/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19957060
The whole art through adversity thing. When a creator has few/no limits and is able to do what they want, their art often suffers.

>>19957060
Without Hololive she's nothing.

coco was shit too

>>19957422
limitation breeds creativity

not a hot take

>>19957060
2 weeks until she shows us what she can do with her creative freedom and launches her new project.

I have many criticisms of this person but I don't believe you ever watched her regularly or do so even now

>>19957060
Hot take
I wanna have sex with Kson

>>19957060
>Hot take
>The most basic take
Like pottery

>>19957060
Her numbers seem fine to me

>>19957613
It's a fraction of what it used to be 6 months ago. Luckily for her, her paypigs are extremely loyal and seem to have endless cash.

>>19957470
>>19957607
I thought everyone /here/ loved Kson and her content

>>19957718
You thought wrong

>>19957643
6 months ago as coco or kson?

>>19957760
Both, she actually had more viewers as kson the first few weeks because of all the dramafag bandwagon hoppers. Same thing that is probably happening to Rushia now.

>>19957732
Thanks clarifying my dude.

>>19957551
Is it an Onlyfans?

>>19957718
/vt/ is a Cover bootlicking board.

>>19957797
Brand really is stronger than being a good streamer

>>19958343
Yeah no shit newfag, it was because of Hololive that this board was created.

>>19957718
kson is a smelly whore

>>19957718
I constantly see who said that they loved Coco but can't stand her content anymore. The people who still follow her are diehard fans but it does seem that many holofags have become disillusioned with her.
Personally I think her character worked better in the context of hololive. It was admirable that she was a senpai figure even to some of the previous gen's girls.

>>19957565
Have you seen her without a gallon of make up?

Not really a hot take when she was pretty boring in the first place

Pikamee is 1000x better as a collab partner than Kanata ever was

>>19958636
What the fuck did Kanata ever do to you?

>>19957718
>chaturbate with a whore
>nux taku collab
>trash taste
>minecraft with connor

yeah no

>>19958554
A lot of people soured on her because of using her "creative freedom" to do the same cookie cutter flavor of the month shit that ever corpo vtuber streams.

>In last 7 months, 6 times in TOP10 SC in Japan.
>Stable 3-5k CCV
>Second WoWs sponsored stream recently.

>>19958583
My standards are really low

>>19957060
She is the same as always, it´s just that being by herself exposses her.

>>19958294
I hope so

Hot take, nor OP, nor most poster in this thread saw any Kson or Coco streams aside of graduation and some meme reviews.

>>19958636
Every time I watch a Pikamee collab it goes the same way
>says 2 sentences
>teakettle laugh for 30 minutes
>says another sentence
>teakettle laugh for 45 minutes
What a GREAT collab partner

>>19957060
>Kson is a shadow of her former self.
but Kson never stopped being Kson, what do you mean?

>>19958676
Nothing, she's a decent vtuber, but Pikamee can actually keep up with Souchou, and not just because they're both bilingual.

>>19957457
So what you sayin is
>You don't need to be talented, once you get into Hololive you will have success?

>>19958704
>nux taku collab
You're lying right? A collab with a goddamn dramafag who blows things out of proportion for clout? Say it ain't so Coco...

>>19958898

Also funny thing.
Durning Rushia shitposting there was no ping pong Kson or Haachama threads, now, when it's over there is anti Kson and Haachama thread spam again. I saw least 5 in this week,

kson is good

this is colder than pekora's chicken, get something from this year if you're going to waste a thread slot

>>19958861
Her true form was revealed which was worse then the reddit dragon

>>19958898
She was big (for a indie) even before Holo
>>19958915
Why do you care, you newer watched her?

>>19958915
https://youtu.be/7YTX5Q24hUw

>>19959013
>worse

>>19957060
Don't care. I still want to fuck that hag puss hole.

>Look at her upcoming stream
>Obesity speedrun: Eating American candy that even American parents don't feed to their children

So basically this thread is just seething fatties?

>>19959161
c-can she save some of the reeses for me?

>>19959161
She`s just preparing for a new 2B cosplay.

>>19959161
>So basically this thread is just seething fatties?
n-no...

>>19959027
>Why do you care, you newer watched her?
Try again ESL-chama
>>19959034
God fucking dammit...

>>19959244
But you never saw any of her content, why do you care? Do you like seethe just because?

>>19957060
I miss Coco

I just wish she would fart on stream already.

