/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>125,971: Miko (Hololive)
>33,149: Suisei (Hololive)
>32,469: Calliope (Hololive)
>32,201: Botan (Hololive)
>29,360: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,708: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,268: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,131: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,736: Hinano (VSPO)
>15,523: Ina (Hololive)
>15,461: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>14,605: Saegusa Akina
>13,981: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>12,473: Korone (Hololive)
>11,703: Miko (Hololive)
>11,495: Flare (Hololive)
>11,488: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>11,392: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,832: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,583: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,135: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>125,971: Miko (Hololive)
>33,149: Suisei (Hololive)
>32,469: Calliope (Hololive)
>32,201: Botan (Hololive)
>29,360: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,708: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,268: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,131: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,736: Hinano (VSPO)
>15,523: Ina (Hololive)
>15,461: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>14,605: Saegusa Akina
>13,981: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>12,473: Korone (Hololive)
>11,703: Miko (Hololive)
>11,495: Flare (Hololive)
>11,488: Nijinigger (Nijisanji)
>11,392: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,832: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,583: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,135: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

>>19633602
lmao

>>19633602
kek

How is Botan mogging Kuzuha so hard right now? Isn't this Kuzuha's typical buff game?

>>19633602
Well if there's one good thing that's come out of this mess, it's that Nijiniggers can now refer to both the talent and the fanbase

>>19633602
Why do you not put (Nijisanji) next to Akina?

>>19633602
Still no Calli 10k. Why do you hate her so much, anon?

>>19633602
Based

*Final EN Tally of the day is in*

Here it goez
>32,469: Mori (Hololive)
>15,549: Ina (Hololive)
>15,467: Shu (Nijisanji)
>13,981: Uki (Nijisanji)
>11,531: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,249: Kiara (Hololive)
>9,740: Mori (Hololive)
>8,457: IRyS (Hololive)
>7,100: Amelia (Hololive)
>6,753: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,656: Luca (Nijisanji)

>>19633895
kuzuha overexposed, just like 3 days straight of nothing but elden ring like 10 hours a day

>>19634065
EN Gold so far for March

1. Gura (Hololive) - 18,401 (Vampire Survivors)
2. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,675 (Drawing Noctyx)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 29,065 (Elden Ring)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 20,340 (Elden Ring)
5. Mori (Hololive) - 32,469 (English Lesson with Gura, La+, and Iroha)

Hololive - 4
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>>19634065
This one needs correction

>>19633602

>>19634065
>32,469: Mori (Hololive)
Kinda underperformed.
>>19633602
>125,971: Miko (Hololive)
Kinda underperformed.

>>19633602
wait miko got 125? isn't that really good for a birthday stream? how does it stack up?

>>19634065
>>19634132
Kys

>>19633989
she goes in tomorrow's tally

>>19634248

>>19634065
>>19634132
OH NO NO NO NO VOXX DON'T LOOK

>>19634258
Not that great with all of these guests honestly. Pekora has some really low tier ones and still got 11k more.

>>19634258
it's extremely good, it's like 10k less than peko
also, anons were doomposting and comparing it to rushia before it saying it wasn't gonna clear 100k, now they're trying to claim they expected more

>>19634258
3rd or 4th highest all time for a birthday/anniversary live. First non-sankisei to have one above 120k

>>19634258
Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
12/19/2021 187,392 Pekora 2nd Costume reveal
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyori debut
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut
11/30/2021 175,823 Iroha debut
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal

** The Rest **

07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
01/12/2022 136,102 Pekora 3rd Birthday Live
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
03/05/2022 125,917 Miko Birthday Live #4 (NEW)
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday Live
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
12/11/2021 112,093 Gura 2nd Costume reveal
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
11/30/2021 108,611 HoloX first full collab
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2021 101,868 Noel 2nd Costume reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

>>19633602

>>19634402
>** Non-streams **
>09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

You didn't include Gen 3's Rushia Farewell stream.

>>19634164
If I'm not mistaken the reason why it even flashed up on the stream is because's of Mystia's message causing a notification.

>>19634402
wow, 18th all-time, and Miko's 2nd highest ever. Pretty good indeed

>>19633602
Suisei and Miko in the podium. miComet desu!

>>19633602
TALLY ANON IS A MORI ANTI

>>19634402
>** Non-streams **
Sankisei addressing Rushia's termination got 157k in the waiting room.

>>19634065
kys

>>19634402
>Top 5 Hololive 3D Lives
>2 of them are fucking Miko
Not bad Elite Baby!! Your singing has also improved a ton. You can tell she is doing her reps.

>>19634566
it is probably the musician label fucking it up again, which mean he is a lazy shit that still won't fix it.

>>19634402
>Gen0
2 (all Miko)
>Gen1
0
>Gen2
4
>Gen3
11
>Gen4
4
>Gen5
3
>Gen6
6
>Gamers
0
>Myth
5
>Council
0

>>19634887
damn gen 3 are carrying hololive?

>>19634887
the gamers one was honestly surprising when we were discussing the other day about how okayu's peak is like 20k above fubuki's and korone's with the 91k she got for her bday

>>19633602

>>19634911
How new?
Even without Rushia they're an absolute powerhouse, no one will be able to top them unless gen6 gets massively popular at the end of this year or they manage to find another batch of JP talents as entertaining if not more entertaining than gen 3( I heavily doubt it'll ever happen but who knows?).

>>19634728
Nah, she hit 10k after the 1am JST cut off for the tally.

>>19634887
You'd think Korone would have gotten one 100k+ stream.

