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>Constant drama every week
>Slutty behavior normalized and encouraged by clipfags
>GFE on life support
>Open pandering to woke twitter and redditlibs
>Normies openly hating idolculture and crowding out longtime fans
>Hololive males confirmed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wA1SOzKVsU
Another hobby ruined. We didn’t know how good we had it.

>> No.19650364

>>19650274
lmao its actually happening.

>> No.19650540

>>19650274
I don’t know why but the clip of Tenma riding the horse is so fucking funny to me

>> No.19650569

Surely we are gonna support them to get back at nijifags, right bros?

>> No.19650702

>>19650569
o-of course

>> No.19650744

>>19650274
>Slutty behavior normalized and encouraged by clipfags
This is there since the beginning.

>> No.19650783

>>19650540
Because Human Breeder is based.

>> No.19650847

>>19650274
You are retarded if you think the Holostars existing is some kind of yab in and of itself. Focus on Nipplesanji or Rushia, something with some meat on it.

>> No.19650877

>>19650569
I'm not going to be like the fags in the NijiEN thread sitting through hours of gaybaiting roleplay to stick it to the "other" team.

>> No.19650994

im not gay to watch m*le voice behind a png image.


Subscribe to Pewdiepie

>> No.19651006

>>19650847
I think he's implying that Holostars EN is a symptom of other things turning to shit.

>> No.19651107

>>19650274
It's unironically over if you're EOP, HoloEn is going to be completely unrecognizable within six months

>> No.19651270

>>19651006
incel

>> No.19651296

>>19650274
I’ll audition, wish me luck

>> No.19651322

>>19651006
>>19651270

>> No.19651467

>>19650274
Surely the Holostar EN guys won't end up as spiteful, shittalking assholes.. right?

>> No.19651678

>>19650274
>Holostars
>Brand themselves as 'Hololive' not even as 'Cover', despite 'Holostars' not being actually 'Hololive'

>Japanese channel
>Video is in English
HOLY FUCK. They actually reversed the Japanese Homostars channel into an English one
This will be an EN wave for sure.

>Shill Homostars as the great shit despite being a complete flop in Japan
It's over. The day of the rope is coming for unicorns and GFEniggers.
Also this is an extremely leeching move. They made this simply out of butthurt of the success of Luxiem. Similar how Nijinigger released an EN branch after the success of HoloEN.

Holoshit has been showing their true colors in the past months as the trash company they actually are, but this is truly next level.

>> No.19651737

>>19651270
Kill yourself normalfaggot

>> No.19652055

>>19651678
>Holoshit has been showing their true colors in the past months as the trash company they actually are
>trash company
>Yumenographia
>NijiKR
>NijiID
>NijiIN
>Lauren
*laughs in Enikara*

>> No.19652551

>>19651107
How fluent in Nihongo can I become with 6 months of learning?

>> No.19652565

>>19652055
shutting down kr and id isn't the bad part
merging them with jp is

>> No.19652653

>>19652551
I knew a dude who became fluent enough in just 1 year to join an amateur manga translation group.

>> No.19652693

>>19652551
you can understand most of what's going on during solo gameplay streams, and generally get the gist of what's going on in collabs or zatsudans

>> No.19654489

>>19651107
Nah, they’ll mostly stay segregated like HolostarsJP.

>> No.19654556

>>19654489
Exactly, this isn’t nijisanji.

>> No.19657594

>>19650569
lol

>> No.19658479

EN was a mistake, none of this would've happened if it stayed a JP only thing

>> No.19661277

>>19650274
nah

>> No.19661281

>>19650274
meds

>> No.19663385

>>19650274
>Another hobby ruined. We didn’t know how good we had it.
It's been the case since Coco's graduation, though HoloX was a good surprise. It was also the case with EN (no hate, just bringing a shit public). Reminder to gatekeep your next hobby. Someone probably has the "with the death of this character" with Coco, post it

>> No.19663599

>>19663385
i understand what u mean but like how the fuck are u going to gatekeep watching a stream LMAO

how are you going to bully the average human being into not consuming media? how can you create a space so hostile that they'll lose interest in the stream? they will go find somewhere else but still watch the content. there's nothing u can do lmao give up and just don't partake in whatever bothers u

