/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19682470
>if you bully him to graduation you'll be just like them!
basically

>>19682561
LMAO none of you can bully him into graduation. Holofags are all bark and no bite.

Look at this little nigga haha he's so short!

>>19682953
5 ppl commented in his chat and they were all drown out lol that's the most relevant /vt/ is

>>19682470
Objectively he's right and said nothing wrong. Council are in a very comfortable position, but they're no myth or HoloX. Cover is now trying to get into the male EN market now that Luxiem showed there are woman willing to throw money at male western chuubas.

>>19682953
The amount of Holo fans that actually want to bully anyone into graduation can be counted on two hands. That's more than can be said of Niji fans. Bullying vtubers into graduation is more up your alley. You have experience with it after all. Glad I'm not a subhuman like that.

>>19682953
Most Holo fans don't go out of their way to do that because they're not petty faggots like Nijiniggers. You and your oshis are exactly the same. The again, I've always had this saying that a trash youtuber tends to attract a trash audience.

>>19683314
It's worth mentioning Nijis seem very eager to want Mori with them too.
That in return means their fans might want Mori to be part of Niji.
You could say, they have Trash Taste.

>>19683314
As much as we'd like to take credit for taking down that Aloe whore, actually both of us worked together for that, Holofriends. Looking forward for another unity moment like that.

>>19683234
>>19683314
The threads bullying Finana right now say otherwise. And she didn't even say anything wrong, unlike the Covid guy.

>>19682470
Nobody knows who he is, Nijisanji in general being less popular in the west means it gets an underdog bonus plus less attention.

The irony of this whole thing is being smaller might be what saves them. Well at least their job.

>>19682470
because nobody really cared about nijiniggers outside sea and chinks

>>19683234
WEAK

>>19683436
Yeah, but she's not going to get cancelled or bullied into graduation. If anything, this nothingburger drama will die down in a week and everyone will go back to being horny for the fish.

>>19683314
Pretty much this.

>>19683436
Her only fault was being a numberfag which is a sin that carries it's own weight but it's really amusing how everyone is making multiple edits with her and Sana or Council. Makes me curious who made the initial connection and everyone just followed blindly, and if said followers even read the discord leak in the first place but don't care.

>>19683501
>and everyone will go back to being horny for the fish.
Nah livers will forever be a scapegoat for any shitposting and now with a source showing they are bitter. There won't be a constant push to graduate them all (well maybe that Fulgur guy), but they are what they are. The real concern should be if they learn from this and delete that dumb unofficial discord.

By all accounts noctyx is shaping up to be the council to Luxiems Myth. The fact that this fag, who might as well be the Sana of his branch, said this, is hilarious

>>19683580
It's weird, because she's not the least subbed, nor is she the most subbed, nor is she the closest in subcount that is still below Sana's (which would be Elira). She's dead in the middle in terms of numbers, yet she got a ton of hate for no reason.

>>19683623
>you're not supposed to point out things!

>>19683607
>The real concern should be if they learn from this and delete that dumb unofficial discord.
Probably the worst thing they could do. Deprives them of an emotional outlet (something Mysta desperately needs), and even if they did, people wouldn't believe them anyways, or they'd believe that they just created a new server somewhere else. Might as well just keep it around and never talk about it; it makes no difference either way.

>>19682470
i just realized that all the yabs enabler are nijiniggr kek, its so fucked up

>>19682470
He got hate. He just doesn't care, so it didn't work. Living proof they can't cancel you if you don't let them.

>>19682470
>please, hate watchers, give me a popularity boost
No, i'd rather watch my oshi instead.

>>19683712
>Deprives them of an emotional outlet
Bitching about other companies and talking like vtsisters is not an emotional outlet. It just grows a culture of catty behaviour. They wouldn't have this fuck up if they realised some level of professionalism is needed. Your emotional outlet shouldn't require mentioning hololive so clearly the discord isn't fit for purpose.

