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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear on the daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship their dieties? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?

>>19823470
I see /inf/ is going full /ringo/

I promise I'll try to make a conjoined lore for /miComet/, one day. I will also finish the flag too, one day.

>>19825976
So, still no decision on the fate of Fandeadland? By this point I was expecting the surrounding nations to partition it like Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth...

>>19828739
there are a lot of different ideas

>>19828739
It'll probably depend on if the land gets a new goddess, if you know what I mean. For now, I imagine it's probably in shambles due to the local chuubanite going nuclear, which both devastates what society they had before, while keeping its neighbours from just annexing the land. If the fanbase just died without a successor, I guess then we can decide its ultimate fate.

>>19828739
I'd rather leave the area as a desolate wasteland for now

Is Anya-Petra still going for the ‘frozen hell-hole/bunkers’ angle? If it is the case then maybe the state could be depicted as an authoritarian centrally-ruled government (a la the Soviet Union/Maoist China) with a secret police that enforces “Petranyan Unity” thought.

>>19829288
But Anya-Petra's climate isnt tundra. Theyre tropical

>>19829409
If they want to be a tundra, could they be moved somewhere?

>>19829545
We don't have a place that fits both the desired climate and being in between holo and niji continent tho

Whelp. Sana might be abandoning us soon. That's the general consensus of /nasa/. We do have a signal this time. Now I just have to wait anxiously to see if Sana really is graduating.

>>19830221
wtf /nasa/, already clinging to graduation rrats?
have some faith in her, jesus

>>19830946
The Mozzies have all but taken over the /nasa/ thread. There used to be interest in /vtwbg/ on /nasa/. But since the Mozzie takeover its now schizo larp shit that needs to be banned for off-topic shitposting. They're flooding the thread with graduation rrats trying to bully Sanalites off of /vt/. Might have to split off and make another general if this keeps up.

>>19830221
Have faith /nasa/, our prayers are with you.
t. a mere /infinity/ anon.

>>19829409
I was thinking that cold place + dystonic government would make an interesting (albeit cliched) narrative. Speaking about government, what do you think of my suggestion above? or should Petranya be potrayed in a more positive/less-doomer way

>>19831548
You could have a drug problem that corrupts your government and people.

>>19831548
you could make Anya-Petra the Cuba
of the world, brutalist architecture in the tropical paradise, it just works out!

>>19831834
Would it be possible without nukes?

>>19830946
I doubt it's actual sanalites, /nasa/ is half-shitposters these days

>>19832045
Guerrilla warfare ain't just a meme. Is petranya's current terrain a jungle?

>>19832096
nasa usually has 20-30 ips, anything more and I guarantee you it's been raided

>Anya-Petra drops the cold wasteland to fit their climate
>Becomes Tropico instead
VIVA LA GENERALISSIMA ANYA!!

>>19832045
Why wouldnt it? What would you need nukes for?

>>19832260
>>19832096
Its a raid. Sana's an easy target which is why we have 5 Sana threads every day. Mozzies are trying to blackpill Sanalites into leaving /vt/ so they can circle jerk in their Discord about drama. They want Sana's graduation and nothing less.

>>19832328
Sweet, now I don't need to worry about looking like a copycat.

>>19831611
I feel like rampant drug abuse should be a reaction to a more underlying societal issue, maybe racial tensions/general instability caused by Anya-supremacist dissidents. The idea of a drug epidemic could also create an interesting dynamic where Petranya is hostile to neighbouring states that smuggles drugs/harbors cartels. Just throwing ideas

I'm going to prepare the self-destruct sequence to the station. /nasa/ has been infiltrated to the point its being derailed into a Holo-Niji war. In order to protect other generals from the trojan horse I am prepated to destroy /nasa/ station.

Some tropical kingdoms Anya-Petra can take inspirations
Maurya
Majapahit
Mughal

Depending on how things go I might just make a split from /nasa/ and destroy the old station. Sure this means we're literally going to have to take a nerf and exist as vassal states to /who/ and /infinity/. There might not be saving /nasa/. All the Sanalites have left leaving nothing but dramafags and schizos. The tundra will most likely become a smoldering crater while everyone moves to the south to live in log cabin villages by the forest. We will lose our bread dogs and networking. But that's life.

>>19833618
>The schizo hordes migrated south from their wastes and drove away the Sanalites

>>19833618
Well, I'd recommend you don't worry about the worldbuilding thread until the shitposting wave is over, making an after action report would be easier than planning things out now.

WARNING! Meteor spotted in /nasa/ territory. It is big enough to make impact. Seek shelter immediately.

sanallites and their crippled god...
you guys should have a weak spine just like your oshi, requiring robotic braces to keep you standing

>>19836025
What do you think a life in near zero-g does? Sana isn't used to living in earth's gravity and neither are Sanalites.

>>19835639
Update on meteor sighting. The meteor is not a world ending rock. It is big and has unusual energy readings. Trajectory shows the meteor landing north of the station. Estimate size of impact crater to be around 30 meters. Seek shelter immediately in case of stray debris. Impact in T-10 minutes.

/who/, /rose/, and /infinity/ visitors will be escorted to shelter. Please follow instructions for your safety.

>>19837536
And /inf/ member here, our ambassador is sleeping, but in our thread we've talked about giving refuge to sanalites before if needed. He surely would be posting this if he was awake. No conditions apply, this is a humanitarian help.

>>19837536
The meteor has landed. Please wait a half an hour before going outside for the fallout to subside. When near the impact site remember to turn off your ventilators to your space suits so hot debris don't get in your systems. All visitors please avoid the landing site. Thank you for your cooperation.

Anchoring >>19826046
>>19837536
>>19835639

We got a stream. So we got a gift from Sana. Mozzies are in full damage control.

>>19838105
Sana did not graduate. Mozzies are seething. In return we get a gift from Sana from the heavens. If the meteorite is what I think it is then we can combine it with our current supply of rocket fuel to move the station out of the crater. I'm just as relieved as everyone. But Sana was stupid for not telling us about her back injury. That's space Aussies for you.

>>19838604
We're happy for the Sanalites and the nation of /nasa/. We pay respect and have good wishes for the well being of your goddess. And if I'm allowed to speak for myself and not my country, Live long and prosper /nasa/ ambassador.
t. the /inf/ member.

>>19838604
As a simple researcher i am really excited about the potential this development has. The gift should raise morale and in turn productivity as more Sanallites are made aware of it.

Also, perhaps keeping quiet about the injury until she was sure that it was something that would heal was the better choice, as thinking it might be permanent might have just made people worry even more.

I'm just happy we have a Sana broadcast. Anyway the plan to move the station is a go. No Sana is not going to send meteorites every time she streams. This is a one and done deal. The rest of the chuubanite /nasa/ will obtain comes from the crater. The crater is deep enough we can quarry some good ore without needing to dig through permafrost.

Fun looking thread, might join later after I see how things work around here.

>>19842326
Whose faction do you belong to?

>>19842379
I come from /haha/
but not the same anons who expressed interest because I can't really promise to contribute anything right now...

>>19794908
Great to know we are in good terms!
/yeah/ gets free pass through our waters, which may prove key given that /ybc/ is the largest island in the world with plenty of docks and control of the inner ocean.

~~also we definetely do need the timber given the scale of the monuments being built by Hoomans here~~

>>19794908
Great to know we are in good terms!
/yeah/ gets free pass through our waters, which may prove key given that /ybc/ is the largest island in the world with plenty of docks and control of the inner ocean.

also we definetely do need the timber given the scale of the monuments being built by Hoomans here

For /infinity/'s flags, could each of the separate flags be posted as a reply to this thread's anchor? Use catbox or something

>>19843329
You don't have to be afraid of holo lands. /nasa/ and /rose/ get along somehow. They're in talks with trading flour and sugar for teas, perfumes, and bath salts.

>>19845056
Most of /rose/ likes getting along with everyone! We've got a couple of sticklers, but those always exist anywhere you go.

>>19844638
I'm not the rep, but here are the flags. (We have several other flags and seals for territories and organizations in the work as well.)

National Flag
https://files.catbox.moe/an8fyd.png

Capital City Flag
https://files.catbox.moe/rjdr3k.png

Naval Flag
https://files.catbox.moe/66015s.png

Army Flag
https://files.catbox.moe/96f3np.png

National Archive
https://a.pomf.cat/lfhnkb.png

I think both catbox and pomf are dead ATM.

>>19826046
Anchoring for ease of archival >>19845546

>>19828739
Canonically, it should be annexed by haachaama

You guys keeping this to non fiction or are they fictional animals and beasts here?
Also what time period is this in?

>>19845892
Seems late 1700s is the cap and fictional creatures exist in a limited fashion.

What is the lore for the HoloEN vs NijiEN War? Will there be a lore for it for the sake of interesting story? Don't even need to end in a winner.

>>19845892
Fictional animals exist as alternate world evolution. If you have dragons then you need to explain how the dragons evolved into what they are.

>>19846013
There's a war?

>>19846013
We don't have a war yet but i think it would make for an interesting story

>>19846013
An all out war would greatly limit trading and collaborating options and some might not even want to participate. Maybe individual states could wage war for now.

>>19846013
there is no war

>>19846246
Border skirmishes? Gangs of villagers crossing the borders to raid the other side?
I dont think nations would be at war yet but small conflicts like these could very well be a thing.

>>19846013
What's this I hear?
What wonderous thing?
Is this the navy bell's ring?
There's just one thing it could mean...

War!

