded shit got more than what he bargained for

>>1998379
Couldn't Cover sue his ass for blowing this shit out of proportion? I guess they're too pussy for that.

>>2002576
The chang is a fucking retard since Coco is a pioneer of the modern EN audience and Hololive would not be where it is today without her for better or worse, but at the same time people are taking Artia's words out of context, she said the branch wasn't making money anymore *because* people were withdrawing their support en masse.

Some nga zhangs are joining in, might as well group the jp antis as zhangs cause it is humiliating to be called a zhang for them.

>>2004176
>>2004135
They are convinced that Miko betrayed Pekora, so they will do anything to beat Miko.

>>2004703
Don't rely on cover doing any shit lol

Idk about you guys but I'm beginning to hate fucking artists now for their sheer autism when it comes to business.

>>2004683
What a retard really, he could get positive exposure cause miko and marine actually liked the doujin. Miko even said it was one of her favorites, but nooo the retard wants more.

I know my fellow anon mikochis are based and redpilled

reminder that fujoshits couldnt keep up their "spam" for even 5 minutes, kek

>>2004720
Wait what?
I would have thought Atria's popularity increased after that. She was CN after all.

>>2004746
Even fucking Oda wouldn't do this, and he could've several times. Some Holochuubas love One Piece.

>>2000699
This shithead torched his career over 3 fucking dollars. Fucking hell

>>2004817
Oda actually owns the IP instead of being a bloodsucker pretending to have any legal grounds to complain.

>>2004854
Exactly. Even if Toei or Shonenjump wanted to, He could've told his corpo rats to not take any legal action. Why would they? They're fucking loaded and its fucking free publicity.

Miko doesn't have to apologize at all thats the most retarded shit.. Do reviewers have to apologize to creators now when they didn't like their content and write a bad review about it?

>all according to keikaku

>>2004901
That's what upsets me the most. It's not even someone being overprotective of something they own.

>>2001569
Nah, EOPs are the only sane ones here. The JOPs are too busy spreading their assholes in shame while apologizing. EOPs are rightfully calling the author a faggot, telling him/her/it to fuck off, amd defending Miko. More EOPs would unironically make this situation better.

>>2004746
Doujin artists are broke fucks whose only talent is knowing how to draw females getting raped by orcs (since vanillashit doesn't sell). It's easy to imagine how miserable and depressing their shitty life is

>>2004933
In the video game industry they do, but for some reason not in the movie industry. Ebert shitted on a lot of movies and no one went after him.

>>2004972
ESLJLPT3 here, fuck that shit. You have to understand both languages to understand what's actually going on.

>Make fun of bl doujin on stream
>Butthurt author demands supachat royalties
>Antis jump on because defending ridiculous copyright bullshit suits their motives even when it's just quoting a gay gundam doujin
>Faggots continue to prove homosexuality is a mental illness
Correct understanding and/or I'm a retarded EOP?

>Miko apologizing for being based, btfoing the fujos and deep inside she doesn't regret it

Glad to be a 35P

>>2005108
Pretty much

>>2005122
>Miko apologizing
Source?

>>2005108
This has got to be the most pointless controversy ever

>>2005108
>Make fun of bl doujin on stream
Things that never happened for $100.

>>2005204
Membership YT community post

>>2005204
twitter you daft cunt

>>2005259
oh right

>>2005204
Be a member you poor shit

>>2003767
Holy fuck it actually is Nousagi!! Unreal!! Fuck you faggots and your stupid rabbit bitch for making Miko sad and creating a negative malaise around her and Marine instead of the joy they should be feeling after a fantastic sleepover.

>>2005108
Not far off but they didn't even make fun of it, they were laughing because Miko hid it in the fridge as a prank and Miko even said how much she liked it

>>2005108
You are retarded. Try again

>>2005293
are you seriously this retarded?

>>2005293
Nousagi are the scum of the earth.

Was the fujo artists career ruined now or something good happen for him amidst this shitty controversy

>>2002884
Sure thing Zhang. Sure thing.

>>2005358
The artist went into full lockdown while she is trying to leech her $3 from Cover. I'd say it's pretty much over.

The stream's been normal, so yeah, this pointless shit has already blown over.

>>2005358
he is a fujo artist. He has no career to begin with

>>2005472
I mean if marine likes it, and we all know marine's rommate is somewhat famous in the jp doujin circle. Then that may be saying something

So youre telling me that if the stream was not monetized the artist wouldnt have a problem with them reading the entire book and shitting on it

>>2005566
money talks lol

>>2005532
Well they ruined any chance of bettering their career when they complained about Marin liking it instead of using that fact to prop up their own status.