>>19683972
>They wouldn't have this fuck up if they realised some level of professionalism is needed.
They wouldn't have this fuck up if Petra knew how to fucking opsec.
>Your emotional outlet shouldn't require mentioning hololive so clearly the discord isn't fit for purpose.
So they're not even allowed to talk about Hololive in private anymore? Does Omega's collab ban truly reach that far?

>>19683972
They can do whatever they want in private, even shit talk the competition. However, the moment these private conversations become public, then it becomes fair game to criticize them.

>>19684041
>They wouldn't have this fuck up if Petra knew how to fucking opsec.
If the leak had just been them chatting, or normal emotional support it would've been no big deal. Leaks of some kind are an inevitability especially when you create a school yard gossip community. Shitting on council isn't helping any of them, in fact it is bad for their emotional outlet to be framed around being at war.

>So they're not even allowed to talk about Hololive in private anymore?
Why are you like this? This simple principle is don't let your rival company live rent free in your head and don't use that as an emotional crutch. It always ends badly.

>>19684192
Listen to this guy nijilivers, venting on work accounts is a bad idea and next time might be even worse.

>>19684192
Unironically best take I've seen out of this shit. The livers aren't Gura-killers, but they're doing great by 2view standards. Worrying too much about what the other side is doing is just unhealthy and jeopardizes their wellbeing.
That applies to (You) too, tribalfag reading this. Take a piss break and stretch your legs between shitposts.

>>19684192
>>19684255
>>19684301
We all saw Mysta's post at the end showing that they clearly talk about more than just Hololive in that server. Why are you making massive generalizations about a group's private life from a single blurry screenshot?

>>19684128
The criticism is mostly about the convo being "inappropriate" whereas there's nothing in it is inappropriate for a private convo.
>>19684192
Intentionally avoiding discussing anything about Hololive at all in a private channel feels more "rent free" for me? They just recognized they exist and talk about them after a big announcement that everyone in vtuber community knows.
Why do people pretend like they're talking about Holo 90% of the time in that channel? The previous convo is obviously something about Reimu and afterwards there's Mysta venting his menhera side. In between it amounted to something like 10 lines of people talking about Holo after a big audition announcement, only 2 or 3 lines of which can be interpreted as negative or disparaging but even then not really necessarily.
This is why the drama didn't explode. Because it was a nothingburger. A majority of NijiEN viewers are holofags and they stick around anyway. Nothing they have been saying haven't been expressed by people publicly in twitter, reddit, and discord, including by other Holofans.

>>19684371
We also saw from Pomu's comment that the conversation was going on before snapshot, and that there was no push back to any of it. We didn't actually see any real emotional support going on. We'll never know what really goes on there but one way to avoid this whole thing is to dissuade and explain that focusing on rival companies isn't good for you.

Plus I just really hate your whole defence where we have to ignore Fulgur directly being confrontational while assuming the best of everyone else.

>>19682470
Sorry eating your own and bullying them to graduate is what Nijiniggers do
Roa's still not back, Era and Lulu retired because of you too, and the list is only gonna grow as more livers fall because they realize the money isn't worth appealing to such a subhuman fanbase of rapid fucks

>>19682470
This gay chink needs to learn some humility. Not even a week in and he acts like he's hot shit

>>19684460
>Intentionally avoiding discussing anything about Hololive
Vox, having to put it like this means you know what they said was bad but have to reframe it as OH SO NOW THEY CAN'T EVEN MENTIONS HOLOS! No just don't start shit like numberfagging, it is literally only done for bait and helps nobody.

>>19682470
His name is punishment alone, what fucking name is fulgor ovid

>>19684465
>Plus I just really hate your whole defence where we have to ignore Fulgur directly being confrontational while assuming the best of everyone else.
I'm not gonna condemn someone for a crime without proof. As far as the evidence we see, Fulgur is in the wrong. We would need to see an actual post from the others showing they have bitter feelings towards Hololive before we start making more claims.

