/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>45,347: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,294: Botan (Hololive)
>21,616: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,242: Gura (Hololive)
>16,855: Nene (Hololive)
>16,464: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,184: Noel (Hololive)
>15,491: Luca (Nijisanji)
>13,530: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,402: Leos (Nijisanji)
>13,257: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,063: Calli (Hololive)
>11,419: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,030: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

>>19842666
latest rrat

>Sana come back next week
>Mumei comeback tonight
>Rrat comeback tonight
>Kronii preparing for her bday
>Fauna schedule up
>Gura streamed JP prime time
>Ina back to her usual timeslot
>Mori spamming Elden
>Ame back to her usual timeslot
>Kiara is Kiara
>Irys is Irys
Thank you, Fulgbro!

>>19848720
Why do you think the girls took that trip that ended up in an off collab? There is a new studio in NA

>>19848986
Something e dB more amazing happened
>Haachama posted a schedule
Not directly related to EN but a sign of something changing

>>19849101
>e Db
even

>>19848986
>it feels like an all out war
>holos: UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!

VTUBER NUMBER STATUS

> [] GIANT
> [] REGULAR PEOPLE
> [x] MIDGETS

>>19850325
You can't bet on a wild card, anon. It will probably be Pekora who becomes the fourth vtuber to ever get 2 million subs
What even happened to korone? She had surpassed FBK at one point. Honestly looks like Hololive English hit her the hardest, she was THE EOP darling before them

>>19845764
Luxiem mogs holox.

>>19848986
Failgur...

>>19849654
I dread the day we hit mainstream. Hopefully we stay midgets.

>>19850468
Marine was originally on her way to catch up with Peko but her throat fucked up real bad and the gap widened.

>>19850468
doog does whatever the fuck she wants and doesn't really pander

>>19850468
Nah, Korone took a break when Fubuki was fishing for the golden Magikarp, and while at that time Foobs passed her.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>17,364: Gura (Hololive)
>15,483: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,150: Mori (Hololive)
>9,806: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>9,683: Kronii (Hololive)
>9,091: Ike (Nijisanji)
>8,299: Fauna (Hololive)
>7,488: Amelia (Hololive)
>5,043: Alban (Nijisanji)

>>19850484
Lui...

/#/ is declining.

>>19850693
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 21,483 (400k Endurance + Celebration)
7. IRyS (Hololive) - 20,211 (Birthday party and Totsu)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 17,364 (Project Diva Mega Mix)

Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0

>>19850761
midget numbers jesus

thread started great!

>>19848986
>we got shit talked by a 2 view?
>awaken the council

>>19848986
General George S. Pomu wanted war? Well, she is getting war.

holokeks & nijienshart btfo
https://twitter.com/ayanof0308/status/1501349085076361217

>>19850484
Don't ever post in this thread again

>>19850484
>Lui-nee numbers from playboard
Where did you get your numbers?

>>19849030
Probably Canada.
Kiara said she wasn't going to America or Japan and today Ina said that the traveling was for Holofes.

>>19849203
No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, Hololive English, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory.

She never puts up top tier numbers but I'm amazed at how consistent Fauna's viewership is. She teases the yandere thing every once in a while but with how dedicated her fanbase is I feel that if she went full Rushia tier with it should could incline hard.

>>19851085
Typical nijiniggers making numbers the fuck up

>>19850693
I think Gura and Luca should fuck

I'm sorry, is this some NijiJP nobody mogging the entirety of NijiEN in an NA timeslot?

>>19851223
UOOOOH!

>>19851223
Fulgur curse

>>19851085
Looks like it's per stream and his numbers for Lui include a cover premiere and multiple mengen streams which is just.... lmao.

>>19849654
I've seen a Minecraft autist who got higher numbers than that

>>19851223
Hayama is based don't call her a nobody fag

>>19851216
nah, Mysta and Gura should, depressed fucking is the best

>>19848986
in reality, it's probably because everyone finally finished all the fes 3 prep and recordings.

>>19848986
Shit what is happening bros? I'm scared

>>19851121
Better have a time stamp for this, there were too many people relying on their flakey memory for evidence. Anyone can provide what Moona slipped for setting up a studio?

>>19851107
if Kronii pull out Minecraft nuke after her bday, then you know shits got personal

>>19851420
ummm, anon. you need your reps. Myth is traveling for holofes >>19842666

>>19848986
So Fulgur is actually the dark knight of Hololive huh...

Still Still Stellar sold 364 Physical Albums.
Kuzuha album sales should be showing up next week.

>>19851325
koyori's numbers are also just fucking wrong and also include a mengen
those pie charts might as well be fucking useless

>>19851530
was awake when the rrats were bred. travel/quarantine are all part of prep.

>>19850645
Yeah, Marine legitimately would’ve been at 2M right now or very close to it if health didn’t fuck her. She was averaging like 2x the subs Peko was getting and did not look like she was letting up. Health just destroyed her, which is saying a lot for how big she still is

>>19851626
How many albumz Still Still Stellar sold the first week?

>>19850484
Label your charts properly, you cunt. Where did you get those data?

Nimu 18k on Twitch

>>19851927
Hanging reveal ah ah ah ah ah

>>19851927
>twitch

>>19851927
What kind of peaks do vshojos get for events?

>>19851223
Hayama is a better chuuba than the entirety of nijiEN bitch

>>19852056
Irommouse Vei and Nyanners get about 20k+

>>19851927
Is she still using that ugly ass artgun 3d model?

>Ame doing superchat reading
Kek. Fulgur you dumbass

>>19852120
Pffftt get milord number and we talking shart

>>19851696
That anon's charts have always been useless right from the fundamental idea, let alone the stupidity of method.

