/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>19913341
This would make sense until you realize that other holo members put out generic shit but still get millions of views like A New Start

recline schizos need to kill themselves

gen 1...

Irys is a very fucking boring vtuber and the numbers back this statement up. But somehow she's gained an entire cult of people on /vt/ acting like she's the most entertaining EN to ever exist. Is it literally because she's japanese?

>>19914690
Her content is aimed at adults.

>>19914738
Stunted adults maybe
>oh ho ho this retarded hafu once more doesn't understand western culture and is talking about anime
>whoop did she just say something very sexual without realizing it
How adult

>>19914690
>entire cult of people on /vt/
so.. 10-12 people

>>19914789
>wow they are having sex live, so mature
>pee pee poo poo jokes, so funny, only for adults
>wow she said vibrator and condoms and drinking cum, only for cool kids

>but uki and alban doing horro kusoges
i see...so this is the kind of advice luxiem give to the next gen

Today's superchats

>>19914999
Is the Vox era already coming to an end?

>>19915088
wait till his 420k celebration stream and weekend asmr

>>19915134
he will do a being alive celebration or someshit

>>19914548
A New Start has stuff going for it that, for instance, See the World does not. It has a cute backing track with interesting instrumentals, a good MV with a quality theme (travel/adventure/history), cultural resonance with Konosuba, and Moomers herself is a more popular tier of Holo than IRyS in general. Also, the lyrics aren't so confrontationally weird-sounding in English. The first two lines of See the World are a bad first impression, they sound so odd. But I agree, there's an outsized difference.

>>19914986

alban mogging uki hard right now. i noticed uki is too much on the lower end for his gaming streams.. does someone know why?

>>19914594
Meme shark is reclining. The numbers don't lie

>>19914999
March superchats so far
>Vox - $67,687
>Nene - $66,731
>Leos - $64,930
>Miko - $60,186
>Akina - $45,753
>Chloe - $34,821
>Laplus - $32,612

>>19915219
both are boring as hell

Lol, only shu, alban, violet and fungus are in the na/euro time. Luca and yellow are in the late afternoon to early evening asian time and tranny, ike, vox and mysta are in asian primetime

>>19914789
Are you a boomer or a zoomer? I honestly can't tell...

I'm almost certain IRyS is basically a frozen millenial caveman that got brought back to life and following her through the culture shock is actually quite fascinating.

>>19915346
Man i wonder hard vox will cash out on his birthday stream next month. Those b2b huge super streams this month were wild numbers

>>19915420
luxiem bullied noctys out of asian time and only let yugo there since well she is japanese.

>>19915194
Mumei said the reason the song took so long to come out was because Mori rewrote some of the song so it had English lyrics.

>>19914999
>>19915346
I will never stop kneeling for Vox

>>19914999
Oliver's high SC earnings still surprise me, because he doesn't do any remote pandering.

is it just the audience combination? ManjisanjiJP + the NijiEN fujos (and chill people) showering him in SC for events?

>>19915194
>It has a cute backing track with interesting instrumentals, a good MV with a quality theme
Lets be honest, none of this shit matters
>cultural resonance with Konosuba
it's 2022, let it go
>Moomers herself is a more popular tier of Holo than IRyS in general
she's barely more popular than IRyS and still less popular than Kronii and we all know how Daydream went
>the lyrics aren't so confrontationally weird-sounding in English
I just went through the song and some of the lyrics are straight up trash but I guess that's mori's fault

>>19915536
This is probably a potential answer to the question of what IRyS should do musically. Her producer just needs to kneel and collaborate with Mori, and do whatever she says. As much as some people around here hate it, Mori is the queen of music production in HoloEN and probably the entire English vtuber ecosystem.

>>19915638
She's way more popular than IRyS. An IRyS tweet will max out at ~10-12k and Mumei can get 25k+. A random Mumei karaoke will trend on twitter with 7k+ tweets while an IRyS one will trend with 2.5k tweets.

>>19914690
You know you shouldn't seethe because people here like Irys over your favorite 2view

>>19915503
If he wants to maximize it he'll do 3 streams.

Countdown
2 hour totsu with some audience chit-chat
1-2 hour "thank you for spending my bithday with me" ASMR till 0:00 to end the day.
boom, 60k$ within 24 hours.

>>19914999
It's furen's birthday, wasn't it? I remembered she had merch posted on the Niji Twitter account

Which Chuuba has the most dead subs?

>>19915746
She only had 2k more viewers on her valentines karaoke stream than Irys's valentines karaoke stream. She isn't that popular.

>>19915776
Jesas, you're right, it's all too easy. It's entertaining to watch, I want to see how much Vox can milk these women. I want him to go even further beyond.

>>19915638
>song being catchy and repeatable doesn't matter for number of views
of so you're just a troll? why didn't you say so sooner

I thought you were just a dumbass that didn't get it.

>>19915813
The top Holo IDs

>>19915813
Kizuna Ai

>>19915808
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTUDxOK1z6E

she also had another stream earlier, but VS usually doesn't get good SCs.

>>19915776
He's greedy so he can do this. If the fans can purchase 50 stands and badges, he'll give them private messages.

>>19915609

Oliver got a update on his model. These always get a lot of SCs on Niji

>>19914999
>Vox asmr losing to Iroha 100 day celebration
Kek
>but they are getting as much money as JP
Finana is such a retard

>>19915609
Just the usual nijimale event buff for his 2.0, most JP males don't pander at all
>>19915808
Yes following the standard template of couse lol

>>19916024
I mean, if they keep making it, it means it must be selling is all I can say.

Would nipplegate be as bad if Enikara and the man himself did a sliding double dogeza instantly?

>>19915870
IRyS's music is repeatable and catchy so I don't get what your point is.

>>19916091
It isn't getting repeated or catching on though, by HoloEN standards, which is what the discussion is theorizing about

Chilla kusoge put Alban on the EN gold chart

>>19916070
The fact that its is still standard template means they don't sell much.
As quoted from a Mea,"If your oshi can only afford keychains, it means you are not superchatting enough."