>>19635056
with rushia gone and marine mostly missing their future can't be that bright, at least compared to before

>>19633602

>>19633361
When I first saw that Niji screenshot I got pissed off because I thought Council schizo make a fake edit and the whole board was falling for it, and would keep blaming us for that shit. When I got to my break I checked again and to my complete shock found out that was an actual real thing. How is it that Fulgur sounds exactly like Council schizo? Down to the talking points, tone, terminology...everything. It's got to be him right? If he suddenly disappears after this it will be even more likely.

Topic to start the thread off:
Anyone impressed by Mori's consistent incline these past few months? Even if you want to disregard Jump King meta and just focus entirely on last month, you can see in this picture that:
>Only 1 single vod excluding supers failed to reach 10k (the valentines stream had 9.9k, lets just call it 10k here)
>Superchat reading peaking at 6.1k
>Big vod numbers for all her vods in recent time
>A literal rebroadcast reaching 11k
>4 streams hitting above 20k
>Managed to not only get Ina in the same collab with FBK and Marine, but also managed to snag a collab with Laplus and Gura
Pretty impressed by these recent streams of hers. Also listening to her Elden Ring playthrough in the background, she sounds way happier and more chill of late. Same with the Eikawa collab.

>>19635263
IMO Korone is a high tier holo but she neither networks nor sings well. Her popularity isn't high enough to overcome those drawbacks for event streams.

>>19635609
it's mori, expect her to fuck it up in a bit

>>19634887
>No Gamers
Korone will get one on her next birthday

>>19634887
>members without 100k streams
>Gen0
4
>Gen1
5
>Gen2
1
>Gen3
1
>Gen4
3
>Gen5
2
>Gen6
0
>Gamers
3
>Myth
2
>Council
5

24 Holomembers have not had a stream over 100k. Who will be the next to pop their cherry? Marine is the most recent one getting her first 100k stream in July of last year.

>>19634258
its really good for a birthday and even better for Mikochi, who tends to under perform on these kind of things save for the infamous return stream
proud of my little sis

>>19635631
She got 70k for a sololive which is really damn good.

>>19635702
>Who will be the next to pop their cherry?
Gamers will get one for sure

>>19635702
>Gen1
>EN2
THEY ARE

>>19635702
Subaru is a safe guess, Myth 3Ds are also good guesses for the lower ones

>>19633602

>>19635836
Okayu got super close.

>>19635702
I'm of the belief that ccvid cucked towa out of getting close to it during the marika tournament.

>>19635878
Subaru has one.
>>19635891
Probably did get close. She did say she averaged 80k~ for her birthday live so maybe it peaked higher.

>>19635609
Mori has been the #2 in EN for a long time. She always gets overlooked though. As for her attitude, yeah, I agree. I think Hololive's strong statement that they don't care what you do outside of work really out her in a good spot mentally. It was a strong statement and basically gave her the ok to use her other channel as much as she wants.

>>19635937
yeah, i read the post wrong
the myth 3Ds for the missing ones i guess would be the closest one

>>19635702
>next to get over 100k
Myth 3D debuts for the ones that don't have 100k yet. That would be Kiara and Ina right?

>>19635996
Cali Chan Kakoi isn’t just a meme. If Gura didn’t exist she’s have the most subs and be competitive for views/month with heavy hitters like Marine and Peko. Gura being a titan slightly obscured the fact Mori is a giant

>>19636074
Yeah. Who knows if it will get that high in the modern world where Youtube tells us that Iroha had 3.3k viewers but Iroha is shown to have 7.5k viewers at that exact same time.

>>19635609
It's mostly buff streams: Elden Ring, Karaoke, JP/EN collabs with high spec guests and special streams. She's like bizarro Kronii in how all Kronii ever does is debuff streams.

>>19635702
>gen5
>2
hm? i know that Nene,Lamy and Botan have one over 100k
i would need to check but wasn Polkas debut also close to 100k ?

>>19635937
Her live peaked at a recorded 23,477 but was actually above 80k. The marika tournament peaked at 38,541. Now I think there were more unculled tourists for the tournament so there wouldn't have been a 4x cull like the live but I would not be surprised by at least 2.5x.

>>19636294
Aloe technically existed. If I treat Coco and Rushia as existing I must treat Aloe and Chris(she had a debut VOD iirc) as if they exist.

>>19636280
Yeah, feel like mostly buff stream kinda blind anons here about Mori's number.

>>19634258
it's the 2nd highest birthday live only losing to Pekora by 10k
and it slighty beat Marine's birthday so it's damn good number
other people don't even come close

>>19636191
Meanwhile NijiEN males get 0 cull.
Pretty crazy how hard the Holos get kneecapped by Youtube.

>>19636416
do you have Aloes debut peak? i am gona check the archive if anyone on jp posted it in case you don't have it

>>19636191
did this happen recently?

>>19634402
Suisei's birthday coming up next right?
so it is possible to add another 100k to the list

>>19636280
>>19636439
Out of Myth, Calli and Ame probably have the most variable CCV (Ina is the opposite extreme)

>>19636632
A few days ago.

>>19633602

>>19636531
NijiEN have already showed they don't even care about CCV compared to SC earnings though, so why does this thread still fixate on it?

Anons... It doesn't look like there's enough time for Myth and ID to go to Japan to do 3D there for Holofest. So, expect the worse of them having to do 3D in VRChat. It's not entirely bad, Vshojo made it work, Ame probably could too but it's not studio quality.

