/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why do anons post that same exact post?

>>19875429
Because they have overly optimistic expectations about what being a vtuber will be like. They think it'll be like being a fan only much more fun. It's a business at the end of the day, everyone is trying to get popular and make money not just hang out.

>>19875502
It's not business. It's a grift. That mistake is why streamers and vtubers are always "amazed" that they end up surrounded by the worst parts of society.

why even frame this as something vtuber specific
this is life for anyone with one foot in content creation, everyone is fake as shit and your "friends" will drop you like a rock when you become irrelevant. i feel like everyone eventually either develops significant trust issues or just becomes apathetic to it all

https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1501303458821021707
LOL

>>19875502
But she's an indie who doesn't have to overwork herself over shit like appearing in HoloFes.

They think they can escape reality but no matter where you go, someone will always follow in your very footsteps. No matter where you go, you'll always be in your own company.

>>19875429
Indie means they actually believe in the project rather than seeing as a job. It takes untreated mental illness to really enjoy doing this (see: vshojo).

>>19875617
>Translation: The Vtubers that I want to know turned out to not be bitter cunts behind the scenes and don't want to associate with the dumbest slut in a company known for having nothing but dumb sluts

>>19875586
This and it targets mostly broken and unstable people so if you have even a modicum of empathy you're going to feel like shit peddling parasocial relationships to failures that will just keep spiraling further thanks to the very role you play for them

All your industry "friends" are at best colleagues but in reality just competition or hangers on that will turn on you the moment it benefits them

And in the end almost no one watches you because of the content you make, it doesn't matter what game you play or how well, whether you try to do fun an inventive streams or not. People watch you for the facade of companionship you create and surface level attraction to your voice and the avatar you boot up, you could do just zatsus doing nothing but moans and kiss noises and your base paypigs would probably just appreciate you more

>use fans as stepping stone to chase clout
>get there and find out everyone is a miserable person
Get fucked

>woman being this retarded at this age

Roru,
Rumao even

>>19875617
>make a sadpost about how you can't trust anyone really wants to be your friend and not just use you
>twitter replies fill up with random 2-views wanting to collab with you

They dont have a manager to tell them that no one wants to hear that shit.
Everyone is miserable, everyone is depressed; this is what the world is, at least in its current state. We dont need MORE people reminding us.

>>19875632
And she doesn't have the support from friends (or if you want to be skeptical, colleagues who share the same hardships) and / or staffs either

>>19875586
>It's not business. It's a grift.
Why and whats the difference?

>>19876153
Femcels, when will they learn?

>>19875617
She had a close friend and cheated on him, she's the last person that should complailn

>>19875429
>>19875617
>have tons of people who will support you no matter what
>still feel lonely anyway
do they think they're too good for their fans and only view them as tools?

>>19875502
Agreed, they saw top vtubers and thought, "Huh that's such an easy way to make money and fame, I can do even better than them,"
Little did they know that being at the top requires incredible talent or luck, and they, most are introverted NEET who don't have many friends to slap some realities to them, overestimated their self value.

Kind of the same in the other parts of the entertainment industry, a lot of aspiring celebs fails, quits, or depressed.

>>19877111
I don't think how many fans you have makes any difference to how lonely you feel, loneliness is about real life connections not how many randos online love you

>>19876075
what you said is mostly true, but there are ways to mitigate this:
>All your industry "friends" are at best colleagues but in reality just competition or hangers on that will turn on you the moment it benefits them
The vtuber niche encourages symbiotic relationships. vtubers tends to aggregate themselves into cliques. Trust, sharing viewers, collabs, being in the same views range, and giving the "family" experience. vtubers "betraying" the clique gives nothing but trouble and it's mostly done because of drama behind curtains, not as a business decision.

