/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>zoomers are getting into Emo music again because they like the 'retro 2000s' aesthetic
>kids in the 2040s will get into vtubing because they like the "retro 2020s" aesthetic
Well
With any luck I'll be dead.

>>19723861
It will last indefinitely until something conceptually superior comes to replace it. I cannot see it ever dying of its own accord

>>19724035
>The generation after zoomers is already named Gen Alpha
>The poor bastards in the 40's/50's will be know as gen beta

>>19724140
>implying we'll have another generation

>>19724140
I think people will eventually get tired of the gimmick. There is just so much creativity you can squeeze out of the talents before it becomes repetitive.

>>19723861
it will last so long as they can sell merch and they are still making a killing

>>19724215
Why wouldn't we?

>>19723861
If HoloEN3 isnt better than Council its fucking over.
- VShojo can't carry the scene
- NijiEN is going to repeat Luxiem
- Startups refuse to challenge their competitors and continue to make the same mistakes
- Indies constantly deconstructing vtubing without adding anything new
- L2D Vtuber tech hasn't made any major updates after the hand movements

Shit is looking pretty grim

>>19723861
the concept of "vtuber" won't die but the top players will rotate out just like IRL streamers. for example ninja now xqc, HoloEN now Luxiem, it's just the natural order.

>>19724364
we'll all be dead by 2024 if everything goes as planned

>>19724291
There's no gimmick. It's just streaming with an anime avatar & persona. Is streaming a fad?

>>19724501
What will kill us?

I don't think the concept of vtubing will die out. Corporations and the idol image may, but as long as streaming exists so will vtubing. Besides the "you can just pretend you're not ugly" thing people always bring up, an avatar is convenient you want some way of expressing yourself onscreen without worrying about looking your very best on camera

>>19724535
i dunno

>>19724529
>Is streaming a fad
Yes.

Hololive or Nijisanji may lose their top spot one day but Vtubers are definitely not a fad, they're here to stay.

>>19724876
There'd have to be something major to happen for the duopoly to lose their control of the industry.

>>19724535
the water wars will escalate. they're already happening

>>19724535
>oil to 400 BBL causes costs of moving shit around to skyrocket because it turns out that you can't move freighters on "solar power"
>this causes mass starvation
>redneck army comes out of the mountains to gas city folx
>china nukes the planet rather than go down
>Pippa Pipkin then escapes into space

>>19724598
so nothingburger

>>19725105
i know we'll die, i just don't know how

>>19723861
>How many time more
Great many, like buffalo that roam our land

>>19724876
>>19725009
The fact that Hololive hasn't dipped in popularity in any noticeable amount after Coco's graduation and Rushia's termination proves that their brand name is really strong. 10 years down the line they could probably replace all of their current talents over time and still be somewhat successful.

I'll still be streaming 20 years from now, even if I'm old.

>>19723861
It was always meant to be some niche Japanese weirdness surviving on the money of crazy otaku who have nothing better to spend on than otaku goods. Vtubing isn't going to die, it's just going back to its rightful place.

>>19723861
the next boon will make them main stream(already is in japan), just like normal anime, but ofcourse only if the west doesnt destroy it completely before it happens.

>>19726584
They're gonna need a new gen 3 powerhouse at some point to help keep the momentum going. If they can't hit a new trendsetter they're going to begin to stagnate and decline eventually.

I think the concept of virtual idols/actors/streamers etc will eventually escape the anime and otaku communities, and be pandered to normies. Hopefully there's still a good 5-10 years before that happens

>>19724423
Based doomposter. I can appreciate someone who thinks they all suck.

>>19724492
>Luxiem top players
In what universe?

>>19723861
Indies spending so much money on models, rigging, stream shit etc only to get 2view is probably demoralizing for them, so maybe those types of people will bow out gradually first

>>19723861
Vtubers will become a part of things that exist just like the YouTuber fad didn't go away as much as it went endemic. The technology is becoming better and more available, so yeah.
It's gonna be crazy to see what happens next, you already have YouTuber fanbases that have been around for 10 to 15 years, the younger girls in Nini and Hololive could very well be active 10 years from now.

>>19723861
as long as there are average/ugly lonely men
so probably 5 more years

>>19724876
They're going to keep evolving or just become normalized to the point vtuber isn't some kind of special label. Youtubers before vtubing were making videos with 2d images for a long time and transitioning to moving versions isn't a stretch.
Nux already did it and he's just the same rantsona he's always been. He's not really a vtuber.

>>19723861
Streaming is more popular than sports for some zoomers. Streamers have replaced traditional actors and celebrities for zoomers.
If Vtubing is anime streaming, then it's not a fad, but the future.

>>19726584
>>19726823
I'm curious as to how the EN side will fair when Gura graduates. I know people meme about >dead subs but she's really a lynchpin for the branch, she's beloved by JPs and the other ENs, her singing brings in big numbers, and there's no one who could really take the same role if she were to go, at least not yet

It'll die the day that streaming dies, which isn't going to happen anytime soon. Streaming is now the best way to advertise your product/games to an audience. It grows bigger every year. Only way it dies is if the newer generations just stop using twitch/youtube and strictly use Tiktok. Vtubers are just streamers with an anime avatar.

>>19727488
the managers are gonna need to loosen up massively if EN is going to try new things and grow beyond gura.

>>19727825
no need, Disney will buy gura when they start getting into vtubing

>>19728237
https://youtu.be/zkvrv3-xKRc

Disney already had vtubing since like 2004

>>19727488
Gura's like the only EN vtuber in general that I can stand to watch. She sounds the less "dub-ish" if that makes sense.

>>19729249
It does not, please elaborate
The others sound like English dubs to you?

>>19724035
>2040 vroomers will be into caramelldansen again because that's what the funny vtubers in the 2020s were singing

In Japan they are fucking celebrities and you can find them everywhere, magazines, street ads, all shops, TV, radio...

Despite not having so many regular stream numbers like they used to during pandemic, they are still expanding in all the mainstream media. Just wait until they can use a hologram to see Pekora ruling over the world.

>>19729711
>see Pekora ruling over the world
we will never get there. hololive is on reclining phase just like Ai, they will slowly fade into obscurity.

>>19729711
Watame recently got a late night TV show where they bring in her Gachis that are willing to go on live TV to show how much they like her.

>>19730415
>all those depressed motherfuckers going on a latenight show to say watame is the only thing keeping them from suicide