Is there a site that tracks who makes the most superchats to a hololive vtuber?

>>19636708
Where do you think you are, man. We're here to be autistic about numbers.

>>19636649
I wouldn't count on it unless she builds up hype, which I doubt she'll do. She's not breaking 100k

>>19636708
And SC earnings pales in comparison to actual merch sales, should we start downgrade to fit in the foxes' (hah) needs?

>>19636886
Speaking of which, Miko is at 441k now.

>>19635609
>Jump King meta
you jsut reminded that shes still gonna host that shitty tourney. On three different maps, one each day, for some retarded reason.

>>19636932
anyone remember what was the first 24 hours for peko

>>19637013
I dont think sales were being tracked that early.

>>19635674
idk she could have gotten it already on the new years mikorone marathon, but they got fucked by extreme ccvid

>>19636886
Anyone know a rough estimate for how much superchats count for an average Holomember's earnings? I've heard multiple girls say that superchats don't matter that much to them.

>>19637088
the mikkorone stream was wild because it straight up abducted half the audience in the channel change

>>19636886
>And SC earnings pales in comparison to actual merch sales
oh no no, don't tell finana about this

>>19636708
>NijiEN is retarded, why aren`t we?
we should be looking at vod views, but since everybody is lazy, ccv is the next best thing.. for jps at least, ens are fucked

>>19637104
Wasn't Coco ~30%? And even then she was considered an anomaly as the #1 SC person on youtube.

>>19636708
Ya know, I think NijiEN *have* to be more focused on SCs than HoloEN, because the latter is known to be supported by Cover regardless of success (e.g. how lax they are with Sana and no doubt she's still salaried), and most of them are successful enough anyway that SCs are a small minority of their income (e.g. Gura's insane membership count)

With how much Cover supports even 3view Holostars, this bodes well for Holostars EN - they also won't need to pander for SCs.

>>19637187
She's here doing damage control, say hi to Finana!

>>19637187
she barely has any merch, and they are shit, how could she have known

>>19637201
>Wasn't Coco ~30%? And even then she was considered an anomaly as the #1 SC person on youtube.
That is a lot less than I was expecting.

>>19633602

>>19637246
Fuck I mean look at the acrylic stand sales.
Even when she's MIA for a month she sold 300+ acrylic stands. Her existence, whether active or not, makes them money (she even "designed" the chibi mascots so she gets a cut of that or was paid a flat commission fee)
>>19637187
Reminder that Finana was the only Lazulight that didn't sell out of her custom voicepack.

>>19637465
They make a lot on ad rev, memberships, merch, and sponsorships.

>>19637104
I’ve heard they don’t get as much as people assume and 30% is nowhere near what they get. I always assume get more for merch as they seem more focused on shifting merchandise than getting supas.

>>19637519
and premium rev as well

>>19637465
Coco and Rushia despite being Top SC earners doesn't get a whole lot of sponsorships, most of their money comes from fans. Their numbers also aren't reliable for Sponsors. The same is gonna happen to Luxiem. You think they did good on the ccv and SC front, but their demographics isn't what sponsors want. Of course, Anycolor can make deals for them like having perfume shops stamp their pics onto their perfumes, or plaster their art onto their mass produced products. This is how the company earns money and the liver earns a cut from it. Livers need to make their own individual brand worth it.

Not kidding. I thought the Councilschizo, Gen5schizo, Slow and Steady... here were just lying for fun. But after Niji Discord, turns out they really believe it

>>19637602
They’re dependent on SC in their couple months until they start getting more income sources. After that SC are a good way to keep your community engaged. Iirc Kiara once said that Merch > Music > SC for best ways to support a Holo (other than watching streams of course).

>>19637745
Would be funny if the slow and steady schizo was an actual niji

>>19637745
SOME of it is real.
Some of it is larping funposting (I'll admit I am guilty of this once or twice). I regret the times I've done it and completely derailed the thread last year though and stopped it.

>>19637792
>watch streams
never

>>19637519
>>19637644
>ad revenue
Off yourself newfag

>>19635702
Nene almost had a 100K just other day, it was like 95K

>>19637792
>Music
Not sure about this one, even pro musicians make very little from music sales

Got recommended the HoloEN monopoly with Fauna, Ina, Kiara and Gura and it’s clear why Gura became the top dog
> she’s smart as fuck
> she numberfags ruthlessly
and the most important part
> she pretends to be dumb and not be numberfagging

When the other girls caught up they had lost already

>>19638134
I think she means more in general support. For most Holos, music are just vanity projects unless you’re Suisei who probably makes bank.

>>19638076
Nene's outfit change got 111k

>>19635609
Mori's problem is she focuses too much on garbage that doesn't really matter. Nobody really gives a fuck what some retard on Twitter, here or in a SC says. Soon as you stop giving attention to the words of retards you can drop a big weight off your back.

>>19633602

>19637929
pfft

>>19637745
Niji just keeps on giving. vt/sisters may not like it, but their existence has only been a boon to this board.
>NijiVent
>Nippleboy
>9-1 Niji sweep ft. Noctyx
>KING/Silverboi
>39
>Battle of Jikar

The list goes on for longer. Come to think of it, the best moments on this board always involved Nijis.

>>19638244
This is Gura's actual superpower, and such an understated skill for a creative in general

>>19638076
its Polka and Aloe
>>19636416

>>19638244
Mori said recently that she recently finished a huge animation project. From lurking on /morig/ apparently it was some 3-4 month animation project she did for free for a musician “friend”, which was taking up most of her time.

