/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

cope

Yesterdays Superchats

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

I'm actually somewhat impressed by how thoroughly Kronii was able to undercut herself as a channel to where even when she finally has a good schedule, she can't bring her audience back.

I admire that one Niji fan for defending Nijisanji until the end in that last thread.

https://youtu.be/SqrwHmo_sGg
Numberfags...what should we do to save her? This is actually a really good cover of Identity, but the numbers...I can't
I have been spoiled by Suisei tier numbers lately
I want IRyS to get Suisei's Phony numbers in this life...
Suisei still needs to kneel to that Renai Circulation tho

>>19865271
fuck off holobrony

With how things are, HoloFes3 and HoloExpo might spell the death of HoloEN in NA.

>>19865518
surely this time hololive will be over anon

Why are they like this?

>>19865518
why?

>>19865271
fungus is seething especially hard today

>>19865408
IRyS does't need saving.
>I want IRyS to get Suisei's Phony numbers in this life...
IRyS doesn't have a soulful voice, she very technical, bland competent. A different music genre would help her a lot, pop anime songs aren't doing her any favors.

>>19865408
It's slightly faster than Okayu x Lui's version. Not sure how it could do much better than that.

>>19865800
Which genre would you give her? Slow songs?
Considering omegalul is her producer, I don't think it'll happen.

>>19865518
holofes rose stadium soon

I just noticed Noah has more subs than Nose. How long has this been the case? I'm not a VSPOfag

>>19865427
Holo board, seethe about it

>>19865983
Nose...

>>19865874
Most people find she sounds pretty good in her lower voice at 1:20. Should make songs that exploit that. https://youtu.be/SqrwHmo_sGg?t=80

Are people sleeping or what? I expected better from Mumei's return stream and Kronii playing a game with a heavily NA pandering hedgehog.

>>19865195
>HoloLIVE
>Doesn't use "Livers" to address their chuubas

What does YAGOO means by this

>>19866193
they are not organs

>>19866193
>AnyCOLOR
>Doesn't use "Colors" to address their chuubas

>>19866141
this is what not streaming often for prolonged periods does to your numbers, ask literally any indie or /asp/ie

>>19866026
its a shojo board, actually.

>>19866456
speaking about the whores, i wonder why there's never been an anon that tries to do tallies or whatever for the twitch side, could include the isegye girls that always get posted here

>>19866551
/lig/ already tracks indies, one could only mix those and /vsj+/ numbers for twitch.

>>19866551
The existence of raids is one of the reasons why a tally is always a bit suspect for Twitch, but really until recently it was just Vshojo for 'big vtubers' on Twitch.

>>19866631
/lig/ is a numbers thread?

It's a good thing that HoloEN takes frequent breaks. Ame also mentioned that most if not all of HoloEN doesn't wear a mask or put up an act and their IRL personality is the same as their online one, added with some lore ingredients. It's mentally healthy in the long run, but of course, Rushia is Rushia.

>>19865408
should join in on that gura x mumei x irys tricolore airline cover. maybe ask to host it on her channel

>>19866551
There's no vshojo or isegye fans here to do that. We like to horse race our own horses, not think of other horse racing rings outside of the country.

>>19866653
Imagine the seeth when Justin, CEO of Vshojo, buys Isegye and makes it his Vshojo KR branch.

>>19866681
Numbers thread for twitch and large indies. It runs on the assumption that the cull doesn't exist for youtube.

>>19866697
>thinks the workplace is the proper venue to try to make friends (specially with direct competitors)
Person in the screencap fell for the “artistic community” meme.

>>19865874
>What genre would you give her
Broadway style showtunes. Her princess voice is out of this world.

https://youtu.be/k1bRo5M7UDQ
https://youtu.be/TxBLSlFKb10

Luca inclining to a minimum 6k streamer in these hours.. b-bros they're still getting stronger..

>>19866697
>trendhopper bandwagons a hobby, hangs out with clout-chasers and ironicfags, feels unfulfilled and lonely
no shit

>>19865230
It might take a while for her to rebuild that lost audience retention. At this rate, Mumei might catch up to her

>>19866697
>tried to become friends with backstabbing vwhorejo cunts
what did she expect?

>>19866914
Tell him to celebrate that on stream.

>>19866858
she probably wants that Hololive collab pass, but realized it's impossible. Even Lazulight/Obsydia fail at that. Same goes for Vshojo and OTV. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of new vtubers after Nov 2020 wanting to collab with Myth even to the point of joining nijiEN. It was kinda unfortunate that omega doesn't let them. and Gura, the ghost queen, is fine with that.

>>19866697
The indie scene is infested with clout chasers.

>>19867043
i love how especially idiotic this post is based on the person in question and the context

>>19866153
I have seen both cases, so this isn't true.

>>19867196
Cope.

>>19867196
I have literally never seen a Hololive fan describe their oshi by referring and comparing them to a Niji streamer.

>>19865408
>This is actually a really good cover of Identity
Yeah, I think its the best one out of all of them. She fucking nailed it.

Also, get the number rot out of your head. It hit 200k after about 2 days which is a much better performance than her originals. Will probably be at 300k by the end of the week and could hit 1 million in a month or so. This song is a hit for her.

When you look at it from daily ranking perspective, IDs seems to be having a good day (morning?) so far, seems to be even inline with their Asian hours numbers.

>>19867361
now i get why petra and anya have a split together

>>19867361
does yugo count as a nijigirl?

>>19867317
To be fair, holofags wouldnt know any niji streamers

>>19866858
Depressed clock is doing well at that, though. Not hundreds of friends, but she seems to be getting along pretty well with her fellow members at least (both online and offline)

>>19867043
Doesn’t look like it at all.
It looks a lot more like someone entering a professional field thinking it will be like the Picasso crowd or the RatPack with hanging out and throwing parties and expressing yourself creatively without a care in the world while making lots of money doing what you love…

Then realizing in reality being a professional entertainer means hard work, preparation, professionalism **and** dealing with the metric ton of envy, jealousy, clout chasing and backstabbing that comes with a field where your peers can be worse than your antis in trying to put you down to climb on your back.

>>19867446
Isn't that the point?

>>19867446
I watch Honhima, Selen and Rosemi, though

>>19867490
>Then realizing in reality being a professional entertainer means hard work, preparation, professionalism **and** dealing with the metric ton of envy, jealousy, clout chasing and backstabbing that comes with a field where your peers can be worse than your antis in trying to put you down to climb on your back.
Yep, 100%. Just look at the NijiEN discord leaks. Some "friend" to Kiara Pomu turned out to be.

>>19867446
I know Shiina because I watch Okayu a lot, does that count

>>19865408
It's going to beat the Kizuna Ai farewell version at least.

>>19867540
Nah, it contradicts what the anon said about “seeing holofans highlighting their favorites by contrasting with nijisanji members just as much as the other way around”.
That’s unlikely as fuck because most holofans wouldn’t know any.

>>19866914
Rosemi was able to get 3k with Walking Dead. It's a pretty buff game (at least the first couple streams)

>>19867713
This

As a Holofag the only reason I know who Kuzuha is because of fags in this thread. We don't think about Nijisanji at all and I couldn't name another member if I tried. Yet you Nijiniggers are absolutely obsessed with us and the Hololive talents.