Homostar numbers horrify me. Can EN save them? Roberu is like fucking Pekora to rest atm

>>19915813
festival

Everything that shork do get meme, today was no acception. Who in niji or ion vtuber world can consistently do that shit??

>>19916143
But if we're going by song quality then A New Start shouldn't deserve those views

>>19916321
in*

>>19916220
Beyblademan could have saved them but he got terminated. Roberu and Astel are the ones keeping their branch afloat.

>>19916088
The perception wouldn't be nearly as bad as they would at least appear to be sincere in acknowledging their fuck-up. This wasn't like the NijiEN discord leak, in which ignoring it was the better option, this was something that had a criminal matter attached to it (Pirating).
I'm certain there'd still be some delays and/or reshuffling, but right now the image is "Anycolor fucked up and didn't acknowledge this correctly, so sponsors are now choosing to fuck off" which is bad for business.
If they had done the apology correctly and just suspended him for a bit, it at least shows some sincerity in addressing the issue and the companies may have been more inclined to just delay things (if that was an option) or otherwise, and the public perception wouldn't be nearly as bad while the outcomes for Lauren would still have been the same (No streaming for X period of time). Now, they kinda have the worst of both worlds.

>>19915813
Kizuna AI and any other answer is just a meme. But then again can a dead chuba have dead subs?

>>19915827
IRyS' valentines karaoke was also a gimmick stream that had tourists funneling into it because they heard something "cool" was happening (and there was, that stream is fucking amazing). Mumei's was just a bog standard Mumei karaoke.

>>19916070
Feels like they opt for the profit produced from people buying the expensive worthless merch rather than have more people think it's worth buying it. 100 people buying merch is still good profit margins rather than having 1000 but the cost to produce the merch is high. There's still going to be idiots to buy those impractical stuff.

>>19916220

I mean, if they get like, at least 1k median chuubas for all the EN Stars it would already be a big victory for them. The only ones who get to 1k now are Astel and Roberu

>>19916407
It was hardly a gimmick karaoke though and those numbers is what she usually gets for an unarchived karaoke

>>19916422
With the amount of livers they have, it'd be a logistics/management nightmare to produce individual merch for each livers. They profit better mass producing this stuff and pump it out at an expensive number.

/#/ is declining.

>>19916321
Not going to give you ideas Fungus!

>>19915964
>These always get a lot of SCs on Niji
No, no they don't usually get this high
3-5k$ usually
https://playboard.co/en/video/-_FBzzimI1o
https://playboard.co/en/video/ripiJ0p4Xv8
https://playboard.co/en/video/Qavs6BknYOM
https://playboard.co/en/video/iRwc108kCXs
https://playboard.co/en/video/KhQFJkREVKk
Even Tomoe, one of the highest event earners "only" got 7k
https://playboard.co/en/video/P6ZDEVB1twg

Only for some of the most popular males like Kaida, and even then it was also a congrats for him for the group 3D work.
https://playboard.co/en/video/npIjHugduxU
And of course Fuwa - 26k Jeesus
https://playboard.co/en/video/AgUOFeT2VJk
>>19916024
Still, Oliver is part of this big SC club, despite not seeming to have THAT kind of audience.

>>19916373
I'm in a completely different field than entertainment but I do know that good faith and sincerity is almost always the right answer when it comes to deals with our partners, customers, and the media. Good faith keeps channels open even if deals fail.

>>19916407

Oh Hatoba Tsugu's new vid hits #5 on youtube jp trending. That's neat.

>>19916343
holy seething, just acept that mumei has good viewership in streams related to her singing ability

>>19916552
If the talent for Nijisanji requests more merch and is will to invest I thought they got what they wanted? I'm sure many have a fun time designing them but I guess the lure of getting money for not doing shit is high.

>>19916723
LMAO
It was probably the best EN Karaoke I've seen. Not only was IRyS' singing amazing as usual but all the little bits and skits she did were hilarious. I don't know if she wrote a script or not but if she didn't that makes it even more impressive that she can just come up with all that stuff on the fly.

>>19911511
>baiting with KING
HERESY!

How come when Suisei endlessly shills her albums and sponsorships it's considered based but when Kiara spams STREAMSPARKS it's considered cringe?

>>19916769
I'm not wrong though. That song is a painfully generic isekai opening and I'm not the only one that thinks this way. Just watch, her second original is going to do worse than the first regardless of quality. That's if she ever does a second one.

>>19916881
Because she's Kiara and she sucks at not being annoying
If Gura or Mori did the same no one would give them shit for it

>>19916321
Peek-a-boo!!

She just has a knack for not only comedy but most importantly timing. Her PL was no secret to going viral either. She is just a natural a comedic situations.

>>19916938

It's always interesing to see the ace and the runt of the gens overlaping with similar content.

>>19916881
Kiara is obnoxious when she does it.

>>19916881
Suisex is asian kino while Kiara is eurocringe.

>>19916919
>be Kiara
>the most earnest, diligent girl in the group
>is a go-getter and solves her own shit with relentless speed
>has a terrible personality
>has "The Voice"
Just how is it that we got the best qualities in the worst talent? Why do we have to suffer like this?

>>19916973

alban numbers are good but it's kinda difficult to not compare with luxiem.;. luca got 10k playing this, no?

>>19917012
calling europeans cringe in comparison to asian? You must be joking lol

We are entering a new era. The most popular English vtubers from small corporations are starting to surpass the least popular vtubers from Nijisaji EN.

>>19916688
I mean... most of the example you linked are females and when it comes to event SCs manjisanji is no meme. Also importantly Eden-gumi's 1.0 models were notoriously awful so getting new ones calls for a big celebration

>>19917165
What numbers is Pippa pulling now?

>>19916902
I mean, it is always better to be generic and play it safe rather than whatever was with that Kronii's Song

>>19916974
As compared to Suisei who literally does it in someone else's channel on collabs and during her outfit reveal?