>>19851906
16,117
Suisei's biggest strength has been sales consistency. Pmaru-sama's album fell off the charts a month or so ago while Suisei is still going strong.

24k now
https://www.twitch.tv/nimuvt

>>19851921
Playboard, you can check the data yourself cunt.

>>19852239
Do you even understand english or do you just append shart to reply to every post you want to annoy?

>>19852325
I'm not sure who they're trying to insult with shart anymore, I thought at first it was supposed to be chumbuds because of the "shark" connection

>>19851223
Luxiem would eat her alive.

>>19851223
Noctyx flopped already...
He's getting worse numbers than Selen.

Today's superchats, Leos' birthday is the 2nd highest stream of this year and the 15th highest ever.

>>19852387
why did this shitpost start and can it stop please, i swear it's making the thread like 3 times worse

>>19852387
In this timeslot? No?

Nimu at 26k

>>19851927
Can we have the original model back

>>19852532
do all indie 3D avatars use that same mouth? it always looks like shit

>>19852532
ES gold ...?

>>19852449
Still better than all the females, but they aren't showing impressive numbers. Does make me wonder who the leader of the wave will be once everyone is settled, I have a feeling Yugo is going to end up on top

>>19852497
>shitpost
It's the truth, check their numbers.

>>19852554
I miss the OG, bros

...

>>19852489
March superchats so far
>Leos - $64,930
>Nene - $64,372
>Vox - $63,389
>Miko - $59,288
>Akina - $45,753
>Chloe - $34,821
>Laplus - $32,559

>>19852603
>Vox is below Ame
The fuck? I may be overestimating this guy if the debuff detetive still mogs him

>>19852742
Artgun is a hack.

>>19852384
It's like a bot, got the desired annoyance response a few times to calling people shart so now they just call everyone they don't like that even though it doesn't make any sense.

>>19852603
>CCV is relevant

>>19852742
SPIC TWITCH GOLD

>>19852603
February -> March median
>Vox 8,364 -> 11,109
>Mysta 8,977 -> 9,806
>Luca 5,644 -> 9,604
they keep winning

I miss Aki and her lil' inclining numbers already, dammit!

>>19852751
>has birthday
>barely keeping ahead of Vox just doing what he does
kek

>>19852774
see >>19852876

>>19852908
Your fucking 8 day median is a joke, get a grip anon

>>19852876

ike and shu could be at this level too but they are dumb and stream on NA time

>>19852895
I too got less money out of my birthday than the local hooker

>>19852895
>doing what he does
>prostitution

>>19848986
>makes fun of council once

>>19852895
Miko also got 500k USD from her merch. That's twice of Vox's total SC, both without cuts. But let's not talk about merch, nijis cant give /#/ on merch kek

>>19852895
Nene only has three streams this month please understand

>>19852742
>>19852655
I just remember this.
https://youtu.be/G7x16BVPJtI?t=343
But she always was one of the biggest females. I think ZilverK is the biggest male vtuber on that side of the globe.

>>19852742
Ah fuck she's still using this Gun guy art, I'll never understand how some girls find this shit actually good the extra animations really work as brainwashing, even vshojo dropped this shit and never used again

>>19852742
is the same shit

>>19852742
>the one before was better
>100bits-for that you better stay as the one before
>is ugly xd
kek

>>19853481
Jeez, ES has no chill.

>nijifemales worms collab
>5k combined
>still inclining
>selen might beat ame SC reading
i kneel dragoons

So all of Edengumi have had birthdays now and.... yeah. Jeez I feel kind of bad even posting this, it hurts to look at

>>19853587
>brought Shu so that it won't be complete failure
>still gets mogged by Fauna
You shouldn't have done this Fungus

>>19852751
neneti?! i thought the tracing thing supposed to stop this madlass

>>19853672
>113
nipplechama...

Nui's thumbnail for her first Vampire Survivors stream has in bigass font "神ゲー" which just makes me laugh.

>>19853672
Female Nijis.....

>>19853747
number faggot?

>>19853747
Pekora called it that as well.

>>19853587

>5k combined

the absolute state

>>19853860
Half of that are probably from Shufags

>>19853587
>might beat ame SC reading
>might
oooof

>>19853860

>>19851223
Don't talk about Hayama like that.

>>19853979
Man Noctyx scares me. Seeing how they're streaming in NA, have debut buff, and are part of manjisanji but are barely pulling 2-4k, I shiver at how bad HoloStarsEN will do.

>>19853979
>12k holoen
>21k nijien

>>19852449
Noctyx much like Luxiem need to stream in the morning if they want similar numbers. You'll never see them inclining in numbers if all of them but Yugo don't stream for Asia. Otherwise it's going to be that, about 2k in NA time.

>>19853979
I believe HoloEN has Worm collab. What's the number of that collab?

>>19853587
oh nonono look out for that superchat reading females

>>19853979
Elu...

>>19854080
>Daring to claim Kuzuha as NijiEN
Fuck off, he isn't yours.

>>19854080
actually it's 25k for nijien, gotta account for the cull

>>19853672
Imagine aplying for mensaji as a girl.

>>19850484
Anon, despite having only 15-20 days ahead in monetization, HoloX beats the living shit out of Luxiem in terms of SC.

>>19854103
26k

>>19853750
Show me Tomoe birthday SC, "female nijis" anon
>>19852988
Ike, Vox and Mysta are the ones who stream in the morning. all of them are european so it's easy to them either way.

>>19854103
26k in Kiara's channel

>>19854103
Nearly 27k with CCVID on Kiara's debuff channel.

