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Previous >>19685097

>> No.19696788,1 [INTERNAL] 

Is Kenmochi's stream always this big? 33k?

>> No.19691695
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.19691793

>>19691658
>Haiyi from Synthesizer v, by Atdan
why though?

>> No.19691878

>>19691793
Why not?
ATDAN never fails to deliver.

>> No.19691984

>>19691878
it's the feet isn't it?

>> No.19692017
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>watching terminated holo while waiting for the other ex-holo to start karaoke
bros...

>> No.19692116

Mel and Miko playing Within Skerry, just why? It was probably the worst game i've seen in a while.

>> No.19692126

>>19692017
Kson should just get these two and make a studio. Call themselves menheralive or some shit.

>> No.19692239

Akina new outfit SC earning $36k so far..

>> No.19692241

>>19691972
kek, Pekora playing Vampire Survivors, every holo and their mother "wants" to play it. Pekora plays Within Skerry, Mel and Miko just has to play it. Pekora picks up Sekiro after a year and a half, wanting to finish it. Flare just has to play it.
Is Pekora really the test bunny for all the other holos for what to stream?

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It really is a strong hour
>Watame 10k for grownups and all that
And Sora decided to stream through all this overlap to her 2.4k

>> No.19692322

>>19692241
Generally, Pekora and Gura both have a pretty big impact on who wants to stream, but more so Pekora because JP management and JP tastes tend to resonate more with the JP branch
For VS, I think it was....
Pekora -> A bunch of JPs
Gura -> Korone, Okayu, a bunch of ENs
Of course, Gura got influenced by Aki, so it really isn't always so simple.

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19692383

Oh, Lui just released the Identity cover
>it's with Okayu
Color me surprised.

>> No.19692389

>>19692241
>>19692322
Flare was talking about playing Sekiro again before Pekora even said anything about it retards, they both played it years ago and want to finish it now that they have permissions.

>> No.19692409

>>19692322
As soon as Pekora got big numbers with VS and once Peko/Aki said they loved the game, the rest of JP were always gonna play it. Gura had nothing to do with it.

>> No.19692411

>>19692241
Yes. Either Pekora's the one pushing various perms for holo to stream or they talents themselves watch whatever's popular clips of other talents which would be most likely Pekora who's over-the-top reaction would make any game look fun.

>> No.19692445

>>19692389
Oh, I meant generally.
Sekiro no doubt has many who played it before wanting to hop back on after they got fucked by the copystrike arc, now wanting to play it now that fromsoft finally buckled. Mb for not really being clear i was talking generally and not specific to sekiro.

>> No.19692451

>10,001 watching now
Watame's horn drill pierced through Susan's artificial 10k ceiling!

>> No.19692459

Aside from Akina, where are the NijiJps, the NijiCn is beating them.

>> No.19692461

>>19692241
Nah not for Sekiro. Pekora did tease us about wanting to play a FromSoft game, however Flare also teased her community not too long ago. She mentioned not wanting to play Elden Ring for the moment as everyone else would play it and she didn't want to make the viewers be bored.
Pekora indeed is the tester for whether a game would gather many people or not it has been shown plenty of times already in the past.

>> No.19692496

>>19692241
At least in Flare's case she spoke about doing Sekiro at the same time as Pekora, and it also comes down to the fact that when someone gets permissions they all do at the same time, leading to an overload of the same content.

>> No.19692547

Pekora generally research games to stream. She puts a lot of effort trying to understand what game meta works. She even checks on what's popular on the western industry. Holos just find it easy to check what Pekora thinks is meta and jumps on the bandwagon

>> No.19692575

>>19692383
She's putting covers out too fast lol, Mira was just 6 days ago and isn't quite to 200k views.

>> No.19692613

>>19692547
Well that's why she is on the top

>> No.19692651

>>19692575
Lui-nee needs to slow down. Time the songs to celebration milestones or something. This is Watame all over again.

>> No.19692654

Is kanata gonna recover fast enough to join holofest? Her symptoms still seem pretty bad. My cousin still has sore throat from last week.

>> No.19692667

I just realised that suisei is basically a quarter of the top 50 weekly covers list every time, holy shit

>> No.19692712
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Korone's promoting the Gamers collab tomorrow,
kek, she said that for new viewers, they might not even know what Gamers is. Have they really collabed that little lately?

Also, reminder of who's winning gold.
Though, Horny posting will be very short so, some Rushia spliced in for old time's sake?

>> No.19692729

>>19692667
She's a great singer and it seems that she cares a lot about the quality of her songs.

>> No.19692742

>>19692667
10-13 out of 50, yes.

>> No.19692777

1.1k for Zen in a Phasmaphobia collab seems a bit high
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsoOp2xIkPE
Is MAHA5 inclining?

>> No.19692788

>>19692712
The last full gamers collab I can remember was phasmo when fubuki hit 1M subs, there might have been one or two others since then but yeah, not much.

>> No.19692804

>>19692575
>>19692651
Fuck that, gimme more songs. If they can't get good numbers it's cause they were bad

>> No.19692810

>>19692777
chloe papua buff ?

>> No.19692812

>>19692017
I'm surprised that the second one can still get relatively good numbers(7.7k). She left a year and a half ago so all the tourists have surely fucked off by now.

>> No.19692873

>>19692667
How many records has Suisei broken so far?

>> No.19692875

>>19692812
She's a singer. Probably going to be the ace of Gen 5 when it comes to singing. What a shame really.

>> No.19692898

>>19692804
That has never been accurate in the entire history of human existence

>> No.19692904

>>19692777
Could this be correlated to the teased return of Maya Putri? After seeing it people might have investigated and found out where she has been all this time.

>> No.19693027

>>19691984
Yes. God, I want to suck on those toes.

>> No.19693411

>>19693027
People with foot fetish are disgusting

>> No.19693591
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>>19693411
stupid, toes are part of numbers

>> No.19693658

Hololive is set to debut:
- Another StarsJP
- ID3
- EN3
- StarsEN

What are the chances of JP7 also debuting this year?

>> No.19693673

>>19693411
That's a bit rich coming from you, Nippleboy

>> No.19693687

>>19693658
not low, but only by the end of the year

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>More than half a year since debut
This is unironically terrible.

>> No.19693772

>Flare and Pekora overlap with the same game
Bullying detected

>> No.19693778

17k and Rising. Can he get 20k?

https://youtu.be/zNJf_lyI87Q

>> No.19693797

Chumbuds, our EN Gold....

>> No.19693808

>>19693361
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/xw23rwZ038A
this is the closest I can find
another mario party collab was during CCVID so it is invalid

>> No.19693847

>>19693778
wtf is that thumbnail

>> No.19693883

>>19693847
It's opiumbait

>> No.19693920

>>19693847
male vtubers were a mistake

>> No.19693939

>>19693778
Stalling, but will probably spike when he actually gets to 400k and break 20k.

>> No.19693950

>>19692409
Korone and Okayu both were watching Gura play VS. Korone already flat out said she started playing because she watched Gura play and it looked interesting. She definitely played a role in it.
But it’s as anon said, both have huge influence in getting people to hop on trends. Noel was already playing ER but it wasn’t until Gura’s giant fucking success and the subsequent playthroughs of EN where JP finally picked it up, and we can’t forget Henry Stickmin which Gura started, which the rest of the JPs picked up. You can find many cases where someone like Pekora created trends also

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>>19693778
>thumbnail

>> No.19693975

>>19692409
Sure, you can say that, but Korone and Okayu cited Gura. So whether or not it was inevitable they would play it doesn't matter. It also doesn't matter since Gura cited Aki and Peko as people she watched play VS so if its really important to you to make these mental gymnastics it leads back to Peko anyway.
A better example would be when Gura started the FNF and Stickmin FOTM saga.

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>>19693778
>that thumbnail
Numbers are numbers at the end of the day but god I'm so sick of this giant fucking faggot and I hope his popularity collapses so I never have to see this shit again

>> No.19694002

>>19693847
yeah, it's like a female body with his face slapped on it

>> No.19694056

>>19693847
Look very carefully...he's actually clothed

>> No.19694067

>>19693689
>Only 11 streams in 2022, last one was a 1-hour stream about 2 weeks ago, and the previous one goes back to 1 month ago
Not even a year and already on maintenance mode, not putting the effort, how can someone with that shit work ethic get in over thousands other applicant entries

>> No.19694129

>>19693778
should have listened to the gatekeeper anons

>> No.19694137

>>19694067
This one is completely on EN management fucking up in their choices/priorities.

