/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Only fags here(like you) will make a big deal out of it.

holobros...

The only real takeaway from the situation is that the Nijisanji members (not even the fans, the actual members) are still salty over Hololive existing and are scared of the announcement. It was bad enough that the Nijisanji males killed the female side, but now the male side is going to get killed off as well.

Sad day for everyone.

>>19650326
t. Pajeet

To begin with there's no reason why Nijisanji fans should give a shit about this.
The leaks showed that the talents all get along, and on top of that are loyal to Nijisanji.
What's there to get mad at, unless you're a Holobrony who never watched them to begin with?

>>19650326
Hello snipe out I heard you forgot to wipe ur mouth after eating cow ass today

>>19650441
>male side is going to get killed off as well.
I doubt it. Unironic weebs loves hololive only because it's female focused and that it's mainstream

>>19650326
nijisanji only exists as an alternative to hololive for most people, thats just sad

>>19650441
It's just funny that Vox scared Hololive enough to make StarsEN and possibly making male/female interactions normal. Pretty funny especially when most Holofags are always shitting on Niji for that.

>>19650546
kek, cope, nijien talents are afraid on the ENSTARS cock

Rushia is still fired, Nene was caught plagiarizing and Holomen will also be invading HoloEN too so its a plus for everyone.

>>19650326
GOOD DAY SIRS

NijiEN is damaged goods since they hired a guy that faked his death. Any ideas of quality control should be thrown out the window at this point.

>>19650630
I'd be more worried about your own girls, seeing as Holostars will never be allowed to touch Nijisanji in the first place. Why would a man join Hololive over Nijisanji? To get some shark pussy.

>>19650667
It's so funny I couldn't have made it up even as a joke, but they actually fucking did it.

>>19650441
We won't know the long term takeaway until after StarsEN comes out.

>>19650697
cover screens for groomers as like the top priority. We'll see how it goes but I have my doubts as Holostars act more like host club dudes, and that is well-understood in Japan but the concept (girls paying handsome men to be pretend friends) doesn't exist in the West.

>>19650605
So? Are we gonna forget about the Myth and Lazulight situation? Nijiniggers never fail to surprise me (with their autism).

>>19650546
I love this woman so much it's unreal.

>>19650441
>members
>plural
Only one guy was. Potentially two depending on how you read it.

>>19650605
vox's success has fucking 0% to do with the nijigirls existing prior and 100% to do with horny chinese office ladies finding him an exotic fruit. If the girls weren't in the picture at all, he'd probably be in fact more successful, because reimu wouldn't be there cucking the office ladies.

>>19650326
>Tribalfags
>And also shitposting /here/
It's only a big deal in /vt/ because they are one of us and the possibly that they're councilschizos

>>19650605
If u can read basic english , you know holo has been held open audition since like last year. But the fact that nijinigger reflect their nipple talents pretty much explains everything.

>>19650786
Unironically they can probably live of jp and asian money in general like Luxiem (idk about the chinks. the vox fujos are crazy enough that a lot wouldn't care even if he said taiwan, so maybe some will migrate to them) because Holostars EN will be the new and shiny thing and promoted to hell, unlike Holostars.

>The only real takeaway from the situation is that Fulgur is still salty over Hololive existing and is scared of the announcement.

fixed

>>19650605
holy rent free

>>19650950
>held open audition since like last year.
>only decided to push it for real after nijiEN males' success
I don't know chief, sounds like they got forced to finally push the stars EN because of something

>>19650950
Ah yes, the famous holo "open" auditons, where no guy was ever approved, but suddenly after luxiem and noctyx success, by total coincidence, they put up a new audition calling out specifically for men

>>19650977
>scared of Holostars EN
>will go from making a shitfuck of money for existing to a considerable amount of money
Why are streamers like this?

>>19650326
Good. This is how it should be.

Instead of what happened in Japan where every little thing gets treated like a criminal offense.

>>19650933
It's not that hard to be a councilschizo. Heck even the Cover management probably are councilschizos and most likely hates Sana the most

>>19650897
A good portion of the girls are making Council tier money or more like Pomu. CCV isn't everything.

If it's a nothingburger why are you making a thread about it?

>>19650977
This, he's the only numberfag there.

>>19651088
This doesn't deserve to be treated like a major yab but entertainers should always be aware of the thin line they're balancing on, especially corpos who can drag down the reputation and mood of an entire group with one tiny misstep.
It's for their own good to treat every mistake that they could possibly make as a trigger for a career-ending yab.

>>19651251
>Numberfag
>Actively tells chinese girls to fuck off
>Says that most luxiem chats are cancer
>Keeps trying to filter as many people as possible
Kinda of weird for a numberfag

>>19650441
>and are scared of the announcement
Nobody seemed scared though

>>19651234
You could at least read everything or is that too hard for holofags who only craves for dramas

Based Mori unfollowed these numberfags

Slava Hololive

>>19651084
you forgot that they open the male audition after niji opened their new audition

>>19650326
>Connor literally calls Mori's gen mates untalented cunts
>forgiven

>nijien lols at tech issues
>instant unfollow

cuckbeats jerk it down!
connor condom money now!