At least, those are my beliefs. If you wanna claim that everyone in NijiEN is a HoloEN anti just because one guy was and they didn't immediately dogpile on him, then... whatever. I just wanna speak facts and act on whatever is the most logically consistent answer, but the rest of the board seems to disagree.

>>19683400
ok bro let's make sure finana never walks again

>>19684591
Where the fuck did Vox numberfag? He's making fun of Shu's role of being tech support, kinda joking along the line of "it's Holo's loss for not getting you in". It was Fulgur who came in the closest to numberfagging and he's just saying Council didn't do as well as they (Cover) expected.

>>19684192
>shitting on council
anon you have extremely thin skin if you think that’s “shitting on” anything

Why do I have to keep seeing him in the catalog...

>>19684782
Jesus you are stupid. I'm calling you Vox and makjing fun of your damage control.

>>19684460
Have you never chatted on Discord before? You could have a conversation going on and someone will post something unrelated to the topic. It happens all the time. Also the entire conversation is full of snide remarks and "us vs them" mentality but you people are too delusional to see that.

>>19682470
>Pointed out that holoEN is a failure
He's not wrong though. They had a premade fanbase, youtube algorithm, every single animetuber licking their asses, many other big names licking their asses. And they failed to hold their initial fanbase and reclined so fucking hard. While nijEN started from almost nothing and in less than a year managed to catch up and get really close to holoEN, and even mog them in multiple metrics.

>>19684371
Bitch, if I were your manager and you caught you using your work account to "vent" on a non-company channel, your ass would be grass in an instant

>>19682470
>is the only one who was objectively in the wrong
What was he wrong about?

>>19684929
It's not their work account though. It's their private discord. All their official work stuff is through Slack.

>>19682470
Thing is barely anyone even knows who he is.

>>19684460
>afterwards there's Mysta venting his menhera side.
I can fix him
honestly though is it bad if seeing that made me want to fuck his brains out?

>>19684301
You are retarded to think that holoEN doesn't constantly think about nijiEN. It's even more than that - Gura is fucking scared of nijiEN becoming big, that's why she does everything in her abilities to suppress their growth, like moving all her big streams over NijiEN important events. Looks like a rent-free to me.

>>19682470
Because he ended up standing out the least and being ignored by mostly everyone.

>>19685016
so... you're saying that... worrying too much about the other side (NijiEN) is unhealthy for Gura...

>>19684914
Three generations in and NijiEN still can't reach even a fraction of the popularity or subscribers of Myth. The Council may be failures, but they are still way ahead of anyone in Nijisanji.

For example, Pomu barely has 300k subs in a year and she was the gen 1, while Kronii in only half that time surpassed her with nearly 670k subs. You can blame muh youtube algorithm all you want for, but it doesn't change the fact that Niji aren't that good to begin with. Even some independent vtubers have far more subs and traction than them lmfao.

>>19682470
Because everyone already knows his issues from well before he was Fulgur and thus he's untouchable. The point was to exploit his words to tar other, less controversial people, and it didn't work. Better luck next time.

>>19685035
The power of being forgettable and unpopular

>>19685091
They get a boost just for being in Hololive. Do you genuinely believe if Pomu was in Holo and Kronii was in Niji those numbers would stay the same "because of the content"?

>McDonalds is more popular than Wendys
>"WOW WHY ARE YOU BADMOUTHING WENDYS????"
Are holos really this fragile that saying council isn't as successful as myth counts as an insult?

>>19685289
Anything less than complete adoration is unacceptable. How dare they speak of their betters this way.

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>>19685289
It's more like Filet o Fish is a failure compared to Big Mac so they tried to release Chicken McDeluxe to fix it. Which is even more petty.

>>19684301
There will never be a gurakiller unless they get a loli appearance and can game the youtube algorithm as hard as Gura has.