>>2005594
>>2005532
>>2005472
it's a she, chances are married
if not she'll have some kind of secretary job to pay the bread
doujin is usually just a hobby, only westerners are so delusional to think their patreon will pay the bills by itself unless you're actually talented

>>2005566
No he would cuz hololive fanbase is bigger or some other retarded reason. That faggot is just an opportunist trying to start some shit to get money for rent

>>2004410
/vt/ maybe, but not /jp/. They are still mad at Coco and her reddit reviews and they call holofag to anybody who tells them to stop shitposting about Hololive

>>2004308
What the fuck did Otakmori do this time?

>>2003557
Based

>>1999576
So it's basically the Japanese version of K-pop Stans that is doing all of this shit? Am I getting it right?

>>2005358
Why do people keep referring to that fujo as "he"?
Even gay men don't draw the kind of BL that was mentioned on that stream. This shit is 100% female-made and panders to women.

>>2005936
tumblrinas and fanfic autists, yea
imagine getting off to the dudes piloting mechs in a show, THAT level of autism

Wait, what happened to Mizuryu? Did his Marine doujin get pulled down or what? I only come here when I notice some explicit drama and it seemed to go completely over my head.

Reminder that western fans have never attacked Holos like asians did.
EOP LOVE

>>2000197
But the doujin isn’t poking fun at the original work

>>2006059
He signed a contract with cover back during the summer before 5th gen's debut. With Hololive Alternative's announcement he realized how big Hololive actually is and he decided to renegotiate his contract to get a bigger cut. Cover told him to fuck off, and he had a meltdown on Twitter burning all bridges.

it's sad that Miko and Marine actually liked the bl doujin

>>2006069
No, it's just leeching off from it.

Her GTA Streams are so whoelsome and funny. She actually interacts with her 35P and its great. How can Anyone hate her?

>>2006139
What the fuck? There has to be more than that. He used to be so based.

Is this foreshadowing?

>>2006203
Miko's GTA streams with 35P are the best. Miko is so precious

>>2006139
How greedy can he get? Like his doujins got pick up by a hentai studio and is doing good. Why is he asking for more when his name and work alone are getting traction lol

>>2006203
fujoniggers are mentally ill

>>2006069
making BL out of straight characters = making fun of original work

>>2006223
He wanted to fuck marine but cover told him to fuck off.

>>2006203
She is the gta expert of holo and that's cool since she got famous because of her gta clips

>>2006321

Do 35p see why fujoshits are bad now? Miko should of stuck with Pekora.

>>2006223
Because he is lying. Some conflict did happen but we do not know anything about it except for the fact that Mizuryu has separated from Cover on good terms. Read his own twitter. Most of the drama revolves around antis (and especially chinks) riling shit up and spreading made up rumors about the ordeal.

>>2006059
here's a shitty rundown of Mizuryu Kei

>got hired by hololive to do something for alternative
>he accepts the terms
>fast forward to the release of HoloAlt trailer
>he founds out that Hololive is big
>asked to renegotiate with cover for his big cut
>got shutted down
>started ranting on twitter and he streamed his rant also on bilibili
>chinks started bringing pitchforks to attack cover corp and marine again
>on the other side of twitterverse, some counterattack happened where people posted Mizuryu's touhou doujin that talks about denying Nanking/Holocaust
>it got big and chinks found out about it also
>chinks also started attacking Mizuryu Kei
>Mizuryu Kei killed himself

>>2006389
You forgot
>he tried to fuck Senchou

>>2006272
>fujoshi hate good thing because its popular
more news at 11

but the way she was throwing around molotovs really showed how little of a fuck she gives

I hope marine doesn't blame miko.

women=fujyoshi=nijinigger

>>2006389
>Mizuryu Kei killed himself
What a happy ending

>>2006240
even zhang kneels

>>2006454
I know a lot of zhangs who loves miko lol, it's like she is the default favorite by the chinks

>>2006389
He didn't rant about shit on bilibili. That channel does not belong to him and whoever runs it just made shit up on the go.

Miko is talking about the BL drama now

She's apologizing, but it's towards us 35Ps for making us worried about the current situation. She is NOT apologizing to the dumb nigger doujin artist nor to the Fujishits.

>>2006576
Resident Evil with Korone tomorrow apparently!

>>2006223
>>2006386
What lies? Did you miss his meltdown with over a dozen deleted tweets followed by him locking down his account and only unlocking it after he actually contacted a lawyer to clean up his mess?

>>2006576
If Marine feels the need to apologize, hope it's just like Miko's and not full on groveling.