>> No.19663823

>>19654489
Anon, they aren't going to all this trouble just to replicate a failure like StarsJP. HoloEN will become identical to NijiEN

>> No.19663851

>>19650569
nope, gotta make sure they flop so NijiENs can laugh about them debuting the a whimper that makes Councils absolute failure still look impressive

>> No.19664089

>>19650274
>Kayfabe dead
>Immersion discouraged
Fun Times

>> No.19664190

>>19663599
Did you miss the "next hobby" in "reminder to gatekeep your next hobby"? Or maybe I wasn't clear enough, I haven't slept much. But you're raising a good point, pick a next hobby that can be gatekept. For example, one of my hobbies is programming, and as the bar of collaboration has been made lower and lower these days, lots of people that I don't really appreciate are entering the hobby, so I have to find more niche things inside that whole hobby. I've heard once someone say to focus on iOS development, because the barrier of entry is buying a Mac, which is higher than web or android where you just need a computer, so there will be less competition in it.
There was a good article about how communities dies, basically as soon as something gets popular you get poseurs in that just want to ride the wave instead of being deeply invested, and it's the beginning of the end. I've lost a few TTRPG groups due to things like that at a much smaller scale than what's currently happening.
I think it boils down to a difference of some people needing depth in their hobby, while others need popularity/money, and popularity/money attracts money, thus the depth people get displaced.
tl;dr: gatekeep your next hobby, and make sure it actually has a gate

>> No.19664587

>>19663385
Things really did change with Coco's graduation. I barely watched her but the difference in vtubing before and after was noticeable, maybe not in a version 2.0 to 3.0 way but definitely in a 2.0 to 2.1 where you can feel something different to how it used to be but can't explain exactly way.
Pretty funny because Rushia was supposed to be as big as Coco but nobody except fandeads give a shit just days after the whole thing.

>> No.19664596

>>19650274
>Open pandering to woke twitter and redditlibs
How?

>> No.19664608

>>19650274
witness half of them being voiced by women anyways

>> No.19664694

>talking about gatekeeping
LMAO

>> No.19664726 [SPOILER] 

>>19654489
No way in hell they keep ‘em segregated. I specifically feel bad for the Rat pack & deadbeats

>> No.19664780

>>19664587
I think that's because Coco had a proper graduation of a long-standing member, and so it wasn't like Aloe or Sio or something like that. I think at that time lots of people realized that even with the friends talk and all of that, this was after all a job, an industry. In a way this made everyone snap back to reality a little bit

>> No.19665741

>>19664190
i'm not putting any more thought into this. good luck figuring out how to "gatekeep" people, lmao. why don't you just go build an operating system from scratch or something? that's inaccessible as FUCK

>> No.19665797

>>19652551
You can achieve moderate speaking level in 6 months, provided that you practice nipspeak every single day religiously, and by religiously, I mean recording yourself speaking both sides of a conversation to thin air, and review your grammar and vocab from that recording.
You do need tons of crutches to cover your lack of vocabulary tho (eg. what do they call this word in nipspeak? what do you mean by that word?) and will definitely ask people to slow down

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>>19651296

>> No.19665974

>>19665741
>why don't you just go build an operating system from scratch or something? that's inaccessible as FUCK
Funnily the last guy that did that accidentally built a personality cult around himself which means lots of people know about it and meme it

>> No.19666084

>>19650274
>wahhh I hate capitalism
Become a better target audience or become irrelevant.

>> No.19666258

>>19665974
who is that?

>> No.19666354

>>19666258
Terry A. Davis, of TempleOS fame

>> No.19666415

>>19650569
I hate anime men

>> No.19666480

>>19650274
>We
More like you, I'm having g a great time

>> No.19666529

>>19650274
Thanks to nijis the homos became a win/win situation for me, if they become popular Luxiem will go ape shit in the vent discord if they fail I get to see homo beggars cry about the hololive audience carrying more about girls even if they have open collabs

>> No.19666540

>>19650569
XD

>> No.19666574
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19666574

>>19650274
You know when you put it like that it makes sense.
How scary, everybody thought the Final Yab would come with a warning, but it actually happened without anyone noticing...