It was never about a drama being exposed, the funny part is how nijiEN is always on the edge even more now that they found something successful

>>19650326
Look, OP is telling people what to do again. And his mouth is reek of cow dung

>nijiniggers making shit up again
Many such cases

>>19651581
If you talk about the competition that has a direct impact on you as a content creator at all that means you are insecure, not someone who is doing their job properly and keeping up with the industry. It's not like the hologirls all suddenly started doing way more impromptu collabs when it proved popular in NijiEN and was one of the main things people were shilling them for being superior in.

>>19650441
Scared maybe, but I don't see how Cover retweeting and bringing attention to their male auditions the same day Niji does isn't done purposefully. Moving streams to overlap is more likely than not coincidence, but this is like "oh wow, they're actually going to compete with/acknowledge Nijisanji for male talent", whereas previously Niji might as well have never been on their radar.

>>19650950
Imagine being as clueless as Shu applying to their open auditions.

>>19650803
>>19650897
very funny reading these two replies back to back. holofags are quite funny.

>>19651346
same way with Kiara and her JRPGs nobody likes and endless zatsudans

>>19651836
What's funnier is if the real holo male audition is just starting now, it sounded like they really didn't took any male applications before if they don't have any reserves for their incoming male streamers.

>>19650326
Aloe got cancelled for the same thing, this only proves nijiniggers are the one behind all the trolling.

>>19651955
Be glad Aloe got cancelled or holos would be facing yabs weekly and the difference is she started false rumors about nijis not just criticizing them

>>19651955
No she didn't. Aloe was publicly spreading damaging rumours about a specific ex-niji EN talent trying to sound like hot shit to her fans because she knew big names. These guys are talking about business in general and the competition a private setting and it happened to get leaked there isn't anything wrong with that its expected. If you aren't paying attention to what the competition is doing you aren't doing your job right. The only problem is it got leaked.

>>19650326

It was always a complete nothingburger that dramafags here on /vt/ tried to bitch about. Niji's, Holo's, and even the Virtual Youtubers subreddits all blocked it.

You fags want vtubing to be a fucking soap opera so badly you'll try and blow up what amounts to locker room banter into a happening.

>>19650441
The best part of the leak was Reimu losing sleep because she is scared shitless of being terminated

>>19651346
Like many unpopular tubers he will engage in numberfagging despite not caring about it for himself, or claiming to.

>>19650326
Another day to laugh at pathetic holokeks. Nothing new.

>>19652081
>Nijifag just wants to move on
You know when you lie it makes you look weak and scared, right?

>>19651621
You're still replying? I thought this was nothing, you seem extremely upset and concerned over "nothing"

test

>>19652214
I'm a hololive fan. You're just desperate dramafags. This is a fucking nothingburger. It's locker room banter; vaguely unprofessional at worst. Grow up retard.

>>19650326
Calli unfollowed some of them, it's already kind of a win

>>19652058
>rumors
Even until this day Ema is still getting harassed by Nijiggers.

>>19652301
Meanwhile, why are you spamming the board with Sana threads? Why is Sana still living rent free in your head NijiEN?

>>19652247
>he's taking his time staying in the thread to act smug

Here's the face of your average nijinigger

>>19652081
>It's nothing
>Mori has literally become aware of it and cut ties with some of their talents

Yeah it's such a nothing that a hololive talent took an action, albeit minor one, because of it
That's not nothing dumbass

>>19652301
Then why lie about it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/t7d6cz/nijien_discord_leak_megathread_discussion_thread/

Petra leaked the NijiEN discord, a vent channel that has the description: whats said in here stays in here
https://files.catbox.moe/qei7o8.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ktw6sq.mp4
>Pomu: Feels like an all out war right now lol
>Finana:Yeah it's probably because Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as their JP livers
>Fulgur:Yeah council didn't do as good as they expected the Luxiem became massive seems their a little scared. I'm just not sure if they do it like the JP side with the idol mentality of genders being seperated if it will work at all but yeah they were mad about niji apps being open again for sure lol
>Shu: You got this Reimu, but yeah i remember having my hopes up applying for thr first hololive auditions thinking they were looking for any holostars haha goodtimes
>Millie: Glad your with us Shu
>Vox: Holo tech issue in shambles Niji thriving thank me shu
>Mysta: Just been feeling really down and depressed recently times like this before i would just post to my private twitter but now I'm way too scared yo even post on there in fear of if i hAve hat followers on there without knowing

Why does she live rent free in Nijiniggers heads?

>>19651951
Nah, it was opened in December.
The only thing they did is advertise it as "males can join too", because, most likely, no males were interested in applying to holoEN. The simple fact that this announcement post leads to youtube teaser and to article instead of separate male audition form, proves my point.

>>19652352
>He's so upset he keeps replying and avatarfagging to think he's won
I thought this was "nothing" why are you so angry? I thought Pomudachi were better than this...I'M POMU too XD

>>19652337
>everyone who hates Sana for being a lazy fuck are all nijiniggers
Next thing you'll tell me everyone who hates Ayame for not streaming are all nijiniggers too because clearly holofags never made fun of her

>>19652491
You are already outed as a tribalnigger that attacks hololive at every opportunity just like your NijiEN parasites. I wouldn't put it past you.

>>19652474
>keeps pushing the nothingburger part and ignoring almost everything
If only you know how to read anon, it isn't that hard

>>19651020
kek

>>19652426
literal who

>>19652559
>read
That's all you can say !

>>19652426
That Rosemi looks cute

drama faggots being faggots and creating drama?