>> No.19694140

Do many asp vtubers hate Sana?

>> No.19694148

>>19693950
I don't care what they say. Gura was completely irrelevant in whether they would end up playing it. JP VS meta was gonna happen regardless.

>> No.19694187

>>19694140
all of them do

>> No.19694219

>>19693975
>So whether or not it was inevitable they would play it doesn't matter
It does if what I'm saying is that they were going to end up playing it regardless of Gura. If you want to have a different argument then I don't care to.

>> No.19694251

Man, if you're hating someone like Gura, you are clearly not okay in the hate.

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>>19694219
>>19694148
The absolute seethe. Take a breather, anon.

>> No.19694316

>>19694140
Probably. Some copium from the holofags is that she's probably doing some other stuff for Cover besides her RM activities, which if true means that the /asp/ has even less chances.

>> No.19694354

>>19694148
>I don't care what they say
Imagine being so deranged that you have proof in your face and you ignore it.
What are you trying to prove?

>> No.19694360

>https://twitter.com/cocomi_pad/status/1500484360264634372?s=19
50-60k USD according to this guy

>> No.19694377

>>19694251
>>19694308
lmao so sensitive. I'm not even saying anything bad about her.

>> No.19694386

>>19694187
They are probably not going to go to HoloEN anyway because Cover will vet them really hard.
Probably landing in future NijiEN, thus continuing the legacy of the rant channel.

But honestly speaking, this might reduce the applicant pool for HoloEN a lot.

>> No.19694427

>>19694354
Imagine not being able to understand that Gura could be the reason they played it but also be irrelevant in whether they would play it or not. Retard.

>> No.19694485

Does anyone think that HoloExpo public streams will get gold on that day?

>> No.19694505
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>>19693778
Voxschizo status? I pray for you in this difficult time, and may you be vindicated like Mafuschizo

>> No.19694540

>>19693778
18k so far

>> No.19694594

>>19694386
do you think cover killed its future talent pool by hiring Sana? If I was a big and talented broadcaster, being forced to work with a someone as untalented as her would be terrible for my mental.

>> No.19694622

>>19694427
You’re sounding like an abusive sports dad.
>”It doesn’t matter that you’re doing good son and people are noticing. That only happens because I’M the one who pushed you to this level”
That’s literally you at the moment. JP members already cited Gura for why they played and you still can’t be okay with that, and DEMAND acknowledgement that it was Pekora’s existence that would force everyone to play. Like who fucking cares. That’s autistic as fuck

>> No.19694642

>>19694067
big name artist

>> No.19694659

You think Shion and Ayame get schizos like this?

>> No.19694669

>>19692812
her voice is so amazing fuck me, why did she have to leave

>> No.19694680

>>19694659
>ayame
lmao

>> No.19694697

Chinman anniversary 25k watching $8k supas

>> No.19694734

>>19693847
This is fujoshi.
Welcome, enjoy your stay.

>> No.19694744

>>19694622
Have I brought up Pekora at all? If only Aki played it the meta still probably would have happened. Stop creating arguments for you to cry about. I said something that was pretty straightforward, and your twisting it in different ways just so you can bitch.

>> No.19694762
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>>19694386
lol sure anon, hololive is doomed because of sana, this time for sure

>> No.19694782

>>19694622
Honestly why the fuck are nousagi like this about Gura specifically?
It can't be ancient grudges about blackships, back then numberfags were always numberfagging Gura's subs not CCV, and Peko was ahead anyway.
It can't be some sort of rivalry between the chubas, Gura talks about watching Peko streams all the time.
It can't be current CCV, Pekora losing is always a fluke and Miko/Marine are bigger rivals than Gura.
Pekora even has more superchats and probably more members, more sponsorships, her merch sales are fucking ridiculous.
The only explanation is that either the subs thing gets to them, or the "VOD cope" gets to them, which is hilarious.

>> No.19694826

>>19694594
Who knows, but there will be another HoloEN gen coming for sure. I'm thankful that Cover gives fans a chance to breathe before debuting more.

>> No.19694872

>>19694782
quit arguing with yourself retard

>> No.19694955

>>19692241
i always wonder if posts like this are falsflagers or are nousagis legit this shit as people
holos played within skerry before pekora
holos played vampire survivor before pekora

>> No.19694985

>>19694594
What's the connection?
I think it will encourage more talented aspirants to work for Cover because it's apparent that they don't force their members to do things unlike other companies where they have streaming quotas to fulfill and other obligations like farming for super chats.
I think that's why Nijisanji is inferior to Hololive cause their work environment is kinda harsh. Not only do they have to compete with their coworkers, they aren't even salaried so they're forced to really grind otherwise they'll be neglected like those in ID and KR branches.

>> No.19694993

Today's SC chart is going to be stacked as fuck holy shit

>> No.19694995

>>19694826
Anyone who thinks they're not pumping at least 1 holoEN gen before holostars is insane. Without 3 gens, the pressure and screeching for Star collabs will be ridiculous, as they'll basically be 1/3 of HoloproEN

>> No.19695010

So for that anon tracking Miko's birthday merch numbers. What's the latest numbers?

>> No.19695038

Is this thread doing HoloJP is doomed because of Sony's 50 vtubers but in EN?

>> No.19695044

>>19694985
i would fucking kneel forever if the next gen is fully designed by Sana

>> No.19695071

>>19694985
Did NijiEN really have that harsh quota? I ferl like they are kinda relaxed.

>> No.19695116

>>19695071
NijiEN only requirement is to produce a piece of content doesn't have to be stream 3 days a week.

>> No.19695119

>>19694995
>the pressure and screeching for Star collabs will be ridiculous
I don't think that's gonna happen though. That's automatic ban in chat of any vtubers whether indie or corpo.

>> No.19695141

>>19695071
i mean compare streaming hours. yeah you can spin it as holoEN isn't motivated but even then they still clearly aren't being forced by management.
what would you prefer, streaming 10hrs a week or 30

>> No.19695146

>>19694955

>holos played vampire survivor
false, homos did 2 days before. holos might have talked about it, but pekora's vod is the oldest holo vod of vs unless youtube is fucking with me.

you are correct about within skerry though

>> No.19695180

>>19692777
Zen has pretty image branded himself very too so that could play a part of that as well

>> No.19695189

>>19694995
i wonder if they are going to relent and release a sacrificial gen to collab with homos before releasing the actual homos

>> No.19695197

>>19694826
Time to breathe is one thing, but they left it far too long before debuting Council. EN needed to build it's own box, but they never had the numbers to do it.

>> No.19695230

>>19695141
If you actually enjoy it and don't see it as nothing more than a money machine then probably more than 10hrs?

>> No.19695234
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>20,384: Gura (Hololive)
>18,232: Vox (Nijisanji)
>16,853: Petra (Nijisanji)
>15,402: Mori (Hololive)
>12,034: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,661: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,847: Alban (Nijisanji)
>7,620: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>6,918: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,371: Ike (Nijisanji)
>6,019: Uki (Nijisanji)
>5,166: Yugo (Nijisanji)

>> No.19695273

>>19695234
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 20,384 (Within Skerry)

Hololive - 5
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>> No.19695288

>>19695071
We can see a glimpse of their work environment when Pomu had a menhera attack a long time ago. They are sometimes mandated to stream specific content or participate in collabs. They also have very strict deadlines, which led to Rosemi complaining about her unfinished voice packs etc.
Unlike in Hololive, Nijisanji members have to really grind because having a huge roster means bigger upkeep.

>> No.19695293

>>19695234
kys

>> No.19695311

>>19695234
Vox is probably going to peak when he gets 400k, FYI. Up to you if you'll bother to update.

>> No.19695312

>>19695288
>muh freedom

>> No.19695313

>>19695234
Corrected due to incorrect names.

>20,384: Gura (Hololive)
>18,232: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>16,853: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>15,402: Mori (Hololive)
>12,034: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>8,661: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,847: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>7,620: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>6,918: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,371: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>6,019: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>5,166: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)

>> No.19695329

>>19695313
you kys too retard

>> No.19695347

>>19695311
Don't we use the cutoff at midnight JST?

>> No.19695368

>narukami spreading the rrats created in this board with material likely created in this thread
>> 19693159

APOLOGIZE!?