>>19916854
Valentines day usually brings out vtubers creativity, hopefully April Fools does the same

>>19917234
>enter the numbers thread
>ctrl+F "suisei"
>5 hits
>being relentlessly shilled in the thread for weeks

>>19917201
Still lower than Finana.
She just seems big because she panders to 4chan, and we are in 4chan

>>19917283
Oh look my favorite seething 2 view is back

>>19917296
anyone who get more than 100 viewers is huge.

>>19917296
Panders to 4chan? She seems more like a schizo from here who was given a mic.

>>19917234
Suisei didn't memeify it and didn't encourage her audience to spam it in other hololive member's chats

>>19917165
At least screencap her numbers you nigger.

>>19917414
Who gives a fuck about numbers? lol

So I took a gander at the insane HoloEN overlap and it actually doesn't look as bad as originally though. Kronii should still be able to get a nice fat number for Ring Fit. IRyS starts an hour before everybody else which is fine. Bae is doing a superchat reading so only her most dedicated fans will be watching and Fauna is doing a debuff collab with an ID (Reine) so the tourists won't be going into that stream.

I know a lot of us were expecting a fat number for this Ring Fit and were upset to see the crazy overlap happening during it. However, looking at what the overlap actually is I don't think her numbers should be affected that much.

>>19916881
Because Suisei is asking you to buy her shit, not artificially inflate her numbers.

>>19917165
In a slightly related note to small corpo chuubas. How is that one Suisei shouted out doing? And could holoENs swing that kind of growth weight downwards

>>19917589
>slightly related
>actually not related at all
>shilling Suisei again
just admit you're her manager faggot

>>19917677
I said slightly since only part that was relevant was smaller corpo chuuba bit.

Delicious seethe. Salty that you're not getting that sweet Suisei buff huh

>>19917445
Are you fucking retarded? What thread do you think you're posting in?

>>19917751
He's one of the faggots that treats /#/ as their personal shitposting thread, because people KEEP BITING BAIT.

>>19917445
Fuck off, nigger.

>>19916493
Not even that.
Only Roberu gets 1K median.
Astel had like 700 median for February.

HolostarsEN are dead on arrival.
Imagine streaming in front of 500-700 people while watching Luxiem with 5K-15K streams and big superchat revenue.

They will get mindbroken.

>>19917589
Basically a huge surge of growth in subs and views. Smaller but nontrivial effect on her entire group. HoloEN could not only most definitely do something similar, you could argue they already have with Miori

>Vox couldn't even break 10k today in a collab stream
It's over, he is declining as expected...

>NA time
>NijiEN 21,763
HoloEN is dying...

>>19917922
If they're not complete retards like their NiggEN counterparts, they will at least have browsed this board (and especially this thread) and would be aware and prepared for what to expect.

>>19917938
Vox isn't the problem, the first gen managed to tap the Asian fujo market which is something I suppose. But instead of showing growth, their next get is a shadow of the first. There's only so many fujos to go around and most people don't want to stoop to that level for long if there are other paths to success. Vtubers are cringe to begin with but Vox is on another level.

That insanse 3D stream is already being clipped to hell. Some of the clips are gaining steam fast.

This will hype of HoloFes3 even more. I would be surprised if that event didn't have at least 200k buys.

>>19917970
It's 26k by my count.

>>19918008
Ehhhh. This board is full of morons. Want to go back and look at the HoloEN predictions?

>>19918029
That stream was a clip and fanart goldmine. It also was the perfect advertisement: give just a hint of how kino the real thing will be.

>>19917970
>>19918033
You shitters are blind. I'm eyeballing it and there's clearly over 50k people watching them right now.

>>19918024
Well, I'd say that isn't quite the case given these numbers, as it appears they have managed to cobble together some audience in NA hours >>19917970

>>19918029
Get real, Holofes is mostly JP audiences and they're still reeling from rushia.

>>19918115
Accounting the cull, it's 50k though.
Also alban went from 5k to 3k once the others starts.

>>19917970

15k of that is just the Luxiem collab. Good for Niji to find such a strong group.

>10 minutes stream
What the fuck are these three fuckers doing?

>>19917445
>/#/
>Who gives a fuck about numbers

Baffling post

>>19917970
No onei n HoloEN is streaming right now ... stupid retard

>>19918149
Eh less a month from debut that's sort of eh, you have to assume they'll fade a bit over time. But drastic decreases instead of growth is never ideal

>>19918236
Well, that's their fault. This complete lack of co-ordination leaving the ENTIRE Na Primetime slot open for their competitors is going to bite them in the ass each time they let it happen. Completely indefensible.

>>19918149
there is two 4k and 7k and in fucking minecraft with a collab, luca gets fucking double of that on horror kusoges.the audience in NA is minimal for them.

>>19918273
Genuinely looks to be a case of Luxiem gobbling up all of Noctyx's debut buff.

>>19918008
This board thought that Luxiem would fail completely too and will drag the girls with them.
This board has no idea, they only say shit based on tribalism.

It would be nice to see HolostarsEN getting mindbroken though.
Imagine joining the biggest vtuber agency in the world only to learn that only 500 people want to watch your streams.

I guess since the majority of them will be low quality recruits since the more talented guys will go to Niji they won't mind having 400-500 viewers instead of like 20.

>>19918291
man they just had 16k stream and kroni and mumei ar coming with rfa and singing. What would be the excuse of homos then?

absolute state of holoenkeks

>>19918327
No wonder Fungus is seething hard. He can't shittalk Luxiem to their faces so he shits on Council instead.

>>19918291
It's HoloFes right now. You don't even know their schedules.