>>19652426
rosemi isn't that busty though.

Why do people act like streaming is such hard work? They literally play a game for a couple hours while talking it’s peak lazy content perfect for farming superchats. Pre recorded videos actually take real work

Nothing is going to happen on the surface

But they will either
>Silently kill any possibility of collab between HoloEN and NijiEN

Or

>Push and force a bunch of collabs between the two so that it seems they are on friendly terms

The first is most likely the one to happen.

>>19652852
Streaming is easy but providing interesting commentary and staying energetic for many hours can be hard.

>>19652905
>even now the two faced tribalfags STILL try to beg for collabs

Nijiggers are subhuman, lower than even Vshojo
They think not having to apologize when caught being a cunt means they win.
No. It means nobody expects any better of you.
You've just been quietly written off.

>>19652852
I bet you're boring as fuck.

>>19653056
They shit up the board over Mori and Rushia then want to ignore things that are inconvenient for them.

>>19652852
If it's as easy as what you said, NijiIN, NijiKR, and NijiKR won't actually get deleted for under performance.

>>19653056
Well is Hololive going to do? Refuse to work with them or acknowledge them? Oh wait, they already do!

>>19652852
With NijiEN many of them do close to a full time jobs worth of streaming time in a single week. Not counting the work they do behind the scenes like stream prep, recording songs, recording voicepacks, preparing for events, arranging collabs, doing miscellaneous translation, mixing, and MV work and so on.

>>19650605
You have actual brain damage if you believe that Hololive started male audition just because of NijiEN.

>>19653056
Nobody sane even thinks this is particularly cuntish to be real though. It's embarrassing that it got leaked but not surprising the conversation was happening. If you think HoloEN and smaller corpos aren't having the same kinds of discussion about the competition then you must think they are all horribly incompetent at their jobs.

>>19653274
hololive JP and Niji JP collab fairly often and if they cant anymore because of this, everyone else in niji is going to fucking hate EN

>>19653462
Lol it is cuntish, it's especially cuntish they let their coworker who just debuted a week ago think he's hot shit and not put him down in his place
That speaks volumes about the others in that group and that channel especially, it's not a case of one bad apple spoils the broth, but it's more it's an accepted behavior in there to badmouth others outside of their little circlejerk with 0 repercussions from any seniority

NIJISANJI DELENDA EST

>>19653344
We are reaching levels of cope which are theoretically impossible.

>>19653056
Just shared this post on the official NijiEN discord. We're all having a laugh at your expense.

>>19653462
No you retarded nijigger cunt, they might discuss smaller corpos but I highly doubt any professional group in their work discord is describing the competition as scared and underperforming because it would be unprofessional

>>19653502
lol no, they'll hate Cover management, who's at fault like always.

for anyone making the argument,
yes Cali is a holofag.
just look at the way she talks

>>19652852
streaming for 12 hours 6 days a week with non-guaranteed pay is so easy

>>19653552
"badmouthing" are you really being serious right now? Go back and read the conversation again unemotionally, most people I have seen discussing this outside of this drama loving shithole all agree that its more or less benign business talk. It's not like they are shitting on individual members or being vindictive, they are talking about what the competition is doing, something that is directly relevant to them in their jobs.

>>19653678
>cover management is at fault for nijien being tribalniggers and blocking collabs
uhuh, tell us more Finana

>>19653344
>Luxiem pulls in $100k more in donos than all of HoloEN combined
>"Holo isn't opening male auditions because of NijiEN"
It's obvious Cover opened auditions because they see there's money to be made.

>>19650546
Pomu Is the best part of Nijisanji EN, I only say this because I don't understand japanese so I can't know with absolute certainty if she's the best part of Nijisanji period.

>>19653708
So you just feign ignorance on Finana and Covid being numberniggers and refuse to acknowledge what they said is highly unprofessional
Got it, cope in the dark

>>19653722
>nijien
>blocking collabs
lmaooooooo

>>19653575
Posting retard larps is indistinguishable from being a retard that posts. Reconsider how you're spending your life.

>>19653274
>NijiJP getting kicked out of non-vtuber corporate collabs because of nipplegate
>NijiEN just shitlisted itself with all western vtubers
whoops

>>19653766
Your next post is:
"This image is fake"

>>19653726
There was talk of it months ago, but you don't follow Hololive to begin with.

>>19651763
>>Connor literally calls Mori's gen mates untalented cunts
>>forgiven
>forgiven
Nigga what? Go to any holo thread, say the word connor and see them start shitting themselves out of anger

>>19653843
"Months ago", which obviously didn't lead to anything, because they now specifically announced male auditions.

>>19653708
>read the conversation again unemotionally
Fulgur made it emotional himself by trying to ascribe emotions to a company. This is a bizarre level of cope

>>19653814
>Hololive is all western vtubers
lol

>>19653818
fake and not an argument

>Council is a failure says NijiEn as they put out numbers like this

>>19650950
Literally the only reason the auditions were open is so they wouldn't open themselves up for gender discrimination accusations.

>>19653763
I don't really follow. Discussing numbers behind the scenes seems like something you would do as a corporate vtuber. Numbers are your job and your main performance indicator. Finana is literally stating a fact? NijiEN males are doing comparably and better than most NijiJP members on superchat. Fulgur is speculating why HoloEN is making the moves it is? None of it is some awful thing.