>>19959035
Hey man if you wanna watch her now more power for you I only watched her cause she collabed with my oshi and I won't be continuing

>>19957422
>>19957462
Unironically this.
It was fun seeing her push the envelope under Hololive and the new creative things she could do and get away with. It's why people like Haachama. But now she has no management or CEO so she could do whatever she wants with little to no repercussions. When you have Nyanners pissing on stream, what else is there?
I still watch Kson's Gunpla builds though.

>>19959568
>nyanners pissing on stream
got a link?

Her building gunpla is fun but i mean gunpla is just cool in general
Outside of that hanging out w pikamee is the only thing i find worthwhile she does
Kinda feels like she was the best actor on a tv show and had a grand exit from it then went onto to try and replicate that performance without the same conditions
Just isnt the same

>>19959433
I know the English language is hard for you to comprehend so show me where I said that I never watched her content. I never saw her Resident Evil 4 series, her eigo series where she taught southern slang, her makeup streams, etc? Someone makes a comment you don't like and you assume they never watched her content ever? You're a fucking retard.
>b-b-but THOSE don't count
And I'm sure you're gonna move the goalposts now.

>>19959615
It was on twitch. She's playing some horror game while saying she's holding it in and gets scared and there's a pause and she says she thinks she pissed herself and ends stream.

>>19957060
Coco's major strengths were bridging the gap between HoloJP and a global audience, making lots of innovative content and being more brash and loud than her colleagues, which gave collabs with her a unique dynamic.

Kson is still decent, but not worth watching anymore to me.

>>19959880
Coco was also really cute and comfy, and I loved her model. With kson it's like it's just her

purple without orange is the reason why kson is a shadow of her former self.

>>19958958
I have literally never ever seen a Haachama anti thread before

>>19957060
she's a good girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRY90Nr0Y18

>>19958583
That's why it was a hot take.

>>19960216
it never reaches the level of "am /vt/" but there's always a few that creep up every few days, during SEA hours unsurprisingly

just Zhang propaganda, she's still a wholesome cutie pie

>>19958583
Have you? Aside from that photoshopped zhang propaganda picture she's cute as fuck.

ITT bugmen who will forever seething about losing

>>19958583
Have you?

>>19960458
Most of the thread is full of valid criticism

they're still spamming her tags...
https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E6%A1%90%E7%94%9F%E3%82%B3%E3%82%B3?src=hashtag_click&f=live

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E6%A1%90%E7%94%9F%E4%BC%9AFOREVER?src=hashtag_click&f=live

>>19959699
Again. Why do you care about someone that you never watched?

>>19960569
Like this?
>>19960614

>>19960681
How does that pertain to this thread saying "things arent just the sams"
Christ fuck off

>>19958379
The fact that corporations get favored on the youtube algorithm probably didn't help either

I'd like Kson more if she did what Pikamee did.
Stream in English on Twitch, and Stream in Japanese on Youtube.

Her japanese filters me, especially when its something I'm interested in and it's just a majority japanese stream.

>>19959568
>I still watch Kson's Gunpla builds though
Pretty much the only thing of hers I watch as well.

>>19959161
>TO GET A FAT ASS ……
THIS INTRIGUES ME VERY MUCH….
ANAL CORRECTION WITH KSON IS REQUIRED NOW AFTER DONE WITH MARINE

>>19958898
She lacks a community, without that she's worthless. Just pretending to be friends with small companies or indies is not enough. Even top Twitch streamers have a community.

>>19961085
There is one, you just don't know Japanese.

>>19958915
Kson is too trusting of other people, I think she expects the western indie community to be like the Japanese one.

>>19957060
true
should have stayed in hololive desu

>>19958866
>>19958636
Man shippers are psychotic.

One of the best vtubers out there

i always found her attempts at humor grating and imo toeing the line between vtuber and camwhore doesnt add any substance to her content

I'm happy that she is happy.

>>19959764
Why would she admit to that except to excite men sexually? Normally you'd pretend it was something else

>>19963774
I think she was drunk.

>>19957060
Not really.
She was pretty much always like this.

I was hoping she'd try milking more money from her simps and go the melody route, especially since she seems to admire her a lot, and be more lewd and stuff. It seemed like it at first with the 2b cosplay, ring fit stream, and that one Chaturbate stream, but all she does nowadays is do the most boring shit that she could have done in hololive if management didn't treat her like shit

>>19957551
>>19958294
It's VShojoJP in all but name.

>>19963774
>>19963847
It was to excite herself. Nyanners's humiliation king is well documented.

>>19961184
Fans don't count.