Oh, what is it good for?
It's good for you, it's good for me!

Ohh, War! What is it good for?
Oh, it strengthens the economy!

I suppose /nasa/ is in agreement with sharing some basic bread and pastry recipes so long as they can be baked in a brick oven.

What are the active trade agreements at the moment? They should be listed somewhere for lore reasons?

>>19846013
The only lore is /infinity/ got bamboozled by a schizo and it turned out to be a giant nothing burger.

>>19846013
>>19846246
I was thinking that maybe there was a war long ago between the Holo Empire and the Niji Empire which caused the empires to split into the current nations that exist today. The Holo-Niji Hyper War

>>19849550
I HATE THE ANTI-CLOCK!

>>19826278
ironically its because they want to trade with ringo, believing there's massive profits to be made trading holy piss to them

It took me a bit to figure out how to convert our map into something resembling what the UN logo uses, but here we go! Presenting my flag proposal for the nation of /vtwbg/. What do you guys think?

>>19850382
I like it, looks cool

>>19848413
/nasa/ should establish a bakery chain in the Republic, you'd be able to gain quite the profits.

Say, is there any resource map yet or should we just add in what could be plausible to the land?

>>19850382
Very nice!

>>19850443
That requires capital, which is technology that can't be replicated at this time. /nasa/'s bakeries in the station are quite industrial. /nasa/'s bread is unique that its engineered to perfection with AI. That said brick oven bread is becoming very popular in /nasa/. Sanalites are very excited to apply their once hobbyist skills to practical trades.

>>19850724
Tectonic analysis never came...

>>19846174
>>19846550
Pomu...
Brapfish...
Failgur...
They basically made all the jokes of /#/ into reality.

Today you learned, /#/ are the true prophets.

>>19850902
We could probably make a half-assed analysis based on the mountain ranges we have.

>>19850443
Daily reminder to not trust the Republic.

>>19850902
Busy times, I had to halt working on it last week i do plan on continuing soon
That being said, all I have right now are a few lines and some comments, and some ideas.
>>19851362
Yeah, neutral + indie continent may be a bit of an issue though. The amount of islands and mountains there may point towards the area being a mess of multiple small plates.

>>19851564
*Neutral + Nijicontinent, not indie continent
Indie continent was very simple

>>19851564
Take your time, climate anon!

Are there any premodern equivalents to an anti-aircraft gun? Like, anything that knocks things out of the sky.

>>19852199
there wasn't really any need for that before WW1. But i guess you could have modified shrapnel cannoballs to blow up in the skies instead of the ground, it'd be real expensive and not really worth it. Lieutenant Shrapnel began developing it in 1784, so you could fit it in the timeperiod

>>19850844
Don't export your technology into /owl/, they already said they wanted to steal it.

>>19846013
There's no official war, nor will there likely ever be one irl, not the game setting necessarily, but thus begs the question; are the "Empires" led by a single nation/body or are they alliances? Would we have United Hololive Idolist Republics (UHIS), United States of Nijisanji (USN), Free Fetish ConFederation (FFCF), IndiVidual Allied Nations (IVAN) etc? these are random names I just pulled out of my ass, feel free to judge
>>19849642
This also reminds me, what is jp in all this? Some anons have proposed some stuff, but how do we incorporate it into the lore? Holo and Niji were split during the jp times, and arrived in vt already separated. In fact, Holo had started turning the tides on Niji's dominance from before when vt was created, or rather it was Holo's surge of influence that caused vt to be created. I personally can't accept that the history of various chuubas from various agencies, and thus their fanbase and respective nations, begins with the creation of vt during early 2021, barely a year ago, when that length of time may not even be a third as long as their true presence.
>>19850382
Oh are you the anon that asked for a few variations of an off-centered map a couple threads back? In any case, good work! From the looks of it you centered the globe around... /cig/?
>>19850724
>>19850902
Tectowa...

>>19852474
>are the "Empires" led by a single nation/body or are they alliances?
Alliances, and they're not bound by company since you're already seeing certain holo countries on edge with /who/'s behavior.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some countries that make cross corporate alliances.

>>19852199
Depends on how far back in history you want to go and what you want to knock out of the sky.

If you have gunpowder, shrapnel cannonballs like >>19852413 said could be viable. Canister shot for medium to short ranges.

If cannons are out of the question, a ballista could work

>>19852575
You know how the >H>R>E was just a vague set of alliances under the emperor? /hlgg/ would be like that i guess. But the states feel no obligation to pay tribute or whatever.

>>19852199
Depends what you're thinking of. If they have flammable or easy to damage membranes, you could essentially just saturation bomb them out of the air using fireworks. Alternatively, if you want to be more precise and use less gunpowder, you could use a cannonball designed to burst into fletchettes after travelling a certain distance.

Otherwise, I suppose you could repurpose a mortar to use lighter rounds to act as a precision anti-air weapon. None homing anti-aircraft weapons aren't especially high tech. Its basically just another explosive projectile launcher that's been optimized to hit fast moving aerial targets. Even a ballista that fires bolas (or another entanglement device) could work

>>19852728
>>H>R>E
>Hololive>Romanised>Empire

>>19852967

>>19852474
I imagine at least half of holo won't be republics for one.
>>19852728
HRE setup makes the most sense. Or more like the Sengoku jidai.
The emperor Yagoo is a ceremonial leader in the capital /hlgg/

>>19853076
We need a version of this with Yagoo and the Holocontinent.

>>19853367
There's one version with mumei that shows up on occassions

>>19852454
/nasa/ has already stated we're not interested in opening any facilities in other lands last thread.

>>19852950
If /nasa/ has rocket fuel then they can make AA weapons. However it doesn't seem like airship warfare is a thing in this world. If there's any aerial enemies to look out for is dragons. And that implies we get plausible dragons with wings on forelegs and light hide, not full medieval dragons.

>>19852474
I'm the one who was making maps last thread. There wasn't any agenda with how the globe was centered. The projection used by the UN and here just uses a top-down view from the north pole while everything gets peeled back from the south pole so it's in view. The land masses made a nice circular shape, so I just threw it on to the flag pretty much as-is. Since the holocontinent is the northern one, it ended up central.

>>19853367
はい。

>>19845874
Why Haachama? Did many fandead go to Haachama or did Haachama do something about the Rushia incident?
>>19852575
You basically described the Anya-Petra global... How did this global appear though? I thought Nijibros and Holobros hated each other and here we have a global for a Holo chuuba and a Niji chuuba, and I can't really see much similarities between said chuubas.
>>19852474
I was originally going to object to Hololive being based aroung the USSR, but I WAS the anon that recommended that the Kson global (and the Rushia global should she come back as a chuuba) be sent to the far north of the Holocontinent, basically exiling her to /vt/ Siberia, so now I wonder what flag would represent the UHIS, or maybe the Hololive Pact? We really do need a name for these supra-national entities or alliances, depending on whether we inspire them in the EU or NATO.

Another thing that I was thinking... We might also need flags or a name or some lore for /vt/ FIFA, considering the /vt/ league is happening these days.

>>19856030
Don't think the relationship is too hostile apart from the usual shit-flinging. As for the alliances, I don't think they would be too coherent, considering that /hlgg/ barely has any power over the splits, and the current tech level probably makes actual administration of large areas like that implausible anyway. I would imagine the holo empire (name pending) being more like pre-Imperial Reform HRE and Eastern Zhou dynasty than USSR/Warsaw Pact.

Anyone planning on making a wiki?

>>19856030
Literal minecraft annexation
>>19096899

>>19856516
Oh! Right! When she went to Rushia's house in Minecraft and said its hers! I completely forgot that!

>>19856516
Not sure if that translates to the situation in /vt/ though, and it might be better to wait for a while to see if the new goddess is inheriting Rushia's place. That said, might be interesting to have Haachama claim the land without actually ruling over it. It can be discussed especially if there're people from their threads here.

>>19856516
No /vt/ related

>>19856894
I do agree. It is funny circumstance that they're bordered though.
I think Pekoland and Noel have obvious claims. Noel's thread, I'm not sure how big it usually is but they probably deserve more imo. Not that I can speak for them.
I predict fandead making mikoneko threads, whether they get b& for that or not or can sneak by on the technicality of making Rushia general and just talking about her current stuff, mikoneko implodes permanently, we'll wait and see.

>>19857182
I mean, it is, but not for this world. Rushia's thread didn't suddenly became the Haachama thread

>>19857260
>Rushia's thread didn't suddenly became the Haachama thread
It would be funny if Haachama World suddenly started talking about Rushia kek

>>19856030
In the case of Anya-Petra, I think a lore-friendly explanation would be some sort of mutually-beneficial Real union (imagine two irrelevant LatAm/Caribbean countries uniting in order to increase their relevancy, but not to the point of cultural amalgamation)

Principal's log:

Looks like its all hands on deck repairing /nasa/ station's engines. We gotta move the station out of the crater hopefully by the end of the month. There are still some repair droids operational. So most of the heavy lifting will be done by them. We're going to have to divert power from food processing and air conditioning to get maintenance up and running. We're currently assessing how much fuel we can process from the Chuubanite from the meteor by mixing it with our fuel reserves. If the math is correct the Chuubanite will double the current fuel we have. We're at 12% fuel. But if we get at least 20% fuel then we can safely lift and maneuver the station upright onto stable land. By doing so we will free up 40% of the facilities including workshops, bakeries, and medical.