>>19653887
The point was it's not like it was a sudden move, retard.

>it really was a fucking nothingburger
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA GET FUCKED HOLOBRONIES, STAY LOSING. NO APOLOGIES HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19653657
>but I highly doubt any professional group
Sadly Rushia showed us that they are indeed not a professional

>>19653344
You have actual brain damage if you don't

>>19653708
Fulgur sounds like a retard, and Vox posts like schizo from /here/. Wow.

>>19653972
Would she have the balls to type that on her work account in front of a Anycolor staff member and not behind a pussified wall in a hidden discord?

>>19653884
Mori Forgave him anon, Mori's the one who unfollowed vox for making fun of HoloEN's constant tech problems.

>>19653937
Amazing headcanon.

>>19653938
gotta give them credit, they do have higher ccv than Sana in the past 7 days combined.

>>19654049
That is her work account...

>>19652491
Not everyone, but you certainly are. There's been far more Sana threads than usual today, sure would be one hell of a coincidence

>>19654090
Read the rest of the sentence ESLchaama
I'm sure you know english, do you want me to translate it into mandarin?

>>19654029
>it's a nothingburger
>this is like that person who was yeeted out of history
Pick one nijiggers

>>19653971
The point is that back then they said "all genders" though they were really only looking for girls, and they started becoming real keen on having men in HoloEN only directly after Luxiem's success

>>19650441
>Nijisanji males killed the female side
They literally didn't, all they did was bring in fujo schizos. Yeah Reimu and Finana are dying but thats unrelated.

>>19654039
Vox is intentionally making a joke though. Shu is known as the tech support of NijiEN because he often helps them out its a fan meme to call him tech shupport.

>>19654090
the server is probably owned by one of them, because there's no fucking way in hell that any manager would allow a "vent channel" that could lead to potential Discord yabs

>>19653971
>NijiEN debuts males
>Cover: "Hmm, maybe we'll do the same"
>NijiEN males are wildly successful
>Cover: "Announcing auditions for StarsEN!"
If anything, Cover was smart to wait and see how it would turn out for the competition.

>>19654125
>The point is that back then they said "all genders" though they were really only looking for girls
You work for Cover now? Keep making shit up so you can feel better about it.

>>19654051
You mean HoloEN is STILL having tech problems?

>>19654085
They can't even beat a part time Nigger

>>19654155
Its owned by Elira. 0 staff members or managers are in this discord

>>19654090
It's not, all their work stuff is doing through Slack. This is their private discord that they use for talking among themselves.

>>19654137
Nah Finana has loyal pay piggies

>>19652852
If its so easy then why aren't you making free money instead of doing actual hard work?

Are you one of those lucky twats who got the job they actually wanted or are you just seething that people make money pretending to be anime people for a living.

Turns out Nijiniggers are the only ones who feel the need to harass and spam talents whenever a yab happens. But the divide has been established and bridges have been burnt on the EN side, so I wouldn't say it's a complete nothingburger.

>>19653344
t. someone with actual brain damage
If the male audition before this were real then they wouldn't need to put male auditions again and would already have their male streamers. Accept it, they're just really starting now because of how strong the impact of nijiEN's males appeal to the west. They probably thought males' audience would be just as bad as holostars JP

>>19654155
It's Elira's server but run by Finana. Either way though I doubt it exists entirely out of staff awareness they have had leaks from the same discord before that they probably got told off about.

>>19654229
Evidently not all their work stuff is done by slack you can see them screensharing in this server.

>>19652905
>Silently kill any possibility of collab between HoloEN and NijiEN
>Kiara and Pomu have wanted to collab for a literal year with no luck but NOW that a discord screenshot has been taken its impossible.

>>19654230
>chinks
>loyal
Dropped her ass instantly the moment the next gen came out. There is a reason why she has 0 viewers

>>19654226
wow that sounds like a fucking horrible idea and a great way to have yabs like this happen

>>19654252
>They weren't actually accepting males before despite them saying they were accepting males.
Wow. Are you sure they're the person with brain damage, anon?

>>19654239
>Turns out Nijiniggers are the only ones who feel the need to harass and spam talents whenever a yab happens
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1500063541663268866
Fuck off. I count 11 separate responses to this tweet not including the replies about this.

>>19654358
This is true. Her genshin stream can't even break 1k now. See >>19653938

>>19653769
You don't find it a bit coincidental that after one member of luxiem beat the entirety of council in everything but subs, they opened their applications and started heavily catering towards males?
Let's face it, the thought of vox alone makes Cover nervous, he's been debuted for less than half the time and yet his level of success is unrivaled by any of them.

The truly terrifying thing for Cover, is that he doesn't seem to mind streaming, in fact I'd say he seems to rather enjoy it. That thought alone sends shivers down council's spine.

>>19654465
If you call fujo pandering "streaming"

>>19650326
0% chance for collabs now, I'd say it's a win. You nijiniggers can keep begging though.

>>19654450
She is doing a story stream though. Those never do particularly well compared to gacha ones.

>>19654465
You're laying it on too thick, anon. It's not a good larp like that.

>>19654465
You do realize Cover had announced plans for more Holostars before Luxiem was even announced, no? Or is that part bad for your narrative?

>>19650968
I don't know if hololive's EN management is smart enough to realize this but in a way you're right, if they play their cards right they could get a few guys that know ok japanese, give them some bishounen models and just get the thirsty asian girl audience. This is the one way in which this could succeed without interacting with the girls and thus without compromising gachi money.

