/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19838275
Wow what happened to La+? Why so few hours streamed?

>>19839005
Eopchama pls

>>19839005
she's always been like that. a normal number of streams, but shorter streams that end abruptly. it's because of her low attention span and it keeps her gachis unsatisfied and wanting more

>>19838275
>If the avg-ccv cannot be obtained, 50% of the max-ccv(75% for collaborations) will be considered the avg.
That's wildly inaccurate, but I assume there aren't many anyways.

>98 streams
Jesas

>>19839005
She has crappy internet and has been moving.

>>19839208
>70 hours more than 2nd place, which is Watame
What’s wrong with this woman?

It's Pekoland and we're all just living in it

>>19838275
I remember when Fubuki's popularity was falling off a bit there but good to see shes back and going strong! Great Job!!

>>19838275
nipple deflection thread

>>19838275
The fuck happened to Korone? She used to be like the second most subbed chuuba and now she's barely hanging on...

>>19839719
Get your eyes checked

>>19839005
She only streams one hour per stream lmao. 37.3 stream time out of 37 streams

>>19838275
>Top 10 streamer with numerous debuffs since debut
Flare will be top 5 by the end of the year

>>19838275
Huh, sana have more hrs stream than i thought. What did she do 3 weeks ago?

>>19839716
A really bad one at that.
The average holo does tremendously better than the average Niji.
The worst holo does better than the worst niji.
The best holo does better than the best niji.
Their only argument for defending Fulgur Covid's seething ass is that council flopped, but they seem quite happy with how they're doing if they're not even on a rush to "fix" their numbers.
Let's see if Nijifag wave 2 can keep the momentum or it really has power just because Cum man panders to fujos anf chinks.

>>19838275
>Haato getting less hours watched than Ayame.

>>19839917
The underdog became the 2nd strongest HoloFantasy
Is this the power of homo dark elf?

>>19838275
Chimkin still being the top streamer by hours in HoloEN

>>19839719
Because she still won’t play doom eternal

>>19838275
Someone needs to save this Coyote from herself

>>19840140
And by a large margin at that. She is literally carrying holoen

>>19840182
she likes streaming man, it's actually crazy how lonely she gets when she's not, and she used to be like this before hl as well
like if you stay for he superchat readings, you can tell when she notices she's near the end and starts responding to the low cost ones cause she doesn't want to end
or when she's playing a game and say she's gonna end the stream and starts preparing but keeps playing for like an hour

>>19838275
>shion - 5 streams
>ayame - 7 streams
How lazy can they get

>>19838275
What is wrong with this women

>>19840121
She's really fucked her channel

>>19839719
Still 7th despite only having 26 streams. If she streams more she will incline.

>>19838275
People are so impressed with Koyori but you have to consider, 315 hours in 2 months is close to 160/month, which is the same as working a full time 40hr/week job.

So, the Koyori secret is she is basically the only current Holo who actually sees this like a job to the extent she puts in work hours equivalent to if it was a regular job with hours. She is the only one actually working like this is a real job.

>>19840711
NGOOOOOOOOOOOOH KOYORI SEX DUNGEON

>>19839968
Endless hours of pokemon cancer

>>19841004
Except all the non streaming shit they need to do would also count as work hours, so she is basically doing extra.

>>19841004
You're not taking into account other things like off-stream work/practice.

>>19841004
A lot of them overestimate how much actual work they need to do off camera but you can't pretend it's zero. Even koyori is preparing english for her show off stream so when you look at her having full time hours on stream she's definitely putting in far more hours than that total.

>>19841286
For her sake, I hope all Cover is expecting from her is to stream because if she's doing all the other stuff Hololive girls do then she's going to burn out mighty fast.

>>19840136
The power of throwing your gen under the bus. Pekora should watch her back while around her from now on.

>>19838275
Were HoloID numbers always this low? What was the maximum ccv that they ever achieved?
And come on Haachama, you stramed 40 times and still got beaten by Ayame and Shion, whose numbers of streams if combined together barely pass 75% of your number of streams.