>>19854080
fuck off
nijijp winning this timeslot is funny though

I'm just gonna drop this here. I'm not en vs jp guy, i'm not finana, i just wanna give numbers.

>>19854270
>totals
Useless, holox reclined hard while Luxiem inclined.

>>19852988
>they are dumb and stream on NA time
umm, anon, because they're ''EN,'' I respect them for the grind

>>19854315
Tomoe is a dyke she's an honorary male

>>19854398
>not Finana
Of course not, she's the Gura schizo.

>>19854398
20k+ vs 17k ccv avg. Something must fucking up in youtube system.

i'm loooping

>>19854411

the audience for them is not there. actually grinding for nothing

Do y'all think when Noctyx saw they had like 70-80k people watching their debut that they'd have more than 2-3k people watching their streams 2 weeks later?

>>19854398
>high viewer retention
>high CCV
When will retarded chumfags learn?

>>19854579
They thought they could get Luxiem's success without having to pander.

>>19854398
>just wanna give numbers
ah yes, the magical numbers that exist in a vacuum, how noble of you

>>19854656
Never. Don't bite the cumtards' worthless timeloop baits please.

>>19854656
>Low CCVID infection
>High CCVID infection
When will retarded JPfags learn?

>nijiEN getting laughed at again
>oh don't mind me, I just dropped this Gura vs Pekora VOD timeloop again, totally just numbers haha

>>19854656
You need to go back to school fungus.

>>19854770
>still can't beat Ame's superchat reading
The absolute state of Nijikeks

>>19854415
tomoe is bi, retard-kun

>>19854656
Gen 5 schizo.....

>>19852751
I still stand by my prediction that Nene's gonna win this shit
Idol outfit reveal, Holofes free chat and aftertalk are all going to make bank and Vox is already out of special events

>>19854656
Where do you find the analytics for viewer retention? I've checked every single website here >>19848553 but none of them have it.

>>19854403
Cope

>>19854579
Anon, if we aren't shitposting, I think they are aware that most of their viewership is in Asia, but 4 out of 5 prefer to stream NA time so they get less viewers than they could. If Vox, Mysta and Ike streamed in their time, they would get smaller numbers as well,similar to how Shu does.

>>19854928
Same place you find the analytics for EN like culture. Just another cope.

>>19854080
And nijiniggers wonder why they are persecuted here

>>19854928
CCV anon. It declines on boring content and inclines during interesting content

>>19854894
>Vox is already out of special events
dyrbi
I mean, it's NijiEN, he'll probbly pull a special event out of anything.

>>19854928
they aren't public, which is why this timeloop is retarded
you have to get a chuuba to give you that data, and i think that's a ng with yt

Fauna just mentioned youtube has been limiting ads on her streams, i wonder if this could be related to CCV fuckery.

>>19854948
Ok my bad, forgot sonny. He streams in a space that no one in nijien does,which is between 3pm jst and 6pm jst. So 3 out of 5, instead of 4 out of 5

>>19854894
That manwhore will do a 450k and 500k subs celebration this month, among a few other ASMR cringy stuff, don't worry anon.

Only Mori and Ina are using the Elden Ring buff? Why is EN like this?

>>19854894
Vox is going to celebrate every 10k subs

>>19854998
celebrating being alive soon

>>19854998
Vox only had 400k as special event. With how much he grows, only next month for a 500k milestone stream.

>>19854894
anon, he can just make up new special events to turn into celebrations. Hell, he's close to 420k subs, that's a special stream + superchat asmr reading.

>>19855028
ame and fauna get filtered.
Bae is bad at videogames
Kroni and mumei computer might not be able to run it.
Kiara wants more chill games and less stress.

>>19854894
>425k Celebration
>450k Celebration
>475k Celebration
>ASMR part X
>Ringfit part X
>Taking your voice requests etc
I dunno anon, when you're as shameless as Vox, ANYTHING can be an 'event' stream to milk more money out of Fujo/Yumejo. That's just off the top of my head too.

>>19854894
His birthday is next month so maybe he gonna do a birthday prep stream

>>19854998
>asmr after talk or whatever
>420k celebration for the meme
>copying mysta and reacting to debut not even 3 months in
>450k countdown
there, i can think like a prostitute too

>>19854996
Ah yes, the magic number you can literally see Susan tamper with each stream as she cuts the waiting room in half. that one?

>>19854928
That's only available to creators, its not public information.

Niji merch(Chocolate) going international
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1501369165478645763

>>19855086
At this point I think only Sony permission will be good for NA as a whole, they need movie games.

>>19855170
>shipping chocolate
this has to be a joke

>>19855170
For a second I thought NijiEN got merch.
They're just shipping chocolate overseas.

Alban's chat is celebrating every new superchat. Is this ever happened on any JP chuuba?

>>19855170
>chocolate

>>19854996
by your metric. whatever ame is doing rn is more interesting than nijiEN's worm collab? (still inclining)

>>19855170
>literally whos
Where is Mito. Kuzuha and Lize?

>>19855095
Somehow this is what I worried from HoloEN when they're announced
But somehow someone that whore himself first is male vtuber is surprising

>*insert some huge number here* twitter followers celebration stream
>SC milestone celebration
>first video to hit million celebration
>monthly anniversary celebration
>100th livestream celebration
>nijisanji EN anniversary celebration
Sky's the limit anon. If there's a will there's away. No need to thank me Vox

>>19855293
is ironic we got manhwores in EN rather than regular ones.

>>19855170
Did they tweet early? The shop isn't updated, you can't order it internationally.

>>19855293
It's never not funny that the doomposts out of /jp/ for EN turned out to be right.....
For NijiEN males.