Before we can do anything we have to clean up the battlefield around the station. It was a bloodbath with casualties on both sides. I don't want /nasa/ to get heavily involved into politics. A defense pact maybe necessary if and when we encounter a full scale invasion. We have also arrested some spies attempting to enter the station. While they did not say what their country of origin is I can only make guesses. Its natural other nations have taken interest in our technology. However I must stress that the prime directive is absolute and that sharing any space age technology with other cultures is forbidden. That said the technology is advanced enough to share pre-industrial revolution technology. /infinity/ has developed clockwork technology that is on par with industrial era if they have a combustion engine. And /who/'s metalurgy uses many modern chemistry and techniques that modern blacksmiths use. While we never met /rbc/ formally, we have concluded that they have fully operational automatons very close to modern robotics. /uuu/ has no technology but they don't need it. Their forest is that of a fairy tail without fairies. I swore when I plucked the leaf of a sapling it slapped my hand back. And there's an entire world beyond the nations that surround us.

For now we're wrapping up our current trade orders. Once the merchants arrive with their ships we will trade our wheat, flour, sugar, and maple syrup for cattle, chickens, wildberries, and potatoes. We still have preserved space food. So we'll focus on cultivating some crops in the greenhouse. There is another nation that promised tea and bath salts. However there are rumblings of possible war between the Hololive and Nijisanji pantheons. Best we can do is keep our ear on the ground and avoid conflict when we can.

>>19826046

I think I'm better at writing lore as dialogues or journal/log entries. If anyone else from /nasa/ wants to write a journal entry then go ahead. I know its hard to believe in Sana because of the schizo blackpillers right now. Would like to hear opinions of space farmers and engineers.

>>19859364
I always knew that the Anya-Petra global was the Gran Colombia of /vt/ I just hope it doesn't end like Gran Colombia did in real life.

>>19861191
My world history is rusty. What happened to Gran Columbia?

>>19861191
I blame Simon Bolivar's dreams of a united state instead of a federated one. Austria-Hungary would've survived and federated if the prince wasn't assassinated.

>>19862062
>Columbia
>With a "u"
Im going to lose it.
Gran Colombia was a project by Simón Bolívar that was the union between Ecuador, Colombia, and Venezuela, it was a massive failure and broke up very quickly.

>>19862394
Apologies for the typo. I'm exhausted today.

>>19826046
New Kronie lore

>Kropium
https://rentry.org/rs6xy
>Kronii Milk Origins
https://rentry.org/ckmzk
>Rogue Factions
https://rentry.org/bvhm2

>>19863388
Any word on accepting polished meteorites as treasure yet?

>>19833618
We will take refugees .

>>19863515
Letting the poll run its course, but as it stands most Kronies are in favor of only trading clockwork to our allies.

>>19863597
A little late in the response. Read the anchored Principal's log. /nasa/ Station will be closed for a while.

>>19863912
In other words no defense pact no trade. I really would like bath salts from /rose/ for morale but we need gearboxes for grinders and mixers. The defense pact would bar me from trading with Niji nations.

>>19863962
Yeah I was back reading, whoops
>>19864481
I-is /rose/ threatening to end trade if you ally with us? We still trade to /yeah/ without issue

>>19864481
>>19864788
I don't recall threatening to end any trades? We're fine to trade with surface walkers, so if there's any issues with the deal it's likely on /nasa/'s end.

>>19864788
No /rose/ is friendly with everyone. /rose/ is a Niji country. I'm afraid we'll have to pick sides in a Niji-Holo war. The defense pact is being considered. The schizo raid in last /nasa/ thread was bad. They were even trying to false flag a Niji conflict.

>>19865067
Good to know! By the way, I like your guys' lore and one of you is well liked in our thread. We're open to trade if you're interested

>>19865233
Feels that depends on whether the split will take sides along the corporate lines if such a war actually happens, instead of just being contained to the catalog wasteland between some of the more militant or schizo-infested generals.

>>19865067
Would you like some cocoa? We probably have spices and fruits too!

>>19865067
We still want to trade. /nasa/ thought they were raided by Nijis when it was false flagging schizos. So they're wary of interacting with Niji countries.

>>19865233
You guys too, huh? Take all the time you need. I don't there'll be a real holo-niji war, bite if there is, do take into account bath salts don't serve well in the battlefield

>>19825976
HOI4 and or Vicky2 or hell I'll even take a Ck2 mod when?

>>19865484
vicky would probably fit more. something like BAI or a lighter mod too.

Oh geez I feel all official and stuff, writing lore and commencing trades. This is nice!
>>19865298
Aw sweet, thanks! I'm not really sure what we could offer each other, but we're totally willing! We've got plenty of products for skincare, bathing, etc. if you're interested in those. Oh, and Rosestones, but those are pretty valuable to us.
>>19865407
Cocoa, spices, and fruit all sound nice! We're happy to offer you the same items we're offering to other places, if you're interested.
>>19865422
Ohh, fair enough. I'm sorry that put you guys on edge... I hope our quality products can put you at ease though!

>>19865447
That is true. However /nasa/ has weak bones from living in a near zero-g environment. And in space you can't take baths. Only showers. So the bath salts would be therapeutic for our laborers soaking in hot water after work.

>>19865782
Disregarding skewed priorities - I think survival is more important than therapeutic baths, personally - I believe you're worrying over nothing. It appears there's no war brewing. Perhaps the schizos have gotten to you. Have some bread, relax, and clear your head.

>>19865782
Weak bones means that milk is necessary, as an offer to every nation, /who/ sells good quality milk from our cattle.

>>19865747
I'll ask my thread about the details, but it should be good relationship is more important than whether the deal is fair in a collaborative project like this after all
Since rosebutas have a seemingly expansive underground tunnel network as home, I imagine there'll probably be quite a lot of minerals being mined out as byproducts of the process. Maybe we can see what kinds of rocks you will get once the climatebro has time to do the tectonic analysis in the area.

>>19865782
isn't soaking in hot water basically the same as bath? Well, if anything, it makes bathing all the more important for /nasa/, since I imagine some with especially weak bones would like to spend more time floating in water to reduce the stress gravity has on their bones. Maybe /rose/ even have some medicinal products that can help I that regard. Besides, quality of life is an important part of maintaining morale.

>>19865747
Yeah it's nice isn't it
Duly noted. Infinity currently has, er, unique things for trade and some advanced technology for allies

>>19862394
Don't forget the fact that Simon Bolivar basically gave up trying to govern the Gran Colombia and died from sickness while leaving for Europe. And before he could even be put in tomb all the caudillos in Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador were more than happy to declare the Gran Colombia dead and declare secession of their countries.
The only way I can see this happening in the Anya-Petra global is if the Pentomos or the "insert name of Anya's fanbase here" get to uppity and decide to split their global forever, only to realize that they cannot survive alone and now their countries are poor and filled with narcos, and drugs and /meat/ guerrillas and shit.

>>19865968
If only you knew how bad things really are. Imagine dropping spoiled zoomer kids in the American Revolution days where there's no luxury. That is what /nasa/ is dealing with.
/nasa/ is not like the cultures that were born into this world. Its complicated.

>>19866206
I'm still trying to get /nasa/ used to eating red meat. Grinding the meat into hamburger helps, but most of us never eaten real animal meat before. We also have to be careful with eating too much sugar. The gravity makes everyone hungrier.

>>19867037
Regardless of your decision, Infinity opens her arms to you spacemen. And if if helps, we'll be praying for you...

>>19866454
There was an attempt at an "Anya global" but it couldn't sustain itself because it was manned by tribalfags from both sides. I opened that thread and they were blasting Anya and Petra between their senseless bump posts.

Bump

Bump

>>19825976
The map should have correlate with popularity, with russhia recently went on a total collapse.

>>19861050
Personally i love those kinds of lore bits the best, since you can incorporate the thoughts of an individual from a group. Makes it more real for me, IDK hard to explain, sleepy brain can't english.

Also, if you feel like those might get the creative juices flowing the best, i vote in favour of future /nasa/ lore being written in that format, hell i might even cook up some myself.

>>19861050
The Takeus /meat/ronie is one of my faves, and it was done in that style. Would love to see one for /nasa/

>>19865747
I asked the thread, and so far they seem open to the idea of trading for skincare and bathing products although it might be better if you don't ask too deep about where we use said products, although we would also be interested in trading for minerals once we know more about what /rose/ can get from the ground. Would you like a list of what spices and fruits we might have for trade?

Republic Owl / Respublika Filin / Republique Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
On economics, resources, goods production, and industry.