>>19867713
I literally just said "I've never seen a Hololive fan do this," blindchama

VS buffin niji jp girls. Niji fans should be thanking hololive.

>>19867769
I think we can agree that both sides do in some way, otherwise this retarded rivality wouldn't exist on literally all social media for years.

>>19866914
They are indeed. So I guess lesson to be learned is to try dabbling on both timeslots for a while before going back to a fixed timeslots. He was just a 3-5k chuuba at this timeslot very recently, guess some of those Asian hours streams pandering to Asian audiences helped
(And don't get me wrong, there is no shame in that either, Holo did the same before after all. Wonder how his SC currency distribution is looking like, though)

>>19867769
>we
>us
kek, thus post reeks of
>hello fellow holofans, how are our lovely livers doing

>>19867862
Nijisanji streamed VS first retarded kun

>>19867735
Luca generally gets 5k-6k while streaming in those hours.

>>19867951
And nobody give a shit.

Why Kronni doesn't stream more and use her tits and voice to get more money? Her tits are fucking huge, she's sexy as fuck, she could make use of it. Even without her doing anything I already get hard

>>19867910
At least on the EN side the retarded rivalry stemmed from the /jp/ days where Nijifags shat on Holofags when they were still tiny (and of course Nijimeido protecting the Nijifags).

>>19865408
IRyS will take a while to incline because of how stupid they were on her originals. You can't bury talent.

>>19868049
She did it for her first 2 days of monetization then realized that she was just prostituting herself so she stopped because she has some shred of dignity

>>19867910
The rivalry that exists is not symmetrical. If you want to take the worst of both fanbases that would be like this for each

Hololive
>you should watch Hololive because they’re the most popular vtubers in the world
Nijisanji
>you should watch Nijisanji because they’re better / more talented / less restricted than Hololive

Both are retards but not in the same way

>>19867862
funny thing about this, i got nui's stream on my recommended just now, and i got honma's vod of it earlier, and i don't watch nijis at all

>>19868049
She hates her boobs.
She had Vox's quality of chat when she first started pandering which is why she stopped, she felt disgusted by all the coomers jacking off in her chat.

>>19867596
Pomu was talking about how both companies announced male recruitment at the same time. What does that have to do with Kiara?

why is mumei screeching

>>19868115
I remember she mostly did the meme shit, not coomer bait?

>>19868075
HoloEN converts to NijiEN are always unpleasant. The only Nijifags I have ever had good discussions with were never holofans to begin with, even if they watch Suisei or someshit.

Susan kill 5k of Kuzuha viewers

>>19868212
shame

>>19868201
YouTube box things per game sometimes. When Needy Girl was the meta I was getting even two views suggested

>>19868281
It's Mumei, she does that sometimes.

>>19868049
her fans are one of the worst out there next to chumkeks thats why. she was filtering her fanbase after she took a break months ago.

>>19867043
>she probably wants that Hololive collab pass, but realized it's impossible.
KSon and DD collab should be doable

>>19865408
>Numberfags...what should we do to save her?
What she needs is to do more song covers on her own and put her foot down if Cover is too damn anal to let her do so. Song covers help with discoverability since they will be spread to the likely audience that watches the many covers of the same song.

>>19868185
>HoloFan is obsessed with Hololive
>NijiFan is obsessed with Hololive
They are the same

>>19868300
>>19868075
>>19868185
generally those that make those comparisons are the ones who began with hololive and then changed to nijisanji over time, so in a lot of cases they compare it.
With NijiEN a new round of those fans began to appear, even though many of those only really know anything about nijien and not nijisanji in general.

>>19868185
>Hololive because they’re the most popular vtubers in the world
Never really heard that one outside of Gura/Mori fans, who are kinda holo antis. Since they're a huge chunk of the population then you're probably right though...

Mumei with a house and bills is a different Mumei. Second stream in a row where she leaves superchats on while reading them.

>>19867446
Nah, I know Toko and Ange, but it's because they are Suisei's acquaintances
I find their voice hot, never watch their stream though

>>19868416
>to do more song covers on her own
You realize they do Covers at a loss, right? All of the girls mention that as a way “to give back to the fans”, leaning on it for growth would be silly

>>19868445
I wonder if it ever bothered nijifans that NijiEN fans treated them as plucky underdogs against the great monolith of Hololive instead of the EN branch of the biggest vtuber corpo in the world. It always bothered me, it felt disrespectful.

>>19868441
>HoloFans are obsessed with Hololive
>NijiFans are obsessed with Hololive
>Niji livers are obsessed with Hololive
>Hololive chubbas are busy with their idol reps
Adding some more

>>19868522
You seem to think that I am not aware of that, so let me assure you that the opposite is the case. I am saying that they should do so anyway because they can afford the investment. It's not as if they somehow lose more money making a song cover than they make on their regular content. You gotta spend money to make money.

>>19868684
Then what fans keep on creating the niji shitpost threads in the catalog?

>200k in 2 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqrwHmo_sGg

This is pretty good for her. I'm not sure where this one will die but at least it's not gonna be bellow 500k after months like most of her covers.

>>19868544
Yeah, it felt kind of silly to see some newly onboarded nijien fans (of the worst kind) saying retarded stuff like
>you should give the small guys your support, Hololive is a monopoly
when Nijisanji wax for the most part of their history bigger than Hololive and, even now, they’re at very least just as big (specialty compared with the rest of the industry)

>>19868684
>>Hololive chubbas are busy with their idol reps
Except myth, they just sit on their asses and hate on idols.

>>19868461
She's been doing that for a while, since the beginning of the year even. In fact, today's stream is actually her second most superchatted stream only surpassed by her monetization stream. Not impressive compared to her peers but it shows improvement on her part

>>19868544
Yeah it is pretty weird how EOP fans act like the livers are a bunch of 2views from Prism. I guess it's because, at least in burgerland, people really want to be the underdog so it makes for a better narrative that way

>>19868751
Compared to most of KawaiiPro and Tsunderia NijiEN is a giant, compared to 95% of indies EN start ups are big. Numbers at the high end rotted people perspective so I can blame them specifically even if it comes off as extremely ignorant.

>>19868778
Great bait, mate

>>19868778
are you just setting yourself up to post the "Gura doing her idol reps" clips to yourself?

>>19868778
t.Fungus

>>19868778
>myth
>hate on idols
>the gen with Kiara
>hate on idols
>the gen with the Miku lover shark girl
>hate on idols
You realize Myth isn’t five Moris, right?

>>19868751
HoloEN being a monopoly is pretty funny to me since they're the complete opposite of NijiEN who try to do everything possible to grow and make more money.
NijiEN keeps trying new things to make themselves go viral while HoloEN just naturally have viral moments.

>>19868909
Watching videos aren't reps.
>>19868946
>ignoring Ina and Ame

>>19868522
But wasn't Azki allowed to released tons of covers when she was still part of the INNK?