>>19855095
>>19855118
>>19855083
>>19855040
>>19855020
Vox only does those with each 100k anons. at least look before.
Here's the 100k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e14mv7jVUKs
then endurance for 300k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD1tNhuOzKo
then endurance for 400k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNJf_lyI87Q

He never did celebration outside of 100k and only endurances to reach a number. It's an exaggeration.

>>19855170
>waiting 3 to 6 months for chocolate
that shit is gonna melt

>>19855398
Kek. Can't believe e-whores would turn out to be males.

>>19855431
they are saying this because of what nina and mysta did in the last couple of days anon

>>19855293
>>19855398
>>19855440
Never forget.
https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4

>>19855322
endurance asmr to x superchat followed by celebration asmr

>>19855431
Celebrating small milestones barely became a thing in the past week or two for NijiEN.

>>19855495
Nina and mysta are nina and mysta. not everyone in nijien are numberfags. Even vox who is a numberfag has his own pattern, and his pattern isn't like that.

Fauna pretty much cemented herself in this stream as going full dyke as a Hololive member.
One less Stars collab partner.

>>19855431
So? Doesn't change the fact that he can make up celebrations if he wants, which is exactly what I said.

>>19855170
Why can't they make a contract with a state-side confectionary to run off some branded chocolate? How hard could it be, I'm pretty confident you could just sit with a phonebook and make calls, and as long as you can make a credible, decently large order and your check clears, someone would take your business. Gotta be more efficient than shipping candy on a container ship across the planet

>>19855542
sure bud

>>19855577
>Thinking that it's going to be NA that orders this shit
Come the fuck on Anon. Don't kid yourself, you know exactly who's going to be ordering this shit.

Tbh, I'm more surprised at how much Chloe stoped her money farming, she still gain a lot of money but she doesn't go all in on it anymore, I expected shit like Apex gacha stream, Uma musume gacha stream, asmr streams, but nope, she will also play ER now which means even more days without SC, girl chilled a lot.

>>19855496
Normally I don't have issues with catbox links, but yours is just not loading.

>>19855636
Oh, you're right. Duh.

>>19855636
are there any big supermarket / minimarket chain in china / taiwan ?

>>19855650
She farms her gachis in members only now doesn't she?
She started hiding in there after the Rushia shit happened from what I remember.

>>19855733
From a 5 second Google search for Taiwan...
>In 2020, PX Mart enjoyed the largest market share in Taiwan's supermarket industry, amounting to almost 61 percent

>morals in a numberfag thread
not this again

>>19855797
>numbers are contextless
tism tier take

>>19855797
It matters in a roundabout way, to justify it.
Consider, if you're a sponsor, how willing would you be to sponsor someone who panders as hard as Vox does? It limits the kinds of companies that would be comfortable with attaching their name to his, and in the extreme cases, results in you straight up not getting sponsorships if you go full e-whore. See: Project Melody and Vshojo's general lack of direct sponsorships.

>>19855747
I see, kinda sad that we will never get numbers, as the anon who tried to do it last time found it to be a pain to do.

>>19855679
Catbox itself is shitting the bed. There's zz.ht if you want to use that, but it's not as friendly as catbox.
But all you need to know is this *guitar riff*

Fauna is gonna try opening supers for prechat, she usually kept them off till right before stream start.

>>19855956
what, i don't watch ens, but that's how jps do it, why would she do this before

>>19855955
Fuck you. I swear that video left me with some sort of PTSD.

>>19856000
>WAR!
Man, the more and more I see, the rrat that NijiEN done goof'd up and riled Council up becomes more real.

3 council girl will stream at past midnight, was this common or are they tyring to check others time slots?

>>19855955
Is that the infamous audition video shit? Or am I getting my shit mixed up now.

>>19855898
i wonder since vox audience is mostly chinese/asia does it affect the kind of sponsorships they could get?

>>19856105
>Kronii streams
>Sana streams
This is when you know they are pissed.

>>19856156
If the sponsors aren't stupid, 100%.
Demographic targeting is marketing 101, even a braindead monkey from the outside intuitively understands that you don't target your marketing blindly since that's generally a waste of the advertising budget.

>>19854082
overlapps will hurt the other numbers

>>19856156
I don't think gacha companies care too much right? But then again, why hire an EN to shill to the CN/TW server.

Sana's return stream today was a massive event in the world of vtubing. Fans can't stop leaving their best wishes to her recovery on twitter. Sana is loved.

>>19856156
>Vox audience is Chinese/Asia
They have Worldwide appeal faggot, compare that to Gura and her pandering to 3rd World Countries that couldn't even afford a decent meal

2 separate HoloEN superchat readings are currently mogging NijiEN.

>>19856266
>>19856156
IF guras chart from cover is anything to go by they alwasy gives info about where their viewers are coming from. so it might have some influence.

>>19856287
kek

>>19856287
Pretty sure that's a different Sana aka KPop Sana aka Sana from TWICE

>>19856318
>slene 4k already
slow and steady...

>>19856347
Anon....your joke reps...

>>19856347
Same Sana, that’s why she wasn’t streaming.

I think it's safe to say that Suisei is the strongest music vtuber

>>19856390
wtf sana doing her idol rep

ew wtf

>>19856447
t.reimu

>>19856447
uhh anon, wrong thread ?

>>19856425
Her singing is shit, there's dozens of vtubers better than her at singing. You wouldn't know that, because you only watch one corporation.

>>19856293
Since does Gura pander to third worlders? The only target audience that gets targeted with Gura is the weeb market, and NA has a bunch of those.