>>19650897
The nijigirls are trailblazers, they were the ones who stablished Nijisanji's presence on the EN market while having barely anything to work with since Nijisanji wasn't popular with the EN crowd.
>to do with horny chinese office ladies finding him an exotic fruit
You're not even trying to hide the fact that you're coping kek

>>19654440
The western hololive fanbase is honestly an embarrassment to the brand. It's unfortunate that they attracted so many /pol/ types through the china yabs because now they really do have the most toxic fanbase that loves to act Ike they are personally being attacked over JP drama while acting worse than the people they are going off about.

>>19654558
Sure they did anon, that's why they waited until after luxiem and noctyx were released before announcing it, right? That's why they only started vaguely gesturing that a male group might be a thing in the future AFTER seeing how crazy Vox's audience was.

>>19654558
>Announced plans for more holostars
They didn't though, They left the possibility of male Vtubers open but an all male generation wasn't even thought of before Vox started raking in money hand over fist and Clover realised there might be an actual market.

when does it stop being a curse and start being ignorance

>>19654256
>Elira's server
Ohoho. Interesting

>>19650441
If HomoEN reached 10K on debut I would be surprised.

>>19654558
>>19654754
Do your reps. Holostars concert back in October they announced it. Get fucked

>>19654800
She set it up when it was just lazulight because someone had to. Then Finana took over all the mod responsibility because Elira is shit with tech while Finana knows what she is doing.

>>19654806
people said the same thing about NijiEN, about how they would get no viewers and that actually talented male streamers just stream with their real personas instead of bothering with Vtubing.

Nijien shouldn't talk shit about hololive in the first place. All of them combined could never get the amount of subs Gura has or get the number of views Mori's music gets. They need to know their place. Mori already unfollowed them and it would be unwise to make her even more mad.

>>19654653
Actually, it was Myth that put vtubers on the map in the west. Lazulight was a fart in the wind by comparison.

>>19654221
>people who aren't hot shit act like they're hot shit
Many such cases.

>>19654806
They definitely will, Hololive has a huge box-push mentality. People will definitely sub and check out their debuts. If they'll stick around to watch homoEN streams, remains to be seen.

>>19654910
She didn't though, she just unfollowed the guys in the screenshot, she still follows everyone else.

>>19654910
Mori only unfollowed a couple of guys, she still follows the rest of NijiEN.

Selen sounds distressed

>>19654903
>>19654951
I'm talking about the botched youtube live view count. They can easily get 100k subs in no time.

>>19654951
They have a huge box push mentality in Japan aswell and nothing transferred to holostar.

>>19654917
You misspelled projektmelody
But myth built the city

>>19653937
Thats retarded. They were just probing into the available talent pool before deciding whether or not to make a male branch.

>>19654910
they shouldnt talk shit about them USING THIER OWN AVATARS IN THE GODDAM SERVER THEY USE FOR COLLABS TOO.
that server is neevr seen the light for collabs if i were management and everything will have to be in the official one. talk all the shit you want in your private server but it is obvious that sit is a risk for streaming and vc calls.

>>19654951
It's weird how in the EN sphere NijiEN beats Hololive at this though. As someone who has watched both NijIEN seems tight, they talk about eating dinner together on discord, constantly crash each others streams, always show up in each others chats, post screenshots of them staying up late night after stream on discord screaming over shows they watch together. Then in HoloEN its kind of just sterile in comparison.

>>19654523
nta but she’s not very good at milking her gacha rolling streams either
>>19654358
One is a Puerto Rican, one is an Australian, and the other is American.

>>19655056
Those seething thots at charturbate is fun to witness.

>>19655116
I'm guessing after this management will force them to make a separate server to use for stuff that even has the potential to be on stream.

>>19654039
Fulgur is literally a /vt/ poster. Don't get me wrong they all at least glance at this place from time to time, but Fulgur is 100% a 4chan shitposter to the core. And apparently the kind that never learned to stop acting like a subhuman when outside of 4chan, too.

>>19655129
Vtubers are just e thots with an avatar

>>19651346
fuck off fulgur, you shameless shill

>>19654137
Finana dying is all her doing. Gacha, story heavy games in which doesn't give her opportunity to input her commentary since she'd be talking over the games story, and horror collabs get tiring.

Selen is streaming right now. It's time to roll in the wheelbarrows and show her what we're made of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tonzc1sDQjw

>>19651346
he is a tryhard and will die as one.

>>19655125
>NijiEN seems tight
if you're included in the circle

>>19650579
Which is why a co-ed Hololive wave is fucking retarded. With this audition announcement, Cover has at the very least put on the table the idea that it's more willing to try and sell a copy of Anycolor's product instead of putting in the effort to sand out the flaws in the product that defined Cover as a company. This will likely not end well, and if it does it will harm the culture that drew hardcore fans (the people who pay the bills) to Hololive to begin with.

>>19655125
Because Myth consists of of women with non-existent social skills. Council has better group synergy than Myth ever did, not that anyone watches Council anyway.

>>19655264
Sounds about right

>>19654917
Can't you read? I've said NIJISANJI, not vtubers

>>19655192
it's a shame that people can't seem to hide their powerlevels these days, being open about the shit on this site used to be seen as acting like a newfag dipshit, nowadays you get a bunch of tourists spamming "based" whenever you drop some ebin 4chan reference outside this place.