>>19868946
Cope. They are all lying manipulative whores. At least Mori has the decency to not pretend. Vox on the other hand is true to his nature of being a manwhore and is being rewarded for his effort.

>>19868522
Nipple man and La+ grew because of their covers.

>>19868946
Even Mori respect idol to some degree, some of her close friend preHolo are Idol themselves.

>>19868778
>Except myth, they just sit on their asses and hate on idols.
Watch stream, especially Gura's latest mengen. Don't know how long it will last, but at least she said she is really excited to be an idol and has been doing idol reps recently

man seeing Ahoge right now is a bit depressing. she was on her way to get 100+ views every time she would sing but got suckered into fucking Apex and is now back to 60~70 viewers.
girl really managed to do a mini Matsuri arc

Remind me how Vox was supposed to be relevant to the discussion about idols?

>>19868999
The "viral" moments just feel a lot more natural with HoloEN and it doesn't hurt that Gura is a long time master at making things go viral. With NijiEN you can tell they are trying to force it, especially based off of their twitter behavior. Forced memes are generally rejected.

>>19868999
I've always felt like HoloEN's humor tends to target millennials while NijiEN goes for the zoomer crowd.

>>19869141
>Gura's latest mengen.
Why the fuck would I do that? I'm not membered and never will be.

>>19869153
Nijisanji are pretty into doing idol related stuff and Vox is part of Nijisanji.

>>19869194
Sucks to be you then. Shark's membership content is amazing.

>>19868901
People really do vastly overestimate how high the bar is to be a "big" streamer. Merryweather averages like 300 viewers and he's considered in the top .2% of Twitch. If you're averaging above 50 you're miles ahead of the majority, and as soon as you hit medium to high triple digits you've basically made it

>>19868798
She switched off SC's, super sticker is still available. Guess she doesn't want the stream to be going on for too long.

>>19869153
ctrl f vox in the last thread and keep in mind that he wasn't streaming at the time, there's an anon extremely invested in shoving him in every single discussion

>>19869275
I have this graph that says as much. Naruse Naru(still last place?) is in the top percentile of streamers in the world be a good margin. Indies know it, VOMs itself got 1k+ applications despite being super midgets in most people's minds.

>>19868999
Niji the corporation seems remarkably bad at marketing themselves in the west overall. Their EN channel shorts generally don't do well and their corpo subreddit is practically a wasteland. It really does feel like a bunch of nips with no idea how to market in the west

Speaking of HoloEN idol reps, does anyone think that NijiEN could be doing idol reps in 2024?

>>19869441
It's also why there are so many small corps and why people keep flocking to them despite not making big numbers. Even if it "only" bumps you up to 40 viewers, that throws you up into the 90th percentile which is miles better than most of them would get solo

>>19869441
>7 million streamers are 1views
I'll save all of them

>>19869461
Then just hire someone who knows how to do it? Cover was the same but thanks to Coco, now they know. Anykara just needs to shell out some money and one will gladly do it.

>>19869153
Vox is the new Kuzuha for Nijisisters. They even call him Milord

>>19869537
Do you really expect a Japanese company to admit they don't know what they're doing?

>>19869477
A lot of people used the "Nijisanji members aren't idols" rrat to compare them to how corporate Hololive is, so it would be hilarious if they start going down the idol route as well

>>19869477
2023 if the bug is kill.
The Niji 3D list is long but they're tackling it again after 70 days of not doing so. I do wonder if they will be on the big stage with everyone else. I see no reason why not beside NijiEN not being in Japland.

>>19869441
>Anya is a mega giant streaming powerhouse

>>19869722
NijiEN is going to have 40+ members by then.
Finana should count herself lucky she was in the first wave, at least people will remember her for that.

>>19869722
If Nijisanji debuts more JP waves, I think foreign vtubers will be bumped down the 3D list more

>>19869717
>start
lql, Nijisanji's main source of revenue is gonna be concerts as time goes on and on. I have never seen any good argument about why their idol troops are not idol troops. Not every Niji liver is an idol but the mere idea that they have none is so ludicrous it puzzles me what people think an idol is.
Anyone who falls for the not idol meme either doesn't know what an idol is or they fell for discord psyops.

>>19869866
Man, Anykara needs to build new studios in NA, EU and even SEA if they want foreign members to have their own 3D at this rate.

>>19855747
I think along with gachikoi she was also building up a bunch of antis
Also Rushia may have menhera'd about her backstage, which might have led to some self reflection.

>>19869871
I'm just assuming that Anycolor is good with the number of people they have now and would just move on the the ENs.

>>19869943
Aren't all the EN members for holo and Niji pretty spread out? Not gonna help unless they plan to build like 20 offices

>>19869943
>Implying they care about their overseas branch

>>19869091
>La+ grew because of their covers.
I’m sure that anon means allowing (and financing) IRyS to do a whole lot more covers than laplus did right now.

>>19869048
>wasn't Azki allowed to released tons of covers when she was still part of the INNK
I’ll make a broad assumption here and say that a company created as a music label employing a virtual diva has a different spending profile than a general vtuber company. It’s not comparable

>>19868704
>I am saying that they should do so anyway because they can afford the investment.
For IRyS alone I’m sure they would but they have 10 other talents in their roster in the branch and how many in the others.
This plus what I replied above about “music label” brings me to another point: I’m not sure what was the plan when debuting IRyS as “Project Hope” mid cycle in the EN branch was supposed to achieve.

She’s a very entertaining streamer, I recall watching her first (four hours long) MC stream and thinking
>DAMN, this EN AZKi girl can hold a crowd, she’s good
And yet she was thrown in the middle of the market without a “box”, a gen to interact and spend the first few weeks and also without a decent budget to do what you say, pump out music be it original or covers, at a loss at the beginning to establish her chops.

She would be better off both on INNK (which got rolled into Hololive anyway) or on EN2.
>also that awful “non anime-like” model of hers

I'm not a fan of this Nui outfit that has zero cleavage.

Somebody mentioned a Tricolor Airline cover with Gura, Mumei, and IRyS. Where was this confirmed? That would be hype as fuck.

>>19870097
Gura just mentioned wanting to do one offhand in yesterday's stream, it wasn't confirmed

>>19870097
Gura was thinking of what cover she wants to do next and who to ask in her last stream.

>>19870097
During the latest Miku stream

>>19863246
bros...
is it time?

>>19870206
You wouldn't

>>19870097
https://youtu.be/jbmUs-eFjrA?t=9745

>>19870206
I doubt the report system works, but if they talked certain words on stream that could be detected by AI. the AI might flag them.

>>19870206
>IT’S TIME!

>>19869461
NijiEN being a success says otherwise anon. I know this here is numbers and all but I never imagined that nijien would get this big. Before debut I didn't even think they would reach 1k. It's a surprise and I think overall it's handled well, even more after the previous attempt. And this all while managed by Noor (yes, the vtuber), pajeets and japanese staff.

>>19869918
They have idols, but that's Aiba. She mogs all holo girls in dancing.

>>19870206
I doubt anything will happen, Niji somehow manages to escape Susan’s bots in that regard.
I just want Hololive summer back.
>>19870263
NijiENs biggest marketing was that everyone knew they were Hololive’s rival so they had good turnout for debuts.