Do really think that Cover and tech marketing teams are so braindead retarded (unlike you) that they will shill expensive goods on people that can't afford them?

>>19856495
Unless it's a roundabout joke that since these fags are talked about so much in /#/ that dropping this sorta thing is on-topic, in which case well played.

>>19856338
More than just some influence, it's surely a central factor. If you're advertising something only popular in the US you don't want someone who's audience is 70% Asian, and vice versa.

>>19856347
Wrong, click on the trending topic and this is the top tweet. It's clearly about Hololive Sana.

i hate women
except for my oshi of course

>>19856447
Noctyx didnt get gold

wow, all council have a stream today.

>>19856542
Anon, please. Your 'dont bite the bait' reps...

>>19856532
This is the numbers thread, so he's obviously talking about numbers, 2viewschizo. Hi by the way, you've been working a triple shift today in the seethe factory

>>19856532
t. seething 2view

>>19856608
So according to you this is the "worship major corporations thread", which really just boils down to "worship a single corporation in particular thread"

>>19856592
Anyone bored enough to look up when is the last time they all have separate streams all in one day, not counting collabs?

>>19856592
oh i forgot mumei existed, what the fuck happened to her

>>19856677
oh no worry anon we also worship noripro, njjisanji, vspo, and also minor one like tsunderia

>>19856677
This is these numbers thread. Feel free to post your big indie numbers. Or hey, if you want, you could even start comparing indies and posting about who got the biggest numbers just among indies.

I wouldn't say Suisei singing is shit, but her voice is definitely ... different from the usual high-pitch anime-like idols that people normally expect
Whether it's a strength or weakness is on you

I feel HoloEN management saw the discord leak, showed them to HoloEN members and maybe it kinda affected them a little bit.
Fulgur literally lives inside of their head. He changed the industry with the pipebomb

>>19856545
it was. here's some vox as well

>>19856791
It put HoloENs lack of streams into the spotlight

>>19856839
why are men so disgusting

>>19856791
the reality is that nijien management contacted holoen management, made the members involved to apologize and explain the situation and that was it. all of them are still following nijien anyway.

>that nigger that takes every single post form this thread and turns it into a tribal new thread
jesus

>>19856791
As much as I love the rrat, it's more like outside of Fauna, all of council was out for one reason or another
>Sana
Back injury
>Bae
Break that ended today
>Mumei
Moving
>Kronii
Primary PC back from repairs at the start of her schedule
That it lines up just after a spicy bit of bantz got dropped, well, I'll just blame Watamage.
>>19856886
That's how you know you're not a faggot.

>>19856915
>"hey... uh, sorry for calling your friends and coworkers disappointments"
dunno why this scenario is so funny in my head

>>19856791
Anon you're starting to buy /vt/ rrats because they sound like amusing scenarios to you. The reality is they don't give a fuck about NijiEN and most of them have never even heard of em. Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to state
>oh yeah management, known to never actually mandate things you should do, just things you shouldn't, demanded all 11 hands on deck because a never officially confirmed to be true screenshot showed Niji talents slightly mocking Hololive in a secret channel designed to circumvent their management

>>19857097
I doubt management mandated anything, but given Mori's unfollow->follow again, NijiEN talents probably did have someone fire a DM at Mori at least.

>>19857097
>they don't give a fuck about NijiEN
Kiara does. Therefore NijiEN lives rent free in all of HoloEN's heads

>>19857006
Maybe HoloGra can make a good episode out of it, just for the laugh.

>>19856749
She moved, so limiter off no more neighbours to annoyed Mumei is starting

>>19851121
eh, don't think she could pull off rushia because EN market doesn't really accept that stuff, is somewhat less autistic with it, and she has the biggest debuff for a gfe streamer

everyone else
>judges indies, small corporations, major corporations on different standard
>judges popularity separately depending on the venue
>they're popular "for an indie" or "for a small corpo"
>praises people who achieve popularity against their peers

The numbers thread
>directly judges indies against major corporations
>claims that if an indie has lower viewers than a major corporation they must be worse or inferior
>doesn't do any statistics or "horseracing" with smaller corporations or indies, focuses all attention on one corporation
>entire thread is just their excuse to worship yagoo's nutsack

>>19856701
January 28?

>>19855650
Oh she's gonna do ER? Well that's yet another holo

Yeah SCs are gonna be low for much of holo and niji this month (Luxiem obv excluded)

>>19856532
>>19856677
The most delicious seethe this thread gets are from the salty 2 views who realize that every second in this thread is another second reminding them that they're a mere speck of dust thinking they're some big shot in the massive world of vtubing
Go set up a blue women altar, do your Tetris reps and pray that Suisei gives a shit about you to give you a boost, whom you'll gladly lick her shoes while accepting it

>>19857322
>Insane man thinks all of /#/ is one person, more news at 11
Take your meds buddy.

>>19857322
Are you lost anon? asp/vsingers/lig is another place.

Any vtuber talking about Ukraine and taking sides? If yes, did it have any effect on numbers?

>>19857476
You are licking the dried crusty shit out of yagoo's anus with your tongue.
>>19857489
People argue that the numbers thread is just fun horseracing entertainment. And yet I don't see any horseracing for indies or smaller corporations. Only for one major corporation

>>19857546
It has been fun to watch you emerge as a new resident schizo. Who are you anyway? This vendetta seems a little personal.

>>19857322
>horserace small corpos
Hal, Patra or Tamaki (on a collab) win everytime. If they don't stream that day VSPO wins.
There, that's a summary of like the last 2 months.

>>19857546
Do you see horseracing for disabled horses? EN gold is horrible enough as it is.