>>19839005
She puts out as many normal videos as she does streams, it was her gimmick since debut

>>19841004
Streaming is not a job

>>19840250
Carry how. Doesn't matter how much she stream, she would never be relevant

>>19838275
>>19833025

>>19839208
>>19840711
Did she even have a life outside hololive anymore?

>>19842368
Shes a hag so its either being a housewife for her which she isnt or streaming

>>19842368
She streams like every day 2 times a day almost, so no.

>>19842407
The fuck are you talking about, last time I saw she was 26 right? Riiighttt?

>>19838275
>mori "5%" calliope has the 3rd most streaming hours in EN despite her break/breakdown

wtf vt you told me she was a lazy and bad influence

>>19842184
Cope and seethe

>>19840051
Niji En 2 won't survive, all the pronoun kids barking at you for calling Yugo a woman don't even watch her. She's a pathetic streamer.

Her momentum is twittards going "omg they identify as they/them" and that won't last long

>>19843199
33

>>19843478
She did a bunch of Jump King marathon streams in January before her yab forced to to cut back. She'd easily be in the top 5 if it wasn't for that.

>>19842181
seethe

>>19843478
Well that really says more about the state of EN than anything about Mori

>>19838275
Holy shit when did Matsuri fell behind so bad?

>>19840250
I mean, she streams a lot, but she's not exactly carrying anything. 1 Gura stream is seen by as many people at 5 of Kiaras. Not saying anything bad about Kiara, she does her best, but that's the reality of it.

>>19838275
SENCHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>19845061
Since the "stalker" yab, almost no one believed her. At least she filtered her viewers.

>>19838275
Pekora is carrying these lazy bitches

>>19838275
Post VShojo and Nijisanji streaming numbers

>>19841004
You are ignoring the fact they say it takes 2x as much prep outside of streaming. That's why they never sleep.

>>19840449
shion has been in depression hell since her cat died
ayame is just lazy

>>19838275
So Peko, Senchou and Aqua are the big 3?

>>19838275
Still that high with two missing weeks
We're waiting for you tenshi

>>19845121
The SC numbers are always fascinating to me. Gachis play a big ass part in that. For HoloEN Gura is the biggest for viewers, but she is waaaay down there for SC money (Ayame made more than her in the last 30 days). Meanwhile Kiara has some of the lower viewer numbers in EN (apart from Sana) yet is often fighting for first with Mori in regards to SCs.

>>19845331
Did that shit really affect her? I thought people just swept it under the rug.

>>19845477
>ayame isnt depressed
She keeps talking about she adress her life problems and blames herself every time, cries whenever she feels she's not good enough, hides herself in her room with her cat and only goes out to buy gummy. She's not doing fine

>all those hours streamed
>so low in hours watched
Watch my oshi

>>19845675
and both are probably putting hours into practicing for holofes so it's not like they aren't working, people should cut them some slack

>>19845601
Kiara interacts a ton with her viewers, to the point of knowing their names and icons and even checking out their twitters and stuff. You get a lot of bang for your buck donating to her.

>>19845675
>She keeps talking about she adress her life problems

adress her life problems negatively*

>>19845632
I think it drains her over time.
The hand and the host club pictures were sympathetic but still gachikoi killers. And there's other things like how she gets depressed about Apex.

>>19845061
Apex spam

>>19838275
imagine being Baelz. Stream every day for a month and still get outviewed by a psycho who streamed not at all and got fired halfway through

>>19845601
That is why context matter for analyzing these numbers, different streaming content and strategy end up different results, the important thing is each member should find their sweet spot to maximize their advantages. For example, Gura earns a lot of membership (according to Hololyzer) but not much from SC. So her streaming style makes her viewers rather join her membership but not giving her SC. (I guess her member content plays a big part of it + she treat SC basically like Ina). The problem is beside SC, it's hard to track other revenue source like membership or ad rev from views, this is all we have on the table, sad.

>>19845790
Oh yeah for sure. I do understand the why of it in regards to Kiara. She's certainly been cultivating Quality over Quantity.

>>19845601

>>19845924
>host club pictures
Huh? this is news to me, what host pictures?