>>19918331
No one on earth thinks that HolostarsEN will have huge numbers? Why would the talents be surprised? You can keep this post to once a thread too, if you really feel like ritual posting

>>19918300
It's still leagues better than the girls, and those are Council numbers.
HoloEN has genuinely dropped the ball, the poor scheduling, the breaks, all of it means they bleed live viewers to their competitors.

remember people making fun of them saying that they'll never break 8-10k ceiling combined? lol

>>19918394

>bleed live viewers to their competitors

I mean, at least to NijiEN they didn't. there's 0 overlap between the people that are watching the MC collab now and HoloEN

>>19918394
Meh HoloEN isn't really competing for the Asian fujo market. I sort of doubt their worried. It'll be fun to see the numbers after Holofes once the talents are done preparing for their money printing event. This is really Niji's last chance for a while and they don't seem to be doing much with it

i feel people are just shitposting with this 6k and 4k just to get grudgeposted with kroni and mumei later.

Holobros…

>>19918394
>Bleed viewers to their competitors
No, they're not faggot. Kiara release 15k viewers, and no Nijien got visible increase.

>>19917922
>HolostarsEN are dead on arrival.
>Imagine streaming in front of 500-700 people while watching Luxiem with 5K-15K streams and big superchat revenue.
>They will get mindbroken.
How is that any different from StarsJP? Well, other than the fact that Niji has so many bottom feeders there are actual below stars chubas in there.
Or any different from Niji females vs HoloEN?

>>19918496
Sub 10k are worth bragging now?

>>19918425
we saw a full female collab and that still reamins true. Only luxiem has any decent numebrs.

>>19918331
>HolostarsEN getting mindbroken though.
Can't be worse from what Miyabi experienced before. Only retard join Holostars for numbers

>>19918534
are you mad?

>>19918425
Aren't their ceiling still 7k?

>>19918552
did Holostars actually have breakdowns?

>>19918553

but it's true tho. did the girls got even close to something like this in numbers?

>>19918600
>>19918496

>>19918600
the females? yes
luxiem no
i would even say noctys also has 7k ceiling

>>19918621
That's even worse. Couldn't even reach 3k. What are you on about?

>>19918331
stupid shit went for homostars instead of expanding their audience from untapped markets like ES, KR, or EU

>>19918600
The girls with no males has 8-9k ceiling while males have 21-25k ceiling.

>>19918630
Ehhhhhh. I'd say that might be generous to noctys. Let's see in 100 days where they are. I bet the under

>>19918553
he is right tough

>>19918496
Purple lean man...

If some fag signed up for Holostars EN thinking that'll get instant success good numbers or interact with Hololive EN they deserve to get a breakdown or two

>>19918506
Man, imagine how funny it'd have been if StarsEN are filled with Manjisanji rejects just like how NijiEN with Hololive rejects?

>>19918630
Luxiem audience isn't EN audience though.

>>19918666
i agree, but they can alway go pander route.
>>19918699
that is obvious just saying their ceiling isnt that low

don't fall for the grudge post baits. that's like low effort (you) farming

>>19918492
GODDAMNIT anon, please just let me have some fun!

>>19918692
Does NijiEN (male) have any actual Americans in it?

>>19918646
people were saying it about nijien and its future waves but now everyone is just saying "these don't count!!!"

>>19918607
A little bit, yes. Miyabi was really, REALLY down after his debut was was watched by like 20 people and frickin' Yagoo himself had to go personally talk some pep into him.

>>19918729
I'm not sure they can. I'm not sure they can expand the base of paying fujos that much more. Maybe but they risk just diluting the money. But perhaps there's still more to squeeze out of lonely zhang women.

>>19918607
Miyabi had like single digit viewers for months and half of them told him to kys. Suzaku bails out because Holostars doesn't make any money. Kaoru shitshow and then Kira retirement

>>19918190
I actually think its 200k. At least that is the number I came up with when I put the numbers into my abacus.

>>19918665
That EN male audience came from NijiJP. They have huge overlaps there. They're just cannibalizing, not expanding their reach. You look at Kuzuha's super chat income and it's down.

>>19918729
That's kinda stupid. Their ceiling as a whole didn't grow, it's just the JP audience moving to EN males.

>>19918648
yep, if they didn't want to support Holostars why even create the branch at all?
not only that, but now they are going to have HolostarsEN stream for 400 people

just drop every single male vtuber activity
male vtubers can only thrive under Anycolor/Nijisanji
stop with this pathetic shit, Yagoo

>>19918534
Luxiem gets good views but Youtube isn't taking as huge a chunk out if their live view numbers as it does the girls so it looks more impressive than it actually is.

>>19918692
It's more likely for the rupture to happen than Niji to reject Vtuber applicants

>>19918750
You are really stupid. Sure you can count them, but it's a different audience and you're comparing them to a different group.

>>19918692
I doubt it. HomoShits EN will be filled with people desperate for a shot at their oshi instead

>>19918750
people said that about nijifemales and that remains, luxiem viewers are entire differnt tough.

>>19918836
i agree that they are not getting any cull but also could be atributed to their viewers being asians.

>>19918895
numbers are numbers, money is money, that's the end goal of any company, to get profit

>>19918496
Holy shit they're pulling 30k

>>19918910

what about a new branch?

>nah, you get 300 views median chuuba that are also yab bombs

>>19918852
>didn't want to support Holostars
>Got 3D debut
>Got a concert
>Got merchs
>Got their own counterpart of Hologra
>Got included in the Super Expo
Uh huh, Holostars totally had no support. Yep.

>>19918958
Then it's much simpler. You compare the whole boxes to each other. I'm pretty sure the Niji box didn't grow at all.
What you're doing though is selectively comparing specific groups with different audiences.

>>19918973
So is lying about toal ccv the new meme?
kind late to the party on this one.

>tfw anon started separating female and male number from nijien not counting them as a whole nijien branch

>>19919073
>i'm trying to be a numberfag but i don't know how to fit in

>>19919039
Cover only started supporting them when Luxiem proved that there was a market for Male Vtubers rumao

And even despite all that "support", Vox still earned more than them in one random Zatsu at 12 in the morning

>>19919073
you can add them togheter but ther is context behind them.

>NijiEN female cap 7k-10k
>NijiEN as a whole >20k
It's not that hard to understand...