>HolostarsEN, I would like to welcome you to Holostars and the Holostars BOX and introduce you to your seniors that will also be your collab partners.

How do you think they are going to react?
I would really like to see their faces.

>>19870263
>I never imagined that nijien would get this big. Before debut I didn't even think they would reach 1k.
Come on, you surely didn’t underestimate them this much. Even the worst performing HoloID at the time were around high three digits / 1k+, you didn’t seriously think they would underperform Anya.

>>19870263
Even some small corpo tubers have reached 1k at times.

>>19870329
Not much different from Luxiem and
>here are your future collab partners.
>Nina here will be introducing you, she’s a 1k+ streamer, if you work really hard you’ll get to get level in a few weeks

>>19869990
Yes. Iiirc, that's how it is:

Canada: Nina, Selen, Elira, Millie, Enna, Rosemi
US: Pomu, Petra, Finana, Shu
UK: Vox, Mysta
Australia: Luca
Colombia: Reimu
Sweden: Ike
Japan: Yugo
Scotland: Fulgur
No idea about Sonny, Alban and Uki otherwise

>>19870329
If i were a star fan, i would die from happiness

>>19870407
Uki and alban are burgers
Sonny is another aus

>>19870407
Millie and Enna are both SEA

>Mumei found out she was shouting “Money, money” to her Korean viewers during SC readings
Apparently the Chloe method works outside of JP.

>>19870357
I don't think they did? At least I don't remember any case. Not even their debuts reach those numbers.
>>19870334
Nijisanji has a niche fanbase compared to hololive in the west so I was expecting them to grow over time, not to have already 1k-2k on their first months.
>>19870316
Their biggest marketing was having original songs and then pushing the debuts and songs into ads for youtube. Lots of holofags who only watched hololive then began to also watch nijien, and a few even came to other branches.

>>19870410
and then die from exhaustion after you have to juggle 2 jobs at once since streaming in front of 300 people as an EN vtuber is not viable, I guess worth it?

>>19870404
Luxiem didn't need collab partners since they went for the asian pussy, HolostarsEN can't do that

>>19869153
Vox is essentially a male idol, just without singing and dancing and leaning towards the variety side (and by "variety" I meant "coomer baiting" in particular)

>>19870508
Millie originally was, but she's living in canada for years. Enna lives with chinese parents.

>>19870520
moomer is the only en that have a dedicated tw live translator. she could milk them.

>>19870586
There's a meh wage, they'll struggle a bit in the first few months but once they start getting merch they should be able to get by, and don't jump the gun calling them ~300 streamers just yet

>>19870329
If they are a numberfag, they would at least be serious about doing the Vtuber gig and would have done their research before applying. So the majority of males who would apply to Holostars are trendchaser thinking they are getting into HoloLIVE and/or males who want to collab with their HoloEN oshi. It would be a miracle if they can find enough member to form a gen that don't fall into either of those group

>>19870586
>after you have to juggle 2 jobs at once since streaming in front of 300 people
R-Reimu… ;-(

At least she gets a wage (I assume…)

>>19870586
Fucking hell does any of the JPStar has struggle in financial?

>>19869851
She literally is

>>19870299
Let's see here.
What makes Aiba good? Dancing. How should this info be delivered?
>She mogs all holo girls in dancing.
>She is very good at dancing.

Very queer that comparison to hololive is how this info is conveyed.

>>19870732
Why is her number so bad compare to everyone else?

>>19870732
Reimu lives in Colombia, anon
I would assume they won't hire a spic for HolostarEN and most people would be from NA/EU/AU and you can't live as a 3-view there (plus Holostars numbers are 300-500 except Roberu, Reimu actually had an 1K median for February)

>>19870760
this will never not be my favorite running joke

>>19870040
>I’m not sure what was the plan when debuting IRyS as “Project Hope” mid cycle in the EN branch was supposed to achieve.
They looked at Mori getting ten million views on her debut song in like a month and sought to try and replicate that lightning in a bottle.

>>19870823
Because her model debuff is just as bad as IRyS. However, unlike IRyS she isn't an amazing streamer to make up for the model debuff. Reimu is boring as fuck.

>>19870299
Could you shill her again but this time without mentioning any Holo girls?

>>19870756
they are working two jobs, there is rumours about some of them being game developers, etc.

maybe Roberu doesn't have to since he's the only 4-view of the bunch

>>19870299
>Mogs all holo girls in dancing
You realize Aki exists right?

>>19870040
>And yet she was thrown in the middle of the market without a “box”, a gen to interact and spend the first few weeks and also without a decent budget to do what you say
This was the same with Suisei but she still decided to do her one cover a month plan while also streaming relatively frequently. Covers absolutely help with growth, but I also admit that Suisei's design made her very marketable whereas Irys got the shorter end of the stick. One random cover Suisei put on twitter was what got Arte Refact to notice her and make NCP for her. Putting it all on streaming reps just isnt giving Irys all of her options

>>19870823
colombian, /here/, and takes advice from /#/ on how to incline
if you see an anon hyping ES chuubas or proclaiming that the ES market is the future, you know who it is.

>>19870407
>Scotland: Fulgur
Isn't he an Irish guy living in the US?

>>19870477
>alban are burgers
But what about this bit in his debut stream?
https://youtu.be/SFIoMzCIcaE?t=509

Is this just his character setting then?

>>19870854
That doesn’t make any sense, Calli debuted in a proper gen, with an absolute banger as pretty much the first she did on stage (wasn’t the MV for her RIP pretty much her debut OP?) and a commitment to pump out one original per month while at the same time doing gaming streams and interacting heavily with her fen mates, Kiara in particular, and even with JP (like that Korone collab that went viral).
I doubt that’s what’s they were going with for IRyS, I’ll say they were going for “EN AZKi” but she overperformed on the streaming side

>>19870760
Hololive literally lives rent free in nijiniggers heads kek

I wonder what our resident Niji defender will say about NijiID and NijiKR getting low numbers since they seem hellbent on protecting Nijisanji.

>>19870760
It's necessary because holobronies don't watch anyone other than hololive, so we need to compare them to holos for you to understand how good Aiba is at dancing.

>>19870902
Man pizza papa must be buff as hell consider he stream the most out of all HoloPro while working a 2nd job.

>>19867951
Actually it was the Holostars

>>19871089
Please, stop being the “ugly American tourist” version of Nijisanji fandom.

>>19867355
Nah.. this is the best one https://youtu.be/yBykXo4KTjo

>>19870854
Irys just didn't knock it out of the park with her OG song at debut nor her first karaoke stream. There was simply no hype for her as a music focused Holo

>>19870823
>>19870936
she has insane model/design debuff, even bigger than Irys and she is retarded enough to not do buff content

she must have at least one spanish stream a week, maybe even do a classroom style stream where she teaches a new NijiEN a few basic spanish phrases like Kiara has done for german/japanese

she also needs to do karaoke streams more often since that is by far her greatest skill, at least 1 karaoke stream every 2 weeks maybe even once a week

Reimu you fucking retarded latina, I know you are here, just listen to /#/'s advice already

>>19871072
They are now all under "Nijisanji". So you need to compare to Kuzuha and Toya

>>19871140
>muricans are bad reeee
Keep coping chink, you'll never be relevant

>>19871140
That's an insult to American tourists, at least they tip well and contribute to the local economy. This guy is more like Chinese tourists who shit up the place and get uppity when you call them out on it.