>> No.19695380

>>19695234
>all the nijiboys on the list
>nijigirls nowhere to be found

kek

>> No.19695379

>>19695288
Mandated collabs? B-but the creative freedom and 1 gorrilion more perms?

>> No.19695398

>>19695329
you go first nijinigger

>> No.19695401

>>19695230
That's cool but reality is quite different. You think someone of Niji's caliber can afford to stream for fun? Not everyone is like Reine, Ina, or Sana. Niji members tend to be poor people, no offense. They maybe a bit more motivated than Holos, which is good, but they really gotta work their asses off if they want their careers to go somewhere.

>> No.19695406

>>19695368
Messed link: >>19693159

>>19695380
P-Petra ;-(

>> No.19695414

>>19695347
I don't fuckin' know, the main list-anon uses 1am JST, this en-shit is up to whoever's bothering to keep track with it.

>> No.19695422

>>19695288
You seem disingenuous or misinformed. Pomu was very much of the opinion that she didn't have to participate in that collab she was going to drop out before she had a change of heart. Participation in voice packs is not mandatory many people didn't publish one for New Years, Elira for example declined to participate for being too busy. So if Rosemi is having trouble with deadlines thats on her.

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19695442

THIS is the motherfucker who was bragging about Nijisanji's success? The literal Sana of his Generation/Branch?

>> No.19695444

>>19695347
I generally give a little bit of a buffer, like 20 to 30 minutes after midnight but yes. I can't be waiting around all day for some fucker who started right before midnight to finish their stream, lol.

>> No.19695505

>>19695401
Considering most of NijiEN was indie vtubers streaming for fun making next to nothing for a year+ before they ever joined NijiEN yeah I think they can afford to stream for fun.

>> No.19695520

>>19695230
in reality, even someone who enjoys streaming would probably like being able to stream fewer hours since it would allow them to spend time on other activities related to content creation

>> No.19695566

What is IRyS even doing for her birthday? No build-up or announcement, she is going to do worse than Bae.

>> No.19695580

>>19695442
small dog syndrome

>> No.19695584

>>19695520
They can all spend less time streaming if they wanted to there is nothing stopping them, some of them go from streaming 30hrs one week to ten the next, the requirement is 3 pieces of content a week and even that can be ignored as seen when Pomu went on break.

>> No.19695614

>>19695442
it's like the guy with the least points on the winning team that types "ez"

>> No.19695624

>>19695442
he's probably jealous of sana lol

>> No.19695754

>>19695566
Holy shit you're right, her birthday is in a day.

>> No.19695771

>>19693778
>18k and mogging the 4 person collab
holy shit I doubt any holoen aside from Gura/Mori can get 18k with endurance. Vox is too strong bros..

>> No.19695804

>>19695234
kys

>> No.19695826

>>19695566
Releasing a cover.

>> No.19695831

>>19695771
Asian about to sleep now.

>> No.19695867

Does this count as a Cover for FBK for the purpose of nunberfaggotry?
https://youtube.com/shorts/bo-d5DD-qnY

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Nene will be back on the 8th

>> No.19696000
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19696000

Here is an image that’s even nostalgic
>he-Ayame, the Queen and the King sharing a slot and going at it head to head

>> No.19696044

What I have seen people talking about NijiEN, it seems the environment is really favorable for streaming.

They only have like 3 day quota, they can freely do other stuff, they get high SC, they have supporr from management, they get a big group to hang out.

The more I see, the more NijiEN is a better place for indies to audition for.

>> No.19696051

>>19696000
Also
>ElderSchizo in shambles

>> No.19696069

>>19695566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqrwHmo_sGg

>> No.19696091

>>19696044
kek you're fooling nobody reimu

>> No.19696095

>>19696069
Finally a cover

>> No.19696096

>>19695566
She's going to drop her first solo cover in 7 months. It probably is going to get some hype.

>> No.19696105

>>19695422
My point is there's a social context for everything. It is similar to Japan's nomikai culture. Sure, you can opt to not participate but there's a thing called peer pressure. In most cases, you don't want to be left out or risk being alienated by everyone and we can see a glimpse of this during Meira-Roa drama. Also, the system in Nijisanji is designed in a way that everyone is kinda forced to do things that may sometimes conflict with their principles. You may want to work on your own pace but can you afford it when everything including costumes and 3Ds are gated in subs? You think Luxiem lewdly pandering to fujos is one of their goals when they joined the group?

>> No.19696122
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Holy ratio

>> No.19696132

>>19696044
Hololive is guarantee success and bigger numbers for female indies though. However, I've been hearing from 2views lately that they would rather apply for Nijisanji because of their strong bond

>> No.19696149

>>19693977
cope, your femoid chuubas are outdated and outdone. It is the year of the cock

>> No.19696168

>>19695505
Pomu was having money problems which led to her breaking down on stream, right?

>> No.19696169

>>19696044
>they get high SC
Niji EN is not 20 Voxes

>> No.19696184

>>19696132
I agree, Nijisanji is just objectively the better company here

>> No.19696203

>>19694594
There's a difference between untalented and undriven. Sana doesn't see hololive as her primary career for obvious reasons so it seems she treats it as a hobby, though of course it's gotten worse this year since she's ramped up the >no streams. But when she does stream she's an engaging talent and, as far as holoartists, she's the best by a country mile

>> No.19696217

>>19696105
>My point is there's
This is just your headcanon though not facts.
>costumes and 3Ds are gated in subs
Goals that everyone in EN passes quite comfortably?
>You think Luxiem lewdly pandering to fujos is one of their goals when they joined the group?
The ones who don't want to do it don't? So yeah. It's not like they are being forced to or anything.

>> No.19696227

>>19696105
> similar to Japan's nomikai culture.
> Sure, you can opt to not participate but there's a thing called peer pressure. In most cases, you don't want to be left out or risk being alienated by everyone
Happens in the west as well. Opt out of the company Christmas dinner (or whatever similar function exists in your community) or refuse to go to the cafeteria to sing “happy birthday” to some rando you never crossed paths and all of a sudden you’re
> that loner that never gets invited to anything else anymore

>> No.19696231

>schizo back to shamelessly samefagging

>> No.19696238

>$10k before even hitting 400k
I'm going to fucking nuke Taiwan I swear to god

>> No.19696247

>>19696132
>strong bond
If you are female and fine being an accessory. Sure.

>> No.19696250

>>19693658
What? Another stars jp? The ones that have are on life support. I'm not even going to ask what they have to gain by doing that because there's nothing.

>> No.19696256

>>19696044
>High SC
anon youre letting the fujomoney get to your head, the Niji environment has its place and I'm sure the girls enjoy hanging out with friends all day but most of them make fuck all

>> No.19696292

Holy shit Vox just mogged Gura’s 20,384 kek

>> No.19696293

>>19696238
>taiwan

>> No.19696332

>>19695234
vox 21k btw

>> No.19696338

>>19696184
Not really, I don't think there is an objectively better company. It's really just what your preferences are at the end of the day. Plus, with how little HoloEN streams compared to the Niji girls, they obviously aren't worried about money.

>> No.19696343

>>19695442
he wants to be the least subbed NijiEN and set a bunch of retarted boundaries early on so that's why no one likes him

>> No.19696347

>>19696168
There was a big full branch Mario Kart collab and she didn't want to play it in it because she said she hated the game so she was going to talk to management to drop out. But she changed her mind and decided to play. Apparently she didn't hate it that much though because just a few weeks ago she was doing Mario Kart with viewers .

>> No.19696384

>>19695520
Precisely. Doing something as a hobby is completely different when it becomes a job.
It's like the difference between being forced not to go out during pandemic and not going out by choice because you're a fucking NEET.

>> No.19696392

>>19696238
Please hit the correct target.
Hint: They're using Proxies.

>> No.19696404

>>19696250
Well its either this or letting them stagnate into nothing.
In the past 6 months Cover has given homos:
-3D for all
-Their own concert
-added them to the big holopro expo and concert
-announced a new branch for them
-started EN auditions

Clearly, they're trying to get off their ass and give these lads a shot. And why wouldn't they? Roberu at least is doing as good a some ID talents. They're jokes compared to Holos and mid to upper tier nijis, but they do beat a fuckton of other corpo vtubers, male vtubers, and quite a few niji males too.