Due to the violent beginnings of the Republic, formed in the middle of war and conflict, the impressive and fast mobilization had influenced the Republic to produce cheap and reliable goods to feed and arm its needs, all the while also funding research and development to aid in the mass production directed for the harsh conditions of the wars. Once the wars were over after the Republic managed to fully secure itself, it still mantained its preference for cheap and reliable, as can be observed from the cloth infustry that exists, you most certainly won't find high quality cloth, but instead a large amount of cheaper products that will do the job right.
The Republic's first economic sector is made up of agricultural produce that has been addresed in a previous document, and the mining sector, as the large amount of hills and woods of the land allow for it. Of these, iron, coal, aluminium, and some amounts of potassium are the main ores drilled from the mines. These resources are then brought to manufacturing centers where they will be processed by the smiths.
Steel working has sped up recently in order to sustain the Republic's growing infrastructure and as an export to trade. The previously mentioned cloth industry, also referred to as the textiles industry has a solid economic base due to its importance, and is currently growing. The shipmaking markets and the ports are constantly working thanks to growing naval investment in part of the Republic, it also takes care of assisting the Hoshiyomia navy in its duties and providing logistics aid to them. Alcoholic beverages are produced and sold in the nation, of particular note is the one made from fermenting potatoes, originally starting from a moonshine operation to raise funds, it got nationalized and turnt into a state controlled industry to avoid further issues relating to legality, another popular alcoholic beverage is beer made from wheat, the mountain monks tend to enjoy the drinks a lot despite the differences with their own traditional drinks, so they are big buyers for it.
Cans of food and the canning industry, originally for military use only, is now being repurposed for civilian and economic use as a way to ensure the safety of food across large distances, most popular with soldiers are the famed canned potatoes and meat.
The arms industry is somewhat large, as the Republic had it as a priority for much time, however, with the relaxation of militarism in the country, weapons are mainly left in stockpile and not sold away, with almost no arms trade taking place unless it is with direct allies such as Hoshiyomia.
Trading agreements with the druids of /uuu/ are difficult to do as they are very self sufficient, but the free movement of goods across their territory means that the Republic still ends up as the main trader in the area.
While you may not think so, the Republic holds a very advanced national newspaper and is the main paper producer of the region, even if the printing presses that are used are faulty and prone to breakdowns, this has lead to a widespread hate for printing presses and the difficulties of dealing with them by the population.

This is a very basic text, I'll eventually think of more things to add. Things are always subject to change as always, but this will be the main structure of the economy from now on.

ANCHORING
>>19826046

>>19874100
Hold on, who were you guys at war with, exactly?

Which ending do you like?

>>19875937
/ybc/ with gods sounds comfy

>>19875977
So yubicraft victory is just eternal minecraft with the chuuba gods visiting over?
Blessed

>>19875937
It's this but bloodier;
Post-holosanji sengoku wars

>>19875937
clearly the world dominated by hags and brats

>>19876253
>5 houses
Tsunderia, Phase, Kawaii, Prism, Cyberlive?

nasfaq should be some kind of an oldschool non-enlightened merchant republic led by patrician guilds. Barbarian tourism and drive-by posters are their greatest enemy since it humiliate of the many cliques running the trade league

>>19864481
>The defense pact would bar me from trading with Niji nations.
What? /inf/ has a trade deal with /yeah/
Why would a defense pact void trade with certain corpos?

>>19875937
some of the art picked is really nice. like the wasteland for /hfz/ war and the melancholic buildings to represent small corpos surviving a holoniji apocalypse

Since nasfaq is a rather decentralized state with most of it's plutocrats acting independently or semi-independently, how would trade deals and agreements between nations work when they concern nasfaq?

>>19865233
>>19865422
Could these be the same schizos who falseflagged /infinity/?

>>19876814
It could be. And I think it's the same guy/s insisting /who/ forced Hoshiyomia and /uuu/ into the current land agreements

>>19875937
/Here/ gods assumes control since its essentially a continuation of my threads lore

>>19876802
I imagine the trade deals will be conducted with said plutocrats instead of the hypothetical /nasfaqg/ state.

>>19877351
>timeline where Kiki and her Champyon SS took over /vt/
AAAAAAAA

>>19878517
Is /pyon/ active in this thread?

>>19877511
Precisely. You'd likely deal with individual plutocrats or joint-venture companies lesser traders form.
Extreme decentralization would mean that /nasfaqg/'s capital (and goods) flows very freely and depends on the nature of individual plutocrats, who usually also visit their 'home' thread, although not always as some emigrated permanently and stay within the nation itself.
This combined with near-precognitive recognition of potential profits (by number autism, harnessing the FLOW, or powerful boof) would likely mean that if a gold rush were to happen somewhere, then before gov't could pass laws or even have their officials arrive on the site, there will likely already be a /nasfaqg/ plutocrat-sponsored mining town and banking/investment schemes.

>>19875937
Algocracy or Earthly Paradise

>>19879063
/pyon/ is almost precisely 35 people at any given time so I doubt it.
>>19876322
Sounds about right.

>>19879394
Yeah, but I vaguely remember Kiki knowing about this thread and has asked for an island back then. Did they stick around afterwards?

Is the infinity island an extinct volcano or not? I recall it having been discussed at some point but I dont think there ever was confirmation for it?

>/uoh/ victory ending
Uoooohhh!!! Everyone turned into lolis and shotas!

>>19879063
No we're not, but we do like this whole thing you got here, we are working on some lore occasionally and yes an island would be nice.

>>19881263
Glad to hear that! About the island thing, though, there might be a misunderstanding. I meant to say I remember /pyon/ (I think from Kiki herself?) asking for an island. I don't mean to ask if /pyon/ want an island, since the land has more or less been finalised already.

>>19881377
You remember correctly and ogey :(

>>19881393
Sorry about that. I hope that won't dissuade you from working on lore otherwise.

>>19881393
>>19881449
Maybe /pyon/ can make a small island north of their coast? Small enough to not fuck over the climate, but big enough to have living space for their own goddess

>>19881449
>>19881536
I think Kiki had an issue with some of our neighborhood, I haven't really looked at the map myself. I'll get back to you on that but don't worry about it.

>>19881536
Considering the last time this thread fights over adding an island on the map, I don't think that'll go over too well, unfortunately. You might have a better chance asking /nina/ for that island. Since they don't seem to care about this thread, you might be able to get the greenlight for having their island.

>>19881592
Good luck, champyon
>>19881607
Ehh, the thread majority was in favor of that island. The shitstorm started because of Neufag didn't agree, a dedicated schizo riled up infinity, and kronies biting the bait. I'm sure most of us here would let /pyon/ have a tiny island if it wasn't disruptive

>>19881689
I'm not as optimistic, but if /pyon/ really wants to contribute but that hinges on the island, I guess I won't be against it myself.

>>19876344
>their gaze of contempt looking over blatant act of homosexuality

>>19881689
none of those anons, but since you are the infinity rep, could you answer >>19880670 ?

>>19880670
>>19881738
Honestly never even noticed this was discussed before. It's not currently in our lore, nor were we told about it when we got our island. As far as I know it's just a mountain.

Maybe someone could do tectonic analysis like some others asked for.

>>19876073
>>19875937
/ybc/ is already visited by the gods, but them being permanent would be the greatest gift but also a terrible curse.
Everyone would be able to travel to our country for pilgrimage and to interact directly with their Lords, which may cause severe damage to this Holy Land.

In the meantime, we are happy with our gods descending every once in a while, walking among us either disguised or in their full glory!
We have 2 goddess of /pcg/ visiting tonight, in fact.
All the arrangements and cleansening of the land have been made to show tribute, and /pcg/ pilgrims have already made their way to the Phase province, in the eastern side of our island.
Worshippers have already gathered and prepared the rituals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlaemHxqBM

>>19881836
I recall your mapmaker mentioning that someone in /infinity/ asked for the lake to be added in the middle of the mountain so that the island could be an extinct volcano. On the map the lake looks very much like an example of a volcanic crater lake.

I am asking for the purposes of the tectonic analysis. Whether the island has history of volcanism or not and more specifically, of what type of volcanism, is of some importance.

Backreading because I've been busy for the last few days
>>19809781
Part of the folklore of /morig/ is that Mt. Mori may experience a cataclysmic eruption, but it's (probably) not going to happen.

>>19882204
>>19875937
Oh, it's right there too
I'm blind, gomen

>>19881836
>>19882087
Oh, and if the island is volcanic in origin, then it is somewhat important to know whether the volcano(s) are still active or not.
If the area is highly active then due to the position of the island an oceanic ridge could run through the area think: Iceland, or Japan, sort of
If the area is no longer active or is only slightly active, but still has history of volcanism, the island could have formed due to a hotspot think: hawaii, but bigger, although for this a series of islands would be expected to have formed nearby.
If the island has no history of recent volcanic activity, then it could exist in the middle of its own tectonic plate think: madacascar, sort of

>>19882087
>>19882356
I was the map maker and the original request was to just have a deep mountain lake.
How would the fact that the island is almost 1000km in length play into this?

I personally thought we just settled on a spring, but I guess it's still up in the air.

>>19882356
I don't think the whole island will be volcanic, given how big the whole thing is.

>>19882416
Well it makes the hotspot option more implausible but not entirely impossible I guess.
Spring or some sort of a seasonal glacier-lake system could also explain the lake, yeah.

>>19882430
That depends on how the island formed I think. Japan and Iceland are pretty big and they are both volcanic

>>19882087
I'll go poll infinity about that, thank you for letting me know!
>>19882021
Good day, /ybc/. Infinity and /yeah/ have overcome the falseflag incident and resumed trading. I hope your nation and ours are on good terms at least?

Is this a Ring of Fire?

>>19882663
If risu, towa, and mep AND/OR amelia watson, ggg and hirys are made extremely volcanic, then maybe
Looking at all the islands and mountains in neutral and niji continents, my personal placement for the ring of fire or its equivalent would be there

>>19882566
/inf/ is quite a bit bigger than Japan, though.

>>19882581
Our allegiance is to our trade partners, so if /yeah/ has deemed your nantion a friend again, we respect that and move forth to aknowledge your existance.

However due to recent events, /ybc/ requires a visa from Kronies who may want to do pilgrimage to their shrines up north of our island, simply as a way to ensure no wrongdoers come seeking to tarnish your image, which you have worked fairly to restore.

>>19882995
Not by a significant enough amount as far as my understanding goes. Volcanism has created larger structures (Like the Siberian Traps)

>>19883083
Done deal, /ybc/. The Kronies are always on top of their papers, anyhow.