>>19871123
Their concert ticket is dirt cheap too consider they sold out and still needed to work 2 jobs for a living after that shit.

>>19870508
You can't be serious, nigger
>>19870634
>Enna lives with chinese parents.
No she doesn't, lol. She lives with her roommate she calls Roomie-chan in Canada. You never watched an Enna stream, have you?

>>19871181
Let me add one thing: if she wants to growth her Latin American wouldn’t the correct course of action be
>interacting with Latin American chuvas
?

>>19871089
>watch and like Suisei
>knows Toko
>"Toko mogs Suisei in singing"
>ends up not watching Toko
This is why you're a failure, Nijishill

>>19871243
>Roomie-chan
robert?

* FINAL TALLY OF YESTERDAY *

>45,347: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,294: Botan (Hololive)
>21,616: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,242: Gura (Hololive)
>16,855: Nene (Hololive)
>16,464: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,184: Noel (Hololive)
>15,491: NijiNigger (Nipplesanji)
>13,530: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,402: Leos (Nipplesanji)
>13,257: Kanae (Nipplesanji)
>12,063: Calli (Hololive)
>11,419: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,030: Fuwa (Nipplesanji

>>19871059
I don't really remember her debut all that well, but I believe Calli's first music she did was Reaper ka Rapper and then the end of the debut was the video for RIP. Then Live Again was like a week later or something.

>>19868049
Her fans are the male equivalent of Voxx chinkfujos, both disgusting and cringe. Also, Unlike voxx she only amuse then some light dirty jokes instead of whoring herself to their thirst. Kroni wants to be seen as a comedian, not a money grubbing whore like voxx

>>19869461
Just gonna post the top 10 non-official post content in the past week from both subs -
Holo
> Nightmode Fauna (low effort meme)
> pic about Nun costume trend (low effort)
> Kronii sign meme (low effort)
> Towa ass (low effort)
> pic about La+ new streaming setup (low effort)
> pic about La+ liking Ass (Earth) (low effort meme)
> Lion news + Botan pic (low effort meme)
> Kronii/Fauna (low effort meme)
> Korone fan animation (high effort)
> Calli yeet meme fanart (high effort)

High/Low/0 effort ratio : 2/8/0

Niji
> Elira-Fungus twitter interaction screenshot (0 effort)
> Goth Petra fanart (high effort)
> Millie's tweet screenshot (0 effort)
> Hayase Sou 3D clip (low effort)
> Hana macchia tweet screenshot (about her drawing her own porn) (0 effort)
> Pomu 250k congrats (0 effort)
> Pomu/Finana fan comic (high effort)
> Luca tweet screenshot (0 effort)
> Selen pic collection (low effort)
> Finana lewd meme (low effort)

High/Low/0 effort ratio : 2/3/5

Niji sub seems to be mostly serving as a second twitter for them (with some occasional high effort stuff), while holos mostly have low effort meme content + some occasional high effort stuff.

>>19871204
>>19871205
“Ugly American” is an expression from another era, when it was the American middle class having enough disposable to travel abroad without a hint of understanding of proper behavior outside their communities
Now it should be revised to “ugly chinese” for the exact behavior you mention

>>19871273
>holobronies are that insecure that they'll not watch another streamer just because they feel offended by a simple comparison
Not a good look

>>19870760
I mean, I only said it like this because that's how you all refer to nijisanji and even other hololive girls. I'm only doing the same.

>>19871253
Didn't they do that with the Wactor spics? They can do more of that.

Actually, aren't most of the Spics watching on Twitch and Facebook? I wonder if they can convert those to YouTube watchers...

>>19871123
Fucking Astel's having time to be cracked as hell in Apex while fulfilling his second job as a Disney princess.

>>19871253
collabs like that can be part of her once-a-week spanish stream
>zatsudan in spanish
>Nijisanji EN spanish lessons
>collab with a spic vtuber

she can alternate between these 3 types of streams
maybe even a spanish karaoke? but I don't know about the permisions about these

>>19871377
>NijiEN sucks ass please watch Gura she's far more entertaining and talented than the entirety of NijiEN combined
That's how you sound like, not a good look.

>>19870888
Sure, I can. I didn't think this would get this reaction considering how that same language is used all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJWi2CPD9QZSYANDGmD-bckoyl50UKfpL

why

>>19871372
Like I said, people wish Chinese tourists are as good as ugly Americans. I could honestly compare Chinese tourists to a plague of locusts and the only difference would be that locusts don't leave piles of shit all over the place after they leave

>>19871253
Nimu and Lunaria collab

In actual numbers news, Gura's Project Diva VODs have shot past 400k and is closing in on doubling both Pekora and Botan's VODs for their respective streams, while the likes count is triple that of theirs.

>>19871046
Yes Irish, I'm a retard. I always get those countries wrong
>>19871072
depends anon. how will they take things in the future? will they try to collab with jp and en? because that's to me the clear path to get more subs and viewers. Mika, Nari, Hada, Seffyna and others increased their subs and views with new fans with that, with nari being the biggest example: from 200-300 viewers to 1k-2k streamer

>>19871123
>>19871239
>>19871423
>>19870902
Damm the Star are failure, i wonder why Cover fanatical department even bother to give them a new Gen and concert.

>>19871089
No, that post was just saying hololive bad Aiba good. Not even saying who she is better than or why.

>>19871607
She's better than all of them. Your fault if you can't read simple English.

>>19871491
Anon, please try again. Your post is pretty much
>educate yourself, shitlord
tier of pointing out to the body of work of the subject you’re trying to prove and telling the prospective audience to “go fish”.

If I were to shill Aki as a good dancer, for instance, I would pick some 2 or 3 clips of her dancing and link you. The algo would likely do the rest.

Same with Suisei and singing (or Tetris), same with Aqua and gaming and I assume that’s how most holo fans shill their holos
> here watch this clip, this clip and this too
> and if you liked it there this other holo she interacts, here is this clip and this clip

No wonder a “rabbit hole” of clips and streams and streamers formed on YT algo

>>19871377
So how much this dance aiba do contribute on her idol act? How much album she produced? Concerts? Sales? How much money toko made on her album? Solo concert? Orisongs? NUMBERSSS?????

Wait, that one Nijishill on the last thread is still going?

>>19871072
I actually genuinely think that KR will incline a lot with this merger if they collab with JP. Most of them already speak japanese on youtube anyway. ID won't have as much advantage but im in the opinion that KR/ID thing makes people not even give a chance, so with just "nijisanji" it might give more subs than they normally get. With ID ofc, their best path is to collab with EN and speak more english. And ofc, being more active in some cases. This could be a good new beginning and reinvention for all.

Does he not realize that if you shit on your customer he's trying to sell his product first while shilling it it wouldn't work?