>>19919134
>Cover only started supporting them when Luxiem proved that there was a market for Male Vtubers rumao
nigga they got 3d even before luxiem debuted or was anounced
>>19919149
pretty much

>>19919134

>when Luxiem proved that there was a market for Male Vtubers

luxiem didn't even exist when half of the list happened

>>19919176
>>19919183
WHY ARE YOU BITING THE BAIT
WHYYYYY
ANYONE WHO'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO STARSJP KNOWS THIS
WHYYYYYYYY DO YOU GIIIVVVEEEEEEEEE THE SHITPOSTER YOUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSS

>>19919134
>Luxiem
Stars support started increasing after they did their talk event last year which coincidentally happened with Coco graduation

>>19919136
>context
Oh context matters now? I thought big number > small number

>>19918910
>desperate for a shot at their oshi
Man, if even Anykara was smart enough to nip that kinda people in the bud, I doubt Cover will be the one to fall for it. Yagoo being outed as a serial rapist is far more likely to happen than a Homostar having a chance to even be close enough meet a Holomem face-to-face.

MAn, just what happened to this thread? It's like the average IQ dropped off a--
>almost 10 PM

oh...

>>19919134
>Cover only started supporting them when Luxiem proved that there was a market for Male Vtubers rumao
I hate Luxiem shitposters so much. StarsJP have literally gotten nothing since Luxiem, stfu

Ignoring the other shitflinging retards in this thread, someone tell me
How come VAs turned chuubas like OnoYuu and Tammy/Tomoe Tomiyasu don't get high numbers despite their fame?

>alban droped from 6k to 3k when luxiem started
that is insane

>>19919255
you need to put some facts for those blatant lies otherwise other retards will buy it and shit the cataloge with it.

>>19919291
10am jakarta time

>>19919318
Because of this:
>Literally who?

>>19919291
11 am SEA, Taiwan and China

>>19919286
Yeah right, anon. Anyone with talent and a bit of research knows how to dodge Cover's bs.

>So tell me, who is your oshi?
>Roberu
>No, I mean, who do you watch in Hololive?
>Oh I saw like, a lot of Korone clips. Yubi yubi haha
>What about Hololive EN?
>Oh yeah big fan! I watched a few Gura clips. A

Sound as clueless as possible about them and emphasize you watched Stars instead. Ez

https://youtu.be/xke-bq0nuBQ

The clip of Gura holding the middle finger is going to blow up soon. I just know it.

>>19919365
>Shitpostings during work/school hours
What the fuck are you even saying, nigga?

>>19919465
there is a reason sea are phoneposters

>>19919465
It's ES faggots and retarded burgers right now. It's about another hour or two before more of SEA is on lunch break.

>>19919454
I mean its been a few hours and its at 140k. It already blew up. Don't expect anything ridiculous like 1 million though

>>19919403
I'm pretty sure Cover has a policy against interpersonal relationships in the company. In fact, all companies worth their salt do. It's one of those things that is almost always enforced because no one wants to deal with whatever bullshit comes from a falling out from it.

>>19919403
>Sounding like a clipwatcher retard will get you into StarsEN
Do you realize the enormous stupidity of what you're claiming right now?

>>19919454

>>19919593
No, because people like Kronii and Mori were in fact, less than clipwatching retards before joining. And my shitpost 1 minute strategy clearly says emphasize watching holostar streams, downplay hololive interest (but don't deny it because let's be honest no one fucking discovers holostars first).

>https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1501754761041027079?s=20&t=xYaiym7jO5DM4TXw9X3n7A
Damn

So everybody doom posting about IRyS' new cover seems totally wrong. It already surpassed her last original song release in a fraction of the time. This will be the second song on her channel to hit 1 million. Its doing well for her.

Laplus interview with Robert Pattinson.

https://youtu.be/OqvQeI_ekVA

how the fuck they got this for her idk, but i'm curious about the numbers

December 6th.

>That's the worst thing they can do right now. Ethyria just started to find their footing after wasting their debut month on watchalongs and donation reading shit. The NijiEn fanbase has also only started knocking on their 7-8k ceiling. Debuting another wave would just put them back to square one again. Honestly, this year has been one of the worst if not the worst for Anykara

November 30th.

>even enthusiasts hoping for their success are only expecting maybe 1k normalization peak I think. The rest are thinking that they would fail and would stay at 300 or so maybe (which is "successful" but not if they put money behind them). Lots here are using the existing popularity level of Male Vtubers and extrapolating it to predict their success, which will at least get you the baseline expectation of success (even if they can't predict the potential ceiling). Time will tell, but as things stand, it's not really a rosy future for them.

November 22th.

>I think we, from the perspective of intellectual honesty and good faith, should establish how we think the males will go. I think that they will do as well as Ethyria but show growth instead of recline. Their debut buff will be big. I think the floor is 500 CCVs but the ceiling is 2k. I know literally nothing about the male vtuber scene, for all I know 500 CCV makes them the biggest pure male ENvtuber.

November 21th.

>Honestly, if I was niji management, the only way they could turn this around would be. Delay wave 4, let the first 3 waves actually simmer first so they can establish and actually GROW their fanbase from the soft 7k total cap that they currently have.

November 18th.

>It's just Wave 4. If the male wave can't bring the ceiling to 10k, they should just scrap the branch entirely.

October 27th.

>lol Selen singlehandedly handicapped wave 3 by stealing the show with the debut watchalong, props to her but the end result is NijiEN still has the same market cap but the lion share of it is distributed to her. She's going to do the same to the male wave.

>>19919736
what th efuck

>>19919723
Niji bros...

>>19919723
>>19919736
what in the flying fuck is this

>>19919723
>>19919736
I kneel, demon brat. Fuck Maxwell

>>19919723
WHAT THE FUCK

Now this is a flex. I fucking KNEEL Lap-sama!

>>19919736
La Plus interviewed Batman/Catwoman.
Is Cover big now?

>>19919723
>>19919736
I KNEEL, LAPLUS

>>19919723
>>19919736
Don't ever think you're anywhere near them, Finana

>>19919736
It's over nijibros, this is kizuna ai level. Hololive finally reach kizuna ai???