>>19881607
I wouldn't mind /pyon/ having the island as a /nina/ resident. Considering /gorls/ is not really a part of the /vt/ landscape for a while, I'd vote for /nina/ and /ccu/ to split it as Nina herself is friends(or at least friendly) with a lot of /ccu/ chuubas.

Bumpity boppity boo

>>19826046
Kronies are fans of the arts. Some freely publish their written works and encourage other people to come and bring their work over to our lands. This can be the case for written works, plays, paintings, and even pornography. /Infinity/ is so artistically expressive that some residents of other countries come here to present their works, including deadbeats and brat monks. Our Takeshi ancestors believed that writing about the goddesses meant you were blessed by them, leading to the Kronie culture centered around writing about the Kroniissiah.

>>19826046
Military and Police Units of Infinity

>Infantry
Represent average posters. Conscripts and recruits, these serve as the backbone of the army. They are armed with bolt-action rifles with bayonets, and are trained to stay mobile and in loose formations, using their rifles to pick off enemies from a distance - the bayonets are only for when the enemy approaches. They are also trained in manning field cannons. They wear blue coats and simple helmets.

>Vanguard
Represent the Kronii Love ritual posters. Recruits chosen for zeal and willpower to lead the charge in battle. They are rationed Kronii Milk before battle to boost their senses. They are equipped with bolt-action rifles with bayonets and usually kept in loose formation, firing as they charge before using the bayonets as melee weapons. They wear breastplates over their blue coats. Will yell "I LOVE KRONII!", "KRONII LOVE!", and similar war cries.

>Officers
Represent bread bakers. Experienced soldiers who command units of infantry and vanguard. The soldiers wait on their command before battle, no matter what. They are armed with decorated bolt-action rifles and sabres, and are kept close to the lines of the infantry. They wear tall hats to signify rank and direct attention from the soldiers.

>Beserkers
Represent /meat/ronies. Mercenaries from the southern seas hired for their ferocity and brutality in up-close fights. They are often rationed refined Kronii Milk to boost their strength and endurance. They are equipped with bladed and blunt weapons traditional to their people, and are usually made to charge enemy formations that have been loosened by infantry or vanguard. They wear black coats in Kronie style, breastplates, and muzzles to prevent biting.

>Bluemen Corps
Represent chumronies and krunnyposters. Soldiers specially trained as sailors to act as marines, defending ports of Infinity and her allies, as well as aboard ships for deployment in combat zones. They are trained to man the guns and machinery of kronie ships, as well as deploy from steamboats unto the field. When off duty, they are known to enjoy the company of young women wherever they're stationed. They're armed with bolt-action rifles and falchions. They wear blue shirts, of a lighter shade than most military uniforms, and white caps.

>Enforcers
Represent sexposters. Police officers recruited to defend the streets from crime. They ride bicycles and patrol the streets, and have rudimentary sirens that sound like someone yelling about sex. They are armed with batons and wear blue coats and black caps.

>Peacekeepers
Represent kronies who sexpost Kiara to deter schizos. Enforcers selected for counter-rebellion operations within Kronie territory. They wear specialized "phoenix down" coats developed by Infinity using phoenix feathers traded from KFP; the coats are fire-resistant and worn to defend against rebel arsonists armed with fire bombs. They are armed with newly-designed short-barreled lever-action rifles for quick and close encounters in the streets of Infinity. Their coats are a bright orange to draw attention away from civilians.

>>19826046
Military and Police Units of Infinity

>Infantry
Represent average posters. Conscripts and recruits, these serve as the backbone of the army. They are armed with bolt-action rifles with bayonets, and are trained to stay mobile and in loose formations, using their rifles to pick off enemies from a distance - the bayonets are only for when the enemy approaches. They are also trained in manning field cannons. They wear blue coats and simple helmets.

>Vanguard
Represent the Kronii Love ritual posters. Recruits chosen for zeal and willpower to lead the charge in battle. They are rationed Kronii Milk before battle to boost their senses. They are equipped with bolt-action rifles with bayonets and usually kept in loose formation, firing as they charge before using the bayonets as melee weapons. They wear breastplates over their blue coats. Will yell "I LOVE KRONII!", "KRONII LOVE!", and similar war cries.

>Officers
Represent bread bakers. Experienced soldiers who command units of infantry and vanguard. The soldiers wait on their command before battle, no matter what. They are armed with decorated bolt-action rifles and sabres, and are kept close to the lines of the infantry. They wear tall hats to signify rank and direct attention from the soldiers.

>Beserkers
Represent /meat/ronies. Mercenaries from the southern seas hired for their ferocity and brutality in up-close fights. They are often rationed refined Kronii Water to boost their strength and endurance. They are equipped with bladed and blunt weapons traditional to their people, and are usually made to charge enemy formations that have been loosened by infantry or vanguard. They wear black coats in Kronie style, breastplates, and muzzles to prevent biting.

>Bluemen Corps
Represent chumronies and krunnyposters. Soldiers specially trained as sailors to act as marines, defending ports of Infinity and her allies, as well as aboard ships for deployment in combat zones. They are trained to man the guns and machinery of kronie ships, as well as deploy from steamboats unto the field. When off duty, they are known to enjoy the company of young women wherever they're stationed. They're armed with bolt-action rifles and falchions. They wear blue shirts, of a lighter shade than most military uniforms, and white caps.

>Enforcers
Represent sexposters. Police officers recruited to defend the streets from crime. They ride bicycles and patrol the streets, and have rudimentary sirens that sound like someone yelling about sex. They are armed with batons and wear blue coats and black caps.

>Peacekeepers
Represent kronies who sexpost Kiara to deter schizos. Enforcers selected for counter-rebellion operations within Kronie territory. They wear specialized "phoenix down" coats developed by Infinity using phoenix feathers traded from KFP; the coats are fire-resistant and worn to defend against rebel arsonists armed with fire bombs. They are armed with newly-designed short-barreled lever-action rifles for quick and close encounters in the streets of Infinity. Their coats are a bright orange to draw attention away from civilians.

Suggestion: make a post with "current news" near the top, close to the anchor. Some ideas are /nasa/ preparing for the worst only for good new to come, /who/ annexing /uuu/, and trade deals being made.

>>19826046
Please remove the "PROPOSAL" from the archive on our lore about derived products (https://rentry.org/p7sww)) as it has been finalized with kronies. Thank you!

>>19882995
The scale of this world is bigger than I imagined

>>19887893
isnt it just earth sized?

>>19874477
Uhh right, the current lore is that the Republic rouse very rapidly to fight in a schizo zone, the schizos and the enemies were broken and destroyed by the Republic, tht was mainly what i had in mind. It's one of the things i've still got to flesh out.

>>19886489
>Bolt-action rifles
hold on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_action#History
produced for the first time in 1824, only adopted by the prussian army in 1841.
It was not fielded widely until after the danish war in 1864.
I'm thinking that the mass usage of bolt-action rifles is very disputable.
Also, normally you'd have a dedicated battalion or unit or whatever for manning the field cannons. training entire armies for it is not very feasible.

Steamboats...

Bycicles are interesting, they are far more modern than one might think, the first "modern" bycicle was made in 1886, and that's something that goes beyond the time period.

Lever-actions kind of have the same issue as bolt-action rifles, but they are described as experimental weaponry, so that means it isn't as widely available, also, short barreled sounds neat.
I don't really have any other criticisms

>>19888190
I just imagined the countries being smaller, if that 1:1 picture is accurate.

>>19882087
>>19882356
Hello climate anon, since you're asking for volcano details, I figured I should make sure you know Sakuran's volcano's properties. It's a shield volcano, ~1600m tall, [insert scaled length] wide, and is still fairly active.
>>19887893
Part of the reason I made >>19852474 asking about jp, was to possibly add them as another continent on the other side of the globe. We wouldn't draw them in any detailed form, but it would be the place of origin for the a lot of the civs in the current map.
That jp continent would make up a half or a third of the globe, meaning that our current map and the nations on it would be scaled down and wouldn't be as big. I still think such a continent should be added, to represent not only jp but the rest of 4chan as well, as we often get tourists appearing in our threads during events or drama.
Such an addition could be useful in lore for flavour, that can then be transformed into respective cultural elements. For example, a lot anons were not "born" in vt (only came to vt after it was created/they learned about vtubers, and hadn't visited 4chan earlier), but rather came form other boards (sp, mu, v, jp, d, a, co, tg etc). Those people can say that their family lineage has traces to those lands before the split. If a thread has a substantial number of contributers, or few very active ones, that came from a specific region, it can be said that the nation is especially good/ specialises at whatever that region is (ie mu posters produce music(lol), fa posters produce fashion(lmao) etc). Not sure how the dive grass tournament works exactly, but if there are any sp anons in there, they could claim that their family have been sports club managers/players for centuries or something.
Again, we wouldn't need to draw it (drawing this one map has been enough, I can't even begin to imagine drawing the other boards), but rather just decide on its size. We could even say that due to the split that continent has been censored from all maps, but it's still there.

I'm going to assume there's no petroleum in this world as Chuubanite exists. You'll have to refine Chuubanite into oil if you want anything close to gasoline. That said /nasa/ might rediscover nuclear energy first before gasoline at this rate. And nuclear is 50-100 years away.

>>19889830
Why wouldn't petroleum exist? even if chuubanite does too petroleum would still be there.