>>19857546
No I'm licking Suisei's pretty ass because idols don't use the toilets
Keep seething though if you think indies have any way shape or form in being competitive with corpos

>>19855577
No you can't actually do that, not unless you want to get in trouble for tax evasion and evading tariffs.
There is a reason it took cover so long to set up an na storefront, you cannot just ring up some stateside producers and let them handle it like you would if you're living in the country.

>>19857322
what? you want more special Olympic here?

>>19857322
>claims that if an indie has lower viewers than a major corporation they must be worse or inferior
We don't measure quality here you nigger.

>>19857610
Yagoo stole his ideas.

>>19856293
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>>19857648
Suisei's a trash vtuber who doesn't even speak english. Not even worth talking about. I know you're her manager or something shilling her in this thread, but I couldn't care less.
>>19857684
It's a different type of animal. You watch horseracing, dogracing, car racing. It's different.

>>19857430
>SCs are gonna be low for much of holo and niji this month
Not really, >>19852751 is way higher than it was this time last month and holofes aftertalks (and freechats assuming most will do them) will rake in a whole ton of money

>>19856969
They wanted war so we're giving them one

>>19852268
Do you have the total number for Suisei's album sales? Has it reach 30k yet?

All this senseless arguing while Yagoo is preparing for the biggest payday of his life, while Riku is struggling to make ends meet.

>>19857322
Sweetie are you lost? This is 4chan, not crystalcafe, you should probably scurry back there if you can't take the heat

>>19857743
And when she does she makes tens of thousands fall over their knees
Keep narrowing yourself down to who you are, seething EN 2 view

>>19857610
He spent hours trying to convince /hlgg/ to watch Nijisanji

>selen already suprased fauna SC reading
NIJIFEMALES
I KNEEL

>>19855559
One more step towards HolostarsEN humiliation and hilarious failure.
One more step towards the closing of the branch.
One more step towards Manjisanji EN domination.

>>19857766
Holy shit, I totally forgot about the after-talk since I can't understand moonrunes.
Will this be the first time a majority of people can tune into a Fes after-talk if HoloMyth does one?

>>19857883
ngl I wanted to try out Elira, Selen and Enna but they always manage to overlap with Gura so I just gave up and continued watching Gura instead

>>19857944
I only fap to the porn

>>19857914
OK, shitposting aside, is the success of Luxiem really even a little due to collabs with the girls? Their audience isn't really there for that obviously, I kinda doubt there's much overlap

>>19855747
While she still gets decent SCs in members-only streams, it's usually not THAT much.

I just analyzed the SCs from her most recent members-only stream, a watchalong, and she made ~¥326,000 (using late Feb exchange rates so not fully accurate).

>>19855170
>9240 yen excluding shipping
Yeah, no. Niji keeps surprising me with bad business decisions

western indies...

>>19858125
when will they learn

>>19858011
The girls consistently debuff Luxiem. They can't even serve as accessories since Luxiems are going homolust panderidng.

>>19858112
>80$
there better be a LOT of chocolate

>>19857933
Gura at least confirmed that she's gonna talk a shit ton about Holofes when it's over.

>>19857006
maybe not in those words but i dont doubt that nijien management made them do something behind the scenes to not make into a big situation. it's what makes the most sense to me, staying low but still correcting the fuck up behind the scenes.

>>19857322
This is the numbers thread, where the big numbers are worshiped and everyone else gets shit on. The top will be at the top and there is nothing that you can do about it... except we actually do discuss indies and smaller corporations from time to time if they're doing something noteworthy.

>>19857507
Hey, don't drag /vsinger/ into this. They're their own thread and we're on friendlier terms with them.

>>19857743
You wish you were as successful as Suisei, nigger. From 2view to superstardom, something you will never get close to because you spend your days seething in this place.
Don't go back at streaming, no, just off yourself

when did this seething 2view started visiting /#/ ? quite amusing ngl

Ame finally hits 5k on a debuff title stream

>>19858011
There's female fans that definitely began to watch the girls because I see them in chat, but there's also many who do like the girls but not enough to watch them and then of course, the female fans who hate the girls and only want dicks.
>>19858185
anon, this here was on petra channel and there wasn't a debuff.

Does Nijisanji finally have unique merch? Are they finally putting in the effort?

>>19858464
They come and go, though I'm not sure if it's just one or a group of them.

>>19858525
It's the same fucking faggot, claiming that this thread worships only Yagoo and everyone who likes Hololive are paid Holoshills

>>19858516
See for yourself if you are curious
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/?ima=5500

Since when did 4chan become a place where 2views visit? I mean, if you need to grow, learn from better streamers, not shitposting on 4chan.

>>19857210
I hope they DMed the Council too or this will be a repeat of Kiara honestly admitting she never heard of Cannur’s apology because Mori thought she was the entirety of EN

>>19858464
>he doesn't know about the falseflagging nijiniggers
Don't get fooled, anon.

>>19858515
that on myst or vox channel is a 20k easily.

>>19858591
Jesus, nothing but acrylic stand and keychains

>>19858634
/asp/

>>19858634
Unironically, there's no where else to shill yourself. The desperate try to become /here/ vtubers until they get burned or become too big and ditch this place.

>>19857322
Yes, is there a problem?

>>19858634
it's because for the longest time meanness has been associated with truth telling, and even though people have tried to counter it over the years, it still rings true for people
so it gives the impression that people here know what they're talking about because they're shitheads about it
but we know the iq around here is room temperature

>>19857743
Oh look, it's the same nijinigger schizo from 12 hours ago.