>And in the end almost no one watches you because of the content you make, it doesn't matter what game you play or how well, whether you try to do fun an inventive streams or not. People watch you for the facade of companionship you create and surface level attraction to your voice and the avatar you boot up, you could do just zatsus doing nothing but moans and kiss noises and your base paypigs would probably just appreciate you more
People don't stick to watch the first vtuber they see just because they give them attention. They have to see something interesting in said vtuber. Personally I've followed and watch vtubers that have a combination of personality I vibe with and content I am interested in. Like if there was a vtuber with interesting personality but only streams Apex all day every day, I wouldn't watch it.

Some vtubers are in for money, others because they are lonely, others because they are either fans of vtubing, or a certain kind of niche games they want to stream, or just for art's sake (rare).

>>19875429
An attention whore farming pity/sympathy

>>19875429
Would they be happier as 2 views getting groomed?
At least they're getting money.

>>19877163
they're all talking about making friends with other vtubers so it isn't explicitly a real life thing and it's not like they're playing a character and distancing their actual selves if they're venting something as personal as this.

>>19875429
>Choose to be a performer
>Surprised when performing means taking on a persona different than your personal feelings

>>19875617
>usually busy most nights
What did she meant by this

Those are the people who view listeners as numbers rather than people.
Poetry.

>>19875429
pretty sure it's because she's a veibae tier bitch, maybe she should work on that part

>>19875429
I’m going to save this frog.

>>19875429
>steals someones art
>NO IM SO LONELY WHY WON'T ANYONE BEFRIEND ME!!!

It was her fault for being a cunt like nijiniggers

>>19879028
>steals someones art
spoonfeed me anon. I'm opening my mouth wide and clear just for you

>>19879110
her vtube avatar was made by someone, she scammed the artist halfway and just took the avatar herself and made the finishing touches.

>>19875429
Because they’re all cynical and start treating even long time friends like clout chasers the instant they get even a taste of success.
Also doesn’t help that 2/3 of their job is chatting people up on discord. that’s where they try to make and talk to friends, so there is 0 separation between work and personal life.

>>19879155
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRtYZKAsupR1EqQ4FadNO15h8SqpU_erSJ6ux-j3owHSgeYHt9Kfpli0fsFqBgYISg63DM8f-vkVily/pub
You mean this?

>>19876498
shit, she had a tight group of anonymous /k/omrades, and she scammed them. She IS the last person that should complain.

>>19875429
Immediately after tweeting this she left to go get railed by her boyfriend. I can't take these thot's problems seriously.

>>19875617
Maybe you shouldn't have cheated on your husband and scammed a bunch of people, whore.

>>19875429
Why do women act like this? Why is money and attention still not enough for them?

>>19875617
>hold myself to the standard that they expect from me
Translation:
>How dare they expect me to not be a bitch?!

>>19879028
Nene...

>>19880286
The ones that should know her best from an outsider's perspective (vshojo) don't hang out with her and that's why she feels she has no group to which she belongs to. Chances are she's a bitch behind cameras and nobody wants to hang out with her. No good person would cheat on her husband or scam anons who showed her goodwill, if she's dying alone, she deserves it.

>>19875429
>>19875617
It's so funny to open up the thread and see these two posts.

>>19877553
believe it or not, sex

>>19875429
That's what happens when you put your happiness on others. If you're unhappy before, you won't be happy now. Move to new places, find new friends means nothing, because you still bring the unhappiness everywhere with you.

>>19875429
this just looks like a dishonest attempt to network.

Who gives a fuck? Why do we always have these low effort twitter threads of some shit someone said on twitter?

>>19880788
Why not, it's not like this board is known for it's quality posting.

This is why male vTubers are superior. Menhera percentage is much lower - especially in an industry were people work more than 40hours a week. Women won't do it most of the time

>>19879329
Man artists are cunts.

>>19880882
Anon if they are not menhera they would just be a face streamers

>>19880487
When was the last time any of them mentioned froot?

>>19880788
>we

>>19880882
mysta is the most menhera vtuber I know of

there are too many friendless losers in this hobby
if it werent, there wouldnt be so many google docs as a result of everyone being so fucking maladjusted like >>19879329

>>19880943
At least they keep their feelings to themselves and an hero's away from the public eye as a man should.