>>19655258
this

>>19650546
I appreciate the sentiment of being scared of being waved off by the bigger corpos. It shows they're hungry still to be better and that second place isn't good enough.

But I'm not scared for the guys at all. Time will tell but I wouldn't expect a landslide.

>>19650326
Probably because literally no one gives a shit about NijiEN females, i'm pretty sure they've talked about fucking on stream before. It can't be a yab if no one cares.
>their fans are still in their chat
All 800 of them lol

>>19655309
I blame part of it on shitheels like /wvt/ where they collectively orgasm every time one of their here chuubas stream or mysterypost, rather than calling them out for the autistic attention whores they are

>>19655264
Hololive has always sold a copy of anycolors product. The only point they really deviated is in early 2020 when they switched over to no male collabs. There is so much shit they copied from NijiJP when HoloJP was growing
>>19603516

>>19655379
Its no coincidence most if not all of the ones doing that are garbage.

Eternal reminder that there is a very high chance you called a actual NijiEN liver a nijinigger at least once on this board

>>19654910
>All of them combined could never get the amount of subs Gura has or get the number of views Mori's music gets.
Don't worry, Milord is soon going to change that :)

>>19655125
>>19655279
Samefag.

>>19655442
actually not

>>19654846
They probably mentioned it sure but be honest anon, they didn't advertise males and they didn't even open auditions with exclusive male advertising until just recently, after two waves of successful males and one of them being so successful he nearly immediately knocked the entirety of council out of the park.

There were no teasers posted by omega, no videos of Kiara awkwardly asking if her fans would leave her if she collabed with males or anything else until AFTER Luxiem came out. Be honest with yourself, Cover wasn't thinking about males because Cover already has seen how well males do in their company. HoloID gets more views than half of them

>>19655388
Retard.

>>19652337
I don't care about Sana. Have you ever thought Hololive fans are making those threads because they are dissatisfied with how certain members aren't even trying to pull their weight or just wanted a Holo member to be possibly streaming when they have free time at home? Everyone criticizes companies they like because they want them to do better since it is beneficial for that fans.

>>19655440
t.Chinese fujo

>>19655436
A lot of people probably did that today.

>>19655436
I'm sure most of the frequent shitposters on this board have talked with Fulgur without knowing it.

>>19655482
The post is poorly translated but the points are actually true. Nijisanji has a hugely successful Gamers generation, quick lets debut Hololive gamers. Nijisanji resistance is popular quick lets do a Hololive resistance. Nijisanji JP does a male idol unit HoloJP announces Holostars. Niji has a mascot collab that does well holo has one after. Gibara does well playing a game Holo's pick it up. Lulu does well playing a game Holo's pick it up. Nijisanji starts expanding overseas Hololive follows.

>>19655620
>even after stalking and harassing the shit out of Lulu and forcing her to graduate nijiniggers still try to ride off her
Cant really say I'm surprised you dont give a fuck about anyone let alone your own. You are just proving the NijiEN tribalfaggotry right.

Do you know why it was a nothing burger? Because anyone who isn't a Hololive fanatic agrees to what they are saying.

>>19655679
That's all you have in response to multiple repeated examples of Hololive copying Nijisanji in the 2018-2019 period while they were leeching off of them by allowing their talents to collab only to cut it off as soon as they started to grow bigger than Nijisanji? Hololive is a leech company that copied and used Nijisanji to get to where they are today. Scummy as they fucking come.

>>19654910
At this point I don't think anyone can beat gura in subcount, she hit a million subscribers with no agency or company doing nothing but covering songs and shitposting, of course she's gonna be absurdly popular as the first wave of company english Vtubers DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC, hiring her is still the best strategic decision cover has ever made.

>>19655728
Fucking retard

>>19655746
Why does nijisanji always timeloop these 3 and pretend they dont exist?

>>19654846
>Holostars concert back in October they announced it
Holostars concert? October?
Nijinigger, what the fuck are you talking about?

https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21122602-engholostarslive

>>19655746
What relevance does that have? You know they debuted before HoloEN right?

>>19655100
Remember when everyone laughed their asses off at the idea of a homostar EN branch after seeing that gen 2 was open to male streamers?

Now its confirmed, I wonder what changed...

>>19655831
Call their branch by their original name before they changed to NijiEN the exact same week HoloEN debuted you disingenuous chink.

>>19655831
He's talking about rebranding them as an "EN" branch. It was pretty obviously an attempt to leech the big boom that was the western success of Hololive

>>19655789
Almost like they make up shit and ignore things that damage their case. Imagine being such a paranoid group of beaten dogs.

>>19655858
Nothing changed. They probed into the talent pool and figured they could get the people to make it happen, looked at the market and figured there is a demand for it, and then they simply set it up. /vt/ is just retarded as usual.

>>19655876
>>19655901
So neither of you are denying that Hololive was leeching off and copying Nijisanji through out the 2018-2019 period? Just falling back to "but niji did this arguments" because you cant argue with the fact that they leeched off Nijisanji to get where they are.

>>19655930
Are they going to pretend NijisanjiKR and NijisanjiID dont exist either now?
Should we even post their numbers

>>19655973
Cope.

>>19656014
>Cope
the response of someone that has no argument.