>>19958583
Then fuck her while she's in make up. baka

>>19957718
Coco? Yes
Kson? No
Kson will never out throne the orange dragon

>>19957565
>>19958583
>>19960454
>>19958731

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvVCdLC0Pfs

>>19965847
my wife

>>19965847
Perfect japanese genes, god i would love to have a child with her

>>19965932
>Perfect Japanese
Funny since she's 1/4th American Mutt

>>19965847
cute

>>19965979
Source? Or are you just making stuff up?

>>19957462
I'd still breed Kson

>>19965847
why is she so perfect bros?

>>19959764
That was just a joke reference to when Gura did it for real.

>>19965979
And 3/4 Chinese since there aren't any pure Japanese genes left.

Level 19

>>19965847
holy shit
makeup should be fucking illegal and outlawed

>>19966553
for some reason i find her more hot without makeup

>>19966553
What is the problem exactly?

>>19957060
She makes her own schedule, no manager to make it good.

>>19966553
Why you guys so picky?
We're in /vt/ most of us are average at best.

>>19965847
https://files.catbox.moe/mx2m3n.jpg
Looks good to me

>>19966553
>>19965847
gay

Kson can't do half the shit she used to because she doesn't have a corpo protecting her anymore, if she gets slapped by youtube, its her ass on the line and she isn't going to risk that.

>>19959161
based kson

>>19967025
Kanata is so lucky

>>19967025
cute!

>>19960953
That was typical Coco tho, I never understood where she got the rep as some EOP darling, outside of the reddit shit, all of her streams where in JP.

>>19965847
i wish i was a girl bros

>>19966722
no anon, the girls that are pretty without makeup would look pretty, and in this case, not like a living South Korean Sadako
>>19967025
>posting a pic that still has some makeup

>>19967839
That's her bare faced at the beginning of a makeup stream actually

>>19958898
If Connor was right why did have to join Vshojo?

>>19965847
Nigger, most of us see asian girls with no fucked up teeth as cute because we are tired of seeing the same shit around us.

>>19967839
So this thread is basically everyone disagreeing with you while keep telling everyone they are wrong?

Are you a chink or an Artiafag?

>>19967839
wrong, go check the void you fucking schizo. It was a makeup tutorial

>>19968135
given the difference between her bare face in the video that was posted and her "bare face" in your pic, it really isn't.

>>19968291
Lighting angles and facial expression make a big difference

the absolute state of ksonschizos

>>19968226
disagreeing with what?
my main point is makeup should be illegal
if you don't agree with that, then go ahead and enjoy being a fool

>muh makeup
Fuck off with your off-topic shit...

THIS IS JERK IT OUT?

>>19968437
but why though? she looks fine without it

>someone posts literal Kson makeup video
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAKEUP IS OFFTOPIC OFFTOPIIIIICCCCCCC ABLURRGHHURHGHBLORRGGHGHGHHURF

>>19968437
I don’t even watch kson but i kinda want to now knowing how much it makes chinks like you seethe.

>>19968291
Maybe she looks worse in the video because it's an older shitty blurry camera and the lighting is bad and makes her skin look grey.

When she first graduated, she was monstrously popular. I said at the time, she should immediately join Nijisanji or Vshojo. Because I am a very intelligent person, and I knew that whatever popularity she had would fade rapidly if she has no community. That's why people form Vtuber communities in the first place. She didn't seem to understand this, and thought she could go it alone. Every day that passes, more of her oldtime audience moves on, and the less bargaining power she will have if she tries to join a group. She's drying up.

You could have started your own agency as well, but you didn't even do that. What are you even doing?

>>19968596
the fuck are you going on about
I'd say the same thing if it was any other vtuber who shows her non-makeup face and there's an at least two points difference between that and her makeup face

>>19968590
This is a Vtuber board you fucking retard

I think that an important aspect of Coco was that she was always pushing and breaking the boundaries and sometimes de-seisoing her genmates, but now that she's free, there's no rule to break and just some mild novelty.

>>19968717
no anon, the fact that it's an older shitty blurry camera is something that works to her favor
she would look worse if the camera was clearer and showed more details of her face

>>19968965
>kson is not a vtuber
this is the real retard shit right here

>>19969066
Souchou is, Kumichou isn't

>>19968760
tell me that when she comes out of the SC top 10, at the end of the day she makes more than you oshi.

https://files.catbox.moe/j1x50n.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/8pht2h.jpg

REMIMDER THAT ZHANGS ARE LITERALLY FAGGOTS
REMIMDER THAT ZHANGS ARE LITERALLY FAGGOTS
REMIMDER THAT ZHANGS ARE LITERALLY FAGGOTS

>>19968992
That isn't how it works. Shitty cameras take shitty pictures.