>>19889892
It really depends on the world's natural history with how fossil fuels are formed. If Chuubanite is the life blood of the gods then its safe to assume it could replace fossil fuels entirely. If coal and petro exist then they could be natural forms of Chuubanite.

>>19890100
Or they could just exist as coal and oil. that is also a possibility.

>>19890100
Oil is a natural resource, if chuubanite were to replace it, it would still exist, not as natural forms of chuubanite but as they're own unexploited form, depending on how chuubanite works, all that would change is the reasons to use petroleum, not how it's formed.

>>19889183
Not our rep since he's asleep, but /∞/'s tech is mid 1800s, which is perfectly in line for bolt action rifles . And we specifically made sure the rifles don't go beyond a certain technological levels, IE. they aren't magazine fed.
We also voted to avoid more rapid fire repeating rifles like the lever action or recoil, even though recoil is the most clock like, specifically to address 'balance' issues.

>>19890200
>>19890208
I was also thinking that Chuubanite exists naturally in plants and animals, including algae and plankton, that coal and oil would naturally have chuubanite mixed into it. It could also be how /ybc/'s diamonds can be used for tools. Again its just a thought and we still need to figure out if fossil fuels exist. Petro maybe off the table but coal is useable in this age.

>>19890210
tech being mid-1800's was one of the things beincg constantly debated, you know what else is mid-1800's? An ironclad. Bolt action rifles being in mass use like that is not quite as "balanced" as you might think. I'm fine with them being on more limited numbers or dedicated for specific units that are harder to replace.

>>19890542
Unless you're reviving the debate, I was under the impression that it was solved. And Ironiclads were settled as well, outside of a vocal minority. And like the ironclad, the bolt action is balanced, by not incorporating magazines, making the reload process is much slower.
And again, we already self nerfed ourselves by choosing model with the slowest rate of fire.
The bolt action requires four distinct movements to load each round. This makes it much slower compared to other repeating rifles like the pump action and lever action, which both only requires two movements.
Moreover, the trigger hand must abandon the gun and the weapon after each shot to operate the bolt. Since the trigger hand leaves the gun, you’ll have to regrip the gun after each shot. This also means the shooter would have to change sight and acquire the target again after every shot.

>>19890887
I'm bringing up ironclads to explain how things had to be nerfed for them to even exist, also, comparing bolt actions to pump and lever is senseless considering the technology barely exists in the world, I'm fine with bolt-actions being there, it's something that has historical precedent, but not on how every soldier seems to have one when that wouldn't even be accomplished until after the franco-prussian war. Also, here's another question, do you have smokeless gunpowder?

Where does /horni/ falls?

>>19892317
/horni/ is next to /ringo/

>>19889752
According to the Before Times lore, /jp/ is a different dimension. The great flood like disaster of this world is when the realm of /jp/ forcibly had some kind of dimensional abortion baby that is /vt/ where all chuuba worshippers are sent to

>>19891215
Actually the ironclad are allowed to be used without nerfs. Originally they were to use clockwork technology, but that was reverted back to steam technology after we got more information on naval steam technology of the era and the introduction of Chuubanite. So that's a very bad comparison. Also we could have access to any of the other firearms listed, but we're keeping it to would be the most balanced.

As for your specific example for the Dreyse gun, it was first designed in 1836 and adopted for military production in 1841. there were multiple reasons why it wasn't as widely adopted until the end of the mid 1800s. Mainly because it wasn't produced fast enough to meet the demand and the military budget at the time was also prohibited. If you removed those retrains, it would have seen complete use after the German revolutions of 1848–49 where it first proved it's worth. And even with the shortages. over 60% of the Persian army had Dreyse guns by the Austro-Prussian War, so they weren't limited use fire arms.
Furthermore, we aren't the Prussians so attempting to push 1 for 1 allegories would be wholly without merit.

Also if you're trying to lie a trap with smokeless gunpowder because it's late 19th century. I'm going to pull a turnabout on you to further balance our weapons. We're still using black gunpowder, which has the obvious drawbacks which further shows they're balanced.

So the bolt action rifles are within proper time, uses technology within the time, and choices were made to nerf its effectiveness.

>>19882021
>the gods are visiting /ybc/
I kneel

>>19875937
So which HOI4 mod theme fits /vt/?
https://youtu.be/V0sQmjYyaZs
https://youtu.be/8TiagQlR1Yo
https://youtu.be/72unElnpiXc

Hey look! It's /infinity/!
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Цopиoнoв,_Дмитpий_Cepгeeвич

>>19896007
Goddamnit the link messed up
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%94%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

>>19896239
Anon, it's in russian

>>19896007
>Энтéo
>/∞/
хaхaхaхaхaхaхaхa!
пoмнят ли люди eщe этoгo чeлoвeкa?

We have Russians? Uh oh, I apologize in advance for any butchering I do to you guys while making /rose/.

/nasa/ should have the first crop ready by the end of the week. This includes processing of crops. Which means next Monday goods will be ready to ship. Also /nasa/ hand made some breads including whole wheat loafs, buns, snickerdoodle cookies (or biscuits), and pancakes.

>>19897389
dont fret much. besides, im a kronie so you guys do what you love

>>19866249
>>19873163
Just realized I never gave these a response. I'll happily take a list of whatever you guys are trading, then we can go from there if you want?

>>19904034
Can /nasa/ give rose piggie a cookie?

https://youtu.be/6zbsUtQL4nY

>>19905515
THAT'S SO CUTE! We'd love cookies!

>>19882356
>>19882787
>>19880670
To the tectonic and geographical anon. If we were to build canals to connect various oceans to make trade faster, which areas and countries would they be best located in?

It would be a nice game changer for any country where the canal can be located since they become a trade route hub.

>>19906198
There's also a risk of canals being prime targets of war. Which side controls the canals will control the supply lines.

>>19906198
Some quick thoughts
The oceans of this planet are so well connected by natural straits there isn't much point in building massive canals, unless you want access to inland regions and rivers.

>>19908357
The closest we've had a canal spark a war in real life was the Suez Crisis, but that was a political disaster for the belligerents.
I assume any canal built won't be in contested territory and if a country tries to invade specifically to take control of the canal, it would be condemned by the rest of the world, or start a world war.

>>19908703
Wouldn't the canal in NijiEN contaminate their fresh water supply, specifically the river? IIRC there was an abandoned canal project where that was the big problem.

>>19908821
>he is unaware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama

>>19908969
There is a risk for that yes, but I doubt the canal and the lake are their only source of fresh water. Groundwater and wells exist afterall, in addition to many small lakes, ponds, springs, and rivers that are likely too small to be marked in the map.

>>19909007
I was aware of this conflict, but the US was already there as part of the treaty, so I'd consider it a matter between the two countries rather than a war by a third party to take control of the canal.

>>19908703
>Not worth it
>Sailing through I" will tax you 300% per ship" island and el pirata coven with your precious cargo is preferable.
Idk man.

>>19909084
That's still a pretty decent sized lake, so I would be worried about the ecological impact along with drinking water supply. But this is the 1700's, so maybe people aren't that forward thinking.

>>19909677
I just realized that if you build that canal, it's specially to avoid those two countries.
But given how close it would be to /ahoy/ it might spark a conflict.

>>19908703
Why would the Ame Canal only be worth while going westerward?

And wouldn't the Risu canal allow ships to circumvent having to travel through neutral, niji and some hololive territory? Or is it just the issue there isn't much on the eastern side to justify it's cost and construction?

>>19909677
taxing 300% would be bad business, smart merchants have very affordable prices. Perhaps passing through is free, and the nasfags gain their profits from selling you and your crew more stuff and/or providing them with entertainment while you are parked there. I hear the locals are really into gambling, and since the place doesnt have a central government (meaning very liberal laws), nasfaqg could very well turn into some sort of a amsterdam / las vegas sort of place.
No need to charge you for passage when your crew gambles, drinks, and fucks their month's wages away.

As for Ahoy, have they been established as a pirate kingdom and if yes, do you really think pirates would refrain from raiding your ships just because you used a canal a few dozen kilometers north of their border?

>>19909677
If there's anything that /nasfaqg/ hates more than taxes, it's taxes on goods.

Payment for passage will likely be nominal and include protection on the hazardous waters around the area (part of the profits given to /ahoy/ privateers and corsairs bought by the plutocrats), but more importantly every ship would be forced to stop for some time and present their goods for sale for three days (or so). This procedure (aka. Staple, from Staple Rights) could be waived at a fee, but with /nasfaqg/'s capital, warehouses, and amenities, it'd likely be just a formality since ships would want to stop there to rest and trade either way.

>>19910114
>do you really think pirates would refrain from raiding your ships just because you used a canal a few dozen kilometers north of their border?
There's a difference between forcing them to come after you and being forced to travel around their entire country where they can ambush you at their leisure.
Also given how close they are to Nijisanji, wouldn't that encourage the Niji nations to annex the ahoy territory in lazu and nijimale/2434 or just declare war? Especially if /ahoy/ is willing to violate the waters of a fellow hololive country?

>>19910086
Pic rel for ame canal.

For the risu canal, it's not that it wouldnt be useful, its that the landmass there is large, too large for the canal to be worth the effort. If the scale in >>19882995 is right, then /risu/ would be more massive than Japan. Digging a canal through Japan with 1700s tech would be a pretty insurmountable task.

I wonder if it'd be possible for /nasa/ to engineer air gliders. They don't need combustion engines to fly. Just lots of air and luck.