>>19858515
>barely 17k with Mysta and Vox
See their median >>19852876
That should be a 20k guaranteed stream

>>19858683
>>19858815
I doubt he's someone falseflagging. He seems like a complete schizo, take a quick look at this thread >>19838275

>>19858941
Petra debuff.

>>19858011
Not really, but that's the problem Hololive has.
There are two ways to make Holostars EN (and their JP counterparts for that matter) a success.

>Aim for the female asian audience.
So exactly what Nijisanji EN / Luxiem did. This thread doesn't seem to like them for that though.

>Aim for an audience similar to that of Hololive and hope that you will attract some new viewers on top of that (female audience?) with the classic seiso/idol/gamer route (similar to the girls).
That one though requires the BOX, something that HolostarsJP didn't have and that's why they are a failure.
If you go that route and you don't integrate HolostarsEN to the BOX, they have no hope of surviving, they'll just be 3-views just like their JP counterparts.

So we have to see what Cover will do.
IMO they should go the Luxiem/Vox route since I don't think they will have the girls collab with the guys.
At least with the Vox/Luxiem route the boys will be successful and profitable.

>>19858634
Unfortunately every other place to discuss vtubers are censored to hell. Reddit, Discord, Youtube, etc

>>19859004
I normally hate number bait threads in the catalog but if it draws schizos away from this one then the end justifies the means

>>19859241
> This thread doesn't seem to like them for that though.
i dont think it will be well received even by their JPs holomens if they go that route.
i think nijiJPs have show 0 interest in vox,luca or mysta for a reason.

Why Noctyx didn't do well as we expect?

>>19858011
>the success of Luxiem really even a little due to collabs with the girls
No, not even a little bit. The girls did not bring in the Chinese fujo audience

>>19859182
Petra debuff while pulling 17k, makes total sense anon.
>>19858941
This median is with their pandering streams reaching 10k. My point is that all of the other streams with girls, they got much less than that, all below 10k or even 5k. In this one in her channel they got this number. So depending on the circumstances the girls aren't a debuff to them getting more viewers, and a large part of that is time, povs available and the content itself.

>>19858515
That would mean tha Luxiem is a buff for the girls not the other way around

>>19859330
? Mikoto, Chigusa, Oliver, Utako and others talked positively about luxiem.

Chigusa wanted to collab with Luca.

>>19859241
The manwhore route might indirectly harm the girls though and they’re Cover’s biggest asset. I think they’ll try the bro streamer route. StarsEN honestly doesn’t need to be insanely successful to be profitable. Noctyx numbers are enough to justify the investment. I hope they try the shota route though

>>19859536
>positive
in a fujo sense
they guys pretty much scared the males interest.

>>19859241
I think one of the biggest problems that HolostarsEN might have is the expectation that they will be intertwined with HoloEN and will party up with them, when that’s almost certainly not gonna happen. And I mean this on a like personal level. I genuinely believe there’s a lot of people applying with the thought that they’ll have these giant collabs with people like Gura and things will go great and so on, that when the time comes and they’re awfully distant from the girls they’ll end up feeling very discouraged.

Not saying this is gonna be the exact situation or that no ENs would collab or any of that. It’s just the expectations of the members themselves that worry me.

>>19859494
It is, I'm not denying that. What I'm denying is that not every time the girls will be a debuff, and that stream was one of those. It had perfect conditions: good time for asian audience, a game that females care about, two popular members, two girls that are seen as little sisters and liked by females, all hosted in the channel of the organizer.

>>19859241
I think it's too risky to try to pull the Myth/Council audience in on Holostars EN. They have no choice but to let the men stand on their own. Even if the EN girls wanted to collab with the dudes (which is far from a given for most of them) it's not like they'll do it frequently enough to carry the branch.

>>19859625
Oliver already had collabs with Shu and he's doing another in a few weeks. Akina just a few days tweeted to Sonny and followed him. there's more examples out there.

>>19859004
>/here/ makes another retard go full schizo by merely existing yet again

>>19859536

>>19859637
If collabing with the EN girls isn't an option, they just need to make that clear from the start. Seems like a smart idea anyway to filter gachis. You want people there because they want to be Holostars.

>>19859718
Man, you blow these rrats right out of the gate Shinobi, fuck them.

>>19859241
>This thread doesn't seem to like them for that though.
That's no true. What people here dislike is how little value that generates for NijiEN overall while also dragging down the girls for the CGDCT crowd (which is very present in the vtuber industry). Fujos and Unicorns don't really mix.

>>19859718
oliver colab was before the chinese fujo explosion i think it was literally after new year.
Tweet ineaction never results in collabs for them.
There is no interest on them as their taste and viewers are totally different. the cultural difference is too much for the jps to bear in top of the language barrier.

>>19859802
i wonder what pepople like toya and kanae think about them.

>>19859959
Those NijiJP guys are afraid and threatened. That's the biggest reason why none of them are interested in a big collab with Luxiem or Noctyx.

>>19860019
They think they are trash

>>19859959
have they EVEN interacted with the ID males?

>>19859637
Pull a holo jp collab with males until they got enough members and then stop? The jp girls stop males collab after the gen 3 debut i think....

>>19860019
Probably a bunch of young boys trying to intrude the territories of these guys. JP females are falling head over heels towards these English-speaking guys. They are changing the industry.

>>19860069
Kek, Luxiem debut less than a year and already pulling better numbers than those JP fags.

This is pretty similar to Hayase 3D stream few days ago

>>19860019
Fuwa probably rolling his eyes, look at this western germs.