>> No.19666611

>>19664190
Does the need to be such a hipster that important when it comes to your hobbies? Having something that niche isn't always to ones' benefit

>> No.19666719

>>19666611
it does when you base your very self esteem on it being niche

>> No.19666745

>>19666611
It's not being a hipster ofr the sake of being a hispter, it's just that normalfaggots will always eventually ruin a hobby with their normalfaggotry

>> No.19666748

>>19666611
Anon this is 4chan everyone here is mindlessly contrarian

>> No.19666776

>>19666611
It's not that I "need" to be a hipster, it's that being a hipster is the only way to have hobbies filled with people that care deeply about them. I don't think I'm in any way superior for caring deeply compared to other people, that's just how I am and what I need. Some people like chocolate, some like vanilla, some like going deep into things with passionate people, some like money and fame. It's a wide world and there is enough for everyone.
Being too niche may lead to circlejerk or loneliness though. For example, I would want my hobby to be like the typical touhou general on /jp/, that's not a hobby, that's just being dead. I wouldn't like to be totally alone too. It's a balance you have to find

>> No.19666815

>>19666719
>basing your self esteem on a hobby
NGMI

>> No.19666885

>>19666745
There is no difference anon, hipsters who become hipsters for fun are just posers

>> No.19666959

>>19666084
This is, objectively, the correct take. Gatekeepers never understood how the marketplace works and it shows.

>> No.19667077

>>19666959
They do, they just have different priorities. Money is not everything

>> No.19667139

>>19666611
Not wanting your hobby degrade to the point where soulless content panders to the lowest common denominator in the fanbase doesn't make you a hipster, you colossal faggot

>> No.19667193

>>19667139
It kinda does since soulless content pandering to the lowest common denominator is what the general public wants

>> No.19667321

>>19667193
>The vast majority of the population is retarded
We know. Popularity =/= quality, and when someone trades the quality of a product for popuarity they deserve to be relentlessly mocked for it.

>> No.19667362

>>19667321
I agree but that does make you a hipser to the eyes of most people

>> No.19667564

>>19667362
Nah, hipsters are circlejerking soi faggots and massive posers. They're unironically the first group you need to gatekeep.

>> No.19667618

>>19667564
I guess we just don't agree on the definition of hipster then

>> No.19667629

>>19658479
>Normies openly hating idolculture and crowding out longtime fans
Oh look, newfag normies ruining an established community with their "superior" opinions, and then leaving when they've collapsed everything. I've never seen that before.

>> No.19667929

>>19667618
All hipsters are into niche hobbies
Not all who are into niche hobbies are hipsters.

>> No.19668209

>>19667321
If you are a Holofag saying this then you are an idiot

>> No.19668333

>>19668209
Popularity =/= quality doesn't mean that popular = bad hipster-kun

>> No.19668356

>>19650274
>Normies openly hating idolculture and crowding out longtime fans
You say it like it's a bad thing.

>> No.19668371

>>19667629
>Oh no, things are changing and evolving over the course of time in a way I personally don't like
That's how the world works anon. Once upon a time Holofags displaced oldfags and they had to deal with their time in the limelight being over. If you unironically believe that everything can be kept the same forever you are more than retarded and Mother Nature hates (You)

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>>19663385
>>19663599

Yeah, I've given up as well. The idol illusion is completely gone for me. Luckily i also do extreme sports, a hobby which gatekeeps itself.
Let the normies fight over the scraps. I just feel sorry for Ame, Kiara and Gura, who got nothing to do with this bullshit and are professionals.
I will just watch my oshi now for the most part

>> No.19670536

>>19650569
It really depends. They would have to be drastically different from the Niji males (on debut, ignoring recent drama), and probably be more bros than fags in order to appeal to >us specifically. Oh, and have less cringe and pigeonhole-y lore than council (HOPEFULLY OMEGAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT).

>> No.19670948

>>19658479
Myth was great, but it DID bring about the beginning of the end (fucking EOPs). Skullface was the good guy.

>> No.19670963

>>19670536
If I get in I would spend my life autistically on Rimworld, Minecraft and Fromsoft games. Maybe EDF too

>> No.19671015

>>19658479
This but with ID

>> No.19671344

>>19670963
I don't care about what you play, I care about who you are. Thanks for contributing to the thousands of recent /asp/-posts tp throw off the scent though.

>> No.19671467

>>19671344
I don't do flirt stuff if that's what you're worried about

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