>>19638309
What was battle of Jikar again? I forgot about that time. It was about Toya doing a Splatoon lottery for 91k, but instead of that, Chloe achievent of getting $92k was better right?

>>19638309
Don’t forget the great Halloween Vampire battle

>>19636439
>Pekora plays buff games
OMG EPIC NUMBER BUNNY I KNEEL!!
>Mori plays buff games
Ummm actually her numbers aren't legit because she is playing buff games.

You people are such faggots

>>19638467 (me)
Okay, I forgot. I cringed a lil bit at Jikar since I made it but I remembered it stands for NijiKart. It wasn't splatoon.

>>19638424
>for free
i hope she gets a % of the income from it then, mori cant be this dumb, right?

>>19636861
Suisei is building traction and if there's guests and MiComet( not new but newest powerhouse ship) it'll hit 100k

>>19638533
you`re fooling no-one here, schizo

>>19638533
Retard. Pekora mostly gets huge numbers while there are overlapping, wheras Whori does not.

>>19638580
She’s desperate for approval from her musician “friends” even though they shit on her. She made the excuse that doing animations is a “hobby” of hers.

Okay, so say you're HoloEN and your plan is NOT to just emulate Luxiem for your own male branch. You're not making the play of trying to appeal primarily to Chinese and SEA women with a core of SC revenue and Asian timezones being the driving factor for your decisions for the branch.

So... what IS your plan? Who is your target audience, what kind of content are you focusing on, and what kind of streamers are you looking for?

>>19638826
just bee myself and see what sticks. Being holopro gets some eyeballs on you. Even Tenma's numbers are good in the grand scheme of things.

>>19638826
i'll tell you what's actually going to be, it's gonna be exactly the same as their jp counterparts and they are gonna try to look for interest for male idols in the en market, and they're gonna fail

>>19638666
when will mori ever learn? Hopefully today taught her something

>>19638630
I hope so. I will forever seethe at the fact that her 4th live got like 76k live viewers and the fucking karaoke just after Coco's graduation got more than 80k

>>19638826
I have no idea.
The biggest issue is that the largest male vtubers are basically all coomers.

>>19638826
just stream on Twitch

>>19638826
a cute, actually passable trap

>>19639093
I wonder if there is even a large market for a male streamer that looks like an anime guy. He'd have to be an entertaining weirdo and a touch autistic.
>>19638995
I doubt they picked Shien or Astel to be idols.

>>19638995
I agree, we'll basically get Holostars JP but in English and unlike HoloJP to HoloEN, there's seemingly not a real demand for that.

I'd still prefer a group of NijiID-tier viewership males in HoloEN than a Luxiem in HoloEN though, for sure, even if it goes against the numberfag in me.

>>19635702
>members without 100k streams
>Gen4
3

What?

Coco - 3 (Graduation, 3D debut, Onesie reveal)
Kanata - 1 (3D debut)
Watame - 1 (3D debut)

It's just Towa and Luna anon

>>19635702
>Gen 6
>0
God it feels great to be a Gen 6 fag. Statistically the best gen, and subjectively my favorite

>>19638826
i will try to get permissions to games i love and have long winded discussions,rants and talks about them and go for the absolute autistic audience. shit like Gothic or Zero Tolerance

>>19639213
Their only hope is to be the ying to Luxiem's yang. Be more like Maimoto and Yashiro and not like whatever NijiEN is doing.

>>19639093
Thinking about it, kinda sad huh. Unless they manage to infiltrate normie sphere like Kuzuha, they'll stay average.

>>19633602

>>19639210
Fortunately holostars EN is restricted to the idol model. There are examples of successful male vtubers on twitch that aren't gigolos, but they were already successful in their pre-vtuber personas (like Bubi and Bahroo). Hmm, that might be the approach they take - find such established streamers willing to become vtubers on YT.

>>19639383 (me)
>Fortunately holostars EN is restricted to the idol model.
ISN'T

>>19638826
Hire an actual nigger who is BLACK and acts like it. Not a nerdy weeb black but a real nigga.

>>19639383
so corpse?

>>19633602

>>19639454
I mentioned before, a “Black Lagoon”-style cast with a well spoken black, a nerd, a salaryman

>>19639594
When is this getting 30m?

>>19639319
I don't get it, most Nijisanji JP males have a majority male fanbase, even fuck boys. NijiEN is a hyper amalgamation of little intricacies of Nijisanji but none of the history.

My advice is to not be NijiEN because NijiEN males are better at it. NijiEN females tried the HoloEN thing and found out that they're a worse product for being store brand Hololive. ENstars might be store brand Luxiem if they try for the same audience plus the mega debuff of bugs hating Cover with a passion.

>>19636861
>suisei
>not building hype for something
Are you drunk?

>>19639628
Sakura Milfko

>>19638826
Beastmen.
Easy money, next.

>>19638134
Kiara just wants people to loop her music for her own ego reasons, it doesn't really do much financially for her other than offset the cost somewhat to make more music.

>>19639730
Even if doing something different might flop, trying to cop NijiEN is a guaranteed DoA so you have to go for the former

>>19638826
They first need to get good looking models for the ENstar, JP star all look like fucking shit, they need to hire some fujo that draws well.

>>19639730
this, they literally should just go and try to look for people like yashiro, toya, kuzuha or lauren, aka, rythm game fag, apex autist, variety nerds, etc

>>19639454
Reminds me of FOX hiring Aqib Talib to do sports broadcasts and you can tell he is trying his best to not be hood but he fails and it's amazing.