>>19655973
yea i mean the only time i watch Holo is in collabs.
Holo is way to pg. you can practically hear holo en get off the the holo collar choking them when they walk to close to the "yab" line.
so sad, holo would be way better if they gave their talent more freedom

>>19656012
Why bother. The nijiniggers dont even know that 4 of them graduated in the past 10 days
They dont even know who these people are, so much for that NijiFamily and NijiUnity

>>19655807
Anon... You're friendly firing. Either way, if you're >>19654558, the concert was post Luxiem-announcement. Not that it changes anything since there's no way they could have planned anything with barely 2 weeks, and it was prior to seeing Luxiem blow up. Do you really think that announcement in Dec. is for HolostarsEN though? Why would they announce an EN expansion for Stars in what's primarily a JP concert? It seems far more likely that Stars is going to get JP debuts for the first time in forever, and the EN side is just continuing to sift through male applicants and wants to draw attention to it.

No one in the west cares about nijien enough to care.

>>19656222
This.

>>19650326
Nijis will be known as irredeemable assholes for the rest of time. Fans will punish them over time, they'll never be free from this.

>>19656183
How nice of you to pay such close attention to Nijisanji, Holobrony. You must really love them.

>>19650441
The only real takeaway from the situation is that niji members are confirmed to be holorejects

>>19656183
>>19656252
^
haha.
holo doesn't even know they have male tubers

>>19656252
Funny you say that considering its a proven fact hololive lives rent free in NijiENs heads
Makes sense since every single one of them are Hololive rejects

>>19656014
Hololive has always been a copy company and always wiil be. Hence why they are launching HolostarsEN now when Niji had success with males.

>>19656252
The self-awareness of this post.

If the Nijis are so bad, why aren't they getting wheelbarrowed right now? A lot of them are streaming right now, some of them with chats as slow as 2views. It's the perfect opportunity.

>>19655969
There was no easily visible market before Niji proved there was with luxiem. Hololive doesn't innovate they iterate. They take what someone else has already done and then they do it better, thats all they've been doing for a long ass time.

>>19652426

>>19656271
imagine having a personality that doesn't conform to the model toxic idol culture.
I.e any personality
give me the rejects and not kizuna ai v14.23542

>>19656314
Says the shill for the company that desperately tried to copy HoloEN. Holy kek. I wonder how long before the EN girls are 2 views and Nijisanji tries to fold them into the main group to try and hide their impending graduations like they did with KR and ID.

>>19656438
>muh idol culture
Yet HoloEN fishes for gachikoi and coombaits.
Absolutely incredible.

>>19656461
I don't think even you believe what you are writing. Or you are experience such cognitive dissonance that you are willing to ignore a whole raft of Hololive rip offs of Nijisanji.

>>19650579
Unironic weebs are not the target audience anymore. They are outnumbered by ironic weebs. This is why Mori still has a huge following.

>>19656438
*NijiEN>>19656523

>>19652058
Go shill somewhere else Aloe did nothing wrong.

>>19656401
because nobody really cares about them enough to do this shit, people would be fucking outraged if it was Hololive instead of Nijisanji. that or maybe the Nijiniggers are the ones that can't help themselves from actively harming the competition of their beloved streamers?

>>19656401
Probably because no one actually watches them

>>19656576
I feel like NijiEN would appeal more to unironic weebs. Most of their girls have been heavily involved in weeb interests since they were teens. Not like HoloEN with girls that seem like they got an anime avatar because Hololive was popular.

>>19656438
Oh yeah, the holorejects we're actually too good for hololive, that must be it

>>19656401
Because no one gives a shit about 2views

>>19656523
Niji have done literal BDSM in a 3D meetup, hololive has standards but for better AND for worst Nijisanji has none, thats why hololive is a lot more tight knit than nijisanji, because hololive groups everyone up in an employee culture but niji is a lot more hands off with how members interact.

>>19656576
you can have both by appealing to the unironic fans, it's not like ironyfags have any standards.

>>19656572
Yeah I'm sure it's entirely coincidental that they folded KR and ID into Nijisanji right before the graduations or that several of their EN girls are struggling with garbage views and have talked about their concerns on stream. It's amazing that you Nijifags know less about your company than anyone else.

>>19650326
yes im sure the holoxniji collabs are going to happen at any moment now, pomunigger

>>19656779
I honestly don't understand how this follows from the conversation other than saying things that are supposed to be emotionally affecting for a nijisanji fan to try make me mad.

>>19656855
>Says the shill for the company that desperately tried to copy HoloEN.
They tried to copy HoloEN. They got three very mediocre waves. Are you even reading the thread?

>>19656646
>nobody really cares about them
The same person who says this also tried to make into a "major yab".

>>19656983
But what does that have to do with the ID and KR branches being incorporated into NiijJP? You don't actually think the girls are struggling when they have people that are nearing on 200k supas in half a year compared to NijiID where most members didn't even exceed $1k in multiple years...

>>19656733
You do apparently

>>19657173
And yet some are bleeding views and SCs and will likely get the same treatment from a company that seems content to shit on its livers.

>>19656429
Peeing her pants in order to show everyone how cool she truely is and live rent free in haters heads!

SASUGA MORI-SAMA!

>>19656779
Are you reading the wrong post anon? I'm confused too at what KR and ID have to do with EN. Or what any of this has to do with "copying"? I mean, I don't think anyone denies that KR being folded into the main branch is what caused the graduations either?