>>19871661
Told ya, ask a hololive fan to sell you on hololive they'll start by sending you a few clips to whet your teeth on.
Ask a nijifag and he'll start by telling you how much better they are than hololive

>>19871587
damn they abandoned the KR market

>>19871699
>gets told she is better at dancing than any holo
>deflects to irrelevant shit like albums and concerts
Lmao

>>19871661
But.. I just linked to you a playlist of 8 clips with her dancing anon...

>>19871731
The fact that he's shilling in # out of all places is funnier desu

>>19871586
Anyone got the number for this cuz i remember the star got some hell of a female Gachi that mass bought all their merch.?

>>19871796
I'm not the other anon or shilling anyone, just talking about nijisanji in here.

>>19871705
People keep accusing holofags of being corporate drones but if they post leak era has proven anything is that they don't hold a candle to nijifags

>>19871774
That’s the equivalent of linking to a 10000 report words broad article on some subject and saying
>that’s the proof for the 5 words assertion I just made
>educate yourself, shitlord

I don’t think you’re really interested in getting people to watch her dance, otherwise you would pick the *one* clip you like the most and post in a comment so it would embed and max the chance people would see

>>19871830
isn't that true though? connor was right and we all know it. you could even say niji has this as well but in smaller scale.

Is something actually trying to shill their chuuba by shitting on chuubas that other people like? Is this really the state of /#/?

I'll assume this is a falseflag because I don't want to think that fans of their particular chuuba would be so dumb as to reflect on their oshi negatively in the eyes of a potential audience.

>>19871768
HoloKR will fail to and the vtuber group that draped themselves in Hololive dominate the market. HoloKR will be ID tier at best.

Well, if Nijisanji fans want the company to incline to a bigger global audience, they must need to beat Hololive's clip ecosystem.

With one Niji clip coming out each hour, Hololive already has like 10 clips and 20 ones in waiting. That's hard for any Niji fans if they want to recommend clips.

So stop shilling and start clipping.

>>19871491
This girl looks generic. I'm not going to start watching this random.

>>19871769
>said she is better
>no metric to prove
>so metric comparisson
>n-numbers are i-irrelevant

>>19871768
INE No 1 AHHHHHH

Hello mandatory Gura post.
Gura Miku VOD : 415k still inclining.
Pekora sekiro VOD : 284k
Botan Elden ring VOD : 266k

Great VOD power for Shark but it’s normal it was outside her timeslot so a lot of tourist (even in her subs) that don’t normally watch her. Her normal audience catch up the VOD later.

I’m not that surprised that Pekora is above Botan. Bigger subs so bigger VOD power.

>>19871731
dude reminded me of that guy Nagzz who does a "discover" series for holos
I wonder if he's ever gonna do one for Nijis after finishing the holo ones.

>>19871872
What part? That the company that build an audience of hundreds of thousands can hype and showcase a new product in front of a hundred of thousand potential customers.

That’s a weird way to sound smart, is the equivalent of saying
>any product Kadokawa invests and advertises has a guaranteed baseline of exposure and potential success, unlike a doujin circle in a bookstore in a street corner in Tokyo

It may sound smart in the head of the people saying it but it’s not that smart.

>>19872032
Pretty sure Nagzz is being paid by Anykara to shill Niji clips

>>19871908
If nijiniggers were smart they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>19872032
Anykara will need to pay him to do that

can someone put that schizochart. Just to show what kind of subhuman seaniggers are

>>19871796
Reminds me of the chink who tried to shill bilibili stocks in /jp/ back in early 2021

>>19871908
>Is something actually trying to shill their chuuba by shitting on chuubas that other people like? Is this really the state of /#/?
Yes and they are called NiSEAniggers, those subhuman

>>19871986
I watched the first video on >>19871491, she seems alright. Can at least keep a choreography, so she at least has the dancing bit covered.

Her model doesn't fit her singing voice. That's kinda jarring, but I won't knock her points for that given the industry that this is.

So the typical Star doom poster just ignored all the sponsorship they've had and treat them like homeless Hobo while all of them are making significant more than your average Japan citizen?

>>19872087
...really? I often get his discover thing on my timeline but I've never seen him with Nijis yet

>>19872014
VOD gosling, you're a bit obsessed with common knowledge, you need to medicate a bit and not let the retards in this thread get to you.

>>19872185
NiSEAnigger cant read with all those high copium intact they inhaled

>>19872175
I'm fine with most models with a voice like that as long as they're cute.

>>19871868
I linked all of those because I didn't rewatch all of them, I just remember shes very good. but here you go then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkQsDUAm3Uw
https://youtu.be/c7bNUCxo_r0?list=PLJWi2CPD9QZSYANDGmD-bckoyl50UKfpL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4ZIN4yak8&list=PLJWi2CPD9QZSYANDGmD-bckoyl50UKfpL&index=2

>>19870040
>She would be better off both on INNK (which got rolled into Hololive anyway) or on EN2.
Irys should be officially transferred to gen 0 like every other one-off Cover made or adopted. She’s already friends with Sora and might benefit being in the same gen as Suisei and Azki

It's not like I have a lot of time to watch ten streams per day, so I only stick to my favs...

>>19867446
Lulu...

>>19871986
>>19872175
Well she don't stream much or at all since she got 3D so this isn't even me shilling her, just showing an example of an idol in nijisanji. These days she mostly releases MV covers of her dancing in 3D or participate in concerts/3D

>>19870756
Not anymore as far as I know. They all inclined enough that they could all live comfortably on streaming money but not as much as the girls, naturally. And yeah, it doesn’t 1k+ to be profitable. Aruran was basically homeless before YAGOO picked him up and he roomed with other Stars to lower living costs. He was so happy to afford a vacation last year.

Sonny at 5k with goose game. He picked a time that no one in nijien streams and this has been good for him. SEA and even NA can watch him like that so he's getting a lot.

> Hologra has subtitles in English, Japanese, Indonesian and Spanish
why no Korean subs?

>>19871123
Only Roberu, Astel, and Aruran do full-time Holostars, if even Aruran, a 300-600 view can do it full time, they’re doing fine

>>19872778
Koreans don't like hololive.

>>19872972
They are falling head over heels with Luxiem and Noctyx right now.

>>19872966
Hard to say they're doing fine when most other hololivers are borderline millionaires.

>>19872778
>English and Spanish are among the most commonly spoken languages in the world
>Hololive has an ID branch
Korean translators harder to find and more expensive as a result.

Unless Gura decides to do another JP primetime stream I don't see Luxiem having any issue beating Ina's 9.5k.

>>19873045
Luxiem already did.

>>19869141
>she said she is really excited to be an idol and has been doing idol reps recently
Shit, even if I don't watch any ENs I wanna see this. I wonder if it's going to cause an aneurysm in the anti-idol EOP fags on reddit/twitter and in the youtube comments.

>>19873045
anon..