>> No.19696416

>>19696343
>he wants to be the least subbed NijiEN
that sounds like cope

>> No.19696522

>>19696416
he wrote a really fucking long chat rule telling everyone to fuck off if they want parasocial/pandering shit

>> No.19696531

At this point, I haven't really hated on any vtubers in general (yes even twitch ones), partly out of ignorance, but I now legitimately hate any full on fujo pandering vtubers. Not hating on Niji or male vtubers - Niji girls seem mostly fine, and I respect Kuzuha, even Mysta looks decent-ish, but Vox, man...

>> No.19696545

>>19695971
oh shit, from her free chat?

>> No.19696559

>>19696044
nijien is and will be a good place for male vtubers now, even if holostars en debut new male wave. Fans normally stick to the company they like.

>> No.19696571

>>19696531
Why? This is just reverse Rushia.

>> No.19696574

>>19696416
Not a cope. He really wants to be the least successful NijiEN

>> No.19696607

>>19696227
Precisely, anon. Having "freedom" to do things in a corpo setting is a meme because you're almost always be part of a group.
Holos can afford to be lax because sponsorships, audience, fame is easily obtainable.
Can you say the same to Nijisanji?

>> No.19696628

I guess we will see how HoloEN3 and next wave of NijiEN fare.
The perception is starting to change with how big NijiEN has gotten. And to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this NijiEN audition will have a lot more applicants than HoloWN open audition.
People are tired of Cover's style of management.

>> No.19696644

>>19696559
>wave

FUCKING KEK!

>> No.19696690

>>19696571
can't tell if anon is serious here

>> No.19696702

>>19696628
Now this. This is true cope.

>> No.19696703

Vox $20k
Again
Fucking hell
Congrats on winning March I guess

>> No.19696724

>>19696607
We still don't know about the sponsorship thing for NijiEN since there are months away.
There could be hundreds of sponsors waiting for Luxiem due to their success.

>> No.19696728

>>19693658
Sure this 3 models are not for Stars EN?

>> No.19696733

>>19696628
True only if you're a dude. If you're a female, you're doomed to be an accessory if you go to NijiEN.

>> No.19696735

>>19696531
I think its fine. It's not for me, but they are just doing the same shit GFE vtubers do for male audience but for a female audience. Hating them based on just that and not hating on the reverse made for your gender makes it seem like sour grapes that they are doing well.

>> No.19696744

when will fulgur stop spamming this thread?

>> No.19696746

>>19696571
I wasn't a Rushia fan, but Rushia's brand of GFE isn't comparable with Vox's equivalent.

>> No.19696777

>>19696531
Mysta has always been decent, people are just jumping to the train hate without even giving him a chance. He did a bit of fujobaiting but it was in the beginning because he played along with Vox who came up with FoxAkuma thing.

>> No.19696788

>>19696744
when he streams.

>> No.19696828

>>19696628
how "big" nijiEN? more like how big nijiMale en

go to nijien if you're male, the girls are no better than holoID

>> No.19696835

I wonder when western streamers will start noticing Luxien. It seems IronMouse is already opening the floodgate to introduce Luxiem to a wider NA streaming scene already.

Them being in Nijisanji only makes it easier for collabs.

>> No.19696847

>>19696735
>gender
oh no no no

>> No.19696877

>>19696828
nah, they're above holoID now, but yea. If you want a shot at the biggest success, you apply to both and go to HoloEN if you have the choice, but if you're tiny, going from 2 view to NijiEN is still an upgrade.

>> No.19696887

>>19696628
At the end of the day there is still brand loyalty. Most females still prefer to get into Holo, whereas men are applying to both. Even though NijiEN have inclined, Hololive is still the preferred company, and I'm saying this as a Niji fan

>> No.19696891

>>19696343
Seems like he's trying to play a bad boy character, the warewolf part in a Twilight fan fiction or whatever without knowing it just doesn't work that well with asian girls.

>> No.19696893

>>19696828
But you will get decent numbers. And NijiEN is not as controlled as HoloEN anyway. Girls are stupid if they go where there are rules to restrict them.

>> No.19696904

thread's iq is quickly approaching the negative numbers now

>> No.19696918

>>19696051
I know it’s a joke, but this actually shows a lot of the potential issues with Sekiro going forward. Across all Elden Ring streams, both EN and JP, there’s an enormous retention rate among them with big spikes even hours into the stream. Mori, Lamy and noel are inclining out the ass off it and even Botan managed to stay above 27k through all her fighting with the tree sentinel. Ina’s last ER got like 16k too didn’t she?

Meanwhile, Pekora has dropped like 1/3 of her viewers and has been tumbling down this entire time.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/30GbgsPpcqk
I wonder if apart from kids going to sleep that people are just not interested in Sekiro going forward.

>> No.19696943

>>19696877
Essentially, if you get reject from hololive, you can settle for Nijisanji if you are a girl.

>> No.19696958
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When are these bitches going to run out of money jesus wept

>> No.19696964

>>19696835
already working for Luca, saw more NA currencies for his superchats

>> No.19696982

>>19696887
Being in HoloEN is not much different compared to NijiEN now. HoloEN does not have that many sponsorships lately. And to be honest, if you just want to be a streamer and not some play-pretend singer/idol with stupid reps, just go to NijiEN.

>> No.19696999

>>19696522
Lmao that's like, /vt/ level cringe

>> No.19697015

Speaking of ID, is the ID vtubing scene declining?

Those are primarily targeting ID audiences don't seem to be doing well.

Some of it could be explained by CCV cull (which I've heard is somehow even worse for them than for holo EN and niji EN girls), but is there just not much interest in Indonesia for vtubers?

>> No.19697014

>>19696918
tmr is monday, purisu andastd

>> No.19697041

>>19695313
They must learn to embrace their new names

>> No.19697061

>>19696964
This is why Luxiem is smart by going from East to West. Vox is taking fort in East while ther others can slowly go West. It's only a matter of time before NijiEN is known worldwide.

>> No.19697063

>>19696733
Hey, it worked for petra 15k marioparty collab. Some of the females wouldn't mind that kind of incline. Plus the controversy boost tho...

>> No.19697089

>>19696982
Fauna just did a sponsored stream yesterday..

>> No.19697111

>>19696828
With the numbers that council do can you really say with confidence that another HoloEN gen of girls is going to be that much above NijiEN girls when it comes to viewership if they continue to compete for the same viewbase?

>> No.19697139

>>19696958
Dude this is the same shit people talk about with Chloe. These two have absolutely no business making this much money for doing essentially nothing. They simply exist and people feel like they have to donate to interact. It’s not even oil barons, these are just lonely fans who have zero control of their life/money. It’s pretty ridiculous. Like didn’t Chloe make more today for doing a singing stream than Miko did with a bday zatsu?

>> No.19697145

>>19697089
you're not supposed to answer to fulgur, let him have fun.

>> No.19697153

>>19696982
Anon, you retarded nigger.
Learn your YT reps, and that Jan+Feb are the weakest months for Ad rev + sponsorships.

>> No.19697163

>>19697089
Chump change sponsorship. Compare that to Vox $20k just doing RP asmr

>> No.19697183

>>19696964
chinese names donating dollars are as real as english names donating in ARS lol

>> No.19697189

>>19696982
Haha fucking what? Go ask any NijiEN girls right now that if they got accepted to go to Holo right now they would transfer 100%.

>> No.19697212

>>19697163
>Chump change sponsorship.
Fungus.. for fucks sake..

>> No.19697214

>>19697183
Cope.

>> No.19697228

>>19697163
Fulgur this is getting sad.

>> No.19697230

>>19697089
doesnt count

>> No.19697236

>>19697163
Fulgur will see at best 30% of that, sponsorships easily give more than that

>> No.19697250

>>19697163
yeah anon, i am waiting for vox's condom sponsorship / dildo sponsorship

>> No.19697254

>>19697153
>>19697089
>>19697189
You are all retarded, answering the obvious baitpost
kys.

>> No.19697263

>>19697111
Probably a lot lower. We have reached a cap already. Being in NijiEN is lot more beneficial now if you're a girl since you get access to a whole new market.

>> No.19697295
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>>19697254
many of them are just the baitposter samefagging

>> No.19697301

>>19697263
how is yugo's number compared to her genmates ?

>> No.19697321

>>19697139
Dude Chloe vs Vox is even a worse comparison than Rushia vs Vox. Chloe doesn't really pander (mostly just cute eigo "please subscwibe"), she's just fkn cute.