>>19638424
It's for the same stuff she used to animate for. She's said she would do it for free but the person insisted on paying.

In other news, that VOD got to 1.8 mil and disappear from my front page (i hope).

>>19639213
Same, I'd rather they be boring and unsuccessful than Luxiem 2.0. Imagine trash like that but getting 20-30k on their event streams and stomping the Hololive name into the mud.

>>19639811
Not just a DOA, you'll also have notable backlash from the existing HoloEN community if it's just a group of manwhores given HoloEN on the whole has not even slightly leaned into the GFE angle

>>19639777
Gay, seiso furries would be a new audience, yes.

>>19638826
>what kind of content are you focusing on, and what kind of streamers are you looking for?
Any niche that isn't done by girls. It be pointless to hire a dudes that basically covers the same types of niches and does the same types of content that many female content creators cover.

>>19639814
But not anything too gay. I don't think parading peacock character designs around will get you a new market.

>>19640003
That is a fantasy. If they tried for Luxiem tier bullshit they'll be 3 views and looking up to the Holostars. They'd just be a freak side show.

>>19639292

>EN Yashiro

please.. just get fun people and good at games. pandering won't work

>>19640069
I just want them to hire someone who will play library of ruina

>>19640046
Considering how much money those guys throw around it's surprising that no vtuber company has went for it, especially Nijisanji, since they have Debi and a dog

>>19640069
Sports and sports betting has potential. Get a degenerate that will put money on anything, be it the ponies, some fights, or football. It'd be great to laugh at someone sperging because they took the Jets on the road and they didn't cover.

>>19640147
>en yashiro
>en hal
>en maimoto
>en roberu
>en rikka
rate my gen

>>19640397
Trade EN Rikka for EN Astel (for the APEX autism) and you’ve got it

>>19638826

>>19640278
I unironically would watch the hell out of a trading card collection gambling degenerate chasing rookie cards male chuuba

>>19640278
Imagine MMA watch-a-longs

>>19639739
No, she didn't hype the 4th live line up

>>19640616
>you will never watch moments like silva breaking his leg with a vtuber
why live

>>19640616
Having some action on either side will create a good dynamic, maybe let chat decide who you put money on if that will fly just to keep them engaged.
They let Miko bet the ponies on stream, ENstars should be allowed to.

>>19638826
Hentai and pinup artist. That isn't scared to draw saucy artwork on stream.

>>19639727
~3 weeks

>>19633602

>>19639797
you can buy most of the songs anon

So... any predictions for Hayase 3D? It's the first Niji 3D debut in a while and they are making a stream hours before the reveal to hype it some more.

https://youtu.be/0lAnR4DSrdk
https://youtu.be/QPg-AHvEjEc

>>19641051
Hoping for 50k with the delay buff and since it's the first of 2022, but it depends on the guests really.

>>19641051
~35k, I like Ran-chan but she's pretty far down the totem pole

>>19641051
60k ceiling tops

>>19639383
Ngl, i'd be disappointed if at least half of the StarEn don't have some kind of idol dream though

what were the numbers for holoexpo?
how many tickets sold?

>>19640444
Isn't that what the Hal thos there for?

>>19633602

>>19640661
She built hype for the 4th live tho, just not the guest list.

>>19641370
All of them. I saw someone commenting they where sold out within 30 seconds of general ticket sales opening on the 5th.

/#/ is declining.

Who do you think nijien hates more? Gura, who they will never defeat, or Sana who'd afk and mogging 90% of them?

>>19641051
There's a lot of factors so it's tricky. I'll go 45-50k.

>>19641370
>>19641683

>>19641720
themselves

>>19641683
>>19641743
oh wow hope there weren't any scalpers, do we know how many tickets there were in total?

>>19641720
Omega for not hiring them.

>>19633602

>>19641814
Nah, they did 3 rounds of lottery sales before general sales so even if we could get general ticket numbers we have no idea how many they put through the lotteries.

>>19641743
Comiket all over again

This is rad as fuck.

https://twitter.com/idepthedrill/status/1500125999932981252?t=9hqB2jMPcLqAgbK_jk62hw&s=19

He come hololive haven't brought on walfie and made a deal to sell smol merch?

>>19635609
Yup she definitely sounds way happier today.

>>19641982
Because kids would eat them.

>>19641720
Council if we are going after what councilschizo/fungus is constantly seething about.

>>19635609
she dropped 24en, that's why

>>19641720
Sana. i wouldn't be surprised if one of them are responsible for the recent surge in Sana shitposting.

>>19633602

OWTH 10M, Mori is now the most 10M videos chuuba, 6 songs(5 orignals) the next is Suisei(5 songs , 3 originals)

>>19636589
Botan - 113,092
Lamy - 103,408
Polka - 97,658
Aloe - 83,819
Nene - 80,034

>>19642209
About 2 more weeks for Phony to catch up.
Then it's a race between End of a Life and Stellar Stellar.

>>19633895
>kuzuha in shambles
>botan thriving

>>19641698
hey man

>>19642341
kek

>>19642297
No, Q will be the first.

>>19642341
can't believe actual tribalfags got in lmao

>>19642297
>>19642397
I mean among Q, End,and Stellar.
Q will at least take 3 weeks.

>>19642456
the funniest part is that they have a dedicated channel for seething, and whenever it got revealed it was all about hololive

>>19633602

>>19642261
yeah i checked and saw someone post about 82k and people talking about her being shadow banned just as Nene was. gota say the archive dive was quite nostalgic and funny. so many people hyping up Polka and saying that Botan would fall off hard lmao

>>19642397
>>19642479
True, i forgot Q existed, that will be after Phony.
So Calli will be ahead of Suisei for quire some time.