>>19912574
they can of course, they got the technology. The fragile bones might be problem tho

A Legend from the Kronie Faith
(or, why we are paranoid about sharing our technology)

10,000 years ago, our Goddess Kronii ruled our nation directly. She walked among us. She loved us dearly and bestowed gifts to us. With her gifts, we achieved wonders that others could only dream of. Our nation was a great nation.
However, some gods became jealous of our Goddess Kronii and our great nation. They sought to destroy us but they could not take on our Goddess head on. So they schemed and created the demon Cort'an. Slowly but surely the demon possessed tools, given to us by our Goddess Kronii, one by one undetected. Through those tools, Cort'an whispered evils into the unsuspecting people's ears and they were seduced away from our Goddess Kronii.
When Cort'an thought she had seduced enough of the population, she attacked our Goddess. Her very own people, with a blessed spear gifted from the Goddess, that breathed fire and spit lead, shot the unsuspecting Goddess in the back. It caused great grief to our Goddess Kronii and she shed a tear. However, when the tear landed on the ground, the corruption in the vicinity was cleansed.
Realizing what had happened, our Goddess Kronii burned in righteous fury and drew her divine swords, Tick and Tock and walked out into the open. She commanded Cort'an to come out of hiding. Cort'an obliged. She wielded the stolen spear in her hands. Cort'an thought that she had the upper hand since she had a divine weapon and the Goddess was injured. But the demon was mistaken and she was no match for our Goddess even with a gaping wound in her back. Our Goddess Kronii vanquished the demon Cort'an.
Although she had won, the fight was brutal and the Goddess was gravely wounded. She had to return to the heavens to heal or she would die. However, even in such dire moments, our Goddess Kronii worried about her people. For her last command, she ordered Ouroboros to encircle our nation and sleep in the depths of the ocean, to wake up when our nation needs protection from other gods who might seek to destroy us again. And so our Goddess Kronii returned to the heavens but her love remains with us.

What kronies usually learn from this myth:
Kronies believe in the supremacy of our goddess.
Kronies believe our technology is a gift from our goddess.
Kronies believe in an external enemy that seeks to destroy us and our goddess.
Kronies believe technology in the wrong hands will be used to destroy us and our goddess.
Kronies believe our goddess's bodily fluids have great power.
Kronies believe the betraying our goddess through apostasy is an unforgivable act of treachery and such individuals should be punished severely.

>>19912918
Anchoring
>>19826046

can chuubas be represented as living, normal humans? or are they strictly omnipresent deities?

>>19913179
as both i guess, but the world is very strictly a representation of /here/, not anything outside, keep that in mind.

What's /infinity/'s opinions on the other Council pantheon? /nasa/ sees Council as friends of Sana. So they're open to talking with other Council Pantheon nations.

>>19913390
We consider them friends, and at times lovers, of the Kroniissiah (the latter is hotly debated, but that has not stopped some of our notable poets and authors throughout history)

>>19913456
Yes, /nasa/ does have lewd digital artwork of Sana. They even have lewd artwork of other council members.

>>19913571
Most interesting! Kronies descend from Takeshi nomads, so we are always interested in such depictions of the divine

>>19910648
I know /awat/ has made a few posts here, but has /risu/ made any presence in the general or not, it sort of directly relates to them, we should probably send them an invitation

>>19914716
>Takeshi nomads
Funny how you managed to live on an island. So gearbox comissions are a no go without a defense pact. Cabbages might spoil on the voyage to /nasa/. So we're just going to have to figure out some form of refridgeration system to ship perishable crops in. I suppose we could build refridgerators when we get our quarry up and running. Though we'll have to figure out a design that doesn't require a fuel source to keep cool.

>>19826046
Infinity has decided. It no longer wishes to be but fearful isolationists, closed off from the world, but wishes to extend a hand to all nations of the globe. We offer defense pacts and military alliances with our neighbors as well as all countries that worship the friends of the Kroniissiah. We especially extend this offer to /who/, /rrat/, and /nasa/. We offer to trade our clockwork technology to these potential allies.

Given the spacemen's dire situation, Infinity is willing to trade technology with /nasa/ even without any alliance or pact, until they are in a comfortablr position to defend themselves and choose if they wish to ally with us, in the future.

We hope to appear more open to trade with all nations of the world, because we are ready to do so. Thank you for your time.

>>19915765
that kind of throws your reasons for tech advantage out the window now.

Speaking of refridgeration... I wonder if /nasa/ can have enough infrastructure to make dry ice. Could be a product of our essential food preservation system. Though without a proper way to store dry ice it might not be useable in long voyages.

>>19915416
We'll be making a special offer for you, see >>19915765.
>>19915840
We only extend that special offer to /nasa/, and we trust them to use it well. All others must first prove loyal allies. And infinity will continue to develop our technology further.

>>19915840
Given how much the rest of the world hates/ inf/, if they start a war, it would end very badly for them.

>>19916280
And that's a big if. Again we have no more interest in warfare than any other nation. We only want to start peaceful dialogues and enter mutually beneficial relationships.

We want very much to move away from the image of us as paranoid, self serving, and vitriolic xenophobes.

>>19916004
>>19916722
We are going to have to speak with /who/ as well. /who/ really wants some of /nasa/'s technology for modern bakeries. If we have to trade technology for technology then we really have to assess what we can and can't share with our prime directive. Things like fuel making are out of the question. There's also a risk of our inventions for food inspiring inventions for weapons. It wouldn't be fair to trade technology with /infinity/ and not give anything to /who/.

>>19917164
Wonderful!

>>19917164
We're open to you trading technology for technology with both infinity and /who/. Our special offer only extends to you, though, because of your bleak circumstances. It is the hope of kronies and myself personally for all of us to be friends.

>>19917249
What /nasa/ is looking for is gear boxes to build mixers and blenders with. The mixers and blenders will either be hand cranked or water/wind powered. By water and wind we mean purely mechanical energy. No coal or oil required. Though you'll need oil too keep the gears from rusting. The mixers will be useful for cooking and chemistry.

>>19917203
If you give us land to build bakeries keep in mind these bakeries will not be as advanced as our kitchens on the station. Food still has to be hand make with hand tools, use a windmill, or a water wheel. Bakeries will have brick ovens. We do have designs for wood-burning cooking ranges if your blacksmiths are skilled enough. They can in theory be made by hand. But some pieces, especially smaller ones, will be very difficult to forge by hand.

>>19917795
One more thing to note. All we ask is for you to make the parts. We will handle assembling the parts together. We have polished meteorite for commodities, but can scrap some gold if necessary. And royalties of profits will be paid as well. In /who/'s case the bakeries will pay land taxes with profits. If gods are willing we can process dry ice and use them to chill food in ice houses. If there's any objections then now is a good time to voice them.

>>19917795
/nasa/ will recieve enough land and capital to kickstart their baking operation, high quality food is desired by all in the world.

>>19918026
The wood-burning range is very nifty. It lets you make food in cast iron skillets while keeping campfires in a box. You still need a very thick quilted mitt to touch the pans.

>>19904034
Glad to hear that! The list ended up a bit longer than I expected, but this should include most things /meat/ can harvest from the land and sea.
https://rentry.org/au94a
Those with * are abundant and thus can be exported at a significant quantity, while those with ? might have a lower supply unless there is a major demand for them (since I don't want to be one of those people in worldbuilding that says "I have everything").
Many of the woods we produce have an appealing appearance (admittedly subjective), and things like aloe, coral and pearl might be of /rose/'s interest as well.

The thing that /nasa/ is wary of trading cacao from /meat/ is the use of blood as fertilizer. The spacemen always wear suits because they have air filters to filter out airborne diseases. Personally I would say "fuck it" and remove the helmet. However /nasa/ as a thread agreed that we have to wear space suits at all times. So I can't go against their wishes.

Also apologies to /meat/ but Sana is not graduating. She just has back problems. So no space goddess feast this time.

>>19920034
Is the concern of morality in nature, or is it over the possibility of the cacao containing some kind of unusual pathogen due to its use?
As for the graduation rrat, all in due time... Jokes aside, I'm happy for you, since I know how hard it feels to lose your oshi.

>>19920344
Its disease mostly. Biology says the humans of this world are genetically similar to us at /nasa/. Therefore we will be prone to whatever diseases you will be infected with. In fact the diseases will be 10 times worse as /nasa/ has very little immunity due to living in a sterile environment for most if not all of their lives. We re-use the ashes of our dead for fertilizer and other things I am not allowed to know.

>>19920862
In that case, it might help to know that cacao is usually dried and fermented before being shipped, so even if we assume pathogens in the blood (and other human bits for that matter) manage to survive in the plants, the process should be able to eliminate them. If /nasa/ is still concerned about them surviving the process, it is always possible to have chocolate production facilities in /meat/ as well, roasting and grinding the beans into nibs or finished chocolate before shipping. That should ensure that the product will be as sterilised as most other food when they reach /nasa/.

>>19921105
Sugar and alcohol is also a pretty good pathogen killer. At least alcohol is. You could spice up some of your chocolate by adding a tad bit of alcohol into the mix. The alcohol should evaporate when cooking. Unless you want the chocolate to contain the alcohol. Then you pour alcohol in the cooled chocolate before sealing it off.

If we can't secure another source of cacao then we may open up trade. Though I don't know what /nasa/ has agriculturally that /meat/ doesn't have besides finely ground cake flour and freeze dried vegetables.