>> No.19697326

>>19696132
>I've been hearing from 2views lately that they would rather apply for Nijisanji
My experience is a bit different from yours. People I know seem to prefer Hololive or if not just go indie. I don't think real people would prefer "chemistry," which is highly likely a meme parroted by the shills, over money, which you can immediately check if you go watch streams.
It's a consensus that if you wanna be rich, go Hololive. I don't think Nijisanji is famed for having a good working environment considering their scandals involving bullying that happened not only in JP but also in KR too.

>> No.19697334

>>19697263
zhang market? They're not interested in girls, at least not the luxiem zhangs.

>> No.19697418

>>19697295
you think thats bad, that a look at these (easy list >>19652644)
>>19648939
>>19649010
>>19649082
>>19649416
>>19649420
>>19649618
>>19649763
>>19649843
>>19649902
>>19649966
>>19650063
>>19650109
>>19650160
>>19650206
>>19650265
>>19650283
>>19650322
>>19650396
>>19650507
>>19650529
>>19650538
>>19650558
>>19650625
>>19650684
>>19650689
>>19650716
>>19650792
>>19650858
>>19650910

>> No.19697424
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19697424

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>72,274: Hayase (Nijisanji)
>41,807: Akina (Nijisanji)
>37,046: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,300: Lamy (Hololive)
>25,151: Korone (Hololive)
>23,466: Miko (Hololive)
>22,978: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,398: Vox (Nijisanji)
>21,000: Hayase (Nijisanji)
>20,330: Gura (Hololive)
>18,638: Miko (Hololive)
>18,437: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,804: Petra (Nijisanji)
>15,285: Calli (Hololive)
>15,061: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,523: Lui (Hololive)
>13,101: Noel (Hololive)
>12,594: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,574: Mito (Nijisanji)
>12,166: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,024: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,923: Mio (Hololive)
>11,916: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,230: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,775: Watame (Hololive)
>10,317: Fubuki (Hololive)

>> No.19697422

>>19697212
>>19697228
>>19697236
The absolute max going rate for sponsored Twitch streams at least is $1 per viewer per hour and Fauna streamed to 3k people for 80 minutes

>> No.19697438

>>19695442
seeing those subs, are NijiEN trying to do a holo style box push?
How many waves would they be able to tank before the fanbase splits into cliques like NijiJP?

>> No.19697456

>>19696531
Even the queen - Utako was disgusted by how low Vox would go when he panders to fujo.

>> No.19697465

>>19697424
So Vox > Gura confirmed?
rumao. cumkeks in shambles

>> No.19697480

>>19697189
How do you know? Did you see anyone going from Niji to Holo after Luna? Even NijiJP females do not want to move. These days, you prefer to be in NijiEN than HoloEN with how many restrictions HoloEN have.

>> No.19697479

>>19697422
Chump change just like I said

>> No.19697491

Pekora can't parry shit so she's stuck at the first real obstacle of the game, I'm not sure if she'll ever be able to beat him even after a few hours on it.

>> No.19697520
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>>19696958
400k achieved and another 20k for Vox

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>>19697418
You're like a little baby. Watch this.

>> No.19697550

>>19697465
Yes of course anon, he's also a much more popular streamer than Miko, Fubuk, Mori and Chloe because he got 20k on a celebration. Luckily he could not surpass the invincible juggernaut that is Hayase and Akina

>> No.19697582

>>19697465
Vox is now the face of EN. King of EN CCV and SC. Gura who? Just another whore who will be Vox's onahole accessory

>> No.19697595

>>19697438
No, because NijiEN fans emulate HoloJP fandom, which is DD most of the time.

>> No.19697604

>>19697480
>Did you see anyone going from Niji to Holo after Luna?
Hima was kinda blatant about it when she appeared on Polka's show. Even Hoshikawa low-key praised how professional the staffs are in Hololive as compared to Nijisanji.

>> No.19697607

>>19695614
Aaaah, I'm getting pissed off from flashbacks about this. And the guy with the most kills and damage, usually the chillest one saying gg wp.

>> No.19697617

>>19697422
she had 44k views anonchama

>> No.19697622

Nijiniggers are trying way too hard as usual.

>> No.19697630

>>19692875
>>19694669

her menhera was way too strong, singing is fine and all but can you imagine Aloe as a functional member dealing with the zhang drama or the janitors shit or some other thing specific to her, I guess in best scenerio she would turn into another Shion.

>> No.19697640

>>19697422
> twitch
You do realize that you're comparing an apple to an orange right? Next you're going to claim that ads on youtube are as shit as they are on twitch.

And most twitch sponsorships go through twitch(them getting their blood money), unless you are a part of an org.

Get back to me when you have some youtube example, before that you can be labeled as a retard.

>> No.19697662

>>19697622
fungus covid is angry pls andastand

>> No.19697663

Am I still banned?

>> No.19697665

>>19697604
But they didn't graduate or go anywhere. Are you stupid? They were joking.

>> No.19697683
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>>19697539
fuck youve beaten the egg one

>> No.19697685
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>>19697424
>MARCH 2022 GOLD
1) Botan (Hololive) - 38,974 - Vampire Survivors
2) Nene (Hololive) - 91,087 - Birthday 3D Live
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,971 - ARK Collab
4) Roboco (Hololive) - 52,777 - Anniversary 3D Live
5) Miko (Hololive) - 125,971 - Birthday 3D Live
6) Hayase (Nijisanji) - 72,274 - 3D Debut

>> No.19697709

>>19697663
Dangit

>> No.19697733

>>19697663
I've been expecting you, anon.

>> No.19697743

Can we agree that indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their 3rd option?

>> No.19697772

>>19697263

Considering how "successful" Sana is despite not streaming at all, I'm pretty sure girls still vastly prefer joining HoloEN lol

Even outside of outliers like Sana and Gura, Holo EN still gets at least 2x numbers of Niji EN girls, and I'm being generous with the numbers here.

>> No.19697773
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>>19697685
>futa

>> No.19697780

>>19697422
> Fulgur is a twitchfag
why am I not surprised.
Was he a twitch streamer in his PL?

>> No.19697791

>>19697743 (You)
yes we can

>> No.19697812

>>19697424
Corrected, I wish that I wouldn't have to do this, but nijiniggers force my hand.

>72,274: Hayase (Nipplesanji)
>41,807: Akina (Nipplesanji)
>37,046: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,300: Lamy (Hololive)
>25,151: Korone (Hololive)
>23,466: Miko (Hololive)
>22,978: Kuzuha (Nipplesanji)
>21,398: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>21,000: Hayase (Nipplesanji)
>20,330: Gura (Hololive)
>18,638: Miko (Hololive)
>18,437: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,804: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>15,285: Calli (Hololive)
>15,061: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,523: Lui (Hololive)
>13,101: Noel (Hololive)
>12,594: Fuwa (Nipplesanji)
>12,574: Mito (Nipplesanji)
>12,166: Furen (Nipplesanji)
>12,024: Nijinigger (Nipplesanji)
>11,923: Mio (Hololive)
>11,916: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,230: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,775: Watame (Hololive)
>10,317: Fubuki (Hololive)

>> No.19697815

>>19697743
those who wants paypigs goes for holo, those who actually enjoy streaming will obviously go to nijiEN

>> No.19697837

>>19697743
Reminds me of the person who went to Versen after being the finalists for HoloX

>> No.19697867

>>19697812
say anon, if Lauren comebacks, what would you name him ?

>> No.19697870

>>19697743
>Please guys just accept my retarded theories

>> No.19697877

Man, Niji3D debut is taking way too long. At this rate, NijiJP will have another wave and the 3D list will get much longer.

>> No.19697881

>>19697815
Is this what you tell yourself Nijinigger?

>> No.19697882

>>19697743
2 view females
Holo>Niji>small corpos>stay indie
big females
Holo>stay indie>Niji
males
Niji>>>>>Holo>stay indie

>> No.19697894
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>>19697685
Impressive numbers

>> No.19697896
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>> No.19697898

>>19697881
come back when your girls actually streams

>> No.19697904

As usual Nijinigger unity is flawless. While Vox gets high views his genmates and kouhai are there to support him with massive shitpost bombardments on /#/. I kneel to their logistics.

>> No.19697907

>>19692461
>tester

what kind of test is it when somebody almost always have above average numbers? They might look at her because she's a numberfag and have high standards for her streams I guess.