>>19845061
The other anon is retard, it wasn't the hand, stalker or host club yab, those things were roommate things and the majority of the people didn't know about it. She was spamming APEX for like a year and filtered a lot of people, that's the reason

>>19846063
That is All Time, look at Monthly. It gives you a better idea of how things are shaking out. Chloe, for example, is presently number 1 for Hololive and has been for the past couple of months now.

>>19845601
SC are absolutely dependent on how the vtuber treats their chat. For example Kronii was making good money by indulging her mentally ill schizo fanbase, until she kind of stopped.

>>19838275
>Sana streamed more hours than Suisei, Marine, Ayame, Shion, La+, Mel, Risu...
isreal?

>>19846037
Depends, we don't have their full analytics beside SC.

>>19846192
10+ hour pokemon streams

>>19846192
Well Marine is actaully dying and LA+ internet only works for maybe at best an hour at a time.

>>19846066
Someone took pictures of her at a host club and tried to blackmail her like some kind of retarded doujin plot.
She paid the guy but he released them anyway and she got in contact with a lawyer.

>>19846284
The only thing thats dying is her voice. Shes not taking the surgery to fix them and is sticking to the medicine which takes months to heal

>>19846368
Her voice is kinda what she needs to stream, so it dying means she's dying.

>>19846066
I'm not really sure the exact details, but Matsuri was invited to/dragged to a host club by her "friend", but apparently the owner knew and took pictures of her while she was there and tried to blackmail her. She's since reported it to the police and I think she leaked it to KoreKore to get ahead of the blackmail or something like that. I didn't really follow it so another anon may be more helpful

>>19845601
All the 4 main metrics (subs, CCV, VOD views, SCs) have some interesting interactions, but we don't really have access to their contracts regarding ad revenue or their real income so it's hard to say what is exactly the best

>>19841004
How long do you think it takes for her to prepare one hour worth of her radio show, in which she discusses all recent and upcoming holo events? You have to take that into account as well.

>>19846446
Anon here, I was referring specifically to just the SC money. As to their actual monthly take? Yeah, who knows. Presumably the one with the most overall VOD views a month probably makes the most ad revenue. But YouTube adsense is a most inscrutable and arcane thing so who the fuck knows.

>>19846414
fair enough

>>19842107
If you're good enough at it that it pays your bills, then it's absolutely a job.

>>19846063
>a fucking leaf

>>19846895
I'm actaully Ina, yes

Why Koyori is like that?

Another numbers obsessed hololive thread.

>>19847365
Seethe

>>19847094
Loneliness

>>19845061
The outcome of her APEX galore started back in 2020 with increased menhera antics, less holo collaboration involvement and ignoring listeners pleas to diversify until it was too late.

She literally became Rushia minus all the GFE and teetee.

At least she has a good 500 - 2000 viewers that will be always loyal to her.

>>19846022
numberfags can't even see the numbers from member streams, yet made a concrete conclusion, and they are too lazy to do a deep dive into the context of numbers (hours streamed, unmonetized streams, consistency of reading superchats, other metrics besides the obvious one, etc) that's why you always see a stupid comment like "Vox is the new Kuzuha" from them

numberfags are mentally ill.

Here's a tip for you. MOST vtuber streams are under 100 views. If you are a fan of vtubers, being obsessed with numbers is counterproductive.

>>19838275
tick tock peggers

>>19838275
Hey faggots, the numbers thread is two pages down the catalog

>>19838275
Sana was watched more than Sora... what a sick joke

>>19849060
Kuzuha streaming Elden Ring during his 4th anniversary is just so funny and so him.

>>19849160
Most baseball players don't bat over .300, so baseball fans shouldn't look at player statistics?

>>19849160
Here's a tip for you. MOST vtuber streams do numberfag themselves.

>>19849060
>>19849160
>>19849193
The numbers can't hurt you. Don't be a faggot and just let people do their things in peace

>>19849793
the only people who care about sport stats are fantasy fuckers and gamblers.

>>19849954
Their excuse is it's their job.

They all stream so little what the fuck

>>19849981
And?