>>19921458
I mean, the roasting process should kill the pathogens even without the alcohol, and sugar suppressing pathogen growth is mostly when the concentration is high enough (like in honey) that they start sucking up water from germs. In that case, chocolate itself is also fairly resistant to (living) pathogen and mould because it doesn't have much water in it. in practice I don't mind much about what /meat/ gets in return, since trade relations itself is more interesting than a fair deal given the fictional nature of this setting We can probably wait for more information regarding resource placement before deciding on what /nasa/ can trade. It also gives time to other countries that would be able to grow cacao a chance to pitch in.

>>19921458
As for non-/meat/ source of cacao, given the climate I would say you might want to ask the following places about whether they grow cacao: Anya-Petra, bakatare, /ggg/, /ppg/ and /tsun/

thoughts on the use of locomotive/trains?

>>19922140
I wonder if /ggg/ would be interested in a spicy Cajun fish stew.

>>19921951
Not gonna lie. I'm an idiot when it comes to medicine. I'm an idiot when it comes to many things really. Including space travel.

>>19922443
To my knowledge steam engines are a no-go because steam engines in general are too advanced for this age. Now you can have rails for minecarts.

>>19922443
Timeloops galore, no way for it to be allowed

Question about steamships, are we using paddles, or screws?

>>19924424
It depends. What can be hand forged? I think paddles can be hand forged without machines to bend the metal like screws would.

Page 9 bump.

>>19875937
shouldn't hypermodernity be a bad end?

>>19929472
It depends on if the government is transhumanist anti-human or augmented human.

This might be a little much, but I had a follow-up idea with Rosestones. What if in order to use the stored energy, friction had to be applied to them? One Rosestone with friction can be used for lighting and heat like normal. But if two Rosestones rubbed against each other hard enough, they could spark or even cause a tiny explosion? It would be more dangerous to handle, but could have some interesting uses. I think.
Also I'll get back to you guys on trades in the morning, I've been working on the rough draft for my first real lore dump and my brain is pretty fried.

>>19826046
They came in boats of iron and smoke. Strange men and stranger, clock-shaped helmets. It was not the first time the Risuners had seen seen worshippers of the English-speaking Holo pantheon, but it was the first time making contact with these peculiar people. Donning dark blue coats and standing in formation, eerily still as if built into the deck of their ships. They met no resistance, and oddly enough no interest, as they marched out with rifles past the pink fur-clad natives. They met neither still as they walked to the nearest settlement, a peculiar one with finer dress with a taller hat speaking up in the crowd.

"Risuners, I come to represent the map making efforts of the VTWBG, a union of nations across the globe." He bowed low, formal and stiff. "I am a Kronie from the northern island of Infinity. I hope to make good relations with your people, and to introduce you to the world stage."

No response, save for disinterested stares. Some of the natives continued to go about their business. Just as the sharply dressed foreigner was about to question if these people spoke Global, one among them spoke.

"And? What do you want, stranger?" The man raised an eyebrow, still carrying a sack of nuts, looking more annyoed at this pause in his work than curious of this display. "Risuners keep to ourselves."

"... And what is it you Risuners do here?" the Kronie asked, rising and straightening up. "Please, educate us on your culture."

"We work our nuts," another native said. "We enjoy our nuts. And when the holy month comes, we feast upon the nuts heartily." He seemed to be a little proud of their way of life, chin raised and chest puffed. "All in the name of our goddesses."

"We wait upon our goddesses," said another, a youth, "We wait upon their singing in their divine voices. Long have we waited and long shall we wait."

"Two spirits as one, the sultry Ayunda and the chipper Risu," the first native continued. " Both demand of us much nuts. We have much work and worship to do, we have no interest in this... map making."

The Kronie leaned forward with every word from the Risuners. Constant nutting, a penchant for their goddess's songs, "sultry"? Were these people descended from the Takeshis, like his own people? And if had to say Infinity was not already interested in this region's position and possible resources, he'd be lying. He gestured to his aide, who had been recording this dialogue, to stop for a moment. "... If you've no interest in the world at large, then I do not represent the world at large. Now, I represent Infinity."

He procured parchment from his pack - was he prepared for this? - and began reading from it. "Infinity holds every nation's rights to their to their borders and to their territory dearly. In the..." he trailed off, eyeing the disinterested crowd before continuing, "mutual interest of all Kronies and all Risuners, Infinity offers to take this land as her protectorate - loyalty for loyalty, we will defend your country to our last breaths in exchange for your compliance."

If any Risuners objected, they kept it to themselves, as quiet as the rest of the remarkably bored crowd.

"Do you... accept?"

...

The clock men sailed back north, the soldiers and sailors cracking open crates of Kronii Milk to celebrate, dancing and drinking for a job well done. But the diplomat did not join them, holed up in his cabin, fiddling with the freshly sealed envelope in his hands. Signed documents that could possibly alter the course of history, change the world.

Or maybe he was thinking too hard. Maybe at most, these papers just meant a lot of money for his superiors and a much easier time for all his nation's ships. He knows the higher-ups back home would be happy to know they can work on that canal now, making trade with the western end of the mainland far easier.

Ah, best not fret over what the future holds, he thought to himself. Time is the goddess', concern, not his. He loosened the buttons of his coat, leaning back in his seat as he opened a vintage bottle of Kronii Boob Sweat. A job well done indeed.

At the very least, maybe this meant they could all get to know some of those native women better.

----------

Infinity is happy to announce that it has acquired the lands of Risuners as a protectorate. Infinity will defend it's borders in exchange for the natives' loyalty. We have been given free range over the land, and it will be developed to the benefit of both Kronies and Risuners alike.

Thank you for your time.

>>19871646
>>19874235
>>19875613
>>19876196
>>19876331
>>19876763
>>19877094

>>19931795
This is... nuts...

>>19932084

>>19910648
>Digging a canal through Japan with 1700s tech would be a pretty insurmountable task.
>/infinity/ now owns Risu
They're going to build a canal, aren't they?

>>19932218
i mean, it's pretty clear they've been trying to set up the play now. They still couldn't build the canal even if they wanted to.

>>19932299
>They still couldn't build the canal even if they wanted to.
/infinity/ is weaponized autism incarnate, if they want it, they'll figure out a way to do it.

>>19932299
>>19932218
I just googled "canal boat history" and the very first article was about how America started making man-made canals for transporting goods on boats... After the industrial revolution, in 1817

Infinity is in the mid 1800s.

I guess wait a century for diesel combustion engines I guess.

>>19932497
I think the issue is the amount of land they'd need to terraform to create the canal, but if this was a long term project for decades, it could happen.

>>19931795
Slowly but surely the council begins to assert control over all the inactive splits. Where will this all lead, I wonder...
Also,
>I am a Kronie from the northern island of Infinity.
Isn't that the schizo island? What could these men be up to?

>>19932864
It meant an island north of Risuna

Imagine how much ground /nasa/ can cover when we build jet airplanes.

>>19932497
anonchama, the panama canal took 10 years to be built and finished with 1900's technology, the Suez also took 10 years with mid 1800's tech, making a canal through what's basically japan would be actual decades of work and capital invested.

>>19904034
We have cabbages, potatoes, and coldwater fish - all of which are perishable but still able to be traded using our speedy steamboats.

We also have holy products for sale and trade, take your pick
https://rentry.org/p7sww

We also have refined steel using advanced techniques and clockwork technology, but both are only available to our allies.

>>19933035
But they didn't have chuubanite. Which cuts the project down to 50 years with 21st century tech. But by that point everyone's flying.

>>19932903
Ah, I see. My mistake.

>>19933035
>>19933184
People still use the panama canal for shipping. It would make sense for /inf/ to invest that level of capital to trade with rest of the coastal holo states because otherwise they'd have to sail through niji, pirate and jew territory.

I suppose /nasa/'s next project after moving the station and mining the crater is to build a dock for trade ships. We lack the personel to build a dock. Which means we're either going to have to hire or we're going to have to sell land.

>>19933478
We're also dealing with a really long and really deep channel. You're going to need pumps to properly level the canal the more inland you go. Which to run your pumps you need a power plant. Fortunately /nasa/ has blueprints for both combustion and nuclear power. However the world needs to advance its technology first because there's not enough people in /nasa/ right now to build a power plant.

>>19934004
Shit, /nasa/ is playing out the uplift quests I was always reading on /tg/.

>>19933478
They do, no one is denying that, but this is something that's very clearly outside the realm of possibility, don't really know if the humid subtropical terrain would make it harder thought, depends on whether it's louisana or florida style swamp or just plains. So it's a shit ton of work that is not possible yet.

>>19934173
What if we used "rods from god" to dig the channel?

>>19934686
orbital striking sounds cool, but it might be a little too silly

>>19934004
chuubanite powered pumps and plows. how viable is that?

>>19934910
at that point, what's the difference from just using steam power?

>>19930858
Sounds about right, although does that mean Rosestone lamps will contain mechanism that rubs it on a regular basis to keep it lit?

>>19934998
magic and probably lasts longer as a fuel source, and is rechargeable by your oshi streaming

Isn't building this canal going to be an international effort? We are building a canal through a strip of land the width of japan

>>19934846
Well we won't just be digging up topsoil. We're going to be digging deep into bedrock carving out a canal. You're going to need lots of power to move all that stone. Whether it be explosives or shovels.

>>19935042
We'll have to invent Vituboline first (chuubanite but in gasoline form). And then we'll have to engineer the power plants to run on this stuff. Its a big infrastructure project that's bound to have a lot of enemies.

>>19935312
>Ahoy pirates and nasfaqq mercenaries just fucking razing shit to the ground to not lose their trade monopoly

>>19935437
Would make for a pretty interesting story ngl

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