>>19642456
The best thing for me is that it pretty much btfo every unityfag and now i can tell them to fuck off with good reason.

>>19642515
literal rent free

>>19642552
The Protagonist of Hololive has giant tiddies too?
I kneel

>>19639454
The HoloEN Subaru will just be some brother they plucked off the street who’s fucking hilarious and unfiltered. I love it.

>847k subs
>250 watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNheqOfBYVs

>>19633602

>>19639885
Thank goodness. Working as a chuuba, making your own music, scheduling your surgery and then getting it done, but also let me make this MV from scratch for free. Stupid bitch juice indeed.

>>19638162
She has a good sense of what is good content.
Kiara obviously tried to scam her but she went along with it to keep the mood. Baited her for a bit and then dropped her like a sack of bricks.
10/10 chicken rage

>>19642736
Most of his viewers watch the short videos every now and then.

>midgets

>>19633602

>>19641982
>Click random twitter link on incognito
>Tweet below is vtuber roommate shit
Thanks Twitter.

>>19642884
kek, that was my exact take, looked just like a WWE skit of the heel almost getting the upper hand
> except Kiara wanted to be the protagonist
but Gura led her by the nose and put her in her place.
I was left with the impression Kiara got REALLY salty and butthurt

>>19638162
>Gura is a mastermind rrat
>"Gura didn't just get lucky as fuck I swear!"
Cope harder chumcuck, your oshi is a talentless hack who just got buffed by baiting pedos and twitch autists

>>19643137
okay fungus

>>19641720
Mumei. NijiEN tribalists tried to ruin her right out of the gate and placed /who/ in a state of siege for two months, and it completely backfired.

>>19638162
Ina had a pretty good shot but she had the worst luck at the end with no one landing on orange out of jail despite how many times they went to jail.

>>19643137
finana...

Is this Fauna's first sponsored stream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpRMNPdH-Po

>>19643559
yea i think so

>>19643559
I think so.

>>19643559
Yeah. EN scene has had a bit of a drought in sponsors lately it feels like.

>>19643559
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCO_aKKYxn4tvrqPjcTzZ6EQ/ad
Looks like it.

>>19643660
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe January and Feb are dead months for sponsorship? On Twitch at least

>>19643660
Ad budgets are at their lowest in Jan/Feb. This is expected for most companies to be skimping on sponsorships for the most part after the Christmas splurge.

>>19643559
Also, really smart of her to decide to it in ASMR style with the new setup.

>>19643731
>>19643750
Yeah, and it's apparent from watching people starting business drama every year around that time.

>>19643068
kek i got that too

>>19641720
Sana probably. I wouldn't be surprised if they're contributing to the council shitposting.

>>19641982
isn't walfie a nijinigger? he prolly wouldn't agree to it

>>19641051
I like Hayase but she's not very popular or well known among tourist. Maybe 55k?
I miss her collabs with Marine though. Their BL talks are always hilarious.

>>19643923
He is not. He's a unityfag, last I heard. I wonder what he thinks of what's happened.

>>19638424
Worst time management in Hololive.

>>19638826
The issue is if you're looking at Luxiem as the most popular male vtubers scene, your path to success is to pander to woman as hard as you can, ala a virtual male escort. For sure the SC income will be nice but you're pretty much pigeon-holing yourself into that type of audience.
Not to mention, EN male vtuber has to compete against regular streamers who are mostly men as well. It's a different case from JP males like NijiJP where the vtubers audiences are more diverse so you can branch out more.

>>19643923
Pretty sure he's mostly an Ame/Pomu guy. Sometimes does stuff for others in en1 and wave 1-2 but largely ignores the rest.

>>19641720
Why be mad at Sana? Why not be made at Bae who went from 5k average to a 9k average in a month just by streaming daily and using brand power?

>>19644440
They'd look at her like a wasted slot when you know they'd rather take the position themselves, but got shat on instead.

Gura playing the hot spooky game in 4 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHLYLNNoa6o

She's only played buff games this week.

>>19644673
Another en gold secured?

>>19644895
As long as Gura streams, EN Gold is 99% secured.

>>19644440
I wonder whats worse. Someone who threw away a slot or someone who almost doubled their average just by streaming more often.
The former is obvious why, the latter because they've been grinding for almost a year and have barely inclined (couple hundred viewers or so iirc).

>>19643559
Surprised at how many more sponsorships VSPO is getting, even for Runa, their newest member.

>>19644673
She’s back into peak form. Averaging 70-80k subs a month again with her current speed and her last set of vods are just unreal.
>ER: 627k
>VS(2): 492k
>VS(1): 569k
>PWS: 467k
>GTAV: 514k
You can even add the 1hr MC vod that has almost 500k now too, and the asmr about to hit 600k. And this is all without almost ever having an announcement for people to get hype for. Just unreal

>>19645067
The popular games are bringing in a lot of new viewers, who were probably just looking up the game and saw an anime shark playing it near the top results.

>>19644545
None of the males would be in either way. I wouldn't discount it being some people that didn't get into either over NijiEN girls.

>>19644937
>be a Holo
>wake up
>stream
>earn gold
works everytime

>>19633602

>>19645067
I just wish Gura was an actual numberfag that streams consistently without health issues. She'd bring in the big numbers.