>>19838275
>aqua ccv
I'm so happy for her, the apex arc really boosted her

>>19850069
Take your meds, schizo

>>19849793
The people who care about stuff like that are mentally ill though. The vast majority of fans do not obsess over baseball statistics.
>>19849954
If you like watching vtubers, you should learn to care about the numbers less. Or else you'll just end up watching the major corporations and nothing else.
>>19849966
The numberfags are completely toxic and need to be put in the garbage where they belong

>>19850534
>The vast majority of fans do not obsess over baseball statistics.

>>19850534
Stop pretending you're not mentally ill yourself, this hobby itself isn't exactly the type of thing that you'll get yourself into if you're sane.
Get off your high horse, schizo-in-denial

Sports fans don't care about statistics, clearly. Fantasy Football only makes more money than the actual NFL just cause.

>>19850534
>The numberfags are completely toxic
The shitposters in the catalog aren't numberfags, they are just shitposters. Why do you think there's always a bait thread made with images from there? What would be the purpose for that? I'll tell you why, to make people seethe. They are from baiters, they are not interested in metrics

>>19850311
they don't care about the sport, just their imaginary teams and/or money just like how # only thinks about what will get big number tomorrow.

>>19850534
>Or else you'll just end up watching the major corporations and nothing else.
Ok, this is a 2view seething

>>19850627
>>19850793
>unironically defending numberfags

>>19850839
And why is that something bad? Let people do their things

>>19850871
How does Yagoo's anus taste?

>>19839175
Still better than what StreamHatchet faggots proposed. Early Dec 2020 and late Dec 2021 culls have fucked up the genuine stats so hard it's literally impossible to truly know their real statistics.

>>19850935
They ruin threads with their obsessing over numbers. It's awful shit. They're like a virus.

>>19851127
Shut up, schizo boy
No one likes you not even your parents could stand your nonstop whining

>>19850935
Do something better with you life.

>>19850933
I'm tired of globalfags and catalog readers seething everytime someone is looking at numbers too. They are a genuine metric to see how's the industry growing, but people just seethe and ignore it
>>19851011
Tasty
>>19851127
Shitposters, how do you know they are genuine? Do you know this place is full of antis, from all sides? They grab every opportunity they see to make their fans seethe. And they succeed, it seems

>>19851349
Ok, have a good day

>>19851264
You are obsessed with vtuber numbers so much you don't even watch the streams. That's beyond autism, that's unhealthy.
>>19851358
>They are a genuine metric
The numberfag defending his toxic numberfag shit
>Tasty
You lick the shit-juice dripping out of Yagoo's hairy anus, and spend your days obsessing over how much money he is making. Someone who you've never met, who you don't even know. Imagine someone obsessively counting the quarterly profits of Starbucks and how they are making huge gains over Coffee House. That's some psycho shit.
>this place is full of antis, from all sides?
This place is filled with obsessed numberfags like you who need to fuck off so the rest of us can enjoy vtubers.

>>19851536
You are just saying that they are bad just because they are bad

>>19849174
Tick tock indeed. I wonder when the time that elite will finally be able to reach the Queen happen?
That will never happen dumb elite whore.
Pekora rested 9 days within the first two months(compared to 4 after a breakdown last year, she used to never take a single day of rest for a whole year before that happened)+ her really poor choice in games at the beginning of the year didn't help her at all.
Miko will never be able to catch Pekora anyways, we would need the latter to stop streaming for a month or two for that to eventually happen.

>>19851358
10 times out of 10 anyone posting numbers out of the containment board is either gloat or grudge posting. Pretending otherwise just outs yourself as a shitty troll or mentally ill. If you want to talk about numbers the well adjusted thing to do is talk about in the number thread.

>>19838275
>Sora lost to fucking Sana
OH NO NONO NONONONONONOONOAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19851536
>incoherent schizo noise
MEDS.

>>19851625
It shouldn't surprise you that this board is basically overrun with hololive managers, vtubers, and staff members, who are using numberfagging and tribalfagging to defend their monopoly position in the market. And you fall for it, that's the saddest thing.

>>19838275
>98
Aiiieeee mayori stop!

>>19851805
again, hololive board
(You) = tourist
Me = god

>>19852276
Don't reply to the baiter

Incredibly lucky to have my oshi.
Proud of her.

>>19839005
Don't forget to add in the 11.8hrs on twitch.