>>19969357
Is this a JAV? Does kson do JAVs?

>>19969467
That's true, but also faces look grosser the more details you can see, so blurriness can improve appearance to an extent

>>19957060
>shit take
ftfy

>>19958430
It was a good choice so cover drones not spamming other threads.

>>19969467
and a clearer camera makes a person's unattractiveness even clearer

>>19957060
I'm so glad c-san is no longer poisoning hololive

>>19969494
No, this is NGA chinks crossdressing.

>>19969558
If she had skin problems like really bad acne she would look better with a shitty camera. That isn't the case though.

>>19969689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj_xOiOQ5Jw
hololive will never forget kaicho.

>>19958898
>attaches himself to a popular brand

>>19968760
It's almost like she didn't quit hololive of her own volition

>>19966062
Herself, what talking about her mom.

her shadow... THE TRUE SELF

PERSONA

>>19960216
haachama's "anti" threads are very very weird, it's antism covered up with layers and layers of sugar...to the untrained eye it would look like praise even but that's definitely not the intention

I like Kson a lot, she's probably my favorite lindy, but even I have to admit that she lost some of the spark once she was the master of her own destiny.

>>19972583
>Ironic

>>19957060
She needs a partner to bring out her best side.

>>19966062
She's 100% ethnically Japanese. Some anons are retarded and don't understand that there are Japanese people living outside of Japan.

>>19958898
He changed his tune the moment he became friends with Ollie and Callie.

>>19973216
No, you mongoloid. She flat out said her mom is half-white.

>>19973350
Nope.

I'm just pissed she cautiously stopped pandering to EOPs and downgraded her eigo back to her early 2020 fluency.

Also her 3Ds streams were SOUL, no cam shit is ever going to replace that.

>>19957060
I still watch and support her, but I admit her time in Hololive was kino compared to her time nowadays as an indie, because she excels in collabs and taking leadershiop roles which Hololive provides countless opportunities for. Modern Kson is also more toned down a lot since it is herself, while the persona Kiryu coco gave her limitless opportunities to be innovative and unhinged (similiar to how er all behave politely in Real Life but unleash our true personalities on 4chan. Also it's clear that she's Vtubing for fun anyway as she has enough money to get settled, so she just takes her time.

>>19957718
It's an unwritten rule here that you cannot criticise Coco/Kson without signing anti-China statements like Xi can suck my dick.

>>19973084
this pretty much, her latest collabs with Yur were amazing. I'm a yura simp now, I expect her extroverted side will improve shouchou's circle

>>19973400
>Can't handle his perfect Japanese waifu is actually a tattoo'd mixed breed
Dilate harder

>>19975398
>I can't post a timestamped stream because I'm making shit up so I'll call him names instead!
Won't work buddy.

>>19957551
KSon NFTs

In terms of design I still like big tittie orange dragon woman over Yakuza wannabe delinquent

>>19976054
Alternative-chad?!

>>19966100
Who wouldn't?

I would honestly watch Kson a lot if she remembered how to speak english without the fucked accent. Sometimes you can hear the normalcy she's capable of doing but just doesn't.

>>19958583
Most women all around the world look like shit without make up on. I'll never understand why retards always say this.

>>19973766
Yeah, she's surprisingly good at phyiscal performance. Making 3D for indie will cost a lot and I don't know how if her apartment can even house that set. Her only other alternative is to rent 3D studios but that will be very expensive.

>UGH IT JUST ISN'T THE SAME
>it literally is

>>19958583
Yes, and still would. She's surprisingly has the classic Japanese beauty without her make up. Even when her real eyebrows are thin it still clumped in the middle, like a classic painted Kabuki eyebrows. Also are you seriously using that "ugly without make up" excuse? We men are the epitome of no make up.

>>19977633
This, people can be so fucking retarded sometimes its insane.
The fact that some people unironically think like that absolute mong you replied to amazes me

>>19959161
She should be doing this with Pika if she's gonna eat all that.

>>19976723
It's what happens when you don't practice the dialect in a long time, in her case, 3 months and some more was enough to fuck her up again.

Maybe she could try and do some phonoaudiological exercises, it know for a fact it could bring her back in form if she tried it.

>>19959161
Have you watched her previous one? Where she try to eat the "Bean Boozled".
https://youtu.be/4Jt6dtEmMqo

>>19973072
Yep, its like how a lead singer of a band quits to go solo... only their new stuff is never quite as good.

>>19957060
That's a cold take.