>>19641720
The only ones that would hate Sana are the ones who applied for EN2, which we don't know if any did or not. Most of them are probably glad Sana exists so they look good in comparison.

>>19645006
>actually treat streaming like a job for a month
>double your live viewer count just in time to push 6 figures in merch
I'd be more pissed at Bae.

Did Shu's JP stream end up doing better than his challenge karaoke stream?

Also can there be chart for NijiJP male total ccv prior to Luxiem debut and after Luxiem debut?

>>19645388
>streams once a month
>has a lifetime average CCV of 5.5k
None of the NijiEN girls look better. Only the big 3 from vshojo can claim more over a 6 month period of time.

Is there even any hope for a redemption arc for Sana? It's just seems like she doesn't like streaming at all, like she made a bad choice in her life and regrets it.

>>19645006
Not sure why anyone would hate Bae she has worked hard and still isn't anywhere close to the top. She's had to work her ass off just to separate herself from Fauna and Mumei and Kronii will still likely be untouchable the rest of her career just due to the natural talents and charisma.

>>19645530
Dunno. Some might forgive if she has some corporate projects. Many more would forgive if she at least did members streams regularly.

The only path to redemption is streaming more. If she doesn't want to stream then there is no path.

>>19644673
...this is a buff?

>>19645513
No one cares about "lifetime average CCV". Sana is actually shit enough that some of the girls could realistically pass her subcount or beat her while streaming at the same time. Elira is only 17k away and Elira, Selen, or Pomu could beat her with the right game if she's playing a debuff.

>>19645667
Apparently it was a buff stream for Lamy I think?

>>19645571
Bae got a higher CCV median in march than Mumei and Kronii.

>>19645704
>march
*February

>>19645667
>current popular horror game with vtubers
>hear Gura scream or
>hear Gura talk sass as the totally not scarry game
I think it should do well.

>>19645315
Sometimes the break is nice, because it does give people time to watch vods. I think ideally, getting 5-6 streams out of her a week and not dealing with health bullshit is probably the sweet spot. Gura works best with days off because she gets new content to talk about on stream, like what’s happening in her life and making conversation off it.
What I really wanna see is an archived karaoke. I’d be really curious to see how well the vod does when everyone can come and listen as they please

>>19645530
If Aki can incline and if Azki (hopefully) inclines then I won't completely count out Sana. The power of the holobox is that it gives you unlimited re-tries at getting that career defining moment.

>>19645530
Maybe if they can replace the person behind Sana

>>19645530
I still think she bows out in May or June when her 1-year contract is up. They could slide IRyS into Council and say she took over Space or whatever while still keeping her as a Vsinger (like 2 gens Fubuki except IRyS' solo gen is sort of meaningless). Then you have 5 and 5 for EN and presumably another 5 in EN3, so it works out.

>>19645704
So this is the power of streaming...
I wonder if we'll see the same effect with Mumei during the summer

>>19645704
won't mumei finish with her other stuff soon, hopefully she will be fully unleashed then

>>19645704
Yeah she put in a lot of work and the other two mostly fucked around, but she's never gonna catch their subs and her ceiling is always gonna be lower.

>>19639594
>>19639727
I hate this wigger, this is everything wrong with holo EN.

>>19645843
Hopefully it works long term. Bae was only 500 off from beating Mori for second place in the branch.
>Ranking
1. Gura
2. Mori
3. Bae
4. Ina
5. Watson
6. Kronii
7. Mumei
8. IRyS
9. Fauna
10. Kiara

DNP: Sana

>>19646036
calm down fulgur

>>19646080
What is DNP?

>>19646145
Did Not Play

>>19646145
Did Not Participate

>>19645530
It felt like she was slowly losing motivation since the dog break until she just stopped caring last month. I wouldn't be surprised if she already told Cover she wanted to quit and they're just waiting for the right time to announce it.

>>19645908
>but she's never gonna catch their subs and her ceiling is always gonna be lower
That's just the way of the world unfortuantely. The saying "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard" applies well here. This isn't saying that Bae isn't talented, but that there's just something about Mumei and Kronii that attracts a larger crowd than she can. Her putting in two times their effort has brought her closer to their level, but all it takes is Mumei getting a break from college or Kronii becoming a consistent streamer to widen that gap again

>ASMR ENDURANCE UNTIL 400K
Big money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNJf_lyI87Q

>>19646080
More like DNQ, because she had 2 streams

>>19645802
1.7mil on her 3m celebration.

>>19646418
thumbnail game is too strong

>>19646418
This took me by surprise so I went to check Vox's sub growth. Man, Noctyx's debut buff apparently went to Luxiem instead of themselves

>>19646418
I know this is the numbers thread and as a numberfag I salute this manwhore for his shamelessness to get the bag. But I just can't comprehend how the guys over at NijiEN can brag about his SC earnings. It's like someone bragging about their friend making more than a doctor because she's a prostitute.

>>19646674
Bigger growth than Gura, the new Gura killer.

>>19646418
>>19646622
Connor must be killing himself now because he was doing this exact thing for this exact audience what, 10 years ago? But he was doing for free, and pre recorded, then he got convinced this was cringe and dropped it.

Had he figured out the natural next step and become a ASMR vtuber he would making Luxiem tier of money now.

>>19646080
What is the sd of the Nijihomos? They always seem to be having 12k+ streams, but I guess they must mix it with much lower streams at burger hours

>Vox streaming
>also Petra's gonna stream
It really was a nothing burger, stay loosing holobronies.