>>19879329
>MYCONCEPT CHARACTER IS FULLYMINE
Newfagchamas don't know that she forced her pre-vtuber simps to create a whole character design and lore for her and hashtags, but she will never give them any credit because they don't have big numbers and her mind is stuck in 'im a victim' loop.

>>19875429
>be unhappy
>pretend to be happy
>get increasingly depressed because nobody tries to cheer you up because nobody knows you're unhappy
women lol

>>19881137
I agree on that, but women are on average much worse

>>19880788
I need these threads to remind myself these are real people with flaws that shouldnt be trusted easily. It would be too easy for me to fall into being a simp, trusting them and getting hurt later.

>>19879329
Kek. What a piece of work. So she has a habbit of commissioning dogshit artists with mental health issues, then acts all surprised throws a fit when they don't turn out to be that good. Imagine how retarded you must be to pay 2000€ to some self-deprecating loser who writes like a 13 year old.

Excuse me, but what "community" she talking about actually?
Or is it pms-whining about society?

>>19876069
>even tho I’m also a dumb slut who cheated on her husband while he was in deployed

>>19880262
Yeah, actually. Having a husband means having someone that supports you all the time. Well, unless toxic asshole or he's with the military.

>>19882317
>a habbit of commissioning dogshit artists with mental health issues
so, every artist?

>>19881483
etikachama...

Because they genuinely believe that becoming a character on the internet will make people like them for who they are. They don't realize that they have to put on an act.

>>19875429
>I'm tired of putting on a mask waaaah

She's a VTUBER for fucks sake. She's hiding behind an avatar..

>>19875429
Two reasons that work in tandem. First, you have to be pretty deluded about what it means to be a vtuber in the first place to make a yolo indie debut, so it's not surprising you become disillusioned. Second, it's not a bad strategy to try and trap the few followers you have by making them feel like they mean something to you.

>>19882480
Thats true.

>>19883419
It amazes me that the side of humanity which wears the most mask also complains the most about them.
>disguise your personality
>conceal your bitter nature
>cover your face
>gussy yourself up
But apparently utilizing the model is a step too far.

>>19883555
I agree, women use the most masks while complaining about it.

>>19875429
>I thought by becoming a twitch thot I was going to make friends.
This is how retarded she sounds.

>>19877111
They are women anon

>>19877530
westerns are notorious for being bad at understanding roommate-chuuba separation

>>19880452
No, she actually has friends that care for her, specially polka

>>19875429
Small businesses are the backbone of America.

>>19875617
>WHY DOES NOBODY WANT TO BE FRIENDS WITH SOMEONE WITH A DECADE OF DOCUMENTED SCUMBAG BEHAVIOR? WHY DO I HAVE TO CHANGE?!
How are these people real.

>>19875429
>Be an attractive woman who gets paid to play video games and be desired by their chat

cry my a river

>>19881137
You don't know a lot of vtubers then anon.

>>19882475
Zogbots were human once too

>>19875617
>>19875429
Imagine being so ungrateful to your audience that you don't even consider them as people unless they have the capacity to be your colleague. That's like becoming a member of a band and only expecting to become friends with people from other bands and not engaging with your dedicated fans. Fucking engage with your community.

>>19880882
>watch vox stream
>dick sucking troons and fags
>close stream

Them vox showed them how cancerous >male vtubers is gonna be

>>19879329
How bad does it have to be for me to see her as a horrible person even when written from her victim perspective?
You can just genuinely see how much of a nightmare she is when looking at the story about the second artist. She harassed him every time she saw him playing games, even though at that point it wasn't even at the due date, threw a fit over small details, and almost like clockwork she starts "negotiating" the price after work is done.
For an "artist," she sure is unsympathetic. Or she knows exactly which buttons to press to break someone down to get her money back.

>>19880882
This is the opposite of what is seen on /wvt/
All males are menheras because the lack of numbers breaks them down

>>19888299
Complaining about a rushed shitty job when someone had weeks in advance to do it properly is quite normal anon.