>>19919723
Fubuki and Subaru seething, their superhero westaboo cred is in shambles, mogged by the newbie.

>>19919732
Yet beaten by Lui of all people
Same cover as well

>>19919723
>>19919736
FUNGUS DONT LOOK

>>19919736
Nijibros, what about our livers...

>>19919723
>>19919736
>But they make just as much as their JP livers...
Finana......not like this

>>19919723
Man, Cover is promoting HoloX shamelessly. I can't help but feel kinda sad no previous gen got this much of a push.
Inb4
>oh but holox are just so much greated
Yeah nah most of them fell of a cliff with Laplus still clinging to greatness

>>19919894
arent they more marvel than dc?

>>19919723
What in the actual fuck?

>>19919723
no but seriously, how? have a lot of youtubers gotten to interview them for this? how the fuck

>>19919948
Pomu: I........don't want.......war.....

>people making abig deal of the boys first MC tour fo the world server
if anything theyare low
could weasily be 2 10k if they did this in jp time.

Also congrats to lap+

>>19919736
This can't be real right? Is it an interview where she pretends to interview them ala South Park style?
>>19919894
Foobs and Ducks are the Marvel flavor capeshit. They'd seethe if Yamada gets to interview Tom Holland.

>>19919723
>>19919736
This brat!

>>19919736
It's probably one of those things that alot of entertainment reporter interviewers do where the pr people interview the actors themself and send laplus the answers on video and laplus riffs a bit to make the questions her own. Still a nice get for her.

>>19918496
That's not very good for a minecraft group stream.

>>19919723
>>19919736
they're doing the international release junket
you can actually get in on this type of interviews as long as you have some "online" clout/credibility. having the subs numbers she has and cover making the contact is more than enough to get a slot

>>19920008
>have a lot of youtubers gotten to interview them for this?
Not really, no. They must really be wanting to push the Japanese box office for this release for some odd reason.

>>19919751
Based grudgeposter.

>>19920101
Tom holland gonna hang out with gura, hololive hollywood here we go!

>>19920101
>This can't be real right?
Official Cover twitter wouldn't post this if it isn't real. I think.

https://twitter.com/sopffo/status/1501752545718325250

>>19920146
This. I remember a million people including youtubers getting to interview the main cast for the new Jumanji movies a few years back as an example.

>>19919723
Absolutely unreal

>>19920222
Square love holos especialy pekora. This is no shocker.

>>19920222
>Pekora, Noel, Botan
SE does love Noel and Peko, don't they.

>>19920222
Another one. Jesus

>>19920101
Check the description:
映画『THE BATMAN-ザ・バットマン-』
タイトル:THE BATMAN-ザ・バットマン-
公開日 :2022年3月11日(金)
キャスト:ロバート・パティンソン、ゾーイ・クラヴィッツ ほか
公式HP :https://wwws.warnerbros.co.jp/thebatm......
(C) 2022 Warner Bros. Ent. All Rights Reserved TM & (C) DC

Cover's outbound sales team still got it I see.

>>19920307
noel had already did a video shilling the game. Probably were already preselceted

>>19919723
lmao how will nijis ever recover

When you are pulling serious advertising opportunities like we're seeing Holos get in this thread, the calculus around something like superchats probably shifts to being more of a tool for fan engagement instead of just money making

>>19920404
Nijisanji losing sponsorships while Hololive gets to interview Robert Pattinson...

>>19919723
>>19919736
This could have been Nijisanji if only Lauren didn't pirate nipple porn.

>>19920410
Now that I think about it, Kizuna Ai retiring left a sponsorship vacuum didn't it?

>>19918529
>all of holoen aside from gura are shitters according to holobrony

so when does luxiem get their adam & eve sex toys sponsorship so they can btfo these threads

>>19920353
I see that part. I thought that was just the typical movie advertising stuff though.
Like, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that a vtuber from Japan is interviewing two Hollywood actors who don't even speak Japanese. What the fuck...

>>19920505
shut up fungus

>>19920457
Wanna bet that, with >>19920503 being the case, this interview was gonna be done by Nijisanji until Nipplegate?

One Nijihomo down, only 2 to go. GO GO IRyS!!!!

>>19920505
but that's true anon, EN was a mistake

So how bad is Riku doing right now, despite the success of Luxiem?

When will they get to interview Chinese celeb like Fan Bingbing or Kris Wu?

>>19920505
im a last samurai tho

>>19920523
they will get some chink game shit
>>19920558
SHU BEHIND YOU THERE IS AGOBLIN ON YOUR BACK

>>19917589
I'll post the channel just so the resident 2view can seethe more https://youtube.com/channel/UCmB1E78Kdgd9z6hN3ONRKow.. Her last 5 streaming's vods surpassed 10k views. Suisei was a blessing for the girl
See this, 2view? Seethe

>>19920580
Who???

>>19920439
>>19920457
>>19920555
How crazy is it that with all the insane vtuber yabs we have seen over the years that the most damaging one is going to be some guy getting caught with Nipple Porn. Its almost too absurd to be real.

>>19920222
Wow Cover is getting lots of sponsors, nice to see.

>>19920505
That 10k minimum was set by the nip nijiniggers. At least learn your history, nigger.

>>19920580
Nobody give a shit, la+ interview freaking batman!!!

>>19920558
Kronii's ring fit is going to get the 10k, Irys is going to stop close at 7k

damn. sqenix really spent on the chuuba shilling. they did a 3(4?) day stretch with aoi last week too.

>Ms. Finana Ryugu-san, I heard that shit.