>> No.19697922

>>19697867
Dainipple

>> No.19697973

>>19697904
Nijis always have a stronger business acumen and tech. All Cover has is dumb luck and SOUL.

>> No.19697985

>>19697773
>>19697894
kek, didn't look attentively enough to the pic and missed that small (actually big) detail

>> No.19698002

>>19697898
Come back when Vox stop whoring himself to fujo for money

>> No.19698005

>>19697922
good one, I'll do that.

>> No.19698060
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19698060

shut the FUCK up and post ran-chan or take it elsewhere

>> No.19698070

>>19698002
come back when Rushia sucks your wallet dry with GFE when she's actually fucking mafumafu oh wait

>> No.19698075

>>19697743
most likely, hololive fans and cover corp don't really care about vtubers so only super ironic weebs and normal fags will apply to them eventually making them soulless.

>> No.19698081

Btw Kiara 8k 2nd play elder ring. This game really buff in the west.

>> No.19698093

The manwhore if niji sucks at asmr.
But i guess is an unfilled niche.

>> No.19698123

>>19697595
uh, that's pretty much what I said, but from the fans POV.
The question still remains though. Holo grew from 4 JP gens (+Gamers) at the start into 6JP(+1) + 2ID + 2EN over the course of two years.
NijiEN has gone from 0 to 20 (with 5 more coming) and it hasn't even been a full year.

It's not just about fanbases though, it's also about the livers themselves being able to get to know each other a lot better. Selen for example seems to be completely on her own (+her Apex mates mb) so it already shows the beginnings of Nijiclique formation.

>> No.19698124

>>19698002
small numbers cope. numbers are numbers doesn't matter how you get it.

>> No.19698198

>>19692547
Yeah, Pekora deserves everything she achieves.

>> No.19698215

>>19694067
she's pretty much operating like a niji JP member, they have tons of part-timers over there. If they knew it will end like this they should have debut six members for EN2 but I guess that's IRyS.

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>>19697812

>> No.19698248

>>19698124
Might as well have sex on stream. Then again vix was doing licking ear asmr some minutes ago so he isnt that far.

>> No.19698279

>>19698081
>8k
>buff
Do Holokeks really? Vox just absolutely mogged the competition just doing a talking stream and you think your measly 8k is a buff stream? RUMAO

>> No.19698289

>>19697685
Back to Holo domination again for the new week, Niji blew everything tonight

>> No.19698302

>>19697743
Like this anon said >>19697882 except I wouldn't say it's a consensus for males to join Niji.
Niji males are completely different to western male streamers.
This is actually the first time I saw males could go so low when they bait for money. I don't think I've seen any male streamer more disgusting than them. Even those that stream in Chaturbate appear more dignified. I feel I'm not alone with this sentiment.

>> No.19698305

>>19697743
Nah, they go to Niji after being rejected by holo. Just like Shu.

>> No.19698308

>>19698123
Judging by ethyra and noctys they are running themselves into a wall.

>> No.19698332

Is Vox the most super chatted vtuber of 2022 so far? If he isn't, who is?

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>>19697424
This girl has so few lewds man

>> No.19698339

>>19698123
Yeah, what happened to that purple chick? No one talked about her anymore.

>> No.19698380

>>19698302
Only vox is like that. Mysta is a degenrate that use gay jokes but nit even he goes as far as vox. Unfortunately it is vox that is carrying the gen.

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>>19697424
> TKDD4
kek that capcha

>> No.19698401

>>19698124
I would agree with you if not for the fact that the original argument is about going to Holo for paypigs and Niji for love of streaming

>> No.19698417

>>19698339
She streams to 2k-3k when solo

>> No.19698418

>>19698279
Fungus your celebration stream going to run out eventually, enjoy while it last.

>> No.19698419

>>19698332
Gura

>> No.19698425

>>19698123
Here's the thing anon, most of NijiEN's current hires were already friends with Elira and her group. That's why they were able to get along so fast.
The more people are hired, the higher chances they're not from Elira's clique.

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>>19697424
last good one

>> No.19698502

>>19698425
was Fungus-kun also from her clique? if yes, that's not a good sign for their future...

>> No.19698524 [DELETED] 

>>19698123
Well we already know that the girls and boys in Niji EN have dramatically different fan bases.

I know Niji is generally more fractured than Holo, but does Niji JP is show similar audience differences b/w girls and boys.

>> No.19698526

>>19696203
I guess she does some art for hololive perhaps even for free, having artist of this calliber on your team is a boon but it's sad that she doesn't even seem to try as a holo anymore.

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>>19697424

>> No.19698571

>>19697622
The worst thing about Niji males is the annoying fans coming with it.

>> No.19698573

>>19698123
Well we already know that the girls and boys in Niji EN have dramatically different fan bases.

I know Niji is generally more fractured than Holo, but does Niji JP show similar audience differences b/w girls and boys?

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>>19698333
> wasn't even her
fucking wrong tagging faggots
here's the real last one

>> No.19698591

>>19698401
>love of streaming
Is this another one of those forced memes?
People here only talk about "quality" when they don't have numbers to back them up.

>> No.19698592

>>19698551
wtf pochi drew her ? that's some good shit right there

>> No.19698603

>>19696918
The simple answer is Flare is also streaming Sekiro and plays better than her. Also, it's a Monday tomorrow.

>> No.19698625

>>19698573
There is a reaon niji is so top heavy

>> No.19698628

Is Chloe gonna be second to vox for monthly SCs from now on? She can't seem to get 20k ccv at all for a LONG time too.

>> No.19698655

>>19698571
No, all niji en are here not just their fans.

>> No.19698675

>>19698551
Pochi-mama, I miss you so fucking much!

>> No.19698679

>>19698308
from the viewer POV, yeah.
I was thinking about the liver POV.
Obsydia and Ethyria (except Selen, and Rosemi? idk if she interacts with the males) seem to be fine with interacting with each other, at least right now.
I actually forgot the name of the 3rd Obsydia member and had to look her up in the wiki...

>> No.19698696

>>19698628
Where are your figures?

>> No.19698699

>>19698655
I didn't mean just /here/

>> No.19698701

>>19697015
>Indies are barely streaming or not providing any contents regularly
>Corpos doesn't know how to milk paypigs
>Stupid insistence streaming on YT instead of Nimo tv
>Not collabing with big YouTubers (except for mythia)
>dogshit infrastructure Internet is getting more expensive but the speed is barely improving
>PC games companies still ignoring the indog market by not providing translations and thus when vtubers are playing PC games nobody is watching kek

>> No.19698721

>>19696918
You gotta account in the fact that this is technically not the first time she play Sekiro, same goes for Flare.
Meanwhile Elden Ring is a brand new game, people would more likely to stay for new things rather than the same old thing

>> No.19698760

>>19694594
there's at least 9 more months to go before they debut another gen, meaning at least 6 months before they start finalizing the members.
Sana will just need to stream like once a week or something before that time, for her black mark to go away.

>> No.19698761

Flare is actually pretty good.
(I haven't played this game yet)

>> No.19698781

I can't believe Elirabis a daisenpai now before a year ends. She is truly the trailblazer.

I wonder when she retires, she can replace Riku as Anykara CEO, because her influence is kinda big.

>> No.19698791

>>19698628
Huh? She got like $20k two weeks ago. Nearly $20k last week.

If members-only streams count, I think Chloe actually edged out Vox for Feb SCs (or at least super close).

>> No.19698803

>>19698418
Holobronies, maybe it's beyond your imagination since your oshi's sub growth rate is too low, but at current rate, Vox clearly can get at least one +50K sub celebration per month, not to mention Twitter followers, birthday, anniversary, half-anniversary, and various other occasions

>> No.19698833

>>19697326
Chemistry is a meme. At the end of the day, you're still the new transfer student. You might mix well with your new co-workers, you might not. Going to Nijisanji because you think it's a good way to make new friends is just sad

>> No.19698837

>>19698791
> streams her biggest paydays in member streams so that the competition thinks they have a chance
This Orca is doing some Sun Tzu shit

>> No.19698860

>>19698803
Vox might catch up or even surpass Gura sometime next year.