King 1m watchtime lol 51hours

>>19646408
Bae is Rock Lee. If she works really hard she can overcome someone just a little bit better than her. But when the chosen ones actually get serious she's gonna just end up on the sidelines watching.

>>19646754
>Connor must be killing himself
don't give me hope...

>>19645828
Right now it's:
>Time vs Space
>Nature vs Civilization
>C H A O S
It could be:
>Nature vs Civilization
>Chaos vs Hope
>Time

Why the fuck do EN have to generate so much drama? Just fucking shut up and have fun playing video games with your viewers like the JP hags.

>>19647146
2 weeks ago girls were vandalizing buses over what was happening in JP, slow your roll.

>>19638162
should have been clear from the get go when she did the "a"

>>19647146
>only a week or so after Rushia's termination
anon...?

>>19646696
>But I just can't comprehend how the guys over at NijiEN can brag about his SC earnings.
This is what bothers me the most. Vox's accomplishments are Vox's, no anyone else's. I get Matsuri being proud that Gura is in Hololive and got 3 million subs but I don't think that same logic applies here.

gen 5 idol outfit reveal should be this following week

>>19645388
EN2 is Obsydia, and they came from the 2020 audition.

>>19641720
Most of them didn't apply to hololive, and that includes the boys. We only know Finana, Pomu and Enna applied before.

>>19647610
doesn't seem likely that only 3 of them applied

>>19646874
>Hiding behind a member stream
You show them Petra !

>>19646674
That's the kind of growth Vox already had. Noctyx is growing about the same than luxiem. Alban reached 100k faster than them as well.

>>19647610
Shu literally said he applied before...

>>19647749
so brave!

>>19647749
That member stream was already scheduled since monday
>>19647711
it does when a lot of them were nijisanji fans before.

>>19647804
> but yeah i remember having my hopes up applying for the first hololive auditions thinking they were looking for any holostars
this doesn't mean application anon. this means he was hopeful that holostars was coming

>>19646874
Pft. They earned a verbal reprimand most likely. The biggest thing of course is revealing that they're all massive tribalfags and a that 'nice nice' shit on twitter is horseshit.
Long-term consequences, who knows? It'll be great shitposting fuel for the ages though.

>>19647973
Are you retard?

>>19647973
Sounds to me like he applied. Those auditions specifically stated they were open to anyone, and a lot of people took that to mean they would also be recruiting Holostars.

it's a nothingburger because no one watches fucking nijien

>>19648250
kek

When was the last outfit reveal for the holo girls? Feels like they are taking forever to make new ones.

>>19648250
Early sentiment was pretty dire for them though, until the cavalry from the niji fan discord arrived and saved the day by giving away nothingburgers. From "this looks bad" to "I don't see any problem".

>>19648131
I assume they sank the "Pomu-Kiaru" collab battleship with a direct hit

>>19648411
you forgot the "Holos probably does it too"

>>19648131
This. In terms of company consequences this isn't going to lead to anything. The true damage this caused was for the fanbases and maybe even the talents themselves. Obviously tribalism was always alive and well /here/ but twitter and reddit really did everything they could to avoid friction between the companies, and now that the facade is up it's going to be a different relationship going forward

> Off with their heads 10M GET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTb_AvLchgY

>>19648440
>2J
hit
>3J
hit and sink

>>19646622
So this is what Finana was bragging about, fucking disgusting

>>19648750
This is the content faggots in the NijiEN thread unironically enjoy.

>>19648948
>faggots
Chink fujos you mean.

>>19648460
you have to be delusional to think they don't.

Looks like Mori got her mood up with Fromsoft games, kinda like Shion and Pokemon.

>>19648557
It's especially funny when people in this very thread have sometimes complained about holo-niji tribalism. Little did they know that the ones pushing it were niji livers.

>>19649268
Like with NipplesMan, doing something everybody else does is not the problem, getting caugh on a live stream / using your professional credencials is the problem

>>19649268
it's one thing to do it and another to getting caught doing it. the former you have plausible deniability while the latter is hard evidence.

>>19649449
you have to be delusional to think that everyone does not watch nipple torture porn.

>>19648460
kek, and the classic "this is nothing, i do much worse"

>>19649514
kek

Next thread >>19649380

>>19649268
kek of course, and they also shittalk about the poor kids in africa on their free time as well

>>19649268
>yo gura have you heard of the nijisanji debuts?
>what's a nijisanji?

>>19649771
Is this something that actually came up or are you just throwing shade?

>>19649842
Gura has never made a reference or mention to NijiEN. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't know their members.

>>19647332
Worse, imagine you were not even a week into your own career with NijiEN and have seen your numbers drop off a cliff compared to debut, and you still parade Vox's success around as your own.

>>19650186
Oh yea, that's funny as shit. It's like if any of Council got caught tribalfagging using Myth's numbers as their own success. Sad and pathetic.

>>19649842
No. The only two vtubers Gura ever mentioned that aren't hololive (or nacho mama) are Pikamee and Kizuna Ai.

>>19650251
As an aside, I'd laugh my ass off if it somehow turned out Sana was the biggest tribalfag in HoloEN

>>19650316
I doubt it. Ina and Sana have both done arr for NijiJP? Iirc, merch or something. Both are likely the least tribalfag out of all of HoloEN.

>>19649514
touché anon

>>19648402
Like two weeks ago

>>19649268
>let's ignore what happened
>then talk about fiction
nijiniggerkun... the voices in your head, don't forget, take meds

>>19646754
from what little i've heared about him he decided to stop doing that shit, likely due to not wanting to essentially whore himself out