>>19871816
Concert Estimates
HOLOSTARS 1st ACT
Sold out venue
8,000 Yen per local ticket * (2000 (venue capacity(https://hachioji-mice.org/en/venues/hall/8eb234e0c368895fd29610195e5dfb41f5b324d7.html)))) * (.5 Covid Measures))
8,000,000 Yen total
+ Unknown number of of streaming tickets @ 4,800 yes and unknown sales for concert merch

Holoshop sales:
HOLOSTARS White Day 2022
”Thanks bouquet” Set Hanasaki Miyabi 131 $31.00 $4,061.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kanade Izuru 178 $31.00 $5,518.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Arurandeisu 63 $31.00 $1,953.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Rikka 94 $31.00 $2,914.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Astel Leda 202 $31.00 $6,262.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kishido Temma 131 $31.00 $4,061.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Yukoku Roberu 185 $31.00 $5,735.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kageyama Shien 182 $31.00 $5,642.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Aragami Oga 145 $31.00 $4,495.00
Long Button Badge (Random) 3234 $5.00 $16,170.00
$56,811.00

Hanasaki Miyabi Birthday Celebration 2022
Birthday Merch Complete Set 179 $65.00 $11,635.00
Birthday Acrylic Panel 34 $25.00 $850.00
Birthday Mug 25 $25.00 $625.00
Birthday Acrylic Photo Card 16 $13.00 $208.00
Voice Drama “Another day’s birthday” 40 $5.00 $200.00
$13,518.00

Kanade Izuru New Outfit Reveal 2022
New Outfit Acrylic Stand 203 $17.00 $3,451.00 $3,451.00

Kageyama Shien Birthday Celebration 2022
Birthday Merch Complete Set 283 $89.00 $25,187.00
Birthday 2022 Acrylic Panel 41 $21.00 $861.00
Birthday 2022 Button Badge 278 $5.00 $1,390.00
Summer Outfit Good Luck Charm & Bracelet 34 $37.00 $1,258.00
Nekoyama Plushie 176 $21.00 $3,696.00
Situation Voice “The one I want to protect.” 47 $9.00 $423.00
$32,815.00

Hanakishi 100k Subscribers Celebration
100k Subscribers Celebration Merch Complete Set 343 $57.00 $19,551.00
Acrylic Diorama Stand (Red Riding Hood Hanasaki Miyabi) 91 $21.00 $1,911.00
Acrylic Diorama Stand (Kishido Temma in Wonderland) 87 $21.00 $1,827.00
Foldable Handheld Mirror (Red Riding Hood Hanasaki Miyabi) 26 $9.00 $234.00
Foldable Handheld Mirror (Kishido Temma in Wonderland) 31 $9.00 $279.00
$23,802.00

Astel Leda New Outfit Reveal 2022
Conductor Outfit Acrylic Stand 256 $13.00 $3,328.00
STARLight Button Badge 307 $13.00 $3,991.00
Wandering Jellyfish Book Wallet 240 $41.00 $9,840.00
$17,159.00

Kageyama Shien New Outfit Celebration 2022
Sporty Shien Acrylic Stand 559 $13.00 $7,267.00
Sporty Shien Pin Badge 812 $5.00 $4,060.00
$11,327.00

Arurandeisu New Outfit Celebration 2022
Celebration Merch Complete Set 307 $41.00 $12,587.00
Acrylic Stand 29 $17.00 $493.00
Matching Metallic Key Chain 63 $15.00 $945.00
Pizza-kun Connected Acrylic Charm 100 $10.00 $1,000.00
$15,025.00

Which faggot started the EN gold meme again? Was it a Holofag or a Nijifag

>>19872972
>>19872997
Nijiniggers and delusions name a more iconic duo

>>19873017
What kind of logic is this? Me is not doing fine with doctor and lawyer salaries cuz people like Zucc exist?

>>19873209
Stars is still relevant

>>19873222
Voxfag cumtard

>>19873222
Holofag.
People were meme-ing that Gura wasn't really the most popular Vtuber since she never places consistently. Hence they made EN Gold to their own award where Gura can win.
Which is ironic since Luxiem is now mogging the shit out of Gura and Holos

>>19873272
>Relevant when they are mogged hard by Vox

>>19873272
no

star en will guarantee success if they're able to find a male english speaking version of Fubuki

>>19873064
>>19873132
?

>>19873017
Tf is this logic

>>19873327
This is true Luxiemsisters! Cumtard seething now

>>19873017
That's just it, really. They have to gain a wider audience for them to make the millions, but they are by no means dying at their current level if they treat it as a part time gig or stream more often to make ends meet. This is the same in Hollywood, where there are different celebrity tiers that range from part time gigs as an extra to full blown superstars that need up to nine figures to get them to give you their time of day. This is just a microcosm of that. Not everyone can be gorillionaires.

Hololive is popular outside of Japan, so that might help them get a discoverability boost at home if the StarsEN make it and they start collaborating.

>>19873327
stop trying to re-write shit. it was a shitpost that retards took seriously

>>19872323
Thanks!

>>19873327
Yass Sister

>>19873344
>Mysta 8k + Ike 7k
> 15k
> 15k > 9.5k
Unless you're a faggot who can't do basic math then I'm sorry you're a retard who got dropped in the head as a child.

>>19873344
>3.8m subs
>Sub 10k stream
Cumkek BTFOed

>>19873379
No they're not, I would argue that NijiEN is more globally popular now, with Vshojo a close 2nd. HoloEN is a very distant 3rd

>>19873433
That stream's peak is more than 16k anon ..

>>19871292
9PM JST is open. Who's the golden girl?

>>19873327
Fist mention of EN Gold was defending NijiEN
>>/vt/thread/S14356788#p14365087

>>19873493
Nijicope anon, is this part of the list?

>>19873222
Some faggot that was being a faggot and shitposted like a fag and other fags started spamming that shit until it became commonplace. Bunch of faggots...

BTLS stream on Lui's today, probabaly 1 pov. Gold?

>>19873509
Doesn't make it any better cumkek. Vox got 20k streaming a random zatsudan at midnight

>>19873529
That's a literal bait post, anon. Don't reply to it.

>>19873514
https://youtu.be/DIr4b-kMogk

>>19873364
>most streamers in the company are rich as fuck
>except these ones over here
Disparity.

>>19871566
The numbers are not interesting when there's no other contenders.

>>19866858
she got too big and only had cloutchasers. Her best bet is probably trying to get in Kson's circle

>>19865230
She needs to do a karaoke to generate interest. Or anything slightly creative that isn't just "I play a game for 3 hours". Or even play fucking Minecraft.

>>19873556
It's a fucking ASMR endurance, Voxfag. And she still gets the EN gold yetsterday despite streaming no notice beforehand and not on her usual timeslot

>>19873520
i knew it was a shitpost but of course it was for nijiEN

VSPO EN when? Or 774 EN? Why only hololive and Nijisanji have en branches?

>>19872357
Nothing wrong with that. I only have a few hours a day to watch/listen to vtubers, so I prefer someone who's entertaining and not streaming too much so I can keep up with the storyline.

>>19865408
Would be nice if she could start to do some collab songs. Something with Mori or Kiara or one of the JPs. Even the IDs would be fun even if it didn't really help her much.

>>19868049
same thing with Mysta, they still had a shred of dignity left to stop them from going full whore.