>> No.19698870

>>19698701
sadge

Come on Indonesia, you more than double Japan's population

>> No.19698890

>>19698551
>ear is covered
Pochi's learning

>> No.19698891

>>19697630
>best scenerio she would turn into another Shion.
I disagree. As long as she didnt turn out to be a cunt, Aloe would have a greater support network within Cover. Right now, I think she’s too dependent on chat. Like a Mikeneko in the making. Better to have hags like Polka and Botan able to guide her professionally with support from other holos and staff. She still might end up like Shion but all things considered, Shion’s position isn’t bad and she does get support

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>>19698860
heh

>> No.19698933

is this the holocope thread?
i think i am in the right place

>> No.19698938

>>19698870
Unfortunately, when it comes to having huge natural resources yet lacking in actually knowing how to use manage it effectively is a common story in Indonesia, not just for vtubing

>> No.19698939

/#/ is declining.

>> No.19698949

>>19698701
>PC games companies still ignoring the indog market
there has to be at least one of two games that have ID subtitles

>> No.19698991

>>19698933
>>19698420
Your insecurity is showing, fungus

>> No.19699016

>>19698860
Funnily enough, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. Gura is like completely averse to pandering or does almost everything she can to discourage SCs, yet somehow she still gets plenty.

I say this as a chumbud too

>> No.19699033

>>19698701
>PC games companies still ignoring the indog market by not providing translations
Does it matter though? Those who have a PC strong enough to play those games have to know English.

>> No.19699068

>>19698701
About mythia, Sorry not collabing but more like getting their attention and included in their videos

>> No.19699073

Nijisanji currently has Japan and China by the balls with a potential 100 million fans.
Hololive, on the other, is doing idol reps and not streaming at all.

Doesn't this feel like 2020 Hololive vs Nijisanji, but in reverse?

>> No.19699103

>>19697630
The thing is it's the pressure from her own family as well. But well she is a ticking bomb.

>> No.19699142

>>19699073
???

>> No.19699174

>>19699142
fungus overdosed on shrooms probably

>> No.19699183

>>19699016
Imagine living in a world where Vox is the most subbed vtuber on Earth with 10 million subs.

>> No.19699222

>>19698628
>>19698696
>>19698791
Going by figures for public streams from Playboard, so far Chloe has made around34.1k$ in March (slightly more that that, but I rounded it down by only less than 100$). In comparison, Vox has made 32.8k$ by yesterday, and another 20.4k$ today, bringing him to around 53.2k$, 19.1k$ ahead of hers. While Vox's normal stream earns less than Chloe, his buffed streams (ASMR, SC Zatsu, Celebration) make shit tons of money (this is the second 20k+$ streams he has this month). It's extremely likely that Vox will be ahead of Chloe, at the very least in term of SC, unless he stops doing buffed contents for some weird reasons

>> No.19699248

>>19698949
Well, even a game that was made by Indonesian studio doesn't have Bahasa Indonesia as an option at release (i.e. Coffee Talk, it took more than year before it eventually has Bahasa Indonesia).

>> No.19699283

>>19699222
nah he will now do SPECIAL ASMR STREAM SEX WITH ALL NIJIEN MEMBERS (girls included)

>> No.19699288

>>19699183
Maybe not the biggest sub-wise but can see him being the highest in SC, basically male EN Rushia.

>> No.19699409

>>19699248
...I guess Ollie was right that in Indonesia only the absolute loser type shitters are the ones that don't know english...

>> No.19699467

>>19699073
Lol check the daily tallies, schizo

>> No.19699478

Is 401k subs and $24k not enough for this greedy faggot? Why is he still going?

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This VSPO girl is a machine, just look at her streaming time.
I think this is the reason why Nijisanji females are quickly losing their relevance. VSPO has stolen their market.

>> No.19699565

>>19698791
Where's that 20k ccv though?

>> No.19699596

>>19699248
now that is based game studio.

>> No.19699599

>>19699531
> Nijisanji females are quickly losing their relevance
>streaming time
Is this also why Council is losing their relevance?

>> No.19699648

>>19699599
You don't even have to stream in EN if you wanna beat your competition. See Sana's metrics. That's how inferior Nijis are.

>> No.19699704

Fungus Covid sure is agitated today huh

>> No.19699732

>>19697867
NippleLord. 乳首のねじれ先生

>> No.19699751

>>19699222
The age of Orca is unironically over...

>> No.19699771

>>19699531
>Shinomiya has insane streaming hours
>Mimi has insane streaming hours
>both are tiny purple women

>> No.19699785

>>19697582
>Vox is now the face of EN
god, nijinigger are realy pathetic and they won't even watch him. Just >90% are chinks females

>> No.19699789

>>19699648
True... but I please Cover, don't hire another Sana

(I will break my knees and kneel if Sana somehow inclines this year after she finishes her internal and roommate work)

>> No.19699788

If I made a penny for every Nijicope posted today in this very thread I'd earn as much as Vox

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Mimi, like most of the VSPO girls, has really inclined. I think she gets good numbers at these hours. Not even a star like Honma could even match her now.

>> No.19699811

>>19699648
>>19699531
kek
holonigger exposed himself

>> No.19699860

>>19699811
Truth hurts? That's how we roll in numbers thread.

>> No.19699871

>>19699704
Its kinda sad to see him take Vox' success as his own. Especially since he's Vox' counterpart and has the same mama lmao

>> No.19699892

So... what are the best timeslots for EN vtubers?

>> No.19699895

>>19699222
>unless he stops doing buffed contents for some weird reasons
If Vox actually gets shamed out of it, it's over.

>> No.19699902

>>19699811
you need another drama nijinniger?

>> No.19699944

>>19699892
Depends on the audience demographic

>> No.19699952

So, let me get this straight, we just had:
>Viewers Gold: Nijisanji
>Viewers EN Gold: Nijisanji EN
>Superchat Gold: Nijisanji
>Superchat EN Gold: Nijisanji EN

Oh, no... Oh, no no no...
Holosisters, how can we defeat Nijisanji?
They are inclining hard.

>> No.19699956

>>19699809
I wish Toto would find a way to incline as well...

>> No.19699974

>>19699892
NA is night of course. the problem is thats Gura prime time

>> No.19699984

>>19696964
Those are Mainland Chinese using proxys. Seriously look at the messages and the names.

>> No.19700023

>>19699956
We take the small wins, anon. VSPO is truly inclining. I'm sure she'll find a way.

>> No.19700068

>>19699984
They don't have any competition in the land of pooh. Why?

>> No.19700070

>>19699895
>Vox actually gets shamed out of it
And he won't give a shit. The fucker's genuinely unhinged and shameless. Probably worst case of utter shamelessness in vtube history.

>> No.19700078

>>19699599
Cant have relevance when they don't even stream

>> No.19700097

>>19699892
>what are the best timeslots for EN vtubers?
Around Lamy slot, in which Gura sometimes gets good numbers

>> No.19700115

I'll be quick, I'm one of the nijiEN talents who doesn't like some of the Operations done by other members and staff on /vt/ in their spare time. We do use the advice here judging by how adamant some staff asked us to do this and that, but anyway, I don't really like /vt/ or NijiEN. Lost the passion months ago. I just want to finish my 1-year contract and leave.

By "War" when Pomu said it in the leaks, it's the cliques that are happening in our branch and other branches right now. We don't really get a monthly salary, only the cuts from Youtube ads, merch, and SCs but some people here already quit their jobs and went full-time streaming since it's more profitable than their previous job.

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Ars is surprisingly still doing well despite spamming Valo and Apex most of the time.

>> No.19700129

>>19699952
>So, let me get this straight, we just had:
>Nijinniggers need to start shitposting
>Seaniggers need to start shitposting
>Chinks and Zhangs need to start shitposting
this why nijiniggers will never be relevant on NA and europe if the keep pandering chinks only

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m-milestone is a buff content?

>> No.19700178

>>19700129
holosis we have to do something

>> No.19700182

>>19700120
This is Ars usual slot, used to share it with Watame in the past before Watame fell for the “singer” meme

>> No.19700191

>>19699895
If he keeps this up for another couple of months he'll be basically set for life and at that point I don't know why you'd continue whoring yourself out to Chinese women non-stop, it must be soul crushing

>> No.19700230

>>19700172
OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHA

Wanna bet some of the boys will join in to pump her up?