>>19656691
because that was the take away?
being TOO good?
nice straw man.
learn to fight the fights you're fighting wet brain.

>>19653899
They're the only one that matters

>>19657742
>Nijifag is disingenuous and refuses to read.

>>19657858
Retard.

>>19658015
please take a shower

>>19657742
I feel you,
I feel like we are talking about apples and oranges then some dude slaps the apple out of my hand and hands be a rotten steak and says I'm wrong.

>>19657644
Niji doesn't want to shit on their livers, they just don't give a shit about their livers.
"Sink or swim" seems like the company mantra, if you do well then good for you, if you don't then figure it out.

>>19658095
incel

>>19658095
incel

>>19658143
I know the thread is slow, but you don't need to samefag.

>>19658117
>>19658198
>>19658224
Look how mad this retard is.

>>19658308
everyone hates holofags now. good job

>>19658243
i dont even know what side that anon is on, but i still agree, some people here either don't read
or can only process one thought per hour.

>>19658402
>everyone
Stop shitting up the thread, retard.

>>19658421
maybe stop samefagging holokek

>>19653726
lets see these numbers when theyre debuted as long as holoEN you dumb fucking retard kek

>>19650579
Hololive penetrated normiespace and exposed Vtubing to not just ironic weebs, but also non-weebs, two years ago now, anon. The unironic fans make up a non-vital portion of the current audience.

>>19658515
At least put some effort into your posts.

>>19653726
>100k more than ALL OF HOLOEN COMBINED
Why you lying?

>>19650326
>>19650546
>>19650605
>>19652352
Pomu's roommate.
>he-

>>19653937
pretty based though, nobody actually wants males unless you're a faggot that likes obese cock in your ass or a taiwanese fujo

>>19650381
homobros

Let's be real here. If an all out war broke out between hololive and niji, niji wouldn't stand a chance.

>>19658746
what does that even mean.

>>19654193
i mean, nta but shu apparently applied for the "all genders" audition and didn't even get a response.
if they're trying to get luxiem's success they could've done so over a year ago instead of just ghosting every male applicant despite claiming to be "all genders".

seems pretty obvious cover just used that as a lie and threw every male application in the trash, but that was suspected even before council debuted so nobody is at all surprised.

>>19658912
I pity Shu for believing that it was a real all genders audition

>>19650326
They don't know who I am

>>19650326
Can anyone explain what all this drama is lol

>>19656425
>muh innovation
You're a dumb nigger if you don't think that HoloEN didn't cause the explosion of popularity for english vtubers across the west. They basically lined everything up for vshitshow and NijiniggerEN.

>Holobronies tried to COPY nijiniggers way on making drama blows up
You can't make this shit up lmao, like company like fans.

>>19658746
>Niji outnumbers them literally 4 to 1.

I don't know anon, ever since they lost the dragon I'm pretty sure Niji could zerg rush them to death.

>>19660529
Power per member in holo is still really high. Niji is like Russia, big numbers but weak.

>>19654465
>the thought of vox alone makes Cover nervous
man, remember when this board was saying that not only Luxiem would be a complete flop but also nobody watches male vtubers in general and women don't have money etc etc? Man, time flies.....Anyways I'm glad people finally have a taste of what it's like on the other side.

>>19660922
>Niji is like Russia, big numbers but weak.
>Cover would be NATO and UN at supporting their talents
Kino

>>19650786
>cover screens for groomers as like the top priority.
Didn't they literally hire Mel's stalker and put him in a management position before refusing to pay lawyer bills until she went incredibly public with it all while openly shitting on them?

I wouldn't use Hololive as a good example of good screening processes either.

>>19661102
>Cover would be NATO and UN at supporting their talents
Only painting Russia as the bad guy on social media and only give moral support so that the Ukrainians suffer more prolonged war on their country?

>>19650326
I just want them to throw Fulgur under the bus like they did with Lauren to protect the brand, and unlike Lauren also protecting the talents as well. It's an easy win-win scenario; pin it all on a guy whos openly being an inciter and mitigate your damaged image without having to tighten a leash around the entire branch that much.

>>19658631
He left out monthly, but you could've easily just checked that out. Also technically ignores that donos aren't the largest form of revenue, or that Niji also uses streamlabs which counts for some amount. Anyways, Luxiem did $330k in the past month. Council did $86k, Myth did $109k, and IRyS did $25k for a total of $220k.

>>19658515
Sorry to disappoint, but not everyone questioning your reading comprehension is the same person.

>>19650326
i think it's normal, smaller corpo and less known

>>19659571
See >>19652415

>>19662041
Worth noting that over 1/3rd of that is Vox alone, and that from what I've seen is that any collab he's in generally performs very well. He's doing big work in carrying his group.

>>19650326
Really it just cements that the vtuber dramafag swamp has gotten as bad as swamps from other communities that revolve around personalities. Insists Hololive tubers take offense over G-Rated banter and competitive speculation while they go around trying to insult people with "nigger", turncoat on their co-workers for even seemingly made infractions, speculate how they're all actually miserable and secretly hate each other, and overall use limited information to paint big miserable pictures of the world.

>>19664196
It's a pretty big deal when Mori unfollows you.

>>19665512
Most people probably don't give a shit but Vox is supposedly a big fan so he actually cares