>>19920580
>Fan Bingbing
Ah, this was the actress kidnapped by the secret police who magically reappeared 3 months later, right? China is a fascinating place

>>19920505
There is no holoEN below 10k if you correct for the cull, even Kiara is a 10k-12k streamer in reality

>>19919736
>Laplus's channel
If she's a Niji, it would be on the main channel.

this one too
https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise-sunbreak/ja/topics/sp-program-mirror/

>>19920706
YAGOO I KNEEL

>>19920741
>monhun
ugh

>IRYS RANDOM POLL
>IRYS RANDOM POLL
>IRYS RANDOM POLL

>>19920706
My personal rrat is that everybody in cover, from YAGOO all the way to the guy that cleans the toilets in the office, heard about the discord leaks and they are all going scorched earth to crush Niji after them.

>>19920741
Surprised its not lamy or luna

>>19919723
>>19919736
Bros, remember Iroha talking about somebody in the studio that she shouldnt be talking about? Instead of holoEN. Could it be Patman?

I imagine it would be something like this but more controlled because COVID.. https://youtu.be/rK1upyDagaI

>>19920222
>>19920741
anycolor mistake is not getting these two
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1372745402538102787
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1393038762788024325

>>19920783
literally like top5 most popular game in japan
so is nice. for bakatera.

>>19920824
she ended it too fast, not even 1 minute.

>>19919948
Your an idiot if you think laplus is getting enough money out of this to catch up to Vox SCs

>>19916681
hey man

>>19918033
>>19918115
>>19918190
>>19918800
and this is why nobody trusts nijiniggers

>>19920741
Oh hey, good for Leona.

>>19916971
I cant believe i missed this kino shit...

>>19920410
It's cope to say superchats don't matter, it's huge numbers but it is still a little embarrassing. It is pure "virtual pig" (the derogatory term in japan used to look down on vtuber fans as more pathetic than your normal otaku) stuff to prey on individual donations from lonely people. The less hololive lean in on it the better from a PR side of things.

>>19920932
Irys is mogging em right now so called luxiem strongest niji en.

>>19917970
Will they funnel into Mumei's karaoke?

>>19920741
Leona plays MonHun?

>luca starts playing the game
>numbers starts dropping
what the fuck do women even like to watch?

>>19920741
why does fubuki and that one guy separated from the rest?

>>19919526
>140
You mean 200k?

>>19921076
Nipplebros, not like this

>>19921076
RORU

>>19921076
Advertisements for things like movies and games are strictly for corporations with a strong reputation for respecting copyright...

>>19921076
kek

>>19921076
nipplebros... not like this...

Lacunny... The next pillar of Hololive...

>>19921076
>5ch screenshots
Wow, we really have become /hlgg/2

>>19921076
Nipplebros...

>>19921185
Angry? Embarrassed? Don't identify so closely with a corporation and you can avoid feeling this way.

>>19921076
HOLY LMAO

>>19921071
>what the fuck do women even like to watch?
Things that they can flick their beans to.

>>19921071
He has been streaming for an hour and they just started playing? What the fuck have they been doing?

>>19921076
Roren this is all your fault...

>>19921076

>>19921256
tour the world server.

>>19921185
Laughing at 5ch translations was always a thing newfag

>>19919723
>>19919736

YAGOO I KNEEL

>>19921174
>I don't want Yamada to get involved with a man...
I feel that brother, I feel that

>>19920642
That nipple yab is actually a crime in Japan. Nijisanji employs a criminal

>>19920580
Didn’t Kris Wu get arrested last year for rape allegations? Is he actually still promoting shit at this point?

>>19920741
I see:
Hololive
.LIVE
774 inc.

Any other corps?

>>19921076
They're never gonna let Lauren live that down

>>19920008
>Hololive has big audience
>Lapchama is popular
>cunny

>>19921282
>>19921256
pomu also tried to leech them to gain some numebrs but got nothing sonce she joined them.

>>19921076
Oh jeezuz.

>>19919723
>>19919736
>Hololive being referenced in capeshit soon.

>>19920741
Wait, no Niji at all?

>>19921174
>324
lol this literally happens to every single holo except for like 3, almost everyone has "official" interactions, even fucking unicorn friendly holos like rushia or koyo were on the fucking pokemon tournament with the 2015 champion interviewing them

>>19921419
>associating with pirates

>>19920222
>>19919723
RORU RORU RUMAO NIJISANJI IN SHAMBLES!

>>19920607
Two Nijihomos down, only 1 to go. GO GO IRyS!!!

>>19921174
>I dont want Yamada to get involved with a man…
You said it, JP niki.

>>19921419
capcom is pro hololive they never sponsor nijis lol

>>19921491
Kronii will get it if IRyS doesn't.

>>19921370
You missed Re:Act (Leona)
The others are just regular indie streamers iirc

>>19921421
>New flash movie
>his room is full of weeb culture references
>There's a Pekora stream in one of his computers

kek it's gonna be so funny if some retard make a thread on /tv/ about this.

>>19921510
Well, they better after they kicked off the copystrike arc. I mean, in the end it was a bitter lesson that needed to be learned, but gods it definitely blew chunks for Hololive when it happened.

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1501761202690486272
Mumei's karaoke got rescheduled to two hours from the original time. Not sure if this is a net benefit or net loss for her since it does give her some breathing room from how packed EN is going to be in 20 minutes but puts her in a worse timeslot. Very beneficial for Kronii though

>>19919751
thank you for the good work grudgeposter.

>>19921735
there's already a thread
>>/tv/164917546

>>19921756
Mumei moves her streams all the time when there is excessive overlap. If they coordinated their schedules ahead of time she wouldn't have to do that.

The closer we are to HoloFes, the more powerful Watamage becomes.

Is this the peak of pre HoloFes Hololive or will we see more coming in the next few days?

>>19921818
Gods, if Mumei ends up taking the lead to tard-wrangle her gen-mates into some semblance of organization once summer rolls around...

>>19921243
if you are hlgg 2.0, you are already closely with a corporation, that being cover.

>>19921076
OMG how can they even recover from this ...

Yeah Noctyx didn't do as good as expected

>>19919723
>>19919736
I KNEEL

How to improve nijisanji to get them at this level?

>>19921955
Are you the seething 2view schizo? You haven't talked about Yagoo's anus yet

>>19921967
Uki...