>>19873520
>>19873764
Yeah but the guy doing EN Gold now is clearly a Holofag. He puts a Chinese flag up whenever Niji wins for example, lol.

>>19872778
Are korean subs common these days?
Hasn't webtoon replaced manga years ago?

>>19873550
Not sure how it'll go, the members are good but the game is new and unknown. Should be 25-30k at least?

>>19866840
It doesn't really matter as there aren't any significant EN indie vtubers on youtube. Only Holos, Nijis, Japanese, and a handful of small corpos. I'm sure when Lumi and that other Cyberlive girl go indie they'll just stream on twitch like everyone else.

>Chama SC is still close
What is she trying to prove here?

>>19873866
ok, and? the anon was asking how it started

>>19869032
Ame and Ina has been working on their singing though.

>>19867043
If she could somehow swing a gig designing a Holo she'd be allowed in the door, but it would be a hard sell. Have they ever had a design by a non-Asian artist?

>>19873520
>>19873866
Heh, just like the Nijicope list.
Nijiniggers are truly sub-humans that they get documented like animals.

>>19873944
SC is just spare change ?

>>19868371
That's a crappy consolation prize.

>>19872363
You know I wonder why Lulu got into holofag consciousness but not Lize. Lize is holo-lite too but I guess she wasnt as clippable? I honestly never knew they were a duo until near the end of Lulu’s career

Now that numberbros have been mindbroken by vox do we take over the numbers thread or what?

>>19870040
>I’m not sure what was the plan when debuting IRyS as “Project Hope” mid cycle in the EN branch was supposed to achieve
But wasn't she marketed as a VSinger? I mean sure INNK is treated like a separate entity from Hololive but with the VSinger label it should have been more logical for IRyS to have more covers than what she currently has
I think IRyS situation is almost similar to Suisei situation back then
Both were supposed to be a music focused Holo but somehow ended up not so different from the general Holos
Maybe IRyS should do a Suisei and foot her own bill, which I think she had the capital to do it

>>19874181
Lize is probably one of the more well-known Niji females. But she doesn't have a meme like Lulu did.

>>19874240
Do you have Vox membership?

>>19874275
I don't have ANY memberships.

>>19874181
Lulu, HSKW, and Mito are board culture. leftover of the early days in /jp/.

>>19874181
Lize panders to chinkies a lot.
The current iteration of Hololive now is devoid of chink elements.

>>19873774
Because they're the only ones that can afford to have them. Here's your (You), so GFTO.

>>19873774
Does VSPO have enough publicity to open en branch? I know their talents got great numbers but I'm not sure if EOP will watch the EN girls.

>>19874306
Your takes carry no weight if you won't commit to them.
Go buy his membership at least.

>>19874432
That's like a days wages for me.

Abandoning chinks is the worst thing Hololive has done.
Look at Nijisanji now, thriving with everyone in every market.

>>19874487
Except Korea, Indonesia, Japan, and North America. and India

>>19874473
Spend less time on /vt/ then. It's not gonna improve your income.

>>19874529
Except for India, everywhere else you said is wrong.

>>19874384
Just get a hafu who can game first. Have her collab with the EN audience like rpr, Selen, Ollie, etc.

>>19874609
Do you have the data for Korea? Their viewership seems to be non-existent.

>>19874609
Anon, unless they're planning on continuing their debut of chuubas that live in SEA and Korea from their main branch, those are all failed projects.

>>19874181
Lulu is part of baby's first Vtuber like most Holos are.
Lize I'd say really isn't because of the lack of memes about her.

>>19874609
>Korea and Indonesia's branch folded. A bunch of NijiID members together barely added up to one Anya earlier
How is he wrong?

>>19872032
He said he wanted to do nijisanji and vshoujo sometime in the future. The problem is his co-host only watches Hololive.

>>19875036
Co-host is Koe? Pretty sure Koe has watched some Nijisanji - he just prefers Hololive

>>19874181
Lulu was one of the most easy to digest and meme vtubers for EOPs during the boom. That's really it.

>>19874529
>>19874609
where's this take coming from, sure I'm Indian and I've gotten some of my friends into chuubas, but idk if there's any sizeable holo fanbase in my country (especially when merch shipping n stuff is so expensive).

>>19874529
How are them not thriving in Japan?

>>19875188
Nothing but a fan is his co-host. Koe was just a guess for a few episodes

>>19874181
lize most popular content is poke and DQ which filters the fuck out of eops since it is boring for them.

>>19875188
some niggas were spreading rrats that he didn't like Nijisanji as much, but he just seemed neutral desu.
And ofc I don't think any niji has yet managed to make him lose in one of his ylyl challenges.

>>19875228
It's a joke about the short-lived Nijisanji ID branch.

>>19875259
Them is stable on Japan.

>>19875267
Koe seemed over the moon with HoloX and Council but seemed like he hated being there for Ethyria.

Pekora you stupid fucking rabbit you better not stream sekiro tonight. Give your audience time to catch up to the vods of that series so your ccv won't be fucking garbage.

>>19873379
>Collab this, collab that
How about they hire strong solo individuals who don't need any collab. Thoae who have Aqua/Pekora/Korone ability.

>>19875262
People watch Pekora play those.
I think it's more of a Lize problem than anything.

>>19875267
I was the first person that talked about Koe's mid reaction to the nijigirls debut. I never seen anybody say he disliked them or anything until today.

>>19875330
He was super excited for council, but waited a until all of HoloX debut to watch the debut

>>19875497
Peko has a lot of variety
lize dont.

https://youtu.be/5pLytroOJDE
Seffyna streaming untill 40k

Next Thread >>19864746

>>19875425
>Pekora
>Korone
Anon...

>>19875571
Who are the top five nijiKRs subs-wise?

>>19875655
Ban Hada (49.5k) is the strongest.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCStzBFfjwFYb0qSYHnzFZvw/channels

Check out the list yourself.

Fungus Covid

In a piece of more impressive number news, these two Gura fan-animations achieved 1M views after 9 days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mfhG5GMsIo&t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5toEgivcpA&t=54s

Also, Gura finally crossed 3.85M subs. Only a few more months before she reaches 4M subs.

>>19876183
Gura could accelerate it if she stream on JP time.

>>19875330
I just watched it, it's fucking hilarious to see the contrast between how he normally reacts to holo stuff and Ethyria.
> Nina : cringes at 'honeys', "too much honey", "not a huge fan of the honey every 2 seconds"
> Enna : cringing at the sudden "my period" kek
> Reimu and Millie : neutral
> Collab : visibly trying not to cringe at the sudden "mommy" dynamic and Internet Explorer jokes.
Looking at Ethyria debut again though, I'm surprised at just how much they emphasised their "multilingual"ness compared to other gens. I wonder if that had a hand in how much audience they got.

Any gold contender

>>19876830
peko totsu

>>19876830
Peko clubhouse totsu

>>19874181
Lulu got popular on this site because Nijimeido used to banning her, which made her even more popular. Stellar logic I know.

>>19871566
that's just gura's global power kicking in, right? this much later it's not a very strong indicator of the EN cull