>>19859536
chigusa just wants clips so she can endlessly keep growing her sub count while wondering why her ccv is the same

>>19860163
she restarted the stream to fix the goxlr

>>19859241
going the luxiem route might indirectly harm holoEN's image with sponsors, especially as NA is pretty puritan, so I don't think its in the cards. If they were guaranteed to stay far away from all of HoloEN, including council though, then I'd be fine with them going that route if sponsorships for EN wouldn't be effected.

>>19859828
The only ones they really need to stop are Gura, Kronii, and Ame collabs. Gura and Ame have major gosling audiences, Gura especially. Kronii has coomer audience. Ina would probably self isolate regardless, but I don't think takos would get be affected by male collabs

>>19860085
Does bon bon even interact with the nijifemales anymore?
seems like he got kicked out of the clique

>>19860163
Viewbots

Who did he mog?

>>19860275
finana

>>19860019
I doubt Kuzuha even knows who they are.

>>19860324
>Kuzushit not knowing the chad that mogged him hard in SC

>>19860251
Gura already indicated she's going the idol route, Ame has been slowly ramping up the GFE in members only iirc. Ina has been going dyke mode with the other girls.
>>19860275
Bubbabot would be #6 on Twitch vtuber tag

>>19860324
Yes he knows, since they are slowly reaching his live viewership.

>>19859241
They have little choice but NOT to go the Luxiem route

First, Luxiem has already captured the chinese fujo market. Witness niji EN girl's relative failure to capture the same audience as holo EN.
Second, there's gonna be intense backlash in Hololive, especially when they're going to be compared with Holostars JP behavior.
Third, there's less incentive to pander in Hololive due to salary, and the fact that Yagoo is already willing to support the likes of holostars JP, Sana, and ID as much as possible.

>>19860413
Oh I know, just mentioning it that these ones are critical to HoloEN fan stability, so they must be untouchable by any direct male presence aside from people like actual stars or Dante's voice actor or something. That they they are growing it is only a good thing.

>>19860407
>>19860462
That's the thing, he doesn't care about numbers

Why is Vox considered a whore here but Rushia and Lamy are glorified?

>>19860251
Ame is really that of a siren for her viewers? I know that Gura and Kronii’s viewers here are control freaks. Ina seems pretty chill with her audience, but might also a strange ticking bomb because we never see takos being “active” towards their priestess.

>>19860618
you don't watch lamy if you think you can make this sort of statement

>>19860586
Verse incline! Go sony!

>>19860707
anon, uno gets over 100, this is bad for her

>>19860618
Clearly you don't watch lamy. Rushia, yes she a whore.

>>19860618
I dream for a day Lamy does half the shit Vox does

>>19848986
The question is if it is management or that the hololivers were so offended they are actually doing something.

>>19860669
Yes teammates are the original goslings, and she has done gfe streams before. I'd say she's the biggest GFE after Gura for EN.

>>19860618
Because Lamy played Elden Ring on stream unlike Vox

>>19860809
Me 2 snowman.... One can only hope....

>>19860618
Rushia is definitely a whore though

>>19859241
They could go the beastmen route. .
1. It covers a new niche
2. It would bring in a new audience
3. its been proven to be successful

>>19860618
lamy gets numbers without pandering
vox cant

>>19860890
Pls...no

I pray to God that Holostars EN does not model itself off of Luxiem, even if that dooms them to being eternal 3views.

>>19860964
Even rushia can get numbers without pandering lol.

>>19861015
why does this thread keep thinking they're gonna copy them, where does that come from, holostars has existed for years, they obviously have a model they'll follow

>>19861114
numberfags pleezu andastando

>>19860618
Most of the people here are male and male doesn't like to see another male whore himself

>Bae: You don't have to bring someone else down to bring yourself up

>>19861114
Because their only competitor in the western market has seen massive financial success with that approach, which it would be tempting to emulate if your primary goal is to offer a competing alternative. I don't believe this is Cover's motivation for a Holostars EN, but it's impossible to deny it's a possibility.

>>19861225
fulgor....

>>19859241
If HolosarsEN were exiled to Twitch. That could be a way that Cover gets a new audience

>>19860964
People forget the previous 1 SC holder was just a weirdo.

>>19861114
NijiJP has existed for years and didn't pander this hard. Didn't stop NijiEN from going ultra manwhore

I don't want fucking otome/fujo male game chars for starsen. Gimme actual anime characters like goku or actual talking mecha or even fucking bald ojisan character. Limiting male vtubers to only bishie characters is stupid.

>>19861297
NijiJP has literal gigolo vtuber and even he does not stoop this low

>>19859637
If they cant stand on their own feet, they should skip. Leeches are hated, and it wont be different inside. The only ones who get carried in the box are those that tried and struggled.

>>19861288
Most of the people asking for StarsENN are twitchfags anyway

>>19861417
Bald ojisan, shota, nigga, hipster...

>>19861417
Why is there no tokusatsu vtuber? That's the best niche out there

>>19860707
>Uno
>below 3 digits
Sony...

>>19861417
Bara, Shota, Punk, anything but bishonen. But I think one bishonen is pretty much guaranteed.

>>19861231
Successful male vtubers in the west? I dont see one yet

>>19861225
kek

>>19860707
I honestly wonder how those poor girls feel having the worst of all worlds, being stuck in what's likely a very constricting Sony contract, having the downsides of being a corpo with even more problems coming from that corpo being Sony, and being stuck as an eternal 2view/3view in spite of all that.

>>19861478
>If they cant stand on their own feet, they should skip
This is the same company that imposes onne month collab bans, it would be pointless to hire a bunch of male talents that cant stand on their own and need Hololive for relevancy

>>19861752
hope yagoo saves a couple of them

>>19861225
Ill check that later, watching momers

>>19861579
Selejo is super sentai.