>>19921174
>40
Asking the real question
Although, we may have a glimpse with Nene boxer ...

>>19921985
Vox a whore he fucked already. No companies gonna touch him.

>>19921985
>How to improve nijisanji to get them at this level?
Don't get caught pirating shit for one.

>>19921985
Tell them to stop pirating nipple porn

>>19921998
> call others corp lickers
> don't want to be called one back when the thread is basically one for hololive
look at your own ass anon

>>19921985
public execution of nippleman

>>19921955
I hope you don't like Batman

>>19921985
Go back in time and focus on quality and talent development instead of quantity

>>19921967
How the fuck did that Vox stream only get 6.9k. Are they a debuff to Luxiem?

>>19919723
>>19919736
Why would they ever want to cooperate with Hololive? Do they not like the Chinese Market? See to it that your stupid batman movie will get a 10% rating in China

>>19921967
they need to satrt pandering and celerbeating being alive or someshit as an excuse to do asmr evey 2 days.

>>19922087
look at the time they streamed retard-kun

>>19921985
maybe nipplesanji shouldn't have mr whore as their biggest en for a start

>>19922101
I don't think Hololive is quite that rent free in the entirety of China's populace, but it would be insanely based if they were

>>19921967
is this irony? one is with 6k and another with 5k

>>19922128
And zhang bootlicker.

>>19922060
I wonder if there is any internal pressure to suggest to Lauren to graduate of his own accord. Anycolor probably has no grounds to terminate his contract but if he quits then wouldn't that be nice. His contract is up for April 2023, right?

>>19908719
I think there's a good reason why 5 is the typical number of people released in a branch per year.
Lazu + Obsydia was 6, close to 5 - and they had relatively good viewership.
But then Ethyria came out within the year and flopped.
Same thing with the males, Luxiem out of the gate captures a previously underserved market, but Noctys comes out within the year and gets relatively subpar numbers.

>>19922101
>Chinese
>Market
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19921985
not ask this on the hololive circlejerk thread would be a good beginning

>>19922170
the one with 5k was on a collab with vox and shu.
6k was with na prime alone and horror buff

They arent doing good.

>>19922209
If I were him, I'd hold out for a juicy severance if they want to cut my contract. Although maybe that's not how things work in Japanese business culture

>>19920439
>>19920503
With Kizuna gone, where would sponsors go to get the anime market? Nijisanji. Do they want to associate themselves with porn? At this point, Niji had polluted their brand with people saying "Nippleman" at one of their livers, on top of many other offenses.

>>19922209
you guys are aware that all of those things were only delayed and not cancelled right? outside of shitposts, those sponsorships will come back when he comes back.

>>19922216
doesnt help that noctys are unknow to most of the branch they never speak to the girls until the day of debut.

>>19922307
dyrbi

>>19922087
>How the fuck did that Vox stream only get 6.9k. Are they a debuff to Luxiem?
Time of day they streamed and they're playing video games. Fujos don't want to watch them playing video games; they want to watch them shamelessly pander to their audience.

stop using shit from here to baitpost on the catalog, makes it hard to keep splits up

>>19922216
Noctyx got 6k and 5k just today anon.
>>19922240
It wasn't a collab with Shu, it became a impromptu collab.
And the buff thing is ridiculous. If you want to be like that, you could break down luxiem high viewership numbers as well with buff streams and not consider anything.

>>19922299
Nijisanji will win in any areas where people want to not piss off the chinks. Kizuna's retirement will help Nijisanji more than Hololive.

>>19922307
>sponsorship delayed
That means cancelled.

>>19922404
>it wasnt a collab
>it was just an improtu collab
nigga make no difference

Luca got 12k with that game btw.

>>19922401
It doesn't work like that, retard. It's not like people from here are intentionally making them, but seethe anyway

>>19922281
If he was smart he'd have a lawyer on call.

>>19922518
Luca also got 3k in the beginning. You might want to look at the numbers for luxiem in their first weeks.

>>19921967
how does nina got 5k?

>>19922401
You wanted war, didn't you?

>>19922299
only ones who do that are you guys in here, and that's because you anons hate nijisanji lol

>>19922649

anon, look at the title

>vox akuma

>>19922649
>VOX AKUMA
gee anon it's a real head scratcher

>>19922649
vox on call.
>>19922648
playing action shit, then changed his content and time slot to what alabn is playing now.

>>19922681
Imagine being such a child and fighting over vtuber agencies.

>>19922721
>>19922743
oh....didn't see that.

>>19922681
not a nijinig, my oshi's a low 4view so the split isn't very active

>>19922772
Anon 4chan is where I come to indulge in my inner child. It's like a ballpit but online

>>19922772
Don't insult Fulgur like that, he's reading this

>>19922768
Yes, and Shu gets numbers worse than Alban in that same timeslot. but well, its not like a expect a good discussion from this thread, unfortunately.

>>19922772
Fungal Ovaries and Finana not like this....

>interview with male lead of popular WB movies just before holofes and expo
watamage or mio witch?

>>19922772
Imagine being such a child and badmouthing other companies behind their backs to make you feel good about your pathetic selves.

Our favorite sheep is now live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGSAi3lygbA

>>19922876
i can't watch 2views anon, this immense pit forms in my stomach when i see the number and it gives me insane anxiety

>>19922859
What was Mio's prediction for La+?

Can't people stop with the tribalfagging? Mods need to put a new rule

>>19922209
Last thread, anons speculated that Anycolor was planning on the Yumeoi treatment. Basically slowly chipping him away from collabs and opportunities until he quits.

>>19921281
>2021

>>19922866
seething much huh anon. im not even a nijifag but vshojo fag and you fag is already defensive like that. so pathetic.

>>19922837
>worse than Alban in that same timeslot
only if he plays pokemon or platfroms which for alban would be dishonored and gets lower than shu.
nigga i follow this homos since the beggining ecept for ike. Mofo is not bringing new viewers and lives on luxiem shadow.

Kson's trying to salvage some Prism 2view