>> No.19700238

>>19700120
holy shit her hairstyle in that outfit is cute as fuck

>> No.19700247

>>19700178
the truth hurt nijinnigger

>> No.19700266

>>19700070
Vox does not give a shit about self-respect or dignity; for himself or his co-workers. He's in it for the grift and he knows it's not going to last long so he's going to bleed as much as he can out of those chink fujos before the party ends.

>> No.19700293

>>19700266
Based manwhore

>> No.19700295

>>19700172
She could get better numbers if she hadn't started the stream at 2 a.m. in Japan.

>> No.19700299

>niji have a good day
>they shit up the thread
>niji have a bad day
>they shit up the thread
its all so tiresome

>> No.19700300

>>19698701
Internet still sucks, societal pressure to have family is still strong which make less time between family work and hobbies, fickle nature more fickle than en fans, adult watching anime is looked down upon, that makes children and students are the biggest contributor in livestream ecosystem here. You need to target them if you want big number, but beware cancer. That's my conclusion

>> No.19700329

>>19700172
Only if you whore yourself out like vox

>> No.19700334

>>19700115
Lol sure. We'll see if anyone graduates after their 1 year contract ends

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It's fascinating how this menhera managed to outlive Rushia. Her numbers right now looks really good.

>> No.19700417

>>19700191
It's not soul crushing if he doesn't have a soul

>> No.19700432

>>19700299
this is why nijiniggers should be banned and go back to /jp/ with that stupid menhera.

>> No.19700451

>>19700343
ma2li might be a menhera but she knows enough not to leak anything to the third party.

>> No.19700471

>>19699073
Fungus, nobody likes you, go away

>> No.19700476

https://youtu.be/-7ccp3SdfR4?t=353

kek she slipped up right in the first stream

>> No.19700495

>>19699789
The only way for her to incline, would be that Cover somehow reveals some if not all of her behind the scenes works, and depending on the importance of her work she might or might not get an incline out of it. If it's something all of the fans will appreciate, she might incline heavily after that.

>> No.19700516

Hololive is gonna need to bring out the furry male EN member to counter the Nijiniggers fujos

>> No.19700525

>>19700299
Thought it's a thread where you're supposed to take a shit, no?

>> No.19700543

>>19700432
>>19700299
>>19700247
>>19700115
holy faggotry
do holosisters really?

take a look at the numbers sisters
you got fucked hard today
probably the only way trannies like you can get fucked anyway

>> No.19700549

>>19700334
I will laugh if pomu leave just to get enter on Holo EN3 so she can play with kiara. This would be almost like Luna...not the same of course

>> No.19700568

>>19700525
nta but it's tiresome when there's no tact to it

>> No.19700588

>>19700543
nijinniger meds pls.

>> No.19700617

>>19700451
>goes to a dramatuber anyway

>> No.19700635

>Akina 4.5m yen
>Vox 3m yen
>Hayase 2.5m yen
>Luca 2m yen
>Toya 1.5m yen
>Miko & Chloe 1m yen
Absolutely ridiculous day for superchats

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>>19700343 (me)
I think she's gonna incline like how Towa did. Her numbers this year are looking really great. Going back to the Holo box is always a reliable option if you wanna incline.

>>19700451
True.

>> No.19700660

>>19700543
>>19697685

>> No.19700659

>>19696238
that winnie the pooh plan after fall of russia

>> No.19700661

>>19700191
Soul crushing shame doesn't exist for a true sociopath.

>> No.19700666

>>19700115
Sounds like a larp to me.

>> No.19700683

>>19700525
i miss graph anon
guess even he got tired from calling out shitposters

>> No.19700721

>>19700191
Soul crushing for you maybe but I think Vox unironically enjoys being a whore kek

>> No.19700749

>>19700115
Can you at least post higher resolution of the exact same leak picture that everyone and their already see?
Spoiler: you can't.

>> No.19700787

>>19700721
>army of Chinese fujos are drolling over you
Understandable but still gross.

>> No.19700818

>>19700115
Nice rrats. Please include numbers next time so that you'll stay on-topic.

>> No.19700850

Next thread
>>19700751

>> No.19700856

>>19700191
>it must be soul crushing
He probably rationalizes it by divorcing the vtuber from himself so whatever debasing shit he does as Vox ends when his stream ends (and eventually, forever when he quits).

>> No.19700888

>>19700549
This isn't happening. Luna left when there were a squintillion Niji talents. One NijiEN jumping ship to Holo (or viceversa) would be MASSIVE and result in so much tribalfaggotry

>> No.19700925

>>19700495
It would have to be something significant enough for people to want to trip over each other to kneel and apologize. Otherwise, they're gonna look at that shit and think that she should have just streamed.

>> No.19700928

>>19700818
>>19700749
>>19700543
>>19700334
Easy to bait and easy to spot actual nijiEN staff/talents kek

>> No.19700949

>>19700888
What about a trade?

> Pomu for Ollie to strengthen NijiID

>> No.19700989

>>19700888
Not really, considering the state of NijiEN females.

>> No.19701002 [DELETED] 

Next Thread >>19700773

>> No.19701017

>>19700949
>Terribly lopsided in favor of Holo
That's not how trades work anon

>> No.19701021

>>19700928
That's at least 4 of em out 113 ips.

>> No.19701053

>>19700115
Hi Rosemi, sorry we called you a nigger that one time

>> No.19701055

>>19701002
See >>19700850

>> No.19701074

>>19700949
Selen for Sana please

They even have close CCV and subs!

I just want one good FPS gamer in holo EN (no, Ame isn't that great, even if she's the best FPS gamer there)

>> No.19701103

>>19701017
Pomu + Hoshikawa for Matsuri + Ollie, with all keeping their models

>> No.19701104

>>19700949
You can't be an idol without tits.

>> No.19701119

>>19701074
NOOOOO NOT MY FREE DOODLE DRAWING ARTIST!!

>> No.19701146

>>19701017
>Terribly lopsided in favor of Holo
What the fuck are you talking about; Ollie weighs a fuck ton more than Pomu.

>> No.19701153

>>19701074
That would hurt both companies. Pretty much an all negative trade

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>>19701104

>> No.19701279

>>19700172
Don't worry guys the females are totally inclining without being male accessories

>> No.19701331

>>19701279
TBF I think they did incline in Jan and early Feb due to Luxiem, but then they stalled out again.

>> No.19701371

>>19697877
I wonder if Edengumi will skip ahead of LazuLight when it's time.

>> No.19701404

>>19697877
NijiJP still hasn't resumed their old weekly 3D debut schedule?

>> No.19701438

>>19701146
Yeah cause she is obese

>> No.19701504

>>19701438
hey at least ollie keeps her tits right ?

>> No.19701558

>>19701146
>A-tier accessory currently inclining (barely, but still) with dedicated fan artists who might or not migrate with her.
vs
>Bottom tier Holo on a bottom tier branch who reclined out of the top spot of her gen (now Reine), whose biggest assets are a bunch of clipniggers, indie ID leeches and Bronze Apex autism.

>> No.19701584

>>19699222
I'll be looking forward to the "Daily Vox update" of him mogging established chuubas then

>> No.19701612

>>19701404
I think they're starting up again. Today was the first one in 72 days.

>> No.19701761

>>19700115
> other branches
bullshit, the only "other branch" members NijiEN has contact with are that Oliver guy from JP and Mika from ID.
Why would cliques forming in other branches bother EN livers?

>> No.19702035

>>19701584
He's still a ways off because Chloe's first month or so was so ridiculous while Luxiem took a while to reach their full strength. Today's stream took him to where Chloe was on December 30th, 20 days after she was monetized while it's been 71 days for Vox.

>> No.19702355

>>19700182
Watame still uses this timeslot on most days. At least watch streams, anon.

>> No.19702401

>>19700635
And apparently Mineneko with 6 million yen on top (unconfirmed)

>> No.19702433

>>19700343
Matsuri is more of a self destructive menhera as opposed to Rushia who is more of a vindictive and manipulative menhera.

>> No.19702705

did the SEANijinigger go to sleep?

>> No.19702796
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>>19702705
He's streaming. Nice debut buff numbers btw, Covid

>> No.19702945

>>19702796
> started 2 hours ago
> same time the schizoposting stopped
kek

>> No.19702996

>>19702796
isn't this the same kind of numbers that shu and luca normally got?

>> No.19703090

>>19702945
The meds do not help, i'm more and more convinced that i'm actually getting under the skin of an actual nijilivernigger.

>> No.19703390

Predictions for Vox reaching 1M subs?

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